your husband’s a slut | RHORI reunion (part 1) with Lauren from Conspireality.

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um hi i'm travis i'm emma and this is bestie

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approved and we're hanging out with our friend

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lauren today from the conspiracy conspiracy podcast

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i feel like i have such a hard time saying that

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but um we connected on tiktok just like everyone

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else i've ever had on this show and um i I want

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you to tell our audience about your show, but

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I genuinely love your show. Please tell us about

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what your vibe is and how you got here. Yeah,

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we're just two best friends, and we're yapping

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about Bravo, as we all do. And then also conspiracy

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theories, which we started when conspiracy theories

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were a little bit more like... Super political,

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a little bit weird. Now conspiracy theories to

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me are just like gossip. And we feel we're just

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gossiping about world events and trying to make

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people aware. Tomorrow, by the way, there should

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be an alien encounter. If the psychic in Brazil

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was right. Yeah. At the Miami match. So say,

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say your goodbyes now tonight, but yeah. So anyway,

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I mean, conspiracy theories to me are part of

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pop culture. So we've woven them in. I've always

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loved conspiracy theories. I don't know if you

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know that about me, but like ever since high

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school, I've been watching like Kendall Ray videos

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about conspiracy theories and all of that stuff.

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I love them. Yeah, that's great. I think they're

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becoming more and more prevalent. So I'm happy

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that we trademarked when we did. That's the one

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thing flat earthers have done for society is

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make conspiracy theories. Emma I totally agree

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like thank you speaking of flat earthers have

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I ever told you about my aunt who like fully

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isn't sure if the earth is flat or not because

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in the bible somewhere it says the four corners

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of the earth and I'm like okay okay thank you

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girl get in an airplane there was a show that

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was gonna allow I think it was somebody who was

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paying a group of people to flat earthers to

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go basically say if the earth was real or not.

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They paid him $50 ,000 to get on a boat and go

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explore if the earth was flat. I never heard

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the results of it, but can you imagine getting

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to the end of that and being like, wow. They

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make it to Antarctica and there's no more. There

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should be a ledge right here. There should be

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a cliff, I think. Jesus. Like a bunch of Christopher

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Columbuses out there. Yeah. Lost. We'll get,

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we'll get into it. Um, so Lauren, something we

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ask everyone that comes on the podcast, uh, we

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start every show like this. What is the last

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song you listened to? Yeah, I was thinking about

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that. Um, it's not really a song, but it's more

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of a track jack jams. I'm like back in that area.

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I think it's because I have a child. So I find

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that the, you know, the music is safe for children,

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but also just like nineties are back. And I,

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I need the nineties nostalgia and magic to like

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fuel me when I'm working out. So I'm doing a

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lot of Jack jams, which is very embarrassing,

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but it's the best thing I could think of. I love

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that. Emma, what was your last song? I wish I

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wish it were something good but I've been honest

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every single time we've done these I've been

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honest and the honest truth is that it was one

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dance okay Travis if you don't know what I'm

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talking about I don't know how to help you like

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by Drake one dance okay okay you know what if

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you like it i love it that's where it was emma

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i love how you're like saying that as a confessional

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like gotta be honest not proud of it man enough

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to say it um i don't know if i'm proud of this

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one actually um hypnotico by jennifer lopez and

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like every time i listen to it i think back to

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when i worked at hollister and i was super into

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this song in 2012 and one of the gay guys that

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worked in the stock room came up to me and he

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was like you know she stole this from someone

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else and i was like i don't care like let me

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yeah it's a good song um but what'd you say sorry

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it was stupid don't worry about it it was about

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j -lo No, please say it because I have a lot

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of thoughts. Every time the weather hits like

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80 degrees, I forgive her for all of her travesties.

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Did you ever watch that documentary she did where

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she was like, I'm going to mess up my hair because

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that's what we do in the Bronx. And I was like,

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Jennifer. That's how we do it in the Bronx. You

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went to Juilliard. Hi, Jenny from the vlog. Right.

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oh my god and then she there's like the song

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with was it fat joe that she said the n -word

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in but like it wasn't actually her singing it

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i didn't even know it was it was nicole scherzinger

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oh my god what i thought it was uh i'm pretty

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sure i'm like almost positive that's who it was

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yeah oh well after recent events i don't think

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she can say that she doesn't get the pass anyway

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before we get canceled um so we so i mean i don't

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know what you put on your list lauren but i i

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you saw the notes that i take like an insane

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person so like do you have anything else that's

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not on my list before we go for real housewives

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or for anything oh no i love the list i'm i'm

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good with the list um i have a lot of thoughts

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on rhode island okay cool yeah um I have a couple

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of other things before we dive into Rhode Island.

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And I went back and forth about talking about

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this one, but I didn't want to let it die. So,

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Lauren, did you watch the original Real Housewives

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of New York? Oh, yeah. And Travis, I know exactly

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where you're going on this. I have so many thoughts.

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Like, 100%. I grew up on those ladies. Same.

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Like, those women, and I say this all the time,

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those women raised me. I will tell you, before

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we get into what I want to get into here, how

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did you feel about the recast? What are your

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thoughts there? The most recent announcement

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that we've seen? No, no, no. So when they completely

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got rid of everyone, they recast the entire show

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two years ago. How did you feel about that? It

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should have been good. It should have been good.

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But they were too aware of the camera and the

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clout. To me, it... they were too aware of how

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things were looking. It's just this younger generation.

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They're not the old women who are like drinking

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themselves into the, onto the table, you know,

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red wine, right? Like, it's like, they're too

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worried about everything. And it felt like it

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came through on screen. I, I, I didn't love any

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single one of them. I, you know, and Bryn, that

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whole thing with Bryn Travis, I was just like,

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this is too dark. I don't tune in to watch this

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level of dark. so i'm gonna be super emma did

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you watch the that the new real housewives of

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new york when they recast it and it was like

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all new women no not really okay so actually

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did you know this so the girl that that we're

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talking about brin she went to iu and she was

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down at iu the same time i was down there so

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like did you go with her you went with her to

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college i mean like we were at the same we were

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it's a big university um but yeah she was in

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like a like a biology program and i was in kelly

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so like we never went across paths kelly means

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nothing oh i'm sorry i just assume everyone knows

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what kelly is see i went to i was in the business

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school she was in a science school so um we never

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went across paths but yeah we were at iu at the

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same time but um they were best friends if i

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were you Not after what went down. Seriously,

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but drop the tea, Travis. Was she always as thin

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as what she is now? I know we crossed paths on

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Instagram at one point when it was still brand

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new. She's always been very, very, very pretty.

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She's beautiful. I think she's beautiful, yeah.

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What went down with her at the end? The long

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and short of it for Emma and anyone that doesn't

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know, I guess at the end of the last season the

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most recent season of New York and like I don't

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know if I fully understand what went down but

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like she said that she told Uba that she had

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been sexually assaulted and I I guess was she

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saying Uba wasn't like taking it seriously I

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guess I don't understand why Uba melted down

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the way she did because like I'm still having

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trouble with that yeah there's implication I

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think that Bryn had told Uba and then Uba had

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said some offensive things or was making jokes

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about it and Bryn was really taking offense to

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it and then And then Uba lost her mind because

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she realized again on national TV that she didn't

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want to have this image of somebody who is making

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offensive jokes. And Brynn reveals off camera

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to all the women that she doesn't remember actually

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telling Uba what happened or something along

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those lines. And so Brynn admits off camera that

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she actually didn't tell Uba and Uba wasn't a

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liar and isn't this like, you know, super dark

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figure who makes fun of sexual assault. And that's

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kind of where it landed or ended. It was, I mean,

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it was like the weirdest thing. That, it did

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end very weird. Okay, so that, I guess that makes

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so much more sense now that you're saying that

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because I was like, I just thought they were

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fighting. Like, I didn't understand what they

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were fighting about. But this group of women,

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I did like the group of women because I felt

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like it was more representative of New York.

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It was not. ramona singer and luanne deliseps

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who i i'm gonna be honest i used to really really

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love luanne and i don't know what happened to

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her like i i like when she was messy i like when

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she got arrested for telling the cop that she

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was gonna kill him i like all of that i i don't

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i don't know what happened to her that like something

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shifted where she's not the same person that

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we fell in love with i the the situation with

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sonia morgan i think got sad to watch at a certain

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point because i was like oh we're watching a

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woman like who can't keep the wheels on and then

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like like durin always having her blow -ups even

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though i loved her into medley like there was

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like that show needed to be recast and like i

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think i'm going to be saying the exact same thing

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about orange county now that vicky's back on

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because yes i agree i agree um what year was

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this about like it was last year yeah like yeah

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it was like within the last year and a half that's

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what i thought okay okay and travis let's be

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clear during it was an alcoholic like fully an

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alcoholic i think sonia was too i think luann

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was and went to jail for it and came out every

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single one of them had a drinking problem but

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this is the thing is like this is this is new

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york like that people just have drinking problems

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and like that like that it's so common in new

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york i'm so serious but like if you can keep

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it together and you can have fun it's great but

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like i i mean the thing that i kept coming back

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to with like the old crew was the way they treated

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tensley there at the end where she was young

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she was pretty and she was gonna get bullied

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within an inch of her life to the point where

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she just left the show and like i like it's where

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i'm not interested in watching it anymore um

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so i'm i did like the recast but um the all that

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to say Carol Radziwill is coming back as a friend

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of this coming season. And this is all in the

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wake of the Epstein files partially being released.

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I don't have time to get into like that whole

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situation today because I'm still mad about that.

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Carol Roswell is coming back as a friend of,

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and so she's not holding an apple. She's not,

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she doesn't have a tagline, but apparently she

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was in every single episode because they wrapped

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filming, but they're still doing confessionals

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at this point. And this is also in the wake of

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finding out that she used to be. I don't know

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how close they were, but if you Google Carol

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Radziwill, Ghislaine Maxwell, there's 20 pictures

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of them together on Getty Images. It's the first

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thing that comes up. So they were close at one

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point. They were friends, and Ghislaine Maxwell

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actually took the headshot that was in the front

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of Carol's book that she wrote about her husband

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that passed. I feel very conflicted about this.

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So like, just as a baseline right now, how are

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we feeling about someone who's named in the Epstein

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files being on Real Housewives in a leading role?

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Not a leading role, but a supporting role. So

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I totally agree with everything Travis was saying.

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Carol, by the way, she also, I think, had some

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comments that she would never return as a Real

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Housewife. I think this is a very obvious play

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in Bravo production to try and bring back some

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of the OGs. As you guys know, they can't bring

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back Luann, Romero, Sonia, Jill Zarin, right?

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Because all of them went to a new network. Well,

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Jill Zarin got fired. Oh, they got fired. Jill

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Zarin got fired. But did you see Travis said

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they all signed with a new network. They took

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their show and they basically went to a new network.

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So Carol was the only one that didn't do that.

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To me, this feels like a very empty gesture to

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try and infuse the old magic. And so who was

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left? Carol. Carol was left. I think it's despicable

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to give people platforms that are like in or

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related to the Epstein file. And here's the thing.

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So like I did a fairly deep dive on this. So

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she spoke to the New York Times and she said

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like, yeah, I'm going back to Real Housewives.

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And I like it's kind of scary to do something

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that like is such a I was such a big part of.

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And I was like, no, you weren't. First of all,

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like I. do not like think of any season and think

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of like oh yeah that was carol's season i'll

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start there but no um no no um but she did i

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mean she did you know acknowledge the fact in

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the new york times interview that she um was

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friends with her for the first half of the early

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2000s um they they ran around together they went

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to parties together she also says that she never

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directly met jeffrey epstein but she like was

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in the same rooms as him at times because they

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ran in the same social circles i mean and i mean

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she married into the kennedy family so like i'll

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buy that but like and i'm i also do want to acknowledge

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i don't think that just because carol radziwill

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is named in the epstein files as as just a name

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and she was friends with elaine maxwell she says

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she has she had no idea that anything was going

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on which maybe but Like, I don't think that just

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the association immediately makes her guilty.

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The thing that I'm having an issue with, though,

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is Sai Da Silva, one of the new housewives, would

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not let up off of her. I mean, that's what she

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talked about, like, in an interview with TMZ,

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where she said, yeah, like, I felt like I needed

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to talk about it because I have children and

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this is important. So I'm going to say I'm very

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proud of Sai for doing that. I think Carol owes

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it to the platform, to the group of women that

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she's interacting with to say, hey, I didn't

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know. I hate that this happened. And, like, how

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do we go from here to get to a place where you

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can trust me? But, like, Carol's not going to

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do that because Carol sucks. Like, she just sucks.

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Sucks. Sucks. Yeah, Emma, you go. I didn't mean

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to cut you off. She's already mine, right? She's

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already lying. You're at a party with your friend

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and her boyfriend, fiance, husband, whatever,

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and you're going to tell me you never met him

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directly. In what world is that true? That can't

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be true. I would understand if they were in the

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same circles and ended up at the same party but

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didn't have a common connection. I would maybe

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give her the benefit of the doubt. But you're

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going to tell me, right? Your friend comes in.

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with her couple you're at a party together and

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she never once introduced me to this man really

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that i don't believe you at all you know i would

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buy this more from luanne because of who her

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husband was and like i i would buy that from

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her but she wasn't yeah like i i i didn't even

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think about that emma you're probably you might

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be right i don't know like i i just i don't want

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to like Well, you guys, I also saw, I mean, I

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was the one who did some of the, I looked at

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some of the emails. You know, you went to the

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Gmail. That was Jeffrey Epstein's email. And

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I actually looked at Carol Radswell to see what

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came up. There was emails back and forth between

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her, Jeffrey, and Galena. And they were talking

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about something very benign, like how to get

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off. You know, when people used to call you and

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say, how do you get off the list? Like the do

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not call list. Like, don't call me again. Put

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me on the do not. They were talking about how

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to get on. that list but it was a three of them

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talking about it in an email so she's I mean

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this is Emma to your point like it's a lie I

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yeah you're gonna tell me you don't know who

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that is but you have his email address and the

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even to go back one step further Jeffrey and

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Ghislaine were very obsessed with Carol's mother

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Lee Radswell who is considered this like extremely

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dynamic socialite and Ghislaine in emails with

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Jeffrey was constantly trying to get the mom

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to come out to one of Jeffrey's like at restaurants

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where he would invite people and they would share

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thoughts. And I don't think Lee cared one way

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or the other. She would be in or out. It was

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very flippant in how they were talking about

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if she was coming or not. But I think Carol then

00:19:05.650 --> 00:19:09.230
got pushed into that mix because of their obsession

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with her mom. That makes me so uncomfortable,

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though, because they talked in code. You remember

00:19:16.250 --> 00:19:20.230
the actual malicious emails. They were all talking

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in code. Were they actually talking about a DMC

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list? How are we supposed to know? You know what

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I mean? Even if she's completely innocent, she

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is always going to be filthy rich. She has family

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money. She has married money. She has all of

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the money. She doesn't need to be on a platform

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anymore. Sorry, you associated with the wrong

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people. I'm going to be really honest. I think

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what carol is trying to do this time is be like

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someone without bethany frankl because i mean

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they were best friends at one point on the show

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until until they fell out and like i i'm i'm

00:20:06.309 --> 00:20:08.890
being so serious i cannot think of any instance

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where carol did something that aside from like

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running that marathon that was her entire personality

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for a season but like i can't think of anything

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where i was like wow she's just she is aspirational

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and she's like one of these women that you really

00:20:22.009 --> 00:20:23.710
want to be on the show and that sucks because

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there's a lot like there's a lot there with like

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the the kennedys the i mean she she was married

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moved to london like she was a newscaster she

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did a lot i hate that she couldn't just say to

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cy hey you're right i we have to figure this

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out and like we have to be able to put that part

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of history behind us i i don't know i don't know

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but i totally agree travis you should be good

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tv is like there should be such like an iconic

00:20:48.710 --> 00:20:52.789
nature to her and it's just yeah i remember when

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that marathon was her whole the marathon was

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her whole personality the ghostwriter when she

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dated that young chef it's just so it's so tacky

00:21:01.210 --> 00:21:05.069
some of our story like that i also think back

00:21:05.069 --> 00:21:09.369
to that that relationship with adam um where

00:21:09.369 --> 00:21:13.049
i mean you realize that was luann's uh niece's

00:21:13.049 --> 00:21:15.410
boyfriend that they had just broken up with he

00:21:15.410 --> 00:21:18.769
was still cooking for luann i was just like ew

00:21:18.769 --> 00:21:23.049
i get why luann hated her it was super weird

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and messy and then i think if that storyline

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played now we would have a lot more thoughts

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about it back then it was like oh yeah it was

00:21:30.210 --> 00:21:33.329
just like a little bit like okay weird got it

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carol must be a dynamo in the bedroom Oh, I bet

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he was. He just looked like he fucked. Do you

00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:49.779
ever feel like Carol Radziwill desperately wanted

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to be Carrie Bradshaw? Yes. Oh, Papa Travis plays

00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:57.640
on her vision board in the back of her closet,

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like, you know, looking out the window saying,

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I have three good summers left. Remember that

00:22:02.299 --> 00:22:04.380
line? I'm like, well, we've used all of them.

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So now why are we back on TV? Baby, I don't know

00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.259
that you ever had a good summer in you, but there's

00:22:10.259 --> 00:22:15.259
that. So moving on to the rest of what Bravo

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is giving us. I feel like we're getting a lot

00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:22.740
from Bravo right now that like I don't feel like

00:22:22.740 --> 00:22:25.119
we're consistently getting this much all the

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time. So we just came out of the strongest first

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season of any city of Real Housewives that we've

00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.900
ever seen anywhere. And then we also have, and

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I'm going to be 100 % honest, I have not watched

00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:44.720
any but one of these shows. We've got Below Deck

00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.359
Mediterranean. We've got McBee Dynasty. We've

00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:49.519
got In the City. We've got The Valley. And we've

00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:53.240
got Next Gen NYC. And, like, I don't ever see

00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:54.940
anything but incredible things about all those

00:22:54.940 --> 00:22:57.779
shows online. So are you watching any of those

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right now, Lauren? Next Gen is very good. It's

00:23:01.049 --> 00:23:04.150
very Gossip Girl. It's like you like kind of

00:23:04.150 --> 00:23:06.369
the private school, boarding school, a little

00:23:06.369 --> 00:23:08.289
bit older than that, of course, but vibes like

00:23:08.289 --> 00:23:12.269
that. That's good. It's the daughters and sons

00:23:12.269 --> 00:23:14.430
of a lot of the Real Housewives. It has very

00:23:14.430 --> 00:23:16.970
much like going off to college and then all of

00:23:16.970 --> 00:23:19.049
a sudden like you see your parent. You'll see

00:23:19.049 --> 00:23:22.690
Brooks's mom. What is her name on Salt Lake?

00:23:22.990 --> 00:23:24.690
Meredith, thank you. You'll see Meredith popping.

00:23:24.769 --> 00:23:27.490
You'll see Kim popping. You're like, oh my God,

00:23:27.509 --> 00:23:30.119
Meredith and Seth. you know and they'll pop in

00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:32.819
to visit their kids in new york i those are the

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parts i love the the plot lines are definitely

00:23:35.900 --> 00:23:39.200
made for tv i would say but it's a good group

00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:41.619
of fresh face like kids who know what they're

00:23:41.619 --> 00:23:45.539
doing on the show can i be so honest with you

00:23:45.539 --> 00:23:47.880
and like i'm going to get flack for saying this

00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:54.839
theresa's daughter is on that show and i am tired

00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:59.349
of like Teresa and Louie and Gia and Melania

00:23:59.349 --> 00:24:01.609
and whatever the other one's name is. Like, I

00:24:01.609 --> 00:24:04.710
don't know that I need them. Well, and then there's,

00:24:04.710 --> 00:24:08.309
there's, I agree with you, Travis. I think Gia

00:24:08.309 --> 00:24:11.450
is, Gia is not a pillar only because she lives

00:24:11.450 --> 00:24:13.329
in New Jersey on that show. So she has to commute

00:24:13.329 --> 00:24:16.190
in. So she's openly like, I'm not coming to that.

00:24:16.289 --> 00:24:19.609
I'm not, I'm not braving the traffic. So she's

00:24:19.609 --> 00:24:23.319
not like a main protagonist, I would say. I think

00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.720
her name is Ariana Bierman. Kim's daughter is

00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.299
the main character, I would say, as well as Candy

00:24:29.299 --> 00:24:34.359
Burris' daughter. Okay. But they're a good time.

00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:36.299
They know, let me say it like this, they know

00:24:36.299 --> 00:24:38.900
what needs to happen to make good TV because

00:24:38.900 --> 00:24:40.839
they've watched their parents. So if anything,

00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.680
you know Gia, you give Gia props in that way.

00:24:43.740 --> 00:24:45.980
Like she knows what it takes to make like a dramatic

00:24:45.980 --> 00:24:52.349
season. I bet she does. Yay! i and i feel bad

00:24:52.349 --> 00:24:54.230
and like i think i've come to this point like

00:24:54.230 --> 00:24:55.769
like i was talking about with like luann and

00:24:55.769 --> 00:24:58.509
ramona and everyone where i you couldn't tell

00:24:58.509 --> 00:25:01.569
me theresa judice was not like god's gift to

00:25:01.569 --> 00:25:06.029
italians in reality tv in like 2009. right i

00:25:06.029 --> 00:25:07.470
don't know what happened to her either because

00:25:07.470 --> 00:25:09.609
like it's i think there's a jealousy thing with

00:25:09.609 --> 00:25:13.349
melissa but like I don't know. Like, I'm just

00:25:13.349 --> 00:25:16.089
like, you, you, you were so good. Like, I don't

00:25:16.089 --> 00:25:18.650
know. I don't know. It's crazy. It's like when

00:25:18.650 --> 00:25:21.210
you get too much plastic surgery and that starts

00:25:21.210 --> 00:25:22.670
off really good. And then all of a sudden it

00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:24.930
just starts to be like, like, I feel like Teresa

00:25:24.930 --> 00:25:27.549
do does his beard a little bit. And to that,

00:25:27.630 --> 00:25:31.190
like caricature type, I'm not sure where, what

00:25:31.190 --> 00:25:33.750
we are anymore. I totally agree with you. I'm

00:25:33.750 --> 00:25:36.049
done with, I'm done with New Jersey, by the way,

00:25:36.069 --> 00:25:39.029
I can't stomach it anymore. I think unless they

00:25:39.029 --> 00:25:41.430
come back with something brand new. they're not

00:25:41.430 --> 00:25:44.049
going to like that's the thing that show is as

00:25:44.049 --> 00:25:46.650
long as Teresa and Melissa and like here's the

00:25:46.650 --> 00:25:48.789
thing I really really like Melissa I um Scott

00:25:48.789 --> 00:25:50.509
and Jeff from Husbands Watching Housewives have

00:25:50.509 --> 00:25:52.589
met Melissa and they like she apparently is like

00:25:52.589 --> 00:25:54.950
just one of the kindest coolest people you'll

00:25:54.950 --> 00:25:57.970
ever meet like as long as both of them are part

00:25:57.970 --> 00:26:00.450
of that show like it is never going to get back

00:26:00.450 --> 00:26:02.730
off the ground because like they can't get out

00:26:02.730 --> 00:26:04.369
of their own way and like that sucks because

00:26:04.369 --> 00:26:08.950
I think that I think, you know, watching the

00:26:08.950 --> 00:26:11.970
messy drama is, like, fun, but I think that there's,

00:26:11.990 --> 00:26:15.950
like, a deep family wound between the Gorgas

00:26:15.950 --> 00:26:17.930
and the Judaizes that, like, they need to figure

00:26:17.930 --> 00:26:23.809
out because it's sad. It's really sad. Agreed.

00:26:23.809 --> 00:26:25.349
And it's, like, so what are we supposed to do?

00:26:25.410 --> 00:26:27.990
Watch either them fighting for the 11th billionth

00:26:27.990 --> 00:26:31.609
time or performative acting that they're back

00:26:31.609 --> 00:26:33.930
friends, you know? It's, like, which one is worse

00:26:33.930 --> 00:26:37.539
at this point? And, like... I think back to,

00:26:37.619 --> 00:26:40.880
cause I, Siggy Flicker, I think like, say what

00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:42.259
you will about her. She was a nightmare, but

00:26:42.259 --> 00:26:47.440
she was good TV. Dolores Catania, like you, that,

00:26:47.539 --> 00:26:49.720
that woman, like I would, I worship the ground

00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:53.380
she walks on. If those, if those women can't

00:26:53.380 --> 00:26:59.039
save that show, I don't know what can. Truly,

00:26:59.059 --> 00:27:02.700
truly, truly. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I love it. I

00:27:02.700 --> 00:27:05.990
totally agree with you. delores too she's the

00:27:05.990 --> 00:27:08.789
she's the link she's what made i think she's

00:27:08.789 --> 00:27:11.730
helped real housewives of rhode island i i do

00:27:11.730 --> 00:27:17.029
think she's made it feel very uh friendly very

00:27:17.029 --> 00:27:19.130
quickly like very intimate like it's like we

00:27:19.130 --> 00:27:21.069
already know these women because delores is here

00:27:21.069 --> 00:27:23.930
i like how i like when bravo does that i do too

00:27:23.930 --> 00:27:27.890
and like i do you remember the uh it was very

00:27:27.890 --> 00:27:30.150
early in the season of rhode island where they

00:27:30.150 --> 00:27:32.450
were all like on the train tracks or whatever

00:27:32.450 --> 00:27:36.569
and this i don't it was i think alicia was like

00:27:36.569 --> 00:27:38.349
getting into a knockdown drag out fight with

00:27:38.349 --> 00:27:40.589
kelsey and like they cut to dolores and like

00:27:40.589 --> 00:27:42.490
you could just see like it was a look of like

00:27:42.490 --> 00:27:45.089
this is gonna be a good show on dolores's face

00:27:45.089 --> 00:27:48.490
i think about that constantly dolores was like

00:27:48.490 --> 00:27:51.089
i feel like it was like oh damn go off let's

00:27:51.089 --> 00:27:54.410
go this cast has got it yes i totally remember

00:27:54.410 --> 00:27:59.839
that uh but um Two other quick things, and I'll

00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:02.779
put this in the show notes as well. Emma and

00:28:02.779 --> 00:28:05.359
I just finished the first season of Salt Lake

00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.559
City. We're unpacking that. So we're putting

00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.960
a poll up for the besties. And these are two

00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.859
shows that I haven't really watched at all. the

00:28:17.859 --> 00:28:20.259
third show is one that i don't know if emma's

00:28:20.259 --> 00:28:23.019
watched it all yet either but um we're gonna

00:28:23.019 --> 00:28:25.180
let you guys pick between love island season

00:28:25.180 --> 00:28:29.480
six vanderpump rules season one or emma's gonna

00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.220
pick a season of summer house if we end up watching

00:28:31.220 --> 00:28:35.640
summer house i don't know but um i i'm like excited

00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:38.859
to see what comes next because it's getting us

00:28:38.859 --> 00:28:41.839
out of our comfort zones a little bit um so yeah

00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.619
that's that poll's going up and then oh it just

00:28:45.619 --> 00:28:51.410
came off me what do you i keep trying to perfect

00:28:51.410 --> 00:28:54.869
perfect i was gonna talk about the culture awards

00:28:54.869 --> 00:29:00.349
because they were so fresh there's nothing really

00:29:00.349 --> 00:29:02.710
to say if you like bravo you'll like it it's

00:29:02.710 --> 00:29:08.029
silly goofy fun i didn't realize like that was

00:29:08.029 --> 00:29:11.289
like a real thing that they were doing like i

00:29:11.289 --> 00:29:12.990
thought it was like i thought it was a joke like

00:29:12.990 --> 00:29:18.779
because it's fun it is Some of the candidates

00:29:18.779 --> 00:29:22.819
are just jokes, and there's only one real candidate

00:29:22.819 --> 00:29:28.259
in the first place. But it's still funny and

00:29:28.259 --> 00:29:32.599
fun, and there are still people getting recognized.

00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:39.259
There's the Titan of Culture Award went to Will

00:29:39.259 --> 00:29:42.660
Ferrell, and then the Lifetime Achievement whatever

00:29:42.660 --> 00:29:46.069
went to Lisa. kudrow but before they gave it

00:29:46.069 --> 00:29:50.089
to lisa kudrow ben platt sang smelly cat like

00:29:50.089 --> 00:29:53.990
with puppeteer orchestra like it's silly and

00:29:53.990 --> 00:29:57.869
but and like for the songs of the year bowen

00:29:57.869 --> 00:30:03.849
and matt sang them oh like performed them a bunch

00:30:03.849 --> 00:30:06.390
of them and rachel zegler did one she sang fame

00:30:06.390 --> 00:30:08.710
is a gun by addison ray but in like a broadway

00:30:09.739 --> 00:30:14.039
fashion it's like very fun and fresh it's like

00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:18.140
two hours i think it's worth your time i would

00:30:18.140 --> 00:30:20.940
i can watch that also you get your candice dillard

00:30:20.940 --> 00:30:26.319
basset on tv fix so oh okay okay yeah i'll watch

00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:31.319
it um also emma this do you remember when we

00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.599
were talking about this is one year ago when

00:30:34.539 --> 00:30:36.819
we were talking about the the culture awards

00:30:36.819 --> 00:30:40.099
and the mom from freaky friday like i thought

00:30:40.099 --> 00:30:41.660
it was so funny that she came up and like told

00:30:41.660 --> 00:30:44.779
them to calm down and like you took that as like

00:30:44.779 --> 00:30:48.119
an assault on those two men and i was like oh

00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:50.400
okay we don't feel the same yeah i don't think

00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.180
that's cool of her i thought that was so mean

00:30:53.180 --> 00:30:56.779
it's their first award show they're hosting they're

00:30:56.779 --> 00:30:59.039
excited about it it's supposed to be fun and

00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:03.519
funny not serious and it felt like a honestly

00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.819
honest to god it felt like a little bit of like

00:31:06.819 --> 00:31:12.859
a homophobic microaggression the way the circumstance

00:31:12.859 --> 00:31:17.059
in which she said to calm down i don't know if

00:31:17.059 --> 00:31:19.839
she is that probably that doesn't excuse her

00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.779
i mean she looks like i could be wrong i'm gonna

00:31:22.779 --> 00:31:27.980
cut that because um but uh and the only other

00:31:27.980 --> 00:31:29.559
thing i have before we get into real houses of

00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.960
rhode island so this season of atlanta is so

00:31:33.710 --> 00:31:36.309
good like i cannot get enough of it i think this

00:31:36.309 --> 00:31:39.230
this group of women in my favorite city in the

00:31:39.230 --> 00:31:41.930
united states is like really showing up to work

00:31:41.930 --> 00:31:45.930
but i was talking to jeff and scott from husbands

00:31:45.930 --> 00:31:48.329
watching housewives and i was like yeah i don't

00:31:48.329 --> 00:31:51.450
i didn't watch last season of atlanta at all

00:31:51.450 --> 00:31:54.450
and so i was like i'm gonna go back like over

00:31:54.450 --> 00:31:56.720
the next couple of weeks and and go back and

00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.140
watch it and boy oh boy was i in for a treat

00:32:01.140 --> 00:32:03.640
because these women don't care about anything

00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:05.180
and i have something i'm going to throw up on

00:32:05.180 --> 00:32:09.119
the screen real quick because this has become

00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.640
my new vocal stem because this was a very serious

00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:13.839
conversation that two women were having at what

00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:17.180
are real answers about brit's past that's it

00:32:17.180 --> 00:32:22.299
did you ever sell it did i ever the cat no i

00:32:22.299 --> 00:32:26.859
did not i didn't have you done Did you ever sell

00:32:26.859 --> 00:32:32.940
the cat? On national TV, mind you. Okay, I gotta

00:32:32.940 --> 00:32:39.539
go. I mean, I love it. I love that that's being

00:32:39.539 --> 00:32:42.980
talked about. I have, for some reason, lost track

00:32:42.980 --> 00:32:46.759
on Atlanta of who's where. I used to be a big

00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:51.720
into the Nene days and then even the Phaedra

00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:53.720
days, but then I lost track a little bit of it.

00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.259
I got to go back and watch. That's so funny.

00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:01.220
Oh, and I'm telling you, I think Shamia, I like

00:33:01.220 --> 00:33:03.720
her this season. Shamia last season, though,

00:33:03.819 --> 00:33:07.759
like, she is just hysterically funny. Angela

00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.519
Oakley, like, doesn't care about anything. Like,

00:33:10.539 --> 00:33:13.000
these women, I'm like, this is why we watch Atlanta.

00:33:13.220 --> 00:33:16.140
Like, this is good. Oh, that's so good. Travis,

00:33:16.180 --> 00:33:19.599
what's your thoughts on Drew? Like, is that her

00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.410
name? Drew Sedora. Yeah, the one that was just

00:33:22.410 --> 00:33:24.769
asking if she sells the cat. Yeah. I love her.

00:33:24.869 --> 00:33:33.670
I think she's hysterical. I think that she is

00:33:33.670 --> 00:33:36.130
not always completely forthright with the other

00:33:36.130 --> 00:33:37.789
women. And I think that's where she gets into

00:33:37.789 --> 00:33:41.029
trouble. Yes. But I think if she could just be

00:33:41.029 --> 00:33:44.869
honest and just say, yeah, I am dating this guy

00:33:44.869 --> 00:33:48.589
Black. Yeah, my ex -husband's living in the basement.

00:33:48.670 --> 00:33:53.539
It's weird. it's uncomfortable it's fine i i

00:33:53.539 --> 00:33:56.180
like her i really really like drew sidora like

00:33:56.180 --> 00:34:00.779
i think she is her mannerisms the like the way

00:34:00.779 --> 00:34:03.440
that she makes fun of people she's hysterical

00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:06.819
i can't get enough of her so she divorced her

00:34:06.819 --> 00:34:10.219
husband fully like they're fully broken up yeah

00:34:10.219 --> 00:34:12.179
and they're like he's living in the basement

00:34:12.179 --> 00:34:15.039
yeah It's so funny. I think you could do something

00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:18.760
in life where if you see a housewife that is

00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:21.980
overplaying their relationship, like over -dramatizing

00:34:21.980 --> 00:34:25.000
how much they're in love, and then did a little

00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:27.619
metric of how long after did they get divorced?

00:34:27.699 --> 00:34:29.539
I feel like Drew would fall into that, where

00:34:29.539 --> 00:34:35.159
she was so lovey -dovey with her husband, like

00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.659
season one that she was on, season two, and then

00:34:37.659 --> 00:34:42.460
all of a sudden it's like, nope, divorce. maybe

00:34:42.460 --> 00:34:45.079
i don't remember this season the first season

00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.139
that she was on because like the the season that

00:34:47.139 --> 00:34:49.639
i'm going back and watching so last season that's

00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:51.840
the first time i've like i've heard her name

00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.460
before that's the first time i've ever actually

00:34:53.460 --> 00:34:55.079
seen her on tv so like i didn't realize she was

00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.440
on before this i think she was on i'm looking

00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:05.860
it up i think she was on sidora uh joins she

00:35:05.860 --> 00:35:10.789
might have been um not one of the main Specifically,

00:35:10.789 --> 00:35:15.050
2020, she joined. Okay. Because she and Shamia

00:35:15.050 --> 00:35:22.469
were friends of Portia, I think. Yes. Yes. Okay.

00:35:23.389 --> 00:35:28.170
But, no, it is, this holds up in a way that,

00:35:28.210 --> 00:35:31.710
like, I don't remember a bad season of Atlanta

00:35:31.710 --> 00:35:33.530
the way, like, you can come up with one from

00:35:33.530 --> 00:35:37.090
most of the other cities. Like, Atlanta is consistently

00:35:37.090 --> 00:35:40.360
delivering. constantly beverly hills just the

00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:44.880
last four seasons i couldn't make it through

00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.440
this last season of beverly hills and i feel

00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.800
bad about that because i now like you've got

00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:54.159
um in beverly hills you have you've got kyle

00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:55.800
richards like if and if you get into the whole

00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:58.159
thing with with that family and big kathy and

00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.320
like you actually let them be honest about like

00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.559
their trauma there i wouldn't be able to get

00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:07.619
enough of that I can't sit through it anymore.

00:36:07.780 --> 00:36:10.059
I'm not interested in it. I feel bad because

00:36:10.059 --> 00:36:13.179
the last time I enjoyed it was when Lisa Vanderpump

00:36:13.179 --> 00:36:16.260
was on that show. Yeah, I thought Lisa Renna

00:36:16.260 --> 00:36:19.559
days were like the last golden era, which that

00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.360
is a conspiracy, by the way, that Andy is repairing

00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.739
these relationships with these housewives. So

00:36:24.739 --> 00:36:27.679
now all of a sudden, Lisa Renna is getting asked

00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.900
back on. Vicki Gunderson is getting asked back

00:36:30.900 --> 00:36:35.349
on. Kara Radswell is getting asked back on. Um,

00:36:35.349 --> 00:36:37.429
I, I don't think that's how they're making the

00:36:37.429 --> 00:36:42.750
decisions, but that is a rumor. I, if Lisa Rinna

00:36:42.750 --> 00:36:44.590
comes back, like maybe I would like to see her

00:36:44.590 --> 00:36:47.429
and Eileen Davidson back again. Um, they were

00:36:47.429 --> 00:36:53.630
good TV. Um, but I'm, I'm so sick and tired of

00:36:53.630 --> 00:36:57.409
Kyle Richards, like not giving anything. And

00:36:57.409 --> 00:37:01.110
then like, just being a nightmare. Like she sucks.

00:37:01.210 --> 00:37:06.409
Like she sucks so bad. I agree. I agree. I think

00:37:06.409 --> 00:37:08.590
she's I think she's too much of a darling of

00:37:08.590 --> 00:37:10.889
Bravo. She knows too much of what needs to happen.

00:37:10.989 --> 00:37:13.289
She's overproducing it. They need to have term

00:37:13.289 --> 00:37:15.650
limits. If you're if you've had more than seven

00:37:15.650 --> 00:37:17.969
seasons, like you're done. Go have a podcast.

00:37:18.789 --> 00:37:22.409
You're not famous at that point, you know. So

00:37:22.409 --> 00:37:27.349
I can be fine with these housewives like Tamara

00:37:27.349 --> 00:37:30.510
Judge, who has been on Orange County and like.

00:37:31.260 --> 00:37:34.639
she is admittedly at times she's an absolute

00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.280
nightmare but like i don't ever want to stop

00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.500
watching her if that makes sense like the the

00:37:41.500 --> 00:37:45.539
everyone in miami who like i mean i can't stand

00:37:45.539 --> 00:37:48.239
larsa pippen but like she makes pretty good tv

00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:52.199
sure yes like if you're willing to show up and

00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.719
give something you can stay on as long as you

00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:56.639
want like and as long as like your storyline

00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.440
is not I don't know if I'm going to get divorced.

00:37:59.539 --> 00:38:01.639
And then like, you're still going out to clubs

00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:03.440
and like, you're still being photographed holding

00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.239
Mauricio's hand. Like, I don't want to see it.

00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:09.179
Yeah. Right. Right. And let's be real. I mean,

00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.059
she literally came out on the show and we don't

00:38:13.059 --> 00:38:15.099
get to talk about that with her. Like, I think

00:38:15.099 --> 00:38:17.219
that would be hugely impactful for a lot of people

00:38:17.219 --> 00:38:19.139
to be able to hear her talk about that coming

00:38:19.139 --> 00:38:21.340
from the family, even the Beverly Hills area.

00:38:21.420 --> 00:38:27.460
Right. Like all of it. I. part of me is like

00:38:27.460 --> 00:38:30.679
I think she did probably like have a bi escapade

00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:34.780
with Morgan Morgan Wade Morgan Wade yeah maybe

00:38:34.780 --> 00:38:37.300
and that's cool and that's fine like you're a

00:38:37.300 --> 00:38:38.900
late in life lesbian I think that's really cool

00:38:38.900 --> 00:38:43.420
like that you're able to discover that the the

00:38:43.420 --> 00:38:46.239
way that that entire situation was handled though

00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.579
where it's like I could go Brad I could go Angelina

00:38:48.579 --> 00:38:52.920
shut up I don't want to stop I don't you found

00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.659
that to be very like shallow and mature like

00:38:55.659 --> 00:38:58.420
kind of like the wrong way of coming out not

00:38:58.420 --> 00:39:02.159
even that it's like i don't think she's being

00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:04.119
honest that's the problem is like i think she's

00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.179
saying that because i think every like america

00:39:06.179 --> 00:39:09.320
saw her make out with a woman in that music video

00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:13.360
and she's like well i guess i have to pretend

00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.420
and like i don't know it's just i don't know

00:39:15.420 --> 00:39:20.400
and like like i i feel bad because i feel like

00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.659
bows can't shine as much as she probably should

00:39:22.659 --> 00:39:24.380
be able to on that show like i think bows is

00:39:24.380 --> 00:39:28.800
incredible i think that she's got a rough cast

00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.260
that she's working with like erica jane and bows

00:39:31.260 --> 00:39:33.119
are really the only two that i'm like interested

00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:37.500
in watching anymore yeah i agree with you erica

00:39:37.500 --> 00:39:40.119
jane's gonna be an indie in august with kasha

00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:42.099
and i'm so excited to see her by the way like

00:39:42.099 --> 00:39:45.699
is she djing now or singing because you know

00:39:45.699 --> 00:39:49.340
she's a dj too i think she's singing because

00:39:49.340 --> 00:39:53.260
last year when i went to kesha she like they

00:39:53.260 --> 00:39:57.340
they just put on a very very gay show and that's

00:39:57.340 --> 00:39:59.739
what erica jane is showing up to do so okay i'm

00:39:59.739 --> 00:40:02.059
very excited for august in noblesville i think

00:40:02.059 --> 00:40:05.239
it's going to be really cool it's awesome but

00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:09.360
the the bulk of what we're here to talk about

00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:13.340
today is the part one of the real housewives

00:40:13.340 --> 00:40:18.360
of rhode island reunion and i so i watched it

00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:22.019
live and then i went back and re -watched it

00:40:22.019 --> 00:40:25.539
on peacock it's so much better uncensored i have

00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:30.159
to be so real with you like this whoever decided

00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.320
that like these reunions need to be uncensored

00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:34.780
give them give them a peabody that's like i love

00:40:34.780 --> 00:40:41.000
it right um but so and i also took a ton of notes

00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:45.929
but I mean, let's start with the set. I think,

00:40:45.949 --> 00:40:48.389
and this is small note, but you can tell when

00:40:48.389 --> 00:40:51.750
Bravo production like really likes the cast or

00:40:51.750 --> 00:40:53.610
the storyline, because I feel like the set is

00:40:53.610 --> 00:40:56.969
super elaborate. I mean, sometimes those sets

00:40:56.969 --> 00:41:00.889
are misses in my mind. Like there's a Southern

00:41:00.889 --> 00:41:03.329
hospitality reunion. It was just like a copycat

00:41:03.329 --> 00:41:07.440
of Leva's restaurant, but this one. i felt like

00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.260
it there was like levels to it and it had like

00:41:10.260 --> 00:41:12.800
um not running water but kind of fake running

00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:17.460
water on a dock i was like zing there was sparkles

00:41:17.460 --> 00:41:19.739
in the water that i saw i'm like whoa this this

00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:24.400
production team is like going for it and so yeah

00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:28.570
you go i was gonna say i i liked the colors like

00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:30.550
i i liked the blue on everyone i think they all

00:41:30.550 --> 00:41:32.469
looked really really good i saw a lot on tick

00:41:32.469 --> 00:41:33.710
tock where they were like oh they look like they're

00:41:33.710 --> 00:41:36.449
going to prom but i i liked all of their outfits

00:41:36.449 --> 00:41:40.690
i agree i think the nose is hugely distracting

00:41:40.690 --> 00:41:44.750
travis like i the ruler nose is hard for me to

00:41:44.750 --> 00:41:47.409
look anywhere else like i am shocked by that

00:41:47.409 --> 00:41:52.369
nose i think and this is so i've some i've talked

00:41:52.369 --> 00:41:54.789
about it on the podcast before i've had two nose

00:41:54.789 --> 00:42:00.130
jobs and i I fear going back to get the third

00:42:00.130 --> 00:42:03.489
one. Cause I'm like, once you start to like go

00:42:03.489 --> 00:42:05.769
a little too far with it, you can't come back

00:42:05.769 --> 00:42:07.190
from it. And I think that's where we're at with

00:42:07.190 --> 00:42:09.090
her. And the, the thing that I struggle with

00:42:09.090 --> 00:42:11.429
with rule is she, she was perfect to begin with.

00:42:11.449 --> 00:42:14.610
She didn't need to change. So hot, like just

00:42:14.610 --> 00:42:19.250
obnoxiously attractive. And she, she did the

00:42:19.250 --> 00:42:24.539
thing. She did the good old nose job. And then

00:42:24.539 --> 00:42:27.460
Alicia's line of, well, Brian likes it because

00:42:27.460 --> 00:42:30.500
he's sleeping with a brand new woman. Oh my God.

00:42:30.900 --> 00:42:34.320
I was, I was, water was spitting out of my mouth

00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:36.239
at that point. I was like, no, she did not say

00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.199
that. Or who said that? Joellen said it, I think,

00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:41.780
not Alicia. Either way, I was like, holy moly.

00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.940
She's not wrong. No, I know. Well, also, what

00:42:46.940 --> 00:42:48.840
was your thoughts of Rula's positioning on the

00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.860
couch? Like, she's second. I feel like. we've

00:42:51.860 --> 00:42:54.400
never seen a housewife do so little and get so

00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:59.980
much recognition for their season. That, so the

00:42:59.980 --> 00:43:02.719
whole thing with Rula is, you know, she was supposed

00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:05.300
to be a friend of originally like, and the whole

00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:09.840
thing with Brian became so big that I think they

00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.460
just said, here, take a clam or whatever we're

00:43:12.460 --> 00:43:18.019
giving these women. And I, Oh, interesting. That's

00:43:18.019 --> 00:43:22.340
a hot take. I think that like she was thrust

00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:25.599
into it and I mean to be fair she had one of

00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:28.559
the biggest storylines across the whole season

00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:30.280
like I mean she did absolutely nothing and she

00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.820
was in the bed for half of it but I mean also

00:43:34.820 --> 00:43:37.780
like and I this probably isn't the best take

00:43:37.780 --> 00:43:41.039
to have she was humiliated by her husband on

00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:44.260
national television for being a trash trash trash

00:43:44.260 --> 00:43:50.440
man and i i i would give it to her just give

00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:52.239
her the first seat if you want honestly like

00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:56.739
i i'd be fine with it yeah seriously but it seems

00:43:56.739 --> 00:43:59.559
like she has acknowledged the fact that she maybe

00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.900
hasn't played a huge role other than that and

00:44:02.900 --> 00:44:06.380
she is now chirping constantly i don't know if

00:44:06.380 --> 00:44:08.300
you caught that it's like everything is like

00:44:08.300 --> 00:44:10.900
joelle and shut up joelle it's like rula this

00:44:10.900 --> 00:44:14.849
this is i think a little too late in my opinion

00:44:14.849 --> 00:44:17.469
like it feels very performative to like now be

00:44:17.469 --> 00:44:21.389
like chirping at everybody i i don't know not

00:44:21.389 --> 00:44:23.750
only did i notice it i have three separate video

00:44:23.750 --> 00:44:27.170
clips that we're gonna play throughout this episode

00:44:27.170 --> 00:44:31.730
where i was like she i didn't know she had this

00:44:31.730 --> 00:44:33.949
personality in her like this is like my aunts

00:44:33.949 --> 00:44:35.809
from kentucky that like i'm talking to right

00:44:35.809 --> 00:44:39.889
now um i know exactly yes i know exactly what

00:44:39.889 --> 00:44:43.869
you're talking about i totally get it um i like

00:44:43.869 --> 00:44:47.110
i also i want to take a second to acknowledge

00:44:47.110 --> 00:44:50.989
alicia who i don't think we're getting an act

00:44:50.989 --> 00:44:52.809
with her i don't think we're getting anything

00:44:52.809 --> 00:44:55.730
other than she loves a cracker she loves a horse

00:44:55.730 --> 00:45:00.190
she loves she loves being there and she's just

00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:02.010
like she's just happy to be there i love her

00:45:02.010 --> 00:45:04.610
so much and like i would protect her with my

00:45:04.610 --> 00:45:07.150
life like i just I didn't need her to do anything

00:45:07.150 --> 00:45:09.650
other than exactly what she was doing. Yeah.

00:45:09.730 --> 00:45:12.809
Now, one of the things I wanted to ask you about

00:45:12.809 --> 00:45:15.769
is there's a rumor. I saw this just recently.

00:45:15.769 --> 00:45:17.170
There's a rumor going around online that the

00:45:17.170 --> 00:45:21.010
home you're not homeless. Whole storyline was

00:45:21.010 --> 00:45:24.050
a little bit of producer bait where they put

00:45:24.050 --> 00:45:27.110
Joe Allen up to kind of talking about in the

00:45:27.110 --> 00:45:29.869
car, which by the way, that car ride was 30 minutes

00:45:29.869 --> 00:45:32.929
only. That's how short that was. And that was

00:45:32.929 --> 00:45:36.670
like a. Emmy nominated like scene between the

00:45:36.670 --> 00:45:40.889
three of them. And, and apparently it's obvious

00:45:40.889 --> 00:45:43.489
to people who catch it, that Liz during that

00:45:43.489 --> 00:45:46.550
entire scene is like trying to suggest that Joellen

00:45:46.550 --> 00:45:49.150
is setting her up via production. Like production

00:45:49.150 --> 00:45:51.449
said, you got to talk about it in the car. And

00:45:51.449 --> 00:45:54.010
so it makes me think differently of Alicia. If

00:45:54.010 --> 00:45:57.630
she is roped into that a little bit, that like

00:45:57.630 --> 00:46:04.150
performative side. I. So I know that Liz, I'm

00:46:04.150 --> 00:46:05.670
going to be really honest with you, I think Liz

00:46:05.670 --> 00:46:07.969
might be a little bit paranoid at times. Like,

00:46:07.969 --> 00:46:11.769
I think she feels like these other women are,

00:46:11.789 --> 00:46:13.829
like, maybe conspiring against her more. Like,

00:46:13.869 --> 00:46:15.650
kind of like K. Michelle on Atlanta, where it's

00:46:15.650 --> 00:46:18.670
like, I don't know where it's coming from. I

00:46:18.670 --> 00:46:21.650
want to believe that everything we got from Joellen

00:46:21.650 --> 00:46:25.809
was just Joellen being Joellen. I don't want

00:46:25.809 --> 00:46:27.650
to believe that production put her up to it,

00:46:27.670 --> 00:46:32.619
because... she stands on her own so well um but

00:46:32.619 --> 00:46:36.820
Liz did talk about that and Joellen was like

00:46:36.820 --> 00:46:38.800
I have no idea what you're talking about I I

00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:41.019
believe Joellen I don't know like I don't have

00:46:41.019 --> 00:46:44.860
any reason not to I agree and and first of all

00:46:44.860 --> 00:46:47.420
Joellen can we just say I've never seen somebody

00:46:47.420 --> 00:46:50.000
in their lives who has changed their hairstyle

00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:54.400
and like like went back in age by like 10 years

00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:59.280
like her that hairstyle must was aging her like

00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.880
30. She's Travis. She's our age. I think you're

00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.139
about the same age as me. And she looked like

00:47:05.139 --> 00:47:08.039
she was like mid forties, almost 50. I felt like

00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:10.280
with that hair and now the hair is longer and

00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:13.920
kind of more like dropped out a little more wavy,

00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.559
less barrel curl. And I I'm like, you are a hottie

00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.679
Joellen. You're beautiful. I didn't notice it

00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.860
specifically with the hair, but like I've from

00:47:22.860 --> 00:47:26.110
day one, I thought Joellen was. one of the hottest

00:47:26.110 --> 00:47:28.510
housewives like on rhode island like i totally

00:47:28.510 --> 00:47:31.989
agree so hot and that her husband oh my god i

00:47:31.989 --> 00:47:36.889
don't shut up about gary gary gary just oh my

00:47:36.889 --> 00:47:45.070
god oh love him anyway um so the one storyline

00:47:45.070 --> 00:47:48.309
i do need to like be done with is this 8 000

00:47:48.309 --> 00:47:50.610
square foot house like this came up so quickly

00:47:50.610 --> 00:47:52.690
and i was i'm begging for this storyline to be

00:47:52.690 --> 00:47:57.019
over because I don't care. I do not care that

00:47:57.019 --> 00:47:59.219
you're adding on to what was originally a lake

00:47:59.219 --> 00:48:02.639
house. I don't care that your Frank Sinatra husband

00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:05.539
is putting the foundation in Boundary Rock. I

00:48:05.539 --> 00:48:10.280
don't care because I feel like you're too defensive

00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:13.559
over it. And it's weird. It's weird how mean

00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.360
you get about it. I don't know. I totally agree.

00:48:16.500 --> 00:48:19.360
And the other thing with Rosie, which I don't

00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.480
know if you follow Dave Portnoy at all. He's

00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.199
kind of a... old jewish guy in barstool sports

00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:27.460
he he was making me aware of this and now i'm

00:48:27.460 --> 00:48:30.179
like very tracking all of the gossip associated

00:48:30.179 --> 00:48:33.639
with it but rosie and that um the coach that's

00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:36.579
the real storyline of rosie the affair with the

00:48:36.579 --> 00:48:40.199
coach and i thought they dropped one of the biggest

00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:44.300
bombs possible on the reunion when i don't forget

00:48:44.300 --> 00:48:45.880
who it was but they said you were in the police

00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:51.639
report rosie like he got a d this is i do think

00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:53.280
annie's a little sleep at sleep at the wheel

00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:54.860
which we could talk about in a second at the

00:48:54.860 --> 00:48:58.119
scene because i was like i was gripping the i

00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.360
was like oh my god if that place would report

00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:03.880
exists travis like this would blow it wide open

00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:09.239
for that whole entire rumor but i i guess my

00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:17.000
question is is like does who cares that she was

00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.280
with the coach like that's what i kept coming

00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:23.199
back to is like get get it i don't like whatever

00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:27.079
but like i do feel with rosie specifically there

00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.420
is something disingenuous about her where like

00:49:29.420 --> 00:49:31.239
i don't think she's being honest about why she

00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:33.460
left the news station i don't think she's being

00:49:33.460 --> 00:49:37.699
honest about yeah like the colitis and like all

00:49:37.699 --> 00:49:40.699
of that it feels like you're making it up and

00:49:40.699 --> 00:49:42.719
like you don't want anyone to ask questions is

00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:44.360
that's why you keep the bringing up the whole,

00:49:44.380 --> 00:49:45.760
like I was bleeding out of my asshole, but like,

00:49:45.820 --> 00:49:48.320
okay. Okay. Okay. It's almost like she's really

00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:50.539
aggressive on something. So you don't ask about

00:49:50.539 --> 00:49:53.119
other things like in how she says it, but okay.

00:49:53.219 --> 00:49:56.079
Travis on the, on the coach specifically, if

00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.420
you, if you trust Dave Portney and all like,

00:49:58.420 --> 00:50:02.219
there's a whole fan base that didn't know what

00:50:02.219 --> 00:50:05.800
happened with that Ed Cooley. And while for us,

00:50:05.900 --> 00:50:09.750
there's so many like bombs that this guy. yes

00:50:09.750 --> 00:50:15.150
oh okay this now it makes sense why they were

00:50:15.150 --> 00:50:16.809
making a big deal out of it because like i was

00:50:16.809 --> 00:50:19.570
like who cared okay because like i saw the thing

00:50:19.570 --> 00:50:21.989
from dave portnoy that he was i didn't make the

00:50:21.989 --> 00:50:24.710
connection that it was like okay okay yes i'm

00:50:24.710 --> 00:50:27.309
sorry like think of your like most favorite sports

00:50:27.309 --> 00:50:29.909
team or whatever and then and then think if there

00:50:29.909 --> 00:50:32.769
was this big drama over years of it happening

00:50:32.769 --> 00:50:34.449
because they all thought that he had an affair

00:50:34.449 --> 00:50:38.909
that was rosy and and and she has denied a nine

00:50:38.909 --> 00:50:42.210
to nine my co -host and i would say at this point

00:50:42.210 --> 00:50:43.769
if there was a smoking gun it would have showed

00:50:43.769 --> 00:50:46.050
itself but then all of a sudden this police report

00:50:46.050 --> 00:50:48.849
dropped in the region and i'm like oh my god

00:50:48.849 --> 00:50:51.469
there's a police report now i i don't have investigative

00:50:51.469 --> 00:50:54.949
i don't have investigative like i i don't know

00:50:54.949 --> 00:50:57.030
how to pull that i don't know how to solve get

00:50:57.030 --> 00:50:59.210
get the police report right i'll do it tonight

00:50:59.210 --> 00:51:04.280
oh travis please send it to me i'm dying i guess

00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.619
like so the other thing too is ashley very quickly

00:51:07.619 --> 00:51:09.679
started defending her where she was like my concern

00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:11.900
about this police report is it's not real and

00:51:11.900 --> 00:51:18.480
i was like how do you know actually we're downloading

00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:22.199
it off the site yeah no i so i'm like oh honey

00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.559
boo boo that just got blown right wide open because

00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:27.099
if that's if that's the case people are going

00:51:27.099 --> 00:51:29.059
to find that i'm going to make a little note

00:51:29.059 --> 00:51:30.719
right now to find that for you i will do that

00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:41.469
tonight but so oh there's okay so i feel like

00:51:41.469 --> 00:51:44.590
not a ton happened in this reunion but at the

00:51:44.590 --> 00:51:47.610
same time so much happened because like i don't

00:51:47.610 --> 00:51:50.989
feel like we ever got a ton of resolution on

00:51:50.989 --> 00:51:56.590
anything um but um i felt i felt bad that liz's

00:51:56.590 --> 00:51:58.869
cat passed away like that was really sad because

00:51:58.869 --> 00:52:02.530
i she like seemed very attached to that cat travis

00:52:02.530 --> 00:52:06.190
let's talk about liz liz to me is shockingly

00:52:06.190 --> 00:52:10.050
she is an enigma of a human being i cannot get

00:52:10.050 --> 00:52:13.389
enough of her but i am very like i feel like

00:52:13.389 --> 00:52:16.030
she's got a lot going under the surface first

00:52:16.030 --> 00:52:18.230
of all she's connected to that dino and clearly

00:52:18.230 --> 00:52:20.630
there's going to be legal drama in her future

00:52:20.630 --> 00:52:23.170
um i mean you heard he got arrested for like

00:52:23.469 --> 00:52:25.789
running coke right yes running and then they

00:52:25.789 --> 00:52:28.110
sold the boat and it's like oh this is suspicious

00:52:28.110 --> 00:52:31.050
that you sold the boat after she made a thousand

00:52:31.050 --> 00:52:33.389
phone calls to him i think over the course of

00:52:33.389 --> 00:52:36.590
a month um and he's connected to the mob liz

00:52:36.590 --> 00:52:38.710
is clearly connected to the mob i've never seen

00:52:38.710 --> 00:52:43.369
a more mob wife person oh yeah yeah totally and

00:52:43.369 --> 00:52:47.559
yeah go ahead sorry no but then she also But

00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:50.239
then she also drops things like, I don't know,

00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.739
I wrote it down here, that she was tactile defensive.

00:52:53.860 --> 00:52:57.119
So that was her excuse of why she was mad that

00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:59.539
Joellen kept touching her. And I'm like, I had

00:52:59.539 --> 00:53:02.860
to Google tactile defensive. I'm like, what the

00:53:02.860 --> 00:53:06.519
F is this? It's an excuse given to you by a therapist.

00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:09.539
Yes, but that's the thing. It's like she pulls

00:53:09.539 --> 00:53:11.480
out these phrases or these words and I'm like,

00:53:11.539 --> 00:53:14.139
wait, are you smart or not? I can't figure it

00:53:14.139 --> 00:53:16.789
out because you give mob wife. like protect the

00:53:16.789 --> 00:53:19.769
family and then you also have like pull out words

00:53:19.769 --> 00:53:22.329
like tactile defensive and i'm like and then

00:53:22.329 --> 00:53:24.289
she was also hitting her vape did you see that

00:53:24.289 --> 00:53:27.809
i did i did notice that like here's the thing

00:53:27.809 --> 00:53:31.849
i i don't think being a mob wife and if that's

00:53:31.849 --> 00:53:35.170
what she is and being intelligent or mutually

00:53:35.170 --> 00:53:42.329
exclusive i think i think liz i'm gonna be like

00:53:42.329 --> 00:53:45.110
she just there's i and i can't put my finger

00:53:45.110 --> 00:53:46.949
on why like i look at her and i'm like she's

00:53:46.949 --> 00:53:51.349
had a hard life and i think that we're seeing

00:53:51.349 --> 00:53:56.409
like that project itself in maybe not the greatest

00:53:56.409 --> 00:53:58.889
of ways but it's pretty damn entertaining when

00:53:58.889 --> 00:54:00.590
she's like out there like screaming joelle and

00:54:00.590 --> 00:54:04.670
she's like i got it i got it like i like it was

00:54:04.670 --> 00:54:10.219
weird but i can't get enough of that um but yeah

00:54:10.219 --> 00:54:12.880
i think you're on to something they're like some

00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:15.480
i don't think we've gotten the full truth and

00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.099
i don't want her to get in trouble the way like

00:54:19.099 --> 00:54:23.440
theresa and like jen shaw did because i like

00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:27.039
her i like her yeah but the one thing i will

00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.559
say i don't know if you Notice this with Beverly

00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.019
Hills. Dorit has a ton of like pregnant pauses.

00:54:32.340 --> 00:54:34.480
And my co -host and I have always talked about

00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:38.519
this, but we cannot stand Liz's how she speaks,

00:54:38.539 --> 00:54:41.099
like the dialect, not the accent, but like the

00:54:41.099 --> 00:54:44.440
rhythm of how it takes her to, she's almost thinking

00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:46.139
while she's speaking and therefore she creates

00:54:46.139 --> 00:54:49.079
these like pregnant pauses constantly. Travis,

00:54:49.179 --> 00:54:52.550
I'm so annoyed by it. she was on watch what happens

00:54:52.550 --> 00:54:54.690
live and watch what happens live is like a notoriously

00:54:54.690 --> 00:54:58.070
a very fast paced show and the and the long pauses

00:54:58.070 --> 00:55:02.150
were just uh were were they stopped andy in his

00:55:02.150 --> 00:55:04.409
tracks because he couldn't get past the long

00:55:04.409 --> 00:55:07.489
pauses when she's like speaking sure well she's

00:55:07.489 --> 00:55:11.250
always high as a kite like i mean right well

00:55:11.250 --> 00:55:13.909
when you say paranoia i mean that's a huge side

00:55:13.909 --> 00:55:18.199
effect of doing a ton of pot to be honest i think

00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:21.139
i think she's she's there can we can we talk

00:55:21.139 --> 00:55:25.679
a little bit about um brian please and his take

00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:29.199
it away what is i don't even understand i don't

00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:31.400
understand a lot of things with brian like why

00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:33.780
is she still with him what i mean what is your

00:55:33.780 --> 00:55:37.059
take on it why is she still with him i think

00:55:37.059 --> 00:55:44.539
that she is a a wife who was raised by a family

00:55:44.539 --> 00:55:46.980
who has old school values i've seen it and i've

00:55:46.980 --> 00:55:49.739
seen it in my own family i've seen it a million

00:55:49.739 --> 00:55:51.599
times in the church i was raised in where it's

00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:53.460
like you you figure it out you don't get divorced

00:55:53.460 --> 00:55:56.960
like you don't break up the family and i think

00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:01.099
that she is also a big personality so she's going

00:56:01.099 --> 00:56:07.679
to protect the image of what her marriage is

00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.599
supposed to be and um and emma and i talked about

00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:13.119
this recently on the podcast too they're very

00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:15.679
public facing people so he's a doctor and she

00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:18.019
is a financial planner and she owns her own firm

00:56:18.019 --> 00:56:21.460
and like emma and i come from the financial world

00:56:21.460 --> 00:56:25.940
so i i understand that like she's going to work

00:56:25.940 --> 00:56:28.500
every day and she's like yeah i'm on this show

00:56:28.500 --> 00:56:31.280
and um yeah my husband did what he did we're

00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:32.519
gonna fix it we're gonna fix it we're gonna get

00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:34.179
through it but i think that's what's happening

00:56:34.179 --> 00:56:36.059
and that's why it's manifesting itself in such

00:56:36.059 --> 00:56:39.760
ugly ways but when it comes to brian okay sorry

00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:43.059
rula has dropped a single did you see that and

00:56:43.059 --> 00:56:46.219
she's also dropped a service where you can sign

00:56:46.219 --> 00:56:49.900
up to experience like rula like she has like

00:56:49.900 --> 00:56:51.760
american express and how it gives you access

00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.579
to like all these like luxury experiences yeah

00:56:54.579 --> 00:56:57.940
i so to your i totally agree with everything

00:56:57.940 --> 00:57:00.019
you said although the caveat i will say is i

00:57:00.019 --> 00:57:02.219
don't think she's long for the financial planner

00:57:02.219 --> 00:57:07.719
world i think she's gonna pivot but yeah so i

00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:11.219
i don't know i like i i guess i'm also really

00:57:11.219 --> 00:57:14.920
curious as to so i when it comes to the situation

00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:19.019
with rula and joellen and rula like fully i'm

00:57:19.019 --> 00:57:21.280
sorry joellen fully called out brian like at

00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:23.860
the at the polo match and like like has been

00:57:23.860 --> 00:57:26.400
very aggressive directly to him he's never said

00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:28.619
to rula you're stupid for staying with him like

00:57:28.619 --> 00:57:31.420
she's never been mean to rula about it and she's

00:57:31.420 --> 00:57:33.579
always been like i i told you i was gonna get

00:57:33.579 --> 00:57:37.119
you proof here's the proof I think she's trying

00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.039
to do the right thing. I don't understand why

00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.860
it's coming out so ugly against Joe Allen. And

00:57:41.860 --> 00:57:43.519
that's, that's where I'm struggling with it.

00:57:43.579 --> 00:57:48.340
Cause. I mean, this is my hot take and it's,

00:57:48.340 --> 00:57:50.900
you could probably fight me on this, but it's

00:57:50.900 --> 00:57:57.179
she's clearly asking for the content and she's

00:57:57.179 --> 00:57:59.500
got, she, she's like separated from the mistress

00:57:59.500 --> 00:58:01.880
by like one person, or maybe she might even be

00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:03.659
texting with the mistress. They all run in the

00:58:03.659 --> 00:58:06.630
same circle. right which by the way that mistress

00:58:06.630 --> 00:58:09.489
is everywhere on instagram constantly posting

00:58:09.489 --> 00:58:12.190
have you seen that in the bio where she's like

00:58:12.190 --> 00:58:15.369
got the feet in her bio like as like a call to

00:58:15.369 --> 00:58:18.329
the like it's so it's single white female it's

00:58:18.329 --> 00:58:22.670
weird yes yes and and that to me is the part

00:58:22.670 --> 00:58:26.530
that i i do think joellen is she's kind of like

00:58:26.530 --> 00:58:28.750
texting on the side like sending the video and

00:58:28.750 --> 00:58:31.690
that's the part that feels very like gunning

00:58:31.690 --> 00:58:34.280
for rule up Like send me the video of the mistress

00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.639
so I can bring it up to Rula. And I think that's

00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:40.019
what they're all like, Joellen, just stop. Like

00:58:40.019 --> 00:58:42.599
let her, you know, let her figure it out the

00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:44.699
old fashioned way where she finds the panties

00:58:44.699 --> 00:58:46.760
in the, you know, car or something, you know,

00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:49.400
like we don't need to have you like be forcing

00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.820
the video on us. But I don't know. To me, it's

00:58:52.820 --> 00:58:55.519
just silly. Something else that I thought was

00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:58.780
weird too is Rula got very brave with Liz and

00:58:58.780 --> 00:59:01.639
called her out for like, I guess, running around

00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:06.199
on. jerry jerry there's a lot of airy anyway

00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:10.760
um running around on her husband and the way

00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:13.360
that she was just like yeah like i i know you

00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:16.420
did it like what's the problem and liz is like

00:59:16.420 --> 00:59:19.679
tell me tell like and because liz is like i i

00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:21.659
don't know that i would be like and i'm an aggressive

00:59:21.659 --> 00:59:23.500
person i don't know that i would be able to like

00:59:23.500 --> 00:59:25.079
look liz dead in the face while she was doing

00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:28.300
that to me like that's terrifying and rilla didn't

00:59:28.300 --> 00:59:30.880
take the hint like she's like well everyone knows

00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:36.019
yeah like but are you not looking at your own

00:59:36.019 --> 00:59:37.980
husband and saying that like i don't i don't

00:59:37.980 --> 00:59:43.079
i don't oh why it's like hard to watch the hypocrisy

00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:46.719
i i think the uh interesting with liz too it's

00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:50.219
like that is how aggressive liz is that she when

00:59:50.219 --> 00:59:52.679
confronted with a problem like that she is like

00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:55.219
goes hard at it right that would make me very

00:59:55.219 --> 00:59:57.579
scared to have any sort of dialogue with her

00:59:57.579 --> 00:59:59.800
where it's like you know oh you didn't do the

00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:01.920
dishes last night and and she's like saying they're

01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:05.179
going show me the dish it's like I'm like I don't

01:00:05.179 --> 01:00:07.440
know the dishes they just weren't there like

01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.380
if you're not ready to come to Liz like don't

01:00:10.380 --> 01:00:12.639
come you know don't don't step in the ring with

01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:16.179
her but it it feels like Liz is hiding a lot

01:00:16.179 --> 01:00:18.519
of secrets and Rula is not sitting there like

01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:21.039
oh Rula has no receipts of like oh you told me

01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:23.159
it but she just I mean the Rolode Island community

01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:25.309
is small enough that I think she's she knows

01:00:25.309 --> 01:00:27.530
and she's kind of trying to take a swipe at the

01:00:27.530 --> 01:00:30.809
queen and the queen's like how dare you you know

01:00:30.809 --> 01:00:36.210
like that's how i read it okay that that actually

01:00:36.210 --> 01:00:40.150
yeah i'll buy that but i i'll believe that um

01:00:40.150 --> 01:00:45.090
also did did you catch that apparently there's

01:00:45.090 --> 01:00:47.269
a tracker online for how many times ashley has

01:00:47.269 --> 01:00:50.030
cried this season oh my gosh well have you watched

01:00:50.030 --> 01:00:52.050
it did you watch her in the um batch did you

01:00:52.050 --> 01:00:53.610
watch her during the bachelorette bachelor no

01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:57.559
I mean, she's the exact same way. It was shocking.

01:00:57.699 --> 01:00:59.159
She actually made it quite far. I think it was

01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:01.519
Chris Soule's season. He was a farmer, which

01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:03.980
no female alive should have actually entered

01:01:03.980 --> 01:01:05.980
that. And they all said, we would love to be

01:01:05.980 --> 01:01:08.300
on a farm. No, they didn't. But she made it to

01:01:08.300 --> 01:01:10.900
like eight. So she got a lot of screen time.

01:01:11.420 --> 01:01:13.980
Ashley, to me, is one of those people that Travis

01:01:13.980 --> 01:01:18.019
said, she always looks 80 % ready for TV. But

01:01:18.019 --> 01:01:20.500
then there's always something amiss. Like the

01:01:20.500 --> 01:01:26.340
hair is a little amiss. like i like that she

01:01:26.340 --> 01:01:29.519
feels real but adding to the crying and i'm like

01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:33.440
oh ashley i the only time i ever remembered her

01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:36.420
crying was when her kid went to the er and like

01:01:36.420 --> 01:01:38.619
she had to leave the boat like i did i don't

01:01:38.619 --> 01:01:41.159
remember her crying any other time no she cries

01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:43.739
constantly she almost cried on did you see she

01:01:43.739 --> 01:01:45.940
almost cried on the reunion like she got choked

01:01:45.940 --> 01:01:49.849
up talking about rosie that's fair she did Yeah,

01:01:49.869 --> 01:01:51.889
no, that was her stick from way back in the day.

01:01:52.010 --> 01:01:53.710
The one thing I wanted to talk to you about is

01:01:53.710 --> 01:01:56.090
Audrey's though, or Audrey's. Every time they

01:01:56.090 --> 01:01:58.789
mention that, I'm always like, I'm like, what

01:01:58.789 --> 01:02:00.190
housewife are we talking about? I'm like, oh

01:02:00.190 --> 01:02:02.690
yeah, it's that damn coffee shop. I can't, for

01:02:02.690 --> 01:02:04.670
some reason, it's not stuck in my brain that

01:02:04.670 --> 01:02:08.369
that's the coffee shop that he runs. But I am

01:02:08.369 --> 01:02:13.630
very shocked that this is, this seems so lowbrow

01:02:13.630 --> 01:02:16.530
for a housewife to have to be worried about their

01:02:16.530 --> 01:02:19.340
husband working a hundred hours. at a coffee

01:02:19.340 --> 01:02:26.079
shop that's making no money so the as an outsider

01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:28.760
looking in because i recognize what this is i

01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:31.820
feel like he has family money or he's got like

01:02:31.820 --> 01:02:36.159
he he's okay without the coffee shop in general

01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:40.059
and i think this is his passion project i i truly

01:02:40.059 --> 01:02:43.500
think that's what this is it doesn't like i i

01:02:43.500 --> 01:02:46.199
i think like if he wants to if he wants to go

01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:49.099
to the coffee shop let him go like is it i mean

01:02:49.099 --> 01:02:50.739
is it bothering you you're making enough money

01:02:50.739 --> 01:02:53.019
out like with social media like they're very

01:02:53.019 --> 01:02:55.400
clearly not struggling for money like i think

01:02:55.400 --> 01:03:00.420
i think it's i also think it's one of those things

01:03:00.420 --> 01:03:02.019
that's like put on a little bit for the show

01:03:02.019 --> 01:03:04.880
where it's like he's working so much and i'm

01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:08.300
like i mean to be fair like people have said

01:03:08.300 --> 01:03:10.039
they go in there and he's like actually working

01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:11.679
behind the counter which i do think is endearing

01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:17.780
but like i I don't know. It felt like a non -storyline

01:03:17.780 --> 01:03:19.380
to me. I don't know. What do you think? Yeah,

01:03:19.380 --> 01:03:21.500
yeah. Well, to your point, it's like how many

01:03:21.500 --> 01:03:24.340
hours can you really spend brewing coffee? It's

01:03:24.340 --> 01:03:26.539
like 100 hours a week. It feels a little bit

01:03:26.539 --> 01:03:30.489
off. I just think... The conundrum of this is

01:03:30.489 --> 01:03:33.110
they've both been on reality TV before and they

01:03:33.110 --> 01:03:35.130
were showing off their business, Audrey's. What

01:03:35.130 --> 01:03:36.789
did you think was going to happen, Ashley? Of

01:03:36.789 --> 01:03:39.010
course, people were going to go and go visit

01:03:39.010 --> 01:03:40.789
Audrey's. Like, I'm ready to invite you to go

01:03:40.789 --> 01:03:43.130
to a road trip, Travis, where we go visit Audrey's

01:03:43.130 --> 01:03:46.570
and have some coffee. So it's like and see Jared

01:03:46.570 --> 01:03:49.590
standing me on the counter. So this idea, I guess

01:03:49.590 --> 01:03:51.929
you're kind of hitting it right. Like, it seems

01:03:51.929 --> 01:03:55.409
a little manufactured that like, you know, Audrey's

01:03:55.409 --> 01:03:57.190
was a storyline. And the reality is, it's like.

01:03:57.400 --> 01:03:59.239
But anything you put on this platform is going

01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:01.159
to do well after it's been on the platform. So

01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:04.699
you clearly wanted to kind of see what happened

01:04:04.699 --> 01:04:07.519
when you talked about your coffee shop. It's

01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:10.340
just funny to me that an ex -Bachelor contestant

01:04:10.340 --> 01:04:12.940
is running a coffee shop and can't quite get

01:04:12.940 --> 01:04:16.000
it to go. Similar to me and my podcast, by the

01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:18.340
way. I related on that. Baby, I'm right there

01:04:18.340 --> 01:04:20.559
with you. It's okay. It's passion projects that

01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.159
we can't get to kind of take off. I'm like, yeah,

01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:29.269
I get it, Jer. But then, so, they also, I want

01:04:29.269 --> 01:04:33.230
to, really quick, I want to, because you said

01:04:33.230 --> 01:04:35.130
Andy was phoning it in a little bit, I want to

01:04:35.130 --> 01:04:39.329
show everyone this gold from the, like, when

01:04:39.329 --> 01:04:41.510
they're taking a break. All right. We need to

01:04:41.510 --> 01:04:46.110
take a break. We'll be right back. Andy. Rula.

01:04:46.190 --> 01:04:50.550
I actually have Brian's surgery records for the

01:04:50.550 --> 01:04:53.829
day that alleged video was taken. His whole entire

01:04:53.829 --> 01:04:57.409
schedule, just so. Okay, well, we're taking a

01:04:57.409 --> 01:05:00.190
five -minute break. Yeah, okay, Joelle. Anybody

01:05:00.190 --> 01:05:02.170
can change a date on their dash and everything.

01:05:04.389 --> 01:05:08.130
Like, Andy could not be less interested in this.

01:05:08.210 --> 01:05:10.650
And like, okay, we're going to take a five -minute

01:05:10.650 --> 01:05:16.610
break. Truly, Travis, he's getting tired. Andy's

01:05:16.610 --> 01:05:19.010
getting tired. You know what I mean? Like, I...

01:05:19.690 --> 01:05:22.750
I love him, but from summer house, which was

01:05:22.750 --> 01:05:25.269
probably, I know you guys didn't watch that,

01:05:25.289 --> 01:05:27.489
but when you get to it, let me know to this,

01:05:27.550 --> 01:05:29.849
these two reunions, like the reunions is where

01:05:29.849 --> 01:05:32.750
we want to get everything resolved. Like, and

01:05:32.750 --> 01:05:35.269
you got to chase every lead that you hear in

01:05:35.269 --> 01:05:37.230
the conversation. If you're Andy, because that's

01:05:37.230 --> 01:05:38.869
where this is the moment, this is the moment

01:05:38.869 --> 01:05:41.409
to get it resolved and like not chasing the police

01:05:41.409 --> 01:05:43.469
report comment. Right. Where he's, he wasn't

01:05:43.469 --> 01:05:46.190
following up on that. Not, not asking some of

01:05:46.190 --> 01:05:47.570
the harder hitting questions during summer house.

01:05:47.590 --> 01:05:51.190
I'm like, he's tired he's built such a good franchise

01:05:51.190 --> 01:05:53.969
but i think he's getting tired i think it's also

01:05:53.969 --> 01:05:58.690
these like i don't think anyone actually realizes

01:05:58.690 --> 01:06:01.710
like this is like a 12 -hour day that andy's

01:06:01.710 --> 01:06:03.969
sitting through and he's done this eight times

01:06:03.969 --> 01:06:06.829
already this year i think i get it like and i

01:06:06.829 --> 01:06:11.579
also like if he's actually watching it as a viewer

01:06:11.579 --> 01:06:14.920
too, and he's just like, I don't care about this

01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:16.599
because I know it's not real. Like, I'll buy

01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:19.820
that. But I want to talk for a second about the

01:06:19.820 --> 01:06:23.360
comment that Rula made. So she announces that

01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:25.400
she has a copy of Ryan's trash surgery schedule

01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:28.559
from the day that video with his whore was taken.

01:06:29.260 --> 01:06:35.820
And Rula says you can easily change the time

01:06:35.820 --> 01:06:40.380
on your dashboard. I want to unpack that for

01:06:40.380 --> 01:06:43.380
a minute because that was on Apple CarPlay. In

01:06:43.380 --> 01:06:47.739
order to go in and change the time on Apple CarPlay,

01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:49.340
you have to change it in your iPhone and you

01:06:49.340 --> 01:06:51.480
have to like override the automatic time setting

01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:55.659
in there, which actually messes with like core

01:06:55.659 --> 01:06:58.659
functions of iOS. So like no one's doing that,

01:06:58.699 --> 01:07:03.530
number one. Number two. You believe that like

01:07:03.530 --> 01:07:06.730
someone I had it written down really perfectly.

01:07:06.750 --> 01:07:10.449
So you believe that Joellen's friend was willing

01:07:10.449 --> 01:07:12.710
to take that risk to like mess up her entire

01:07:12.710 --> 01:07:15.050
life with her dad or her iMessage or FaceTime

01:07:15.050 --> 01:07:17.570
because we'll break all of those things in iOS

01:07:17.570 --> 01:07:21.869
to support this conspiracy theory against your

01:07:21.869 --> 01:07:24.409
marriage. That's that's one possible outcome

01:07:24.409 --> 01:07:28.409
in this. brian's greasy ass went into his calendar

01:07:28.409 --> 01:07:31.590
app at his ozempic foot clinic and made the date

01:07:31.590 --> 01:07:33.409
in question look like he was very booked and

01:07:33.409 --> 01:07:35.650
busy and then he printed out his lies on a piece

01:07:35.650 --> 01:07:37.969
of paper to give it to you which one do you think

01:07:37.969 --> 01:07:45.469
why is more plausible also he told gary at the

01:07:45.469 --> 01:07:49.170
hotel on blog island the video was real he said

01:07:49.170 --> 01:07:53.210
it to gary And, well, you just hit the nail on

01:07:53.210 --> 01:07:55.269
the head. That's how he's getting away with all

01:07:55.269 --> 01:07:59.889
of this, by the way, is he did have the affair.

01:08:00.050 --> 01:08:03.449
He admits to that. But it's the timing of when

01:08:03.449 --> 01:08:05.610
all this came down. And you're totally right.

01:08:05.750 --> 01:08:08.590
Like, that's it. That's how he's getting away

01:08:08.590 --> 01:08:10.489
with all this. And that's how he thinks it's

01:08:10.489 --> 01:08:12.650
coming across is that it's like, I know I did

01:08:12.650 --> 01:08:15.530
have the affair. We worked on it. And now this

01:08:15.530 --> 01:08:22.289
is all old content. okay okay so that's why they're

01:08:22.289 --> 01:08:24.550
hating on joe ellen so much is because he's like

01:08:24.550 --> 01:08:26.729
sitting there and he's saying you're right i

01:08:26.729 --> 01:08:28.810
had it but we worked through it and now joe ellen's

01:08:28.810 --> 01:08:31.750
just digging up old content and that's why travis

01:08:31.750 --> 01:08:34.960
they're saying I think that's why Brian actually

01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:37.800
said that date is manufactured. Like the video

01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:40.199
is real, but the date is manufactured because

01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:42.420
he's saying, no, that did happen. But the date

01:08:42.420 --> 01:08:44.439
was much longer when I admitted to having the

01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:47.300
affair versus it's still going on and being today.

01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:50.060
So to your point, really doesn't even have the

01:08:50.060 --> 01:08:52.619
lie, right? Because Brian's saying, no, the video

01:08:52.619 --> 01:08:55.119
is real, but that was way back when I was having

01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:58.220
the affair. versus rule is trying to say he wasn't

01:08:58.220 --> 01:09:00.960
even there that's not him it's like no rule that's

01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.520
just like you're just dumb at that point she

01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:06.979
i like i literally wrote in my notes like i know

01:09:06.979 --> 01:09:09.359
she's smarter than this i know she's better than

01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:12.720
this And I want better for her. And Emma just

01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:14.939
texted me. She said she's still here. It's just

01:09:14.939 --> 01:09:17.960
incredibly loud. She thought Andy was telling

01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:19.659
Joellen and Rula to save it because they were

01:09:19.659 --> 01:09:22.640
going on a break. And he's also the hottest he's

01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.460
ever been. I don't disagree with that. Andy Conway?

01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:28.930
Emma, I totally agree. He's literally, and he's

01:09:28.930 --> 01:09:30.250
got this new boyfriend now. I don't know if you

01:09:30.250 --> 01:09:32.470
guys have heard or seen that. Yeah, it's so annoying

01:09:32.470 --> 01:09:35.109
because I'm so jealous. He's like madly in love

01:09:35.109 --> 01:09:37.789
with the boyfriend. So I think his priorities

01:09:37.789 --> 01:09:39.310
are starting to shift and like, you know, he's

01:09:39.310 --> 01:09:42.050
got those two kids and all that. Oh, he wants

01:09:42.050 --> 01:09:46.270
to have a family. He's settling down. I'll swing

01:09:46.270 --> 01:09:53.210
with him and Joellen if he wants to. I was going

01:09:53.210 --> 01:09:54.649
to say, speaking of Joellen, did you catch, by

01:09:54.649 --> 01:10:00.020
the way, that joellen got left out of mother's

01:10:00.020 --> 01:10:04.279
day by her sister and her mom i'm not shocked

01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:08.460
by that because we talked about the scene at

01:10:08.460 --> 01:10:11.420
the grandpa's house with the mom and i think

01:10:11.420 --> 01:10:14.720
that joellen really needed that to heal and i

01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:17.260
think that joellen's mom is a lot like my mom

01:10:17.260 --> 01:10:21.899
and i i get left out of a lot of stuff too so

01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:26.939
We need to talk about that. So you're relating

01:10:26.939 --> 01:10:29.579
to her in all of that. Oh, the way that, like,

01:10:29.579 --> 01:10:33.020
I recognize so much of, like, my childhood and

01:10:33.020 --> 01:10:36.279
what Joellen describes from her childhood, it's,

01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:40.819
like, I'm shocked that, like, she is... Actually,

01:10:40.859 --> 01:10:42.359
I'm not shocked she's like this because I'm exactly

01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:43.859
the same way where I'm, like, aggressive and

01:10:43.859 --> 01:10:46.340
I'm, like, I don't let things go. Like, I get

01:10:46.340 --> 01:10:48.180
exactly where she's coming from, 100%, yeah.

01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:51.260
That is crazy. And it sucks because it's, like,

01:10:51.380 --> 01:10:54.390
I... I think that Joellen, like when they did

01:10:54.390 --> 01:10:57.310
the thing where it's like, I want to go forward

01:10:57.310 --> 01:10:58.810
from here because I do believe that Joellen meant

01:10:58.810 --> 01:11:02.229
that. And I think she thought her mom was going

01:11:02.229 --> 01:11:04.529
to follow through on that. And it turned out

01:11:04.529 --> 01:11:06.270
to be like something super similar to what Whitney

01:11:06.270 --> 01:11:07.710
Rose went through on Salt Lake City, where it's

01:11:07.710 --> 01:11:12.649
like, I had the hope. And here we are. Oh, my

01:11:12.649 --> 01:11:17.590
God. I'm happy. Are you relieved that there's

01:11:17.590 --> 01:11:21.380
somebody on TV who is? you can kind of point

01:11:21.380 --> 01:11:25.000
to as a human and go that i'm experiencing that

01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:27.840
like almost like have a cliff note version for

01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:33.039
friends that maybe don't understand no i mean

01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:37.439
i i it's i guess it's like i'm not alone in the

01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:39.420
world in my experience because i don't think

01:11:39.420 --> 01:11:41.760
my experience like with you know some of the

01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:43.840
stuff like from my childhood is unique at all

01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:49.000
like it's unfortunately but um i guess it's like

01:11:49.420 --> 01:11:53.140
it's interesting to see like how people like

01:11:53.140 --> 01:11:56.659
that turn out and i'm just like i like i i i'm

01:11:56.659 --> 01:11:58.420
not glad she went through it but like i'm just

01:11:58.420 --> 01:12:03.460
like yeah game recognizes game i guess i think

01:12:03.460 --> 01:12:05.399
her and that sister though can we talk quickly

01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:08.579
about that something is off with the sister and

01:12:08.579 --> 01:12:11.199
and her husband and joe ellen and i can't figure

01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:15.260
out what it is it's it for all of us bravo fans

01:12:15.260 --> 01:12:18.409
where we've watched this for I mean, I think

01:12:18.409 --> 01:12:19.970
we would all be experts, the amount of hours

01:12:19.970 --> 01:12:21.770
we've spent watching these shows. Sure. Doesn't

01:12:21.770 --> 01:12:24.369
something just strike you wrong with that sister?

01:12:27.750 --> 01:12:31.149
Yes. Or curious, I should say. Not wrong. There's

01:12:31.149 --> 01:12:32.670
something curious about her. Something goes off,

01:12:32.789 --> 01:12:36.789
yeah. Yeah. It's like, a couple things. I don't

01:12:36.789 --> 01:12:38.670
think she knows how to act on camera. I think

01:12:38.670 --> 01:12:41.289
that's why Joanne didn't make a big deal out

01:12:41.289 --> 01:12:50.460
of it. Two. i i i look at what the sister like

01:12:50.460 --> 01:12:53.539
flirting with gary and like i literally put in

01:12:53.539 --> 01:12:55.460
my notes i was like i would be a thousand times

01:12:55.460 --> 01:12:58.020
worse if i was in that scenario because i am

01:12:58.020 --> 01:13:01.619
i'm into gary so like i would throw myself at

01:13:01.619 --> 01:13:09.319
him too i get it like um i i i think it's it

01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:11.760
feels off because we're recognizing that like

01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:14.100
i that's not really the behind that it's just

01:13:14.100 --> 01:13:16.359
like it's they're on camera it's awkward they

01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:17.800
don't know like it's like i don't know what to

01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:19.520
do with my hands right now it's weird but yeah

01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:22.539
like i i don't i don't i didn't read too much

01:13:22.539 --> 01:13:24.680
into it honestly okay but just going back to

01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:26.520
the mother's day thing the sister nine including

01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:29.500
joe ellen and mother's day feels very flip flappy

01:13:29.500 --> 01:13:33.579
in terms of how the sister is trying to be very

01:13:33.579 --> 01:13:35.659
aligned with joe ellen now and then all of a

01:13:35.659 --> 01:13:38.210
sudden and and the sister's not even a mother

01:13:38.210 --> 01:13:40.710
and she left joellen out of mother's day like

01:13:40.710 --> 01:13:45.529
that to me is just feels like there's a lot more

01:13:45.529 --> 01:13:48.050
going on than what we've gotten the glimpse of

01:13:48.050 --> 01:13:50.689
um i think she was picking the easier fight to

01:13:50.689 --> 01:13:54.529
have with your mom so i guess i'll have my sister

01:13:54.529 --> 01:13:56.949
be mad at me i guess that is her mother yeah

01:13:56.949 --> 01:13:58.829
so she's celebrating her mother and yeah you're

01:13:58.829 --> 01:14:01.090
right you're right okay i'll drop it it's the

01:14:01.090 --> 01:14:03.590
conspiracy inside me is i'm like there's something

01:14:03.590 --> 01:14:08.180
no i mean i think that like and again like maybe

01:14:08.180 --> 01:14:09.960
i'm like just not thinking too much into it because

01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:12.739
i'm like i did that last week like i i know what

01:14:12.739 --> 01:14:17.659
happened like right but like i i do get where

01:14:17.659 --> 01:14:19.600
you're coming from like something does it's like

01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:22.460
it's like uncanny valley almost where it's like

01:14:22.460 --> 01:14:24.439
i don't know what i'm looking at it's weird i

01:14:24.439 --> 01:14:28.039
get it you're you're right should we let's talk

01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:30.100
about kelsey for one second just to please please

01:14:30.619 --> 01:14:34.699
get through it but um the line of the only Rosie's

01:14:34.699 --> 01:14:37.180
line to Kelsey of the only co -worker you've

01:14:37.180 --> 01:14:40.180
had is the girl in Florida did you hear that

01:14:40.180 --> 01:14:43.500
I didn't what was she talking about she means

01:14:43.500 --> 01:14:48.720
the only girlfriend that Kelsey's oh so Kelsey

01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:50.939
shares her boyfriend with the girl in Florida

01:14:50.939 --> 01:14:53.880
and so she was saying the only job you've never

01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:56.520
had a job the only co -worker you've had is the

01:14:56.520 --> 01:15:03.329
girl Travis like the way that i was like who'd

01:15:03.329 --> 01:15:07.630
she work with in florida oh that's good that's

01:15:07.630 --> 01:15:11.590
good can i also for a second um where kelsey

01:15:11.590 --> 01:15:13.329
was like oh you don't suck your husband's dick

01:15:13.329 --> 01:15:15.630
and rosie was like no it's not really my thing

01:15:15.630 --> 01:15:19.529
like it's just the two of them right two of them

01:15:19.529 --> 01:15:23.210
i i do think kelsey between the two of them i

01:15:23.210 --> 01:15:25.630
enjoy rosie more than kelsey just because i think

01:15:25.630 --> 01:15:29.770
kelsey is really giving me vibes of like liz's

01:15:29.770 --> 01:15:32.850
lap dog i never think that's a good look as a

01:15:32.850 --> 01:15:35.569
real housewife i i've never appreciated somebody

01:15:35.569 --> 01:15:38.550
who shows up and is like you know oh i'm gonna

01:15:38.550 --> 01:15:40.890
just back travis and support travis because he's

01:15:40.890 --> 01:15:45.050
my very best friend um yeah i don't know she

01:15:45.050 --> 01:15:46.909
knows anyone else in the cast though right like

01:15:46.909 --> 01:15:50.869
i think that's it yeah true true yeah uh i'm

01:15:50.869 --> 01:15:54.170
trying to think no and and i frankly i think

01:15:54.170 --> 01:15:56.090
if kelsey could flip if we could flip kelsey

01:15:56.090 --> 01:15:58.090
we would hear all of liz's secrets because it

01:15:58.090 --> 01:16:01.010
seems like she holds a lot of them oh the way

01:16:01.010 --> 01:16:04.189
that like that the thing like from the very first

01:16:04.189 --> 01:16:06.449
episode check out like from the ongoings thing

01:16:06.449 --> 01:16:08.850
like i was like oh this is someone who has seen

01:16:08.850 --> 01:16:12.010
this a million times and she yes keep it moving

01:16:12.010 --> 01:16:14.569
yeah i know exactly yeah yeah yeah like she's

01:16:14.569 --> 01:16:16.989
he's been on the coke run with liz you know as

01:16:16.989 --> 01:16:20.090
dino has used their boat you know something like

01:16:20.090 --> 01:16:22.130
that right the fact that she literally hooked

01:16:22.130 --> 01:16:26.789
up with dino and he's like you know getting all

01:16:26.789 --> 01:16:29.470
these charges i'm like there's so much more here

01:16:29.470 --> 01:16:32.569
i cannot wait to watch it unfold i i wonder where

01:16:32.569 --> 01:16:35.609
all of the like x's money comes from like i wonder

01:16:35.609 --> 01:16:37.350
if there's any connection there like because

01:16:37.350 --> 01:16:42.680
i mean never home so like i mean miami is the

01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:45.520
coke capital of the world so like right right

01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:48.340
i don't know yeah what what's your thoughts just

01:16:48.340 --> 01:16:50.279
because we've not talked until this day what

01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:52.420
are your thoughts on kelsey like having him pay

01:16:52.420 --> 01:16:54.939
for everything you know there's a school of two

01:16:54.939 --> 01:16:56.840
thoughts right like that it's despicable that

01:16:56.840 --> 01:16:58.880
she's still having him pay for stuff but also

01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:01.039
it's like it's despicable at all why not the

01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:04.590
money and it's like they were together for 10

01:17:04.590 --> 01:17:07.550
years and she approached it like someone who

01:17:07.550 --> 01:17:09.909
went into a marriage with a uh with a prenup

01:17:09.909 --> 01:17:11.729
i i don't see a thing in the world wrong with

01:17:11.729 --> 01:17:15.989
it because i think they ended it amicably i think

01:17:15.989 --> 01:17:18.090
that i mean if we're gonna take it all at face

01:17:18.090 --> 01:17:19.770
value because there is some talk behind the scenes

01:17:19.770 --> 01:17:22.369
about like they were broken up for six months

01:17:22.369 --> 01:17:26.449
before they started filming so like i i can i

01:17:26.449 --> 01:17:28.829
can argue both sides of that i don't have a problem

01:17:28.829 --> 01:17:30.329
in the world with her getting her stuff paid

01:17:30.329 --> 01:17:32.880
for because if he's not gonna pay for it another

01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:37.659
guy is true and because she's like she can get

01:17:37.659 --> 01:17:40.359
anyone she wants and i think that might have

01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:42.079
been part of his deal with her in the beginning

01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:44.779
like it seems very much like they had a business

01:17:44.779 --> 01:17:47.760
deal to some extent it was not just some entangled

01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:50.800
lovers you know loving relationship there was

01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:53.140
some element of like if there was a contract

01:17:53.140 --> 01:17:55.260
in the background i wouldn't be shocked not a

01:17:55.260 --> 01:17:56.739
prenup but just like this is how this is going

01:17:56.739 --> 01:18:00.300
to work and i think i think as an older gentleman

01:18:00.300 --> 01:18:03.680
who's probably done really well he was like no

01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:05.460
i want you around i don't want you at a nine

01:18:05.460 --> 01:18:08.439
to five or a nine to six i want you around so

01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:11.260
by default she's like okay then like i expect

01:18:11.260 --> 01:18:14.579
yeah i expect financial my finances to be taken

01:18:14.579 --> 01:18:17.779
care of including if i move out you know give

01:18:17.779 --> 01:18:21.520
her that runway or whatever but also i something

01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:23.579
i will give the guy because i do think that that

01:18:23.579 --> 01:18:25.500
dynamic could become very very toxic and very

01:18:25.500 --> 01:18:28.729
ugly very very quick the fact that he said hey

01:18:28.729 --> 01:18:32.890
you had like the tumor thing happen and i want

01:18:32.890 --> 01:18:34.449
to make sure you're still getting those two mris

01:18:34.449 --> 01:18:37.369
here i do like something in me was like oh he

01:18:37.369 --> 01:18:40.949
cares about her like yeah i agree that was lovely

01:18:40.949 --> 01:18:47.729
that was lovely i totally um but then we go over

01:18:47.729 --> 01:18:50.609
to liz trying to make it nice with alicia about

01:18:50.609 --> 01:18:52.630
that homeless thing that did come back up and

01:18:52.630 --> 01:18:56.399
like i think she started to trying and apologize

01:18:56.399 --> 01:19:00.699
but like it went super left and I she like kept

01:19:00.699 --> 01:19:05.699
calling Joellen the devil and like that I don't

01:19:05.699 --> 01:19:07.239
know why that triggered me but I was like oh

01:19:07.239 --> 01:19:10.539
why are you being so mean to my friend Joellen

01:19:10.539 --> 01:19:15.880
I want her to be okay yeah I uh I think at the

01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:22.079
end of the day Joellen I think at the end of

01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:25.239
the day that Liz is not well liked by any of

01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:29.720
them and it's going to keep unraveling and it's

01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:33.500
manifesting in my mind as, you know, Joellen

01:19:33.500 --> 01:19:38.220
like, you know, didn't kowtow to her and now

01:19:38.220 --> 01:19:42.020
Liz is really mad about it. Liz is one of the

01:19:42.020 --> 01:19:44.680
most interesting people I've ever experienced

01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:50.909
because I think she just has such an old, I hate

01:19:50.909 --> 01:19:53.170
to say it again, but mobster mentality of like

01:19:53.170 --> 01:19:55.229
where the loyalty should sit and whose ring you

01:19:55.229 --> 01:19:59.350
should kiss and on all of that. something that

01:19:59.350 --> 01:20:02.689
I want desperately to happen before I die I want

01:20:02.689 --> 01:20:04.890
to hang out with her and Dolores together because

01:20:04.890 --> 01:20:08.310
I feel like it would heal something in me like

01:20:08.310 --> 01:20:11.390
I would love that but like so I'll be super honest

01:20:11.390 --> 01:20:13.850
I kind of stopped paying attention until we got

01:20:13.850 --> 01:20:16.529
to the very very end of their reunion and I'm

01:20:16.529 --> 01:20:18.189
going to throw this one up on the screen too

01:20:18.189 --> 01:20:20.250
because this is what I was talking about where

01:20:20.250 --> 01:20:23.670
Rula turned into my aunts from Kentucky and we're

01:20:23.670 --> 01:20:48.739
just gonna Yeah, let's see it. Yeah, husband's

01:20:48.739 --> 01:21:08.970
a slut. i want someone to look out for me the

01:21:08.970 --> 01:21:11.489
way that alicia is looking out for rula's face

01:21:11.489 --> 01:21:13.770
like it's no no she's got her face down you can't

01:21:13.770 --> 01:21:18.569
i love her so much but like i did not think that

01:21:18.569 --> 01:21:22.600
that venom would come out of Rula but like I

01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:26.939
kind of like it honestly yeah I agree with you

01:21:26.939 --> 01:21:30.600
I also it's like what accent have we turned into

01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:35.739
on this final scene I love it I but it's they

01:21:35.739 --> 01:21:39.199
all start to talk in this like really heavy accent

01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:41.680
I'm like oh my god this is the fighting accent

01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:44.560
this is the fighting it's like it's the same

01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.279
thing that comes out when I'm in Kentucky with

01:21:46.279 --> 01:21:49.260
my family and we all like we get a little too

01:21:49.260 --> 01:21:52.239
mad that's exact i'm telling you like you like

01:21:52.239 --> 01:21:56.819
revert to this place of like like yeah really

01:21:56.819 --> 01:22:01.640
reptilian it's like your husband's a yeah i love

01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:04.359
it the way that she was like guess what like

01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:08.359
i it was oh it's i'm telling you right now like

01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:11.159
i don't know that we needed a three -part reunion

01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:13.340
like i'm glad that it's too just a two -part

01:22:13.340 --> 01:22:15.819
reunion i think that they are going to pack so

01:22:15.819 --> 01:22:22.029
much into this I'm sad that this season is over.

01:22:22.170 --> 01:22:25.550
I love this show. It was a breath of fresh air.

01:22:26.649 --> 01:22:30.489
Also, it's rare, I think, for... I don't think

01:22:30.489 --> 01:22:32.909
housewife shows get usually a reunion after season

01:22:32.909 --> 01:22:34.850
one, but I think this one had such high viewership

01:22:34.850 --> 01:22:37.770
that they went with it. Usually, I think the

01:22:37.770 --> 01:22:40.109
tradition is you don't get a reunion until season

01:22:40.109 --> 01:22:42.609
two, until you can kind of prove that there's

01:22:42.609 --> 01:22:46.300
longevity in the show. Oh, because we haven't

01:22:46.300 --> 01:22:48.319
had a season one in so long since Salt Lake City.

01:22:48.479 --> 01:22:50.000
Okay, I was like, what are you talking about?

01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:51.899
I was like, we just watched the one in Salt Lake

01:22:51.899 --> 01:22:53.859
City, but they also kind of did the same thing.

01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:55.859
But yeah, no, you're right, because Atlanta didn't

01:22:55.859 --> 01:22:58.859
have one. Orange County had a backyard. Yeah,

01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:01.539
you're 100 % right. Or they do it in the Watch

01:23:01.539 --> 01:23:05.279
What Happens live studio as well. I might be

01:23:05.279 --> 01:23:06.800
wrong on that, but I do think that was supposed

01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:07.800
to be the tradition. No, you're 100 % right,

01:23:07.859 --> 01:23:11.569
yeah. Yeah, like this is... They, they knew that

01:23:11.569 --> 01:23:13.609
they had lightning in a bottle here and I'm glad

01:23:13.609 --> 01:23:16.909
that like, it was a short season. It was like,

01:23:16.909 --> 01:23:20.869
like we got just enough and I don't, we didn't

01:23:20.869 --> 01:23:22.649
have a single filler episode either. Like that

01:23:22.649 --> 01:23:26.850
was also like, this is solid gold. I love it.

01:23:26.949 --> 01:23:30.369
Yeah. Well, I love what they, they were so honest

01:23:30.369 --> 01:23:33.369
on the, on the surface about all of their, all

01:23:33.369 --> 01:23:37.289
of their kind of dalliances and gossipy things

01:23:37.289 --> 01:23:41.710
that it can only get. better you know we we're

01:23:41.710 --> 01:23:43.850
not dealing with little chit chat how's the weather

01:23:43.850 --> 01:23:45.689
we're dealing with like we already know about

01:23:45.689 --> 01:23:48.270
joel allen's past we already know about kelsey's

01:23:48.270 --> 01:23:50.989
past we're not finding this stuff out like we're

01:23:50.989 --> 01:23:53.069
through it now it's like it can only get more

01:23:53.069 --> 01:23:56.449
fun you know um right and i think that like when

01:23:56.449 --> 01:23:58.189
we come back for season two because like they've

01:23:58.189 --> 01:24:00.329
already started filming season two because like

01:24:00.329 --> 01:24:03.390
they wanted to make it happen quick i feel like

01:24:03.390 --> 01:24:06.729
we're gonna get real healing on yeah a lot of

01:24:06.729 --> 01:24:09.069
the women's parts there and like it's i'm telling

01:24:09.069 --> 01:24:12.229
you like i this is a good good good one i like

01:24:12.229 --> 01:24:17.430
it i love it too but uh but that's the end of

01:24:17.430 --> 01:24:20.130
the reunion and i so like we always ask like

01:24:20.130 --> 01:24:22.130
if you could be friends with anyone on this cast

01:24:22.130 --> 01:24:27.529
who would you pick and i i think hands down alicia

01:24:27.529 --> 01:24:32.430
would be okay but you know what i actually would

01:24:32.430 --> 01:24:34.869
love to be part of i don't want to be best friends

01:24:34.869 --> 01:24:36.890
with rosie but i want to be part of the rosie

01:24:36.890 --> 01:24:40.880
ashley friendship i do think they're very real

01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:44.659
friends and live i do too and i i like i i we

01:24:44.659 --> 01:24:46.520
were talking to someone else a couple of weeks

01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:49.199
ago and i said i think i'd be like obviously

01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:52.180
i'm gonna say joellen every time but like i think

01:24:52.180 --> 01:24:54.619
that ashley is probably of all the women on that

01:24:54.619 --> 01:24:57.239
show probably one of the most genuine and like

01:24:57.239 --> 01:25:00.399
just a really good solid friend too yeah totally

01:25:00.399 --> 01:25:04.539
i agree with you oh my gosh it was fabulous This

01:25:04.539 --> 01:25:07.199
was so much fun. And I, I mean, you got your,

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you and Jessica are welcome. Anytime you want

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to come back. I feel like we could do this all

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day. And yeah. And I feel bad that like you have

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a crying baby there. I hope you're still with

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us, but, but yeah, you get it. But thank you

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for being here. Tell everyone where they can

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find you. Yes. So you can find us on any, any.

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place where you listen to podcasts, but specifically

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on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And you can follow

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us at Conspiracy Reality Podcasts and then find

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our link there as well. Absolutely. Thank you

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so much for being here. And from Indy to Chicago

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to Block Island, Rhode Island. Thank you for

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being here. We love you and we'll see you next

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time.