June 17, 2026

Travis and Emma are not fans of white culture.

Travis and Emma are not fans of white culture.
Travis and Emma are not fans of white culture.
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Travis and Emma are not fans of white culture.

What's the last song you listened to?! Get the bestie approved playlist here: https://travisandemma.kit.com/playlist

This week, Travis and Emma are taking on the most chaotic corners of the internet.

In this episode:

  • Travis discovers the Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest exists
  • The angel and devil of hot dog culture
  • Only Franks deserves the world
  • Joey Chestnut’s alleged slap era
  • James Charles vs. Amber Vargas
  • Why influencers do not need to respond to every DM
  • Dr. Oz says America is “under-babied”
  • The real reasons people are having fewer kids
  • AI “chiefs of staff” and the rise of vibe coding
  • Why convenience is not always harmless
  • Steve Wozniak’s reminder that humans still have “actual intelligence”
  • Meghan Trainor’s TikTok-coded music rollout
  • Chris Olsen catching criticism for defending his friend
  • Emma’s disastrous morning
  • Travis vs. Xfinity’s internet data cap

Listen if you love: pop culture, Bravo-adjacent commentary, internet drama, anti-AI rants, public apology breakdowns, hot dog discourse, influencer accountability, and two best friends slowly losing patience with society.

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I'm Travis. I'm Emma. And this is Bestie Approved.

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What's the last song you listened to? Mine was

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Make Damn Sure by Taking Back Sunday. Nice. Mine

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was Too Close by Josh Fawaz. And he dropped a

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whole new album. And I feel like his like that

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entire thing is going to be my last song for

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the next six weeks. Oh, I love it. It's so good.

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We have a lot on the list today. Yeah. Where

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do we want to start? Hot dog boys. Hot dog boys.

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We have like an angel and a devil hot dog guy

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on Indianapolis's shoulders. Yes. You can start

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with the angel. So there is a guy, his name on

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TikTok, I think it is like only Franks or something.

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And he like, he starts every video off and he's

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like. Hi, welcome to my O .F. Only Frank's that

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is. And I think it is the cutest goddamn thing

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I've ever heard in my life. He's so cute. He's

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so cute. He's so pure. Yeah. He runs around to

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all of these. I didn't know hot dogs were like

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so prevalent in Indy. There are a lot of them

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now that you like go through his profile. Yeah.

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I didn't realize it either. But he runs around.

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He tries hot dogs everywhere. He rates them.

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It is the. cutest and sweetest goddamn thing,

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and I think it's, like, a beacon of light and

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hope that we really need right now. No, yeah.

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Like, his videos genuinely spark joy for me.

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And it's more than hot dogs. It's so funny, because

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when I clicked on the link that you sent, I'd

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seen him before, but I've never seen him review

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a hot dog. I've seen him do, like, the Kilroy's

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breadsticks of the month. Like, they have the

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Arroz Camboyo breadstick bag. I feel like I do

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remember this. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. But

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never hot dogs. But I love that for him. And

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I hope he starts making money off of TikTok.

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I do, too. I told him we were going to shout

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him out this week because I followed him. And

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I was like, hey, is it okay if I... Only Franks.

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Yes. Only Franks. And he was like, yeah, let

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me know. And I'm like, I'm excited to watch.

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And I was like, goddammit, I love you so much.

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Of course he replied and was encouraging, like,

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naturally. Yes. So if you're in New Zealand or

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Belgium or something, please tap into Only Franks

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anyway. Yes. Thank you. Please. Tell me about

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your devil of a hot dog guy. Oh, yeah. The devil.

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I never thought I'd be saying this, but Joey

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Chestnut. Brother boy got arrested. He lives

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up here in Westfield and he got arrested for

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slapping someone in a bar. Because apparently

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they recognized him and he was just super drunk.

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And unfortunately, I feel like I can empathize.

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Who the fuck is this? I just Googled Joey Chestnut.

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I've never seen him a day in my life. Travis

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somehow has never heard of the Nathan's hot dog

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eating contest, which to me is insane because

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it's like the Super Bowl for. Even white or white

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people. And you know, I don't I don't enjoy white

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culture. I can't watch the hot dog eating contest.

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Let's start there because I hate people chewing.

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Yes. No, I'm so sorry. Like that sounds like

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my personal disgusting stuff. Like they dip it

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in water to get it done. It's it's actually disgusting.

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And they eat like dozens of hot dogs. It's gross.

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Anyways, yeah, he slapped someone, which is crazy

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because it's like a local celebrity, which we

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don't have many of. Shout out Joey Chestnut,

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I guess. He is an icon, but I just thought that

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was so funny. That seems like a liberal use of

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the word, but I'm kidding. No, I mean, for this

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part of the country, that's an icon. But, okay,

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so, like, somebody went up to him in a bar, and

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they said, oh, my God, you're Joey Chestnut.

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But he just slapped the shit out of him. Like,

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how did that interaction go? I so I just read

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about it briefly. But from what I gathered, everyone's

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super wasted. That is the predetermining factor

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you need to understand. I guess the guy comes

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up to him. He probably said something stupid.

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If I had to guess like. About him eating hot

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dogs. Oh, okay. And if you've seen Joey Chestnut,

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recently at least, ripped. He's like jacked now.

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He's like... Okay. God bless. God bless Joey

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Chestnut. I hope he's doing well in prison. When

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you look up Nathan's contest winners, the recommended

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search is why is Joey Chestnut on probation?

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Jesus Christ. I love that so much. It's no hate

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at all. I just thought it was silly. Next on

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the list, we have James Charles, who... I somehow

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missed this whole thing. Are you serious? I will

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say, I do think his PR team tried to cover it

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up very, very, very quickly. So, like, if you

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didn't see it immediately... I haven't... heard

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anything about james charles since it came out

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that he was going after underage boys so let

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me just tell you they're back on that one they

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love bringing that up and like i mean to be fair

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that if that's something that happens that is

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something that should continue to be brought

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up until he's off the internet until he's off

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of the face of the earth um yeah i mean i'm gonna

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be honest i've never really understood the appeal

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of james charles of like I sort of do only because

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I was very in the 2016 makeup tutorial space.

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I was like very into that because I was a freshman

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in college. He was a makeup. I didn't realize

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he was a tutorial person. When the term was like

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makeup guru, he was like one of those. I thought

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he just had a makeup. So he was like a Jeffree

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Star guy. Yes, exactly that. Yeah. Just like

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a few years later and like younger. And then

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he came out with like the rainbow palette. and

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all of that stuff and so people followed him

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and then he just started getting really annoying

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and that's why I stopped like ever seeing anything

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from him and then it all came out that he was

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like going after underage boys and I was like

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okay I hope I never see your face again and I

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really haven't I I I saw like the messages and

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stuff. That's the thing. Like they showed the

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DMs and it sounded like him, to be honest. He

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admitted it. I thought so. He's publicly admitted

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it. He's like, apologize, quote unquote. And

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like, I'm not interested in your fucking apology.

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I'm so sorry, but. You have to apologize. Like

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you have to admit that there was wrongdoing there.

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But that doesn't mean I have to forgive you.

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In his most recent iteration of lighting his

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life on fire, he so Amber Vargas is a spirit

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or was a Spirit Airlines employee before they

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filed bankruptcy in the middle of the night and

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like literally shut down operations and canceled

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thousands of flights across the country. What?

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That is crazy. Like, I've never seen anything

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like that. Well, so the whole long and short

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of it is Jet Fuel became. prohibitively expensive

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because they were already like on the brink of

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filing bankruptcy anyway. And when Donald Trump

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went and did the whole song and dance with Iran.

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The Strait of Hormuz got shut down. Prices of

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jet fuel skyrocketed. And they simply did not

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have enough operating capital to go on another

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day. Oh, my God. I mean, it was bad. So they

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were like, we're done right now. Yes. Everyone

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go home. I mean, you realize people showed up.

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So there was some talk about them maybe filing

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bankruptcy. And then people showed up to the

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airport. And they were like, your flights are

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canceled. And there were no people there to talk

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to about it. a night like i cannot imagine anything

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can you imagine like you're just taking your

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family on vacation or even more casual than that

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you're just like going somewhere for work or

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whatever can you imagine and then you just get

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there and they're like oh well that airline doesn't

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exist anymore like i know i'm such an elitist

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piece of shit when it comes to airlines like

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i only fly delta i'm so sorry that i'm like this

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person that everyone hates but like It's not

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about, like, it's not about anything other than,

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like, I just, I genuinely like Delta. I like

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a Delta SkyMile. I cannot imagine the hell of,

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like, showing up, not having anyone to talk to.

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Then you have to call some, like, phone number,

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because I guess there was a phone number set

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up to deal with this. Can you fucking imagine?

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Like, let's just say the 10 ,000 people that

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were supposed to fly that day, they're all calling

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the same number at the same time. Yeah. Also,

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who do they have running that phone? I don't

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know. Demons? I don't know. Volunteer? They're

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broke asses. Oh my God. So that all went straight

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to hell. I feel genuinely bad for everyone involved

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in this, but like I feel worse for the employees

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because they had something like 10 ,000 employees

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that they all laid off. Yeah. Missing a flight

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is inconvenient, but your job just disappearing

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is devastating for some people, especially like,

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yes, but specifically for Amber Vargas, who was

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an operations agent, um, at, in, uh, Boston Logan

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Airport. For context, I want everyone to understand,

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I googled this, this role makes roughly $17 to

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$25 an hour, so it stands to reason that when

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her job stopped existing, she panicked. Of course.

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She starts a GoFundMe, and she sends, I can argue

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both sides of this thing of sending sending a

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GoFundMe to influencers to like celebrities to

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whoever and like just like throwing everything

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at the wall and seeing what you can get like

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I can I can make the argument of like yeah it's

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it's it's a little distasteful but like you're

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fucking desperate like I don't is it distasteful

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to post your hauls of designer handbags That's

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the other side of it I can argue where I'm just

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like, oh, you have a closet full of designer

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clothes. If you don't want people to know you

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have money, don't post about having money. Right.

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Like, that's what it boils down to for me. And

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for me, I'm just like, if there's any good that

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someone can do, I think. do it and if you don't

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want to do good then just don't say don't say

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anything you don't have to say anything james

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charles can't not say anything but like doesn't

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he have to be ignoring thousands of dms every

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day this is the other thing that i i that's the

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first thing i thought to myself because i get

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so he opens up the dm and i'm going to clip in

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the audio from from james charles's original

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response to this because i i need people that

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like actually hear how just fucking demonic he

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sounds I'm not so bad I just got a DM on here

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from a girl that said good morning James I know

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you'll probably never see this but if you could

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just take one minute to read it would really

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mean a lot to me I'm really struggling right

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now because Spirit Airlines just filed for bankruptcy

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and I have lost my job here's a GoFundMe link

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any donations help I'm sure they do sweetheart

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I'm sure they do you know what else would help

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you Getting another job. Yeah, try that. Because

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in the time that it took you to copy and paste

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the same fuck ass message to myself, who you

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don't follow, by the way, and probably a hundred

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other influencers and celebrities, you could

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have applied for a hundred other jobs, but you

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didn't because you're a lazy piece of shit and

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you're entitled. And you think that influencers

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and celebrities should fund your life for you.

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Why? Why would I ever help you? You're not a

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fan. You don't even follow me. You've never supported

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me. This is your first time DMing. And you think

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that I'm going to... Send you money because you

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lost your job? Oh my god, welcome to the real

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world, sweetheart. People lose their jobs every

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fucking day and you're white, pretty, and able

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-bodied. You're in a much better position than

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a lot of other people out here who are trying

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clearly much harder to make a better life for

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themselves. Why would I fucking help you? Aside

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from that, 17 ,000 people lost their jobs at

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Spear Airlines. Why do you think you need to

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go fund me? I can at least, like, 1 % respect

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the mentality of closed mouth, don't get fed,

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doesn't hurt to try. But honestly, it does hurt

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to try because now you pissed me off, okay? I'm

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not the one. Go find fucking Mr. Reese. This

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is literally his entire shtick. He starts out

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with, like, I got this DM, and he says, I could

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have ignored it, I could have just said no, but

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it pissed me off. And, like, he starts on this

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whole thing about, like, um... You know what

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you could have done in the time that you were,

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like, copying and pasting this message to influencers

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like me who you don't even follow? And I was

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like, oh, fuck you. That's why he's mad. We just

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got into it. That's why he's mad, because she

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doesn't follow him. But I want to go two things.

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One, he calls her a lazy piece of shit. And I

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was like, this girl's desperate. And you're blowing

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her up. She would not survive two. hours at her

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job. 20 minutes. What are you talking about?

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Lazy pieces. You sit in front of a tripod that

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is set up for you and then do horrible, awful,

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no good makeup and get mugged by celebrities

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who you are supposed to be teaching constantly.

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Right. What are you talking about? Right. Right.

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But then. The other the other thing that I keep

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coming back to is you and I have a public facing

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TikTok, Instagram threads, whatever for the podcast.

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When you have a public facing profile, there

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are like three categories of messages. Yeah.

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Like people that you are connected with, people

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that like the algorithm thinks you might know

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and things that are like you have no connection

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to this person. They don't follow you. and it

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just goes into a folder that like you don't ever

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see. Yeah. James Charles had to go in and like,

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he was looking for something like this. Like,

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and that's, I imagine like he's probably one

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of these people that's obsessed with like himself.

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He's an narcissist, whatever. He's up at two

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or three o 'clock in the morning. And that's

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like, that's what he's doing is scrolling through

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his messages and see like, what are people saying

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to me? That's, that's the answer. He wants, he

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knows that there are people in there gassing

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him up and he wants to read it. Yes. And do you

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know what? Fine. Sure. Who cares? But for you

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to go after this woman who was just trying to

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protect her livelihood. Like, God bless, whatever.

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I don't care. Like, that's neither here nor there.

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Like, if I'm having a day, like, I don't want

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to read our reviews on Apple Podcasts. Like,

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that's where we're at. But. This girl, and also

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for context, I went and found the original GoFundMe.

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The dollar amount has since gone up because I

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think this has gone so public. So she's like,

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I'm going to help other people. But the original

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amount that was on the GoFundMe, $1 ,100. Probably

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just trying to make rent. She was trying to cover

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her fucking rent for the month. Like, that's

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what it was. Or, like, buy a girl. Like, I don't

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care what she was doing with it. Like, I mean,

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in Boston, $1 ,100 for rent feels super low.

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So, like, I'm just like. Maybe she was just trying

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to have electricity. Maybe. I don't care what

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it was. It doesn't even matter. I don't care

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if she was just like, damn, I lost my job. I

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need to go. to Miami for a weekend, bitch. Yeah,

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you should. You're not going on Spirit. She wasn't

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forcing anyone to pay her either, by the way.

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Flikes are probably $1 ,100 on Delta right now,

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for God's sakes, also. I bet they would give

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a Spirit airline firee a little discount if they

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sobbed enough. I would hope so. Yikes. But it's

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so horrific. And then, so he goes on, he makes

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this whole thing about she's a lazy piece of

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shit. The internet. Drags him to hell. And thank

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God. And so the other thing to understand is

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like in content creation, your your capital is

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how many followers you have. James Charles had

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44 million followers. He lost five million followers

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over the course of a weekend. And good. God,

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it feels good. Set a record for becoming the

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most unfollowed person on TikTok in history.

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Wow. Proud of him for that. Um, and then he comes

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on and does the whole song and dance of trying

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to make an apology where he's out. He's on his

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porch. He's crying. He's doing the thing and

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he's making it about him, which like, he's like,

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this is the first place where I feel like I can

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truly be myself. And I'm like, first of all,

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shut the fuck up. No, it's not. You've never

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been anyone by yourself and you really show who

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the fuck you are. I don't want to hear that.

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When has anyone ever held you back, girl? Right.

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And I want you to be whoever you are. I want

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you to run around. You can't treat people like

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shit, though, and, like, make it about being

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yourself. Yeah, and you don't get to fake oppression

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and be like, whoa. Oh, Christ. Right, like, I've

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been oppressed. Girl, we've seen pictures of

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you when you were 12, living your best life.

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Like, what are you actually talking about? And,

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like, if that is your real struggle, I don't

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want to take that away from you. No. But there's

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no way that's your argument. It reminds me of

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like a bad boyfriend who's who's who's talking

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about like, oh, I can't just I can't just say

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what's on my mind. Yes. Oh, my God. I can't just

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say what I can't have my feelings. This isn't

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a safe space for me. God damn it. It annoys the

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fuck out of me. But then Amber Vargas, the original

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poster of the GoFundMe. responded with a post

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to his apology. She said, I heard the apology.

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I just don't accept it. Period. And all I have

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to say is, good for fucking her. She could have

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been the bigger person. She could have not. I

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want you to take him straight the fuck to hell.

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Exactly. And Augie agrees. And also, the other

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thing too, because I brought him up a minute

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ago, I hate agreeing with Jeffree Star about

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anything. But Jeffree Star came out and he was

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like, I'll clip it in here too, but he said something

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to the effect of, well, you know, he probably

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would have helped this girl if she was a 16 -year

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-old boy messaging him. And I said... If that

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Spirit Airlines employee was 16 and innocent,

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James would have sent that cash out. Next subject.

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You know what? Broken clocks are right twice

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a day, I guess. Yeah. It's like, so would you,

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Jeffrey, but okay. Fair. Fair. But... Also, speaking

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of underage people, that was a bad segue. Have

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you seen the thing about Dr. Oz, who's apparently

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in charge of the CDC now, I guess? I don't know.

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Dr. Oz says that one third of Americans are underbabied.

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I did see that. Tell me your thoughts. What the

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fuck does that mean? Secondly, did Dr. Oz ever

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get his M .D.? Because last I checked, he was

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a Ph .D. No, no, no, that's Dr. Phil. No, no.

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When Dr. Oz had a show, wasn't he a PhD, not

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an MD? And it was a whole thing. No, no, that

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was Dr. Phil. No, Dr. Oz. Dr. Phil's like a psychologist.

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Of course, he's not an MD, but. But no, Dr. Oz,

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like because Heather Dubrow is very, very or

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was very good friends. I don't know if they're

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still super close, but because he. Is he like

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a real life? Worked a lot with Terry Dubrow.

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I think he's a real doctor. Oh. Hang on. A real

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MD. Yeah, Dr. Maldonado is a real licensed and

00:20:05.869 --> 00:20:11.089
credentialed physician. He trained as a cardiothoracic

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surgeon. He's a heart surgeon. He's a heart surgeon.

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A cardiothoracic. I don't know what the fuck

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that means. Maybe that's what it is. I don't

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remember. I was a child. Maybe it's that he was

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a heart surgeon and he just kept going on TV

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and calling everyone fat. I think you're right

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about this. This is the. Yes, yes, yes. Because

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he was in the realm of Dr. Atkins because they

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they did something together. You're I think I

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remember what you're talking about. But it was

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like 20 years ago. So he's also one of these

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people who and I this is where I struggle. We're

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like, I do think there is space for holistic

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natural medicine. I also think if the solution

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is a pill, a vaccine, whatever the case may be,

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that is the solution. And that is science of

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science to back it. I don't want like there is

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no all black or all white situation. There is

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room for gray area here. He is obsessed with

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like promoting natural medicine and like holistic.

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The people are all over that. And that's why

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he's in charge of whatever department in the

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government he's part of now. I don't care about

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that. But he gets on. I think it was a press

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conference where Donald Trump is literally falling

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asleep in his chair. I saw that, too. Never seen

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anything like it. I'm like, you're talking about

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sleepy fucking Joe. Like, let's start there.

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Not even really trying to hide it. No. Just fully

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grandpa's resting his eyes. I got to rest my

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eyes. I heard everything you said. My papaw does

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the same thing, by the way. But he, Dr. Oz says

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one third of Americans are under baby. And he

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also predicted that. there is going to be an

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upcoming wave of Trump babies. Jesus Christ.

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Okay, so a couple things here. Void up your windows.

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I want your thoughts about this. Let's get the

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baseline there. Let's start there. I think you're

00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.519
treating a symptom of the issue. People aren't

00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.940
having babies because people can't afford it.

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That's that's one reason people are also having

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babies because we live in a society where if

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you do not have a two income household, it's

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almost impossible to get by. And then that leaves

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the problem of where do the children go? That's

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another part. And I think getting on TV and saying

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we're under baby, there's about to be a wave

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of Trump babies is really. A creative way to

00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:52.980
sweep that under the rug for the 50 ,000th time.

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It's that. And then it's also the third data

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point that I kept coming up when I was reading

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about this is as women become more educated,

00:23:02.980 --> 00:23:06.359
there is less emphasis on you have to you have

00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:08.039
to be a mother. That has to be your entire thing.

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And I have been very honest about my thoughts

00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:13.400
about. I, if you want to be a mom, I want you

00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:14.779
to be a mom and I want you to, I want you to

00:23:14.779 --> 00:23:16.059
do whatever you want. If you want to, like, I

00:23:16.059 --> 00:23:17.619
want everyone to be exactly who they want to

00:23:17.619 --> 00:23:21.579
be. I don't like this idea that you have to be

00:23:21.579 --> 00:23:23.599
a mother and your only value is in being a mother.

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And like. Zero percent. Yeah. I say this like,

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and I know my cousin Megan listens and like,

00:23:29.420 --> 00:23:31.400
she is such, she's a stay at home mom. She's

00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:34.500
got. So am I. Yeah. Right. You are too. And she's

00:23:34.500 --> 00:23:36.579
got six or seven kids. And I don't remember.

00:23:36.660 --> 00:23:40.230
I'm sorry, Megan. Don't hate me. But. She loves.

00:23:40.230 --> 00:23:44.170
Jack just did the six, seven thing. Anyway. She

00:23:44.170 --> 00:23:47.049
loves being a mother and she's a good mom and

00:23:47.049 --> 00:23:49.630
that's what she wants to be. And that's beautiful

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and that's a good purpose to have in life. Exactly.

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Her sister Autumn doesn't have kids and I don't

00:23:54.430 --> 00:23:57.369
hear Megan pushing like, oh, you need to be a

00:23:57.369 --> 00:23:58.849
mom, you need to have kids. She doesn't do that

00:23:58.849 --> 00:24:01.750
to Autumn. So. No one should do that to anyone.

00:24:01.750 --> 00:24:03.210
There's no issue with anyone being a mother,

00:24:03.289 --> 00:24:05.990
obviously. And, like, there's also the idea that,

00:24:06.029 --> 00:24:08.789
like, studies have, like, I mean, and this is

00:24:08.789 --> 00:24:12.109
a math problem. This isn't, like, a phenomenal

00:24:12.109 --> 00:24:17.730
thing. To get a society to continue, like, existing,

00:24:17.970 --> 00:24:23.589
you have, it's 2 .3 something is the number of

00:24:23.589 --> 00:24:25.470
kids that have to be born every generation to

00:24:25.470 --> 00:24:29.369
keep a society in existence. Yeah. So, that's

00:24:29.369 --> 00:24:34.240
fine. But I want to come back to this, this thing

00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:38.420
about like how prohibitively expensive it is

00:24:38.420 --> 00:24:41.079
to have kids in some cases and how there's no

00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:45.380
support for like, I mean, they're cutting snap

00:24:45.380 --> 00:24:50.660
benefits. They're cutting like every. for low

00:24:50.660 --> 00:24:52.579
-income people. So it's like, we're going to

00:24:52.579 --> 00:24:55.140
push the whole pro -life narrative. We're going

00:24:55.140 --> 00:24:57.160
to force you to carry the child to term, and

00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:00.599
then it's your fucking problem. Yeah. And I'm

00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.740
just like, you can't have it both ways. I'm so

00:25:03.740 --> 00:25:06.259
sorry. I pulled data from the U .S. Census Bureau,

00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:11.799
and in 2024, there were 84 ,000, or 84 ,969 ,539

00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.910
households that met the definition of... a family

00:25:14.910 --> 00:25:17.650
household so either a married couple a single

00:25:17.650 --> 00:25:20.650
mother or a single father like with their with

00:25:20.650 --> 00:25:23.869
everyone living there of those households 33

00:25:23.869 --> 00:25:29.869
million 674 652 of those were they included at

00:25:29.869 --> 00:25:32.009
least one child under the age of 18. so that's

00:25:32.009 --> 00:25:35.710
like roughly 39 of those households so the long

00:25:35.710 --> 00:25:38.089
and short of it is it the the the math breaks

00:25:38.089 --> 00:25:41.970
down to roughly 2 .17 children per household

00:25:41.970 --> 00:25:46.789
in the united states And then I went a little

00:25:46.789 --> 00:25:49.210
bit further. Twelve point nine percent of those

00:25:49.210 --> 00:25:52.509
families are with the children under the age

00:25:52.509 --> 00:25:55.329
of 18 are living below the federal poverty line,

00:25:55.490 --> 00:25:59.950
which is an insanely like the poverty line. I

00:25:59.950 --> 00:26:02.390
don't know what the number is now, but like the

00:26:02.390 --> 00:26:04.890
it's like, well, it's like twelve thousand dollars

00:26:04.890 --> 00:26:06.829
or something like it's insane. Yeah. A year.

00:26:06.890 --> 00:26:12.440
Yes. And then. That's up from 11 .3 % in 2014

00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:15.460
of those households. So like, I wonder if there's

00:26:15.460 --> 00:26:20.480
potentially maybe a connection between being

00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:24.200
poor and not wanting to have more children. But

00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:26.400
yeah, that's the long and short of it is I wonder

00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:32.460
if there's a connection between being poor or

00:26:32.460 --> 00:26:35.589
not. I mean, honestly, not having. two income

00:26:35.589 --> 00:26:38.450
household and not wanting to have 94 kids. Like,

00:26:38.470 --> 00:26:44.660
I wonder. And even if you are like. moderately

00:26:44.660 --> 00:26:48.000
wealthy, or even super wealthy, to be honest,

00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:50.980
and you just decide not to have kids because

00:26:50.980 --> 00:26:54.339
they are expensive, I think that's fine. I don't

00:26:54.339 --> 00:26:57.839
think it's a selfish thing for you to say, no,

00:26:58.000 --> 00:26:59.960
I want to spend my money on me and living my

00:26:59.960 --> 00:27:02.720
life. I think that that is totally okay, girl.

00:27:02.740 --> 00:27:05.759
A concept. There are enough people out there

00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:10.079
with 8, 9, 10 kids to counteract everyone that

00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.460
chooses to have zero. You know what I mean? Like

00:27:12.460 --> 00:27:16.299
the population of humanity is not in danger.

00:27:17.579 --> 00:27:20.059
And even if it is, we'll be dead before it's

00:27:20.059 --> 00:27:22.279
gone. So I don't care. I like, I know that's

00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:24.960
such like a weird take to have, but like this

00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:28.240
whole notion that you specifically are responsible

00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:31.920
for keeping a population going is asinine. And

00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:35.579
I thought there were places like Eastern Asia

00:27:35.579 --> 00:27:38.940
that were way overpopulated. When did we stop

00:27:38.940 --> 00:27:42.119
caring about that? Because I feel like we heard

00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:46.660
about that so much, like, I don't know, seven,

00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.339
eight years ago. That was a talking point where

00:27:49.339 --> 00:27:53.900
I think they've moved away from it because I'm

00:27:53.900 --> 00:27:55.880
probably for this very reason, because people

00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.000
in the United States, people in Western Europe

00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.299
are I'm sorry. Yeah. Western Europe are having

00:28:02.299 --> 00:28:06.390
less and less kids. Yeah. And. So they didn't

00:28:06.390 --> 00:28:08.309
want to talk as much about how the world's already

00:28:08.309 --> 00:28:10.950
overpopulated? I don't know. Or maybe how they're

00:28:10.950 --> 00:28:14.009
ahead of us. I don't know. It's asinine, though.

00:28:14.069 --> 00:28:16.730
That's the long and short of it. Yeah. Well,

00:28:16.829 --> 00:28:19.970
Dr. Oz being in the White House is asinine, to

00:28:19.970 --> 00:28:23.269
be honest. The entire administration. It's a

00:28:23.269 --> 00:28:27.710
circus. Everything that comes out of it is just...

00:28:34.779 --> 00:28:37.039
So, you know how sometimes we're an AI podcast.

00:28:38.019 --> 00:28:42.519
My TikTok is an AI for you page. God, my Twitter

00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.799
is literally AI bots talking to each other. Yes,

00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.279
yes. And I can see it. I can tell that it's two

00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:54.339
AI chatbots talking to each other. The new trend

00:28:54.339 --> 00:28:57.319
that I keep seeing, though, is people saying

00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.660
they're hiring. AI chiefs of staff. And I'm like,

00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.319
oh, my God, you're using Claude Code. Please

00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.779
stop. You're unwell. Like, you are unwell. Okay.

00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.559
I can actually see both sides of the argument.

00:29:11.660 --> 00:29:13.940
You know where I stand on AI. I do. I think it's

00:29:13.940 --> 00:29:18.160
demented. Do I think it's incredible that we

00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:22.940
are living through an era where we have... created

00:29:22.940 --> 00:29:26.440
such a thing that can design like a like an electronic

00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:31.980
personal assistant that you coach into doing

00:29:31.980 --> 00:29:35.859
for you what you needed to do like that's not

00:29:35.859 --> 00:29:38.579
lost on me that that's an amazing feat however

00:29:38.579 --> 00:29:44.480
Brittany you don't need it to organize your Pilates

00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.119
work to respond to your emails to do all of it

00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.730
for you like I know remember the beginning of

00:29:51.730 --> 00:29:55.569
this podcast a little over a year ago now when

00:29:55.569 --> 00:29:59.210
i said we're all just gonna lose the ability

00:29:59.210 --> 00:30:02.859
to think yes that is where i'm at with it now

00:30:02.859 --> 00:30:06.619
we're also talking about memory issues because

00:30:06.619 --> 00:30:10.880
you're expecting ai to remember everything you've

00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.000
ever told it and if it doesn't you will just

00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:17.039
not remember it and like no so here's the thing

00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:19.500
about like these ai tools so the other thing

00:30:19.500 --> 00:30:23.779
that like keeps popping up on my tiktok is it's

00:30:23.779 --> 00:30:26.279
it's vibe coding is what it is it's like you

00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.380
you give you give the prompt an idea and it spits

00:30:29.380 --> 00:30:32.819
out the front end ui of an app yeah i think like

00:30:32.819 --> 00:30:37.210
okay if you I can argue both sides of that. I

00:30:37.210 --> 00:30:39.349
think, number one, it's a security disaster.

00:30:39.769 --> 00:30:42.670
That's problem number one. Number two, if you're

00:30:42.670 --> 00:30:45.569
putting it out there and you're... There's a

00:30:45.569 --> 00:30:47.710
guy on TikTok that was like, my friends send

00:30:47.710 --> 00:30:49.930
me these apps and they're all pieces of shit.

00:30:50.089 --> 00:30:52.710
I don't want to fucking look at your... You probably

00:30:52.710 --> 00:30:55.089
have loads of friends who have sent you a text,

00:30:55.250 --> 00:30:57.210
yo, check this thing out I just built in Claude.

00:30:57.230 --> 00:30:59.130
It's so sick. And then you have to click this

00:30:59.130 --> 00:31:01.009
fucking link and it is the worst piece of shit

00:31:01.009 --> 00:31:05.250
you've ever seen. It sucks more than an art project

00:31:05.250 --> 00:31:07.230
you made in fourth grade. And you have to...

00:31:07.230 --> 00:31:10.569
Oh, so cool, man. Every time. Yo, yo, yo, yo,

00:31:10.569 --> 00:31:12.809
yo. Check this out. Check this out. I put all

00:31:12.809 --> 00:31:15.390
my Spotify playlists are available on this website.

00:31:15.509 --> 00:31:18.170
And you could search it by artist. But I don't

00:31:18.170 --> 00:31:20.390
want to. And it looks like garbage. Yeah, but

00:31:20.390 --> 00:31:23.210
I made it. What are you, my son? I don't give

00:31:23.210 --> 00:31:26.569
a... You made it? Terrible. Whatever. You still

00:31:26.569 --> 00:31:28.970
have to put work in. I'm actually very close

00:31:28.970 --> 00:31:31.589
to this world. Yes, you are. Because Kenny doesn't...

00:31:32.140 --> 00:31:34.599
Kenny didn't go to school for coding, but he

00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.940
wanted to create a website. He started vibe coding.

00:31:38.339 --> 00:31:42.059
But when I tell you it's not, he sat down, wrote

00:31:42.059 --> 00:31:46.059
a few prompts and left it. It's like four hours

00:31:46.059 --> 00:31:49.799
a day for like three months straight. Still,

00:31:49.940 --> 00:31:53.609
even though he's not the one coding. you still

00:31:53.609 --> 00:31:56.289
have to like and now you have to babysit it basically

00:31:56.289 --> 00:31:59.970
yeah and now the website is actually cool but

00:31:59.970 --> 00:32:02.410
here's the thing i'm looking at it and i'm not

00:32:02.410 --> 00:32:05.230
like i you know i love kenny yeah this looks

00:32:05.230 --> 00:32:09.630
like every ai coded website they all look exactly

00:32:09.630 --> 00:32:11.549
the same to me and here's the thing i won't take

00:32:11.549 --> 00:32:14.009
away from like coding is not easy like you i

00:32:14.009 --> 00:32:16.950
i sent you the screenshot of like what the python

00:32:16.950 --> 00:32:19.250
script i ran to like do something for the podcast

00:32:19.250 --> 00:32:23.299
and I attempted to teach myself how to do it.

00:32:23.299 --> 00:32:24.839
And there was one thing that kept going wrong.

00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:26.640
So I took it into Claude and I said, can you

00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:28.759
help me like figure, can you debug this for me?

00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.380
And it was like, oh yeah, you like didn't indent

00:32:31.380 --> 00:32:33.819
something the right way. And like, it comes down

00:32:33.819 --> 00:32:35.660
to some of those kinds of things. I think Claude

00:32:35.660 --> 00:32:38.180
is an incredible use case for something like

00:32:38.180 --> 00:32:43.140
that. I would rather die than like tell Claude,

00:32:43.140 --> 00:32:44.700
chat, GPT, Jim, and I don't care what it is,

00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:47.910
what you want to do. And just let it spit it

00:32:47.910 --> 00:32:49.410
out for you because like then it's like that

00:32:49.410 --> 00:32:52.349
takes away from the journey of getting there.

00:32:52.369 --> 00:32:55.549
Like, do you feel ownership of that? Are you

00:32:55.549 --> 00:32:59.130
proud of that? Like, I feel like you would feel

00:32:59.130 --> 00:33:04.089
what's the word? It's like, so you cheated. No,

00:33:04.190 --> 00:33:06.769
like when you actually complete something and

00:33:06.769 --> 00:33:09.910
you feel, yeah, we're going to miss out on that

00:33:09.910 --> 00:33:12.410
completely. Because if you work towards something

00:33:12.410 --> 00:33:16.549
that like pay off. of, like you said, self -actualization

00:33:16.549 --> 00:33:20.730
at the end just like doesn't exist if you're

00:33:20.730 --> 00:33:22.789
believing in a robot to spit it out for you.

00:33:22.910 --> 00:33:25.930
Right. The other thing, too, is like people have

00:33:25.930 --> 00:33:28.450
become so it's like it's a self -awareness thing

00:33:28.450 --> 00:33:32.549
that we've gotten to where like we we know. that

00:33:32.549 --> 00:33:34.930
everyone's writing emails with like AI, whatever.

00:33:35.089 --> 00:33:37.890
There's a new browser plugin that adds typos

00:33:37.890 --> 00:33:40.329
into your AI generated emails to make them look

00:33:40.329 --> 00:33:43.710
real. And I'm like, we've lost the plot entirely.

00:33:44.089 --> 00:33:48.710
It's so over. That is so, that actually just

00:33:48.710 --> 00:33:53.390
like hurt my brain to hear. And like, and I,

00:33:53.390 --> 00:33:56.730
it's come to a point where like, it's not just

00:33:56.730 --> 00:33:58.690
something that's out there that's like available

00:33:58.690 --> 00:34:01.029
for adoption. It's something that like we're,

00:34:01.710 --> 00:34:04.750
on a societal level like titans of industry are

00:34:04.750 --> 00:34:07.890
like pushing it on people like and Sam Altman

00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:10.130
like I'll give him this like he's not one of

00:34:10.130 --> 00:34:12.889
these people that says you must must must use

00:34:12.889 --> 00:34:15.949
AI in every facet of everyday life I think he's

00:34:15.949 --> 00:34:19.329
been pretty good about that the um anthropic

00:34:19.329 --> 00:34:22.889
the the people that own Claude they put out like

00:34:22.889 --> 00:34:24.730
I think it's a public service thing where they're

00:34:24.730 --> 00:34:26.590
like trying to offset some of the negative that's

00:34:26.590 --> 00:34:29.510
come out of it where they'll say like hey If

00:34:29.510 --> 00:34:31.670
you ever actually have a question about something

00:34:31.670 --> 00:34:34.210
that you, like, aren't 100 % sure Claude's giving

00:34:34.210 --> 00:34:36.429
you the right answer, we want you to go talk

00:34:36.429 --> 00:34:38.969
to a person you trust. Like, it's not making

00:34:38.969 --> 00:34:43.090
the... I feel like, honestly, the people behind

00:34:43.090 --> 00:34:47.050
the AI companies have had a much cooler head

00:34:47.050 --> 00:34:50.690
and a more realistic expectation than the people

00:34:50.690 --> 00:34:53.230
who are actually using it. Because, like, to

00:34:53.230 --> 00:34:56.440
someone, like... Like, I think about my uncle

00:34:56.440 --> 00:35:00.480
Roy a lot that died when I was like 16. He loved

00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.280
technology like the quad chat. That would have

00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.179
been like magic in his mind where like it would

00:35:07.179 --> 00:35:11.000
have been his new best friend. And but back to

00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.219
this notion of like pushing it on people. So,

00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.400
oh, yeah, I don't like how that's all of a sudden

00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:19.400
become a thing. You like the fact that you have

00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:26.119
to turn. google ai off but not on that and and

00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.460
just like the subtle hints i'm just constantly

00:35:29.460 --> 00:35:32.539
being run through ai and i'm like well you know

00:35:32.539 --> 00:35:35.280
instagram like the search bar's meta ai now like

00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.400
which that's either here or there like i can

00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:41.579
take or leave that but you've got people speaking

00:35:41.579 --> 00:35:44.800
at commencement speeches of graduations at college

00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:48.420
where you have people who ostensibly, like, I

00:35:48.420 --> 00:35:52.519
have to assume the vast majority of people put

00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.300
in the work when it comes to a four -year degree.

00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.960
I'm sure that, like, we're, what, 2026? So, realistically,

00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.880
for people that graduated their undergrad this

00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:04.340
year, some iteration of AI was available to them

00:36:04.340 --> 00:36:08.579
the entire time. I'm sure that some portion of

00:36:08.579 --> 00:36:11.619
the people in that... in that graduating class

00:36:11.619 --> 00:36:14.340
used ai to get through every bit of it but i

00:36:14.340 --> 00:36:16.360
have to assume that the vast majority of people

00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:19.699
put in the work and and there are some people

00:36:19.699 --> 00:36:22.219
like i mean for you like you for the most part

00:36:22.219 --> 00:36:24.840
who are just staunchly against it and i think

00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.380
that's a very very valid point you've people

00:36:27.380 --> 00:36:29.280
getting out there saying ai is the wave of the

00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.760
future like whatever and these people and i'm

00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.320
so glad it's happening they're literally getting

00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:37.460
booed off the fucking stage and i i'm just like

00:36:38.650 --> 00:36:41.550
You were these people put in work for four years

00:36:41.550 --> 00:36:43.090
and you're like, well, I was going to take your

00:36:43.090 --> 00:36:45.750
entry level fucking job. Fuck you. Like, why

00:36:45.750 --> 00:36:49.960
are you here? I just. It's one thing for you

00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:54.099
to sit at home and play with your AI and do your

00:36:54.099 --> 00:36:56.760
silly little thing and whatever. It's another

00:36:56.760 --> 00:37:00.500
thing for you to step outside of that home and

00:37:00.500 --> 00:37:04.500
then go tell people who believe in the power

00:37:04.500 --> 00:37:08.940
of human knowledge and learning that AI is the

00:37:08.940 --> 00:37:11.599
wave of the future. Like, you're sick. Yes. You're

00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.179
sick. And if you want to use it for your business,

00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.280
that's amazing. You cannot be a person who is

00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.570
respected. who is someone who people listen to

00:37:20.570 --> 00:37:24.409
and force that on people. That is not okay. I'll

00:37:24.409 --> 00:37:27.789
die on that hill. But on the other side of this,

00:37:27.809 --> 00:37:31.489
Steve Wozniak, one of the Steves that founded

00:37:31.489 --> 00:37:36.250
Apple, spoke at a college graduation. Where was

00:37:36.250 --> 00:37:39.849
it? I don't remember. But his speech gave me

00:37:39.849 --> 00:37:41.869
a little bit of hope. I'll clip his little part

00:37:41.869 --> 00:37:46.449
of that speech in here. You all have AI. You

00:37:46.449 --> 00:37:55.550
all have AI. actual intelligence. My entire life

00:37:55.550 --> 00:37:58.130
in the technical world, I've been following people

00:37:58.130 --> 00:37:59.730
that were trying to figure out how to make a

00:37:59.730 --> 00:38:02.909
brain, software, hardware, synapse chips. And

00:38:02.909 --> 00:38:05.030
I was at a company where the engineers figured

00:38:05.030 --> 00:38:10.730
out how to make a brain. Takes nine months. Is

00:38:10.730 --> 00:38:12.789
that actually like, I think that that was something

00:38:12.789 --> 00:38:16.550
that like we have lost. in a way that's like,

00:38:16.610 --> 00:38:18.349
oh, we can give it to Claude, we can give it

00:38:18.349 --> 00:38:20.510
to Gemini, we can do whatever. And, like, technology

00:38:20.510 --> 00:38:25.090
is so incredible, but I'm like, you have to still

00:38:25.090 --> 00:38:32.250
value the human side of it. I looked at him crazy

00:38:32.250 --> 00:38:34.570
because he wiggled all the way down in his seat

00:38:34.570 --> 00:38:38.809
and he laughed at me. But, yeah, like, that's...

00:38:38.809 --> 00:38:43.869
It's... We're losing the plot so... And like

00:38:43.869 --> 00:38:46.289
the voices like Steve Wozniak are becoming fewer

00:38:46.289 --> 00:38:49.150
and fewer. I don't know. I don't know. And I

00:38:49.150 --> 00:38:52.929
just, I knew. I knew. You were right. The minute

00:38:52.929 --> 00:38:57.030
ChatGPT became readily available for anyone who

00:38:57.030 --> 00:38:59.909
wanted it for free. I was like, this is bad news

00:38:59.909 --> 00:39:05.269
bears. People will take convenience every time.

00:39:05.349 --> 00:39:06.929
It's like, it's probably like an evolutionary

00:39:06.929 --> 00:39:10.969
thing. On some level it probably is. Because

00:39:10.969 --> 00:39:14.760
is it easier? to go to chat gpt and be like tell

00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.880
me what to make for dinner send this email for

00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:20.179
me do this do that do that do this yeah probably

00:39:20.179 --> 00:39:24.440
is it though like then just like because it takes

00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:26.440
away the decision making piece of it okay maybe

00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.800
maybe yeah you can keep your brain in autopilot

00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.539
all day never have to think about anything ever

00:39:32.539 --> 00:39:36.360
you're gonna get dementia exactly my point I've

00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.900
been saying this forever. You hold on to zero

00:39:38.900 --> 00:39:42.099
thoughts. You're not exercising your brain. I

00:39:42.099 --> 00:39:45.579
bet we see a serious uptick and I'm, I'm like

00:39:45.579 --> 00:39:48.199
not even joking at all. I'm not a doctor. Obviously

00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.659
I'm not studying this enough. Like a serious,

00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:58.039
like the, the, what was it between 1972 and 1998?

00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.239
Like it wasn't a super long time. The attention

00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:04.179
span dropped from like, it's cut in half. Like

00:40:04.179 --> 00:40:08.530
it's insane. what we've already seen happen like

00:40:08.530 --> 00:40:11.030
on a cognitive level on a societal level because

00:40:11.030 --> 00:40:14.730
like it's so readily available and i think people

00:40:14.730 --> 00:40:16.949
don't care and i'm one of those people i don't

00:40:16.949 --> 00:40:19.110
really care what is done with my data like oh

00:40:19.110 --> 00:40:24.119
i don't care about girl whatever but I don't

00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.059
think that people understand how it works. I

00:40:26.059 --> 00:40:28.519
don't think they understand the ramifications

00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:30.820
of what they're doing to themselves or to the

00:40:30.820 --> 00:40:34.300
environment or to society as a whole. I feel

00:40:34.300 --> 00:40:38.260
like people have just started using it without

00:40:38.260 --> 00:40:41.739
considering the downsides ever. It's like the

00:40:41.739 --> 00:40:45.639
classic, just because we could, does that mean

00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:50.869
we should? Yeah, I agree. On a lighter note,

00:40:50.949 --> 00:40:53.309
what the fuck is Meghan Trainor doing? Oh, my

00:40:53.309 --> 00:40:56.610
God. Oh, Zen pic? I don't know. She's been skinny

00:40:56.610 --> 00:41:00.690
for a while, actually. Then, like, like... Or,

00:41:00.690 --> 00:41:02.230
like, just pull the table, like, a little bit

00:41:02.230 --> 00:41:03.730
over, because it's, like, not picking up as much

00:41:03.730 --> 00:41:07.530
anymore. The thinness isn't what I'm talking

00:41:07.530 --> 00:41:10.369
about. Actually, she's been skinny for a while.

00:41:10.510 --> 00:41:12.849
I just made that up. Well, she does have a Zen

00:41:12.849 --> 00:41:15.710
pic face. She 100 % has a Zen pic face. But...

00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:18.929
The the bigger question that I have is like,

00:41:18.969 --> 00:41:21.070
so she put out this new album and it's. Yeah,

00:41:21.150 --> 00:41:24.630
I will say I will give her there is the one song

00:41:24.630 --> 00:41:29.070
that was all over TikTok. Shimmer, I think it's

00:41:29.070 --> 00:41:31.630
called that. I actually really do like that song.

00:41:31.750 --> 00:41:36.010
I'll give her that. But it's it doesn't like

00:41:36.010 --> 00:41:38.090
if you put Shimmer next to like all about that

00:41:38.090 --> 00:41:44.269
bass next to lips are moving next to. Like any

00:41:44.269 --> 00:41:48.659
of her like. old music it it is almost unrecognizable

00:41:48.659 --> 00:41:55.179
to that she is like all in all just um like not

00:41:55.179 --> 00:41:58.440
even a stone's throw away from where she started

00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.880
i don't know no but i've seen a lot of speculation

00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:06.800
online where like they're like her music team

00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:11.769
like went into some ai model and said Give me

00:42:11.769 --> 00:42:14.670
every popular term on Instagram and TikTok right

00:42:14.670 --> 00:42:17.429
now. And they just that's what the titles of

00:42:17.429 --> 00:42:20.869
songs became. And the other thing, too, is the

00:42:20.869 --> 00:42:25.530
the visuals, the dances. It all seems like she's

00:42:25.530 --> 00:42:28.309
telling people what she wants the trend to be

00:42:28.309 --> 00:42:30.869
like. This is what I want the TikTok dance to

00:42:30.869 --> 00:42:32.949
be to this song. And I think that's we've gotten

00:42:32.949 --> 00:42:35.389
away from like letting people discover things

00:42:35.389 --> 00:42:37.110
and enjoy them. It's like it's all become such

00:42:37.110 --> 00:42:40.079
like a. a business model for lack of a better

00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:45.199
term but the backlash from her fans has gotten

00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:48.300
so bad that she had to cancel like something

00:42:48.300 --> 00:42:50.260
insane like all but four of the stops on her

00:42:50.260 --> 00:42:52.860
North American tour like something insane like

00:42:52.860 --> 00:42:56.599
that and I was like there's real money that is

00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.699
being lost there like and I'm talking on like

00:42:59.699 --> 00:43:03.119
on the production level on the like the local

00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:04.960
level where like do you know what Taylor Swift

00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.599
came to Indianapolis like it was one of the best

00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:10.199
things that has ever happened to the economy

00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:13.440
for this city. Look at Bad Bunny in Puerto Rico.

00:43:13.579 --> 00:43:15.739
Single -handedly it turned their economy around.

00:43:15.780 --> 00:43:18.199
Right. I mean, he's the reason, like, why, like,

00:43:18.300 --> 00:43:20.980
electricity is coming back to certain parts of

00:43:20.980 --> 00:43:24.699
that region now. Yeah. Because, like, they haven't

00:43:24.699 --> 00:43:26.980
had, like, in some parts, they haven't had electricity

00:43:26.980 --> 00:43:31.360
since Hurricane Zerma. I don't remember which

00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.179
one. Since the hurricane that, like, decimated

00:43:33.179 --> 00:43:37.170
Puerto Rico. I'm just like I think he personally

00:43:37.170 --> 00:43:39.809
helped with that too but yeah yes he did but

00:43:39.809 --> 00:43:43.489
the the it's like we're moving away from like

00:43:43.489 --> 00:43:44.969
people enjoying things and it's like now we're

00:43:44.969 --> 00:43:46.469
going to tell you what to enjoy which is neither

00:43:46.469 --> 00:43:48.570
here nor there but like people are going to react

00:43:48.570 --> 00:43:50.550
the way they are do you know who I feel like

00:43:50.550 --> 00:43:52.550
is the opposite of that right now and a real

00:43:52.550 --> 00:43:56.829
breath of fresh air miss Zara Larson oh my god

00:43:56.829 --> 00:44:04.070
yes her Kesha um who's the uh The one where they're

00:44:04.070 --> 00:44:05.590
just like, I'm just going to do what I like doing.

00:44:05.690 --> 00:44:07.989
If you like it, I want you to like it. Yeah.

00:44:08.090 --> 00:44:10.909
If it tops off, I'll be happy. But if not, I'm

00:44:10.909 --> 00:44:15.710
also an artist. It is just very much like that.

00:44:15.789 --> 00:44:18.889
I believe that's who they are as people. Like

00:44:18.889 --> 00:44:22.110
Zara Larson is still posting funny TikToks. I

00:44:22.110 --> 00:44:24.670
agree. I think you're probably 100 % right about

00:44:24.670 --> 00:44:27.429
that. But I do feel that a lot from certain artists

00:44:27.429 --> 00:44:31.190
where they're like. Okay, here's the TikTok dance

00:44:31.190 --> 00:44:34.630
for my latest song. Right. Let me show it to

00:44:34.630 --> 00:44:38.369
you so you can make me viral. No, but I agree

00:44:38.369 --> 00:44:41.230
with you about that. It's like, oh, the make

00:44:41.230 --> 00:44:45.929
me viral thing, because it's like, I don't know.

00:44:46.070 --> 00:44:49.570
Like, it's... Come by your own right. Yeah. Come

00:44:49.570 --> 00:44:51.690
out with something super fun and cool, and people

00:44:51.690 --> 00:44:53.889
will like it, and you'll go viral the old -fashioned

00:44:53.889 --> 00:44:57.269
way. And I think Meghan Trainor is... She's genuinely

00:44:57.269 --> 00:45:00.429
talented. Like, I remember seeing her live in,

00:45:00.469 --> 00:45:04.309
like, 2014. I mean, she was new, new. And, like,

00:45:04.309 --> 00:45:07.489
I was like, oh, she can sing. Oh, yeah. She has

00:45:07.489 --> 00:45:10.730
a genuinely really good voice. Yeah. And from

00:45:10.730 --> 00:45:13.190
what I've heard, is otherwise very musically

00:45:13.190 --> 00:45:16.369
talented. And I've heard she's a wonderful person,

00:45:16.449 --> 00:45:19.010
like, just in life. And, like. Married to the

00:45:19.010 --> 00:45:22.469
kid from Spy Kids. Yes. So cute. Right. I think

00:45:22.469 --> 00:45:26.659
all of that has really kind of. left the chat.

00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:30.219
I haven't heard her just sing acapella and be

00:45:30.219 --> 00:45:33.500
cute for years. She used to make those TikToks

00:45:33.500 --> 00:45:36.539
with Junie from Spy Kids and I'm like, I like

00:45:36.539 --> 00:45:38.820
that. I didn't really care about Meghan Trainor.

00:45:39.179 --> 00:45:43.280
I don't care about who she is as a person. That's

00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.460
cool. Live your life, whatever. But the backlash

00:45:46.460 --> 00:45:49.260
got super bad. Part of the problem is I think

00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:53.360
she's never... like really been disliked and

00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.639
so she can't yeah because i never really like

00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:59.579
was in love with her above his people were but

00:45:59.579 --> 00:46:02.980
it's like if you didn't like megan trainer it's

00:46:02.980 --> 00:46:04.619
not like you needed to go out and hate on her

00:46:04.619 --> 00:46:07.539
because she's like whatever right okay it's like

00:46:07.539 --> 00:46:09.320
i don't like taylor switch but i don't need to

00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:13.659
go hate her either sure well i'm gonna cut that

00:46:13.659 --> 00:46:15.320
because the internet's gonna cut after you but

00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.260
i'll say it loud and proud Ever since the era

00:46:20.260 --> 00:46:26.320
of our song and Teardrops on My Guitar, I haven't

00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:28.960
liked anything. I'm sorry. I liked, what was

00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.300
the song where she was like, the old Taylor's

00:46:31.300 --> 00:46:33.579
dead or whatever. I liked that song a lot. That's

00:46:33.579 --> 00:46:35.199
why I stopped liking her. I was like, why are

00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:40.139
you being weird? Oh, I like the weird. But there's

00:46:40.139 --> 00:46:43.820
room for debate there. Yeah, but it's not a big

00:46:43.820 --> 00:46:45.539
deal. I can say she was talented when it was

00:46:45.539 --> 00:46:47.179
Teardrops on My Guitar. She was very, very talented.

00:46:48.819 --> 00:46:50.579
So what's happened with Meghan Trainor, though,

00:46:50.659 --> 00:46:52.559
is like it's like people are like my hands off.

00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:54.019
I'm done. And I don't think she knows how to

00:46:54.019 --> 00:46:55.519
handle that. So she's not really saying anything

00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.099
publicly. But her little friend, Chris Olsen,

00:46:58.139 --> 00:47:01.500
is. And that's another one. I'm just not interested

00:47:01.500 --> 00:47:03.960
in his opinion about anything. I'm so sorry.

00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.280
If you want me to be really real about that.

00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:11.460
I do. I do. I have not cared or really heard

00:47:11.460 --> 00:47:14.360
a single word really come out of his mouth since

00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.559
he got divorced. I liked him and his little husband

00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.340
together on TikTok. I liked the husband. I didn't.

00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:23.000
Exactly. I never liked Chris. Exactly. I didn't

00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:24.900
realize that until post -divorce that I didn't

00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:27.900
really like him. I liked his relationship with

00:47:27.900 --> 00:47:32.000
his husband. Sure. The husband, I will tell you,

00:47:32.019 --> 00:47:34.500
has taken the high road in a way that I don't

00:47:34.500 --> 00:47:37.320
know a lot of people could because he said there

00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:38.840
are a lot of things I could say about it. I'm

00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.880
not going to say it publicly because I'm just

00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:42.420
not going to do that. He's been incredible about

00:47:42.420 --> 00:47:45.230
it. I've seen that too. I would be on this podcast

00:47:45.230 --> 00:47:49.329
airing all of his dirty laundry. I'm just like,

00:47:49.329 --> 00:47:52.710
she's so insufferable. And I'm like, you, sir,

00:47:52.889 --> 00:47:55.590
are on the internet being yourself. You can't

00:47:55.590 --> 00:47:57.690
handle any negative criticism whatsoever. And

00:47:57.690 --> 00:47:59.510
I think this is like a product of like a generational

00:47:59.510 --> 00:48:01.969
thing where like we've gotten so far away from

00:48:01.969 --> 00:48:04.449
like the way our parents were raised and the

00:48:04.449 --> 00:48:06.349
way like our my granny and papal were raised

00:48:06.349 --> 00:48:08.190
where it's like they had them and they had a

00:48:08.190 --> 00:48:09.869
rough childhood. So it's like they wanted to

00:48:09.869 --> 00:48:11.289
give us everything that we didn't have. And it's

00:48:11.289 --> 00:48:14.239
like. The Gen Z and then, like, Gen Alva, like,

00:48:14.300 --> 00:48:16.719
cannot handle negativity because they just, they

00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:19.159
don't know. They don't know what it looks like.

00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.940
Well, they take any type of criticism as negativity.

00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.179
Yes. But that's not always what it is, you know.

00:48:25.219 --> 00:48:27.380
Some people are genuinely trying to help you

00:48:27.380 --> 00:48:30.780
be better. Right. So, I don't know. But, in Chris

00:48:30.780 --> 00:48:32.139
Olsen's case, I don't want him to get better.

00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:33.840
I just want him to shut the fuck up. I just,

00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:36.679
if I never see his face again, it'll be too soon.

00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:41.239
I know. But. There's that. We're going to complain,

00:48:41.420 --> 00:48:43.619
and then Reality Roundup's going to be cut in

00:48:43.619 --> 00:48:46.300
because it might sound a little different. But

00:48:46.300 --> 00:48:49.059
I want to complain. I want you to complain. I

00:48:49.059 --> 00:48:50.039
want to hear what you have to complain about.

00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.900
So this very morning that we are recording this,

00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:59.059
let us set the scene. I wake up. It's 6 .15.

00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:03.619
That's fine. That's a reasonable time to me.

00:49:05.710 --> 00:49:08.369
I wake up not because the baby is awake, but

00:49:08.369 --> 00:49:13.650
because Kenny is freaking out. So I get up. I'm

00:49:13.650 --> 00:49:17.030
covered in sweat. I don't know. I looked it up.

00:49:17.070 --> 00:49:20.929
It's a hormonal thing, I guess. Oh. Fine. I'll

00:49:20.929 --> 00:49:24.250
sweat. Sure. Let's just keep it pushing. Turns

00:49:24.250 --> 00:49:28.349
out Kenny's freaked out because the dog has pooped

00:49:28.349 --> 00:49:33.219
all... over the house beautiful i'm so happy

00:49:33.219 --> 00:49:38.699
and so stinky i'm so happy and so okay i help

00:49:38.699 --> 00:49:42.760
him clean that up naturally that wakes the baby

00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:47.820
up of course sure let's get our day started fine

00:49:48.940 --> 00:49:54.280
So I get the baby fed. He's chilling. I'm preparing

00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:56.900
the living room for me to take the rug out so

00:49:56.900 --> 00:49:59.820
I can just put it in the washing machine. Thank

00:49:59.820 --> 00:50:02.800
you, Ruggable. I would love a sponsorship, Ruggable.

00:50:06.300 --> 00:50:10.860
Okay. And so I finally crack open some caffeine.

00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:15.059
I'm trying the new lime Red Bull, the, like,

00:50:15.059 --> 00:50:18.179
summer flavor they just came out with. Disgusting.

00:50:18.110 --> 00:50:23.230
Red Bull. Disgusting. How could you? I swear

00:50:23.230 --> 00:50:26.409
to God, you could like I got into my head. I

00:50:26.409 --> 00:50:28.369
could not have told you it was coming here, but

00:50:28.369 --> 00:50:32.050
I'm happy we got here. Please go ahead. Disgusting.

00:50:32.210 --> 00:50:38.150
It was honestly, I was truly shocked. It might

00:50:38.150 --> 00:50:41.730
taste good if you have alcohol. That's the only

00:50:41.730 --> 00:50:44.030
thing I can think of. So I was like, you know

00:50:44.030 --> 00:50:48.280
what? After the morning I've had. I deserve it.

00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:51.159
I'll order a coffee. Okay. But I know we shouldn't

00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:52.960
support Starbucks, and to be honest, I'm kind

00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:56.159
of bored of Starbucks, and so we try a new place.

00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:06.460
Disgusting. It is $25 of the nastiest latte I've

00:51:06.460 --> 00:51:09.079
ever tried. It's like, I don't like cold brew.

00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:11.579
I think it has a weird sour taste to me. Yes,

00:51:11.579 --> 00:51:15.510
it's very bitter or acidic, yeah. They used cold

00:51:15.510 --> 00:51:18.869
brew for a latte without my consent. What the

00:51:18.869 --> 00:51:24.750
fuck? And so I just moved on with my day. Whatever,

00:51:24.929 --> 00:51:29.389
whatever, whatever. We are washing the rug. We're

00:51:29.389 --> 00:51:33.469
getting the baby to sleep. It's great. We go

00:51:33.469 --> 00:51:36.230
for a walk. We come back. We're recording this

00:51:36.230 --> 00:51:39.630
podcast and the baby poops all over himself in

00:51:39.630 --> 00:51:42.309
his chair and his clothes and his changing table.

00:51:44.219 --> 00:51:46.380
So that's my day. That is what I'm complaining

00:51:46.380 --> 00:51:50.420
about. I will give you. I can tell. So we did

00:51:50.420 --> 00:51:52.820
our daily FaceTime. You were on a walk with Jack

00:51:52.820 --> 00:51:57.300
in August. And I could tell on that FaceTime.

00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.469
I was like. She is not interested in hearing

00:52:00.469 --> 00:52:02.809
about any of my bullshit right now. Oh, that's

00:52:02.809 --> 00:52:05.250
not true. I was fucked. You were in a bad fucking

00:52:05.250 --> 00:52:09.150
mood. I'm the same way. If I get really hungry,

00:52:09.409 --> 00:52:12.150
I am a fucking nightmare to be around. You weren't

00:52:12.150 --> 00:52:14.809
a nightmare. I could tell you were just like,

00:52:14.929 --> 00:52:19.210
I don't have it in me right now to expend my

00:52:19.210 --> 00:52:22.530
conversational skills. That's okay. I think I

00:52:22.530 --> 00:52:25.190
know exactly what was triggering that face for

00:52:25.190 --> 00:52:29.010
me, and it wasn't you. It was... A certain tapping

00:52:29.010 --> 00:52:34.250
on my arm every three seconds. You were overstimulated.

00:52:34.409 --> 00:52:37.989
Yeah. Anyways, yeah. I hate that you had a bad

00:52:37.989 --> 00:52:40.949
day, and I pray to God that when I go to get

00:52:40.949 --> 00:52:43.409
my hair cut, I take all of the negativity out

00:52:43.409 --> 00:52:45.670
of this house with me. If you do, I hope they

00:52:45.670 --> 00:52:49.050
cut it right off your head. Rebuke it. I want

00:52:49.050 --> 00:52:51.809
to complain about Xfinity being on their bullshit.

00:52:52.730 --> 00:52:56.869
Tell me. I get an email this morning that says,

00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.550
And I'll read it to you. You'll see a data. I'm

00:53:00.550 --> 00:53:02.929
sorry. You'll see Internet data overage fees

00:53:02.929 --> 00:53:05.769
on your next bill. You use more than the 1 .2

00:53:05.769 --> 00:53:07.989
terabytes of data included in your Internet plan

00:53:07.989 --> 00:53:10.989
for May 2026. You can continue to use your Internet

00:53:10.989 --> 00:53:13.650
service, but you are now being charged a $10

00:53:13.650 --> 00:53:18.469
plus tax fee for each 50 gigabyte block of additional

00:53:18.469 --> 00:53:21.369
data this month. Monthly overage fees will not

00:53:21.369 --> 00:53:24.070
exceed $100 and your data will reset on the first

00:53:24.070 --> 00:53:27.550
day of each month. Number one, I didn't know

00:53:27.550 --> 00:53:29.349
that there is a limit to how much internet I

00:53:29.349 --> 00:53:32.670
could use. I never once thought about that. Number

00:53:32.670 --> 00:53:35.429
two, take a wild guess on how much my Xfinity

00:53:35.429 --> 00:53:38.769
bill is each month. God, I think I'm going to

00:53:38.769 --> 00:53:43.250
throw up. $310 .35 a month. To be fair, I have

00:53:43.250 --> 00:53:47.909
internet and TV on the same plan. $310 a month.

00:53:48.869 --> 00:53:53.110
Yikes. And you want to tell me you're potentially

00:53:53.110 --> 00:53:56.309
going to charge me an extra $100 even though

00:53:56.309 --> 00:54:01.510
you are In my county, the only internet that's

00:54:01.510 --> 00:54:03.670
available that you can get because you've created

00:54:03.670 --> 00:54:06.889
a monopoly in Shelby County. Fuck you and the

00:54:06.889 --> 00:54:09.230
horse you rode on. I think that's exactly why

00:54:09.230 --> 00:54:12.150
they're okay with their HR being, no, their HR,

00:54:12.170 --> 00:54:16.050
their PR being so bad because they know that

00:54:16.050 --> 00:54:18.130
like people are stuck with them all over the

00:54:18.130 --> 00:54:20.429
place. And I'm just like, like, and they, they

00:54:20.429 --> 00:54:22.550
have a lot because like Shelby County has had

00:54:22.550 --> 00:54:26.190
on several occasions. One company tried to come

00:54:26.190 --> 00:54:30.309
in and bring in fiber optic internet. And Xfinity

00:54:30.309 --> 00:54:34.210
has shut that down. The people in the planning

00:54:34.210 --> 00:54:37.030
commission will not even entertain at this point

00:54:37.030 --> 00:54:38.869
because Xfinity has such a chokehold on accounting.

00:54:39.110 --> 00:54:45.369
It's so annoying. Take it to the Supreme Court.

00:54:45.969 --> 00:54:49.070
There's a monopoly here. I have to imagine that

00:54:49.070 --> 00:54:51.840
there's probably... It has to break some kind

00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:56.599
of antitrust law. It has to. Like, but, I don't,

00:54:56.619 --> 00:54:59.179
like, I think they have, like, different regions

00:54:59.179 --> 00:55:00.679
of the country where they're allowed to, like,

00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:02.219
do this. Like, I feel like I remember something

00:55:02.219 --> 00:55:04.639
about this. But, like, I'm just like, I pay $310

00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:08.860
a month for internet and TV. Fuck you. You're

00:55:08.860 --> 00:55:11.960
just getting an extra $100 wherever you can scrape

00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:15.500
it together. Jesus. You are one of the most valuable

00:55:15.500 --> 00:55:18.139
companies in existence. Like, Xfinity is owned

00:55:18.139 --> 00:55:20.539
by Comcast, which is owned by their parent company.

00:55:20.989 --> 00:55:23.030
Their parent company is NBC Universal. Yeah.

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They're fine. You're not hurting for money. No.

00:55:26.730 --> 00:55:30.170
Like... Yeah. But that's where we're at today.

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Which, by the way, is so crazy. Like, you have

00:55:33.170 --> 00:55:35.849
to go in... I've always thought this with, like,

00:55:35.849 --> 00:55:38.769
any kind of parent company situation. The fact

00:55:38.769 --> 00:55:43.349
that you have to pay Xfinity and Peacock is,

00:55:43.409 --> 00:55:46.230
like... So that's the other weird thing, too,

00:55:46.269 --> 00:55:48.469
is, like, there's so many licensing things with

00:55:48.469 --> 00:55:51.340
these things. Yeah. Like, I... I have to assume

00:55:51.340 --> 00:55:53.960
it all stems back to where they were all their

00:55:53.960 --> 00:55:57.719
own individual companies. Before they were under

00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:01.340
the umbrella, yeah. Right. Because NBC didn't

00:56:01.340 --> 00:56:04.260
used to be the same as Universal, did they? No,

00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:09.960
NBC acquired Universal after they were sold off

00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:11.940
by Warner Brothers. Time Warner is, I think,

00:56:11.940 --> 00:56:14.639
who sold off Universal. And they did a lot with

00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:21.489
that. Peacock has been specifically NBCUniversal

00:56:21.489 --> 00:56:23.750
since its inception, so I don't understand why

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I have to pay for both. Because I will and I

00:56:25.869 --> 00:56:30.250
do. Yeah, that's probably why. Because you will.

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Because they know I'm going to watch The Real

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Housewives. And it's not just you. It's everyone.

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Because they will do it. Because they'll shake

00:56:36.289 --> 00:56:39.449
everyone down for $13 a month if they can. But

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that's where we're at today. We'll be back for

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Reality Roundup.