The Real Slam Pigs of Rhode Island with Kam K.

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hi i'm travis i'm emma and this is bestie oh

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guys you didn't let him go i'm i am so really

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i'm travis i'm emma i'm cam and this is bestie

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approved um so cam is gay for bravo on tick tock

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and we connected on tick tock and i love his

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content i love his commentary on the housewives

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and like everything in bravo in general and i

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found out that he is in the market to start a

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podcast so i said what the hell why don't you

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come on and like practice with us and see if

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you like it and here we are so cam's gonna cover

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the real housewives of rhode island with us and

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i think we're gonna have an amazing great time

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so yay um cam this is a question that we ask

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everyone at the beginning of every episode what

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is the last song you listen to So I listened

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to this morning Ariana Grande's new song. I think

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it's I Hate That I Made You Love Me. I think

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that's what it's called. it's pretty good it's

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a little slow for me it's a little emotional

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um i it was hard for me not to compare it to

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her last song that she launched before the album

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uh yes and that one was like blowing up right

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away this one is more like toned down but it's

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nice you know we love ariana she's she's good

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yeah she's saying you know i she can't do a lot

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of wrong for me i she is someone who like she's

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gone through a few different iterations of herself

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and i there's not one i don't like because at

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the end of the day you have to forgive her for

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the pipes like you can't tell me she can't sing

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so and i gotta tell you like i can get over that

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time she went in and licked a donut i can get

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over that time she um what was the story she

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was at rockefeller center for something and she

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um got into a got into an elevator and there

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was someone else in the elevator and like she

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was like being like chased down by a ton of fans

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i might cut this piece of this out but like she

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did say in the elevator i hate all of them and

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i wish they would all die like talking about

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her fans she's a diva first of all i'm not gonna

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argue that she's not a diva ever and if people

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were just like constantly chasing you and taking

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your photo all the time i'm sure you have moments

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where you say things you don't mean you know

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what i mean i agree i do love her like the idea

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of her as a friend though because she got when

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she did saturday night live she became very very

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close to bowen yang and hearing their dynamics

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i'm i'm obsessed with them i love them together

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but yeah I think they're a cute pair I love seeing

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him in Wicked and she got all her friends the

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seven rings when she did that's so cute yes I

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agree Emma what was your last song um it's Janice

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STFU for the kids because Jack is right here

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from the new Drake album don't talk to me about

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it okay I won't I was in high school in 2014

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and that's really all I need to say you graduated

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high school in 2014 no no no I graduated in 2016

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but I was in high school in 2014 which is when

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nothing was the same came out and so unfortunately

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that corny man will live in my brain forever

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that's okay My last song was Promises by Calvin

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Harris and Sam Smith. Yeah. Here we are. Cam,

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tell us about yourself. Tell us about how you

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got here. Tell us about your love for Bravo and

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the Housewives. Tell us about you. It was so

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random. When I was in my early 20s, I had this

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roommate. Last week. I was going to say, are

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you in your early 20s right this moment? What,

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23? I'm 29. Oh, me too. Okay, perfect. In what

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century? Next century, you're 29? I genuinely

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thought you were like 19 or 20. I swear to Christ,

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I thought you were like 23. I thought you were

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going to tell me what college you are going to.

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Keep talking. Yeah. I'm so serious. I was like,

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okay, like now I don't feel as bad about myself

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and now I don't want to kill myself. But yeah,

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like I had this roommate and then his boyfriend

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came over. I was watching Game of Thrones and

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he's like, stop watching Game of Thrones. Let's

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put on the Real Housewives of New Jersey. And

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it was like the scene where Teresa was like walking

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out and she was like. saying this rumor about

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Jackie's husband and I'm like oh my god I need

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to watch this show and then I started my TikTok

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page after that what a good entry point that

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is yeah everyone if you're listening uh I'm in

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Jack's room it's been a day Emma's house we we

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recorded Emma's house I'm like I mean obviously

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like we're remote right now but My favorite thing

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is like, it's always a surprise like what you're

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going to get when we're at Emma's house or when

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Emma's like on the pod because it's like a baby

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crying or it's like I have to edit out so many

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like screams in the background because you never

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know what you're going to get in Emma's house

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of horrors sometimes. If you stay to the end

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of this video, if you're genuinely watching this

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stream, I will show you what behind me looks

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like at the very end. Jack's room is a feast

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for the eyes, I will tell you. It's a seven -year

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-old's room. There's no arguing that. But I want

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to talk about the concept of viewing Game of

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Thrones and being like, do you want to see some

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real drama? Yes. What was the entry point to

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you starting a TikTok? This is my real question.

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Cause it's like, was it like almost immediate

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where you were like, I love this. I have to talk

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about this. Like there, there is a real fandom

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and obsession here. Like, how did you get there?

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So I, in the beginning, like my page was just

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about me and my cat. And then when I posted one

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video about when Margaret's hair was pulled by

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Danielle, i that's when i was like oh okay like

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there's a lot of people that like this so let

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me i i was scared of having my face on camera

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because i was trying to lose a lot of weight

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and i was very insecure and you know like after

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i gained some confidence i'm like okay i need

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to i can't just post like memes about it anymore

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like i need my face to be on this page yeah i

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love that and emma and i like so emma is a new

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like not a new new mother i guess like she she

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just had her second baby months ago but i'm thinning

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down for like the 37th time in my life i mean

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but you like you had a baby it's different i

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and i used to weigh 300 pounds so like we both

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get like that struggle of like trying to figure

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out like when you want to be on camera like i

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that's really impressive though that like you

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Found that confidence. It's amazing. I love that.

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Yeah, because it is hard, like, even when you

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do lose the weight, to be like, I can put myself

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out here. So good for you. Yeah. I'm excited

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to get into this episode. But first, another

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thing we always do is complain. So do you have

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anything to complain about before we kick this

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off? Oh, I do. And it's about the parking here

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in California. Like, I understand that. Finding

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parking here is like finding gold. But I hate

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when I park outside and someone, like it's parallel

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parking, and then they park like this close to

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the front of my car. And I'm like, I'm trying

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to go to work here. So that's been my main complaint

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this week. It does feel like they're attacking

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you and trying to entrap you. Emma, what do you

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have to complain about? Other than a very...

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niche to me thing but i do need to talk about

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it jack is obsessed with these popsicles that

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are like 100 % juice and that's why i get them

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because it's like sweet treat not that bad for

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him right four times four separate occasions

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we have ordered these popsicles and unbeknownst

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to me Me being the person who has put in no substitutions

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that are acceptable to me, because there are

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none in the eyes of Jack. Four separate times,

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they have delivered us 10 mini drumsticks in

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the place of these popsicles. Are they the ones

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that are like the oval with like the stick in

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it that like they have the fruits on the box?

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No. The popsicles? Yeah. johnny pops okay i know

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exactly which ones you're talking about those

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are like you you don't go through the frozen

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goods aisle and think to yourself a drumstick

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is an acceptable substitution for that that is

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not the same thing and i'm dumbfounded because

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this has happened on more than one occasion and

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it's not the the same shopper so where are the

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it's really kind of driving me crazy But again,

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niche to me. I don't think anyone else is facing

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this. I don't think it's that niche, though,

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because I feel like I'm constantly seeing on

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TikTok, like, oh, yes. I have one random fucking

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tomato in my kitchen right now. And I don't even

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know what they replaced. A surprise for everyone.

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A treat for the eyes. i have to complain about

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i just bought and so i have a very specific type

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of sunglass that i wear and it's only aviators

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like it's like the big aviators right and i have

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had these oakley aviators for five or six years

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and i don't know what happened to them but they

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are lost they are completely lost so i said to

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myself i will buy a new pair of aviators I buy

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a pair of Ray -Bans. I spend like $300 on them.

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And I have not dropped them. I don't know what

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happened, but I was wearing the aviators. And

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then like almost out of nowhere, I was like,

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oh, a hair fell down into them. And then like

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I start like trying to grab for this hair. And

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then I was like, why isn't it moving? I take

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them off. There's just a crack across the lens.

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And I have never been this mad in my entire life.

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And like the only thing I can think of is like.

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I it got too hot in my car and like the like

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coming from like 70 ish degree weather to like

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coming into almost 100 degrees in my car before

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the air conditioner kicked on I can't figure

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out what happened but I like I've had them for

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like three weeks I would take it back to Ray

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-Ban and be like there has been no trauma right

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I'm so mad I'm so mad the lens even i'd be i

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would be fine with that but i'm just like these

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were three hundred dollars no that's weird because

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remember those um ray -ban aviators that kenny

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got me that like he showed you at the apple store

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yes yes yes those are like i've had them for

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almost two years now and they're like good as

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new so well and that's the thing the ray -bans

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are good Like they're not cheap by any stretch

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of the imagination. So I might send back to Ray

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-Ban and see like what we can figure out. But

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yeah, that was a lot. Tell them you have a podcast.

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I'll talk about you to my tits. Oh God. So Cam,

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you chose this episode that we're going to dig

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into and I'm excited about it, but I want to

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know why you chose this episode. Just specifically

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the fight between Rosie and Kelsey at our house.

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I was just thrown off a little bit. And yeah,

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that's why. Cool. He wants to talk about the

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tea. That's fine. So for anyone that hasn't picked

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up on it, we're talking about the season one,

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episode eight of The Real Housewives of Rhode

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Island. the the title's splitting hairs but i

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the title in my heart is the real slam pigs of

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rhode island uh and we'll get into it um so jumping

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right in we get the opening shots joellen and

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her hot ass husband are having lunch and she's

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like screaming at one of her kids for like wiping

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his hand on the white carpet and then liz takes

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her cat out for a walk and like people that take

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Go ahead. I think if your cat is willing to go

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on a walk with you, because listen, a cat's not

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going to do something it doesn't want to do.

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I think it's cunty. Yeah. I think she has a bangle

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or something. Those are my energy cats. So it's

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such an attractive thing to do. Can you imagine

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seeing that outside of your house? No. I mean,

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she's got that massive boardwalk. I'm sure she's

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like taking the cat up and down the boardwalk.

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Like she's not taking it out for a walk, like

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in the street. I love those drone footages of

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that property. Yeah. Well, knowing what we know

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now, where like we, there's like stuff that's

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coming out about like the investigations into.

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liz and like dino and everything i'm like well

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now i know how she was affording it but we go

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over to alicia's house for a driving lesson with

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billy and we find out uh selena has dance five

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days a week and she so she needs to start driving

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selena to dance and This comes after finding

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out Alicia's like run over the woman and it's

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a whole thing and like she she's afraid of driving

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and she's been run off the interstate. So she

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brings like a full pharmacy of like rose water

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spray and peppermint oil and then she blows through

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two stop signs while she's unpacking the trip

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with the other women and like it's the most chaotic

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thing I've ever seen in my entire life and like

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something. Emma knows about me is that I hate

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the tropes of like when the housewives take their

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kids like for driving lessons and it's like okay

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you're gonna drive and I'm so scared and like

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this whole thing and like the one thing I didn't

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hate about this was Billy because he was a calming

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force and then Alicia's just like I gotta have

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a crack I gotta have this I gotta have and I'm

00:16:15.779 --> 00:16:17.679
just like oh my god it's so stressful I'm so

00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:21.360
stressed out by this she'll pass out if she doesn't

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have her crackers like Bless his heart, I would

00:16:28.269 --> 00:16:32.570
have said driver's ed for you, babe. I don't

00:16:32.570 --> 00:16:34.470
know why he didn't, because I'm like, I have

00:16:34.470 --> 00:16:36.669
real concerns about her on the road, where she

00:16:36.669 --> 00:16:40.009
blows through two stop signs, and there's she's

00:16:40.009 --> 00:16:42.370
like, well, why the two in a row? And then she's

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like, this close to the steering wheel. I'm like,

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I've never seen anything like it. And I honestly

00:16:49.710 --> 00:16:52.950
do think that there are people who, nothing against

00:16:52.950 --> 00:16:57.960
her, but like, driving is not for everyone you're

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just a passenger princess maybe and like when

00:17:02.500 --> 00:17:04.559
she did the whole thing about i ran over a woman

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i did this i i thought it was an act but like

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i swear to god i believe this is her I know.

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I kind of figured she just, like, bumped someone

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or, like, you know, I don't know. No, have you

00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:18.779
seen her talking about, like, it was a very traumatic

00:17:18.779 --> 00:17:20.519
thing where, like, she doesn't know if the woman

00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:22.579
was trying to kill herself or what, but, like,

00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:25.500
this is, like, since the episode came out, she's

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talked about it in, like, the after show where,

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like, this woman, like, threw herself in front

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of the car. Like, it's, oh, yeah, this is a real

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thing. That's not even on her, but I can see

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how it would, like, scare her away. Oh, yeah.

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The next note I wrote was, I literally have never

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seen someone with their seat so close to the

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steering wheel. I'm just like, how is... I can't

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be comfortable for her. But then she goes over

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this bridge and she's like... They changed it

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and they're celebrating at the end and I'm like,

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yay, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I don't

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feel... It's not that I don't feel great about

00:18:07.299 --> 00:18:09.900
her driving her daughter around. I don't want

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her on the road unless she's comfortable in herself.

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And I don't think she's there yet. I think there

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needs to be a driver hired. And then that would

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be better. Yeah, like instead of the 10 % of

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the pizza place, maybe we hire a driver. I don't

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know. I could be wrong. I feel like she's going

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to save money in car repairs in the future by

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just hiring a driver. I agree. Insurance claims,

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too. Before we just give it up. So we go over

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to Rosie's house. She takes her dog outside for

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a little walk. And then she reminds us for the

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4 ,000th time. that she's building a 5 000 square

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foot addition onto her house and the this this

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all feels so disingenuous to me like just just

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build the structure and like you don't have to

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keep talking about it like it's okay we believe

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you we see the like the foundation laid stop

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talking about it and just do it like it's exhausting

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i don't get it because i feel like it would be

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so much hotter to be like oh yeah look this just

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got finished big project look at all this space

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in here and just like show us what like you know

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what i mean yeah like i don't even want to see

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the process like that's anything about concrete

00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:40.420
girl i don't mind seeing the process but like

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it feels like she has something to prove how

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much she keeps talking about it like yeah that's

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what i mean it's like i would rather not see

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any of it than to like hear Okay, I see what

00:19:51.180 --> 00:19:58.900
you're saying. Emma put... I added a note. I

00:19:58.900 --> 00:20:01.339
forgot I said that. No, please go for it. He

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sent me the summary of the episode and in this

00:20:05.180 --> 00:20:11.259
I said, okay, Donald in his ballroom. And I was

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just like, who is this for? I don't know. Why

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is he talking about it? the shot of it like in

00:20:18.740 --> 00:20:20.339
the beginning of the episode and i'm like what

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like this looks weird and why are we seeing this

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so from my understanding because i feel like

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they talked about this in the very first episode

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where like this was like it was a it was a lake

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house and like lake houses but like by their

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nature because we my family has one too and i'm

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listening to me i'm rosie and i'm bragging about

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my lake house but like it's like they're not

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they're not laid out like a normal house. Cause

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like the whole thing is like, you're doing it

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to like, it's, it's for the enjoyment of like

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fishing, boating, whatever you're doing. So it

00:20:51.980 --> 00:20:54.440
does look strange the way they're like adding

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on to it, because I think they're trying to make

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it into a home where it's not designed to be

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a primary home. I completely agree with you.

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Yeah. But then Rosie throws on those stupid moon

00:21:07.180 --> 00:21:09.579
boots things. And then she's talking about how

00:21:09.579 --> 00:21:11.079
she's going to ask Kelsey for another haircut.

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And then. she like we'll get to this eventually

00:21:16.619 --> 00:21:19.380
something about rosie bothers me i want to like

00:21:19.380 --> 00:21:21.980
her i like i really really do but like something

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about her just like it feels either phony or

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like disingenuous i like i don't know how to

00:21:28.819 --> 00:21:32.759
describe it but i'm like i i can't get down with

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her i don't know I'm kind of uninterested in

00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:39.500
her and that's kind of my problem. It doesn't

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really have anything to do with her necessarily.

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I just am not that interested. It's like artificial

00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:47.960
sweetener. That's the best way for me to describe

00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:52.359
it. Okay. Yeah. It's like not quite what I want.

00:21:52.819 --> 00:21:59.200
Yeah. Fair. Okay. And then we head over to Kelsey's

00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:01.960
new apartment. i could have done without this

00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:05.420
scene entirely i like so kelsey's laying out

00:22:05.420 --> 00:22:07.400
of all laying out all of her like miss rhode

00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:13.779
island stuff and that to me it's like someone

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who like holds on to their trophies from like

00:22:15.740 --> 00:22:18.140
middle school and like is very proud of them

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and like i feel so bad for saying this because

00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:22.220
miss miss rhode island is probably a much bigger

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deal than like i'm making it out to be in my

00:22:24.579 --> 00:22:26.599
head it puts her in the running for miss america

00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:30.359
is that oh does it Yeah. She would have walked

00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:36.819
for Miss America. Okay. Well. But pageant girls

00:22:36.819 --> 00:22:41.180
scare the shit out of me. I agree. I'm like,

00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.779
I don't like this. I'm intimidated, honestly.

00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:48.980
It's not even an intimidation thing. It is like,

00:22:49.099 --> 00:22:52.859
I'm terrified because it's like, they get mean

00:22:52.859 --> 00:22:54.980
and they get nasty. It's like the same thing

00:22:54.980 --> 00:22:56.740
with drag queens that perform in pageants where

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it's like, i don't want it like pageant queens

00:23:01.089 --> 00:23:06.450
of any kind of ilk it does not matter i just

00:23:06.450 --> 00:23:11.009
feel they have a type of energy and it's a very

00:23:11.009 --> 00:23:14.869
cutthroat thing that like i would never recover

00:23:14.869 --> 00:23:17.690
if they decided they wanted to ruin me never

00:23:17.690 --> 00:23:26.130
i would just die but her laying out all this

00:23:26.130 --> 00:23:28.690
stuff like the way she did i feel like she's

00:23:28.690 --> 00:23:31.329
desperately trying to hold on to this identity

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and like i want to revisit this in a couple seasons

00:23:33.950 --> 00:23:37.450
because i have a feeling she's gonna talk to

00:23:37.450 --> 00:23:40.250
a therapist and she's gonna like because i do

00:23:40.250 --> 00:23:42.190
think and we get to this later but like i do

00:23:42.190 --> 00:23:45.910
think this is like going to go down as like up

00:23:45.910 --> 00:23:47.470
until this point one of the biggest accomplishments

00:23:47.470 --> 00:23:49.109
in her life and it's kind of like what do you

00:23:49.109 --> 00:23:52.539
do next And I want to see where she goes from

00:23:52.539 --> 00:23:53.920
here. Because, like, I think she's at a real

00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.500
jumping off point. And, like, she has an opportunity

00:23:56.500 --> 00:23:59.140
to be incredible. I don't want her to waste that.

00:24:00.779 --> 00:24:04.779
Yeah. I think she's, like, trying to find her

00:24:04.779 --> 00:24:09.319
identity still. Yeah, that's the vibe I got from

00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:12.180
her. Because she doesn't seem to know what she

00:24:12.180 --> 00:24:16.480
wants to do. Yeah. Yes. you know i mean landing

00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:18.460
on this platform is going to help her out a lot

00:24:18.460 --> 00:24:22.579
but she needs to utilize it for a certain goal

00:24:22.579 --> 00:24:26.259
i would say yeah it's the right open door that

00:24:26.259 --> 00:24:32.779
comes yeah i think it's relatable though for

00:24:32.779 --> 00:24:35.680
what it's worth i think she's relatable in the

00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:38.380
sense that like i don't know what i'm gonna do

00:24:38.380 --> 00:24:40.940
next and i'm trying to figure that out you know

00:24:42.569 --> 00:24:44.950
i guess i didn't think about it like that though

00:24:44.950 --> 00:24:48.650
and i i because i i i'm i'm excited to see where

00:24:48.650 --> 00:24:50.170
she goes today because like you could you can

00:24:50.170 --> 00:24:52.230
kind of see her where it's like i'm i'm separating

00:24:52.230 --> 00:24:54.529
from this guy that i spent 10 years with and

00:24:54.529 --> 00:24:59.289
i'm like figuring it out i i i'm excited to see

00:24:59.289 --> 00:25:00.869
where it goes to i guess like i guess i just

00:25:00.869 --> 00:25:03.230
didn't think about like this is an exciting time

00:25:03.230 --> 00:25:06.569
for her yeah like she could completely flip it

00:25:06.569 --> 00:25:10.609
and i can totally see myself like loving her

00:25:10.609 --> 00:25:14.539
eventually i don't dislike her like i want to

00:25:14.539 --> 00:25:17.099
be very clear about that i just see pageant girl

00:25:17.099 --> 00:25:23.180
fair fair um did you guys ever watch um like

00:25:23.180 --> 00:25:28.579
old new jersey from like it was very shortly

00:25:28.579 --> 00:25:31.599
after like caroline manzo left and there was

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:33.500
that one season we don't really talk about with

00:25:33.500 --> 00:25:37.940
the twins and then like amber marchese kelsey's

00:25:37.940 --> 00:25:40.500
sister looks like amber marchese i could see

00:25:40.500 --> 00:25:43.359
that and it was a trigger for me because i hate

00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:45.819
her i hate her i hate that rotten husband of

00:25:45.819 --> 00:25:51.279
hers and i that that family is trash in my mind

00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:55.759
i i know i know we're not focusing on jersey

00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:59.460
but if there was one season that they would just

00:25:59.460 --> 00:26:02.400
delete out of like the real housewives of new

00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:05.880
jersey it would be that one oh my lord i know

00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:10.089
and like that because like that was we're gonna

00:26:10.089 --> 00:26:12.450
we're gonna go off on a tangent here like that

00:26:12.450 --> 00:26:16.230
was the one where dina manzo came back and we

00:26:16.230 --> 00:26:22.569
had we had gold there with dina manzo and that

00:26:22.569 --> 00:26:25.430
you want to talk about a wasted opportunity that

00:26:25.430 --> 00:26:28.309
season oh lord have mercy with like the sister

00:26:28.309 --> 00:26:30.309
the the twins going through the duncan donuts

00:26:30.309 --> 00:26:32.549
drive through like i don't i don't need it i

00:26:32.549 --> 00:26:39.420
don't want it i hate it but anyway It's like,

00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:41.339
you're not seeing trouble. You're seeing trouble.

00:26:41.539 --> 00:26:48.819
Shut up. Shut up. That's the worst tagline ever.

00:26:51.500 --> 00:26:55.839
So then Kelsey explains to her mom that her ex

00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:57.900
is paying the rent. And so she kind of talks

00:26:57.900 --> 00:27:01.740
about how she's dealing with this, like a divorce

00:27:01.740 --> 00:27:05.220
that had a prenup. i like how she's approaching

00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:07.319
because like she's being very smart about this

00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:09.859
like granted you you spent the last 10 years

00:27:09.859 --> 00:27:11.720
kind of just like being taken care of and like

00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.720
not setting yourself up for the next step but

00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:19.099
i also think like why would you if you're in

00:27:19.099 --> 00:27:21.180
the living in the lap of luxury you have drivers

00:27:21.180 --> 00:27:23.440
you have like a living housekeeper a living chef

00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.740
like i don't blame her yeah she she was like

00:27:26.740 --> 00:27:29.079
23 when she got with this guy i don't blame her

00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:33.359
like yeah you're not gonna like start saving

00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.059
money to set aside when you're that young I feel

00:27:37.059 --> 00:27:43.539
no not even a little bit um but also they we

00:27:43.539 --> 00:27:46.819
talked about this with in Atlanta with um one

00:27:46.819 --> 00:27:48.519
of the one of the moms like I don't remember

00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:50.819
which mom it might have been Angela's mom but

00:27:50.819 --> 00:27:54.480
they did this mom dirty with like some of the

00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:58.740
angles they put on her too because What the hell?

00:27:58.859 --> 00:28:01.920
Why do they keep doing that? It feels like everyone

00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.319
who comes in their house is all done up and then

00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:08.799
their moms are just like frumpy as hell. Come

00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.500
on. And her mom's not like an ugly woman. It's

00:28:12.500 --> 00:28:15.819
just like that outfit was bad. The camera angles

00:28:15.819 --> 00:28:18.539
were bad. I don't think either of the moms we're

00:28:18.539 --> 00:28:21.299
talking about are ugly. I think they're just,

00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.640
like, being done horribly dirty on national television.

00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:28.319
Yes. And how do you come back from that? Can

00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:30.660
you imagine if they did that to Wendy Osefo's

00:28:30.660 --> 00:28:33.400
mom? Oh. Oh, yeah, because they did talk about,

00:28:33.420 --> 00:28:35.319
like, Wendy Osefo's mom, like, potentially being

00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:36.759
a witch or something. You want to talk about

00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:38.359
her, like, taking up witchcraft just to, like,

00:28:38.380 --> 00:28:42.180
curse an entire series? And no one's going to

00:28:42.180 --> 00:28:47.630
be seeing nothing but ravens. But then Billy

00:28:47.630 --> 00:28:49.470
shows up to save the day and put the furniture

00:28:49.470 --> 00:28:52.910
together. And Billy's kind of hot. I like Billy.

00:28:53.549 --> 00:28:56.950
I can see it. I'm like, I'm into it. Emma knows

00:28:56.950 --> 00:28:59.349
my type. And like, she said the same thing when

00:28:59.349 --> 00:29:02.710
I, when I acknowledged how hot Joellen's husband

00:29:02.710 --> 00:29:06.509
is. I'm like, love him. Love him. I love a man

00:29:06.509 --> 00:29:12.130
that just looks like a man. So then we go over

00:29:12.130 --> 00:29:15.549
to Ashley's house. this was also kind of a throwaway

00:29:15.549 --> 00:29:18.569
scene too i i like ashley's son has cold induced

00:29:18.569 --> 00:29:22.849
asthma and was like doing the most intense inhaler

00:29:22.849 --> 00:29:24.789
situation i've ever seen in my life with like

00:29:24.789 --> 00:29:26.849
some vape coming out of her something i don't

00:29:26.849 --> 00:29:33.460
know a nebulizer what it was a nebulizer what

00:29:33.460 --> 00:29:37.400
is that my brother has had to use it kenny has

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.420
one it's an as it's like an inhaler but you're

00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:46.140
like breathing in oxygen and albuterol through

00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:50.220
the mask and you do like a 20 minute treatment

00:29:50.220 --> 00:29:54.859
instead of just like a you know oh okay it's

00:29:54.859 --> 00:29:59.170
real I believe it's real. I saw it on the TV.

00:29:59.309 --> 00:30:03.170
I've never seen it in real life. It does seem

00:30:03.170 --> 00:30:11.450
dramatic for a cult. And then they do this scene

00:30:11.450 --> 00:30:14.650
felt very Secret Lives of Mormon Wives to me

00:30:14.650 --> 00:30:17.849
because they did the I'm going to do a little

00:30:17.849 --> 00:30:22.569
social media thing and you see her doing it and

00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.579
She talks about how she wants to get what's his

00:30:26.579 --> 00:30:29.160
face the the owner of Audrey's what's Kevin?

00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:31.680
What is it? It doesn't matter what his name is.

00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:34.279
But like, Ashley tries talks about how she wants

00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.680
him to do more of this because it's so much more

00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.339
lucrative than the coffee shop is. And I guess

00:30:39.339 --> 00:30:42.839
they have multiple social media deals every year

00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:46.579
that are more lucrative like than what he nets

00:30:46.579 --> 00:30:49.799
in a full year at Audrey's and I'm like, Oh,

00:30:51.309 --> 00:30:52.890
I don't think he's going to like hearing that

00:30:52.890 --> 00:30:54.650
on national TV. I think that's going to be a

00:30:54.650 --> 00:30:58.130
real kick in the balls for him. I feel like the

00:30:58.130 --> 00:31:00.369
way she said it though, like I'm not the biggest

00:31:00.369 --> 00:31:04.589
fan of Ashley on this franchise, but the way

00:31:04.589 --> 00:31:09.009
she, she said it was better her delivery. Like

00:31:09.009 --> 00:31:12.250
let's compare it to Amanda from the real house

00:31:12.250 --> 00:31:14.930
size of Beverly Hills. She's not emasculating.

00:31:14.930 --> 00:31:18.089
Yeah. It was way less than that. It was a better

00:31:18.089 --> 00:31:21.309
delivery. that's fair and i don't think she meant

00:31:21.309 --> 00:31:24.089
it to be mean i think it's like i'm coming at

00:31:24.089 --> 00:31:26.190
it from the perspective of like he's working

00:31:26.190 --> 00:31:28.769
i mean you can see he's like he cares about this

00:31:28.769 --> 00:31:30.950
place and like he's like doing like he's like

00:31:30.950 --> 00:31:32.829
behind the counter and he's like he cares a lot

00:31:32.829 --> 00:31:37.390
about it i think hearing that like just saying

00:31:37.390 --> 00:31:39.630
like oh you don't want me to care about something

00:31:39.630 --> 00:31:41.690
i've cared so much about but like i i get i think

00:31:41.690 --> 00:31:44.329
you're right i think it is like i mean at least

00:31:44.329 --> 00:31:46.890
it wasn't her saying um i make the money in my

00:31:46.890 --> 00:31:52.190
house like so Yeah. No, yeah. And I also, I've

00:31:52.190 --> 00:31:54.970
liked their relationship from the first episode.

00:31:55.029 --> 00:31:57.849
I feel like they feel like true partners to me.

00:31:58.009 --> 00:32:01.289
Yes. I feel like they seem happy together. Like,

00:32:01.289 --> 00:32:03.670
and you don't get that a lot on Housewives where

00:32:03.670 --> 00:32:07.029
they just seem genuinely happy together. There's

00:32:07.029 --> 00:32:10.009
love there. You can feel it. Oh, for sure. I

00:32:10.009 --> 00:32:12.509
feel like most relationships, even the ones that

00:32:12.509 --> 00:32:14.710
I think are real, I'm always, like, questioning,

00:32:14.809 --> 00:32:19.059
like... How do you guys really get along when

00:32:19.059 --> 00:32:22.599
the cameras turn off? But for them, you can tell

00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:26.839
that they've grown together, I think. Oh, yeah.

00:32:27.140 --> 00:32:31.579
Is it Jared? Is that his name, Jared? I feel

00:32:31.579 --> 00:32:32.660
like it's Jared. We're just going to call him

00:32:32.660 --> 00:32:40.839
Jared. It's fine. Computer, tell me. Then Joellen

00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.200
heads over to her grandpa's house, and they're

00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.019
like, they all like her and her sister and her

00:32:47.019 --> 00:32:49.079
mom show up to like clean out the house and it

00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:50.700
feels like it's going to be a super heavy scene

00:32:50.700 --> 00:32:52.220
because they're dealing with like the loss of

00:32:52.220 --> 00:32:54.359
the grandpa did you find it emma you were right

00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.680
it is jared look at me remembering a man's name

00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:07.099
good enough for me And, like, so I felt like

00:33:07.099 --> 00:33:08.559
this scene was going to be super, super heavy.

00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:10.700
And it ended up being super heavy for a very

00:33:10.700 --> 00:33:12.920
different reason than what I initially thought

00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:18.400
it was going to be. So they go in. I'm just going

00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:20.059
to tell you right now, I don't like Jolin's mom.

00:33:20.180 --> 00:33:24.740
I do not like this woman because she is triggering

00:33:24.740 --> 00:33:29.160
to me in a way that, like, I don't know that

00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.480
I can put words to. I'm just like, oh, you're

00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:36.069
a bad mother. I don't think you would like your,

00:33:36.109 --> 00:33:39.849
like at least one of your daughters. So they

00:33:39.849 --> 00:33:42.769
go up to the bedroom, which I guess used to be

00:33:42.769 --> 00:33:44.490
Joellen's bedroom when she lived with her grandpa.

00:33:44.569 --> 00:33:48.269
And Joellen asks her mom if she remembers taking

00:33:48.269 --> 00:33:50.970
the sister home and leaving Joellen with her

00:33:50.970 --> 00:33:55.529
grandparents for another two weeks. This is something

00:33:55.529 --> 00:33:58.089
where, and I wholeheartedly believe, and I think

00:33:58.089 --> 00:33:59.650
I put this somewhere in the notes later, I do

00:33:59.650 --> 00:34:01.630
not think they talked about this before they

00:34:01.630 --> 00:34:04.049
went into the scene. I think this was all sprung

00:34:04.049 --> 00:34:07.009
on the mom. And I think this was the first time

00:34:07.009 --> 00:34:08.889
her mom was hearing some of this information.

00:34:09.449 --> 00:34:13.309
And you could tell when Joellen was saying it,

00:34:13.329 --> 00:34:14.769
she was like, this is something that like I've

00:34:14.769 --> 00:34:16.670
carried with me for a while. And like the mom

00:34:16.670 --> 00:34:19.250
didn't take it seriously. And like, I felt so

00:34:19.250 --> 00:34:24.460
bad. Yeah. If the mom knew that that was going

00:34:24.460 --> 00:34:26.699
to be the topic conversation, she wouldn't have

00:34:26.699 --> 00:34:30.400
been in that scene. I think. I think it was because

00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:32.920
she doesn't want to. That's why her reaction

00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:35.719
was so non -serious, because she doesn't know

00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:40.400
how to. Yeah. Okay. And I do think that was orchestrated

00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.400
by Joellen. I was going to say the same thing.

00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.380
I think Joellen said, like, probably lied and

00:34:46.380 --> 00:34:47.260
said they were going to talk about something

00:34:47.260 --> 00:34:48.920
different and then confronted her on camera.

00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:54.900
i don't i don't know if i blame her but like

00:34:54.900 --> 00:34:58.780
so here's the thing the chiropractor lady on

00:34:58.780 --> 00:35:03.000
uh potomac what was mia mia they did this to

00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.980
me as mom were like they basically sat her down

00:35:05.980 --> 00:35:08.440
and mia was like remember when you were addicted

00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.920
to drugs and like that felt very different to

00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:15.670
me because like i was like oh I feel like this

00:35:15.670 --> 00:35:18.750
mom has tried to make things right. I don't know.

00:35:19.170 --> 00:35:22.550
That did feel like a very intricate situation

00:35:22.550 --> 00:35:26.510
we weren't getting the mom's full story about.

00:35:26.610 --> 00:35:28.690
Not that she wasn't right for any of that, but

00:35:28.690 --> 00:35:30.949
it feels like there are details we don't know.

00:35:31.429 --> 00:35:36.289
Exactly. This one felt different to me. I felt

00:35:36.289 --> 00:35:40.369
like Joellen said, I'm going to put this on camera

00:35:40.369 --> 00:35:42.570
because this is the only way I'm ever going to...

00:35:43.269 --> 00:35:46.730
come home on this and like figure it out I think

00:35:46.730 --> 00:35:48.570
Mia needed a storyline I don't think Joellen's

00:35:48.570 --> 00:35:50.329
doing this for a storyline I think Joellen's

00:35:50.329 --> 00:35:52.170
doing this to heal and I think that's the difference

00:35:52.170 --> 00:35:56.469
but seeing it on camera and like because you

00:35:56.469 --> 00:35:58.309
could oh yeah I literally put this like she her

00:35:58.309 --> 00:36:00.190
mom had no idea this conversation was going to

00:36:00.190 --> 00:36:04.289
happen and this like the face that the mom made

00:36:04.289 --> 00:36:06.329
when Joellen was like I feel like I'm not nice

00:36:06.329 --> 00:36:07.849
and you were supposed to teach me how to be nice

00:36:07.849 --> 00:36:11.010
and like I don't like the way I am because of

00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:14.460
because of you for like for the lack of a better

00:36:14.460 --> 00:36:17.199
way of saying it that's where I started to feel

00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.840
bad for the mom and then this is where I stopped

00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:23.119
feeling bad for the mom where she goes she goes

00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.099
is it my fault that you exhibited some of these

00:36:26.099 --> 00:36:29.380
behaviors and like the mom like starts to like

00:36:29.380 --> 00:36:31.460
play victim a little bit and then she goes well

00:36:31.460 --> 00:36:34.619
a lot of the time I just had too much on my plate

00:36:34.619 --> 00:36:36.960
and it was overwhelming and I was like I hate

00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.480
you I have nothing for you. I was like, because

00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.059
you don't get to say that as a mom. Like, yeah,

00:36:43.139 --> 00:36:45.440
I don't know. I didn't like that. Especially

00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.500
like, yeah, I don't know. It's it's it just felt

00:36:49.500 --> 00:36:51.019
like there's a lot of lack of accountability

00:36:51.019 --> 00:36:55.639
on her part. 100%. And is it your fault that

00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.920
your child is exhibiting attention seeking behaviors?

00:36:59.059 --> 00:37:02.079
Yes. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Because your child

00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:06.320
is desperate for attention from you. it's that

00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.760
simple years of your child like who else could

00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.139
be at fault for the behavior of your baby like

00:37:12.139 --> 00:37:16.420
what do you mean and like i just felt like i

00:37:16.420 --> 00:37:19.039
would have had more respect for her if her mom

00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.079
instead of just like blowing it off was like

00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:25.289
hey yeah that was fucked up and I'm sorry and

00:37:25.289 --> 00:37:28.170
I'm so proud that you are the woman you've become

00:37:28.170 --> 00:37:31.150
today and they moved on like that I would feel

00:37:31.150 --> 00:37:34.070
differently but the way she was like oh girl

00:37:34.070 --> 00:37:37.989
or even something like because my dad has said

00:37:37.989 --> 00:37:40.829
something similar to me like where I had a weird

00:37:40.829 --> 00:37:42.909
childhood and my dad was like I didn't know how

00:37:42.909 --> 00:37:45.289
to be a dad like if she would have said something

00:37:45.289 --> 00:37:47.590
like that resembled that maybe like I could have

00:37:47.590 --> 00:37:50.210
been okay with that but I'm like yeah you're

00:37:50.210 --> 00:37:54.539
overwhelmed because everyone is overwhelmed yeah

00:37:54.539 --> 00:37:58.880
come on yes and your daughter is like begging

00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:03.239
for you to apologize yes she did so much and

00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:05.519
nothing at the same time like if she literally

00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:08.920
just apologized i think that would have made

00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:14.780
a like a big impact and i don't think we ever

00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:17.320
got an apology did we like i know we got that

00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:25.000
i'm sorry anyway okay Perfect. But the scene

00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.179
wrapped up in kind of a sweet place where like,

00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.099
and I think most of the work was done on Joellen

00:38:30.099 --> 00:38:32.360
and the sister's part. Like, I think they were

00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:34.639
like, come on, mom, like, let's, let's get you

00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:35.960
to where you don't look like a complete monster

00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.159
on camera. And Joellen was like, let's build

00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:42.260
from here. And like, it ended in kind of a sweet

00:38:42.260 --> 00:38:45.389
place. I'm glad that Joellen got that because

00:38:45.389 --> 00:38:47.489
like she did tell us in a confessional, like

00:38:47.489 --> 00:38:49.230
she's been waiting to hear some of that her entire

00:38:49.230 --> 00:38:53.010
life. So like, if Joellen's happy, I'm happy.

00:38:53.110 --> 00:38:56.909
I'll say that. It just makes me sad. But that's

00:38:56.909 --> 00:38:59.650
probably because I have kids. Yeah. But like,

00:38:59.690 --> 00:39:03.750
two things. One, can you imagine hearing that

00:39:03.750 --> 00:39:05.909
from your child being like, I don't like the

00:39:05.909 --> 00:39:09.829
way I am because of you like that? I don't know

00:39:09.829 --> 00:39:11.289
that you can come back from that. That's hard

00:39:11.289 --> 00:39:15.090
to hear. I wasn't going to say this because I

00:39:15.090 --> 00:39:19.110
don't actually feel this way, but I do think

00:39:19.110 --> 00:39:23.050
it's possible. Joellen's mom heard that from

00:39:23.050 --> 00:39:26.690
her and it really cut her deeply because she

00:39:26.690 --> 00:39:30.630
knows she kind of ignored Joellen, for lack of

00:39:30.630 --> 00:39:33.670
a better term, when she was growing up. And she

00:39:33.670 --> 00:39:38.730
had to kind of not be serious and keep it up

00:39:38.730 --> 00:39:42.449
and keep it light or else she would have... exploded

00:39:42.449 --> 00:39:45.010
like really let it out and she was on camera

00:39:45.010 --> 00:39:49.909
I didn't really get that vibe but I can see that

00:39:49.909 --> 00:39:52.170
like I feel like if someone really genuinely

00:39:52.170 --> 00:39:55.150
hurt my feelings on camera I would also kind

00:39:55.150 --> 00:39:57.969
of laugh it off like shut down a little bit almost

00:39:57.969 --> 00:39:59.750
and it's like I have to give you this reaction

00:39:59.750 --> 00:40:02.369
because if I give you the real one like none

00:40:02.369 --> 00:40:06.269
of us are coming back for me yeah I don't I don't

00:40:06.269 --> 00:40:08.829
really see that happening but I feel like I can

00:40:08.829 --> 00:40:14.489
see How that should happen. I would accept that

00:40:14.489 --> 00:40:17.909
as an explanation, sure. And then, thing two,

00:40:18.070 --> 00:40:21.710
the way Joellen's sister was sitting on that

00:40:21.710 --> 00:40:26.289
porch looked so uncomfortable to me. Like, were

00:40:26.289 --> 00:40:29.170
her, like, legs, like, folded under her? Like,

00:40:29.170 --> 00:40:35.590
I... It's not numb. Like, looking at it, I'm

00:40:35.590 --> 00:40:38.250
like, oh, my God, my legs are falling asleep.

00:40:38.489 --> 00:40:52.929
Like, what is happening? so then we get a Liz

00:40:52.929 --> 00:40:57.550
and Dolores scene I like we've talked a little

00:40:57.550 --> 00:40:59.869
bit about we haven't but like we've heard a little

00:40:59.869 --> 00:41:03.760
bit about how as the season went on and like

00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:06.119
as filming went on they realized dolores didn't

00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.340
need as much of a role as like they initially

00:41:08.340 --> 00:41:10.780
thought she was going to because the all of these

00:41:10.780 --> 00:41:14.460
women ended up being so strong i love every opportunity

00:41:14.460 --> 00:41:17.519
we get to see dolores catania though i that what

00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:23.639
a woman i love her so much i love her i do yeah

00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.519
and like this felt like kind of a throwaway scene

00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:29.739
like where it was just like oh we're like soft

00:41:29.739 --> 00:41:32.010
launching like another one of our like product

00:41:32.010 --> 00:41:34.150
spinoffs or whatever like every housewife does

00:41:34.150 --> 00:41:38.369
um but we find out that liz and dolores are developing

00:41:38.369 --> 00:41:42.389
a supplement line in the um cannabis space to

00:41:42.389 --> 00:41:44.349
help women who are experiencing menopause symptoms

00:41:44.349 --> 00:41:50.630
and i i was really impressed by this like because

00:41:50.630 --> 00:41:53.690
number one you i I don't look at Dolores and

00:41:53.690 --> 00:41:55.710
Liz and think, like, they're old enough to have

00:41:55.710 --> 00:41:58.690
been going through menopause. Like, I don't know

00:41:58.690 --> 00:42:01.130
what age that, like, on average that happens.

00:42:01.409 --> 00:42:04.070
It's so much earlier than you think. When does

00:42:04.070 --> 00:42:06.590
it start? Perimenopause, which is, like, the

00:42:06.590 --> 00:42:08.969
beginning stages of, like, you're starting to

00:42:08.969 --> 00:42:15.630
get there. Early 50s. Really? Yes. I thought

00:42:15.630 --> 00:42:18.730
this was a thing that started, like, at the earliest,

00:42:18.769 --> 00:42:23.349
like, 65. So like full blown menopause is probably

00:42:23.349 --> 00:42:27.650
closer to 65, but I guess starting at like late

00:42:27.650 --> 00:42:30.809
forties, early fifties, you start getting like

00:42:30.809 --> 00:42:36.110
hot flashes and like fits of rage and stuff like

00:42:36.110 --> 00:42:43.630
that. Sure. I had no idea. It's crazy. I had

00:42:43.630 --> 00:42:48.420
no idea that started either. I obviously I didn't

00:42:48.420 --> 00:42:51.400
either. But like, Dolores and Liz start to like

00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:53.599
unpack their experiences with some of these symptoms.

00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:55.639
And like, I was also really impressed because

00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:57.099
like, this is something that you don't really

00:42:57.099 --> 00:42:59.719
hear a lot about, like, especially on Housewives,

00:42:59.780 --> 00:43:02.380
where like, I think a lot of these women, and

00:43:02.380 --> 00:43:04.960
this is more so a problem, like on the West Coast

00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.079
with Housewives, but like, I think it's a it's

00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:11.159
a problem. Universally, we're like, society and

00:43:11.869 --> 00:43:13.909
women especially feel like they have to cling

00:43:13.909 --> 00:43:16.650
to youth because like when you start aging like

00:43:16.650 --> 00:43:18.389
that's where you like start to lose value right

00:43:18.389 --> 00:43:21.909
and they started talking about like some of the

00:43:21.909 --> 00:43:24.150
real stuff that's happening and I was just really

00:43:24.150 --> 00:43:27.869
impressed by them and I I know Liz like makes

00:43:27.869 --> 00:43:30.809
a couple of missteps um later this season and

00:43:30.809 --> 00:43:32.389
that's fine I'll accept it for her because I

00:43:32.389 --> 00:43:34.730
still like her I love these two women I love

00:43:34.730 --> 00:43:36.269
their friendship I love everything about them

00:43:36.269 --> 00:43:41.300
and I love that they are like ambassadors for

00:43:41.300 --> 00:43:45.820
uh menopause camp oh there we go where did he

00:43:45.820 --> 00:43:51.219
go i was like does he not want to hear how much

00:43:51.219 --> 00:43:58.320
i love doris dolores and liz he's like actually

00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:05.079
i don't like liz as much as you do that is so

00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.110
funny but I enjoyed that scene. I didn't think

00:44:08.110 --> 00:44:11.110
it was a throwaway scene, but I was like... No,

00:44:11.150 --> 00:44:13.170
I was so happy it was there because you're right,

00:44:13.269 --> 00:44:17.210
especially menopause in particular affects pretty

00:44:17.210 --> 00:44:21.670
much every woman as they age. You never hear

00:44:21.670 --> 00:44:24.690
anyone talk about it. Think about how many times

00:44:24.690 --> 00:44:27.309
we talk about erectile dysfunction happening

00:44:27.309 --> 00:44:29.769
in men as they get older. But no one talks about

00:44:29.769 --> 00:44:32.769
menopause, which actually is rocking you on a

00:44:32.769 --> 00:44:36.309
daily basis, which is crazy. So I was... so happy

00:44:36.309 --> 00:44:37.710
they were talking about it and I think they're

00:44:37.710 --> 00:44:39.550
the perfect women to talk about it because they're

00:44:39.550 --> 00:44:45.110
like confident and hot yeah well and that's the

00:44:45.110 --> 00:44:50.489
thing too is like Dolores and Liz are both like

00:44:50.489 --> 00:44:53.449
just obnoxiously attractive and I'm like you

00:44:53.449 --> 00:44:56.230
don't look at them and think like these are women

00:44:56.230 --> 00:44:59.070
who are dealing with menopause but like they

00:44:59.070 --> 00:45:01.349
are like that's the reality of it like and I'm

00:45:01.349 --> 00:45:03.969
glad that you know I'm glad that hot people have

00:45:03.969 --> 00:45:07.960
a voice Yeah, whoever their plastic surgeon is,

00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:12.539
like, like, does an amazing job on, you know,

00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.719
on both of them. What I love, especially Dolores,

00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:18.900
is that following her journey, like, since she

00:45:18.900 --> 00:45:22.119
started, not even when, because she was featured

00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.360
on the show a couple times before she became

00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:28.440
full -time housewife, as she was when her kids

00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:32.440
were little. It's still... kept her like she

00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:34.300
doesn't look like a different person it's still

00:45:34.300 --> 00:45:37.860
her but it's like youthful and like keeping up

00:45:37.860 --> 00:45:41.400
she's a beautiful woman like yeah i love a woman

00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:44.119
who like it's a maintenance thing she's like

00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.179
maintaining her natural face and just getting

00:45:47.179 --> 00:45:52.949
it like you know redoing gravity and also I feel

00:45:52.949 --> 00:45:54.849
like I just need to say, those are, like, two

00:45:54.849 --> 00:45:57.150
examples of women who are, like, you're not,

00:45:57.190 --> 00:45:58.889
like, oh, my God, they look so good for their

00:45:58.889 --> 00:46:02.210
age. No, no, no. No, they're just hot. Period.

00:46:03.849 --> 00:46:07.690
Like, and I, like, I don't know what Liz looked

00:46:07.690 --> 00:46:09.630
like when she was younger, but, like, I remember

00:46:09.630 --> 00:46:12.469
seeing, I mean, Dolores was on, like, was not

00:46:12.469 --> 00:46:14.750
a friend of, but, like, I know she's Caroline

00:46:14.750 --> 00:46:17.590
Manzo's friend from, like, very, very, very early

00:46:17.590 --> 00:46:19.210
on. And, like, I remember seeing her in, like,

00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:23.079
season one or two of New Jersey. always looked

00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:27.920
like herself but like like she's she we've seen

00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.139
pictures of her like when it's like we do flashbacks

00:46:30.139 --> 00:46:31.880
like talking about when she was like a correctional

00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.840
officer at the jail or like whatever she's always

00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:39.079
been just obnoxiously hot like oh it's so annoying

00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:42.300
how hot she is like what a woman what an absolute

00:46:42.300 --> 00:46:46.619
woman not just her personality too it's just

00:46:46.619 --> 00:46:49.550
like She has an attractive personality. Yeah,

00:46:49.690 --> 00:46:51.670
you want to talk about someone who's not ever

00:46:51.670 --> 00:46:55.590
putting on a show for anyone ever. God, I love

00:46:55.590 --> 00:46:58.269
her. She has never once said something she didn't

00:46:58.269 --> 00:47:02.389
mean with her chest. I know. And, like, even

00:47:02.389 --> 00:47:04.769
that scene, we've talked about this before, but

00:47:04.769 --> 00:47:07.969
that scene with Margaret Josephs where I don't

00:47:07.969 --> 00:47:11.070
know if Margaret actually, I assume Margaret

00:47:11.070 --> 00:47:13.530
actually said whatever, like, she said, she said.

00:47:14.050 --> 00:47:19.210
But my... Just base level assumption is that

00:47:19.210 --> 00:47:21.409
Dolores either doesn't remember hearing it or

00:47:21.409 --> 00:47:24.070
heard something and like didn't think anything

00:47:24.070 --> 00:47:27.130
of it. And like when she's confronted with that

00:47:27.130 --> 00:47:31.190
reality, just start screaming, you lying cunt

00:47:31.190 --> 00:47:36.730
at Margaret. And I'm like, I would even accept

00:47:36.730 --> 00:47:38.829
that from Dolores. I would accept being on the

00:47:38.829 --> 00:47:42.500
receiving end of that. I wish she would yell

00:47:42.500 --> 00:47:49.760
at me. Oh, my God. It needs some privacy. Oh,

00:47:49.860 --> 00:47:55.119
Lord. But then Rula and Brian are getting ready

00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:58.699
to host a double date dinner with Alicia and

00:47:58.699 --> 00:48:02.260
Billy. And I hate Brian. I'm just going to say

00:48:02.260 --> 00:48:04.559
that. I hate Brian. I hate everything about Brian.

00:48:04.659 --> 00:48:08.619
I think he's a trash man. I think that I don't

00:48:08.619 --> 00:48:15.480
like. anything about him but um yeah he's just

00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:20.039
he's he's yucky the sleaze yes yeah yucky like

00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:27.599
sleazy yeah yeah uh but he um he doesn't deserve

00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:29.400
Rula I'm just gonna go I'm just gonna start by

00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:33.579
saying that Rula is obnoxiously hot also like

00:48:33.579 --> 00:48:35.820
she's someone I would put in that same realm

00:48:35.820 --> 00:48:38.059
of like Dolores and Liz where I'm just like you're

00:48:38.059 --> 00:48:40.659
i just want to look at you like you're so pretty

00:48:40.659 --> 00:48:43.800
and like you're so like your personality is very

00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:48.039
easy i like all of it but um they're like getting

00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.159
ready for dinner alicia and billy show up and

00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.440
it's wildly awkward because alicia knows that

00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.719
brian was literally just running around on rula

00:48:54.719 --> 00:49:00.179
two weeks before this and like i love where she

00:49:00.179 --> 00:49:01.679
comes in she's like i know what you did last

00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:03.639
weekend like i have it written all over my face

00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:07.920
i'm like i love you so much um thank you because

00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.059
i would not show up to someone's house knowing

00:49:11.059 --> 00:49:14.980
that and just like not say anything i don't like

00:49:14.980 --> 00:49:18.860
how is she gonna say that it kind of gave me

00:49:18.860 --> 00:49:22.480
vibes of that scene from the real house of atlanta

00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.400
when the producers were wanting cynthia to tell

00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.139
fade or something and she was like taking forever

00:49:28.139 --> 00:49:33.800
because she's not good at that So, yeah. Yeah.

00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:38.000
I was glad she was just like, hey. But she never

00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.059
said it. That was the thing. She never said it

00:49:40.059 --> 00:49:43.679
to Rula. Like, we only got it from her in the

00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:51.000
confessional. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Okay. Like,

00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.940
because that was the thing. She really never

00:49:53.940 --> 00:49:57.000
said it out loud there, did she? No, she didn't.

00:49:57.420 --> 00:49:59.800
How did she get through that dinner? because

00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:01.460
how are you gonna sit there and just be like

00:50:01.460 --> 00:50:04.340
here's the thing i think there's a lot of like

00:50:04.340 --> 00:50:06.599
producer magic happening there but like because

00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.159
you can tell there were moments of that dinner

00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:13.000
where it was like painfully uncomfortable but

00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.800
like i thought it was just tense because they

00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:20.980
all know that he's no no i think joellen is actually

00:50:20.980 --> 00:50:24.559
the only one who has actually said to brian i

00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:26.679
know what you're doing you're a liar you're a

00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:30.630
cheater and i hate you and everyone else is just

00:50:30.630 --> 00:50:33.550
like la la la la la so weird and uncomfortable

00:50:33.550 --> 00:50:38.989
but um but yeah no like so she never says it

00:50:38.989 --> 00:50:41.250
but like i mean you're not gonna go into someone's

00:50:41.250 --> 00:50:43.329
house and like ruin the entire dinner so like

00:50:43.329 --> 00:50:46.690
i i don't blame you oh don't invite me to your

00:50:46.690 --> 00:50:48.949
house if you've told me that your husband is

00:50:48.949 --> 00:50:54.210
cheating on you i think maybe like the the producer's

00:50:54.210 --> 00:50:58.170
plan was to have her say something at that dinner

00:50:58.170 --> 00:51:00.829
but then um her husband was like i don't want

00:51:00.829 --> 00:51:03.030
to sit through this i don't want i don't want

00:51:03.030 --> 00:51:06.510
i don't i will yeah probably get on board with

00:51:06.510 --> 00:51:10.389
that theory um because billy does seem like the

00:51:10.389 --> 00:51:17.519
guy that's like honey not tonight But we also

00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.340
like go on to like hearing Brian talk a lot.

00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:22.380
Like Brian feels like he's the kind of guy that

00:51:22.380 --> 00:51:24.380
like sucks all the oxygen out of a room where

00:51:24.380 --> 00:51:26.340
he's like, first of all, he's a podiatrist. I

00:51:26.340 --> 00:51:28.280
want to, I want to say, start by saying he is

00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.880
a, he's a foot doctor, which there's, there is

00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.159
a need for that. There's nothing wrong with that,

00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:34.059
but he's selling Ozempic and Botox out of his

00:51:34.059 --> 00:51:38.219
podiatry practice. Why? Number one, like that

00:51:38.219 --> 00:51:41.900
makes, it's like, it's, it's, I don't, I don't

00:51:41.900 --> 00:51:49.199
get it. Number two, we find out. Maybe. But you're

00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:56.320
lighter on your feet. But we find out he's using,

00:51:56.380 --> 00:51:58.340
he's dipping into his own inventory and he's

00:51:58.340 --> 00:52:01.480
microdosing Ozempic and then he's taking steroids

00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:03.739
when he's getting too skinny. And I'm like, I

00:52:03.739 --> 00:52:08.480
hate you. I hate everything about you. And you

00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:16.809
just stop talking. And like, What really got

00:52:16.809 --> 00:52:21.190
me is he has been to medical school. He graduated

00:52:21.190 --> 00:52:26.610
from medical school. Yes. I ended up tuning him

00:52:26.610 --> 00:52:31.030
out, if I'm being so real with you. Yeah, I agree

00:52:31.030 --> 00:52:33.389
with you on that because I don't want to see

00:52:33.389 --> 00:52:37.469
him. It just gives me the icks. Is that true?

00:52:38.530 --> 00:52:43.440
It's not the real working husband. Okay. Real

00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:48.920
housewives. Get out of here. But what gave me

00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.139
the bigger ick, though, is, like, he gets a text,

00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.500
he looks at his phone, and then immediately looks

00:52:53.500 --> 00:52:55.780
guilty. So you know it's the mistress. And what

00:52:55.780 --> 00:52:57.739
we have since found out about this mistress is

00:52:57.739 --> 00:53:01.719
she's desperate to get an ounce of notoriety.

00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.960
Like, she has, like, in her Instagram bio, like,

00:53:05.019 --> 00:53:07.280
she's, like, talking about how she's, like, dating

00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:12.000
him. Like, it's... She's wild. Like... And it

00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.179
makes me uncomfortable. But then I was like,

00:53:15.219 --> 00:53:17.059
oh, nothing's going to top how I feel about this

00:53:17.059 --> 00:53:19.159
man right now. And then he comes back to the

00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:21.820
table after leaving to text his mistress and

00:53:21.820 --> 00:53:24.400
tells a story about how when he met Rula, he

00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.679
told the bartender for every drink that I have,

00:53:27.780 --> 00:53:30.400
give her a double shot. And I'm like, maybe we

00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.260
don't ever repeat that out loud because that

00:53:32.260 --> 00:53:34.159
is something to be ashamed of. You could have

00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:36.949
died with that. You could have died with that.

00:53:37.070 --> 00:53:39.510
Should have taken that to your grave. Like, and

00:53:39.510 --> 00:53:42.030
Rula, if you ever hear this, Rula, I want you

00:53:42.030 --> 00:53:44.489
to know you are better than him. You deserve

00:53:44.489 --> 00:53:46.409
better than him. I just want you to know that.

00:53:46.789 --> 00:53:50.630
I think also with the, because like she's Lebanese

00:53:50.630 --> 00:53:52.929
and like, like speaking from my culture, like

00:53:52.929 --> 00:53:57.829
about that stuff. I know that. And I totally

00:53:57.829 --> 00:54:00.679
like. that mentality needs to be out of there

00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:03.219
it's like oh if your husband is like going outside

00:54:03.219 --> 00:54:05.260
of the home and doing stuff there's something

00:54:05.260 --> 00:54:08.699
missing inside the house so it's blaming the

00:54:08.699 --> 00:54:11.199
woman and i'm like because she said something

00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:14.360
on there that was like oh uh this is like my

00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.159
i don't know if it's her second marriage and

00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:18.860
like culture is like strict on that and she's

00:54:18.860 --> 00:54:21.440
really trying her best to like make it work but

00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:24.019
i'm like okay but you were you raised here like

00:54:24.019 --> 00:54:27.980
you that does not like you should get that out

00:54:27.980 --> 00:54:30.400
of your mind because that's not even true. Like,

00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:36.159
like I, you know, I don't know. Like you have

00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.460
this man with only the worst of intentions, the

00:54:39.460 --> 00:54:44.079
worst reputation. And like, I don't think there's

00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:47.840
anyone on this earth who is really deep down

00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:53.679
going to blame you for leaving. My honest to

00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:57.369
God question for like, just to, to what Cam said

00:54:57.369 --> 00:55:00.349
is what, what does Rula think she's missing?

00:55:00.670 --> 00:55:02.710
Cause number one, she's smart. Number two, I

00:55:02.710 --> 00:55:04.730
mean, you realize an Emma and I come from the

00:55:04.730 --> 00:55:06.989
financial world. She, she runs her own financial

00:55:06.989 --> 00:55:09.949
planning firm. Like she's smart. Like, cause

00:55:09.949 --> 00:55:12.250
you, you can't do that and be an idiot. Number

00:55:12.250 --> 00:55:18.329
three, she's as hot as the day is long. And she's

00:55:18.329 --> 00:55:21.010
got money. Like she's got her own money. What,

00:55:21.050 --> 00:55:25.139
what is missing? nothing the only thing i could

00:55:25.139 --> 00:55:28.179
think of is probably her kids she's trying to

00:55:28.179 --> 00:55:32.980
probably make it as try as much as possible for

00:55:32.980 --> 00:55:38.380
her kids but that it's just that's it's not a

00:55:38.380 --> 00:55:40.820
good it feels like the right thing is not the

00:55:40.820 --> 00:55:44.010
right thing yeah That sucks. We've seen that

00:55:44.010 --> 00:55:48.449
so many times. We have. You know what I respect

00:55:48.449 --> 00:55:53.829
about this franchise, though, is that as much

00:55:53.829 --> 00:55:55.530
as I hate seeing the husband, because I really

00:55:55.530 --> 00:56:01.150
do, it's more about her husband is absolutely

00:56:01.150 --> 00:56:05.449
awful and she does not deserve the treatment

00:56:05.449 --> 00:56:07.550
that she's getting. She deserves a million times

00:56:07.550 --> 00:56:12.849
better. It's about that more than I feel like

00:56:12.849 --> 00:56:15.750
it's about the girls attacking her for it. And

00:56:15.750 --> 00:56:21.250
I appreciate you watching that. Yeah. Any other

00:56:21.250 --> 00:56:25.030
city that I've seen, unfortunately, would be

00:56:25.030 --> 00:56:27.269
given that information and start attacking Rula

00:56:27.269 --> 00:56:30.869
left, right, and center. Instead of being like,

00:56:31.150 --> 00:56:37.670
I hate this guy. Yeah. I don't know. That's hard.

00:56:39.779 --> 00:56:43.000
But, oh, oh, and then, okay, so then we head

00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.699
over to Rosie's house with Kelsey. This is what

00:56:46.699 --> 00:56:53.519
Cam showed up for. Here we go. So I want to start

00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:55.400
by saying, so we get Kelsey on the phone with

00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:57.360
Billy, where we get the lower third saying that's

00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.079
Kelsey's only boyfriend. And I love the producer

00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:03.500
shade there. But Kelsey does say, we've moved

00:57:03.500 --> 00:57:05.679
past all the ugliness, and we are in a place

00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:09.300
where we can joke about this now. I'm going to

00:57:09.300 --> 00:57:12.679
start by saying, I believe Kelsey went into this

00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:15.820
with lighthearted intentions of just being like,

00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.400
oh, ha ha ha, whatever, this will be funny. I

00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:24.099
do believe that. We get the, like, cut over to

00:57:24.099 --> 00:57:28.679
Rosie calling her husband, saying, that she laid

00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:30.579
out the plans for the expansion on the counter

00:57:30.579 --> 00:57:32.260
and she's going to force Kelsey to look at them

00:57:32.260 --> 00:57:34.059
when she gets there. And I'm like, okay, whatever.

00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:36.579
Like, I don't know who that's for. I say all

00:57:36.579 --> 00:57:40.199
that to say, Kelsey rolls up with a literal siren

00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:43.960
going off where she's obviously trying to be

00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.760
funny. And this was stupid. Like this was, I'm

00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:52.820
just like, okay, whatever. But. Rosie says, I

00:57:52.820 --> 00:57:54.780
live in a very nice community where there's a

00:57:54.780 --> 00:57:57.420
no siren ordinance. First of all, that can't

00:57:57.420 --> 00:57:59.780
be a real thing. I didn't take the time to Google

00:57:59.780 --> 00:58:03.840
it. I cannot imagine that you're maybe a noise

00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:08.760
safety issue, yes, but maybe a noise ordinance.

00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:12.239
I don't believe that the HOA got together and

00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:14.679
they were like, we're going to put in the bylaws

00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:18.199
that you can't have sirens. Shut up. So then

00:58:21.089 --> 00:58:23.030
Kelsey gets out of the car and immediately says,

00:58:23.070 --> 00:58:25.190
I just had to bust your balls a little bit. So

00:58:25.190 --> 00:58:28.030
she goes into it saying like, oh, like it was

00:58:28.030 --> 00:58:29.570
supposed to be funny, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

00:58:31.750 --> 00:58:36.309
They go in the house and Rosie is clearly like,

00:58:36.369 --> 00:58:39.250
she's not going to get over this. And it's, it's

00:58:39.250 --> 00:58:43.369
a very, very ugly thing. And she hands Kelsey

00:58:43.369 --> 00:58:45.829
a measuring tape. I'm like this, this was going

00:58:45.829 --> 00:58:47.869
to go nowhere fast. And then, so it escalates

00:58:47.869 --> 00:58:52.659
so quickly. My bigger thing that like I keep

00:58:52.659 --> 00:58:54.260
coming back to is there has to be something here

00:58:54.260 --> 00:58:56.019
we don't know. Like there has to be something

00:58:56.019 --> 00:58:57.800
where there was like bad blood between them before

00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.599
this because like I do not believe this is a

00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:02.980
fight over saying your house is not 8 ,000 square

00:59:02.980 --> 00:59:06.179
feet and you had a polyamorous relationship.

00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:08.940
I do not believe that that's what we're seeing

00:59:08.940 --> 00:59:11.739
here. I'm sorry. What are your thoughts? Maybe

00:59:11.739 --> 00:59:14.659
that is what they're fighting about. Okay. Do

00:59:14.659 --> 00:59:17.739
you actually believe that though? No, there's

00:59:17.739 --> 00:59:22.300
no way. Unless they just really, the vibe is

00:59:22.300 --> 00:59:25.099
off. Hold on. Okay. Cam, what are your thoughts?

00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:28.480
I mean, it just sounds like, I mean, her relationship

00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:34.199
is open, right? Like, am I, am I not understanding

00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:37.920
it or? Well, it was open before she broke up

00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:41.699
with the other guy. And so I think they've acknowledged

00:59:41.699 --> 00:59:47.440
that, but like. I cannot imagine that like Rosie

00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:50.820
calling that out is like why they hate. And here's

00:59:50.820 --> 00:59:52.239
the thing. I don't think a lot of the hate is

00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:55.840
coming from Kelsey's side. Like I think this

00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:58.260
is an aggression from Rosie. So I can't figure

00:59:58.260 --> 01:00:01.139
out why Rosie feels the way she does about Kelsey.

01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:04.860
It doesn't feel very genuine. It feels manufactured.

01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:11.809
Like it's very. why would you get so mad at somebody

01:00:11.809 --> 01:00:15.449
for just making some comments about the upgrades

01:00:15.449 --> 01:00:17.449
you're trying to make your house or like expanding

01:00:17.449 --> 01:00:20.050
your home or something like that because yeah

01:00:20.050 --> 01:00:24.030
it's annoying you like it's shady but i mean

01:00:24.030 --> 01:00:27.829
if you put rosie in the like the shade and the

01:00:27.829 --> 01:00:31.469
reeds in another franchise like atlanta she wouldn't

01:00:31.469 --> 01:00:38.210
last a day no no she wouldn't So it escalates,

01:00:38.210 --> 01:00:41.829
and then Rosie starts screaming, you are literally

01:00:41.829 --> 01:00:47.349
no one. And this is where I'm like, oh, you think

01:00:47.349 --> 01:00:49.190
you're better than these other women, at least

01:00:49.190 --> 01:00:53.610
some of the other women. And you see Kelsey as

01:00:53.610 --> 01:00:56.090
someone who is in a perfect world, your peer.

01:00:56.610 --> 01:00:59.269
You don't like her, and you think that you're

01:00:59.269 --> 01:01:03.599
better than her. Rosie turns into just an absolute

01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:05.739
monster saying that the only thing Kelsey ever

01:01:05.739 --> 01:01:07.579
did was win a pageant because her sugar daddy

01:01:07.579 --> 01:01:10.019
paid for it. And then she takes her suitcase

01:01:10.019 --> 01:01:12.239
with the hair supplies in it, throws it outside,

01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:16.179
and then pushes Kelsey out the door. And this...

01:01:16.409 --> 01:01:19.070
might be one of my toxic traits but i love when

01:01:19.070 --> 01:01:21.610
we see a producer step in like have to step in

01:01:21.610 --> 01:01:23.710
because like it's getting physical i love it

01:01:23.710 --> 01:01:27.929
so much like a referee yes like like uh hang

01:01:27.929 --> 01:01:30.570
on let's let's cool it down a little bit and

01:01:30.570 --> 01:01:33.170
then like so she's like screaming like get out

01:01:33.170 --> 01:01:34.590
of my house get in my like whatever and like

01:01:34.590 --> 01:01:37.130
the the reaction felt disproportionate like i

01:01:37.130 --> 01:01:39.070
literally put in the notes i feel like rosie

01:01:39.070 --> 01:01:41.030
might need to talk to someone like something

01:01:41.030 --> 01:01:45.110
feels off here but that's neither here nor there

01:01:45.110 --> 01:01:48.889
and then i love kelsey because i believe in her

01:01:48.889 --> 01:01:51.570
mind this is all a very simple little argument

01:01:51.570 --> 01:01:53.829
that she's just she so she goes back into the

01:01:53.829 --> 01:01:58.070
house and she goes um for the record rosie i

01:01:58.070 --> 01:02:00.650
won that pageant fair and square and i don't

01:02:00.650 --> 01:02:04.469
suck dick for a living you're so pure and i love

01:02:04.469 --> 01:02:13.190
you so much And then Rosie's reaction, because

01:02:13.190 --> 01:02:16.289
this was Cam's episode, Cam, I want you to give

01:02:16.289 --> 01:02:20.170
the iconic line that we got from Rosie in this

01:02:20.170 --> 01:02:23.690
moment. Oh my God. Okay. She did call her a slam

01:02:23.690 --> 01:02:31.369
pig. I'm trying to, I honestly forgot. She leans

01:02:31.369 --> 01:02:34.070
over the balcony in her house and goes, everybody

01:02:34.070 --> 01:02:36.050
in Rhode Island knows you fuck married men. You're

01:02:36.050 --> 01:02:42.050
a fucking slam pig. well the dog also the dog

01:02:42.050 --> 01:02:44.289
made it her dog was like i don't know why they

01:02:44.289 --> 01:02:49.190
captured a like a shot of the dog during all

01:02:49.190 --> 01:02:51.650
of that and then there's a meme right now online

01:02:51.650 --> 01:02:54.030
that's like it's like if i send you a picture

01:02:54.030 --> 01:02:56.849
and if this picture that means i'm calling you

01:02:56.849 --> 01:03:01.389
a slam pig and it's the picture of the dog so

01:03:01.389 --> 01:03:04.050
out of this chaos i was like why are they like

01:03:04.050 --> 01:03:06.030
what does the dog have to do with this why are

01:03:06.030 --> 01:03:11.909
they adding the dog there's something i love

01:03:11.909 --> 01:03:14.849
about and housewives does this better than any

01:03:14.849 --> 01:03:19.630
other reality television show where the the the

01:03:19.630 --> 01:03:22.250
person whose job it is to get b -roll footage

01:03:22.250 --> 01:03:26.070
like where it's like the camera is like it's

01:03:26.070 --> 01:03:28.690
either the camera is laid down or like it's just

01:03:28.690 --> 01:03:30.849
like they're focusing on something else like

01:03:30.849 --> 01:03:35.110
those are like those are the housewives moments

01:03:35.110 --> 01:03:37.809
that like i really really love and care about

01:03:37.809 --> 01:03:42.230
like it's the um it's the cameraman picking up

01:03:42.230 --> 01:03:47.269
the the the um camera like to run into heather's

01:03:47.269 --> 01:03:51.349
room on vacation it's the like i didn't i didn't

01:03:51.349 --> 01:03:53.190
know i needed this until i had it and it's like

01:03:53.190 --> 01:03:55.050
now i know that i like i'm getting something

01:03:55.050 --> 01:04:00.250
real and good but so i guess a couple of questions

01:04:00.250 --> 01:04:04.550
cam um one Whose side are you on in this fight,

01:04:04.690 --> 01:04:07.690
Rosie or Kelsey's? I'm on Kelsey's side. I mean,

01:04:07.710 --> 01:04:12.429
I understand where, like, it probably wouldn't

01:04:12.429 --> 01:04:15.409
really be a good idea to show up with the whole

01:04:15.409 --> 01:04:18.289
microphone thing if you don't know the vibe of

01:04:18.289 --> 01:04:21.989
that person. But the reason why I'm siding with

01:04:21.989 --> 01:04:25.449
Kelsey is because I don't think she expected

01:04:25.449 --> 01:04:28.969
that reaction because it's not such a big deal.

01:04:30.670 --> 01:04:33.590
but if you get out of the car and you you literally

01:04:33.590 --> 01:04:35.389
say out loud i just had to bust your balls a

01:04:35.389 --> 01:04:39.849
little bit like yeah you knew it wasn't me just

01:04:39.849 --> 01:04:43.030
being mean like i was just joking like she she

01:04:43.030 --> 01:04:45.570
literally says it like it's just it's a weird

01:04:45.570 --> 01:04:48.230
sensitivity i don't get that's so i agree with

01:04:48.230 --> 01:04:50.170
you emma what were you gonna say i feel this

01:04:50.170 --> 01:04:53.369
i know i feel the exact same way it feels like

01:04:53.369 --> 01:04:57.840
i don't know to explain it it's like she went

01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:01.380
in there with the best of intentions and I feel

01:05:01.380 --> 01:05:03.280
for her because we've all been there where we're

01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:05.900
like you know trying to joke around and play

01:05:05.900 --> 01:05:10.019
around and that's not the vibe yeah and I feel

01:05:10.019 --> 01:05:12.739
like she really got put into a situation that

01:05:12.739 --> 01:05:15.679
she didn't expect to be in and I would have a

01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:20.820
hard time siding with Rosie like after seeing

01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:23.800
how it all went down You know, like, I would

01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:27.039
get Rosie's point of view of being like, like,

01:05:27.059 --> 01:05:30.099
don't come into my space and be like that. Like,

01:05:30.099 --> 01:05:34.699
whatever. But the way she flips her lid, it's

01:05:34.699 --> 01:05:37.800
like, how can you really? I mean, sometimes,

01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:40.699
like, I feel like sometimes you are the victim,

01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:43.340
but your actions make you the villain. I think

01:05:43.340 --> 01:05:46.840
that's exactly what happened here. And, I mean,

01:05:46.860 --> 01:05:51.360
for Rosie, I think she wants to be that main

01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:55.019
character. like on this franchise but we we just

01:05:55.019 --> 01:06:01.619
saw the seating chart yeah for the reunion I

01:06:01.619 --> 01:06:08.519
will tell you this is one reunion I like I get

01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:11.159
excited for most actually that's a lie I get

01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:12.940
excited for most reunions that aren't Orange

01:06:12.940 --> 01:06:14.960
County and Beverly Hills because like I'm just

01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:19.949
I've moved past those cities entirely but i am

01:06:19.949 --> 01:06:24.190
so excited to see this reunion because i think

01:06:24.190 --> 01:06:28.789
these this is a group of women who i i think

01:06:28.789 --> 01:06:31.250
we've seen everything up until this point has

01:06:31.250 --> 01:06:36.550
been very very real and i think i think this

01:06:36.550 --> 01:06:39.590
reunion is going to be gold like i am so excited

01:06:39.590 --> 01:06:44.429
yeah yeah um question between them so that's

01:06:44.429 --> 01:06:46.690
gonna a lot of that stuff is gonna come up yeah

01:06:46.690 --> 01:06:50.099
question number two and this is for all of us

01:06:50.099 --> 01:06:52.219
if you could be friends with any of these women

01:06:52.219 --> 01:06:54.099
on the cast who would who would you be friends

01:06:54.099 --> 01:07:03.639
with i'm gonna say joellen okay beautiful and

01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:07.139
it's like i i don't know like if i take a picture

01:07:07.139 --> 01:07:09.559
with her and post it on instagram that's gonna

01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.519
dramatically change my feed like it's gonna be

01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:17.849
amazing i agree i would be friends with joellen

01:07:17.849 --> 01:07:22.150
too number one i think she's she and her husband

01:07:22.150 --> 01:07:24.090
are both as hot as the day is long like they

01:07:24.090 --> 01:07:28.989
are so obnoxiously hot number two i think that

01:07:28.989 --> 01:07:32.570
she is the kind of friend like i i go back to

01:07:32.570 --> 01:07:35.449
that scene where they're at the polo match and

01:07:35.449 --> 01:07:38.760
she says to rula If you want proof, I'll find

01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:41.099
you proof. I believe that is a ride or die friend.

01:07:41.260 --> 01:07:43.500
And I think like she would go to the ends of

01:07:43.500 --> 01:07:47.119
the earth for her friends. I 100 % am Joellen

01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:51.929
too. I... My first instinct is Liz because I

01:07:51.929 --> 01:07:54.690
would want to be friends with Liz the most, but

01:07:54.690 --> 01:07:58.489
I'm not cool enough to be friends with Liz. She

01:07:58.489 --> 01:08:01.750
would never be friends with me. I think she would.

01:08:02.570 --> 01:08:05.710
She would be nice to me, but I would never really

01:08:05.710 --> 01:08:07.929
be in her circle. You're trying to get double.

01:08:08.050 --> 01:08:12.250
You're trying to get her and Dolores because

01:08:12.250 --> 01:08:19.300
you'll be Dolores too. I know they wouldn't accept

01:08:19.300 --> 01:08:24.819
me. Oh. I'm just not cool enough for them. They

01:08:24.819 --> 01:08:27.800
shouldn't. I like to believe that they would

01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:29.619
accept us into their circle. They'd be like,

01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:33.579
we'll put you on probation and we'll see how

01:08:33.579 --> 01:08:35.699
this goes. I like to believe that they would

01:08:35.699 --> 01:08:39.720
do that for us. I believe that more for Joellen

01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:49.800
than for Liz. Sit with us. cam did you enjoy

01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:52.380
this podcast with us yeah this was really fun

01:08:52.380 --> 01:08:55.260
good you can come back anytime you want cam tell

01:08:55.260 --> 01:08:57.159
the besties where they can find you you can find

01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:01.020
me on tiktok for a for bravo and on instagram

01:09:01.020 --> 01:09:04.920
gay for bravo .ig because i couldn't get it without

01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:11.539
the ig on instagram we're gonna have to pay for

01:09:11.539 --> 01:09:19.560
that probably we'll all get there um from indy

01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:24.840
to california to rhode island we love you thank

01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:26.899
you for being here thank you for listening and

01:09:26.899 --> 01:09:29.340
cam you are welcome back anytime you were super

01:09:29.340 --> 01:09:31.840
fun to hang out with and we loved this