reality roundup: A New York State of Mind with Husbands Watching Housewives (RHONY Season 16 Premiere)

0:01 There we go. Okay. Hi, I'm Travis. I'm Emma. I'm Scott. I'm Jeff. And this is Bestie approved in Husbands Watching Housewives. Also, straight off the jump, I should probably apologize. Our show has not posted anything in the last two months. Emma and I have had stuff going on. I've had a depression. We've had family issues. I've spent 48 of the last 72 hours in a hospital with my granny. It's a lot. I'm sorry. We'll be back, though. I promise. There are two episodes still to be edited that we recorded two months ago.

0:46 I started trying to listen to one of them. We're talking about Old, old, old news. So that's going to have to be released as a bonus episode at some point. So we are starting from scratch next week. It's fine. Life happens. Life happens. Yeah, and then housewives bring people together, see? We got you out of your funk to talk about Roni. Yay. We did. And I was thinking about this, like, this morning, where... I was like rewatching the episode while I was taking notes and I was like, I'm so excited to come back and like talk about this. Like this is, I, I, I couldn't be happier. Yeah. We were really surprised that we were as into it as we were. Cause you didn't know what to expect with like, cause it's a reboot of a reboot almost. So you just don't know what to expect with the three girls from the reboot and then Carol and the three new girl. It just, but yeah, it was refreshing to say the least.

1:43 so emma and i a while back talked about that actually before we get into it first what's the last song everyone listened to because i will go off the rails i don't know the name of it but it was some holly humberstone muna collaboration which really made me happy so i i first song i've added to a playlist in a really long time that i need to have that so it was good what about you yeah there we go emma Oh, mine is a throwback, but such a good one that I have forgotten about. It's Lovin' That You Want by Rihanna. Yes. Nice. That's a classic. What about you, Jeff? Actually, it was Spice Up Your Life by the Spice Girls. I swear that was playing at the store the other day, too, when we were in there. Is that where you heard it? Is that the last song you listened to? No, no, I heard it as I was coming back from the library just a few minutes ago. Nice, nice. I love this. Mine is also a deep cut throwback. It's Commander with David Guetta and Kelly Rowland. Oh, yes.

2:59 And I'm going to be honest, Scott, I don't know the song you were talking about. So if it's from that same era, love that for all of us. But like, I feel like Emma, Jeff and I have a very gay like playlist right now. And I'm very happy. I think my playlist is just lesbian. I just listened to a lot of sad lesbian music, but gay too. We're not going to put them out, but it's not like the dancey, you know, fun kind. It's just, you know, Let's get a U -Haul and move in together sort of music. And cry. And crying is the important part. Before we dive into Roni, can we talk about seeing Erika Jayne live and in person? Oh yeah, that's right. Please tell more. It was glorious.

3:46 It really was. Erika Jayne was being DJ Pretty Mess that night. We got there and here's the thing. erica erica jane gave me everything i needed my sister also came with us and she was like i don't know who this lady is and like she couldn't figure out like why i was like losing my ever loving mind but she was like okay like i i get why you like her like she she was good i liked her i will say she um after her dj set she did how many fucks and i loved it it was everything i needed it was really good She was a vision. She opened for Kesha, right? This is Kesha's tour. Erica Jane and Chromio opened for Kesha. Emma's right. She did look incredible.

4:38 She gave the gays everything they wanted. But she's an opener, so it was still light outside. Which isn't really the vibe. you need i think for dj pretty mess taking it to the club exactly do you remember the show she did in ibiza that she took kyle to and she was like dancing around at six o 'clock in the morning like i couldn't tell if she was like on one or not like that's what i want from erica jane and it was seven o 'clock in the evening in indianapolis like where and it was like a suburb of indy where like there are noise ordinances it was a whole thing but i loved it well like it's yeah it was like too sober i think that's the best way there it is you sober for dj pretty much that makes sense yeah avery talks a lot about how like when you are like doing anything in front of a crowd you want them to be just that like perfect level of drunk and she was the first opener so like i think that the sobriety of the crowd at that point was probably 100 exactly what you're talking about it was like okay yeah yeah when we saw her at bravo con our first year when she taught us all to pat the puss in the audience it was the place yeah it was a little awkward but i think there was enough people because it was also early in the day but it was early There were enough people who had taken plenty of mimosas before they got in there that the vibe was just

6:09 right. I think Erika Jayne, honestly, like, because we played her at Abercrombie in, like, 2009. Like, I've known of Erika Jayne for 20 years at this point. I think, like, it's a very specific crowd she's speaking to. It's not straight women. It's not whoever's showing up to the catch concert with their girlfriend. It is... travis rodent like that's who it is sure i also will say like she's obviously been performing for a while because she didn't let any like quietness or awkwardness like affect what she was doing at all like yes well and it was the same kind of deal with um because scissor sisters were there last year with kesha and like no one know who that was like no one was yeah like and like again we also played the scissor sisters at Abercrombie in like 2009 so I was like losing my mind I was like Kesha like knows like who the bread and butter is of her crowd so it was good and also I I know I've talked about this on the podcast before Kesha puts on a show and the way that like so it was like Erica Jane gave me like everything I needed for my Abercrombie era chromio gave me everything i needed for my hollister area because we played them at hollister and then like kesha comes out and like i don't i didn't stop crying the entire time i was and then she sang praying and i was a wreck and my sister was like i don't i've never seen you like this it's incredible i had to leave early obviously

7:44 mom things and so i only got to listen to a couple kesha songs and then i heard blow as i'm like in the parking lot waiting for my uber and i was like i forget that kesha's friends with all the beverly you know with kyle yeah yeah she is yeah yeah she's been on the show why isn't she a housewife yet uh she's because i think that she's a little too exciting for that show i'm gonna be honest i know you guys love beverly hills but like can you imagine putting someone like kesha who like is very honest about like she's actually honest about her sexuality unlike some of the people on that show and she has no problem saying hey i'm gonna go to a nudist resort and hey i'm gonna be cool and i i just i simply don't think the show can handle that I'll take it one step more offensive. I think at a certain point of celebrity, you're kind of, dare I say, above. Oh, for sure. Oh, yes. Yes. It's also not her demographic. It just wouldn't work. Right.

9:00 As opposed to Leah or Tracy Tudor. And, like, as a recording artist, too, that's a thing. Because we're about to talk about Martha Stewart. Great segue into Roni. Martha Stewart, though, was always quintessential housewife. That's what her career is. And so that's, like, a whole different thing. Right. You forget that she was, like, on the farm being a housewife. And then, like, this whole thing sprang up. Yeah. Yeah. And then she got her own TV show and all of that. But, like, housewives. aligns with her i think it does and i especially new york because like martha stewart like i mean i know like her whole thing was like connecticut and the hamptons and everything but like martha stewart feels like new york to me like it's like it's the same way like yeah she's upper east side she's got that that old money field you know that yeah here's what you need to do to be proper you know that sort of thing well it's like martha stewart is just like it's perfect for like showing up on new york so i i loved it but how did we all feel about new york i was pleasantly surprised myself okay same just like oh this is great okay i thought the energy was great other than the silly you know carol bradshaw moment at the beginning um that that was just a little too much but i was so happy just the way they kind of brought it all together and the way they introduced us to everyone kind of gave us some set the energy

10:31 right i think for the rest of the show before they kind of brought us back into oh here's aaron being aaron again you know like hbo could just could sue for that honestly honestly we'll get to that i will say so emma and i did an episode with one of the girls from conspiracy reality and then i also did an episode with the girls from shaded reality and they both talked about they didn't love the reboots like and i was the complete opposite like i expected to hate the reboot because i like again we've talked about bethany frankel's my hero i didn't love the season that she went off of it like but it was like there was always like a feeling of like i love the I love Luann Della Sebs like and I love Sonia Morgan being a mess like and I love as much as I hate her I still I can I can handle Ramona in a way that I can't handle like Vicky Gunvalson like because it's just for some reason it felt different to me I right but like even the worst of New York was still good in my mind the I loved the reboot you guys I loved it and then like this episode this premiere didn't disappoint I loved it I couldn't get enough of it it feels like they they mix well together i know it's they haven't really had a lot of a lot of group interactions but it feels like these people not necessarily are friends all of them but it feels like they could be hanging out the same place and it would make sense a believable group yes

12:02 yes well what i will say because like i think the biggest complaint about the reboot was these women don't know each other like i think brin didn't know any of the girls i think jessel knew i may i don't know they didn't know each other was the long and short of it and it feels like they've gotten to know each other so like i think that's why like it felt like it worked so much better i don't know i like i loved it though same i that was very there's a lot to love about it yeah and you can see in the episode that they have like background with each other it's not starting from zero scratch Yeah, I think that's what helps them is that the three from the reboot, or at least definitely with Sai and how she relates to Aaron and to Jessel, there's at least some foundation to build on. Whereas if it was all six people and Carol, six brand new people and Carol, you'd be like, I don't know about this.

13:00 I'm going to be honest. I still don't know how I feel about Carol coming back because I'm like, if you were going to pick anyone, Lord have mercy. Go find Sonia Morgan somewhere in a bar. God almighty. She's busy in Palm Beach doing that E! show with all the other housewives from New York. Did you see that that's coming out literally in three weeks? I thought that was very interesting that they're competing shows now. Well, I mean, they're both NBC Universal properties, so I'm sure they're just trying to... E! is not part of it? It's not anymore. he got sold off to someone else yeah oh i thought they were i think they're just trying to find an old uh housewives retirement home for you know when the a team gets too too sleepy that they're going to summon down to eat but hopefully they can find that for the west coast too yeah well you know every time we see any of the other franchises kids being all like front and center we're like are they trying for a next gen oc are they trying for a next gen you know atlanta all those different versions so think about carol for me like carol is like the most least interesting thing about the show for me and it i didn't know that she was in the first episode sorry what is she's the least interesting The most least interesting thing about the show.

14:22 I didn't care that she wasn't in the first episode. I don't have anything against Carol. It's just I'm more interested in these, you know, the three I know and the three new people. I'm just loving that it's all turning into being about Carol not liking the JFK Jr. show. That's what it seems the whole season's going to be about. Oh, are you not liking Love Story? Also the Epstein files, because like, i i so when i when i saw her in the opening credits literally like right here above my head and she had an apple i was like oh surely to god like she convinced them to cut out the stuff about the epstein files but like they talked about it in like the coming this season so i'm very interested to see where that goes and like to be fair to carol I went back and I dug through the articles about her and where she was in the Epstein files. I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt to say if she never met Jeffrey Epstein, fine. If she truly wasn't that close to Ghislaine, fine. I do think she needs to... be very very honest about that though that's just where i'm at with her yeah yeah i don't think that being in the fc files is like an immediate cut off it's just like how much did you know how did you know these people

15:57 kind of thing right and carol ran in those circles i mean like she i mean she was part of the kennedy family at one point but the fact that like i she it took her so long to say anything and then she gave us a little bit of nothing i'm like babe you gotta do better like it's 2026 we have to do better And that's so weird to me, right? Because if I were somehow connected to someone who did something so horrible, I would be the first to be like, no, no, no, no, no. I knew his girlfriend socially, period, that's it. And, you know, it's weird to just be like, no, I don't know. Me? But all that being said, so we... we get that sex in the city style opening from the woman who was so desperate to be carrie bradshaw her entire run on that show and like i i get what they were trying to do and like you and you guys also like called me out on it where like emma and i talked brutally about the reboot of it like sex in the city was kind of ruined for me after that like so I was just like, okay, we're trying really hard to make this happen.

17:16 Okay. It's also a very old reference, too. And I love Sex and the City, but that is very old. The theatrics on Bravo, to me, this is not going to land well, but they always land a little... Strangely, like it almost gives like low budget. Like they're not good at doing fiction. So I don't know why we're doing these. It felt a little high school drama -y almost. Like, hey guys, what do you say we do a Sex and the City takeoff?

17:57 Yeah. And it's just like a weird vibe. I was just going to say it's like a weird vibe it gives off every time they try to do something that's like a skit. or like do you know what it is to me it's like I wholeheartedly believe that it's like Andy Cohen and then a bunch of gays like between my age and someone in their mid to late 50s like in Rockefeller Center and they're just like okay you guys what do we all love and I think they think that's going to translate but like it's like gay people love camp and they love sex in the city and I think it doesn't translate well to the united states audience all that well that that's kind of where i believe it lands i can see that yeah but um also we get like the opening clips of everyone like running around and i always forget how hot aaron's husband is and it always catches me off guard because i'm like oh hey hello i was just so happy to call him abe the babe like it instantly came back oh right abe the babe and he's hot and apparently he's not shy about sending dick pics for aaron to show everyone like if you remember back to that one vacation so i remember that disrespecting your husband aaron who's a lot of about that god we start with daisy who is martha stewart's makeup artist and it immediately jumps to martha

19:27 stewart getting out of the car and going into the apartment and i was like ah i love this because like well i well i was excited about that and everything i'm like yeah it did feel really pandery to be like hey everyone martha stewart pander to me all you want 100 % I was going to say the same thing. It definitely is pandering to be like, please, you'll be interested this time. And I feel bad for her if her entire, like even she was on Watch What Happens Live after the premiere and he kept asking her questions about Martha Stewart. I really hope her entire season isn't just Martha -centric because I feel really bad for her as a housewife if that's the case.

20:09 Yeah, because I feel like there's more to Daisy. than just being connected to Martha Stewart. And so that's like an icebreaker, but then it's like, what else you got going on? And like, she has, you know, a lot going on with her. And you know, this is a little bitchy of me to say, but like, it's not like she's Martha Stewart's, you know, makeup artist from the height of Martha Stewart's career, you know, or has she been the whole time, you know? The whole time. The whole time. Yeah, but Martha Stewart has a lot going on. She's like on the cover of like Sports Illustrated. I will say Martha Stewart has looked amazing the past few years. She's great at her job. She's just blessed with genetics as well. Oh yeah, she's been stunning since the second she put herself on camera. She used to be a model too, right? That's how she got started. The thing that will never ever lose its shine for me with Martha Stewart is when she just... puts herself in ordinary situations because we're so used to seeing her be like the queen of proper uh you know i i used to remember when i was college age watching her iron sheets like this is how you properly iron a blanket and it's like thanks martha i need to know that so see her just showing up at daisy's house making fun of the store -bought pie painting a tiny new york kitchen you're just kind of like this is how i want to see martha stewart oh i couldn't get enough of that when she made direct eye contact with the camera she goes there's so much work to do and i was like yes i was like i imagine like it's it's probably

21:41 very intimidating to have martha stewart of all people walk into your apartment and like you you're doing the thing but like i i you could drag me within an inch of my life and she's the only person like i'd be like you know what she's right side note on that I was going to say, the apartment, and this isn't a dig, but Daisy's apartment looked very normal. We're so used to everyone living in these real estate porn houses. I was like, oh, that's just a basic stove. It's refreshing, I think, especially after Rhode Island, where everyone was in a McMansion. I think it is so refreshing to see. like a normal house and it makes sense for new york i think because it's so such an expensive place like even if you make a lot of money that is still what it looks like right yeah this is also a weird deep cut did you guys ever watch i think it was on like the fine living network like a million years ago Martha Stewart's daughter and her best friend would just sit there and watch old clips of the Martha Stewart show and just drag her within an inch of her life. And Alexis Stewart would be like, my mom never did that. I loved that show. I would watch that all the time. That was great. I can't remember her friend's name. I know what you're talking about. I know I've sent you clips of it. What was that show called? So the friend was a lawyer who had a show on SiriusXM.

23:14 don't remember that name um lauren maybe i could be wrong but what was the name of that whatever martha oh yes I'm surprised that we got to find some episodes of that. We've been finding really weird things on Amazon's live channels in the last few months. We're like, why is this being shown 24 hours a day? But like old episodes of Four Weddings, which we loved when we were four years old. I loved Four Weddings. Say yes to the dress. The other thing, there's someone on TikTok who does Where Are They Nows about Four Weddings episodes. And it is... It's addicting. So we'll watch an episode and be like, oh, let's find it. And we'll find them. Oh, they're not together. Oh, darn. Or they died. Well, yeah.

23:59 I love predicting the ones that got divorced. I'm like, oh, you had a taco bar at your wedding? Divorce. I love this. Absolutely. So how do we feel about Sai and her friendship with Jessel? I forgot how much they hated each other. So when they did the flashbacks, I'm like, oh, that's right. You hated her. You were like, got into that fight first season and you talked shit about Puppet. And I'm cool with them like being friends. I mean, if it lasts, it lasts. But like, I'm like, okay, let's do. I was shocked by it. Like, I truly thought it was going to be one of those things where it's like, we're going to call a truce at some point. I never thought like they would become close. And like, I... i'll be honest like i like their friendship like it feels comfortable to me and i also i'm gonna be really honest i did not like psy her first season on the show i thought she was insufferable i thought that whole thing about that well i'm hungry like i'm hungry like that whole like that that was exhausting to me she's grown on me so much i love psy i think she's so hot i think that like and i think that like her being honest right now is probably what made her grow on me but like i'm a big fan i i like her i always liked her she's always my favorite so um i like yeah yeah while the girls from the original reboot yeah not even oh the the one that worked for j crew what was

25:31 her name oh bren no no no no no um yeah kind of a nothing burger to me like this will like oh it's the gentle lions and i'm like and People outside of New York don't know who Jen Wyatt is. I loved her. I couldn't get enough of her. Her just sitting there being fabulous. I love someone who's quietly shady, and I thought she did that very well. I loved her. I liked her a lot, but I tend to be with Jeff on this. Sai was always wonderful because she was just snarky. Like, she was, like, just the right amount of bitey and snarky and, like, I'm not going to put up with your shit. She was mean. Sure. And compared to her, I think the editing did her a little bit dirty that first season. I will give her that, but here we are. Yeah. What I think is great about the Cy Jessel thing is that Cy taking accountability for being like, I was an asshole to you. And I was projecting. Because they always talk about housewives. projecting and everyone denies it but the fact that she's like i was talking about your marriage because my marriage was in a place is just like groundbreaking oh a thousand percent like i was so impressed with that and i was like oh you you have grown up and i think that's very cool Yeah, and I think that's kind of what happened to them is during the downtime, without the pressure of having to film and be on camera, they probably did come

27:03 together and be like, you're actually pretty cool. Like when we're not on camera and we're not surrounded by the insanity that is the rest of the ladies, I can deal with you better. And so I think they probably found common ground there. And we're also for side to be like, I was like totally lying the entire time and trying to make everything seem like it was perfect. When things weren't with David, they weren't perfect because they seem. totally fine on camera and he got these two great kids and like he just seemed cool and whatever and the fact that she was like just unhappy for so long and well but let's not forget she still has the opportunity to paint david however she wants because she has the platform to do so so you know i mean but yeah we're let's believe women you're right i'm sorry No, but I so I feel like the truth is kind of somewhere in the middle because I do feel like she was 100 percent lying to herself.

27:52 So she was saying like, oh, things are good. Things are good. But like when she like woke up one morning and she's like, I hate you. Like, I feel like that that feeling comes on fast and quick and it sucks. And like, also, I didn't put this in my notes, but like I see them as two people that got together and like. I might have to cut this because this is going to be mean. He looks like the kind of guy that was much hotter when he was younger. Oh. I could see that. Here we are today. He looked like a Wahlberg. Yes. Yeah. Joe Biden. Yeah. Just that pale, like you lived in Boston kind of. Oh, Joe Biden was hot when he was younger. Yeah. Yeah.

28:36 I can see it, especially with this guy, too. He kind of has that same similar, like, agent -ness now. But, yeah, you don't need to cut that out. That's perfectly valid to say about someone. I used to be hotter when I was younger, and I'm waiting for Jeff to leave me at any minute now. Oh, I still am waiting to get hot. But, um, it's like... He looks like the kind of guy, like Chase on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, they look like they would have been best friends if they were the same age. And I feel like she's like, oh, I'm not into this anymore a little bit. I want her to be into women, though. I want her to be into women. And it's probably more than that, obviously. She didn't just divorce because he got ugly. But I think when you start growing apart from someone, Like, it's so much easier to be like, oh. Like, if they're hot, it's much easier to keep them around, yes. I also forgot the whole thing that, like, she would say that he retired to take care of the kids, but really he just didn't have a job. I was like, oh, okay.

29:47 That seems a little fuzzy because there's no way, in my mind, as I'm hearing her say that, there's no way they didn't talk about it. like privately at home like when she didn't have a job did they ever sit down to be like that's okay we should have someone home with the kids anyway because that's a that's a different context than what she said you know i will bet you anything that he got he because i feel like i remember he worked in tech i feel like he either got the company shut down or it got bought out by like it's what every it's the story of every tech company and they gave him a severance package so they could say oh i retired and like i'm just gonna run on this for a little bit and i think living that housewife's lifestyle. Cause like all of these housewives will talk about it. It is expensive to be a housewife. And I think they probably ran out of the severance package a little bit quicker than they planned to. So I think that's where like the financial, like stress started coming from. And then I think like, once you start peeling back a lot of those layers, I think that's where it starts to fall apart very quickly because it's like, Oh, I don't even like you that much. So a stress intention. And it's like, They're kind of old and ugly anyway.

31:06 Like, the stress eats away at the marriage. Say it again, Jeff? The stress, like, eats away at the marriage. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And then Jessel also talked a little bit about how Aaron was incredible and super supportive when, because they lost their dads within a couple of months of each other, and then Aaron flipped super quick at the Ultimate Girls Party, or Ultimate Girls Trip Party at Dorinda's house. and I feel like I remember hearing about this and like, I cannot wait to watch that episode of ultimate girls trip because I feel like we've gotten so many stories and I cannot wait to see it all go down. But like, this is like, I'll get to this a little bit later, but like, I go super back and forth about Aaron, like about like really, really loving her being like, I feel like it's hard to love you. And this is why right here. Agreed. Yeah.

32:02 Like I think last year, Last season, I would have been like, oh, love Aaron. She's great. But then it's like, you really do see she starts so much shit. And then it was like, what? Oh, my gosh. Should I start this shit? No. Oh, I have a lot of thoughts about the confrontation later. We'll get to that. So hold on to that, Jess. Yeah. So I totally believe Jess' side of things that, like, everything seemed cool until it wasn't. Yes, I wholeheartedly believe that. She was blindsided by Aaron. Yeah. From where I'm sitting as someone who's like new to Roni, she did strike me as the type, almost like a Robin, shall I say, where she kind of just is saying what's on her mind and is not thinking about the ramifications. she'll bring up a gripe and not be like oh but i'm friends with her i shouldn't say that like she just doesn't have that filter on her but again i've literally seen one episode of her you're not wrong somewhere between that and like the person that people make giselle out to be where it's like she's nasty and she's nasty for no reason like it's somewhere it exists somewhere between there yes i agree but giselle owns her nastiness and her messiness and aaron just like she'll trying to still be the protagonist yeah and that's what i think is ultimately going to be my issue with aaron is that especially after the confrontation later where she's like she's admitting to it

33:33 but not taking any accountability to it and it's like that's literally what i wrote in my notes yes yeah and it just it's i i'm finding that's the common thread through every housewife argument that i just really i it just it's so unnerving and disturbing to me that like wait a minute how are you admitting to it but also having taking no accountability that you had anything to do with it like yeah i said those things but that's not my fault it's like what how do you do that mental gymnastics behind your back but that doesn't mean you need to feel that way right i feel how i feel but you should not feel that way right and who told you that who told you that i only told two people about that oh my god we'll get to it anyway um so we meet hayley as she's rollerblading down the street and this gave very much kelly ben simone jogging in the middle of the street vibes uh yeah i think about that scene constantly um aaron heads over to hayley's house and then hayley explains that she always has two apartments because she gets tired of her husband and i like hayley i like hayley for that i like hayley because her refrigerator looks exactly like my refrigerator i like hayley because she has that thing that my dad has where she wants her house to look clean and unlived in i love it yes all of that and then we also get a clip of haley's mom dancing

35:06 and like i put this in my notes but like it is so bizarre to me when people's parents have hobbies because like my family simply does not do that and i'm like oh like other people are active that is so strange like like that's weird but it's like they threw in like a random tiktok video yeah for mom dancing Yeah, my family's hobbies are, I think, watching TV and smoking weed, pretty much. So that's what they do for fun. Smoking cigarettes and going to church is my family's hobby. Yeah. Also, Hayley is the woman that dated John from John and Kate Plus 8. And, like, I did not clock that until she literally said it in the episode. And then we also find out that she dates women and she says daughters the same way Teresa Giudice does. So.

35:55 Yeah. I miss the daughters. Oh. How did you miss the daughters? She said it like six times. Yeah. When I date women with daughters. But she's the one who's in the Lavender marriage, though, right? Yes. That's her. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, no wonder she has her pied -à -terre, you know. But no, I'm going to be a big fan of Hayley. I think Hayley is like just messy enough without being like too much of a wreck of a human being that I'm like, I like this lady. I like her too, but I feel like she's going to be a little too quirky and like blame a lot of shit on her quirkiness and just be like, oh, you know, just how I am.

36:39 And I'm just like, I don't think she will at all. I think she's just like unaware that she's so weird. yeah i agree and like i think if she's gonna blame anything on anything it's the amount of weed she smokes because like she did get into that a little bit later and i was like oh i get it i see it but that was a nice that was a nice uh reveal for me where where she's later on like i was just so high she could have been saying anything i had no idea what she was talking about and it's like oh very interesting you could have a lot of these women get very weird about that and i'm like who cares babe like Yeah. Gummy. Call it a day. How loud is that? I didn't want to say anything. I mean, we can hear it, but every so often it just sounds like you have a bird. And I'm like, that's fine. It's a cockatoo.

37:31 Yeah, you got a cockatoo. We've got about five. You just muted yourself. Oh, you're giving him some talking to. Yeah, I probably got about. Five minutes before I have to go calm that down. We'll see. I just... The next two scenes are completely irrelevant. We go to Jessel's house where she's getting ready for the Lunar New Year. I wrote in my notes, I'm kind of into Povit, but I can't tell if I am or not for sure. His undercut's a bit too harsh. I wish he didn't have such a tight fade there. It was really bothering me. That's fair. Then we get a flashback to Jessel having dinner with her parents, like, because she's, like, kind of reliving some of the stuff with her dad. And her dad, like, and I don't say this about a lot of dads, because, like, I'm very, like, I get weird about, like, parent stuff a lot of the time. I, her dad seemed like a genuine sweetheart. Like, I feel like he was a really good guy. And, like, I feel bad that, like, she lost him. And I honestly felt the same way about Aaron's dad, because, like, we met him last season on the show. And I'm like. god that sucks that they lost them so close together and that like that had to be really hard for them yeah yeah the one thing that we talked about was that um we never saw jessel's dad like they clearly filmed with him in the previous seasons but they never used any of the footage so i thought that was interesting i feel like i remember that dinner because i remember the mom's hair i don't

39:02 remember a ton with the dad but like i i feel like i know we met him but we you're right i don't think we got that much of him if we got anything I remember, like, she went to lunch with her mom and revealed that they had had the kids through IVF. Because she didn't know. Mom didn't know. Yes, yes, yes, yes. She thought she was going to be weird about that, I think. And she was like, whatever. Well, not whatever, but she was like, you know, the improv is great. Jessel has a lot of opinions about her IVF journey. So then Cy goes shopping at the RealReal, and... I couldn't tell if this is like an ad placement on the show or if this was like a real shopping trip. But like, I'm jealous of people that can thrift because like I, I want to be that person that like goes and finds cool things at a thrift store. I feel like I do not have A, the patience or B, like. like it needs to be like in neat piles like it is at the buckle like i can't i can't go into a thrift store because it like stresses me out but i wish i was that person um i love that daisy shows up and fully just like starts changing like in the middle of the store i thought that was so kind um there's no boys here cut to like two boys yeah and then size like are you okay yeah i love i love it so much and I'm going to be honest. I feel like the whole thing where she took the jacket up to the register and the guy was like, I scanned this and someone bought it online. That had to

40:36 have been staged. I don't buy that that happened in real life. I'm sorry. Actually, that kind of supports your idea that this might have been an ad placement because they'd be like, hey, you might come into our store and find something you like, only to find out someone already bought it online. Which, by the way, you can do that. Here's our website. I also feel like they were like, with the prices, it was like, it's $225. It's nothing. You can do that. And I'm like, okay. But here we are. So Jessel shows up to her party. I love the way the party went. I loved everything about the party. This was a really good, like, it wasn't like forced drama. It wasn't.

41:24 It didn't feel like it was like I'm having a party just for the sake of having a premiere party, which it absolutely was because no one has a party for Lunar New Year. But like it felt like she actually put some thought into it. We meet Erica, who's married to a tech billionaire, and she's gorgeous. And I cannot wait to see more of her because like they have an island like. Yes, we go to the island. yeah carol's like oh no an island and i only get in trouble when i go on islands that was good that was very good i don't know how i don't know why everyone was having such a big deal with the fact that she was renting that dress like i mean i know she's got money i know but like still like you don't want to like I don't know the whole idea that you buy something wear it once and never wear it again especially if you know you're that person who's only going to wear something once I think that just makes sense I like that she rented it I think that like I put in my notes I was like oh she's relatable and she's one of us like kind of jokingly but I was like I like that she still rents stuff like because I have no idea what her background is I have no idea if she comes for money or not but like I I think that's cool because it's like, oh, you don't have to go out and buy everything. You can do this. I love it. She kind of was giving me Ashley vibes from Rhode Island. I put in my notes that

42:56 she reminds me of someone and I couldn't figure it out. That's 100 % who it was. Yes, you're right. I was going to say Anne Hathaway, but I could see that too. Yeah, just the eyes. I'm curious to know more about her because she basically like inserted in this episode so i hope that you know next episode we get more of like her backstory like what'd you do before this because i she they brought up that uh she was a wwe wrestler oh when they were on they were on the today show why and the whole cast was on the today show and they're like oh erica you were a wwe wrestler what's worse this or housewives and yeah i was like oh she is yeah so she's like I think there's going to be depth to her then, because I was like, oh, I thought being a billionaire's wife might have been her whole personality, but that's interesting. Okay. I don't think she was born rich. I'm going to go on that on a limb and say I don't think that she came from money. That also means that she knows how to create drama as well. She's good at manufacturing false drama.

44:03 Oh, a thousand percent. But I could also tell where, because she went up to Aaron at one point, and she's like, what's going on with you and Jessal like she has no problem being in the middle of that and I like that so well that's what you get when you get when you have the people who are richer than God they're just like I have I can do whatever I want because if this doesn't work out whatever I will just move on to the next thing so whoops I alienated my entire cast I mean, Jackie Goldschneider did it, and we found out she has millions, so why not? Jackie Goldschneider, that's a deep cut. I think about her a lot. I like her. I listen to a podcast where they were talking about her run on New Jersey, and I was like, I forgot that I liked her a little bit.

44:50 I loved her her first couple seasons, when she would go up against Teresa and had no qualms about it. But I think when she flipped to be like, now I want to be Teresa's friend and screw Margaret, I was like, oh no, honey. no i think constantly about the fight she got into with dolores and she's like i'm not worried about what you think dolores and then dolores goes okay jackie constantly like it is like crack to me that is my vote okay jackie is my vocal stem like i'm so serious we do that we all feel like mrs marion webster oh god poor jackie um so daisy and eugene show up to the party and eugene ended up being hotter than like his pictures from like when they were talking about and made him look like i was like oh he's handsome like i'm into him very much so and like she dogged it out what she called him boring in her confessional yeah i was like he seems lovely i'll be boring i'll finish his margarita i don't care keep some juice in the kids room oh I'm like is that my camera is there something on my teeth I think it's like something on your camera I saw it earlier I thought it was like my screen yeah okay I hate this I'm gonna have so much editing to do later

46:21 so hayley and her date show up and i like that like she talked about being married and she's still bringing women to functions i'm like oh she's messy and i like it i'm i'm so into this um she's not hiding anything it's like hi here's my date who's a girl by the way i date girls like she like first seen you know is talking about that so other housewives would have like waited like four seasons before we got to see you guys i'm dating women you know yeah and like yeah and i also just like the way the other women are responding to it with like okay just like they're caught off guard you can tell they're caught off guard but they're just like i what am i gonna do with that like fine that's who you are you know i it's very refreshing like that's just hayley yeah yeah but like that's refreshing and then also like this is completely off topic but like In Atlanta, like, towards the end of the season where they got into, like, yeah, I dated women. And, oh, yeah, my last relationship was with a woman. And, like, was it Kay Michelle?

47:28 Was, like, I thought I was going to marry a woman. And I'm, like, this is cool. Like, this is really cool that they're, like, so open and chill about this. Like, I like that. Because, like, I think we're, like, all so, like, conditioned to, like, remember an era of housewives. It's, like. No, no, no, there are no problems in my marriage. No, my husband never cheated on me. No, no, like, what there are court records of never happened. Like, I like this, like, honesty and, like, refreshingness. Like, I like it. Well, not only that, they would always weaponize homosexuality, especially on Atlanta. So the fact that they're kind of like now, you know, embracing it, even if it's just the lady pool, you know, or the lady pond, but, you know, still, it's still refreshing, you know?

48:17 Yeah, in this day and age, you can't just have that antiquated idea of homosexuality. It's so funny to see, like, Portia's arc of, like, you know, like, oh, I would never do those things. And now it's like, I'm dating a woman, you know? Well, it's like, that, Portia's arc is deeply interesting to me because it's like, there was one point, and, like, I don't, I can forgive her for this because, like, she has been very honest about like her journey, but like, I mean, there's like a sermon where she's out there like screaming about like lesbians. And I'm like, if that's how you feel, that sucks. But like, and now she's like fully with sway and I'm like, okay, like we've come full circle. And like, I, I, I appreciate that. Cause like, here's the thing. I do think there's room for everyone to make mistakes. And I think there's, it's like, you can, you can say stuff and it's like your, your opinions and views can evolve. i i like that porsche like has come so far number one or number two it's like she's like hey yeah you're look at me now like i think that's really cool yeah someone on reddit actually mentioned that whole thing about when she was a pastor and like spoke out against homosexuality and like they were saying like that should have been brought up maybe on this past reunion of like it's so great you're where you've come from but do you ever think about that stuff about you know before when you were not so cool with the gays and weren't

49:48 very um correct in your thinking i don't i don't know that i need that like honestly because i'm like clearly she's with a woman now like clearly she's not wearing long nails so we like We all know exactly what that was stemming from. As gay people, we can identify that. We get it. I don't know that I need that. Okay, you're right. I think I'm a little better from that last season. Yeah, but I won't go to that. We're in Roni. I think there is room for your point. And I also think like I'm much more like I'm much more willing to forgive like because here's the thing. A lot of the women on Rhode Island are going to have a lot to answer for next season. So I think like I'm the kind of person it's like, yeah, it sucks that like you said some of that stuff and it sucks that you retweeted some of that stuff and it sucks that like. it sucks that like you had viewpoints that like didn't align with like who i believed you were but if you can apologize for that you can like do better i can be okay with it like and i don't i don't expect that of anyone else that's fully a me thing but like i also i think i'm much more forgiving in that regard than like than i think i should be sometimes i don't know but like so there's room for your viewpoint too no i think you're at the better point of view because it's like let's just move on because that's what this show is about of conflict and resolution so you did wrong you admit to it apologize and then we move forward

51:19 so there's no need to like go back to like the olden days of the 2000s when you were like acting a fool on the internet sure and to be fair like with Rhode Island like I know we're getting off topic here but like I think that's a lot more fresh because like that stuff is a lot more recent and it's like I was like oh I like you couldn't tell me that Joe Ellen wasn't like God's gift to gay men like that that does stay a little bit so there's that yes but here we are um Where were we? Oh, and then Psy rolls up in her jacket and, like, she looked cut. Like, that jacket that was, like, hanging off the shoulders. I was like, I love this. I love it. I love it.

52:04 I love it. I love the whole... Oh, go ahead. Sorry. No, no, no. You go. No, no, no. You go. No, no. You go. I was going to say, I didn't... Sorry to jump to the Haley, Psy... jessel interaction but i just love the whole like um of hayley putting her foot in her mouth oh yeah yeah well we're not there was it hayley that brought up the the ivf thing or was it that was hayley oh yeah when she's like oh you're going through this ivf journey and and just like who'd you hear that from oh well i i guess it was erin i didn't ask questions that struck me as they really just wanted to have a problem with aaron and so everyone was just like why were you saying stuff about me because i feel like aaron was 100 correct jessel would tell everyone about her ivf journey and i get that it's her story to tell and i agree with that but at the same time i don't think that anything that aaron was telling haley was at all out of pocket i feel like that was all completely normal things that you and i would if we were updating each other about so -and -so and such -and -such. We'd be like, oh, yeah, and then she did IVF and da -da -da -da -da.

53:19 We would have gotten there eventually. But that's you and I, not this new girl who, like, came onto the scene where Aaron was telling everyone else's tales. That was not her story to tell. One sigh and two with Jessel. I don't know. Even if Travis showed up at our house tomorrow, I'd probably tell him some shit about people that I probably shouldn't, but I don't think they would freak the fuck out about it. Yeah. Also, like... if my friends know me they know that i'm going to tell them tell their secrets to people that don't know them they're they're aware of that i'm with scott on this one and i'm going to tell you why it very specifically feels like when they in the opening scene where we had psy and jessel talking to each other and jessel said something to sigh that was like well that's your story to tell that's no one else's story to tell it felt like they were planting that to bring this very specific thing up later i wholeheartedly believe scott's right about this when jessel says i'm a vault yes yes yes yes yes and i think that like they were planning that because they knew they were going to bring up the thing about the um the ultimate girls trip party and I think like this was just icing on the cake where it's like oh no one else knew I had problems in my marriage no one else knew I had IVF and like that's your fault and it's like you're a snake like whatever I think Scott's right that look on Jessel's face like oh you don't talk to other

54:50 people about me oh you don't do you do you do you and she just was really like leaning into that like let's talk about it is there any housewives drama if they don't go talking shit about each other right true story i don't agree with you like and this is where i will say like i have no problem in the world with them bringing up things that they actually have problems with the like the jumping a little bit further and saying i have a problem with you spilling x y and z I'm like, I don't need you to make up the drama because I'm going to tell you right now, Cy and Aaron, those two very specifically, I know we're going to have no issues with them bringing up problems. And I know we're going to have no issues with them creating and finding problems. We don't have to make it up. It's okay.

55:41 As long as Aaron doesn't try to pull any pranks this season, I'm going to be 1 ,000 % okay. I forgot about that goddamn spider. We're not even that, but the whole stupid thing about so -and -so sleeping. About Rebecca being pregnant. Yeah, Rebecca being pregnant with another man's child. Oh, I fully blocked that out. I completely blocked that out. We've all blocked out a lot of things about past Roni. I feel like I remember sitting in, when Emma and I shared an office, I very vividly remember watching that scene and being like, what are we doing? Like, I was so mad at that. like i was like your big bill yes they built like the whole mid -season trailer around that event yes and gossiping about like her like oh she had an affair and now she's pregnant and it's like oh my gosh and it was all the prank like who on production saw that and was like this is a good idea yeah so i wanted to okay that carol bradshaw god it was the same people yes um So... Emma, is your bird okay? Everything's good with the bird? Yes, the bird is asleep in its cage. Perfect. Oh, thank God. Nice. I hope that's literally where you keep your bird. A crib is rather cage -like if you think about it. Honestly. so jessel gives that gets up and

57:15 she gives her speech and i what i will say is that i don't think she planned to be this like angry at aaron in the moment and like she got out there and i think she realized how annoyed she was and that like his speech got super awkward they don't i genuinely do not think that jessel is like an awkward person in general so i'm like oh baby take a public speaking class yeah um But yeah, that like, because she threw a couple of digs at Aaron and that got kind of awkward. And then she walks up to Aaron. And here's, I will say this about this conflict. On one hand, I genuinely appreciate that Aaron was like, okay, what's the problem? Like, let's come on, like, let's keep it moving. But then immediately turns around and she's like, well, I only killed two people. And it's exactly what Scott was talking about earlier, where it's like, you can't take accountability. Like, you know, you said it, you know, you said it too. Chanel Ion. Chanel Ion, yes. Also, I'm obsessed with Chanel Ion.

58:17 Have you guys seen that TikTok of her yelling at the Waymo? No. It is the best thing. She's wasted in West Hollywood, and she's like, do you trust this robot man to take you home? I will send it to you guys later. It is crack to me. She has another one we saw where she's talking about how everything in America gets you salmonella. Yes. um but like so jessel and aaron are going back and forth let me cut to daisy telling erica i don't care what you say about me you can say the most personal nasty thing about me but as long as you don't say i'm fat because that's mean and i was like i cannot get enough of this woman like just please don't ever stop talking and erica fully being like yeah yeah i feel that yeah you're right i'll never say that about you And then we cut to Jessel getting fed up with Aaron. And then she ends up like putting her out. And I, this is the part where I started to feel really bad for Aaron. Cause like at one point Jessel goes up to the owner of the place and she's like, can you put her out? And then like, he goes up and like, he, he says, Hey, I'm so sorry, Aaron, you have to go. And, like, this party, it was a smaller venue, and there weren't a ton of people there. So, you know, everyone was watching, knowing exactly what was going on. Of course. It had to be mortifying.

59:41 Like, that had to suck. Well, I just like that Aaron was like, oh, okay, yeah, you're kicking me. Fine. All right. I'm leaving. Where's my husband? This is so stupid. And Abe was off somewhere being hot. And, like, so she gets all the way over to the stairs, and she's like, come on, come on. And then Jess was talking about her, like, dumb jacket. yes okay so here's the thing i liked everything about jessel in this episode until that very last bit where she's like ding dong the bitch is gone i was like that was too much stop you liked her weird little confessional look with the fringe and the bad wig with the bangs Yeah, that was a bit much. The Vicky Bangs.

1:00:23 I don't consider confessional looks to be part of what I like and dislike about housewives. That's a completely separate thing. We'll leave it alone. Because I feel like I also put somewhere else in my notes. I couldn't tell if I loved or hated Aaron's confessional look. The confessional look in general. Not even just New York. Why are we being avant -garde to sit down? I've thought this for years and I'm glad we're bringing it up. What are we doing with those? We're doing Erika Jayne because she started it. There's before Erika Jayne and there's after Erika Jayne. That sits well in my heart. It's her, it's Bronwyn, Newport, it's them. like chanel ion can get away with it uh uba could get away with it but like the rest of them i'm like babe just like it's it's either that or it's kelly and her plain white t -shirt i think about that a lot too where i'm like babe you're not beating the allegations of being poor yeah it's always just giving either i'm going to prom or high fashion avant -garde couture. And it's like, I'm so confused by your headpiece. You're talking about the tea that

1:01:56 went on with your friends. Well, so it's too editorial sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, it's that element. And it's like, I feel like, like Erika Jayne, we're going to remove completely from this. And the same thing with Bronwyn, because I think they have like whole teams putting together confessional looks. There are some, like Karen Huger is a perfect example where she's like, this is going to look so cunt. And she pulls it out. She does the whole thing. And I don't think they think to themselves, oh, this doesn't translate well on camera the way it does on a red carpet. Potomac is the big sinner for me because it's Karen. It's Ashley. It's, what was her? Wendy. Wendy.

1:02:44 All of them. What are they doing? They're doing bad. Sorry. Go ahead. I was just going to say, but then you go to Rhode Island and they all look like they're going to prom all the time. And I'm like, why can't we just be fashion casual? I think, like, we have come so far with Housewives where we expect so much from, like, some of the, like, reunion looks. Because I don't know if you guys remember the very first Atlanta reunion where NeNe was literally in jeans in that reunion.

1:03:24 I think about that a lot. Like, where they were all, like, on a soundstage. And it's Sharae in leggings. It's NeNe in jeans. And it's Andy Cohen, like, with his weird, like, curly hair back when it was still curly. it's like we've come so far and it's like I think it's like they keep needing to raise the bar and I'm like babe I don't think you know where the bar is sometimes we've lost the bar where's the bar why is your shoulder up to here and the other one's down here and do you know what for some reason the reunion looks typically for me don't make me gag As much as the confessionals, like, I don't know what the difference is, but for me, I'm like, girl, we're only seeing you from here up. Yeah. Well, there's a disconnect. You mentioned that because they've talked about like how they'll show up like in the dress and then sweatpants on the bottom. Like they've like, cause they've shown it before. And I'm like, yeah, I don't know.

1:04:31 I, but yeah, it's. some of it's embarrassing but but yeah it was bad in this in this too but potomac's definitely the worst i'm just using the opportunity to talk about it um but yeah so that was the end of it and then we get the season preview and i feel like roni is back like this is gonna and like i feel like they're making up for the sins of their west coast counterparts because i have to tell you oh yeah i This last episode of Orange County with Vicky freaking out was actually something to behold. It was actually entertaining. It was the first thing they've done all season. Episode 10 got good.

1:05:19 The entire fight revolved around, I haven't even watched it yet, but I've seen it on TikTok, where the entire fight revolved around talking about the boyfriend not wanting to be on the show. her not sharing things. It's just Vicky being entitled to like, oh, I'm not going to talk about that. And it's like, lady, you're on a show where you're literally being paid to talk about that. And it's just the disconnect of she wants to be treated special, but when other people ask for the same treatment, she refuses to do it. It's like, just the entitlement just blows my goddamn mind. Scott, let's play the quiet game. Okay, let's play the quiet game. i would i'm telling you right now if i were carmella or emily or whoever i don't i have no idea who she said it to i would have swung on vicky i'm not kidding like that for me is a trigger when it's like you're i don't need to talk anymore i think that is the most disgusting thing someone can say oh i would have been so mean i would have been like oh you're gonna act like my mom do you really want to highlight the age disparity yes and it's like I am so sick and tired of Vicky talking about how she started this franchise and how she's the OG of the OC. And I'm like, do you understand that everyone on TikTok, on Instagram, that has a podcast, like any Bravo crew, everyone hates you. And I am so sick and tired of you.

1:06:47 Like, I'm telling you, and like the Bravo bros, I know that they have a tendency to like dog on Beverly Hills and Orange County. But I'm like, I have never heard people talk about Vicky. like outside of the brav bros this way but i'm like everyone agrees you are trash you are white trash and everyone hates you i think she yeah i think she should have stayed away to maintain that legacy of like the og the oc because to see her in action on both girls trip and oc it's like any sort of like love you might have had her or or Good will just goes out the window. Yeah.

1:07:29 Yeah. Yeah. That producer friend you like to follow on Twitter, Jeff, he talks about how basically filming with Vicky and working with her, even during, he said they worked together when she was just the, made those cameos like in season 17. Yes. He was saying that she's just one walking vocal stem. She's just like, the whole time. Don't do that. Don't say that. I started the show. I started the show. OJOC. Yeah. She's soundbite. People at restaurants talk about how, or like people talk about like they, they saw her at a restaurant and. that's all she will talk about to like random people like that do not like don't care it's like well i started this show and they're like okay what what do you want off the menu like she's upset like that's her entire personality and it's the same way with shannon where d also did you hear this story and like kelly dodd of all people i'm so shocked that like i align with her on this but kelly dodd was talking about how shannon bedore and uh andy cohen went out to dinner somewhere and like she accosted the wait staff i think at the quiet woman for not comping her meal yeah yeah it was recently yeah can you imagine like being that entitled like to say i i've been to this restaurant and i've screamed it uh kelly dot across this table i deserve a free meal here like the cognitive dissonance for me is bizarre it's like she is too quiet woman as vicky as is too on delays like i i made

1:09:01 you no we were perfectly fine without you thanks anyway the audacity of these white women who would have thought and it's like i have to be honest i can be so forgiving of a lot of things with like white women on the real housewives but like orange county they they just haven't come in sometimes i gotta tell you yeah honestly but all that being said um i have i'm gonna have so much to cut out of this episode but look um i asked the same thing on every premiere that we've done together who would you want to be friends with on this cast and i i honestly would have a hard time choosing for this one so i want to hear what everyone else thinks sorry go ahead there you go I was going to say there's one that reminds me of me in several ways. Can you guess which one I'm referring to? Haley. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait until Kenny finds out that you're dating a woman.

1:10:09 No. Where's your pita tear? Guys, are you late to going over to your other house tonight? Is that where you need to go? It's actually none of your business. No, I'm going to hers. No, but pretty much like five minutes into her introduction, I was like, oh, she's me. I would choose Psy. I know it's a little predictable and boring, but Psy. I think I'd want to hang out with Psy. I'd say the same, Psy. I think I'd want to be friends with Erica. Just from the little bit we got with her, I think she seems fun. Fun and cool. Yes. I could see Daisy too. Daisy, yes.

1:11:04 Yeah. She seems like you would never run out of things to talk about. You know what I mean? You also have the opportunity to meet Martha Stewart. I take it back. I want to be friends with Daisy, actually. Farewell, friend. I'm an opportunist. What do you want? Also, do you know what else I was just thinking about? And this is completely separate from New York. Our premieres have come full circle because Salt Lake City was the first one we ever did together. And I can't wait to do it with you guys again. Was that the first one? Yeah, that was our first one. Oh. I think I was still pregnant for that.

1:11:52 You were absolutely still pregnant. It was, like, one of the very early, early episodes we did. We were still audio only. I was, like, recording in the, like, in the, like, study rooms at IU Indy. Oh, right. I, like, I think it's really cool to see, like, how far, and I'm, like, or how far we've come in, like, production quality, one, but two. i love that we've done every premiere with you guys i think that this is like my favorite tradition on the podcast no it's a fun one for sure it actually is so like the one thing that's weird for us to get used to is like being like so many voices but i like that we finally can't found a way to get over it with like no no you go no no no you go like it's just gonna have to be a thing these things are hard to do over you know with multiple you know people talking but you can sort it all out later you're a master editor it's i've gotten so good at it so i know i this has been very cool and i love this um but all that being said from san francisco to indy to the upper east side of manhattan to bushwick where i just moved out of we love you thank you for listening thank you for being here and we'll see you next time till next time bye where's my goddamn mouse there we go