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Sept. 14, 2026

reality roundup: A New York State of Mind with Husbands Watching Housewives (RHONY Season 16 Premiere)

reality roundup: A New York State of Mind with Husbands Watching Housewives (RHONY Season 16 Premiere)
reality roundup: A New York State of Mind with Husbands Watching Housewives (RHONY Season 16 Premiere)
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reality roundup: A New York State of Mind with Husbands Watching Housewives (RHONY Season 16 Premiere)

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There we go. Okay. Hi, I'm Travis. I'm Emma.

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I'm Scott. I'm Jeff. And this is Bestie approved

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in Husbands Watching Housewives. Also, straight

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off the jump, I should probably apologize. Our

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show has not posted anything in the last two

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months. Emma and I have had stuff going on. I've

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had a depression. We've had family issues. I've

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spent 48 of the last 72 hours in a hospital with

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my granny. It's a lot. I'm sorry. We'll be back,

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though. I promise. There are two episodes still

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to be edited that we recorded two months ago.

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I started trying to listen to one of them. We're

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talking about Old, old, old news. So that's going

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to have to be released as a bonus episode at

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some point. So we are starting from scratch next

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week. It's fine. Life happens. Life happens.

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Yeah, and then housewives bring people together,

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see? We got you out of your funk to talk about

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Roni. Yay. We did. And I was thinking about this,

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like, this morning, where... I was like rewatching

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the episode while I was taking notes and I was

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like, I'm so excited to come back and like talk

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about this. Like this is, I, I, I couldn't be

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happier. Yeah. We were really surprised that

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we were as into it as we were. Cause you didn't

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know what to expect with like, cause it's a reboot

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of a reboot almost. So you just don't know what

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to expect with the three girls from the reboot

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and then Carol and the three new girl. It just,

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but yeah, it was refreshing to say the least.

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so emma and i a while back talked about that

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actually before we get into it first what's the

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last song everyone listened to because i will

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go off the rails i don't know the name of it

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but it was some holly humberstone muna collaboration

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which really made me happy so i i first song

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i've added to a playlist in a really long time

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that i need to have that so it was good what

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about you yeah there we go emma Oh, mine is a

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throwback, but such a good one that I have forgotten

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about. It's Lovin' That You Want by Rihanna.

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Yes. Nice. That's a classic. What about you,

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Jeff? Actually, it was Spice Up Your Life by

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the Spice Girls. I swear that was playing at

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the store the other day, too, when we were in

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there. Is that where you heard it? Is that the

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last song you listened to? No, no, I heard it

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as I was coming back from the library just a

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few minutes ago. Nice, nice. I love this. Mine

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is also a deep cut throwback. It's Commander

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with David Guetta and Kelly Rowland. Oh, yes.

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And I'm going to be honest, Scott, I don't know

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the song you were talking about. So if it's from

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that same era, love that for all of us. But like,

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I feel like Emma, Jeff and I have a very gay

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like playlist right now. And I'm very happy.

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I think my playlist is just lesbian. I just listened

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to a lot of sad lesbian music, but gay too. We're

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not going to put them out, but it's not like

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the dancey, you know, fun kind. It's just, you

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know, Let's get a U -Haul and move in together

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sort of music. And cry. And crying is the important

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part. Before we dive into Roni, can we talk about

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seeing Erika Jayne live and in person? Oh yeah,

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that's right. Please tell more. It was glorious.

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It really was. Erika Jayne was being DJ Pretty

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Mess that night. We got there and here's the

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thing. erica erica jane gave me everything i

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needed my sister also came with us and she was

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like i don't know who this lady is and like she

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couldn't figure out like why i was like losing

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my ever loving mind but she was like okay like

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i i get why you like her like she she was good

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i liked her i will say she um after her dj set

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she did how many fucks and i loved it it was

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everything i needed it was really good She was

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a vision. She opened for Kesha, right? This is

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Kesha's tour. Erica Jane and Chromio opened for

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Kesha. Emma's right. She did look incredible.

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She gave the gays everything they wanted. But

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she's an opener, so it was still light outside.

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Which isn't really the vibe. you need i think

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for dj pretty mess taking it to the club exactly

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do you remember the show she did in ibiza that

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she took kyle to and she was like dancing around

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at six o 'clock in the morning like i couldn't

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tell if she was like on one or not like that's

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what i want from erica jane and it was seven

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o 'clock in the evening in indianapolis like

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where and it was like a suburb of indy where

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like there are noise ordinances it was a whole

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thing but i loved it well like it's yeah it was

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like too sober i think that's the best way there

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it is you sober for dj pretty much that makes

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sense yeah avery talks a lot about how like when

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you are like doing anything in front of a crowd

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you want them to be just that like perfect level

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of drunk and she was the first opener so like

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i think that the sobriety of the crowd at that

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point was probably 100 exactly what you're talking

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about it was like okay yeah yeah when we saw

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her at bravo con our first year when she taught

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us all to pat the puss in the audience it was

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the place yeah it was a little awkward but i

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think there was enough people because it was

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also early in the day but it was early There

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were enough people who had taken plenty of mimosas

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before they got in there that the vibe was just

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right. I think Erika Jayne, honestly, like, because

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we played her at Abercrombie in, like, 2009.

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Like, I've known of Erika Jayne for 20 years

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at this point. I think, like, it's a very specific

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crowd she's speaking to. It's not straight women.

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It's not whoever's showing up to the catch concert

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with their girlfriend. It is... travis rodent

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like that's who it is sure i also will say like

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she's obviously been performing for a while because

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she didn't let any like quietness or awkwardness

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like affect what she was doing at all like yes

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well and it was the same kind of deal with um

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because scissor sisters were there last year

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with kesha and like no one know who that was

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like no one was yeah like and like again we also

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played the scissor sisters at Abercrombie in

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like 2009 so I was like losing my mind I was

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like Kesha like knows like who the bread and

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butter is of her crowd so it was good and also

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I I know I've talked about this on the podcast

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before Kesha puts on a show and the way that

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like so it was like Erica Jane gave me like everything

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I needed for my Abercrombie era chromio gave

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me everything i needed for my hollister area

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because we played them at hollister and then

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like kesha comes out and like i don't i didn't

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stop crying the entire time i was and then she

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sang praying and i was a wreck and my sister

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was like i don't i've never seen you like this

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it's incredible i had to leave early obviously

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mom things and so i only got to listen to a couple

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kesha songs and then i heard blow as i'm like

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in the parking lot waiting for my uber and i

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was like i forget that kesha's friends with all

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the beverly you know with kyle yeah yeah she

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is yeah yeah she's been on the show why isn't

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she a housewife yet uh she's because i think

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that she's a little too exciting for that show

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i'm gonna be honest i know you guys love beverly

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hills but like can you imagine putting someone

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like kesha who like is very honest about like

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she's actually honest about her sexuality unlike

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some of the people on that show and she has no

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problem saying hey i'm gonna go to a nudist resort

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and hey i'm gonna be cool and i i just i simply

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don't think the show can handle that I'll take

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it one step more offensive. I think at a certain

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point of celebrity, you're kind of, dare I say,

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above. Oh, for sure. Oh, yes. Yes. It's also

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not her demographic. It just wouldn't work. Right.

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As opposed to Leah or Tracy Tudor. And, like,

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as a recording artist, too, that's a thing. Because

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we're about to talk about Martha Stewart. Great

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segue into Roni. Martha Stewart, though, was

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always quintessential housewife. That's what

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her career is. And so that's, like, a whole different

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thing. Right. You forget that she was, like,

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on the farm being a housewife. And then, like,

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this whole thing sprang up. Yeah. Yeah. And then

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she got her own TV show and all of that. But,

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like, housewives. aligns with her i think it

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does and i especially new york because like martha

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stewart like i mean i know like her whole thing

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was like connecticut and the hamptons and everything

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but like martha stewart feels like new york to

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me like it's like it's the same way like yeah

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she's upper east side she's got that that old

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money field you know that yeah here's what you

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need to do to be proper you know that sort of

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thing well it's like martha stewart is just like

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it's perfect for like showing up on new york

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so i i loved it but how did we all feel about

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new york i was pleasantly surprised myself okay

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same just like oh this is great okay i thought

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the energy was great other than the silly you

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know carol bradshaw moment at the beginning um

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that that was just a little too much but i was

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so happy just the way they kind of brought it

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all together and the way they introduced us to

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everyone kind of gave us some set the energy

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right i think for the rest of the show before

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they kind of brought us back into oh here's aaron

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being aaron again you know like hbo could just

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could sue for that honestly honestly we'll get

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to that i will say so emma and i did an episode

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with one of the girls from conspiracy reality

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and then i also did an episode with the girls

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from shaded reality and they both talked about

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they didn't love the reboots like and i was the

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complete opposite like i expected to hate the

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reboot because i like again we've talked about

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bethany frankel's my hero i didn't love the season

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that she went off of it like but it was like

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there was always like a feeling of like i love

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the I love Luann Della Sebs like and I love Sonia

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Morgan being a mess like and I love as much as

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I hate her I still I can I can handle Ramona

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in a way that I can't handle like Vicky Gunvalson

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like because it's just for some reason it felt

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different to me I right but like even the worst

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of New York was still good in my mind the I loved

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the reboot you guys I loved it and then like

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this episode this premiere didn't disappoint

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I loved it I couldn't get enough of it it feels

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like they they mix well together i know it's

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they haven't really had a lot of a lot of group

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interactions but it feels like these people not

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necessarily are friends all of them but it feels

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like they could be hanging out the same place

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and it would make sense a believable group yes

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yes well what i will say because like i think

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the biggest complaint about the reboot was these

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women don't know each other like i think brin

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didn't know any of the girls i think jessel knew

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i may i don't know they didn't know each other

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was the long and short of it and it feels like

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they've gotten to know each other so like i think

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that's why like it felt like it worked so much

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better i don't know i like i loved it though

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same i that was very there's a lot to love about

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it yeah and you can see in the episode that they

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have like background with each other it's not

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starting from zero scratch Yeah, I think that's

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what helps them is that the three from the reboot,

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or at least definitely with Sai and how she relates

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to Aaron and to Jessel, there's at least some

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foundation to build on. Whereas if it was all

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six people and Carol, six brand new people and

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Carol, you'd be like, I don't know about this.

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I'm going to be honest. I still don't know how

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I feel about Carol coming back because I'm like,

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if you were going to pick anyone, Lord have mercy.

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Go find Sonia Morgan somewhere in a bar. God

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almighty. She's busy in Palm Beach doing that

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E! show with all the other housewives from New

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York. Did you see that that's coming out literally

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in three weeks? I thought that was very interesting

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that they're competing shows now. Well, I mean,

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they're both NBC Universal properties, so I'm

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sure they're just trying to... E! is not part

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of it? It's not anymore. he got sold off to someone

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else yeah oh i thought they were i think they're

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just trying to find an old uh housewives retirement

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home for you know when the a team gets too too

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sleepy that they're going to summon down to eat

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but hopefully they can find that for the west

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coast too yeah well you know every time we see

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any of the other franchises kids being all like

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front and center we're like are they trying for

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a next gen oc are they trying for a next gen

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you know atlanta all those different versions

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so think about carol for me like carol is like

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the most least interesting thing about the show

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for me and it i didn't know that she was in the

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first episode sorry what is she's the least interesting

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The most least interesting thing about the show.

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I didn't care that she wasn't in the first episode.

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I don't have anything against Carol. It's just

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I'm more interested in these, you know, the three

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I know and the three new people. I'm just loving

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that it's all turning into being about Carol

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not liking the JFK Jr. show. That's what it seems

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the whole season's going to be about. Oh, are

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you not liking Love Story? Also the Epstein files,

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because like, i i so when i when i saw her in

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the opening credits literally like right here

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above my head and she had an apple i was like

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oh surely to god like she convinced them to cut

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out the stuff about the epstein files but like

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they talked about it in like the coming this

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season so i'm very interested to see where that

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goes and like to be fair to carol I went back

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and I dug through the articles about her and

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where she was in the Epstein files. I think she

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deserves the benefit of the doubt to say if she

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never met Jeffrey Epstein, fine. If she truly

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wasn't that close to Ghislaine, fine. I do think

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she needs to... be very very honest about that

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though that's just where i'm at with her yeah

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yeah i don't think that being in the fc files

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is like an immediate cut off it's just like how

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much did you know how did you know these people

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kind of thing right and carol ran in those circles

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i mean like she i mean she was part of the kennedy

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family at one point but the fact that like i

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she it took her so long to say anything and then

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she gave us a little bit of nothing i'm like

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babe you gotta do better like it's 2026 we have

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to do better And that's so weird to me, right?

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Because if I were somehow connected to someone

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who did something so horrible, I would be the

00:16:27.179 --> 00:16:30.759
first to be like, no, no, no, no, no. I knew

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his girlfriend socially, period, that's it. And,

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you know, it's weird to just be like, no, I don't

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know. Me? But all that being said, so we... we

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get that sex in the city style opening from the

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woman who was so desperate to be carrie bradshaw

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her entire run on that show and like i i get

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what they were trying to do and like you and

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you guys also like called me out on it where

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like emma and i talked brutally about the reboot

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of it like sex in the city was kind of ruined

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for me after that like so I was just like, okay,

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we're trying really hard to make this happen.

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Okay. It's also a very old reference, too. And

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I love Sex and the City, but that is very old.

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The theatrics on Bravo, to me, this is not going

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to land well, but they always land a little...

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Strangely, like it almost gives like low budget.

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Like they're not good at doing fiction. So I

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don't know why we're doing these. It felt a little

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high school drama -y almost. Like, hey guys,

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what do you say we do a Sex and the City takeoff?

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Yeah. And it's just like a weird vibe. I was

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just going to say it's like a weird vibe it gives

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off every time they try to do something that's

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like a skit. or like do you know what it is to

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me it's like I wholeheartedly believe that it's

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like Andy Cohen and then a bunch of gays like

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between my age and someone in their mid to late

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50s like in Rockefeller Center and they're just

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like okay you guys what do we all love and I

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think they think that's going to translate but

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like it's like gay people love camp and they

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love sex in the city and I think it doesn't translate

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well to the united states audience all that well

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that that's kind of where i believe it lands

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i can see that yeah but um also we get like the

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opening clips of everyone like running around

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and i always forget how hot aaron's husband is

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and it always catches me off guard because i'm

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like oh hey hello i was just so happy to call

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him abe the babe like it instantly came back

00:19:02.140 --> 00:19:05.420
oh right abe the babe and he's hot and apparently

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he's not shy about sending dick pics for aaron

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to show everyone like if you remember back to

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that one vacation so i remember that disrespecting

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your husband aaron who's a lot of about that

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god we start with daisy who is martha stewart's

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makeup artist and it immediately jumps to martha

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stewart getting out of the car and going into

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the apartment and i was like ah i love this because

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like well i well i was excited about that and

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everything i'm like yeah it did feel really pandery

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to be like hey everyone martha stewart pander

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to me all you want 100 % I was going to say the

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same thing. It definitely is pandering to be

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like, please, you'll be interested this time.

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And I feel bad for her if her entire, like even

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she was on Watch What Happens Live after the

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premiere and he kept asking her questions about

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Martha Stewart. I really hope her entire season

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isn't just Martha -centric because I feel really

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bad for her as a housewife if that's the case.

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Yeah, because I feel like there's more to Daisy.

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than just being connected to Martha Stewart.

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And so that's like an icebreaker, but then it's

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like, what else you got going on? And like, she

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has, you know, a lot going on with her. And you

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know, this is a little bitchy of me to say, but

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like, it's not like she's Martha Stewart's, you

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know, makeup artist from the height of Martha

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Stewart's career, you know, or has she been the

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whole time, you know? The whole time. The whole

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time. Yeah, but Martha Stewart has a lot going

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on. She's like on the cover of like Sports Illustrated.

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I will say Martha Stewart has looked amazing

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the past few years. She's great at her job. She's

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just blessed with genetics as well. Oh yeah,

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she's been stunning since the second she put

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herself on camera. She used to be a model too,

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right? That's how she got started. The thing

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that will never ever lose its shine for me with

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Martha Stewart is when she just... puts herself

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in ordinary situations because we're so used

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to seeing her be like the queen of proper uh

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you know i i used to remember when i was college

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age watching her iron sheets like this is how

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you properly iron a blanket and it's like thanks

00:21:19.349 --> 00:21:21.849
martha i need to know that so see her just showing

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up at daisy's house making fun of the store -bought

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pie painting a tiny new york kitchen you're just

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kind of like this is how i want to see martha

00:21:29.529 --> 00:21:32.859
stewart oh i couldn't get enough of that when

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she made direct eye contact with the camera she

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goes there's so much work to do and i was like

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yes i was like i imagine like it's it's probably

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very intimidating to have martha stewart of all

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people walk into your apartment and like you

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you're doing the thing but like i i you could

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drag me within an inch of my life and she's the

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only person like i'd be like you know what she's

00:21:55.900 --> 00:22:00.890
right side note on that I was going to say, the

00:22:00.890 --> 00:22:04.250
apartment, and this isn't a dig, but Daisy's

00:22:04.250 --> 00:22:06.410
apartment looked very normal. We're so used to

00:22:06.410 --> 00:22:09.829
everyone living in these real estate porn houses.

00:22:10.170 --> 00:22:14.990
I was like, oh, that's just a basic stove. It's

00:22:14.990 --> 00:22:19.849
refreshing, I think, especially after Rhode Island,

00:22:19.990 --> 00:22:24.490
where everyone was in a McMansion. I think it

00:22:24.490 --> 00:22:28.029
is so refreshing to see. like a normal house

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and it makes sense for new york i think because

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it's so such an expensive place like even if

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you make a lot of money that is still what it

00:22:35.569 --> 00:22:40.049
looks like right yeah this is also a weird deep

00:22:40.049 --> 00:22:42.329
cut did you guys ever watch i think it was on

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like the fine living network like a million years

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ago Martha Stewart's daughter and her best friend

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would just sit there and watch old clips of the

00:22:50.940 --> 00:22:52.940
Martha Stewart show and just drag her within

00:22:52.940 --> 00:22:55.079
an inch of her life. And Alexis Stewart would

00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:59.539
be like, my mom never did that. I loved that

00:22:59.539 --> 00:23:02.779
show. I would watch that all the time. That was

00:23:02.779 --> 00:23:04.700
great. I can't remember her friend's name. I

00:23:04.700 --> 00:23:07.900
know what you're talking about. I know I've sent

00:23:07.900 --> 00:23:10.359
you clips of it. What was that show called? So

00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.180
the friend was a lawyer who had a show on SiriusXM.

00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:17.880
don't remember that name um lauren maybe i could

00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:19.640
be wrong but what was the name of that whatever

00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:24.559
martha oh yes I'm surprised that we got to find

00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:26.299
some episodes of that. We've been finding really

00:23:26.299 --> 00:23:29.400
weird things on Amazon's live channels in the

00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.259
last few months. We're like, why is this being

00:23:32.259 --> 00:23:36.059
shown 24 hours a day? But like old episodes of

00:23:36.059 --> 00:23:39.460
Four Weddings, which we loved when we were four

00:23:39.460 --> 00:23:42.940
years old. I loved Four Weddings. Say yes to

00:23:42.940 --> 00:23:45.920
the dress. The other thing, there's someone on

00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.440
TikTok who does Where Are They Nows about Four

00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:51.819
Weddings episodes. And it is... It's addicting.

00:23:52.099 --> 00:23:54.099
So we'll watch an episode and be like, oh, let's

00:23:54.099 --> 00:23:55.680
find it. And we'll find them. Oh, they're not

00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:59.440
together. Oh, darn. Or they died. Well, yeah.

00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:01.700
I love predicting the ones that got divorced.

00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.160
I'm like, oh, you had a taco bar at your wedding?

00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:15.859
Divorce. I love this. Absolutely. So how do we

00:24:15.859 --> 00:24:17.900
feel about Sai and her friendship with Jessel?

00:24:19.800 --> 00:24:22.119
I forgot how much they hated each other. So when

00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:23.299
they did the flashbacks, I'm like, oh, that's

00:24:23.299 --> 00:24:25.259
right. You hated her. You were like, got into

00:24:25.259 --> 00:24:27.420
that fight first season and you talked shit about

00:24:27.420 --> 00:24:31.400
Puppet. And I'm cool with them like being friends.

00:24:31.500 --> 00:24:33.700
I mean, if it lasts, it lasts. But like, I'm

00:24:33.700 --> 00:24:37.500
like, okay, let's do. I was shocked by it. Like,

00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:39.400
I truly thought it was going to be one of those

00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.000
things where it's like, we're going to call a

00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:44.660
truce at some point. I never thought like they

00:24:44.660 --> 00:24:47.650
would become close. And like, I... i'll be honest

00:24:47.650 --> 00:24:51.150
like i like their friendship like it feels comfortable

00:24:51.150 --> 00:24:54.029
to me and i also i'm gonna be really honest i

00:24:54.029 --> 00:24:57.650
did not like psy her first season on the show

00:24:57.650 --> 00:24:59.269
i thought she was insufferable i thought that

00:24:59.269 --> 00:25:01.150
whole thing about that well i'm hungry like i'm

00:25:01.150 --> 00:25:03.990
hungry like that whole like that that was exhausting

00:25:03.990 --> 00:25:08.289
to me she's grown on me so much i love psy i

00:25:08.289 --> 00:25:11.650
think she's so hot i think that like and i think

00:25:11.650 --> 00:25:13.890
that like her being honest right now is probably

00:25:13.890 --> 00:25:17.960
what made her grow on me but like i'm a big fan

00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.099
i i like her i always liked her she's always

00:25:21.099 --> 00:25:26.220
my favorite so um i like yeah yeah while the

00:25:26.220 --> 00:25:28.920
girls from the original reboot yeah not even

00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:31.519
oh the the one that worked for j crew what was

00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:38.039
her name oh bren no no no no no um yeah kind

00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.019
of a nothing burger to me like this will like

00:25:42.019 --> 00:25:45.650
oh it's the gentle lions and i'm like and People

00:25:45.650 --> 00:25:47.269
outside of New York don't know who Jen Wyatt

00:25:47.269 --> 00:25:52.309
is. I loved her. I couldn't get enough of her.

00:25:52.369 --> 00:25:55.730
Her just sitting there being fabulous. I love

00:25:55.730 --> 00:25:59.410
someone who's quietly shady, and I thought she

00:25:59.410 --> 00:26:03.690
did that very well. I loved her. I liked her

00:26:03.690 --> 00:26:07.789
a lot, but I tend to be with Jeff on this. Sai

00:26:07.789 --> 00:26:10.690
was always wonderful because she was just snarky.

00:26:11.069 --> 00:26:12.690
Like, she was, like, just the right amount of

00:26:12.690 --> 00:26:15.250
bitey and snarky and, like, I'm not going to

00:26:15.250 --> 00:26:17.849
put up with your shit. She was mean. Sure. And

00:26:17.849 --> 00:26:20.710
compared to her, I think the editing did her

00:26:20.710 --> 00:26:22.690
a little bit dirty that first season. I will

00:26:22.690 --> 00:26:26.829
give her that, but here we are. Yeah. What I

00:26:26.829 --> 00:26:29.410
think is great about the Cy Jessel thing is that

00:26:29.410 --> 00:26:32.289
Cy taking accountability for being like, I was

00:26:32.289 --> 00:26:36.309
an asshole to you. And I was projecting. Because

00:26:36.309 --> 00:26:38.180
they always talk about housewives. projecting

00:26:38.180 --> 00:26:40.180
and everyone denies it but the fact that she's

00:26:40.180 --> 00:26:42.500
like i was talking about your marriage because

00:26:42.500 --> 00:26:46.339
my marriage was in a place is just like groundbreaking

00:26:46.339 --> 00:26:50.200
oh a thousand percent like i was so impressed

00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:53.960
with that and i was like oh you you have grown

00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.150
up and i think that's very cool Yeah, and I think

00:26:57.150 --> 00:26:58.930
that's kind of what happened to them is during

00:26:58.930 --> 00:27:01.369
the downtime, without the pressure of having

00:27:01.369 --> 00:27:03.390
to film and be on camera, they probably did come

00:27:03.390 --> 00:27:05.329
together and be like, you're actually pretty

00:27:05.329 --> 00:27:07.069
cool. Like when we're not on camera and we're

00:27:07.069 --> 00:27:09.029
not surrounded by the insanity that is the rest

00:27:09.029 --> 00:27:12.230
of the ladies, I can deal with you better. And

00:27:12.230 --> 00:27:13.730
so I think they probably found common ground

00:27:13.730 --> 00:27:16.190
there. And we're also for side to be like, I

00:27:16.190 --> 00:27:18.569
was like totally lying the entire time and trying

00:27:18.569 --> 00:27:20.789
to make everything seem like it was perfect.

00:27:20.990 --> 00:27:22.849
When things weren't with David, they weren't

00:27:22.849 --> 00:27:25.180
perfect because they seem. totally fine on camera

00:27:25.180 --> 00:27:27.579
and he got these two great kids and like he just

00:27:27.579 --> 00:27:30.660
seemed cool and whatever and the fact that she

00:27:30.660 --> 00:27:34.759
was like just unhappy for so long and well but

00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:36.839
let's not forget she still has the opportunity

00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.240
to paint david however she wants because she

00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:42.799
has the platform to do so so you know i mean

00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:44.740
but yeah we're let's believe women you're right

00:27:44.740 --> 00:27:48.750
i'm sorry No, but I so I feel like the truth

00:27:48.750 --> 00:27:50.130
is kind of somewhere in the middle because I

00:27:50.130 --> 00:27:52.269
do feel like she was 100 percent lying to herself.

00:27:52.450 --> 00:27:53.910
So she was saying like, oh, things are good.

00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:55.410
Things are good. But like when she like woke

00:27:55.410 --> 00:27:57.890
up one morning and she's like, I hate you. Like,

00:27:57.990 --> 00:28:01.410
I feel like that that feeling comes on fast and

00:28:01.410 --> 00:28:05.269
quick and it sucks. And like, also, I didn't

00:28:05.269 --> 00:28:07.309
put this in my notes, but like I see them as

00:28:07.309 --> 00:28:10.759
two people that got together and like. I might

00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:11.940
have to cut this because this is going to be

00:28:11.940 --> 00:28:13.460
mean. He looks like the kind of guy that was

00:28:13.460 --> 00:28:18.259
much hotter when he was younger. Oh. I could

00:28:18.259 --> 00:28:22.059
see that. Here we are today. He looked like a

00:28:22.059 --> 00:28:29.279
Wahlberg. Yes. Yeah. Joe Biden. Yeah. Just that

00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:32.980
pale, like you lived in Boston kind of. Oh, Joe

00:28:32.980 --> 00:28:35.680
Biden was hot when he was younger. Yeah. Yeah.

00:28:36.779 --> 00:28:39.380
I can see it, especially with this guy, too.

00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:41.839
He kind of has that same similar, like, agent

00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:44.099
-ness now. But, yeah, you don't need to cut that

00:28:44.099 --> 00:28:46.299
out. That's perfectly valid to say about someone.

00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:48.900
I used to be hotter when I was younger, and I'm

00:28:48.900 --> 00:28:50.700
waiting for Jeff to leave me at any minute now.

00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:57.720
Oh, I still am waiting to get hot. But, um, it's

00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.170
like... He looks like the kind of guy, like Chase

00:29:00.170 --> 00:29:02.329
on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, they look like

00:29:02.329 --> 00:29:04.970
they would have been best friends if they were

00:29:04.970 --> 00:29:09.190
the same age. And I feel like she's like, oh,

00:29:09.410 --> 00:29:12.309
I'm not into this anymore a little bit. I want

00:29:12.309 --> 00:29:14.789
her to be into women, though. I want her to be

00:29:14.789 --> 00:29:17.069
into women. And it's probably more than that,

00:29:17.150 --> 00:29:21.190
obviously. She didn't just divorce because he

00:29:21.190 --> 00:29:25.269
got ugly. But I think when you start growing

00:29:25.269 --> 00:29:28.740
apart from someone, Like, it's so much easier

00:29:28.740 --> 00:29:32.859
to be like, oh. Like, if they're hot, it's much

00:29:32.859 --> 00:29:36.359
easier to keep them around, yes. I also forgot

00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:38.019
the whole thing that, like, she would say that

00:29:38.019 --> 00:29:41.980
he retired to take care of the kids, but really

00:29:41.980 --> 00:29:44.779
he just didn't have a job. I was like, oh, okay.

00:29:47.099 --> 00:29:50.259
That seems a little fuzzy because there's no

00:29:50.259 --> 00:29:54.059
way, in my mind, as I'm hearing her say that,

00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.980
there's no way they didn't talk about it. like

00:29:56.980 --> 00:30:00.579
privately at home like when she didn't have a

00:30:00.579 --> 00:30:04.220
job did they ever sit down to be like that's

00:30:04.220 --> 00:30:06.859
okay we should have someone home with the kids

00:30:06.859 --> 00:30:09.599
anyway because that's a that's a different context

00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:13.369
than what she said you know i will bet you anything

00:30:13.369 --> 00:30:16.789
that he got he because i feel like i remember

00:30:16.789 --> 00:30:19.950
he worked in tech i feel like he either got the

00:30:19.950 --> 00:30:22.269
company shut down or it got bought out by like

00:30:22.269 --> 00:30:24.170
it's what every it's the story of every tech

00:30:24.170 --> 00:30:27.210
company and they gave him a severance package

00:30:27.210 --> 00:30:30.029
so they could say oh i retired and like i'm just

00:30:30.029 --> 00:30:32.789
gonna run on this for a little bit and i think

00:30:33.369 --> 00:30:35.609
living that housewife's lifestyle. Cause like

00:30:35.609 --> 00:30:37.269
all of these housewives will talk about it. It

00:30:37.269 --> 00:30:39.869
is expensive to be a housewife. And I think they

00:30:39.869 --> 00:30:43.369
probably ran out of the severance package a little

00:30:43.369 --> 00:30:46.690
bit quicker than they planned to. So I think

00:30:46.690 --> 00:30:48.549
that's where like the financial, like stress

00:30:48.549 --> 00:30:51.069
started coming from. And then I think like, once

00:30:51.069 --> 00:30:52.690
you start peeling back a lot of those layers,

00:30:52.789 --> 00:30:54.250
I think that's where it starts to fall apart

00:30:54.250 --> 00:30:57.910
very quickly because it's like, Oh, I don't even

00:30:57.910 --> 00:31:02.269
like you that much. So a stress intention. And

00:31:02.269 --> 00:31:05.359
it's like, They're kind of old and ugly anyway.

00:31:06.299 --> 00:31:09.680
Like, the stress eats away at the marriage. Say

00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:11.799
it again, Jeff? The stress, like, eats away at

00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:17.220
the marriage. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And then

00:31:17.220 --> 00:31:20.740
Jessel also talked a little bit about how Aaron

00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:23.299
was incredible and super supportive when, because

00:31:23.299 --> 00:31:24.960
they lost their dads within a couple of months

00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:28.000
of each other, and then Aaron flipped super quick

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.119
at the Ultimate Girls Party, or Ultimate Girls

00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.779
Trip Party at Dorinda's house. and I feel like

00:31:33.779 --> 00:31:37.960
I remember hearing about this and like, I cannot

00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:39.539
wait to watch that episode of ultimate girls

00:31:39.539 --> 00:31:41.660
trip because I feel like we've gotten so many

00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:45.220
stories and I cannot wait to see it all go down.

00:31:45.259 --> 00:31:49.859
But like, this is like, I'll get to this a little

00:31:49.859 --> 00:31:52.579
bit later, but like, I go super back and forth

00:31:52.579 --> 00:31:54.839
about Aaron, like about like really, really loving

00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.339
her being like, I feel like it's hard to love

00:31:57.339 --> 00:32:01.920
you. And this is why right here. Agreed. Yeah.

00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:03.849
Like I think last year, Last season, I would

00:32:03.849 --> 00:32:05.430
have been like, oh, love Aaron. She's great.

00:32:05.509 --> 00:32:07.609
But then it's like, you really do see she starts

00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:10.349
so much shit. And then it was like, what? Oh,

00:32:10.430 --> 00:32:13.970
my gosh. Should I start this shit? No. Oh, I

00:32:13.970 --> 00:32:15.970
have a lot of thoughts about the confrontation

00:32:15.970 --> 00:32:18.769
later. We'll get to that. So hold on to that,

00:32:18.869 --> 00:32:22.470
Jess. Yeah. So I totally believe Jess' side of

00:32:22.470 --> 00:32:24.890
things that, like, everything seemed cool until

00:32:24.890 --> 00:32:27.470
it wasn't. Yes, I wholeheartedly believe that.

00:32:27.470 --> 00:32:31.779
She was blindsided by Aaron. Yeah. From where

00:32:31.779 --> 00:32:35.559
I'm sitting as someone who's like new to Roni,

00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:40.359
she did strike me as the type, almost like a

00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.900
Robin, shall I say, where she kind of just is

00:32:43.900 --> 00:32:49.119
saying what's on her mind and is not thinking

00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:53.359
about the ramifications. she'll bring up a gripe

00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.420
and not be like oh but i'm friends with her i

00:32:55.420 --> 00:32:56.960
shouldn't say that like she just doesn't have

00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.200
that filter on her but again i've literally seen

00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.759
one episode of her you're not wrong somewhere

00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.720
between that and like the person that people

00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:09.420
make giselle out to be where it's like she's

00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:13.339
nasty and she's nasty for no reason like it's

00:33:13.339 --> 00:33:15.680
somewhere it exists somewhere between there yes

00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:18.220
i agree but giselle owns her nastiness and her

00:33:18.220 --> 00:33:22.410
messiness and aaron just like she'll trying to

00:33:22.410 --> 00:33:25.849
still be the protagonist yeah and that's what

00:33:25.849 --> 00:33:27.650
i think is ultimately going to be my issue with

00:33:27.650 --> 00:33:30.690
aaron is that especially after the confrontation

00:33:30.690 --> 00:33:33.450
later where she's like she's admitting to it

00:33:33.450 --> 00:33:36.109
but not taking any accountability to it and it's

00:33:36.109 --> 00:33:37.609
like that's literally what i wrote in my notes

00:33:37.609 --> 00:33:40.950
yes yeah and it just it's i i'm finding that's

00:33:40.950 --> 00:33:43.450
the common thread through every housewife argument

00:33:43.450 --> 00:33:47.200
that i just really i it just it's so unnerving

00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.339
and disturbing to me that like wait a minute

00:33:49.339 --> 00:33:52.980
how are you admitting to it but also having taking

00:33:52.980 --> 00:33:55.359
no accountability that you had anything to do

00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:57.200
with it like yeah i said those things but that's

00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.440
not my fault it's like what how do you do that

00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:09.800
mental gymnastics behind your back but that doesn't

00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.679
mean you need to feel that way right i feel how

00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.460
i feel but you should not feel that way right

00:34:16.460 --> 00:34:18.639
and who told you that who told you that i only

00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.559
told two people about that oh my god we'll get

00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:25.519
to it anyway um so we meet hayley as she's rollerblading

00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:28.000
down the street and this gave very much kelly

00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.119
ben simone jogging in the middle of the street

00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:33.860
vibes uh yeah i think about that scene constantly

00:34:33.860 --> 00:34:37.820
um aaron heads over to hayley's house and then

00:34:37.820 --> 00:34:40.480
hayley explains that she always has two apartments

00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:44.900
because she gets tired of her husband and i like

00:34:44.900 --> 00:34:47.659
hayley i like hayley for that i like hayley because

00:34:47.659 --> 00:34:49.780
her refrigerator looks exactly like my refrigerator

00:34:49.780 --> 00:34:53.260
i like hayley because she has that thing that

00:34:53.260 --> 00:34:55.179
my dad has where she wants her house to look

00:34:55.179 --> 00:35:01.900
clean and unlived in i love it yes all of that

00:35:02.989 --> 00:35:06.070
and then we also get a clip of haley's mom dancing

00:35:06.070 --> 00:35:09.690
and like i put this in my notes but like it is

00:35:09.690 --> 00:35:11.889
so bizarre to me when people's parents have hobbies

00:35:11.889 --> 00:35:14.909
because like my family simply does not do that

00:35:14.909 --> 00:35:17.469
and i'm like oh like other people are active

00:35:17.469 --> 00:35:22.849
that is so strange like like that's weird but

00:35:22.849 --> 00:35:24.809
it's like they threw in like a random tiktok

00:35:24.809 --> 00:35:29.130
video yeah for mom dancing Yeah, my family's

00:35:29.130 --> 00:35:31.429
hobbies are, I think, watching TV and smoking

00:35:31.429 --> 00:35:33.769
weed, pretty much. So that's what they do for

00:35:33.769 --> 00:35:34.829
fun. Smoking cigarettes and going to church is

00:35:34.829 --> 00:35:41.530
my family's hobby. Yeah. Also, Hayley is the

00:35:41.530 --> 00:35:44.530
woman that dated John from John and Kate Plus

00:35:44.530 --> 00:35:47.690
8. And, like, I did not clock that until she

00:35:47.690 --> 00:35:50.130
literally said it in the episode. And then we

00:35:50.130 --> 00:35:52.289
also find out that she dates women and she says

00:35:52.289 --> 00:35:55.570
daughters the same way Teresa Giudice does. So.

00:35:55.650 --> 00:35:59.929
Yeah. I miss the daughters. Oh. How did you miss

00:35:59.929 --> 00:36:03.510
the daughters? She said it like six times. Yeah.

00:36:03.510 --> 00:36:10.210
When I date women with daughters. But she's the

00:36:10.210 --> 00:36:11.989
one who's in the Lavender marriage, though, right?

00:36:12.170 --> 00:36:16.150
Yes. That's her. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, no wonder

00:36:16.150 --> 00:36:20.599
she has her pied -à -terre, you know. But no,

00:36:20.659 --> 00:36:22.360
I'm going to be a big fan of Hayley. I think

00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.519
Hayley is like just messy enough without being

00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:27.900
like too much of a wreck of a human being that

00:36:27.900 --> 00:36:31.179
I'm like, I like this lady. I like her too, but

00:36:31.179 --> 00:36:33.739
I feel like she's going to be a little too quirky

00:36:33.739 --> 00:36:36.719
and like blame a lot of shit on her quirkiness

00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.780
and just be like, oh, you know, just how I am.

00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:41.239
And I'm just like, I don't think she will at

00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.380
all. I think she's just like unaware that she's

00:36:43.380 --> 00:36:47.389
so weird. yeah i agree and like i think if she's

00:36:47.389 --> 00:36:48.949
gonna blame anything on anything it's the amount

00:36:48.949 --> 00:36:50.949
of weed she smokes because like she did get into

00:36:50.949 --> 00:36:53.849
that a little bit later and i was like oh i get

00:36:53.849 --> 00:36:57.889
it i see it but that was a nice that was a nice

00:36:57.889 --> 00:37:01.349
uh reveal for me where where she's later on like

00:37:01.349 --> 00:37:03.369
i was just so high she could have been saying

00:37:03.369 --> 00:37:05.389
anything i had no idea what she was talking about

00:37:05.389 --> 00:37:08.849
and it's like oh very interesting you could have

00:37:08.849 --> 00:37:11.750
a lot of these women get very weird about that

00:37:11.750 --> 00:37:16.920
and i'm like who cares babe like Yeah. Gummy.

00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:22.139
Call it a day. How loud is that? I didn't want

00:37:22.139 --> 00:37:24.699
to say anything. I mean, we can hear it, but

00:37:24.699 --> 00:37:26.780
every so often it just sounds like you have a

00:37:26.780 --> 00:37:30.900
bird. And I'm like, that's fine. It's a cockatoo.

00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:36.679
Yeah, you got a cockatoo. We've got about five.

00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.119
You just muted yourself. Oh, you're giving him

00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.840
some talking to. Yeah, I probably got about.

00:37:44.380 --> 00:37:46.840
Five minutes before I have to go calm that down.

00:37:47.219 --> 00:37:51.440
We'll see. I just... The next two scenes are

00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:55.340
completely irrelevant. We go to Jessel's house

00:37:55.340 --> 00:37:57.219
where she's getting ready for the Lunar New Year.

00:37:57.659 --> 00:38:00.239
I wrote in my notes, I'm kind of into Povit,

00:38:00.300 --> 00:38:04.260
but I can't tell if I am or not for sure. His

00:38:04.260 --> 00:38:07.320
undercut's a bit too harsh. I wish he didn't

00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:09.559
have such a tight fade there. It was really bothering

00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.340
me. That's fair. Then we get a flashback to Jessel

00:38:14.340 --> 00:38:15.800
having dinner with her parents, like, because

00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.840
she's, like, kind of reliving some of the stuff

00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.059
with her dad. And her dad, like, and I don't

00:38:21.059 --> 00:38:22.780
say this about a lot of dads, because, like,

00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:26.599
I'm very, like, I get weird about, like, parent

00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:30.300
stuff a lot of the time. I, her dad seemed like

00:38:30.300 --> 00:38:31.920
a genuine sweetheart. Like, I feel like he was

00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.360
a really good guy. And, like, I feel bad that,

00:38:34.380 --> 00:38:36.559
like, she lost him. And I honestly felt the same

00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.619
way about Aaron's dad, because, like, we met

00:38:38.619 --> 00:38:40.940
him last season on the show. And I'm like. god

00:38:40.940 --> 00:38:42.900
that sucks that they lost them so close together

00:38:42.900 --> 00:38:44.639
and that like that had to be really hard for

00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:47.579
them yeah yeah the one thing that we talked about

00:38:47.579 --> 00:38:50.579
was that um we never saw jessel's dad like they

00:38:50.579 --> 00:38:53.139
clearly filmed with him in the previous seasons

00:38:53.139 --> 00:38:55.880
but they never used any of the footage so i thought

00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:58.699
that was interesting i feel like i remember that

00:38:58.699 --> 00:39:02.619
dinner because i remember the mom's hair i don't

00:39:02.619 --> 00:39:06.260
remember a ton with the dad but like i i feel

00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:08.000
like i know we met him but we you're right i

00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.480
don't think we got that much of him if we got

00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.889
anything I remember, like, she went to lunch

00:39:11.889 --> 00:39:14.449
with her mom and revealed that they had had the

00:39:14.449 --> 00:39:17.650
kids through IVF. Because she didn't know. Mom

00:39:17.650 --> 00:39:19.630
didn't know. Yes, yes, yes, yes. She thought

00:39:19.630 --> 00:39:21.650
she was going to be weird about that, I think.

00:39:21.690 --> 00:39:24.010
And she was like, whatever. Well, not whatever,

00:39:24.090 --> 00:39:26.530
but she was like, you know, the improv is great.

00:39:27.030 --> 00:39:29.690
Jessel has a lot of opinions about her IVF journey.

00:39:32.110 --> 00:39:35.570
So then Cy goes shopping at the RealReal, and...

00:39:37.929 --> 00:39:40.190
I couldn't tell if this is like an ad placement

00:39:40.190 --> 00:39:43.489
on the show or if this was like a real shopping

00:39:43.489 --> 00:39:46.429
trip. But like, I'm jealous of people that can

00:39:46.429 --> 00:39:49.750
thrift because like I, I want to be that person

00:39:49.750 --> 00:39:51.989
that like goes and finds cool things at a thrift

00:39:51.989 --> 00:39:55.110
store. I feel like I do not have A, the patience

00:39:55.110 --> 00:39:59.250
or B, like. like it needs to be like in neat

00:39:59.250 --> 00:40:01.510
piles like it is at the buckle like i can't i

00:40:01.510 --> 00:40:03.989
can't go into a thrift store because it like

00:40:03.989 --> 00:40:06.630
stresses me out but i wish i was that person

00:40:06.630 --> 00:40:10.449
um i love that daisy shows up and fully just

00:40:10.449 --> 00:40:12.750
like starts changing like in the middle of the

00:40:12.750 --> 00:40:16.010
store i thought that was so kind um there's no

00:40:16.010 --> 00:40:20.409
boys here cut to like two boys yeah and then

00:40:20.409 --> 00:40:24.130
size like are you okay yeah i love i love it

00:40:24.130 --> 00:40:28.980
so much and I'm going to be honest. I feel like

00:40:28.980 --> 00:40:30.539
the whole thing where she took the jacket up

00:40:30.539 --> 00:40:32.539
to the register and the guy was like, I scanned

00:40:32.539 --> 00:40:36.880
this and someone bought it online. That had to

00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.320
have been staged. I don't buy that that happened

00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.260
in real life. I'm sorry. Actually, that kind

00:40:42.260 --> 00:40:43.719
of supports your idea that this might have been

00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.380
an ad placement because they'd be like, hey,

00:40:45.420 --> 00:40:47.059
you might come into our store and find something

00:40:47.059 --> 00:40:49.719
you like, only to find out someone already bought

00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.320
it online. Which, by the way, you can do that.

00:40:54.420 --> 00:40:57.969
Here's our website. I also feel like they were

00:40:57.969 --> 00:41:01.389
like, with the prices, it was like, it's $225.

00:41:01.710 --> 00:41:03.369
It's nothing. You can do that. And I'm like,

00:41:03.469 --> 00:41:10.469
okay. But here we are. So Jessel shows up to

00:41:10.469 --> 00:41:17.250
her party. I love the way the party went. I loved

00:41:17.250 --> 00:41:19.429
everything about the party. This was a really

00:41:19.429 --> 00:41:23.869
good, like, it wasn't like forced drama. It wasn't.

00:41:24.940 --> 00:41:27.199
It didn't feel like it was like I'm having a

00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.380
party just for the sake of having a premiere

00:41:30.380 --> 00:41:32.699
party, which it absolutely was because no one

00:41:32.699 --> 00:41:35.500
has a party for Lunar New Year. But like it felt

00:41:35.500 --> 00:41:39.139
like she actually put some thought into it. We

00:41:39.139 --> 00:41:41.179
meet Erica, who's married to a tech billionaire,

00:41:41.260 --> 00:41:44.599
and she's gorgeous. And I cannot wait to see

00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.639
more of her because like they have an island

00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:51.070
like. Yes, we go to the island. yeah carol's

00:41:51.070 --> 00:41:56.929
like oh no an island and i only get in trouble

00:41:56.929 --> 00:42:01.730
when i go on islands that was good that was very

00:42:01.730 --> 00:42:05.030
good i don't know how i don't know why everyone

00:42:05.030 --> 00:42:06.530
was having such a big deal with the fact that

00:42:06.530 --> 00:42:10.789
she was renting that dress like i mean i know

00:42:10.789 --> 00:42:15.150
she's got money i know but like still like you

00:42:15.150 --> 00:42:17.289
don't want to like I don't know the whole idea

00:42:17.289 --> 00:42:18.769
that you buy something wear it once and never

00:42:18.769 --> 00:42:20.889
wear it again especially if you know you're that

00:42:20.889 --> 00:42:23.030
person who's only going to wear something once

00:42:23.030 --> 00:42:26.429
I think that just makes sense I like that she

00:42:26.429 --> 00:42:30.949
rented it I think that like I put in my notes

00:42:30.949 --> 00:42:32.630
I was like oh she's relatable and she's one of

00:42:32.630 --> 00:42:35.750
us like kind of jokingly but I was like I like

00:42:35.750 --> 00:42:37.869
that she still rents stuff like because I have

00:42:37.869 --> 00:42:39.789
no idea what her background is I have no idea

00:42:39.789 --> 00:42:42.800
if she comes for money or not but like I I think

00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:44.500
that's cool because it's like, oh, you don't

00:42:44.500 --> 00:42:46.840
have to go out and buy everything. You can do

00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:51.760
this. I love it. She kind of was giving me Ashley

00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:56.559
vibes from Rhode Island. I put in my notes that

00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:58.440
she reminds me of someone and I couldn't figure

00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:00.280
it out. That's 100 % who it was. Yes, you're

00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.300
right. I was going to say Anne Hathaway, but

00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:10.019
I could see that too. Yeah, just the eyes. I'm

00:43:10.019 --> 00:43:12.469
curious to know more about her because she basically

00:43:12.469 --> 00:43:14.750
like inserted in this episode so i hope that

00:43:14.750 --> 00:43:17.150
you know next episode we get more of like her

00:43:17.150 --> 00:43:19.489
backstory like what'd you do before this because

00:43:19.489 --> 00:43:23.889
i she they brought up that uh she was a wwe wrestler

00:43:23.889 --> 00:43:26.349
oh when they were on they were on the today show

00:43:26.349 --> 00:43:29.409
why and the whole cast was on the today show

00:43:29.409 --> 00:43:33.010
and they're like oh erica you were a wwe wrestler

00:43:33.010 --> 00:43:38.170
what's worse this or housewives and yeah i was

00:43:38.170 --> 00:43:42.559
like oh she is yeah so she's like I think there's

00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:44.079
going to be depth to her then, because I was

00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.539
like, oh, I thought being a billionaire's wife

00:43:47.539 --> 00:43:50.480
might have been her whole personality, but that's

00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.659
interesting. Okay. I don't think she was born

00:43:52.659 --> 00:43:55.500
rich. I'm going to go on that on a limb and say

00:43:55.500 --> 00:43:57.659
I don't think that she came from money. That

00:43:57.659 --> 00:43:59.579
also means that she knows how to create drama

00:43:59.579 --> 00:44:03.340
as well. She's good at manufacturing false drama.

00:44:03.340 --> 00:44:06.139
Oh, a thousand percent. But I could also tell

00:44:06.139 --> 00:44:09.159
where, because she went up to Aaron at one point,

00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:10.949
and she's like, what's going on with you and

00:44:10.949 --> 00:44:13.510
Jessal like she has no problem being in the middle

00:44:13.510 --> 00:44:16.030
of that and I like that so well that's what you

00:44:16.030 --> 00:44:18.230
get when you get when you have the people who

00:44:18.230 --> 00:44:21.130
are richer than God they're just like I have

00:44:21.130 --> 00:44:23.210
I can do whatever I want because if this doesn't

00:44:23.210 --> 00:44:25.710
work out whatever I will just move on to the

00:44:25.710 --> 00:44:29.010
next thing so whoops I alienated my entire cast

00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:34.480
I mean, Jackie Goldschneider did it, and we found

00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:38.119
out she has millions, so why not? Jackie Goldschneider,

00:44:38.219 --> 00:44:40.159
that's a deep cut. I think about her a lot. I

00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:45.739
like her. I listen to a podcast where they were

00:44:45.739 --> 00:44:47.940
talking about her run on New Jersey, and I was

00:44:47.940 --> 00:44:49.820
like, I forgot that I liked her a little bit.

00:44:50.139 --> 00:44:52.139
I loved her her first couple seasons, when she

00:44:52.139 --> 00:44:54.960
would go up against Teresa and had no qualms

00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:57.559
about it. But I think when she flipped to be

00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:59.780
like, now I want to be Teresa's friend and screw

00:44:59.780 --> 00:45:03.039
Margaret, I was like, oh no, honey. no i think

00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:05.599
constantly about the fight she got into with

00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:07.719
dolores and she's like i'm not worried about

00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.500
what you think dolores and then dolores goes

00:45:10.500 --> 00:45:15.500
okay jackie constantly like it is like crack

00:45:15.500 --> 00:45:18.559
to me that is my vote okay jackie is my vocal

00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:22.000
stem like i'm so serious we do that we all feel

00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:33.539
like mrs marion webster oh god poor jackie um

00:45:33.539 --> 00:45:37.900
so daisy and eugene show up to the party and

00:45:37.900 --> 00:45:41.179
eugene ended up being hotter than like his pictures

00:45:41.179 --> 00:45:43.119
from like when they were talking about and made

00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.360
him look like i was like oh he's handsome like

00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.900
i'm into him very much so and like she dogged

00:45:47.900 --> 00:45:49.840
it out what she called him boring in her confessional

00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:54.719
yeah i was like he seems lovely i'll be boring

00:45:54.719 --> 00:46:00.789
i'll finish his margarita i don't care keep some

00:46:00.789 --> 00:46:07.329
juice in the kids room oh I'm like is that my

00:46:07.329 --> 00:46:09.150
camera is there something on my teeth I think

00:46:09.150 --> 00:46:12.349
it's like something on your camera I saw it earlier

00:46:12.349 --> 00:46:17.030
I thought it was like my screen yeah okay I hate

00:46:17.030 --> 00:46:21.550
this I'm gonna have so much editing to do later

00:46:21.550 --> 00:46:27.019
so hayley and her date show up and i like that

00:46:27.019 --> 00:46:29.260
like she talked about being married and she's

00:46:29.260 --> 00:46:31.940
still bringing women to functions i'm like oh

00:46:31.940 --> 00:46:37.420
she's messy and i like it i'm i'm so into this

00:46:37.420 --> 00:46:40.860
um she's not hiding anything it's like hi here's

00:46:40.860 --> 00:46:43.480
my date who's a girl by the way i date girls

00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.019
like she like first seen you know is talking

00:46:46.019 --> 00:46:49.000
about that so other housewives would have like

00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.980
waited like four seasons before we got to see

00:46:51.980 --> 00:46:56.550
you guys i'm dating women you know yeah and like

00:46:56.550 --> 00:46:58.389
yeah and i also just like the way the other women

00:46:58.389 --> 00:47:01.909
are responding to it with like okay just like

00:47:01.909 --> 00:47:04.110
they're caught off guard you can tell they're

00:47:04.110 --> 00:47:06.809
caught off guard but they're just like i what

00:47:06.809 --> 00:47:08.789
am i gonna do with that like fine that's who

00:47:08.789 --> 00:47:11.570
you are you know i it's very refreshing like

00:47:11.570 --> 00:47:15.809
that's just hayley yeah yeah but like that's

00:47:15.809 --> 00:47:17.969
refreshing and then also like this is completely

00:47:17.969 --> 00:47:21.059
off topic but like In Atlanta, like, towards

00:47:21.059 --> 00:47:23.059
the end of the season where they got into, like,

00:47:23.099 --> 00:47:25.440
yeah, I dated women. And, oh, yeah, my last relationship

00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:28.420
was with a woman. And, like, was it Kay Michelle?

00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.099
Was, like, I thought I was going to marry a woman.

00:47:30.139 --> 00:47:33.739
And I'm, like, this is cool. Like, this is really

00:47:33.739 --> 00:47:36.800
cool that they're, like, so open and chill about

00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:42.880
this. Like, I like that. Because, like, I think

00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.539
we're, like, all so, like, conditioned to, like,

00:47:45.539 --> 00:47:48.880
remember an era of housewives. It's, like. No,

00:47:48.940 --> 00:47:50.260
no, no, there are no problems in my marriage.

00:47:50.300 --> 00:47:52.360
No, my husband never cheated on me. No, no, like,

00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.599
what there are court records of never happened.

00:47:55.659 --> 00:47:59.780
Like, I like this, like, honesty and, like, refreshingness.

00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:02.119
Like, I like it. Well, not only that, they would

00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.900
always weaponize homosexuality, especially on

00:48:05.900 --> 00:48:08.059
Atlanta. So the fact that they're kind of like

00:48:08.059 --> 00:48:12.239
now, you know, embracing it, even if it's just

00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:14.780
the lady pool, you know, or the lady pond, but,

00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:16.800
you know, still, it's still refreshing, you know?

00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:19.519
Yeah, in this day and age, you can't just have

00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:24.639
that antiquated idea of homosexuality. It's so

00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:26.780
funny to see, like, Portia's arc of, like, you

00:48:26.780 --> 00:48:28.920
know, like, oh, I would never do those things.

00:48:29.099 --> 00:48:31.239
And now it's like, I'm dating a woman, you know?

00:48:32.099 --> 00:48:35.679
Well, it's like, that, Portia's arc is deeply

00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:37.800
interesting to me because it's like, there was

00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.900
one point, and, like, I don't, I can forgive

00:48:40.900 --> 00:48:44.199
her for this because, like, she has been very

00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.500
honest about like her journey, but like, I mean,

00:48:46.500 --> 00:48:48.300
there's like a sermon where she's out there like

00:48:48.300 --> 00:48:52.739
screaming about like lesbians. And I'm like,

00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:56.000
if that's how you feel, that sucks. But like,

00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:59.480
and now she's like fully with sway and I'm like,

00:48:59.539 --> 00:49:01.579
okay, like we've come full circle. And like,

00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:04.699
I, I, I appreciate that. Cause like, here's the

00:49:04.699 --> 00:49:07.159
thing. I do think there's room for everyone to

00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:08.719
make mistakes. And I think there's, it's like,

00:49:08.780 --> 00:49:10.820
you can, you can say stuff and it's like your,

00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:14.559
your opinions and views can evolve. i i like

00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.519
that porsche like has come so far number one

00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.179
or number two it's like she's like hey yeah you're

00:49:21.179 --> 00:49:24.099
look at me now like i think that's really cool

00:49:24.099 --> 00:49:26.760
yeah someone on reddit actually mentioned that

00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:29.679
whole thing about when she was a pastor and like

00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.360
spoke out against homosexuality and like they

00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:34.760
were saying like that should have been brought

00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:38.380
up maybe on this past reunion of like it's so

00:49:38.380 --> 00:49:40.619
great you're where you've come from but do you

00:49:40.619 --> 00:49:44.860
ever think about that stuff about you know before

00:49:44.860 --> 00:49:48.360
when you were not so cool with the gays and weren't

00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:53.599
very um correct in your thinking i don't i don't

00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:55.500
know that i need that like honestly because i'm

00:49:55.500 --> 00:49:59.739
like clearly she's with a woman now like clearly

00:49:59.739 --> 00:50:07.900
she's not wearing long nails so we like We all

00:50:07.900 --> 00:50:10.039
know exactly what that was stemming from. As

00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:13.800
gay people, we can identify that. We get it.

00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:17.219
I don't know that I need that. Okay, you're right.

00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.960
I think I'm a little better from that last season.

00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.239
Yeah, but I won't go to that. We're in Roni.

00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.739
I think there is room for your point. And I also

00:50:27.739 --> 00:50:30.360
think like I'm much more like I'm much more willing

00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.519
to forgive like because here's the thing. A lot

00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:34.940
of the women on Rhode Island are going to have

00:50:34.940 --> 00:50:38.420
a lot to answer for next season. So I think like

00:50:38.420 --> 00:50:41.460
I'm the kind of person it's like, yeah, it sucks

00:50:41.460 --> 00:50:43.639
that like you said some of that stuff and it

00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:45.460
sucks that you retweeted some of that stuff and

00:50:45.460 --> 00:50:49.289
it sucks that like. it sucks that like you had

00:50:49.289 --> 00:50:51.989
viewpoints that like didn't align with like who

00:50:51.989 --> 00:50:54.110
i believed you were but if you can apologize

00:50:54.110 --> 00:50:57.070
for that you can like do better i can be okay

00:50:57.070 --> 00:50:58.889
with it like and i don't i don't expect that

00:50:58.889 --> 00:51:00.690
of anyone else that's fully a me thing but like

00:51:00.690 --> 00:51:02.610
i also i think i'm much more forgiving in that

00:51:02.610 --> 00:51:06.250
regard than like than i think i should be sometimes

00:51:06.250 --> 00:51:08.150
i don't know but like so there's room for your

00:51:08.150 --> 00:51:09.820
viewpoint too no i think you're at the better

00:51:09.820 --> 00:51:11.539
point of view because it's like let's just move

00:51:11.539 --> 00:51:13.880
on because that's what this show is about of

00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:16.920
conflict and resolution so you did wrong you

00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.559
admit to it apologize and then we move forward

00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:23.119
so there's no need to like go back to like the

00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.619
olden days of the 2000s when you were like acting

00:51:25.619 --> 00:51:28.949
a fool on the internet sure and to be fair like

00:51:28.949 --> 00:51:30.650
with Rhode Island like I know we're getting off

00:51:30.650 --> 00:51:33.610
topic here but like I think that's a lot more

00:51:33.610 --> 00:51:35.730
fresh because like that stuff is a lot more recent

00:51:35.730 --> 00:51:39.170
and it's like I was like oh I like you couldn't

00:51:39.170 --> 00:51:41.369
tell me that Joe Ellen wasn't like God's gift

00:51:41.369 --> 00:51:46.170
to gay men like that that does stay a little

00:51:46.170 --> 00:51:53.090
bit so there's that yes but here we are um Where

00:51:53.090 --> 00:51:56.289
were we? Oh, and then Psy rolls up in her jacket

00:51:56.289 --> 00:52:00.369
and, like, she looked cut. Like, that jacket

00:52:00.369 --> 00:52:02.510
that was, like, hanging off the shoulders. I

00:52:02.510 --> 00:52:04.909
was like, I love this. I love it. I love it.

00:52:04.929 --> 00:52:10.670
I love it. I love the whole... Oh, go ahead.

00:52:10.670 --> 00:52:14.130
Sorry. No, no, no. You go. No, no, no. You go.

00:52:14.550 --> 00:52:16.670
No, no. You go. I was going to say, I didn't...

00:52:16.670 --> 00:52:22.719
Sorry to jump to the Haley, Psy... jessel interaction

00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:28.480
but i just love the whole like um of hayley putting

00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:34.260
her foot in her mouth oh yeah yeah well we're

00:52:34.260 --> 00:52:36.000
not there was it hayley that brought up the the

00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:40.199
ivf thing or was it that was hayley oh yeah when

00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:41.960
she's like oh you're going through this ivf journey

00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:45.639
and and just like who'd you hear that from oh

00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:48.860
well i i guess it was erin i didn't ask questions

00:52:50.219 --> 00:52:52.199
that struck me as they really just wanted to

00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.219
have a problem with aaron and so everyone was

00:52:54.219 --> 00:52:56.039
just like why were you saying stuff about me

00:52:56.039 --> 00:53:00.079
because i feel like aaron was 100 correct jessel

00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.460
would tell everyone about her ivf journey and

00:53:02.460 --> 00:53:04.659
i get that it's her story to tell and i agree

00:53:04.659 --> 00:53:06.659
with that but at the same time i don't think

00:53:06.659 --> 00:53:09.019
that anything that aaron was telling haley was

00:53:09.019 --> 00:53:11.260
at all out of pocket i feel like that was all

00:53:11.260 --> 00:53:13.599
completely normal things that you and i would

00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:16.590
if we were updating each other about so -and

00:53:16.590 --> 00:53:18.170
-so and such -and -such. We'd be like, oh, yeah,

00:53:18.230 --> 00:53:19.769
and then she did IVF and da -da -da -da -da.

00:53:19.789 --> 00:53:21.650
We would have gotten there eventually. But that's

00:53:21.650 --> 00:53:24.469
you and I, not this new girl who, like, came

00:53:24.469 --> 00:53:26.670
onto the scene where Aaron was telling everyone

00:53:26.670 --> 00:53:29.469
else's tales. That was not her story to tell.

00:53:29.530 --> 00:53:33.289
One sigh and two with Jessel. I don't know. Even

00:53:33.289 --> 00:53:35.329
if Travis showed up at our house tomorrow, I'd

00:53:35.329 --> 00:53:37.090
probably tell him some shit about people that

00:53:37.090 --> 00:53:39.409
I probably shouldn't, but I don't think they

00:53:39.409 --> 00:53:42.789
would freak the fuck out about it. Yeah. Also,

00:53:42.889 --> 00:53:45.750
like... if my friends know me they know that

00:53:45.750 --> 00:53:47.949
i'm going to tell them tell their secrets to

00:53:47.949 --> 00:53:49.750
people that don't know them they're they're aware

00:53:49.750 --> 00:53:52.809
of that i'm with scott on this one and i'm going

00:53:52.809 --> 00:53:56.829
to tell you why it very specifically feels like

00:53:56.829 --> 00:54:00.289
when they in the opening scene where we had psy

00:54:00.289 --> 00:54:05.679
and jessel talking to each other and jessel said

00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.780
something to sigh that was like well that's your

00:54:08.780 --> 00:54:11.579
story to tell that's no one else's story to tell

00:54:11.579 --> 00:54:13.639
it felt like they were planting that to bring

00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:17.039
this very specific thing up later i wholeheartedly

00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.119
believe scott's right about this when jessel

00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:25.019
says i'm a vault yes yes yes yes yes and i think

00:54:25.019 --> 00:54:27.039
that like they were planning that because they

00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:28.820
knew they were going to bring up the thing about

00:54:28.820 --> 00:54:34.849
the um the ultimate girls trip party and I think

00:54:34.849 --> 00:54:37.170
like this was just icing on the cake where it's

00:54:37.170 --> 00:54:40.230
like oh no one else knew I had problems in my

00:54:40.230 --> 00:54:42.289
marriage no one else knew I had IVF and like

00:54:42.289 --> 00:54:44.349
that's your fault and it's like you're a snake

00:54:44.349 --> 00:54:47.530
like whatever I think Scott's right that look

00:54:47.530 --> 00:54:50.130
on Jessel's face like oh you don't talk to other

00:54:50.130 --> 00:54:52.929
people about me oh you don't do you do you do

00:54:52.929 --> 00:54:54.730
you and she just was really like leaning into

00:54:54.730 --> 00:55:00.099
that like let's talk about it is there any housewives

00:55:00.099 --> 00:55:02.699
drama if they don't go talking shit about each

00:55:02.699 --> 00:55:07.460
other right true story i don't agree with you

00:55:07.460 --> 00:55:12.000
like and this is where i will say like i have

00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.539
no problem in the world with them bringing up

00:55:14.539 --> 00:55:16.239
things that they actually have problems with

00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:19.980
the like the jumping a little bit further and

00:55:19.980 --> 00:55:22.380
saying i have a problem with you spilling x y

00:55:22.380 --> 00:55:26.349
and z I'm like, I don't need you to make up the

00:55:26.349 --> 00:55:28.269
drama because I'm going to tell you right now,

00:55:28.530 --> 00:55:32.269
Cy and Aaron, those two very specifically, I

00:55:32.269 --> 00:55:34.269
know we're going to have no issues with them

00:55:34.269 --> 00:55:36.170
bringing up problems. And I know we're going

00:55:36.170 --> 00:55:37.789
to have no issues with them creating and finding

00:55:37.789 --> 00:55:41.030
problems. We don't have to make it up. It's okay.

00:55:41.429 --> 00:55:43.929
As long as Aaron doesn't try to pull any pranks

00:55:43.929 --> 00:55:48.829
this season, I'm going to be 1 ,000 % okay. I

00:55:48.829 --> 00:55:52.550
forgot about that goddamn spider. We're not even

00:55:52.550 --> 00:55:54.829
that, but the whole stupid thing about so -and

00:55:54.829 --> 00:55:57.190
-so sleeping. About Rebecca being pregnant. Yeah,

00:55:57.269 --> 00:55:58.929
Rebecca being pregnant with another man's child.

00:55:59.469 --> 00:56:03.670
Oh, I fully blocked that out. I completely blocked

00:56:03.670 --> 00:56:05.389
that out. We've all blocked out a lot of things

00:56:05.389 --> 00:56:10.690
about past Roni. I feel like I remember sitting

00:56:10.690 --> 00:56:13.610
in, when Emma and I shared an office, I very

00:56:13.610 --> 00:56:15.989
vividly remember watching that scene and being

00:56:15.989 --> 00:56:19.349
like, what are we doing? Like, I was so mad at

00:56:19.349 --> 00:56:24.699
that. like i was like your big bill yes they

00:56:24.699 --> 00:56:27.920
built like the whole mid -season trailer around

00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:32.880
that event yes and gossiping about like her like

00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.119
oh she had an affair and now she's pregnant and

00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:37.300
it's like oh my gosh and it was all the prank

00:56:37.300 --> 00:56:39.760
like who on production saw that and was like

00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:42.679
this is a good idea yeah so i wanted to okay

00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:47.219
that carol bradshaw god it was the same people

00:56:47.219 --> 00:56:54.489
yes um So... Emma, is your bird okay? Everything's

00:56:54.489 --> 00:56:57.349
good with the bird? Yes, the bird is asleep in

00:56:57.349 --> 00:57:01.710
its cage. Perfect. Oh, thank God. Nice. I hope

00:57:01.710 --> 00:57:05.949
that's literally where you keep your bird. A

00:57:05.949 --> 00:57:08.690
crib is rather cage -like if you think about

00:57:08.690 --> 00:57:15.579
it. Honestly. so jessel gives that gets up and

00:57:15.579 --> 00:57:18.800
she gives her speech and i what i will say is

00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:23.280
that i don't think she planned to be this like

00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:26.420
angry at aaron in the moment and like she got

00:57:26.420 --> 00:57:28.380
out there and i think she realized how annoyed

00:57:28.380 --> 00:57:30.860
she was and that like his speech got super awkward

00:57:30.860 --> 00:57:33.739
they don't i genuinely do not think that jessel

00:57:33.739 --> 00:57:35.940
is like an awkward person in general so i'm like

00:57:35.940 --> 00:57:42.500
oh baby take a public speaking class yeah um

00:57:43.389 --> 00:57:45.849
But yeah, that like, because she threw a couple

00:57:45.849 --> 00:57:48.389
of digs at Aaron and that got kind of awkward.

00:57:48.449 --> 00:57:51.590
And then she walks up to Aaron. And here's, I

00:57:51.590 --> 00:57:53.829
will say this about this conflict. On one hand,

00:57:53.829 --> 00:57:56.429
I genuinely appreciate that Aaron was like, okay,

00:57:56.449 --> 00:57:58.309
what's the problem? Like, let's come on, like,

00:57:58.309 --> 00:58:01.329
let's keep it moving. But then immediately turns

00:58:01.329 --> 00:58:03.769
around and she's like, well, I only killed two

00:58:03.769 --> 00:58:05.409
people. And it's exactly what Scott was talking

00:58:05.409 --> 00:58:06.829
about earlier, where it's like, you can't take

00:58:06.829 --> 00:58:08.690
accountability. Like, you know, you said it,

00:58:08.710 --> 00:58:14.590
you know, you said it too. Chanel Ion. Chanel

00:58:14.590 --> 00:58:17.449
Ion, yes. Also, I'm obsessed with Chanel Ion.

00:58:17.570 --> 00:58:19.289
Have you guys seen that TikTok of her yelling

00:58:19.289 --> 00:58:25.690
at the Waymo? No. It is the best thing. She's

00:58:25.690 --> 00:58:27.590
wasted in West Hollywood, and she's like, do

00:58:27.590 --> 00:58:30.809
you trust this robot man to take you home? I

00:58:30.809 --> 00:58:32.869
will send it to you guys later. It is crack to

00:58:32.869 --> 00:58:34.909
me. She has another one we saw where she's talking

00:58:34.909 --> 00:58:36.829
about how everything in America gets you salmonella.

00:58:37.909 --> 00:58:44.980
Yes. um but like so jessel and aaron are going

00:58:44.980 --> 00:58:47.079
back and forth let me cut to daisy telling erica

00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:48.960
i don't care what you say about me you can say

00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:51.619
the most personal nasty thing about me but as

00:58:51.619 --> 00:58:53.760
long as you don't say i'm fat because that's

00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:56.920
mean and i was like i cannot get enough of this

00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:59.719
woman like just please don't ever stop talking

00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:05.280
and erica fully being like yeah yeah i feel that

00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:09.000
yeah you're right i'll never say that about you

00:59:09.949 --> 00:59:14.269
And then we cut to Jessel getting fed up with

00:59:14.269 --> 00:59:17.250
Aaron. And then she ends up like putting her

00:59:17.250 --> 00:59:20.130
out. And I, this is the part where I started

00:59:20.130 --> 00:59:22.130
to feel really bad for Aaron. Cause like at one

00:59:22.130 --> 00:59:24.690
point Jessel goes up to the owner of the place

00:59:24.690 --> 00:59:26.429
and she's like, can you put her out? And then

00:59:26.429 --> 00:59:28.969
like, he goes up and like, he, he says, Hey,

00:59:29.130 --> 00:59:32.190
I'm so sorry, Aaron, you have to go. And, like,

00:59:32.230 --> 00:59:35.409
this party, it was a smaller venue, and there

00:59:35.409 --> 00:59:37.610
weren't a ton of people there. So, you know,

00:59:37.650 --> 00:59:39.449
everyone was watching, knowing exactly what was

00:59:39.449 --> 00:59:41.409
going on. Of course. It had to be mortifying.

00:59:41.670 --> 00:59:44.510
Like, that had to suck. Well, I just like that

00:59:44.510 --> 00:59:46.250
Aaron was like, oh, okay, yeah, you're kicking

00:59:46.250 --> 00:59:49.469
me. Fine. All right. I'm leaving. Where's my

00:59:49.469 --> 00:59:53.050
husband? This is so stupid. And Abe was off somewhere

00:59:53.050 --> 00:59:55.050
being hot. And, like, so she gets all the way

00:59:55.050 --> 00:59:56.469
over to the stairs, and she's like, come on,

00:59:56.550 --> 00:59:59.070
come on. And then Jess was talking about her,

00:59:59.150 --> 01:00:04.039
like, dumb jacket. yes okay so here's the thing

01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.920
i liked everything about jessel in this episode

01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:10.059
until that very last bit where she's like ding

01:00:10.059 --> 01:00:13.119
dong the bitch is gone i was like that was too

01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:17.019
much stop you liked her weird little confessional

01:00:17.019 --> 01:00:20.019
look with the fringe and the bad wig with the

01:00:20.019 --> 01:00:23.750
bangs Yeah, that was a bit much. The Vicky Bangs.

01:00:23.869 --> 01:00:27.309
I don't consider confessional looks to be part

01:00:27.309 --> 01:00:29.670
of what I like and dislike about housewives.

01:00:29.670 --> 01:00:32.130
That's a completely separate thing. We'll leave

01:00:32.130 --> 01:00:34.329
it alone. Because I feel like I also put somewhere

01:00:34.329 --> 01:00:36.389
else in my notes. I couldn't tell if I loved

01:00:36.389 --> 01:00:41.849
or hated Aaron's confessional look. The confessional

01:00:41.849 --> 01:00:48.539
look in general. Not even just New York. Why

01:00:48.539 --> 01:00:55.460
are we being avant -garde to sit down? I've thought

01:00:55.460 --> 01:00:57.760
this for years and I'm glad we're bringing it

01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:01.780
up. What are we doing with those? We're doing

01:01:01.780 --> 01:01:05.340
Erika Jayne because she started it. There's before

01:01:05.340 --> 01:01:08.039
Erika Jayne and there's after Erika Jayne. That

01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:13.360
sits well in my heart. It's her, it's Bronwyn,

01:01:13.460 --> 01:01:18.199
Newport, it's them. like chanel ion can get away

01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.960
with it uh uba could get away with it but like

01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:25.860
the rest of them i'm like babe just like it's

01:01:25.860 --> 01:01:29.119
it's either that or it's kelly and her plain

01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:33.699
white t -shirt i think about that a lot too where

01:01:33.699 --> 01:01:36.440
i'm like babe you're not beating the allegations

01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:41.780
of being poor yeah it's always just giving either

01:01:41.780 --> 01:01:47.809
i'm going to prom or high fashion avant -garde

01:01:47.809 --> 01:01:52.090
couture. And it's like, I'm so confused by your

01:01:52.090 --> 01:01:56.769
headpiece. You're talking about the tea that

01:01:56.769 --> 01:02:00.949
went on with your friends. Well, so it's too

01:02:00.949 --> 01:02:04.530
editorial sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, it's that element.

01:02:04.630 --> 01:02:07.630
And it's like, I feel like, like Erika Jayne,

01:02:07.690 --> 01:02:09.349
we're going to remove completely from this. And

01:02:09.349 --> 01:02:10.809
the same thing with Bronwyn, because I think

01:02:10.809 --> 01:02:12.989
they have like whole teams putting together confessional

01:02:12.989 --> 01:02:16.639
looks. There are some, like Karen Huger is a

01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:18.159
perfect example where she's like, this is going

01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:21.460
to look so cunt. And she pulls it out. She does

01:02:21.460 --> 01:02:24.900
the whole thing. And I don't think they think

01:02:24.900 --> 01:02:26.699
to themselves, oh, this doesn't translate well

01:02:26.699 --> 01:02:31.920
on camera the way it does on a red carpet. Potomac

01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:36.079
is the big sinner for me because it's Karen.

01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:44.099
It's Ashley. It's, what was her? Wendy. Wendy.

01:02:44.420 --> 01:02:50.380
All of them. What are they doing? They're doing

01:02:50.380 --> 01:02:56.440
bad. Sorry. Go ahead. I was just going to say,

01:02:56.539 --> 01:03:00.159
but then you go to Rhode Island and they all

01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.260
look like they're going to prom all the time.

01:03:03.539 --> 01:03:11.039
And I'm like, why can't we just be fashion casual?

01:03:12.829 --> 01:03:15.829
I think, like, we have come so far with Housewives

01:03:15.829 --> 01:03:18.489
where we expect so much from, like, some of the,

01:03:18.510 --> 01:03:20.250
like, reunion looks. Because I don't know if

01:03:20.250 --> 01:03:22.389
you guys remember the very first Atlanta reunion

01:03:22.389 --> 01:03:24.730
where NeNe was literally in jeans in that reunion.

01:03:24.969 --> 01:03:27.389
I think about that a lot. Like, where they were

01:03:27.389 --> 01:03:30.510
all, like, on a soundstage. And it's Sharae in

01:03:30.510 --> 01:03:33.650
leggings. It's NeNe in jeans. And it's Andy Cohen,

01:03:33.829 --> 01:03:36.969
like, with his weird, like, curly hair back when

01:03:36.969 --> 01:03:41.480
it was still curly. it's like we've come so far

01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:43.679
and it's like I think it's like they keep needing

01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:45.880
to raise the bar and I'm like babe I don't think

01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.440
you know where the bar is sometimes we've lost

01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:53.480
the bar where's the bar why is your shoulder

01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:57.000
up to here and the other one's down here and

01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:58.980
do you know what for some reason the reunion

01:03:58.980 --> 01:04:05.500
looks typically for me don't make me gag As much

01:04:05.500 --> 01:04:08.420
as the confessionals, like, I don't know what

01:04:08.420 --> 01:04:12.420
the difference is, but for me, I'm like, girl,

01:04:12.500 --> 01:04:17.219
we're only seeing you from here up. Yeah. Well,

01:04:17.300 --> 01:04:19.300
there's a disconnect. You mentioned that because

01:04:19.300 --> 01:04:22.219
they've talked about like how they'll show up

01:04:22.219 --> 01:04:24.679
like in the dress and then sweatpants on the

01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:26.619
bottom. Like they've like, cause they've shown

01:04:26.619 --> 01:04:31.539
it before. And I'm like, yeah, I don't know.

01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:34.579
I, but yeah, it's. some of it's embarrassing

01:04:34.579 --> 01:04:38.420
but but yeah it was bad in this in this too but

01:04:38.420 --> 01:04:41.800
potomac's definitely the worst i'm just using

01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:47.559
the opportunity to talk about it um but yeah

01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:49.380
so that was the end of it and then we get the

01:04:49.380 --> 01:04:54.360
season preview and i feel like roni is back like

01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:56.579
this is gonna and like i feel like they're making

01:04:56.579 --> 01:04:58.840
up for the sins of their west coast counterparts

01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:05.340
because i have to tell you oh yeah i This last

01:05:05.340 --> 01:05:09.599
episode of Orange County with Vicky freaking

01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.760
out was actually something to behold. It was

01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:15.480
actually entertaining. It was the first thing

01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:18.280
they've done all season. Episode 10 got good.

01:05:19.619 --> 01:05:25.559
The entire fight revolved around, I haven't even

01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:27.559
watched it yet, but I've seen it on TikTok, where

01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:29.800
the entire fight revolved around talking about

01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:31.719
the boyfriend not wanting to be on the show.

01:05:32.769 --> 01:05:36.550
her not sharing things. It's just Vicky being

01:05:36.550 --> 01:05:38.530
entitled to like, oh, I'm not going to talk about

01:05:38.530 --> 01:05:41.769
that. And it's like, lady, you're on a show where

01:05:41.769 --> 01:05:43.730
you're literally being paid to talk about that.

01:05:43.929 --> 01:05:47.650
And it's just the disconnect of she wants to

01:05:47.650 --> 01:05:49.409
be treated special, but when other people ask

01:05:49.409 --> 01:05:51.230
for the same treatment, she refuses to do it.

01:05:51.309 --> 01:05:55.210
It's like, just the entitlement just blows my

01:05:55.210 --> 01:05:57.630
goddamn mind. Scott, let's play the quiet game.

01:05:57.889 --> 01:06:01.179
Okay, let's play the quiet game. i would i'm

01:06:01.179 --> 01:06:06.239
telling you right now if i were carmella or emily

01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:08.579
or whoever i don't i have no idea who she said

01:06:08.579 --> 01:06:10.460
it to i would have swung on vicky i'm not kidding

01:06:10.460 --> 01:06:13.699
like that for me is a trigger when it's like

01:06:13.699 --> 01:06:15.639
you're i don't need to talk anymore i think that

01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:17.659
is the most disgusting thing someone can say

01:06:17.659 --> 01:06:20.980
oh i would have been so mean i would have been

01:06:20.980 --> 01:06:23.960
like oh you're gonna act like my mom do you really

01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:29.280
want to highlight the age disparity yes and it's

01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:32.019
like I am so sick and tired of Vicky talking

01:06:32.019 --> 01:06:33.900
about how she started this franchise and how

01:06:33.900 --> 01:06:36.840
she's the OG of the OC. And I'm like, do you

01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:41.239
understand that everyone on TikTok, on Instagram,

01:06:41.460 --> 01:06:44.440
that has a podcast, like any Bravo crew, everyone

01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:47.420
hates you. And I am so sick and tired of you.

01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:49.760
Like, I'm telling you, and like the Bravo bros,

01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:52.000
I know that they have a tendency to like dog

01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.539
on Beverly Hills and Orange County. But I'm like,

01:06:54.579 --> 01:06:59.440
I have never heard people talk about Vicky. like

01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:02.860
outside of the brav bros this way but i'm like

01:07:02.860 --> 01:07:06.320
everyone agrees you are trash you are white trash

01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:10.880
and everyone hates you i think she yeah i think

01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:12.739
she should have stayed away to maintain that

01:07:12.739 --> 01:07:16.400
legacy of like the og the oc because to see her

01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:20.239
in action on both girls trip and oc it's like

01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:24.619
any sort of like love you might have had her

01:07:24.619 --> 01:07:29.300
or or Good will just goes out the window. Yeah.

01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:33.679
Yeah. Yeah. That producer friend you like to

01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:36.840
follow on Twitter, Jeff, he talks about how basically

01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:40.559
filming with Vicky and working with her, even

01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:43.099
during, he said they worked together when she

01:07:43.099 --> 01:07:45.340
was just the, made those cameos like in season

01:07:45.340 --> 01:07:49.179
17. Yes. He was saying that she's just one walking

01:07:49.179 --> 01:07:52.539
vocal stem. She's just like, the whole time.

01:07:52.699 --> 01:07:54.340
Don't do that. Don't say that. I started the

01:07:54.340 --> 01:07:58.679
show. I started the show. OJOC. Yeah. She's soundbite.

01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:02.880
People at restaurants talk about how, or like

01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:04.760
people talk about like they, they saw her at

01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:08.269
a restaurant and. that's all she will talk about

01:08:08.269 --> 01:08:11.090
to like random people like that do not like don't

01:08:11.090 --> 01:08:13.590
care it's like well i started this show and they're

01:08:13.590 --> 01:08:15.869
like okay what what do you want off the menu

01:08:15.869 --> 01:08:19.449
like she's upset like that's her entire personality

01:08:19.449 --> 01:08:22.329
and it's the same way with shannon where d also

01:08:22.329 --> 01:08:24.909
did you hear this story and like kelly dodd of

01:08:24.909 --> 01:08:27.430
all people i'm so shocked that like i align with

01:08:27.430 --> 01:08:29.069
her on this but kelly dodd was talking about

01:08:29.069 --> 01:08:31.869
how shannon bedore and uh andy cohen went out

01:08:31.869 --> 01:08:34.270
to dinner somewhere and like she accosted the

01:08:34.270 --> 01:08:36.979
wait staff i think at the quiet woman for not

01:08:36.979 --> 01:08:40.140
comping her meal yeah yeah it was recently yeah

01:08:40.140 --> 01:08:44.220
can you imagine like being that entitled like

01:08:44.220 --> 01:08:47.800
to say i i've been to this restaurant and i've

01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:51.340
screamed it uh kelly dot across this table i

01:08:51.340 --> 01:08:55.500
deserve a free meal here like the cognitive dissonance

01:08:55.500 --> 01:08:58.579
for me is bizarre it's like she is too quiet

01:08:58.579 --> 01:09:01.960
woman as vicky as is too on delays like i i made

01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:06.409
you no we were perfectly fine without you thanks

01:09:06.409 --> 01:09:11.189
anyway the audacity of these white women who

01:09:11.189 --> 01:09:15.489
would have thought and it's like i have to be

01:09:15.489 --> 01:09:18.189
honest i can be so forgiving of a lot of things

01:09:18.189 --> 01:09:20.250
with like white women on the real housewives

01:09:20.250 --> 01:09:22.350
but like orange county they they just haven't

01:09:22.350 --> 01:09:29.960
come in sometimes i gotta tell you yeah honestly

01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:32.939
but all that being said um i have i'm gonna have

01:09:32.939 --> 01:09:36.479
so much to cut out of this episode but look um

01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:38.979
i asked the same thing on every premiere that

01:09:38.979 --> 01:09:41.619
we've done together who would you want to be

01:09:41.619 --> 01:09:44.720
friends with on this cast and i i honestly would

01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:46.699
have a hard time choosing for this one so i want

01:09:46.699 --> 01:09:51.600
to hear what everyone else thinks sorry go ahead

01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:54.460
there you go I was going to say there's one that

01:09:54.460 --> 01:09:57.579
reminds me of me in several ways. Can you guess

01:09:57.579 --> 01:10:01.840
which one I'm referring to? Haley. That's what

01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:06.460
I was going to say. Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait

01:10:06.460 --> 01:10:08.239
until Kenny finds out that you're dating a woman.

01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:17.039
No. Where's your pita tear? Guys, are you late

01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:18.779
to going over to your other house tonight? Is

01:10:18.779 --> 01:10:22.899
that where you need to go? It's actually none

01:10:22.899 --> 01:10:29.159
of your business. No, I'm going to hers. No,

01:10:29.220 --> 01:10:32.399
but pretty much like five minutes into her introduction,

01:10:32.619 --> 01:10:40.340
I was like, oh, she's me. I would choose Psy.

01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:42.079
I know it's a little predictable and boring,

01:10:42.220 --> 01:10:44.479
but Psy. I think I'd want to hang out with Psy.

01:10:45.220 --> 01:10:50.680
I'd say the same, Psy. I think I'd want to be

01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:53.670
friends with Erica. Just from the little bit

01:10:53.670 --> 01:10:56.930
we got with her, I think she seems fun. Fun and

01:10:56.930 --> 01:11:04.109
cool. Yes. I could see Daisy too. Daisy, yes.

01:11:04.750 --> 01:11:08.949
Yeah. She seems like you would never run out

01:11:08.949 --> 01:11:10.670
of things to talk about. You know what I mean?

01:11:10.890 --> 01:11:13.430
You also have the opportunity to meet Martha

01:11:13.430 --> 01:11:14.770
Stewart. I take it back. I want to be friends

01:11:14.770 --> 01:11:22.739
with Daisy, actually. Farewell, friend. I'm an

01:11:22.739 --> 01:11:27.899
opportunist. What do you want? Also, do you know

01:11:27.899 --> 01:11:30.760
what else I was just thinking about? And this

01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:35.939
is completely separate from New York. Our premieres

01:11:35.939 --> 01:11:38.359
have come full circle because Salt Lake City

01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:41.699
was the first one we ever did together. And I

01:11:41.699 --> 01:11:44.680
can't wait to do it with you guys again. Was

01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:46.920
that the first one? Yeah, that was our first

01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:51.619
one. Oh. I think I was still pregnant for that.

01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:54.460
You were absolutely still pregnant. It was, like,

01:11:54.500 --> 01:11:56.399
one of the very early, early episodes we did.

01:11:56.439 --> 01:11:59.779
We were still audio only. I was, like, recording

01:11:59.779 --> 01:12:03.500
in the, like, in the, like, study rooms at IU

01:12:03.500 --> 01:12:09.739
Indy. Oh, right. I, like, I think it's really

01:12:09.739 --> 01:12:12.560
cool to see, like, how far, and I'm, like, or

01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:15.220
how far we've come in, like, production quality,

01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:18.180
one, but two. i love that we've done every premiere

01:12:18.180 --> 01:12:21.819
with you guys i think that this is like my favorite

01:12:21.819 --> 01:12:25.180
tradition on the podcast no it's a fun one for

01:12:25.180 --> 01:12:28.579
sure it actually is so like the one thing that's

01:12:28.579 --> 01:12:31.239
weird for us to get used to is like being like

01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:34.060
so many voices but i like that we finally can't

01:12:34.060 --> 01:12:36.060
found a way to get over it with like no no you

01:12:36.060 --> 01:12:39.260
go no no no you go like it's just gonna have

01:12:39.260 --> 01:12:41.119
to be a thing these things are hard to do over

01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:43.199
you know with multiple you know people talking

01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:45.760
but you can sort it all out later you're a master

01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:50.840
editor it's i've gotten so good at it so i know

01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:53.539
i this has been very cool and i love this um

01:12:53.539 --> 01:12:59.020
but all that being said from san francisco to

01:12:59.020 --> 01:13:04.800
indy to the upper east side of manhattan to bushwick

01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:08.760
where i just moved out of we love you thank you

01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:10.479
for listening thank you for being here and we'll

01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:15.779
see you next time till next time bye where's

01:13:15.779 --> 01:13:20.779
my goddamn mouse there we go