the government doesn't want my thoughts.

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Hi, I'm Travis. I'm Emma. This is Bestie Approved.

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What's the last song you listened to? It was

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the Bluey theme song. Calms Augie down these

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days. He loves Bluey. Do you know who else loves

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Bluey? Every Child in America. Every Child in

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America and Boomer. Did you know that they like

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the show is like colors that dogs can recognize

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and like it calms Boomer. Oh my gosh. So cute.

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It's so cute. I love that show. I also think

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Boomer actually really loves. Like, Australian

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and British accents. Because, like, he'll watch,

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like, he will lock in, like, when I'm watching

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Ladies of London. Oh, yeah. I'm so serious. It's

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the cutest thing ever. Is he part healer? Probably.

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He's a little mind. I don't know. My last song

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was Like a Prayer by Josh Fawaz. It said. It's

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a DJ on YouTube or on TikTok who like all of

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his songs sound like they belong somewhere between

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like Los Angeles and Ibiza. Do you know what

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I'm talking about? No. Okay. There are lots of

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DJs on TikTok I like, though. I don't know any

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of their names. Well, one of them is Josh Fawaz.

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And it's he like he does a lot of like Madonna

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remixes like that's it's never like Madonna's

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voice. It's always like a cover of it. But I

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like it. Probably the copyright, babe. Nar. Trademarked

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voice. Nar copyrights. This is going to be our

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one year anniversary episode. How precious and

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cute. Do you want to know what I did to prepare

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for this episode? No. I went back and I listened

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to the first couple of episodes we did. No, I'm

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actually terrified to do that. No, thank you.

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It was un - listenable like we i'm good like

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i think episode three or four is where like we

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started to get comfortable on the mic and like

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it wasn't um it wasn't pulling teeth and painful

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yeah But, like, there is something really, like,

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we're so innocent. It's, like, we're going into

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this. It's nostalgic. It is. It's so cute. And,

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like, I remember sitting in that multimedia room

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at the Carmel Clay Public Library. Yeah. Like,

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watching it rain. The vibes in there didn't help.

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The, like, tight nature of things. Of, like,

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being nervous and anxious. And then also in this

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tiny room. Yes. Yeah. But also. I very vividly

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remember you like and I was like, I didn't think

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we were nervous, but I very vividly remember

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you going, we can do this. I'm not nervous. And

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I like I was like, oh, my God, we were so nervous.

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I think I was like less nervous to actually record

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the podcast and more like it's something I've

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never done before. And I don't know the ramifications

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of such things, you know? Yeah, I think that's

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more what it was. I don't know. In that same

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vein, my mom was saying she was listening to

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like older episodes, like trying to catch up.

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And she was like, the end of your pregnancy is

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hard to listen to. Babe, you can't breathe. And

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I was like, ooh. You're right. I know I couldn't.

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It's the end of your pregnancy. And it's like

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your first couple of episodes back. Because I

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like. Yeah. I knew you wanted to come back. I

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could tell. My stepmom watched the episode we

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did. I think it was when we did Real Housewives

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of Rhode Island with husbands watching housewives.

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Yeah. She said, you sound tired. Yeah. Because,

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like, you weren't sleeping, like, at all. Yeah.

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But I've really enjoyed the last year of doing

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this. I've had, like, so much fun doing this.

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It is fun. And, like, we've made podcast friends.

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And I was, like, going through, like, some of

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the guests we've had on. We've said it before,

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but I love Husbands Watching Housewives. I love

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like Jolenta Greenberg, who she was the first

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one that came on when you were on your pregnancy

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break. And like I like I like I went back and

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I was like, oh, she's like I she told me to like

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check out her book and like I loved her book.

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And like I was like, we've made. A ton of really

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cool friends. And I've just really loved this.

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Yeah. You've even traveled. I did. I went to

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Dallas. I fully forgot about that. Yeah. We need

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to figure out if we're doing like podcast movement

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like both of us this year. Yeah. Because it's

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in September and they moved it to New York. It's

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a whole thing. I don't know if I want to go to

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New York for it because like that's. What if

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it's like a stop on my first time in New York?

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You've never been to New York, have you? Yeah,

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we can do that. We can go. I don't care. I can

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do all the touristy things. You can roll your

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eyes the whole time. It'll be so fun. Yeah, we

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can do that. That's fine. Whatever you want.

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I don't care. It's fall in New York. How cute.

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September, I will say September in New York is...

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beautiful like it is it's like the time to go

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it's well it's like the city stopped smelling

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like pee because you know they have the horses

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like that's that's a big thing and like the entire

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city smells like piss it's a whole thing um yeah

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we can go i don't care yeah we'll we'll figure

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that out we'll update you guys much closer to

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september um but what else um i we edited the

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list a lot This week because we had a lot. This

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is now like the fifth time we've tried to record

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this episode. Take five on episode 35. August

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does not wanted us to have this. But he's being

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really incredible today. He's sitting here with

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us. He's growing teeth. And also he's almost

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six months old. And so he's just like verbal

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and angry. He is. He's got a lot to say. And

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his legs are just a moving. Bless you. Bless

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you. You're so cute. But I had a wedding in Kentucky.

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It's like last week now where I saw all of my

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Kentucky family. I found out every one of them

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listens to this podcast. Which I love. So hi,

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Megan. Hi, Amy. Hi, Autumn. Hi, Mary. Hi, everyone.

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Because this is how I found out is like I knew

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Mary listened because Mary. said something to

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autumn about it autumn's the cousin i'm closest

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to and she's like i found travis michael on uh

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on the tiktok and she was like what are you talking

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about she's like it's this little cartoon phase

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or something and i was like oh she found the

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podcast tiktok and thank god for that thank god

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for that can you imagine she found your tiktok

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well i don't like i've never posted on my tiktok

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but like have you reposted anything though Because

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you can see that. I don't. I'm sure I have. But

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like, I do know that when people follow my TikTok,

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it immediately resets their algorithm to like

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nothing but shirtless men running around. This

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is something I've been told about my TikTok,

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my Instagram. I know what you like. So there's

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that. Oh, you have reposted things, but they're

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not scandalous. Oh, yeah. No, I'm like, I can't

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imagine. I'm like reposting some of this stuff

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that actually shows up on my TikTok. But then

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I was my cousin, Megan. She's the one that has

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100 kids. I'm sorry, Megan. I forget constantly

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how many kids you have, but she's got like seven

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or eight kids. And she was over talking to Autumn

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and me at the wedding. I turn around and she's

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like, I'm just real into the Real Housewives

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of Salt Lake City. And I was like, oh, yeah,

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Emma and I talk about that on our podcast. She

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was, I know, I listen to it every day. I was

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like, I had to go back and I was like, have I

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talked bad about her on this podcast? And I don't

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I don't think I have. I think about that all

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the time. Like whenever anyone says anything

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about the podcast, I'm like, oh. I also don't

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think I've had anything negative to say about

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Megan. Like I. No, no. And I, I don't think we,

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I think we would check each other if we started

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speaking poorly on our family on a public platform.

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It's not really what we stand for. But yeah,

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I just hello to my entire Kentucky family. We

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also have a guest here today. It's Kenny. Hi,

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Kenny. Do you want to say anything on the mic?

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No. He's like, he doesn't deserve the spotlight.

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Not today. What else? Also, I know I've tried

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to start this conversation a thousand times and

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like halfway through it is where we get cut off

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with by by one Mr. August. Yeah, he really does

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not approve of the conspiracy. Maybe that is

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the thing. But have you seen this woman on TikTok

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who? August. Did you just pet him like a dog?

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He likes head scratches. He really does. To be

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fair. I do, too. I get that. But have you seen

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this woman on TikTok who is promoting this? It

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looks like a beekeeper mask. Yeah. And she. It's

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it's got silver like woven into it, I guess,

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like Lululemon shorts and it's blocking out what

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EMF waves. I don't I don't know what it's blocking

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out, but she believes the long and short of it

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is that the government is trying to steal her

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thoughts and dreams. And now that she started

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sleeping in this mask, she can remember her dreams.

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She can. She can she can pray now. She can get

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through a whole prayer. And like I was talking

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about, like getting distracted. Yeah. Like they

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couldn't get through a prayer because they get

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so distracted. And a couple of things. One, I

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don't. Like this, this, this whole new age, like.

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It feels like it fits in the same vein of like

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that 4 a .m. club woman who believes that like

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she was getting messages tonight that Kamala

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Harris lost the 2024 election. Like where. It's

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like you're you're getting messages from someone

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like the 5G is trying to steal your your like

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thoughts and. I have to be so real with you.

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Like, I just want to ask all these people, like,

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what what what do you think they're trying to

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get? Like, what do you think? What do you think

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is in there that they're like after? I like hope

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it's clickbait because it's more concerning if

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they truly are believing this. There's whole

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websites and businesses built around this. Yeah.

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But anyone's after a check. I mean, the horror

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like a. I just said whore because I cut myself

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off. Sorry. The whore. I'm just kidding. What

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I was going to say is the horoscope writer for

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Cosmopolitan, a former one, came out and said,

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I've made literally all of those up. I couldn't

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tell you the difference between the signs right

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now. People will do it for a check. I would prefer

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that people are honest about that. Oh, yeah.

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Because here's the thing. This like I went down

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this like rabbit hole on TikTok because like

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my TikTok at night is very different from my

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TikTok during the day. I don't know if you experience

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the same phenomenon, but like my TikTok at night

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turns into the earth is flat. There's something

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like inside of the wall in Antarctica. There's.

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Oh, God. Oh, God. I love these people. The wall

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that is Antarctica. But like this is the thing

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is like I. I don't subscribe to any of these

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conspiracy theories. I don't know why like I

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will listen to these because it's just like it's

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like I want to like catch them in something almost.

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It's almost like like a sci fi novel. It's like

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entertaining to hear their little stories and

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whatever. I used to watch YouTube videos about

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conspiracy theories I don't believe in all the

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time. Well, it's it's that it's it's the JFK

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assassination. It's the new ones, Charlie Kirk

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and like Candace Owens and like the whole thing

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there. Like there's a lot of that. And there

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are some things that have teeth. i'll give them

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that the denver airport is weird the denver airport

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that's another one that like shows up all the

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time is that like horse with the red eyes yeah

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it did kill the artist that made it that is true

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is it possessed by a demon no it's just heavy

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babe but that's okay right and like and this

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is this is the thing is like i think we have

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to be able to like delineate between some things

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are just creepy and weird and then like but we

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don't have to like fall down the rabbit hole

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immediately to like doomsday prepper stuff because

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that's where this like the woman in the beekeeper

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mask that's where her whole thing leads is like

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they're they're trying to they're trying to like

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get us like the the the vaccines the whole thing

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and i'm like babe you gotta stop with that like

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you You have to know that, number one, if if

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the zombie apocalypse comes, just give me the

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bullet. I'm not interested. I don't want to know

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what comes next. Good for you for thinking that

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you can survive that and like do whatever to

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populate the world or whatever the mission is.

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I don't want to be a part of that either. As

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soon as food is not readily available to me,

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I'm out. If I can't go to an Arby's, I don't

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want to go. outside and like this is the thing

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is like i've talked about this before where my

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aunt tanya is is someone who i think she dabbles

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in the doomsday prepper space i think that like

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in their defense something i think about a lot

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sorry no no no please let me say that at the

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end it's we've been doing this since the beginning

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of time yes if you think about like old mythology

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We've been scared of the end of the world since

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the beginning of the world. And how many, like,

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just us alone, how many ends of the world have

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we lived through? It was 2000. It was 2001. It

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was 2012. There was something in, like, June

00:14:49.649 --> 00:14:52.750
6th of 2006 was supposed to be the end of the

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world. Y2K, obviously. Yeah. But we've been doing

00:14:55.940 --> 00:14:58.279
that forever. Yes. Right. The Greeks, the Romans,

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they've all they all did that where they were

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like, it's the fear of the unknown, like for

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them, weather and things like that. And for us,

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like whatever that may be, we don't understand

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this new technology or we don't understand this

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or that. And so paired with the fear of death,

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I think. This has been going on forever and ever

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and ever. Right. And like, I think to myself,

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if there is anywhere that I want to be, like

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my cousin Megan's house is one of them because

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she's one of these, she's like a homesteader

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where like she. She's prepared. She's prepared.

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Well, I don't know if she's like prepared like

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for the end of the world so much as like she

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has like seven kids. So she just like jars tomatoes.

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I would love to go to a couponer's house too.

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I want to get into that later, too, because I

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have something about that. But like and then

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Tanya's house is like I've never seen such a

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well -stocked basement of like if you are ever

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hungry. I'm telling you, like during covid, she

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was like, if you need toilet paper, come over

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here because I've got it. Like she is this person.

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I still don't want to experience it. I'm so sorry.

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And like it's it comes back to this thing of

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like. Number one, I want to know what makes people

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think they're interesting enough to like be the

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the generation that lives through the end of

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the world. Like that's number one, because we've

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been doing it since the beginning of time. Number

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two, why is everything a conspiracy about the

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end of the world? Because like, do you remember

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the 5G thing? Yeah. Yeah. It was going to penetrate

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all of our brains or whatever. And we had friends

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during COVID that believed. wholeheartedly that

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the COVID shutdown was a hoax to get us in the

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house so they could put up the 5G towers and

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get more birds in the sky because the birds were,

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the birds were all part of it too. The birds

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were surveilling us or something. Oh, that's

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been around forever. Birds aren't real. They're

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all government devices. Okay. Which is crazy.

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is a conspiracy because for how many centuries

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have we been shooting down birds? Yes. What do

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you mean? I don't know. I don't know. But like

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I just like I don't I want to come back to like

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the this whole thing about like stealing the

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thought stuff because like what do you like what

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do you think they're getting out of it? Like

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you're so special that they need to know what's

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on your mind queen. Yes. And I'm like and like

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i i swear to god like i thought the first video

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and i'll put this on the bestie approved tiktok

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but like i thought the first video she posted

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was a joke and then like she is so serious about

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this like it's it's like her wearing the mask

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it's like she's inside of this like pyramid thing

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with like a diamond at the top like she's like

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I'm really like harnessing the energy and I'm

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like that's so scary okay that's what I thought

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about the that little girl who was frolicking

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into our target I thought it was just a little

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joke and then her whole TikTok was the same thing

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these people are living that life but like a

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serious question if 5g was stealing your thoughts

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what would 5g pick up on much as i've said before

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if i lived in massachusetts in whatever the 1600s

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or 1700s whenever that happened i would be burned

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for being a witch if i were alive in the 40s

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or 50s i would be lobotomized and 5g would Push

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my data to a supervisor with human eyeballs because

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they would be like, we need to flag this one.

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Something's wrong. If it picks up on it, if it

00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.259
picks up on me, it's literally only going to

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get like men running around in shorts and then

00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:10.759
not that one. Hang on. This song. Spread it open

00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:12.779
and flick the bean. I'm Joey. I'm proud of the

00:19:12.779 --> 00:19:20.359
pussy queen. That's all it's picking up on. Yeah,

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I've got nothing to give. The government doesn't

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want to know. I've got nothing for them. They

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know that. It's like it's picking up on me in

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my mind. I don't know if you do this, like if

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it's a holdover from like third grade or whatever,

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but it's like me repeating to myself nine times

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five is 45. Like I do that a lot. Eight times

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eight is 64. It's literally, if they could examine

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the contents of my brain, right? I have so many

00:19:47.980 --> 00:19:52.319
song lyrics. Yes. Like, how boring. You don't

00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:56.460
need that. Go on Spotify. I've got, I remember

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weird stuff that I don't need to remember. Like,

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I can remember sequential numbers for a stupid

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amount of time. Nothing fun, babe. Nothing. I

00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:09.809
don't know how to make a bomb. I'm not going

00:20:09.809 --> 00:20:12.369
to. They know how to make a bomb. They don't

00:20:12.369 --> 00:20:16.630
need that for me. They have nuclear. They have

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all kinds of shit. I have no idea about. Do you

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think these people are thinking the flip side

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of that is that they are controlling our thoughts?

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Maybe. Well, I said the woman that like on TikTok,

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one of her like in that comment section was I

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haven't been able to get full through a full

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prayer. I have a feeling that that quickly goes

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down the rabbit hole of they're trying to control

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my religion. I put this one in there late, but

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did you see this TikTok of a woman who wrote

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a book about. All of the biblical reasons and

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the biblical citations of why Donald Trump was

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ordained by Jesus Christ or God himself to lead

00:21:03.730 --> 00:21:08.710
this country. Okay. I saw the TikTok, yeah. She

00:21:08.710 --> 00:21:14.549
puts this on TikTok and I was ready to rage like

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you would not believe. And then she proceeds

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to open up this book. And I think she did this

00:21:20.769 --> 00:21:22.430
on purpose because I think she like wanted to

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catch people and like. Get her over to Amazon

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or whatever. But she like proceeds to open a

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book with nothing but blank pages. And I said,

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oh, you got me. And I hang out. I want to find

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her name real quick because I actually do want

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to shout her out. I was ready to drag her within

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an inch of her life. Good, good gallery. OK,

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I like that. At the Diary of Rihanna. Is she

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a Rihanna fan page? I didn't catch that. I don't.

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I would hope so, because I would I think that

00:21:50.980 --> 00:21:53.579
most pages should be Rihanna fan pages. Because,

00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:59.839
you know, Rihanna is bad. Oh, yes. OK, yeah.

00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:04.920
The book is literally her TikTok bio. But her.

00:22:05.980 --> 00:22:09.079
Her TikTok bio is I heart Jesus cats and talking

00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:11.000
shit about diet culture and Christian nationalism.

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And I feel like we should try to get her on the

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pod because she is our target demographic. Oh,

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100 percent. I'm trying to see how many copies

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she sold. I have it pulled up right now. Does

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it say? I don't know if Amazon tells you. I do

00:22:31.049 --> 00:22:35.970
know that it's got 111 reviews with a 4 .8 star

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average. I like that. Wait, I want to see who

00:22:39.289 --> 00:22:46.789
put no stars. Hold on. Oh, my God. I have to

00:22:46.789 --> 00:22:49.250
sign into Amazon to read the reviews. I wanted

00:22:49.250 --> 00:22:53.230
to see if someone fell for it. My God. Whatever.

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You get it. You get it. I would love to. I see

00:23:00.509 --> 00:23:03.170
like just the reaction of someone who's like,

00:23:03.210 --> 00:23:05.250
do you ever, I don't know if I've talked to you

00:23:05.250 --> 00:23:06.589
about this. I know I've talked to a couple of

00:23:06.589 --> 00:23:08.849
other people about this. The, um, that podcast,

00:23:08.970 --> 00:23:11.529
it's like the family, it's the two very liberal

00:23:11.529 --> 00:23:15.319
children with their. mega parents that it's called

00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:16.839
the necessary conversation if you've seen this

00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:20.460
I would love to see the dad or the mom's reaction

00:23:20.460 --> 00:23:23.099
to this book where they're like I'm gonna get

00:23:23.099 --> 00:23:26.500
a book about my friend Donald Trump and they

00:23:26.500 --> 00:23:28.440
open it up and it's stuff they put blank pages

00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:30.660
and they're like where are the bible verses that

00:23:30.660 --> 00:23:32.839
say he is supposed to lead this country into

00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:38.539
greatness so yeah I thought that was a funny

00:23:38.539 --> 00:23:43.130
little thing um oh the one star reviews are Missing

00:23:43.130 --> 00:23:46.390
the appendix with the Epstein files. It's a joke.

00:23:46.509 --> 00:23:48.750
The book is blank. It's been done before. Save

00:23:48.750 --> 00:23:52.430
your money. It's a money grab. Yes. And you spent

00:23:52.430 --> 00:23:54.869
your money on it, you stupid. It was barely usable

00:23:54.869 --> 00:23:57.730
as toilet paper. Love a good fiction book, but

00:23:57.730 --> 00:24:01.809
this was A .I. Slop. Don't think you opened the

00:24:01.809 --> 00:24:07.250
book, babe. It's a blank book, my love. I don't

00:24:07.250 --> 00:24:10.490
think that person knows what is going on, but

00:24:10.490 --> 00:24:16.309
yeah. Um, and then this, I feel like I've heard

00:24:16.309 --> 00:24:18.630
this one before and like, I don't know why it

00:24:18.630 --> 00:24:21.549
came up. It literally in my Apple news feed.

00:24:21.970 --> 00:24:26.190
Oh, it's like an old interview too. I know what

00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:28.250
you're talking about. Yeah. Um, hello. Kitty's

00:24:28.250 --> 00:24:35.950
not a cat, but she is in my heart. So like, isn't

00:24:35.950 --> 00:24:40.730
art. It's however you perceive it. It's interpreted

00:24:40.730 --> 00:24:43.750
by the viewer, and I choose Hello Kitty to be

00:24:43.750 --> 00:24:45.730
a cat because I think it's creepy that it's a

00:24:45.730 --> 00:24:47.450
little girl. I don't like that she's three apples

00:24:47.450 --> 00:24:51.450
tall if she's a human. First of all, she's five

00:24:51.450 --> 00:24:57.410
apples tall, and she weighs three apples. Well,

00:24:57.970 --> 00:25:02.230
I'm a fake fan anyway. Weird, weird, weird. I

00:25:02.230 --> 00:25:06.170
don't like it. I have a couple of questions.

00:25:07.019 --> 00:25:09.339
So she's actually a little this is from the from

00:25:09.339 --> 00:25:13.579
the People magazine interview of like. And I

00:25:13.579 --> 00:25:16.759
also didn't know Hello Kitty was like a Barbie

00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:19.799
level brand. Like, like it is a big deal. And

00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:24.970
I think it's. Also, I thought Hello Kitty existed

00:25:24.970 --> 00:25:29.069
in the same world in Japan that like Sailor Moon

00:25:29.069 --> 00:25:32.369
lived in. No, but there is a Sanrio world, which

00:25:32.369 --> 00:25:34.710
is why I think this is where it gets weird for

00:25:34.710 --> 00:25:37.130
me. And I don't really trust this random woman

00:25:37.130 --> 00:25:39.490
that they're interviewing because it's not a

00:25:39.490 --> 00:25:42.430
random woman. It is the PR person for Hello Kitty.

00:25:42.970 --> 00:25:48.750
In the Sanrio universe, how can we have them

00:25:48.750 --> 00:25:51.589
all look like different animals? If they're not

00:25:51.589 --> 00:25:53.390
animals, I don't understand. Is it a little girl

00:25:53.390 --> 00:25:56.289
that's dressing up as a cat? But then what about

00:25:56.289 --> 00:25:59.390
the rest of them? I can't I can't understand

00:25:59.390 --> 00:26:03.549
that. Like, is Melody also a girl? What about

00:26:03.549 --> 00:26:06.869
cinema role is? I have no idea what you're talking

00:26:06.869 --> 00:26:12.450
about here. Like, this is. Let me show you. Anyway.

00:26:12.589 --> 00:26:16.930
OK, so according to the People magazine article,

00:26:17.210 --> 00:26:20.609
she's. Hello Kitty is actually a little girl

00:26:20.609 --> 00:26:23.289
born and raised in the suburbs of London. She

00:26:23.289 --> 00:26:26.609
was from Japan. I remember that from my childhood.

00:26:27.690 --> 00:26:30.009
She has a mom and dad and a twin sister named

00:26:30.009 --> 00:26:32.250
Minnie, who is also her best friend. She enjoys

00:26:32.250 --> 00:26:35.869
baking cookies and making new friends. OK, number

00:26:35.869 --> 00:26:39.529
two, she weighs three apples and is five apples

00:26:39.529 --> 00:26:43.950
tall. How? Oh, OK, I know what you're talking

00:26:43.950 --> 00:26:46.289
about. OK, Emma just showed me. It doesn't make

00:26:46.289 --> 00:26:49.920
sense. Pictures of the Sanrio universe. Anime

00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:54.740
characters in my mind. Sure. But like, you can't

00:26:54.740 --> 00:26:58.579
tell me these are all people. No. So she she

00:26:58.579 --> 00:27:00.460
weighs three apples, but she's five apples tall.

00:27:00.579 --> 00:27:06.119
How are you taller than you weigh? Aren't you?

00:27:09.420 --> 00:27:12.920
If you're five apples tall, doesn't it stand

00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:17.289
to reason that you would weigh five apples? Why

00:27:17.289 --> 00:27:19.930
are we measuring in apples? It's supposed to

00:27:19.930 --> 00:27:23.230
be cutesy little girl fun time, but they fucked

00:27:23.230 --> 00:27:26.049
it all up by saying that she is a little girl.

00:27:26.289 --> 00:27:30.849
But also Hello Kitty has a pet cat named Charmy

00:27:30.849 --> 00:27:33.990
Kitty. Yeah, I did know that. Why is Hello Kitty?

00:27:35.630 --> 00:27:38.390
They haven't they never really clarified if she

00:27:38.390 --> 00:27:41.009
is like, is she wearing the Hello Kitty like

00:27:41.009 --> 00:27:45.269
hat head? Is that what I don't understand? There's

00:27:45.269 --> 00:27:48.549
a whole ass deer in the Sanrio universe. You're

00:27:48.549 --> 00:27:50.369
telling me that's a person too? No, probably

00:27:50.369 --> 00:27:53.529
not. That's probably her pet. Fire the PR lady.

00:27:53.670 --> 00:27:56.589
She was just trying to get attention, I think.

00:27:57.609 --> 00:28:00.950
Also, in my mind, it's always been a cartoon.

00:28:02.349 --> 00:28:05.970
It started as a children's coin purse in 1975.

00:28:06.150 --> 00:28:08.549
That's where Hello Kitty made her first appearance.

00:28:08.849 --> 00:28:14.359
It didn't start as a TV show. Hello Kitty was

00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.700
a TV show, though, right? I don't remember seeing

00:28:16.700 --> 00:28:20.019
Hello Kitty on TV, but it could be. Maybe I'm

00:28:20.019 --> 00:28:24.099
just making this up. But yeah, she's a little

00:28:24.099 --> 00:28:28.619
girl. Okay, so it was started in Tokyo, Japan.

00:28:29.059 --> 00:28:38.809
Yes. I feel like this... Do you know how J .K.

00:28:38.849 --> 00:28:41.650
Rowling and I don't respect her as a person anymore,

00:28:41.730 --> 00:28:45.069
but like I do respect the world she created with

00:28:45.069 --> 00:28:48.269
Harry Potter. Do you know how like she's given

00:28:48.269 --> 00:28:51.109
interviews and she's talked about like in her

00:28:51.109 --> 00:28:54.029
head? Oh, yeah. I just ignore all of that. Well,

00:28:54.109 --> 00:28:56.970
these characters still exist like and like there's

00:28:56.970 --> 00:28:59.480
a whole lore to them and like they're like. I

00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.500
ignore all of that. Really? Yeah. When she started

00:29:02.500 --> 00:29:05.240
talking about their sexualities and pissing me

00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:07.640
off, I was like, oh no. I'm talking about like,

00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.420
um, where like she, like she started, like she

00:29:11.420 --> 00:29:13.680
started writing Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's

00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.019
Stone and she knew how the books would end. Oh

00:29:16.019 --> 00:29:17.980
yeah, yeah, yeah. She knew the whole story at

00:29:17.980 --> 00:29:21.480
the beginning. I have to imagine that they put

00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:27.500
this cat on a coin purse in 1975. It sold really,

00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:29.490
really well. And they were like, oh, fuck now

00:29:29.490 --> 00:29:31.369
we have to come up with a story are you ready

00:29:31.369 --> 00:29:34.369
to complain I'm ready to complain and I don't

00:29:34.369 --> 00:29:36.369
even have to look to remember what I wrote down

00:29:36.369 --> 00:29:44.089
I am so upset I miss Jamie Ding on Jeopardy and

00:29:44.089 --> 00:29:48.289
I know that means nothing to you but just know

00:29:48.289 --> 00:29:52.170
okay let me talk about Jamie Ding for a second

00:29:52.170 --> 00:29:54.529
hi Jamie Ding if you listen to my podcast I'll

00:29:54.529 --> 00:29:59.559
faint every morning we watch Right. Because they

00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:02.200
come out once a week. I don't really. Right.

00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.660
We don't have to really pay attention to it.

00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:07.039
Yeah. It's beautiful. You can kind of turn your

00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.039
brain off, too. It's kind of like Ted Lasso in

00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.460
my mind. Yeah. It's feel good television. Yeah.

00:30:11.500 --> 00:30:15.180
There's there's nothing that makes me feel any

00:30:15.180 --> 00:30:19.319
type of way on Jeopardy. Yeah. Until Jamie Dean.

00:30:19.819 --> 00:30:24.650
He is the cutest little. Asian guy, probably

00:30:24.650 --> 00:30:28.410
like 30s who lives in New Jersey and is like,

00:30:28.410 --> 00:30:32.130
oh, you know, I love him school and he's a bureaucrat

00:30:32.130 --> 00:30:37.509
and he is so sweet. He's like the most likable

00:30:37.509 --> 00:30:41.049
person I've seen in years. Yeah. Love him to

00:30:41.049 --> 00:30:45.630
death. He goes on like like a 35 game streak

00:30:45.630 --> 00:30:48.970
or something. Oh, wow. So he was on our television

00:30:48.970 --> 00:30:54.000
for 35 weeks. Well, he's like they do one episode

00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:57.779
every weekday. So like six weeks. Oh, OK. And

00:30:57.779 --> 00:31:01.819
I was like, he's the next star. He is everything

00:31:01.819 --> 00:31:05.839
to me. Yes. Yes. And I'm like, please, please

00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:08.599
keep going. I love him so much. He's like really

00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.900
taken off on social media, but it's really kind

00:31:10.900 --> 00:31:14.880
of his sister. Oh, OK. Anyway, I'm complaining

00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:19.420
because he lost and the guy he lost to only lasted

00:31:19.420 --> 00:31:21.460
for two more games. And then the girl who beat

00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:24.539
him lost the next game. And I was like, so for

00:31:24.539 --> 00:31:28.000
what? He was so good. Jamie Dean was so good.

00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.119
And now we have to wait to see him again to see

00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.299
if they'll bring him back for like the tournament

00:31:34.299 --> 00:31:38.019
of champions or something. But I miss him. Oh,

00:31:38.140 --> 00:31:41.519
and that's what I'm complaining about. I'll take

00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.890
that. That's a good complaint. Yeah. I'm complaining

00:31:44.890 --> 00:31:48.769
about the fuck ass moderators on the 3D printing

00:31:48.769 --> 00:31:56.049
subreddit. Air them out. OK, so as I've talked

00:31:56.049 --> 00:31:58.690
about on this podcast, I bought a 3D printer.

00:31:58.789 --> 00:32:01.410
I love my 3D printer. I think it is the coolest

00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:06.170
thing I. like if they would have existed when

00:32:06.170 --> 00:32:08.509
I was a little kid, I probably would have gone

00:32:08.509 --> 00:32:10.829
into an entirely different industry because of

00:32:10.829 --> 00:32:16.650
how much I love my 3d printer. So as I am want

00:32:16.650 --> 00:32:20.890
to do, I go all in on it. I joined every cyber.

00:32:20.930 --> 00:32:22.950
It's the exact same thing I did when we started

00:32:22.950 --> 00:32:25.250
the podcast. I joined every podcast subreddit.

00:32:25.309 --> 00:32:27.150
I like, so when I bought my 3d printer, I joined

00:32:27.150 --> 00:32:31.509
every 3d printer subreddit. I like, I, I follow

00:32:31.509 --> 00:32:35.869
all of the TikTokers that do 3D printing. You

00:32:35.869 --> 00:32:38.549
know, I'm obsessed with that, that one YouTuber

00:32:38.549 --> 00:32:40.569
that does 3D printing. He's really, really hot.

00:32:40.690 --> 00:32:41.970
I don't know where he's from, from New Jersey.

00:32:43.789 --> 00:32:48.450
Love him. So I tried a new kind of filament to,

00:32:48.490 --> 00:32:50.309
and I was, I don't remember what I was 3D printing,

00:32:50.369 --> 00:32:52.009
but like I was, oh, I do remember what I was

00:32:52.009 --> 00:32:55.650
3D printing. It was, it was a Apple watch. holder

00:32:55.650 --> 00:32:58.269
so I could charge it like like mounted to my

00:32:58.269 --> 00:33:02.269
desk. Yeah. And like the filament would not print

00:33:02.269 --> 00:33:06.390
right. And so I think to myself, there's a community

00:33:06.390 --> 00:33:08.829
of 3D printers out there that can probably answer

00:33:08.829 --> 00:33:10.650
this question for me because I have done everything

00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:12.470
on God's green earth to make this print right.

00:33:12.589 --> 00:33:15.450
So I take a picture of the messed up 3D print.

00:33:15.950 --> 00:33:20.369
I give the settings that I was printing on. I

00:33:20.369 --> 00:33:25.410
give the brand and filament type and I. Go to

00:33:25.410 --> 00:33:27.809
the subreddit and I post. I said, hey, can anyone

00:33:27.809 --> 00:33:32.690
tell me what I'm doing wrong? Immediately, I

00:33:32.690 --> 00:33:35.549
get a message that says you've been banned from

00:33:35.549 --> 00:33:39.549
posting in the subreddit. I hate Reddit moderators

00:33:39.549 --> 00:33:43.839
for that reason. And I said. Did I do something

00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.000
wrong? Like, did I attach my nudes to this? I

00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.559
was like, what did I do? I was like, did I accidentally

00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:56.180
post from the wrong Reddit account? I was like,

00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:00.539
what did I do? So I go into the message. Do you

00:34:00.539 --> 00:34:02.839
want to know what the reason they banned me from

00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.819
posting in the subreddit was? You know already,

00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:09.880
but literally not having clout, not having enough

00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:13.219
karma. I said, what the fuck is that? What the

00:34:13.219 --> 00:34:15.579
fuck do you mean? What is karma? Like, first

00:34:15.579 --> 00:34:18.099
of all, I did. I've never heard this term before

00:34:18.099 --> 00:34:19.900
in my life. I didn't know what that meant. I

00:34:19.900 --> 00:34:22.440
had to Google what is what is Reddit karma? Oh,

00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.579
my God. Yeah. It's basically just upvotes, which

00:34:25.579 --> 00:34:27.519
is so fucking annoying. How are you supposed

00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:29.679
to get them if you can't post anywhere? But like,

00:34:29.699 --> 00:34:35.250
I was like. I want you, Mr. and Mrs. Reddit,

00:34:35.349 --> 00:34:38.590
to be so fucking for real right now. You, Mr.

00:34:39.389 --> 00:34:42.010
Moderator and the 3D Printer subreddit, you take

00:34:42.010 --> 00:34:45.150
yourself so seriously and you think your pussy

00:34:45.150 --> 00:34:49.789
is so pink that someone has to have a certain

00:34:49.789 --> 00:34:57.900
level of karma. To post in the 3D printer subreddit

00:34:57.900 --> 00:35:01.440
is like, go kill yourself. Stupid fucking rule,

00:35:01.539 --> 00:35:04.239
first of all, but also for breaking the rule,

00:35:04.340 --> 00:35:06.480
they didn't just take your post down. You are

00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.880
banned. I am banned from posting in that subreddit.

00:35:10.059 --> 00:35:12.760
Why can't they just take your post down? I would

00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.199
get banning you if you were like actually doing

00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.119
some vile shit or like if whatever. If you were

00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:24.139
being mean or sexual in the 3D printing space.

00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:27.159
That would be weird, yeah. Then ban them. But

00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:36.300
just asking a question? I've never seen anything

00:35:36.300 --> 00:35:41.139
like it. So, like, imagine this scenario. I'm

00:35:41.139 --> 00:35:43.539
on a throwaway Reddit account because I'm making

00:35:43.539 --> 00:35:46.250
my wife a gift. I need help with this and this.

00:35:46.309 --> 00:35:48.289
Please help me. But it's their first post because

00:35:48.289 --> 00:35:49.510
it's a throwaway account. They're banning you.

00:35:49.530 --> 00:35:53.050
They're banned. Oh, my God. Like, can you imagine?

00:35:53.670 --> 00:35:57.429
What is wrong with people? I don't get it. I've

00:35:57.429 --> 00:35:59.769
never seen anything like it. So that's what I'm

00:35:59.769 --> 00:36:01.929
complaining about today. 3D printing, Reddit,

00:36:02.210 --> 00:36:05.469
moderators, get a job. Get a grip. A real job

00:36:05.469 --> 00:36:10.190
that will pay you. Ugh. Okay. Are you ready for

00:36:10.190 --> 00:36:15.699
reality roundup? I am. I'm conflicted about this.

00:36:17.139 --> 00:36:19.119
Secret Lives and Mormon Wives is getting an Orange

00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:25.619
County spinoff. Yeah. So my take is a lot of

00:36:25.619 --> 00:36:28.679
the girls want to move to California. Sure. We've

00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.780
seen Jen's already moved, right? Whitney will

00:36:31.780 --> 00:36:34.699
want to move if she hasn't already. Well, Whitney's

00:36:34.699 --> 00:36:36.940
leaving Secret Lives entirely. She announced

00:36:36.940 --> 00:36:40.420
that on her closing show at Chicago on Broadway.

00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.780
which is beautiful for her she should have i

00:36:43.780 --> 00:36:47.940
think she's better off like i i saw her performing

00:36:47.940 --> 00:36:53.019
she is she looks happy she looks so happy she

00:36:53.019 --> 00:36:56.539
is far above that show yes she didn't need to

00:36:56.539 --> 00:37:00.800
be a reality tv villain like she can she can

00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:03.000
dance and she's fun and she's cute whatever it

00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.000
got her off the ground though fine and then michaela

00:37:07.190 --> 00:37:10.489
I've seen so many posts about her skin is doing

00:37:10.489 --> 00:37:13.849
better when she's traveling, which I think is

00:37:13.849 --> 00:37:17.010
her soft launch to also moving to California.

00:37:19.289 --> 00:37:21.929
Taylor Frankie Paul has to be out of the picture

00:37:21.929 --> 00:37:24.090
at this point. She's it's already been announced.

00:37:24.210 --> 00:37:26.050
She's not coming back for season five. Like they're

00:37:26.050 --> 00:37:27.690
cutting her out of season five. And thank God.

00:37:27.690 --> 00:37:31.849
But I still won't watch that fuck ass show. That's

00:37:31.849 --> 00:37:33.789
my take. I think they're just all moving to California

00:37:33.789 --> 00:37:40.309
anyway. So. I have a different take. A lot of

00:37:40.309 --> 00:37:42.969
producers from the Real Housewives universe,

00:37:43.110 --> 00:37:45.449
like because it's not it's not Bravo that produces

00:37:45.449 --> 00:37:46.710
the Real Housewives. It's different production

00:37:46.710 --> 00:37:49.989
companies. A bunch of those producers from all

00:37:49.989 --> 00:37:52.070
of the different production companies came over

00:37:52.070 --> 00:37:54.889
to produce Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Yeah,

00:37:54.949 --> 00:37:57.539
I think they are. desperately trying to turn

00:37:57.539 --> 00:37:59.800
this into the real housewives because they've

00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:02.619
seen how successful that is and like hulu wants

00:38:02.619 --> 00:38:05.719
to get in on that and hulu's already kind of

00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.380
cashing in on the lisa vanderpump of it all yeah

00:38:08.380 --> 00:38:12.500
so she's all over hulu yes all over the place

00:38:12.500 --> 00:38:15.480
which i love lisa vanderpump that's totally fine

00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:20.090
with me but i think if you're if you're going

00:38:20.090 --> 00:38:21.849
to sign up for this real house i was saying you

00:38:21.849 --> 00:38:24.449
have to be ready number one the fans are rabid

00:38:24.449 --> 00:38:26.949
like this like i'm like i'm talking like the

00:38:26.949 --> 00:38:29.150
new jersey fans of theresa judice like me with

00:38:29.150 --> 00:38:31.650
bethany frankel like you have to be ready like

00:38:31.650 --> 00:38:35.469
where some of them are going to feel very strongly

00:38:35.469 --> 00:38:38.760
about this and number two some of these cities

00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:41.900
are flops so like it's a lot of trial and error

00:38:41.900 --> 00:38:43.360
if you're if this is what you're trying to turn

00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.380
it into because i cannot imagine it's going to

00:38:45.380 --> 00:38:47.280
stop there because i've already seen some like

00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:50.559
rumblings about there's um in orlando they're

00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.460
trying to start them like their own iteration

00:38:52.460 --> 00:38:55.320
of mom talk and like i have to assume like that's

00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.260
like them trying to soft launch something there

00:38:57.260 --> 00:39:02.179
so i i wonder if it's they're trying to create

00:39:02.179 --> 00:39:05.769
a secret lives universe which is fine But just

00:39:05.769 --> 00:39:08.530
prepare yourself like it took a long time for

00:39:08.530 --> 00:39:10.730
housewives to get to where housewives is today.

00:39:10.949 --> 00:39:14.670
And they have a lot of work to do. The timeline

00:39:14.670 --> 00:39:21.969
of things, the editing, the I don't know. They

00:39:21.969 --> 00:39:26.449
just need to polish it a lot, a lot. But I also

00:39:26.449 --> 00:39:30.469
fear that like as much as I love Macy, as much

00:39:30.469 --> 00:39:34.139
as I love. She's better than being on reality

00:39:34.139 --> 00:39:38.159
TV, too. Actually, I don't know that anyone's

00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:42.619
better than reality TV. Like, there's no one

00:39:42.619 --> 00:39:45.199
better in this world than Portia Williams. But

00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.699
she's not cut out for it. Portia Williams was.

00:39:50.250 --> 00:39:52.769
born to be on the Real Housewives of Atlanta.

00:39:53.050 --> 00:39:56.070
100%. And I'm like, hey, Michelle, like everyone

00:39:56.070 --> 00:39:58.389
that's on Atlanta right now, everyone that's

00:39:58.389 --> 00:40:00.429
on Rhode Island right now, those women, they

00:40:00.429 --> 00:40:03.550
were born and bred for this. I think what you

00:40:03.550 --> 00:40:09.409
have with Mom Talk is a situation where they

00:40:09.409 --> 00:40:13.409
were very successful in one place in social media.

00:40:13.489 --> 00:40:15.090
So like, let's put them on TV because there is

00:40:15.090 --> 00:40:17.389
some interesting stuff there. Yeah. I think without

00:40:17.389 --> 00:40:19.570
Taylor Frankie Paul, the show is not going to.

00:40:19.769 --> 00:40:26.650
be successful no i fear no no one's i mean because

00:40:26.650 --> 00:40:31.010
like i love macy right but she's not holding

00:40:31.010 --> 00:40:33.409
she's not carrying that child like she's carrying

00:40:33.409 --> 00:40:38.489
scenes she thank the lord and whoever you believe

00:40:38.489 --> 00:40:41.750
in doesn't have that much drama at home so it's

00:40:41.750 --> 00:40:43.710
like what like there's nothing to watch which

00:40:43.710 --> 00:40:46.190
is beautiful i don't want her to have drama she's

00:40:46.190 --> 00:40:50.789
a peaceful queen i just And I like Macy. I like

00:40:50.789 --> 00:40:54.429
her on. We need to get her book still. We do

00:40:54.429 --> 00:40:59.510
need to get her book. She doesn't carry the show

00:40:59.510 --> 00:41:04.690
because she's unproblematic in a way that. She's

00:41:04.690 --> 00:41:08.570
beautiful and smart and even keeled, which is

00:41:08.570 --> 00:41:13.570
not what you need on reality TV. And even someone

00:41:13.570 --> 00:41:16.590
like Michaela, who I struggled so much with,

00:41:16.610 --> 00:41:19.099
she. She was good for reality TV because she's

00:41:19.099 --> 00:41:23.480
like, I hate. She'll let it out. Yeah. Like I

00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:28.039
hate Whitney. Whitney. She hated Whitney. Yes.

00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.320
And like they they she hated Whitney. And that

00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.219
carried half of season two, by the way. Yeah.

00:41:36.460 --> 00:41:40.280
She and she's funny. She's like sticking a jab

00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:43.880
or whatever. And she's funny. But I don't know

00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.619
that like. If you're putting her with a new group

00:41:46.619 --> 00:41:49.639
of women, I don't want her to be. I hate someone

00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:51.480
else because it's like it's like Teresa Giudice

00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.260
and Melissa Gorg all over again. I don't want

00:41:53.260 --> 00:41:55.840
to. I can't watch it. I'm sorry. And I think

00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.300
I think I like her like as a person. It's just

00:41:59.300 --> 00:42:02.579
like I love her on TikTok. I love her on TikTok.

00:42:02.659 --> 00:42:05.320
Yeah. It's just like the same way that I would

00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.300
not make a good reality TV show. A lot of the

00:42:08.300 --> 00:42:11.320
girls on there would not by themselves. Look

00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:13.679
at Demi. If there's no one for her to be able

00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:18.349
to. Who cares? Also, if there is someone for

00:42:18.349 --> 00:42:22.110
her to be evil to, I don't want to watch Demi.

00:42:22.130 --> 00:42:25.530
I know, me neither. I have a feeling, because

00:42:25.530 --> 00:42:28.469
they tried really hard in season one to build

00:42:28.469 --> 00:42:31.210
the show around her and Taylor. I'm not interested

00:42:31.210 --> 00:42:34.690
in watching Demi. I'm so sorry. No. I hate her.

00:42:34.829 --> 00:42:37.349
I liked her the first season, but I think it

00:42:37.349 --> 00:42:39.230
was literally just because I thought she was

00:42:39.230 --> 00:42:45.239
so pretty. I hate how pretty she is. Like she's

00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.519
stunningly gorgeous. Yeah. But like, I hate it

00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.760
because I'm just like, get off my TV. I hate

00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:56.820
you. And by the way, she is gorgeous. That's

00:42:56.820 --> 00:42:58.860
not her face. I think about that every time I

00:42:58.860 --> 00:43:02.460
think about her. That's so crazy. Whoever did

00:43:02.460 --> 00:43:05.059
her work honestly did a wonderful job because

00:43:05.059 --> 00:43:07.519
I can't tell she got a new face, but she totally

00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.300
did. So there's that. I don't know. I don't.

00:43:12.940 --> 00:43:16.679
I don't know. And first of all, I Orange County

00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.719
does feel like a choice for that because of how

00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.139
conservative it is. I don't love. I just feel

00:43:22.139 --> 00:43:25.260
like it's not made for me anymore. It's not like

00:43:25.260 --> 00:43:27.659
I'll see the posts about it on social media and

00:43:27.659 --> 00:43:32.719
that'll be enough for me. I just really I mean,

00:43:32.820 --> 00:43:35.619
even getting through what season season three

00:43:35.619 --> 00:43:38.320
was the last one we watched. I didn't really.

00:43:38.860 --> 00:43:42.619
enjoy watching the back half of it no and I think

00:43:42.619 --> 00:43:45.599
the show needed Taylor but I was over Taylor

00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:53.260
anyway I'm over her I think her what her charm

00:43:53.260 --> 00:43:55.800
is like was ultimately her detriment because

00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:57.539
like it's like the whole thing of like I'm showing

00:43:57.539 --> 00:44:02.500
up in sweatpants and a bodysuit and like I'm

00:44:02.500 --> 00:44:06.360
cool and like but like it just felt like She

00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.659
was almost too cool for it all. And like, oh,

00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.420
she stuck her nose up at those girls. And she

00:44:11.420 --> 00:44:14.119
said as much like in her interviews, like you

00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:16.719
can just tell. She's like, I'm the boss here.

00:44:17.019 --> 00:44:20.699
Everybody wants to be me. Which is a character.

00:44:20.820 --> 00:44:24.179
That's cool. Sure. Whatever. Stop throwing chairs

00:44:24.179 --> 00:44:28.300
at your kids. We did talk about that. I have

00:44:28.300 --> 00:44:31.420
not been able to get over. I'll never forget

00:44:31.420 --> 00:44:34.179
that. I hope I never see her fucking face again.

00:44:34.380 --> 00:44:35.820
And there, but here's the thing. There are two

00:44:35.820 --> 00:44:38.500
sides to this. We're like, I watched that and

00:44:38.500 --> 00:44:41.199
I see a woman who's been gaslit within an inch

00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:45.320
of her life and that, but like when you're pushed

00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:47.820
to that point, like I, and this is something,

00:44:47.980 --> 00:44:50.519
take your kid and leave. And like, this is something

00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:54.800
where like, you've talked about like how, like

00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.039
sometimes you just have to like put August down

00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:00.840
and like, just like think for a little bit. She

00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:05.619
does not have that... I don't know if it's maturity.

00:45:05.940 --> 00:45:08.420
She just doesn't have that thing about her where

00:45:08.420 --> 00:45:10.920
it's like, I can remove myself from a situation.

00:45:11.340 --> 00:45:17.969
And I can understand that, but like... I can't

00:45:17.969 --> 00:45:20.590
forgive her I can't forgive her and I know that

00:45:20.590 --> 00:45:25.050
they're in court right now and obviously we knew

00:45:25.050 --> 00:45:27.789
going in that like Dakota was pushing her buttons

00:45:27.789 --> 00:45:31.110
obviously and that's the other thing too is like

00:45:31.110 --> 00:45:35.650
there is not a person listening to you and me

00:45:35.650 --> 00:45:39.269
of all people who have we've all been like in

00:45:39.269 --> 00:45:41.769
toxic relationships that like it's just it's

00:45:41.769 --> 00:45:44.789
so good that like you can't get away from it

00:45:44.789 --> 00:45:48.559
and we've all talked out of character like everyone

00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:51.940
i know has screamed and hollered and yelled yes

00:45:51.940 --> 00:45:56.960
as soon as you start feeling your body getting

00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:01.519
enraged like as soon as you feel like you might

00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:06.679
not have control how do you as a mother and an

00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:12.760
adult not just sit down like you have to you

00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:17.369
have to I just can't. I'll never get over it.

00:46:17.449 --> 00:46:20.190
I really hope I never see her again. Well, and

00:46:20.190 --> 00:46:22.090
part of me feels bad for her because I'm just

00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:23.889
like, she'll never get up. Like, she'll never

00:46:23.889 --> 00:46:26.010
let that down. She had a chance. She already

00:46:26.010 --> 00:46:29.809
got arrested for domestic violence. Well, that's

00:46:29.809 --> 00:46:31.969
what this video was over. Like, that's when this

00:46:31.969 --> 00:46:35.030
video was from. Really? Yes. I don't think it

00:46:35.030 --> 00:46:37.610
is. I think that's more recent. He had held on

00:46:37.610 --> 00:46:40.449
to that video since that night. I thought there

00:46:40.449 --> 00:46:43.130
was another video. Because we've seen videos

00:46:43.130 --> 00:46:45.570
from the day she got arrested and she's not in

00:46:45.570 --> 00:46:50.369
like the same. I don't know. I could be completely

00:46:50.369 --> 00:46:54.570
wrong. Mama, let's research. But I hate the whole

00:46:54.570 --> 00:46:59.429
thing. Anyway, the next second chance was getting

00:46:59.429 --> 00:47:01.530
arrested and then getting a reality TV show.

00:47:01.630 --> 00:47:06.090
That was her second chance. And if this is from

00:47:06.090 --> 00:47:12.139
her initial arrest, why didn't she? Warn anyone

00:47:12.139 --> 00:47:18.119
Her millions of fans I have to assume What was

00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:23.199
happening there Was Like where Hindsight is 20

00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:25.599
-20 You could have taken all the power away from

00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.440
Dakota You could have put out a restraining order

00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:33.860
And you could have said We are done But she kept

00:47:33.860 --> 00:47:39.210
letting him back in And I think that was ultimately

00:47:39.210 --> 00:47:44.329
the downfall where like it's a toxic man. But

00:47:44.329 --> 00:47:48.869
yeah, there we are. So if anyone out there is

00:47:48.869 --> 00:47:50.989
watching the Orange County spinoff, let us know.

00:47:51.150 --> 00:47:59.269
But next thing on my list. Amanda Francis is

00:47:59.269 --> 00:48:01.769
I don't know if you've watched any of the Real

00:48:01.769 --> 00:48:06.000
Housewives of Beverly Hills because you. Sorry,

00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.900
backtracking because I found it really fast.

00:48:09.019 --> 00:48:14.039
Following a March 2026 incident, both parties

00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:18.000
filed for protective orders. Dakota was granted

00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:22.739
primary custody of ever. Oh, my God. Can you

00:48:22.739 --> 00:48:25.539
imagine giving that man of all people custody?

00:48:25.579 --> 00:48:28.260
It's that bad. Taylor's visitation is supervised.

00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:33.539
Jesus Christ. And she only gets 68 hours, six

00:48:33.539 --> 00:48:38.119
to eight hours a week. That's insane. Yeah. Well,

00:48:38.260 --> 00:48:42.239
now we know. This is separate from the 2023 physical

00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:47.320
altercation. This is separate from the body cam

00:48:47.320 --> 00:49:03.559
footage from that same. Well, now we know. I

00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:07.900
don't know if you've watched. Where was it? Oh,

00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:09.599
I don't know if you've watched The Real Housewives

00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.940
of Beverly Hills. Yeah, but not. I've heard it

00:49:12.940 --> 00:49:14.460
was so bad that I haven't watched it. It has

00:49:14.460 --> 00:49:17.440
gotten. I watched. So I watched the premiere

00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:22.480
with Husbands Watching Housewives. Yeah. I watched,

00:49:22.500 --> 00:49:24.179
I think, two or three episodes after that. I

00:49:24.179 --> 00:49:26.019
haven't been able to watch this season. Like,

00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:28.539
it's become. I just heard it's really. Unwatchable.

00:49:28.699 --> 00:49:31.960
Yeah. And like I and this is like Scott and Jeff,

00:49:32.059 --> 00:49:33.639
if you're listening to this, I'm sorry. And I

00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:37.840
know Kyle is your girl, but like Kyle is to me

00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:41.539
most of the problem with this show or like I

00:49:41.539 --> 00:49:45.039
can't like I it's it feels like she has a chokehold

00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.780
on production. And to be fair, Beverly Hills,

00:49:47.780 --> 00:49:50.300
since Lisa Rinna and Eileen Davidson have left,

00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:53.000
I think it's had this problem where like they

00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:57.719
take. They take one thing and that one thing

00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.539
becomes the entire fight of a season. We're like

00:50:00.539 --> 00:50:07.079
on Rhode Island, on Miami, on New York, on Potomac.

00:50:07.099 --> 00:50:12.239
Like it's it feels like they get into something

00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:14.579
new every week and like they don't like they

00:50:14.579 --> 00:50:17.219
don't live in a fight. But some of them like

00:50:17.219 --> 00:50:19.179
linger. But yeah, there's always something new

00:50:19.179 --> 00:50:21.889
going on. Yes. And I think that's the problem

00:50:21.889 --> 00:50:24.409
is like where we have in Beverly Hills. That's

00:50:24.409 --> 00:50:26.769
why it's become unwatchable for me. That being

00:50:26.769 --> 00:50:29.949
said, there is one of the housewives named Amanda

00:50:29.949 --> 00:50:33.949
Francis who fancies herself a manifesting queen.

00:50:37.309 --> 00:50:42.070
I have certain feelings about manifesting, but

00:50:42.070 --> 00:50:45.829
I'm going to keep them to myself. I won't. I

00:50:45.829 --> 00:50:50.019
think it's real, but not for the reason. people

00:50:50.019 --> 00:50:52.460
think it's real anyway but you're not paying

00:50:52.460 --> 00:50:55.780
Amanda Francis $900 a month so like yeah so this

00:50:55.780 --> 00:50:59.480
is the thing is Amanda Francis like started this

00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.559
company where she's like coaching people on manifesting

00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:04.559
I don't know what the whole the whole racket

00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.000
is but like it is it's like her thing is like

00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.800
become a money queen become rich AF become religious

00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:16.059
AF like it's all that religious AF is like it's

00:51:16.059 --> 00:51:23.530
so funny in itself yes And like it's cutesy,

00:51:23.570 --> 00:51:27.550
it's whatever. But like she there's a scene from

00:51:27.550 --> 00:51:29.670
when they're in Italy and she's talking to Rachel

00:51:29.670 --> 00:51:34.969
Zoe about how they have the lowest refund rate

00:51:34.969 --> 00:51:42.130
in the industry. And that's why she knows she's

00:51:42.130 --> 00:51:45.650
successful. And I would like to point to because

00:51:45.650 --> 00:51:49.659
I saw this and I said. Something doesn't feel

00:51:49.659 --> 00:51:51.940
right here because you don't talk about your

00:51:51.940 --> 00:51:56.039
refund rate unless unless something's off. So

00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:58.460
I did a little digging and I went to her terms

00:51:58.460 --> 00:52:00.400
and conditions on her website. Do you want to

00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:02.739
know what the terms and conditions say? I'll

00:52:02.739 --> 00:52:06.860
tell you. Hang on, because I read them line by

00:52:06.860 --> 00:52:11.179
line. Her refund rate is below three percent

00:52:11.179 --> 00:52:13.440
because you can only request a refund within

00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:18.349
48 hours of the purchase. If you've accessed

00:52:18.349 --> 00:52:21.010
any of the content, you can't request a refund.

00:52:21.690 --> 00:52:24.289
And the whole thing is like pushing you to the

00:52:24.289 --> 00:52:28.889
next like the next section. So it's a metric

00:52:28.889 --> 00:52:30.769
that has nothing to do with satisfaction. And

00:52:30.769 --> 00:52:32.969
it's more about not allowing someone to realize

00:52:32.969 --> 00:52:35.550
that they that it was a shakedown for cash until

00:52:35.550 --> 00:52:38.570
they realize that there's no value in it. And

00:52:38.570 --> 00:52:41.889
the Internet is currently dragging her to hell

00:52:41.889 --> 00:52:45.260
and back. And I feel like it's completely warranted.

00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.760
And I'll just end this on because I don't want

00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:49.760
to give Amanda Francis any more life. Like I

00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:53.500
I thought she was going to be a very good housewife

00:52:53.500 --> 00:52:55.019
because I thought she was going to come in. I

00:52:55.019 --> 00:52:56.559
thought she was going to give Dorit and Kyle

00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:58.860
a run for their money, because I think those

00:52:58.860 --> 00:53:04.619
those two have really they haven't been taken

00:53:04.619 --> 00:53:06.340
down in a way that I think they need to. And

00:53:06.340 --> 00:53:08.900
I swear I thought if Erica Jane wasn't going

00:53:08.900 --> 00:53:10.719
to do it, I thought Amanda Francis and Rachel

00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:15.980
Zoe were going to do it. I was wrong, but I would

00:53:15.980 --> 00:53:19.420
also imagine that Jennifer Shaw and Tom Girardi

00:53:19.420 --> 00:53:22.579
had a pretty low refund rate, too. Like I want

00:53:22.579 --> 00:53:25.920
an investigation. That's where I'm at with that.

00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:31.199
OK, are you ready to jump into? We're really

00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:33.059
close to the end of season one of The Real Housewives

00:53:33.059 --> 00:53:36.820
of Salt Lake City, and you have to decide what

00:53:36.820 --> 00:53:42.139
season we're doing next. Yeah, so that's. Hold

00:53:42.139 --> 00:53:48.039
on. Here's my, here's my struggle. What's your

00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:52.079
struggle? Do we stay within the real housewives

00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.880
universe or do we go to the greater Bravo verse?

00:53:55.940 --> 00:53:59.119
You tell me. I don't care. I also, I'm going

00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:03.000
to tell you, I, um, nerded out a little bit.

00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:10.719
I found, um, so the, there's like, a competitor

00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:14.099
of imdb that is called the movie database and

00:54:14.099 --> 00:54:19.260
like it has episodes of like every episode of

00:54:19.260 --> 00:54:22.519
shows and like their ratings or whatever um i

00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:28.820
ran an api script in python to like to pick out

00:54:28.820 --> 00:54:33.440
all of the bravo like reality show episodes and

00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.460
like i'm like reworking our website to like Do

00:54:36.460 --> 00:54:41.360
that. Well, to like have the episode of like

00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:43.599
the Real Housewives or whatever. Like and it's

00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:45.260
like, OK, this is the episode that we talked

00:54:45.260 --> 00:54:46.920
about that on. I'm like, I'm figuring out how

00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:51.639
I want that to look. But I I've I went to a place

00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:57.980
of coding to like figure this out. And I hate

00:54:57.980 --> 00:55:02.400
myself a little bit, but it's really kind. We'll

00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:04.400
do whatever you want. I don't care. Maybe we

00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.079
should do something you haven't watched this

00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:11.500
time. OK, I have not watched. There's a lot.

00:55:11.579 --> 00:55:13.639
I haven't watched Summer House. I've not. I haven't

00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.599
watched most of Vanderpump Rules. I haven't watched.

00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:24.659
What? That means you probably haven't seen like

00:55:24.659 --> 00:55:28.900
season two or three of Vanderpump Rules. I've

00:55:28.900 --> 00:55:32.300
seen like half of season one. I like. Oh, my

00:55:32.300 --> 00:55:38.820
God. You didn't. Vanderpump Rules is a product

00:55:38.820 --> 00:55:41.920
of its time. Yes, it is. I remember watching

00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:46.480
that first season and they just said whatever

00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.000
words they had at their disposal. Right. And

00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:53.420
reality TV was still kind of new if it wasn't

00:55:53.420 --> 00:55:58.380
like a very scripted like TLC type show. it takes

00:55:58.380 --> 00:56:00.159
a minute for them to get on their feet. Okay.

00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:04.519
So like the first season, the first season is

00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:11.099
a hard watch kind of, but then it's just chaos.

00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:13.400
You have to watch it. Well, let's watch Vanderbilt.

00:56:13.460 --> 00:56:16.500
We'll do Vanderbilt girls next. It's like before

00:56:16.500 --> 00:56:18.960
anyone cared about being politically correct.

00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.159
And you have Jax Taylor. Well, I remember Jax

00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:26.389
Taylor, like the whole. The whole shtick was

00:56:26.389 --> 00:56:28.170
like he was falling in love with like all the

00:56:28.170 --> 00:56:30.250
women that he worked with. And it's like I've

00:56:30.250 --> 00:56:32.929
known them for six minutes and I really, really

00:56:32.929 --> 00:56:35.829
like them. It's like that thing of like. Oh,

00:56:35.889 --> 00:56:37.949
yeah. You met someone at church camp and you

00:56:37.949 --> 00:56:40.730
really, really like. I think when he says really,

00:56:40.829 --> 00:56:43.150
really likes, he means he really, really would

00:56:43.150 --> 00:56:48.130
like to fuck them. Oh, yeah. It's TV gold. It

00:56:48.130 --> 00:56:51.170
really, truly is. I don't think they knew what

00:56:51.170 --> 00:56:55.260
they were. coming out they had no idea who they

00:56:55.260 --> 00:56:57.019
were gonna be let's do you want to do season

00:56:57.019 --> 00:56:59.800
one of we should do like season two or maybe

00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:02.719
season three okay i'm gonna look over the episodes

00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.599
and then decide okay they really do have true

00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:09.340
drama on that show they do and like i remember

00:57:09.340 --> 00:57:12.579
back to like They went to Hawaii and Jax got

00:57:12.579 --> 00:57:14.760
arrested for stealing sunglasses. Like, I remember

00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:17.460
that being a headline. Like, let's do let's do

00:57:17.460 --> 00:57:19.099
Vanderbilt rules. Like, and you pick the season,

00:57:19.179 --> 00:57:22.760
whatever you want. Also, this is something that

00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:24.400
we probably should have mentioned at the top

00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.300
of the show. And like, this is probably something

00:57:26.300 --> 00:57:27.960
that I haven't discussed with you fully yet.

00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:33.300
We're reworking the like the format of Best Year

00:57:33.300 --> 00:57:36.699
Approved. So I in the beginning of this, I wanted

00:57:36.699 --> 00:57:42.170
to. Like everyone knows that like reality TV

00:57:42.170 --> 00:57:46.449
is like is my love language. And I like if we're

00:57:46.449 --> 00:57:49.130
looking at the stats of it, the reality roundup,

00:57:49.150 --> 00:57:52.690
like people do skip to it very quickly. But like

00:57:52.690 --> 00:57:54.889
they're like half of the people will listen to

00:57:54.889 --> 00:57:57.869
the full episode. So what I the plan is to like

00:57:57.869 --> 00:58:01.909
break up like our like pop culture, like political

00:58:01.909 --> 00:58:04.150
commentary and like reality roundup is going

00:58:04.150 --> 00:58:08.000
to become its own episode. It also gives you

00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:10.079
more episodes to like flip through. Well, it

00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:13.320
gives you more episodes. They're more digestible

00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:16.059
because like it's the standard episode for us

00:58:16.059 --> 00:58:17.380
right now is like an hour and a half. So it like

00:58:17.380 --> 00:58:20.440
breaks down to like 45 minutes. It's quicker.

00:58:20.699 --> 00:58:23.000
It's and I think it becomes lighter. And like

00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.599
also it gives people like if if if your thing

00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:27.760
is reality roundup, I want you to have that.

00:58:28.139 --> 00:58:31.300
And also for us, like we can blow through an

00:58:31.300 --> 00:58:33.679
entire season in a couple of days and like we

00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:35.960
have that to like release. And so it's like more

00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:40.039
consistent. Um, but be prepared for that. Cause

00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:42.599
I'm very excited for that. Like, I like that

00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:45.780
too. Yeah. I think the opposite also exists.

00:58:46.300 --> 00:58:50.820
Like definitely within my family who listens,

00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:54.860
um, where they like, don't watch reality TV,

00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:57.260
but just want to listen to us yap on the podcast.

00:58:57.300 --> 00:58:59.300
So they might like the other part. You know what

00:58:59.300 --> 00:59:02.579
I mean? The thing is like a lot of the feedback

00:59:02.579 --> 00:59:07.480
that we get is, um, like I like just listening

00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:11.119
to them talk and like yeah and like it's it's

00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:12.400
like we're hanging out with the best friends

00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:14.420
it's like we're doing the thing and like and

00:59:14.420 --> 00:59:16.599
I will tell you like the episodes that we have

00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:18.659
with husbands watching housewives are very successful

00:59:18.659 --> 00:59:21.460
like some of the episodes that I've done is like

00:59:21.460 --> 00:59:25.800
just talking with whoever though aren't as successful

00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:28.360
because like I think it loses that like thing

00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:32.119
with us yeah and we got to give the people what

00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:35.480
they want but yeah I'm excited about that Yeah,

00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:37.659
me too. And I'm also excited to watch Vanderpump

00:59:37.659 --> 00:59:40.699
Rules because that is a group of children who

00:59:40.699 --> 00:59:43.320
had no idea that they had cameras on them for

00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:46.480
a while. And no business being on TV, which is

00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:50.159
perfect. And like, whatever season we watch,

00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.079
and I don't remember which season this was, I

00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:55.179
needed to start with the season where Stassi

00:59:55.179 --> 00:59:57.840
looked... I don't remember who she was looking

00:59:57.840 --> 00:59:59.820
dead in the face. And she goes, I am the devil.

01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:02.980
And you better remember that. Stassi Schroeder.

01:00:03.139 --> 01:00:04.920
God. I'm like, do you want to know something

01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:09.219
about her? She has grown into. An incredible

01:00:09.219 --> 01:00:12.239
mother, an incredible, just like stunning, kind,

01:00:12.380 --> 01:00:15.280
generous, beautiful woman. Yeah. She was just

01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:17.539
in her early twenties and the whole premise is

01:00:17.539 --> 01:00:19.840
these kids are trying to make it in Hollywood.

01:00:20.300 --> 01:00:22.920
And Lisa Vanderpump will hire them to work at

01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.760
the restaurant, but let them like go on auditions

01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.239
and stuff so they can pay the bills, but also

01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:31.619
like do what they want to do. That is the perfect

01:00:31.619 --> 01:00:37.039
place to start filming bullshit. I'm excited.

01:00:37.099 --> 01:00:40.559
I can't wait. And she, yeah, she was just, you

01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:44.579
know, I think she thought she was going to be

01:00:44.579 --> 01:00:47.320
a star. Like, and she was. She became a star.

01:00:47.380 --> 01:00:49.139
Like, she knew she was going to become a star.

01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.460
She had no idea in what capacity. She had no

01:00:51.460 --> 01:00:53.400
idea what avenue she was going to go down to

01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:55.519
become a star. She just knew that she was going

01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:58.039
to get there. Right. And she was not going to

01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:00.940
take shit from fucking anyone on the way there.

01:01:01.139 --> 01:01:04.659
I love it. God. Not even Lisa Vanderpump. I love

01:01:04.659 --> 01:01:07.860
the scenes where Stassi is like. in a meeting

01:01:07.860 --> 01:01:10.760
with Lisa and still being a bitch. Oh, do you

01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:13.360
remember? She's like meeting with Lisa Vanderpump.

01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:16.039
And was it Kristen? Dodie comes up and she's

01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:18.400
like, can I get you anything to drink? And she

01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:19.800
goes, I don't know what I've done to you, but

01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:25.239
I'll take a Pinot Grigio. She did not care. Not

01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:29.340
at all. I'm excited about that. She was always

01:01:29.340 --> 01:01:31.860
my favorite, even when she's the worst. Yeah.

01:01:32.059 --> 01:01:35.139
And she was always the worst. Of course. Okay.

01:01:36.139 --> 01:01:38.320
All right. So today we're getting into The Real

01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:40.139
Housewives of Salt Lake City season one, episode

01:01:40.139 --> 01:01:47.780
12, Centers in the City. Yes. This Vegas trip

01:01:47.780 --> 01:01:50.739
was an experience. It really is like the peak

01:01:50.739 --> 01:01:54.420
of this season. It is. Because I don't think

01:01:54.420 --> 01:01:57.139
because this was all filmed before COVID. This

01:01:57.139 --> 01:02:03.110
was. Yeah. I think these. Women had no idea what

01:02:03.110 --> 01:02:08.010
they were about to become. And. Let's just get

01:02:08.010 --> 01:02:10.429
into it. Yeah. So we pick up where we left off

01:02:10.429 --> 01:02:12.889
in Vegas after Jen and Heather's shopping experience.

01:02:14.469 --> 01:02:16.349
Whitney goes straight up to Heather's room to

01:02:16.349 --> 01:02:18.730
unpack the race car driving experience. I think

01:02:18.730 --> 01:02:20.250
she's still like on a little bit of a high from

01:02:20.250 --> 01:02:23.789
that. And she's like feeling good because she

01:02:23.789 --> 01:02:25.590
kind of like buried the hatchet with Lisa and

01:02:25.590 --> 01:02:28.409
Meredith. Like everything's good there. And.

01:02:29.980 --> 01:02:32.679
Then we're getting cuts back and forth of like

01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:37.380
Lisa and Meredith are showing up to to the to

01:02:37.380 --> 01:02:41.079
the dinner. So we're getting that. And Heather,

01:02:41.139 --> 01:02:43.579
when you're talking about. lisa and meredith

01:02:43.579 --> 01:02:45.619
and like how that went and they all seem like

01:02:45.619 --> 01:02:47.739
they found resolution and they're moving on from

01:02:47.739 --> 01:02:49.460
their fight and i love this for them and then

01:02:49.460 --> 01:02:52.400
heather tells whitney that jen is still mad about

01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:55.539
coach shaw's party and like we are i don't know

01:02:55.539 --> 01:02:57.380
if it's like how long we've been talking about

01:02:57.380 --> 01:02:59.559
it or like if it's truly been that long in the

01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:01.820
season we're 12 episodes in and that happened

01:03:01.820 --> 01:03:06.119
like two episodes in so yeah like okay this is

01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:10.250
spanned The entire first season. Yeah, that's

01:03:10.250 --> 01:03:12.610
where Jen Shaw starts to get to me. I love her.

01:03:12.730 --> 01:03:15.829
I think she just does not give a fuck what anyone

01:03:15.829 --> 01:03:18.949
thinks, especially in this season of Salt Lake

01:03:18.949 --> 01:03:23.469
City. But like fucking let it go. Let it go.

01:03:23.570 --> 01:03:26.550
Is she afraid that storyline is what's keeping

01:03:26.550 --> 01:03:30.469
her in? Because, babe, it's not. No. And like

01:03:30.469 --> 01:03:34.280
I. this is kind of like where you like because

01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:36.340
you know i like to like get into like i dig into

01:03:36.340 --> 01:03:37.900
the behind the scenes like i like to it's like

01:03:37.900 --> 01:03:40.639
what do they actually think i wonder if she has

01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:43.019
like a touch of ocd or something and like she

01:03:43.019 --> 01:03:47.199
cannot stop obsessing over this i i do think

01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:51.980
if not a diagnosis she is like a type a type

01:03:51.980 --> 01:03:56.869
a person we're like Once she's committed to something,

01:03:56.949 --> 01:03:59.489
it needs to pan out exactly how she sees it panning

01:03:59.489 --> 01:04:01.250
out. And if it starts to go a different way,

01:04:01.429 --> 01:04:04.170
she's just going to stay staunch. She must redirect

01:04:04.170 --> 01:04:11.010
it. Right. So, like, she wanted this huge apology

01:04:11.010 --> 01:04:14.250
and this, like, falling down on the knees. I

01:04:14.250 --> 01:04:16.289
can't believe I did that to you thing. And when

01:04:16.289 --> 01:04:18.090
that didn't happen, she's like, OK, well, I'm

01:04:18.090 --> 01:04:24.389
still mad then. God. Let it go. So then. Jen

01:04:24.389 --> 01:04:27.449
shows up to the dinner and Lisa and Meredith

01:04:27.449 --> 01:04:30.369
immediately start talking shit. I'm sorry. She's

01:04:30.369 --> 01:04:33.050
she's she shows up to the dinner with Lisa and

01:04:33.050 --> 01:04:35.349
Meredith. And then Jen immediately starts talking

01:04:35.349 --> 01:04:36.989
shit about Whitney. And this word accountable

01:04:36.989 --> 01:04:39.289
keeps coming up. And all these women in Utah

01:04:39.289 --> 01:04:41.530
love the word accountability and ownership. You

01:04:41.530 --> 01:04:43.929
know, the least accountable person there, the

01:04:43.929 --> 01:04:46.530
one stealing. This is I think this is the problem

01:04:46.530 --> 01:04:50.150
is Jen is the least self -aware person that has

01:04:50.150 --> 01:04:55.670
ever walked the face of the earth. And Lisa says

01:04:55.670 --> 01:04:58.130
she's good with Whitney and there's a clean slate.

01:04:58.349 --> 01:05:02.969
And I forgot about this. Jen literally says,

01:05:03.130 --> 01:05:05.789
wait, how are you good with her? And Lisa explains

01:05:05.789 --> 01:05:08.210
that Whitney apologized and that made it better.

01:05:08.590 --> 01:05:13.429
And that scene is actually so funny because the

01:05:13.429 --> 01:05:15.670
look on Jen's face where she's like, how did

01:05:15.670 --> 01:05:19.179
you even do that? I also love like. letting a

01:05:19.179 --> 01:05:21.739
week or two pass in between taking notes and

01:05:21.739 --> 01:05:24.059
like actually talking about it because like some

01:05:24.059 --> 01:05:27.119
of this stuff is so funny to me yeah it is and

01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.360
we cut to a confessional with jen just fully

01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:33.059
not being able to understand or accept the pieces

01:05:33.059 --> 01:05:35.500
happening in the group and we get this beautiful

01:05:35.500 --> 01:05:38.719
stream of consciousness and this is a direct

01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:41.780
quote from one jennifer shaw Now you're coming

01:05:41.780 --> 01:05:44.059
to me saying, oh, we made up with Whitney. If

01:05:44.059 --> 01:05:46.199
you can forgive Whitney so easily for lying on

01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:47.960
you guys, does that mean you're actually lying

01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:50.480
the whole time? What the fuck are you talking

01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:56.219
about? What are you saying? It's just not connecting.

01:05:56.460 --> 01:06:02.480
This is where you can tell. And again, you know

01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.460
I love to get into the behind the scenes. They

01:06:04.460 --> 01:06:09.130
film two sets of. They film one set like halfway

01:06:09.130 --> 01:06:10.650
through the season and they film the rest of

01:06:10.650 --> 01:06:14.730
it after after filming is wrapped. And you can

01:06:14.730 --> 01:06:18.110
tell that Jen has had time to think this over

01:06:18.110 --> 01:06:20.309
and she is grasping at straws at this point.

01:06:20.369 --> 01:06:22.409
Like she's like, I have to throw everything at

01:06:22.409 --> 01:06:25.230
the wall and hopefully one of these things will

01:06:25.230 --> 01:06:27.909
stick. And like the producers on Salt Lake City

01:06:27.909 --> 01:06:30.769
were like, we have reality TV gold here. This

01:06:30.769 --> 01:06:35.980
woman is they saw what she was doing. So. We

01:06:35.980 --> 01:06:39.420
cut back to the dinner and Jen starts escalating

01:06:39.420 --> 01:06:44.219
into one of her Hulk rages. And Lisa is trying

01:06:44.219 --> 01:06:46.239
so hard. And this is this is one of the things

01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:49.159
I love about Lisa. We're like Lisa is like, let's

01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:51.960
let's talk like let's like when Lisa is not the

01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:54.280
one in the direct line of fire. Like she does

01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.760
try to calm it down. She's so good at it. And

01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:59.639
like she's she's someone who is reminds me so

01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:02.179
much of my aunt Tina, who like when Tina's in

01:07:02.179 --> 01:07:04.739
direct conflict. Comes out swinging. But like

01:07:04.739 --> 01:07:07.039
when she sees a conflict, she's like, hey, let's

01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:11.800
calm down. Let's talk. I love this about Lisa.

01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:16.539
Meredith gets up and announces that she's not

01:07:16.539 --> 01:07:18.739
engaging, walks out the door. I love Meredith

01:07:18.739 --> 01:07:22.639
so much. I love the idea of seeing people starting

01:07:22.639 --> 01:07:26.420
to yell and being like, OK, I'm done. Beautiful.

01:07:26.780 --> 01:07:31.079
I love that. But she do you remember earlier

01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:35.199
in the season? You said, and I think it was in

01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:37.400
the context of Seth and Meredith, but you said,

01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:40.519
I want to know what has impacted her so much

01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:42.280
that she feels the need to protect her piece

01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:45.019
this hard. We get, we get an answer to that.

01:07:45.099 --> 01:07:47.460
So she starts talking about like her parents

01:07:47.460 --> 01:07:51.239
had a really ugly divorce and she was always

01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:54.380
caught in the middle of. those fights and like

01:07:54.380 --> 01:07:57.440
she's like when I'm in when I'm around high levels

01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:00.059
of conflict I shut down and like totally forgot

01:08:00.059 --> 01:08:02.820
about her talking about that I like I don't remember

01:08:02.820 --> 01:08:05.500
this at all until like re -watching this and

01:08:05.500 --> 01:08:07.519
I was like oh Emma did ask about this and I'm

01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:10.980
glad we got an answer to that I that's so sad

01:08:10.980 --> 01:08:13.280
to me I it is like her parents were screaming

01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:16.899
so much that she has come up with this term I'm

01:08:16.899 --> 01:08:20.319
not going to engage and she literally shuts down

01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:23.470
yes I when she said that, like when she started

01:08:23.470 --> 01:08:25.289
talking about that in a confessional, I immediately

01:08:25.289 --> 01:08:27.729
was like, I will protect her with my life. I

01:08:27.729 --> 01:08:30.109
will take a bullet for Meredith. I have a maternal

01:08:30.109 --> 01:08:34.170
instinct towards this older woman. Yes. So then

01:08:34.170 --> 01:08:36.170
Jen starts crying about Meredith leaving the

01:08:36.170 --> 01:08:38.310
table and then she starts screaming at Lisa and

01:08:38.310 --> 01:08:44.260
she. I don't know how long this scene had been

01:08:44.260 --> 01:08:46.619
going on, but she was wasted. Like she she was

01:08:46.619 --> 01:08:49.420
wasted. And like because when she starts doing

01:08:49.420 --> 01:08:51.960
the like screaming and the crying, it's always

01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:55.020
in direct relation to she's had several drinks.

01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:58.720
I think she showed up already drunk. Do you think

01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:01.920
so? Yeah. Because do you remember? Side note

01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:04.340
about this Vegas trip. She has like three hotel

01:09:04.340 --> 01:09:07.180
rooms and a whole team of people with her. Yes.

01:09:08.170 --> 01:09:11.069
Which is like, whatever, ha ha ha ha, luxurious,

01:09:11.409 --> 01:09:16.350
extra girl, blah blah blah blah. They were all

01:09:16.350 --> 01:09:18.430
getting her ready, and you're telling me they're

01:09:18.430 --> 01:09:20.630
not taking shots? Oh, 100 % they are. Come on.

01:09:21.229 --> 01:09:24.109
You're in Vegas. Yeah, she was already drunk

01:09:24.109 --> 01:09:28.289
before she got there, is what I think. Yeah,

01:09:28.329 --> 01:09:30.529
I agree. I mean, that's totally speculation,

01:09:30.689 --> 01:09:35.470
but. But, like, Lisa is, like, Lisa. is in a

01:09:35.470 --> 01:09:37.789
hostage negotiation at this point. She's like,

01:09:37.850 --> 01:09:40.970
she's trying so hard. And that's bad for her

01:09:40.970 --> 01:09:43.289
in that scene. I truly did. I did, too, because

01:09:43.289 --> 01:09:46.189
I was like, yeah, Lisa cannot win here. And so

01:09:46.189 --> 01:09:49.109
then Heather and Whitney walk in as Jen is making

01:09:49.109 --> 01:09:51.930
her grand exit. And I went back and watched this

01:09:51.930 --> 01:09:56.670
four times to like to because you see what happens.

01:09:56.909 --> 01:10:02.060
And so, OK. I'm just going to read exactly what

01:10:02.060 --> 01:10:03.779
I wrote. I literally went back and watched this

01:10:03.779 --> 01:10:06.460
four times. Lisa is chasing after Jen. She reaches

01:10:06.460 --> 01:10:09.500
out to grab Jen by the elbow and tries to start

01:10:09.500 --> 01:10:13.399
to calm her down. Heather brushes by Jen's elbow.

01:10:13.859 --> 01:10:16.340
She's like, what's going on? Because they're

01:10:16.340 --> 01:10:21.000
walking into chaos. And Jen takes out her talons

01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:25.880
and hits Heather as she's walking out. Slaps

01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:31.159
the shit out of her, too, which is crazy. Like,

01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:35.340
what are you, why does it have to escalate to

01:10:35.340 --> 01:10:37.159
this point? This is something I've never understood

01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:39.000
with Jennifer Shaw. It's like, why does it have

01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:43.510
to get to this point? And this. Alongside her

01:10:43.510 --> 01:10:46.510
first line at the table being like, how are you

01:10:46.510 --> 01:10:49.449
good with her? Yes. That's why I think she showed

01:10:49.449 --> 01:10:52.329
up already drunk. Yes. There's no way sober Jen

01:10:52.329 --> 01:10:56.430
Shaw, deranged as she is, is upset about something,

01:10:56.569 --> 01:11:00.289
sees Heather, feels Heather slightly tap her

01:11:00.289 --> 01:11:03.329
and then slaps her. Yes. There's no way. Right.

01:11:03.409 --> 01:11:09.189
She was fucked up. And that's fine. Say that.

01:11:10.090 --> 01:11:12.949
I think this whole situation could have gone

01:11:12.949 --> 01:11:15.229
over better if she would have shown up and said,

01:11:15.250 --> 01:11:19.229
I had six shots before I got here. She can't

01:11:19.229 --> 01:11:21.329
say she can't say anything that like takes away

01:11:21.329 --> 01:11:24.750
from the image of like, yeah, I am Jennifer Shaw,

01:11:24.829 --> 01:11:27.449
like I am the queen or whatever. But then she

01:11:27.449 --> 01:11:30.609
she's hulking out. She comes back in and she's

01:11:30.609 --> 01:11:33.350
losing her mind and she comes back for her purse.

01:11:34.270 --> 01:11:36.890
And then her bodyguard shows up. Why does she

01:11:36.890 --> 01:11:39.850
have a bodyguard? Why? She doesn't need a body.

01:11:39.909 --> 01:11:43.189
Does Jennifer have a bodyguard on a cast trip

01:11:43.189 --> 01:11:46.090
in the first season of The Real Housewives of

01:11:46.090 --> 01:11:49.630
Salt Lake City? Like, that's strange. She's just

01:11:49.630 --> 01:11:53.609
spending money left and right. I just watching

01:11:53.609 --> 01:11:57.810
it back. You can really, really see like because

01:11:57.810 --> 01:12:00.529
when I watched the first season of Salt Lake

01:12:00.529 --> 01:12:04.430
City the first time, this is like. years ago

01:12:04.430 --> 01:12:07.909
like I hardly remembered any of it and now I

01:12:07.909 --> 01:12:12.409
watch it back and I'm like god damn every episode

01:12:12.409 --> 01:12:15.770
I'm like why is she flying eight people out to

01:12:15.770 --> 01:12:18.710
be her team in Vegas why is she and like you

01:12:18.710 --> 01:12:21.409
know that like production pays for like the women

01:12:21.409 --> 01:12:24.850
to go on trips everything else is like on the

01:12:24.850 --> 01:12:27.590
housewives like Jen had to have paid for the

01:12:27.590 --> 01:12:29.510
extra hotel room she had to pay for the glam

01:12:29.510 --> 01:12:32.090
squad she had to pay for Oh my God, the flights

01:12:32.090 --> 01:12:34.989
alone. What the fuck? And then, yeah, I just

01:12:34.989 --> 01:12:37.170
see all of that stuff and I'm like, wow. And

01:12:37.170 --> 01:12:39.909
Vegas is one of the most expensive, like on a

01:12:39.909 --> 01:12:41.510
Delta flight, like not on like Southwest or,

01:12:41.550 --> 01:12:43.109
but on a Delta flight, it is one of the most

01:12:43.109 --> 01:12:46.949
expensive cities to fly into. Yeah. What are

01:12:46.949 --> 01:12:48.970
you doing? I'm not sure where they're staying.

01:12:49.270 --> 01:12:50.329
Do you know where they're staying? They're staying

01:12:50.329 --> 01:12:52.310
at the, at the Cosmopolitan, at the top of the,

01:12:52.369 --> 01:12:55.079
no, I'm saying not the Cosmopolitan. At the top

01:12:55.079 --> 01:12:58.920
of the MGM Grand Hotel. So she's paying for these

01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:02.159
people to sleep somewhere. Yes. It's like, what

01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:07.539
the fuck is going on, Jen? And like... You cannot

01:13:07.539 --> 01:13:11.539
tell me. You cannot tell me a football coach

01:13:11.539 --> 01:13:16.720
is paying all of this. No, he's... The IRS watched

01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:20.399
this season and they said... Yeah, it was like

01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:24.060
Teresa Giudice paying for that. Her living room

01:13:24.060 --> 01:13:29.619
all over again with cash. So then Lisa's chasing

01:13:29.619 --> 01:13:31.699
Jen. She follows Jen out to the lobby, realizes

01:13:31.699 --> 01:13:33.399
that she's on a long road to nowhere, and then

01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:37.039
heads back. And she comes back in to the dinner

01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:41.140
and goes, wow, that was a lot. I love baby gorgeous

01:13:41.140 --> 01:13:45.640
so fucking much. I love her so much. I need to

01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:48.729
know what dose of Lexapro she takes. I would

01:13:48.729 --> 01:13:51.529
like to try it. I wholeheartedly believe that's

01:13:51.529 --> 01:13:53.810
just her. I think it is, too. I believe that's

01:13:53.810 --> 01:13:57.409
that's straight Mormonism and Vita tequila. Oh,

01:13:57.590 --> 01:14:03.189
oh, yeah. Wow. That was a lot. So then Whitney

01:14:03.189 --> 01:14:04.869
gives us a confessional where she's saying that

01:14:04.869 --> 01:14:08.590
she feels like all the time spent. Wait, all

01:14:08.590 --> 01:14:11.890
the time. All the time she spent talking to Jen,

01:14:11.949 --> 01:14:14.090
trying to make up. She feels like she's full

01:14:14.090 --> 01:14:17.199
of shit. And I'm like, well, obviously. Obviously,

01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:20.659
Jen is full of shit. Yeah. Like. And the sky

01:14:20.659 --> 01:14:24.859
is blue. Yes. Newsflash. Water's wet. Yeah. Of

01:14:24.859 --> 01:14:26.300
course, Jen's full of shit. That's kind of her

01:14:26.300 --> 01:14:28.199
whole thing. And then we get to Jen in her hotel

01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:30.039
room just screaming on the phone at Coach Shop

01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:33.100
and how she's the victim. And I know Sharif was

01:14:33.100 --> 01:14:35.619
at home just like with his eyes closed and his

01:14:35.619 --> 01:14:37.939
head back going, yeah, baby, I know. I know.

01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:41.979
Like. Because here's the thing. Come on. I know

01:14:41.979 --> 01:14:46.130
Sharif loves his wife. He also knows his wife.

01:14:46.470 --> 01:14:49.310
I believe there has to be a limit to like what

01:14:49.310 --> 01:14:51.829
Coach Shaw is willing to put up with. And this

01:14:51.829 --> 01:14:53.869
is one of those things where it's like, how far

01:14:53.869 --> 01:15:00.869
do we take it? He does not strike me as a. As

01:15:00.869 --> 01:15:02.869
like someone who's never mentioned this to Jen

01:15:02.869 --> 01:15:05.270
before. Right. Let's say like, I don't think

01:15:05.270 --> 01:15:08.930
he's taking that shit from her. He's not taking

01:15:08.930 --> 01:15:11.229
it, but he's here. He'll listen to her like scream

01:15:11.229 --> 01:15:14.060
about the other women because I. truly believe

01:15:14.060 --> 01:15:16.739
in this moment jen it comes along with being

01:15:16.739 --> 01:15:19.100
not self -aware jen believes she is the victim

01:15:19.100 --> 01:15:22.060
in all of this oh 100 she's like all these girls

01:15:22.060 --> 01:15:25.279
are out to get me yes just crazy and i'm like

01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:33.149
jennifer jennifer stop it so then Heather, Whitney

01:15:33.149 --> 01:15:35.609
and Lisa and Meredith all meet up in one of their

01:15:35.609 --> 01:15:37.489
hotel rooms and they're unpacking the last couple

01:15:37.489 --> 01:15:40.550
of hours and they end up agreeing that Jen has

01:15:40.550 --> 01:15:43.489
been a demon monster for the entire season. And

01:15:43.489 --> 01:15:47.369
I'm like, I'm glad that they're all on the same

01:15:47.369 --> 01:15:49.729
page about this. This is truly the first time

01:15:49.729 --> 01:15:51.350
that they've all gotten together and been like,

01:15:51.369 --> 01:15:56.090
Jen's the problem, right? Whitney comes clean

01:15:56.090 --> 01:15:58.470
about Jen threatening to share the pictures of

01:15:58.470 --> 01:16:02.270
Meredith with another man. Meredith is honest

01:16:02.270 --> 01:16:04.170
and tells all the women that she and Seth had

01:16:04.170 --> 01:16:06.609
been separated off and on and that she that they

01:16:06.609 --> 01:16:08.449
both dated other people at times during their

01:16:08.449 --> 01:16:14.170
separation. And. She's she's talked about this

01:16:14.170 --> 01:16:16.050
before, right? Like, I know she has said this

01:16:16.050 --> 01:16:18.229
before, or am I completely just misremembering

01:16:18.229 --> 01:16:20.750
it? I don't think she's mentioned it before.

01:16:20.850 --> 01:16:23.430
She's mentioned the separation. Yeah. OK, so

01:16:23.430 --> 01:16:24.810
she hasn't mentioned that they're dating other

01:16:24.810 --> 01:16:28.909
people. OK. So this gives a little more context

01:16:28.909 --> 01:16:31.409
as to why Lisa is shocked by this news. No, no,

01:16:31.409 --> 01:16:33.930
no, no, no. Lisa didn't know at all. Lisa had

01:16:33.930 --> 01:16:36.989
no idea. No, she did. They were separated. I

01:16:36.989 --> 01:16:40.310
remember them talking in a store about it and

01:16:40.310 --> 01:16:43.449
Lisa started crying about it. And she said, I

01:16:43.449 --> 01:16:45.930
love them together so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:48.140
And they went to a dinner. It's when they're

01:16:48.140 --> 01:16:51.939
doing Sundance, I think, is when Meredith tells

01:16:51.939 --> 01:16:54.539
Lisa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she must have just

01:16:54.539 --> 01:16:57.420
not known about the guys or whatever. But Lisa

01:16:57.420 --> 01:16:59.159
found a way to make this all about her and the

01:16:59.159 --> 01:17:01.500
confessional. She says, this is the first time

01:17:01.500 --> 01:17:03.460
I'm finding out about this. And I'm just like,

01:17:03.659 --> 01:17:08.939
I love her so much. And then Lisa announces that

01:17:08.939 --> 01:17:10.359
she doesn't want to be Jen's friend anymore.

01:17:10.659 --> 01:17:14.380
And then this is where I struggle with Heather.

01:17:15.430 --> 01:17:17.850
Because Heather says that Jen has redeeming qualities

01:17:17.850 --> 01:17:21.109
and that she still defends her after everything

01:17:21.109 --> 01:17:26.850
that went down. And I just felt like she knew

01:17:26.850 --> 01:17:30.289
something like Heather knows something that's

01:17:30.289 --> 01:17:33.430
going on with Jen that we don't know about. I

01:17:33.430 --> 01:17:37.010
have to believe that Heather, when she sees the

01:17:37.010 --> 01:17:39.630
slashing out, she sees the like she she she like

01:17:39.630 --> 01:17:43.430
the Hulk meltdowns. She sees a woman who is.

01:17:44.420 --> 01:17:47.340
Fighting for her life. This is what Heather's

01:17:47.340 --> 01:17:51.199
projecting onto it. And that's what she. Believes

01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.420
is going on. And that's why she wants to protect

01:17:53.420 --> 01:17:56.899
Jen so much. You think? I do. Because I think

01:17:56.899 --> 01:17:58.840
at the end of the day. Heather is a very protective

01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:03.039
friend. Yeah that's why I'm saying. It sounds

01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:04.880
like she's full of shit. And just trying to like

01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:07.659
stick up for Jen. But something about that scene.

01:18:07.739 --> 01:18:14.239
Made me think that Heather. like maybe maybe

01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:16.260
not maybe something else maybe something with

01:18:16.260 --> 01:18:19.340
like sharif or something but okay it just felt

01:18:19.340 --> 01:18:21.079
like they had had a heart -to -heart and she

01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:24.640
was like trying to protect jen for a reason that

01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:26.800
she can't say out loud on camera that's what

01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:30.609
it gave to me but i don't know I don't either.

01:18:30.789 --> 01:18:34.130
But like, do you remember when the guy that we

01:18:34.130 --> 01:18:37.510
used to work for where I would defend him within

01:18:37.510 --> 01:18:39.350
an inch of my life? And then there was something

01:18:39.350 --> 01:18:42.109
that he said that you could not get past. And

01:18:42.109 --> 01:18:45.270
like, I opened my mouth and you immediately were

01:18:45.270 --> 01:18:47.710
like, you said, I do not want to hear you defend

01:18:47.710 --> 01:18:50.770
him right now. I kind of get where you were coming

01:18:50.770 --> 01:18:52.409
from, like, because I projected that onto the

01:18:52.409 --> 01:18:55.390
scene where I was like. Yeah. God, they have

01:18:55.390 --> 01:18:57.010
to be so tired of hearing Heather defend her.

01:18:57.210 --> 01:19:00.289
Yeah. Well, it is sad to watch because Heather

01:19:00.289 --> 01:19:05.069
deserves a better friend than that. Heather is

01:19:05.069 --> 01:19:08.010
so beautiful and perfect. She does not need any

01:19:08.010 --> 01:19:10.310
friends who are slapping her in the face and

01:19:10.310 --> 01:19:14.010
then making her feel like she needs to go defend

01:19:14.010 --> 01:19:17.710
them. Right. Right after. She deserves wholesome,

01:19:17.729 --> 01:19:21.470
beautiful, fun relationships. I agree. But I

01:19:21.470 --> 01:19:26.489
did put in my notes. I hope to God that one day

01:19:26.489 --> 01:19:30.529
I find a man as loyal as Heather is. I know.

01:19:30.949 --> 01:19:33.750
She really is a ride or die. But it does strike

01:19:33.750 --> 01:19:37.069
me that she's like scared of Jen. And so she's

01:19:37.069 --> 01:19:38.449
like, Jen's going to watch this back. Let me

01:19:38.449 --> 01:19:40.829
speak up for her. Well, I want my man to be a

01:19:40.829 --> 01:19:47.300
little scared of me, too. Me, too. So we get

01:19:47.300 --> 01:19:48.739
to the next day. Everyone's getting their day

01:19:48.739 --> 01:19:51.319
started. Baby Gorgeous gets room service just

01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:53.500
like she deserves. Meredith is on the phone with

01:19:53.500 --> 01:19:56.939
Brooks. God, this house of horrors that Meredith

01:19:56.939 --> 01:19:59.899
lives in. She's explaining. Brooks is explaining

01:19:59.899 --> 01:20:03.220
that Teddy, the dog. went into his closet and

01:20:03.220 --> 01:20:07.720
shat all over his blue montclair coat which par

01:20:07.720 --> 01:20:11.039
for the course for this fucking dog that little

01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:14.579
demon monster dog is like oh my god nothing but

01:20:14.579 --> 01:20:16.920
problems they never show just like cute little

01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:19.380
videos i'm telling you it's always his poop it's

01:20:19.380 --> 01:20:21.359
always him pooping and it's always like him being

01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:29.039
bad so then we get heather and she's you could

01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:31.079
tell she's traumatized while she's eating breakfast

01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:33.340
and then whitney's doing yoga in her bed and

01:20:33.340 --> 01:20:36.140
then like tells us that this trip is worse when

01:20:36.140 --> 01:20:39.960
she started her water her period on a water slide

01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:45.479
in the bahamas sure whitney thank you thank you

01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:58.010
for that visual She got out of the water and

01:20:58.010 --> 01:21:00.229
everyone's looking at her like, what'd you do?

01:21:02.149 --> 01:21:06.289
And then in this moment, as far as we know, Jen

01:21:06.289 --> 01:21:08.810
went home after the fight and literally told

01:21:08.810 --> 01:21:11.430
everyone she was leaving and then told Heather

01:21:11.430 --> 01:21:17.529
that she was already gone. Okay. Right. So Mary's

01:21:17.529 --> 01:21:19.390
walking around her castle of a home like we cut

01:21:19.390 --> 01:21:20.829
to her back in Salt Lake City and she's drinking

01:21:20.829 --> 01:21:24.840
a smoothie and then. She walks in her bedroom

01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:27.479
and Charlinda just tells Mary, I'm setting up

01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:32.199
your things. That relationship terrifies me.

01:21:33.340 --> 01:21:38.840
It's so scary. It really gives like horror film

01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:41.739
like like you're going to get a big reveal as

01:21:41.739 --> 01:21:44.899
to why this is so fucked up. And you do. Going

01:21:44.899 --> 01:21:48.659
back to. The relationship that we used to have

01:21:48.659 --> 01:21:50.479
with the guy that we used to work for. It's like

01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:52.840
every time we heard him just yell from his office,

01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:55.560
it was like, oh, God, what now? My nervous system

01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:57.840
thinks you just pointed a gun at my forehead.

01:21:59.020 --> 01:22:02.619
But Lisa FaceTime's Mary and they kind of unpack

01:22:02.619 --> 01:22:05.199
like how chaotic the trip had been so far. And

01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:07.880
Mary says she tried to warn the women and they

01:22:07.880 --> 01:22:09.939
didn't believe her. So they all deserve the chaos.

01:22:11.899 --> 01:22:17.710
Everything with her is so biblical. Oh, my God.

01:22:18.609 --> 01:22:22.670
You were told by God. But I don't think we knew

01:22:22.670 --> 01:22:25.670
at this point that Mary believed or like that

01:22:25.670 --> 01:22:30.069
that people believe that Mary was God. And now

01:22:30.069 --> 01:22:32.449
that like we know everything that like we know

01:22:32.449 --> 01:22:35.649
now, that statement became so much more intense

01:22:35.649 --> 01:22:37.869
watching that back. I was like, oh, she I think

01:22:37.869 --> 01:22:40.270
that's why I always got weirdo vibes from her.

01:22:40.430 --> 01:22:43.590
I'm like, I never liked her from the very beginning.

01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:49.199
Nothing I've seen of her is likable to me. And

01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:53.560
I just. It's not surprising to me that she's

01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:56.300
framed herself as a messiah. Right. Talking about.

01:22:56.579 --> 01:23:00.760
I warned you, ladies. I warned you. You got what

01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:03.899
you deserved. I told you I'd rather be on a plane

01:23:03.899 --> 01:23:07.760
full of rats. Charlinda, get your scrubs. Like.

01:23:08.779 --> 01:23:12.380
But every time I'm at the Whole Foods and Clay

01:23:12.380 --> 01:23:16.470
Terrace. I look for her. I'm like, one day I'm

01:23:16.470 --> 01:23:18.149
going to run into her here. Or Charlinda will

01:23:18.149 --> 01:23:22.590
be at least. And I'll rescue her. So then we

01:23:22.590 --> 01:23:25.069
cut to Lisa and Meredith meeting Whitney in the

01:23:25.069 --> 01:23:29.050
lobby to head over to the psychic's house. Heather's

01:23:29.050 --> 01:23:31.010
running late and tells the other women to go

01:23:31.010 --> 01:23:33.170
ahead. She'll get an Uber like 15 minutes later.

01:23:33.569 --> 01:23:36.449
We cut to Heather knocking on Jen's door to pick

01:23:36.449 --> 01:23:40.310
up some stuff for her because we thought Jen

01:23:40.310 --> 01:23:43.869
had left already. She opens the door. And can

01:23:43.869 --> 01:23:46.449
you imagine being Heather and opening the door

01:23:46.449 --> 01:23:48.750
to this room? And Jen is just sitting there getting

01:23:48.750 --> 01:23:53.989
her glam done like. I would have lost my ever

01:23:53.989 --> 01:23:56.229
loving mind. Well, knowing full well that like

01:23:56.229 --> 01:23:58.369
the last interaction you had with her was her

01:23:58.369 --> 01:24:00.750
like hitting you or swatting at you, like whatever

01:24:00.750 --> 01:24:03.649
you want to call it. Like, I don't know that

01:24:03.649 --> 01:24:09.090
I would have been OK. So then Jen explains that

01:24:09.090 --> 01:24:12.020
she was. On our way to the airport and Stu looks

01:24:12.020 --> 01:24:14.239
like he's seen a war when the camera cuts over

01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:21.020
to him. But like Stu calmed her down. I feel

01:24:21.020 --> 01:24:23.319
so bad for Stuart Smith every time I see him

01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:25.539
because like he looks like he has like just gotten

01:24:25.539 --> 01:24:28.840
out of combat moments ago. I agree. But like

01:24:28.840 --> 01:24:32.760
who's making him be there? Jennifer. Quit. Oh,

01:24:32.859 --> 01:24:35.720
my God. He looks like he's seen a war because

01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:41.619
he's had a long day of committing fraud. So then

01:24:41.619 --> 01:24:44.979
Jenna asked the Shaw squad to give them a couple

01:24:44.979 --> 01:24:49.840
minutes. And I forgot that they'd had like their

01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:52.000
own hotel, like our two separate hotel rooms

01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:53.779
at that point. But like when she like shoes them

01:24:53.779 --> 01:24:55.539
away, I'm like, did they just go out in the hall

01:24:55.539 --> 01:25:02.460
and wait for her? No idea. So Jen starts explaining

01:25:02.460 --> 01:25:04.439
why she's the victim in this situation and no

01:25:04.439 --> 01:25:06.579
one's talking about the real issue. And then

01:25:06.579 --> 01:25:08.659
Heather tries really, really hard to stand her

01:25:08.659 --> 01:25:12.140
ground. And I did like to see that. I did, too.

01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:15.800
I did stand in her. I was so proud of her. But

01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:19.819
like we literally see Jen like when she realizes

01:25:19.819 --> 01:25:21.779
what's happening, start to try and gas like the

01:25:21.779 --> 01:25:24.520
shit out of Heather. Oh, I know. And Heather

01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:26.640
saw it. I was so proud of Heather in this scene.

01:25:26.699 --> 01:25:30.369
She really is like. Trying to get Jen to be real

01:25:30.369 --> 01:25:33.630
and being like, I have been so loyal to you.

01:25:33.689 --> 01:25:39.069
Can you please give me anything in return? And

01:25:39.069 --> 01:25:42.310
Jen's basically like, no, no, I'm the victim.

01:25:42.430 --> 01:25:44.470
And then Heather tells Jen that she was being

01:25:44.470 --> 01:25:46.329
aggressive. And I want you to remember this moment

01:25:46.329 --> 01:25:48.289
when we get to the season one reunion. Yeah.

01:25:48.289 --> 01:25:51.210
And then Jen keeps explaining over and over and

01:25:51.210 --> 01:25:52.869
over how Whitney's caused the problems in our

01:25:52.869 --> 01:25:55.869
marriage and how she's lying. And I'm like, my

01:25:55.869 --> 01:25:59.689
God, like, is did. Did Whitney do anything that

01:25:59.689 --> 01:26:03.050
wrong? Like, you're telling me that Whitney Rose

01:26:03.050 --> 01:26:05.890
coming to you and saying that saying whatever

01:26:05.890 --> 01:26:07.949
she said, like literally anything that she said

01:26:07.949 --> 01:26:10.550
short of Sharif is having an affair. You're telling

01:26:10.550 --> 01:26:12.930
me that caused that many problems in your marriage?

01:26:12.949 --> 01:26:16.050
Like, come on. Like, how could it? Because it

01:26:16.050 --> 01:26:18.829
was at Sharif's birthday party. Yes, that's that's

01:26:18.829 --> 01:26:21.149
the whole precipice. Did we even see Sharif at

01:26:21.149 --> 01:26:24.159
this birthday party? We saw him. we saw at the

01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:27.680
end of it are we dead ass like do you think sharif

01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:30.619
cared no about any part of this fucking party

01:26:30.619 --> 01:26:34.640
no sharif just wanted to go off and talk off

01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:40.619
he does not give a shit and like i bet he hasn't

01:26:40.619 --> 01:26:45.399
talked about the party and at all like not a

01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:48.640
single detail since the morning after Yeah. If

01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:51.159
I had to put money on it. But she knows Sharif

01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:53.979
would go to bat for her if it comes back. Yes.

01:26:55.239 --> 01:26:58.159
So then I did say I was actually really proud

01:26:58.159 --> 01:26:59.979
of Heather in this scene because it's the first

01:26:59.979 --> 01:27:01.579
time I feel like she's really, really number

01:27:01.579 --> 01:27:03.479
one, really standing up for herself and like

01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:07.119
standing up to Jen. Like that had to be nerve

01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:09.260
wracking. I don't think that's like I don't think

01:27:09.260 --> 01:27:12.319
that comes naturally to her because she is kind

01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:15.479
of like a. She wants everyone to be happy. I'm

01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:19.619
the same way, though. Like she she just wants

01:27:19.619 --> 01:27:21.840
everyone to be happy and get along. And so she's

01:27:21.840 --> 01:27:25.000
willing to make things inconvenient for herself

01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:27.899
to do that. And so I'm glad she didn't with this

01:27:27.899 --> 01:27:31.159
one. Yeah, I agree. The women show up to what

01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:35.520
looks like a massive house in the suburbs of

01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:39.560
Vegas. And I. I don't know why I thought this

01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:41.220
woman was a psychic for so long because she's

01:27:41.220 --> 01:27:47.699
actually a hypnotist. Yeah. And. She's. I don't

01:27:47.699 --> 01:27:49.939
know. You know why you are confused? Why? Because

01:27:49.939 --> 01:27:52.939
the way that woman speaks is so vague and strange.

01:27:53.399 --> 01:27:57.619
It's so weird. Yes. So then apparently Whitney

01:27:57.619 --> 01:27:59.520
read this woman's book and it was so impactful

01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:01.899
that now they're going to go get hypnotized.

01:28:01.899 --> 01:28:05.199
This feels like a stretch. It feels like a very

01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:10.180
Whitney thing to do. However, I feel like I know

01:28:10.180 --> 01:28:12.819
with beyond a shadow of a doubt, the production

01:28:12.819 --> 01:28:16.119
found this woman and they said, Whitney, you

01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:22.800
like her. I agree. Kimberly has all the women

01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:27.399
going around this massive dining room table.

01:28:27.739 --> 01:28:32.439
It is honestly insane in there. That's a gigantic

01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:35.760
room. It reminds me of Mary Cosby's house. Like

01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:39.579
it's. It is so ornately decorated. And like,

01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:41.539
it feels like you're walking into Caesar's Palace.

01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:44.319
Like, I've never seen anything like it. So she

01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:45.960
has all the women lean back and close their eyes

01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:48.020
so they can go into trance state. And she says

01:28:48.020 --> 01:28:49.939
that trance state is the bomb. And I was like,

01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:54.020
what are you talking about? Like, these are not

01:28:54.020 --> 01:28:57.020
real words. Also, if someone told me to be in

01:28:57.020 --> 01:28:59.079
a trance state with my friends, I would be peaking

01:28:59.079 --> 01:29:03.000
the whole time. Yes. So they're all breathing

01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:05.199
with their eyes closed and just trying to relax.

01:29:05.420 --> 01:29:09.220
And then Hurricane Jen rolls up. Kimberly goes

01:29:09.220 --> 01:29:11.380
back into this song and dance where like she

01:29:11.380 --> 01:29:14.859
makes the women pretend they're holding baseballs.

01:29:14.859 --> 01:29:16.239
I don't really understand what's going on. I

01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:18.939
don't understand hypnosis. I don't know if it's

01:29:18.939 --> 01:29:23.140
a real thing. And then Jen says again in the

01:29:23.140 --> 01:29:27.800
confessional. These women are lying and she needs

01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:29.699
to find out who's really her friend. So that's

01:29:29.699 --> 01:29:31.960
why she showed up to this to this thing, which

01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:33.800
is so funny because the way it turns out anyway.

01:29:36.039 --> 01:29:39.640
And so they they all move into this massive living

01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:42.439
room and they all sit down. So Kimberly can be

01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:46.260
a therapist slash mediator, I guess. And she

01:29:46.260 --> 01:29:50.119
goes on is not. Hypnosis. Not part of hypnosis

01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:52.579
at all. I don't know what's going on. I don't.

01:29:52.579 --> 01:29:55.439
I would like to know the book that Kimberly wrote

01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:57.779
to see like if any of this is connected whatsoever.

01:29:58.380 --> 01:30:01.840
No idea. So she she goes on to explain that this

01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:05.159
is a safe space and some feelings might get hurt.

01:30:07.859 --> 01:30:13.039
This is buck wild. Like it is like. It's so funny.

01:30:13.119 --> 01:30:15.579
You've never been to Vegas before, but like I'm

01:30:15.579 --> 01:30:19.079
telling you right now. If you told me we're going

01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:22.260
to the suburbs of Las Vegas, this is the first

01:30:22.260 --> 01:30:25.000
thing I would expect to happen. 100%. No one

01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:27.199
in their right mind is living in the Vegas suburbs

01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:32.359
and posing as a therapist, hypnosis. Mediator.

01:30:34.779 --> 01:30:40.159
Sure, sure, sure, Kimberly. So, Jen immediately

01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:44.760
starts explaining why everyone that hasn't heard

01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:47.220
that she's the victim because... Oh, she starts

01:30:47.220 --> 01:30:49.260
explaining for everyone that hasn't heard she's

01:30:49.260 --> 01:30:51.100
a victim because of the way she's acted the night

01:30:51.100 --> 01:30:55.800
before. She she literally says, how come it's

01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:58.619
always Jen? And I was like, oh, you were so close.

01:30:58.699 --> 01:31:02.739
You were so close. You almost got it. Like, why

01:31:02.739 --> 01:31:05.260
is it always Jen? I wonder why it's always Jen.

01:31:06.500 --> 01:31:09.500
Let's pause there for a minute. Why is it? Let's

01:31:09.500 --> 01:31:14.680
unpack why it's always Jen. So Meredith explains

01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:17.060
that Jen was telling everyone who she could be

01:31:17.060 --> 01:31:19.720
friends with. And that's why she left. And then

01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:22.119
Jen stops the crocodile tears and goes, well,

01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:23.880
that's your perception. And I was like, what?

01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:25.319
What the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck?

01:31:25.600 --> 01:31:29.819
I was like, hang on. It's literally what you

01:31:29.819 --> 01:31:31.680
were doing, Jen. Like, it's not your perception.

01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:34.380
It's literally what you were doing. How else

01:31:34.380 --> 01:31:38.800
are you supposed to perceive the line? How can

01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:40.180
you be friends with her when you're friends with

01:31:40.180 --> 01:31:45.439
me? Yes. We get a confessional saying that with

01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:49.699
Meredith saying that the reality is that Jen's

01:31:49.699 --> 01:31:51.479
not in touch with reality. And I'm like, oh,

01:31:51.500 --> 01:31:53.560
my God, thank God. Like someone's finally saying

01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:56.720
it, because like I think the problem is that

01:31:56.720 --> 01:31:58.779
they've all been dancing around Jen the entire

01:31:58.779 --> 01:32:02.520
season. And everyone was scared to confront her

01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:05.199
head on because she's literally fucking insane.

01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:11.270
Yes. Whitney says that. She feels like this is

01:32:11.270 --> 01:32:13.109
being held over her head, like with the whole

01:32:13.109 --> 01:32:16.149
Sharif party thing. And then Jen tries to get

01:32:16.149 --> 01:32:20.409
on the cross. And I don't even I think the problem

01:32:20.409 --> 01:32:23.029
here is Jen doesn't know why she's mad anymore.

01:32:23.250 --> 01:32:25.569
Was it that was it the hospital smell? Was it

01:32:25.569 --> 01:32:28.449
the party? Like those are the only two times

01:32:28.449 --> 01:32:30.390
that she has been wronged this entire season.

01:32:31.289 --> 01:32:35.970
And I just feel like we've all been there. But

01:32:35.970 --> 01:32:38.989
maybe not on reality TV. I don't know about you.

01:32:39.050 --> 01:32:41.229
Maybe not everyone. But I've definitely gotten

01:32:41.229 --> 01:32:43.829
to a point, not with a group of people, but with...

01:32:44.060 --> 01:32:46.340
particular people where it's like i don't even

01:32:46.340 --> 01:32:49.380
remember how all of this started but i literally

01:32:49.380 --> 01:32:52.380
hate you well it's that but it's also like you

01:32:52.380 --> 01:32:54.779
if you're at that point you have to be willing

01:32:54.779 --> 01:32:57.319
to ask yourself like is it worth being this mad

01:32:57.319 --> 01:32:59.640
over and if you can't remember why you're mad

01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:01.920
at someone you need to just shut the fuck up

01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:05.300
yes it's possible to be angry and quiet yes you

01:33:05.300 --> 01:33:06.960
have nothing more to say there's nothing wrong

01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:13.500
with that so then jen says she would uh Wait,

01:33:13.560 --> 01:33:16.439
hang on. Oh, OK. So then Meredith starts to explain

01:33:16.439 --> 01:33:17.819
how she's feeling about the conversation around

01:33:17.819 --> 01:33:20.840
her marriage. And then she says, and this like

01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:22.739
this put the fear of God into me when she says,

01:33:22.800 --> 01:33:25.979
I don't get angry easily. You don't want me angry.

01:33:26.220 --> 01:33:28.779
And I was like, I don't. You're right. I don't.

01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:31.579
And then Jen goes on to say, I would never get

01:33:31.579 --> 01:33:33.739
in between someone's marriage. And then Whitney

01:33:33.739 --> 01:33:35.899
finally calls her out for being a liar because

01:33:35.899 --> 01:33:39.279
no one has said this to Jen thus far that she's

01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:47.420
a blatant liar. I can't tell if Jen believes

01:33:47.420 --> 01:33:50.720
what she's saying or if she like isn't willing

01:33:50.720 --> 01:33:52.960
to be honest. Like I can't I can't figure it

01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:56.539
out with Jen. I think she's one of those people

01:33:56.539 --> 01:33:58.739
who like thinks she's the smartest girl in the

01:33:58.739 --> 01:34:03.279
room. And so she can tell half truths and lies

01:34:03.279 --> 01:34:06.720
and things she doesn't really believe, but sell

01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:09.300
it because everyone in there is so stupid. Yes.

01:34:09.380 --> 01:34:14.699
The reality of the situation is. She's not as

01:34:14.699 --> 01:34:17.260
smart as she thinks she is. She's not dumb, but

01:34:17.260 --> 01:34:19.359
she's not as smart as she thinks she is. And

01:34:19.359 --> 01:34:23.420
she's not as good as she thinks she is. I think

01:34:23.420 --> 01:34:25.600
that's the other part of it. She thinks she's

01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:28.300
got the wool pulled over everyone. Maybe that

01:34:28.300 --> 01:34:30.260
comes with thinking she's smart. She thinks she's

01:34:30.260 --> 01:34:33.560
savvy. That's the word I think she thinks she

01:34:33.560 --> 01:34:36.159
is. She thinks she has everything figured out

01:34:36.159 --> 01:34:38.239
and she's savvy and she can slip through things

01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:40.199
and she can always be the victim and everyone

01:34:40.199 --> 01:34:44.060
will always kiss her ass. she's not smart enough

01:34:44.060 --> 01:34:47.659
to pull that off but they finally get to jen

01:34:47.659 --> 01:34:50.739
to the point of like giving half apologies like

01:34:50.739 --> 01:34:56.359
yeah which whatever and kimberly starts to interrupt

01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:59.800
her and i like and she's like coaching her on

01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:01.880
how to apologize it's funny in the moment if

01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:04.079
i were jen it would have aggravated living fuck

01:35:04.079 --> 01:35:06.399
out of me like i you know how much i hate being

01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:08.779
like talked over in the middle of a sentence

01:35:08.779 --> 01:35:11.100
i was on the therapist side that whole time were

01:35:11.100 --> 01:35:14.140
you really yeah because jen was doing the thing

01:35:14.140 --> 01:35:16.340
where she's like i'm sorry you feel that way

01:35:16.340 --> 01:35:20.399
no that's fair you're not sorry i feel that way

01:35:20.399 --> 01:35:22.659
you need to be sorry for what you did for what

01:35:22.659 --> 01:35:24.779
you said and that's what the therapist was telling

01:35:24.779 --> 01:35:26.899
her and i loved that okay put her in her fucking

01:35:26.899 --> 01:35:29.760
place that's fair that's fair i think it would

01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:33.060
have aggravated me well sure but that's kind

01:35:33.060 --> 01:35:36.380
of the point of being right hey You are the bad

01:35:36.380 --> 01:35:38.659
vibes here. You're right. You're 100 % right.

01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:44.000
They take a break. Oh, God. They take a break

01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:48.319
to play the who doesn't trust who game. And so

01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:51.039
not a single soul raises their hand when they

01:35:51.039 --> 01:35:53.600
say when she says who doesn't trust Lisa, Meredith

01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:56.340
or Whitney. Everyone raises their hand for Jen.

01:35:56.460 --> 01:35:59.859
And then Jen decides to get back at Heather and

01:35:59.859 --> 01:36:01.460
raises her hand for who doesn't trust Heather.

01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:05.859
Which is crazy, side note. It's crazy, but like,

01:36:05.859 --> 01:36:10.239
Heather seems like she's actually affected by

01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:12.659
this. And I'm like, babe, do you not see what

01:36:12.659 --> 01:36:14.659
Jen's trying to, she's trying to get under your

01:36:14.659 --> 01:36:18.319
skin. She's such a wholesome, happy girl. She's

01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:21.420
like, she like can't imagine Jen's doing that

01:36:21.420 --> 01:36:23.520
just to piss her off. She's like, wow, Jen really

01:36:23.520 --> 01:36:28.289
doesn't trust me. And so the incredible editors

01:36:28.289 --> 01:36:31.890
give us this opportunity to see three separate

01:36:31.890 --> 01:36:34.270
flashbacks to Jen screaming at the world and

01:36:34.270 --> 01:36:38.729
making a grand exit or a storm out. And they

01:36:38.729 --> 01:36:41.770
they come back to talking about how Heather saying

01:36:41.770 --> 01:36:47.069
Jen was aggressive and violent. And Lisa, Lisa

01:36:47.069 --> 01:36:49.590
says that everyone feels attacked by Jen and

01:36:49.590 --> 01:36:53.680
like. Surely you see where this is going for

01:36:53.680 --> 01:36:59.659
the season one reunion. Yes. And Jen says that

01:36:59.659 --> 01:37:01.960
her reactions are completely justified because

01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:05.479
don't they just get me now? Literally says that

01:37:05.479 --> 01:37:08.260
in a confessional. Don't they just get me? Like,

01:37:08.260 --> 01:37:13.319
babe, you don't get to, like, do that and, like,

01:37:13.340 --> 01:37:16.260
be a normal person. I'm so sorry. It's like if

01:37:16.260 --> 01:37:20.369
you went pulling people's hair out. at work or

01:37:20.369 --> 01:37:23.109
something and then a couple months in people

01:37:23.109 --> 01:37:26.670
are so pissed and it's like don't you get me

01:37:26.670 --> 01:37:30.329
that's my thing yeah shut up stop doing that

01:37:30.329 --> 01:37:32.789
and then heather explains that jen is on the

01:37:32.789 --> 01:37:34.930
brink of ruining a friendship and kimberly goes

01:37:34.930 --> 01:37:37.090
this is very good and that's for the episode

01:37:43.170 --> 01:37:45.850
I liked that little therapist lady. I thought

01:37:45.850 --> 01:37:48.050
she was so funny. I went back and forth with

01:37:48.050 --> 01:37:50.649
her because I'm like, oh, it's all it's all crock.

01:37:50.649 --> 01:37:52.710
But like at the same time, I'm like, it's a money

01:37:52.710 --> 01:37:55.449
grab for sure. She knew where her bread was buttered.

01:37:55.449 --> 01:37:58.189
She said, gay people will be watching this and

01:37:58.189 --> 01:38:02.420
this is what I need to do. I just feel like obviously

01:38:02.420 --> 01:38:05.060
it's all made up. It's a money grab. I just imagine

01:38:05.060 --> 01:38:08.760
her sitting in that big palace all day, letting

01:38:08.760 --> 01:38:11.659
people come in and just being like, you're the

01:38:11.659 --> 01:38:18.420
problem. You're the problem. Oh, God. Pretend

01:38:18.420 --> 01:38:20.939
you're holding a baseball and almost fall asleep,

01:38:21.020 --> 01:38:28.000
but don't. This is the bomb. Oh, God. Next week

01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:30.699
is the finale of The Real Housewives of Salt

01:38:30.699 --> 01:38:32.399
Lake City season one. And then it's the reunion.

01:38:34.659 --> 01:38:38.319
Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is a short season. Like

01:38:38.319 --> 01:38:40.039
the first season is always a little bit shorter.

01:38:40.619 --> 01:38:43.380
But also, I forgot to say this at the top of

01:38:43.380 --> 01:38:46.000
reality roundup. It's a clock. I know. I forgot

01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:49.220
to say this at the top of reality roundup. We

01:38:49.220 --> 01:38:50.640
all know how much I love the city of Atlanta.

01:38:50.819 --> 01:38:52.359
We all know how much I love the real housewives

01:38:52.359 --> 01:38:57.359
of Atlanta. This week, we had one Miss Pinky

01:38:57.359 --> 01:39:02.000
Cole share one of our stories on Instagram. We're

01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:06.579
celebrating. We are celebrating. And then I know.

01:39:06.920 --> 01:39:11.079
And then number two, being on threads for this

01:39:11.079 --> 01:39:13.279
fucking podcast is finally paid off because one

01:39:13.279 --> 01:39:18.670
Miss Portia fucking Williams. replied to us and

01:39:18.670 --> 01:39:21.970
I know it's like I said I'm we're really really

01:39:21.970 --> 01:39:24.590
loving you this season on Real Housewives of

01:39:24.590 --> 01:39:26.729
Atlanta and all she said was thank you but like

01:39:26.729 --> 01:39:30.689
I was in tears when I got that reply yeah it

01:39:30.689 --> 01:39:32.989
doesn't matter that she sends that 500 times

01:39:32.989 --> 01:39:35.710
a day and it's probably not even her I don't

01:39:35.710 --> 01:39:39.670
care I don't care Portia for real on threads

01:39:39.670 --> 01:39:43.090
replied to us and like I was sobbing I was like

01:39:43.090 --> 01:39:47.680
this is my queen it's like unbelievable But you

01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:49.800
guys, thank you for being here. Thank you for

01:39:49.800 --> 01:39:53.180
loving us. From Indy to Atlanta to Salt Lake

01:39:53.180 --> 01:39:58.840
City to maybe Orange County. We love you. Nothing

01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:01.020
against you, Orange County. It's not you as an

01:40:01.020 --> 01:40:06.140
area. It's all the people in you. We love you.

01:40:06.399 --> 01:40:06.880
Bye.