July 12, 2026

reality roundup: RHORI reunion (part 2) with Chantel & Andreas.

reality roundup: RHORI reunion (part 2) with Chantel & Andreas.
reality roundup: RHORI reunion (part 2) with Chantel & Andreas.
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reality roundup: RHORI reunion (part 2) with Chantel & Andreas.
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The Real Housewives of Rhode Island delivered one of the strongest first seasons in Housewives history and the second half of the reunion gave us enough receipts, questionable timelines, and terrible husband behavior to keep us talking long after the Dirty Shirleys were poured.

Our returning champion, Chantel, is back with her best friend Andreas to unpack it all.

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WEBVTT

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I'm Travis and Emma will be here in a little

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bit but this is Bestie Approved and I'm here

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with our returning champion Chantel and her best

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friend Andreas Mr. Potomac and I am so excited

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to get into the Real Housewives of Rhode Island

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season reunion uh or season one reunion and this

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is like I've said it before. It's been the best

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season of Housewives that we've got for a premiere

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season ever. But we'll get into it. I'm very

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excited about this. Chantel, you're the returning

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champion. I'm going to let Andreas introduce

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himself, and then we'll jump in. Hey, guys. This

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is Andreas. My family, we own Tally Ho Restaurant.

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I've been friends with Karen for about 30 -some

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years. Now, I'm kind of good friends with all

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of them now. I went to Bullis, which is a private

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school in Potomac. I grew up born and raised

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in Potomac. And my husband and I have a couple

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kids who just graduated. And life is crazy. and

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when he says i'm friends with all of them he's

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talking about the real housewives of potomac

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like they don't downplay that that's a big deal

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it's it's weird i've told people before that

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when oc started 20 years ago my husband and i

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are watching i'm gonna be like i'm gonna be on

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this show one day you know i'm gonna you know

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be friends with these girls and like how does

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it come into potomac who knows but potomac has

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been highlighted in many different ways which

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we can talk about sometime uh especially with

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connections to like the spelling family and um

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sex in this city and things like that There's

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a lot of connections with Tally Ho and its origin

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story. It's very interesting. I mean, my family,

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the restaurant people have been coming in, like

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we have the Kennedys, we have the Bushes, we

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have Supreme Court justices. We have, I mean,

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El Rey from Mike Tyson to Sylvester Stallone's

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father grew up, had a house around the corner.

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And so it's just, it's a lot, there's a lot of

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connections and we could probably do six degrees

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of Tally Ho one day. So that's why when Andres

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was coming up, I had him change his TikTok and

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IG name. I was like, it has to be Mr. Potomac.

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Like, you know everyone. Every time I talk to

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him, and sometimes it's funny, I'll be like,

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oh, do you know him? I don't know someone that

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he knows. I mean, it's just wild. It's a small

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world. It really is a small world. Even the guy

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who wore White Lotus, not the one from Survivor,

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the other guy, he actually went to school with

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me a couple years younger. Oh, cool. So if anybody

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out there wants to help me get my EGOT one day,

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let's work on that. What's the connection to

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Sex and the City? Darren Starr. So Darren Starr,

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who went to Churchill. My kids just graduated

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from there. Wrote Sex and the City. Wrote 90210.

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It was supposed to be 20854 Potomac, and they

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changed it because it didn't sound catchy. Yeah,

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so then the Peach Pit is... tally ho so that

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he used to come in there and that was his muse

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for the beach bit which is on the old nine i

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don't know how old you are you look really young

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so i don't know do you remember i remember shannon

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doherty um from charm yeah okay well her brother

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worked at a restaurant that was a beach bit and

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that was our restaurant nice um just out of curiosity

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how old do you think i am i love this game i

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love this game 33 i'll take it um i lie and tell

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people i'm 29 i'm 35 so i'll take it uh but okay

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so getting into it uh we kick every episode off

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like the chantelle's used to this at this point

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but uh what is the last song you listened to

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andreas uh the third song on the madonna new

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madonna soundtrack because i haven't listened

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to it all yet because i'm a horrible horrible

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gay um no you're not i so a couple things one

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what are your thoughts on like what you've heard

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thus far um I love dance music and I love Madonna

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and she can't do any wrong so probably a wrong

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person my husband he'll tell you he hates it

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is it because it's not like what she used to

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put out I don't know I don't know if he even

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likes her old music either. So for me, I mean,

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just like Lady Gaga, I mean, she sings Tony Bennett

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and I'm like, I love it. Right. And it doesn't

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matter what she does. I mean, I'm the same way

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about Kesha. And I was, I'll tell you, I was

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very nervous about the new Madonna album. Cause

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I was like, I liked the collab she did with Sabrina

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Carpenter a lot. I thought that was very, very

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good. And I was like. to me it screamed like

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i'm i'm desperately trying to hold on to something

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that i'm never gonna get back like that's what

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that's what i felt like and i i was wrong i i

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love the new baton album it's so good I was at

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Coachella when Madonna came out on stage. I was

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at Sabrina Carpenter's performance when Madonna

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came out at Coachella. And I remember taking

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my phone and going to my camera and zooming in

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because even though on the big screen, I still

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couldn't tell it was Madonna. I didn't recognize

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her. The work went a little bit left, I'm not

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going to lie. During COVID, the work did look...

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didn't look like her but like i think she's pulled

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it together a little bit i think she like she's

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it's calmed down we figured it out i i like i'm

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i'm excited for this new era of her i like it

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i'm excited too i mean it's gonna be playing

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in all the clubs it's gonna be playing it's gonna

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be a new generation of madonna fans and yeah

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that's why she's kind of passing it off to her

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daughter too i'm Excited to see where that goes,

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too, because I think that that's going to be

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a cool little dynasty moment. I think that's

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going to be really cool. Chantel, what about

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you? What's the last song you listened to? Okay,

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so we talked about this last time I was here,

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that I was going to make a Bravo Housewives,

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all Bravo Housewives song July 4th playlist.

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yeah so i did andreas hated it um but the last

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song i remember listening to was um gone with

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the wind fabulous by kenya moore god that was

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a good one right god andreas did not love he

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was not feeling it it was just the kim zolciak

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of it all you know i know i should have started

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with tardy for the party that kind of like blew

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the whole thing i think i should have started

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with something better i mean yeah did you not

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like tardy for the party andreas i liked it then

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it's just you know it's like we don't like hearing

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it anymore do you like macarena i mean no it's

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over let it go oh my god i i like there was a

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couple songs it was a melissa gorga song i was

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like wow this is nice and i was like she's like

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muslim gorg i was like what yeah so there was

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a song that i really liked let's i'm gonna be

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super real with you i don't know that that's

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actually melissa gorg does it matter does it

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even matter i'm like the ones that have like

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a good beat they're like you know have a good

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dance remix i'm like okay i can get down with

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that but i mean yeah they made us realize they

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made us realize that we can all be singers we

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can all be whatever we want pretty much yeah

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if you like it i love it if you want to sing

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i want you to sing babe yeah if nobody listens

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guess what who knows she's singing anyways yeah

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um so this is another i I feel like I fall into

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this bad habit of only listening to reality stars,

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but have you guys heard F .U. for that by Miranda

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from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives? I saw it was

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out, and I saw it on her IG, but I've not played

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it yet. But I've heard people are saying it's

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good. I'm telling you right now, it is... Miranda's

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the blonde? Yeah, Miranda's the blonde that was

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part of the swinging thing. She's part of the

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swinging scandal, yeah. it it is so good like

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i like i i've been playing it on replay like

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for like the last three days like i can't get

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enough of it it's so good and like here's the

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god's honest truth like i i hold like i like

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kesha is like i there she can do no wrong like

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she's like my kesha is your madonna andreas but

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like I hold these reality stars to a very different

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standard. Like the bar is much, much lower for

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them. I don't need them to come out and like

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be Kesha. I don't need them to come out and do

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anything other than exactly what they're doing

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right now. And like, that's exactly what Miranda

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did. And I, I love it. Like, I really, really

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love it. I can't wait to hear it. I mean, God,

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you have a snippet ready. I didn't prepare for

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it, but now I wish it's. so great and i like

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it's also talking a lot about her ex -husband

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chase who is admittedly like the most toxic man

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but he is my type of man and i i like that he

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gets a little shout out in that song so yeah

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he's all in the house he's all in their business

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anyway anyway um but this is not about the secret

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lives of mormon wives this is about a different

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set of wives uh across the country and we just

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wrapped up the second part of the reunion for

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the real housewives of rhode island um before

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we jump into anything what are your guys's thoughts

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on this season and like how this reunion went

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andreas you go oh okay i was trying to be nice

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and let you go before i start talking um i i

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loved it it was entertaining um i love joelle

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and even more now i want to be her best friend

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even though she's playing a part and she's basically

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telling her this is my job on this show if you

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guys want to keep this going i mean uh i don't

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know and she's gorgeous she's so gorgeous and

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i mean they're all pretty good except uh uh cindy

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lou who but we won't talk about that nose job

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yeah um but i and at first i want to get into

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that nose job in a minute though i i do want

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to talk about that please go ahead yeah i i just

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i i i love i can tell them all apart now that

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makes me happy and i do i do i like a lot of

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them in many different ways okay okay i like

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that i think it was a stellar first season for

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housewives no one was expecting it i don't think

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bravo was expecting how great it was the fan

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reaction would be to it um like i've been saying

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all season it's authentic it's because they're

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real friends they're relationships they know

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each other from childhood And when you have those

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connections, you get a real show versus I'm going

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to bring in my, you know, hairdresser's daughter's

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sister to be a friend of. And you just have coworker

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relationships. This is real. This is real life.

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I thought the reunion was great. Yeah. I can't

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wait to get into what happened. I couldn't agree

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more. I've said it before. I said it when we

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unpacked the season finale with Chantel. I think

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that this season was... I think this group of

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women... I think we've reached a point in Housewives

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where I think these women have watched enough

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Real Housewives that they're like, okay, we know

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what we need to bring to the table. It's very

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much like Salt Lake City where it's like, okay,

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we're showing up to work. We're going to... We're

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going to give the people what they want. And

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I want to be Joellen's best friend also. I will

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fight you for that, Andreas. If Joellen and Gary

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want to swing, by God, I will swing with both

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of them because I think her husband is the hottest

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husband we've seen on our TVs in a while. I don't

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remember him. You don't remember him? I don't

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remember. Why don't I remember? Gary? The one

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in the sauna? let me look that up while you finish

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talking so obnoxiously hot but um like but this

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group of women i i think they're like i don't

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ever want i think they're just self -aware enough

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i don't ever want them to become more self -aware

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than they are right now like it's so good and

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i do want to talk about the nose job because

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i i'm not shy about the fact i'm i'm like bronwyn

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in salt lake city i'm also on my third nose like

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i've had two nose jobs so like i'm i'm no stranger

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to going under the knife but like i don't number

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one i don't think rula needed to touch a thing

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about herself i thought she was beautiful i think

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that like i i don't think she needed to do anything

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i think that if the nose job was new enough like

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i think there's like some settling that's gonna

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happen i think that's gonna be she's gonna i

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mean she's still pretty no matter what my problem

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is is i wonder if she was doing it because of

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that trash husband of hers and like she's like

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oh i want to like i want to stay looking ugh

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like i just i like there's there's nothing about

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that situation that's ever gonna like be redeeming

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for that man and i'm gonna blame that nose job

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on that trash husband of hers yeah i mean she

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did make a comment like in the reunion where

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she said she's been wanting something she didn't

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want to do for a while and she finally decided

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just to you know go for it and and you know pull

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the trigger or whatever but i could totally see

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her feeling insecure about herself compared to

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the other woman But I don't think she should.

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And I think the nose is okay. But the tip, I

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just, we're just, I don't understand. We're just

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skiing. Just the tip. It's okay. I don't get

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it. It just doesn't look, oh, it just. It's funny.

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I thought she was Greek because her name was

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Rula. Because my mom's nickname is Yula. My aunt's

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name is Sula. And we have a Fula, like so on

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and so on. I was like, she's got to be Greek.

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right and she reminded me of one of my family

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members and then uh yeah then she went and did

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that in the nose job and i was like oh god i

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will tell you that like those editors did her

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dirty too when she like when you got the side

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profile of her face and it was just like it was

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like that they did yeah they totally did they

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were yeah yeah yeah 100 but um okay so this reunion

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i'm gonna and i'm andreas i've already told chantelle

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this and i feel genuinely guilty about this i

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didn't realize that i had not watched this part

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of the reunion until i was like on my way home

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from work today so i like threw it on in the

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car so my notes are scarce so i feel like chantelle's

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incredible note -taking is gonna carry us for

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a lot of this but i took i took some notes and

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obviously we pick up where we left off with joellen

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and rula screaming at each other and i will tell

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you i was excited to see this side of rula come

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out where she's like you're a like i like because

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i was like this is what we've been waiting for

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like this is why we watch housewives and i just

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i hate that it was directed at joelle in a way

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that it's like I see what Joellen was trying

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to do. I see that Joellen, like, needed to, A,

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prove that she's not a liar, and B, like, it's

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like, if we can unite over anything, we can unite

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over hating a trash man. And I hate that, like,

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Joellen took it as far as she did, and Rula just

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could not handle that. So, like, I hate that,

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like, this is what we're fighting about, but

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I like that we got to see this side of Rula come

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out. yeah yeah yeah i heard that she was activated

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you know yeah this was all like a year ago and

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it was all finished and that's why all this stuff

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was old uh old stuff that she found out recently

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and that's why uh joe ellen started bringing

00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.539
it up again she thought it was new stuff but

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it all been already taken care of by the two

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of them so we do get into this a little bit later

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in the reunion like i mean i feel like rula has

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been sold a completely false bill of goods if

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i'm being a thousand percent honest with you

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i i because like you can see on her face on several

00:16:54.899 --> 00:16:58.720
occasions where like she's talking like i mean

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when they when they get into like the the um

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liz and dino situation where i guess like brian

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had like called uh oh right to say that they

00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:10.769
saw liz dancing with that guy yeah yeah right

00:17:10.769 --> 00:17:13.029
yeah yeah and Rula turned around she's like what

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are you talking about like she was she thought

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she was absolved because she wasn't involved

00:17:16.289 --> 00:17:20.109
she didn't know Brian was involved yeah and I

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think Brian has lied to her every step of the

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way and it like even when they're talking about

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like when Brian had gotten divorced I wholeheartedly

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believe that Rula just took what Brian said at

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face value because I think yeah they fell in

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love whatever and like you just this is what

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you do when you're in love is like you don't

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you don't go digging into like when did she get

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divorced like what's the date and everything

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I I you can tell that there's a certain point

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when she when she like kind of gives up she's

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like I don't know if I know the answer to some

00:17:48.700 --> 00:17:49.980
of these questions and she's like why don't you

00:17:49.980 --> 00:17:52.059
just ask Brian when he comes out like I was like

00:17:52.059 --> 00:17:54.279
I feel bad for this woman because I know she's

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smarter than this I know she's better than this

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this sucks I don't think she has the confidence.

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She doesn't have the confidence. Yeah. No confidence.

00:18:03.660 --> 00:18:06.240
Like, it's frustrating when, like, you have someone

00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:08.019
that's super smart and intelligent. She's a financial

00:18:08.019 --> 00:18:10.039
advisor. She knows money. She can help Alicia

00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:12.460
get her, you know, all her stuff together. But

00:18:12.460 --> 00:18:14.740
when it comes to love, she's just, like, blinders

00:18:14.740 --> 00:18:18.359
on. And it's just... Can't have everything. Why

00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:21.900
not? I don't know if it's a lack of, I think

00:18:21.900 --> 00:18:23.859
it became a lack of confidence. What I do think

00:18:23.859 --> 00:18:26.380
is, like, I look, so Emma and I come from the

00:18:26.380 --> 00:18:28.519
financial world. Like, she owns her own financial

00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:31.819
planning firm. Like, you have to be smart to,

00:18:31.859 --> 00:18:33.599
like, be successful at what she's doing. And

00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:35.980
Ruella is very clearly successful. Like, you

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can tell she is very confident in a lot of areas

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of her life. And I think this, like, she took

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a hit to her confidence here. And I think, like,

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I think you're 100 % right. Like, what we're

00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:49.049
seeing is the result of, like, her. almost losing

00:18:49.049 --> 00:18:51.549
her footing a little bit, and, like, that confidence

00:18:51.549 --> 00:18:54.490
can't show up there, and that sucks. That really

00:18:54.490 --> 00:19:00.309
sucks. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely feel bad, but

00:19:00.309 --> 00:19:05.950
I think she can 100 % do better as in sticking

00:19:05.950 --> 00:19:08.589
up for herself. I think she can do better in

00:19:08.589 --> 00:19:11.329
marriage. I think she can do better. Whatever.

00:19:11.829 --> 00:19:14.990
Yeah. Like, I think she can do better in every

00:19:14.990 --> 00:19:19.670
sense of the idea, and I think that i hope that

00:19:19.670 --> 00:19:22.690
when we get into season two i hope that we see

00:19:22.690 --> 00:19:28.109
her without that trash husband so if not that'll

00:19:28.109 --> 00:19:32.309
be the storyline again oh for sure we can hope

00:19:32.309 --> 00:19:38.009
and pray yeah um also so we get back into this

00:19:38.009 --> 00:19:42.029
whole thing and like i i feel like i've flipped

00:19:42.029 --> 00:19:44.829
on a lot like on a lot of these situations like

00:19:44.829 --> 00:19:47.180
with who's fighting with who but like but the

00:19:47.180 --> 00:19:49.460
kelsey and rosie thing where they're fighting

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with each other about like the size of the house

00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:55.660
right i was on kelsey's side the entire time

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like with the slam pig fight with like with all

00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:00.779
of it i was on kelsey's side 100 and then we

00:20:00.779 --> 00:20:05.539
get to the reunion and when she brings up, well,

00:20:05.579 --> 00:20:07.140
I know you have two mortgages on your house.

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I was like, you can't stop picking at Rosie.

00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:13.240
You physically cannot stop it. And now I get

00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:15.759
why Rosie was so mad at you. And like, I hate

00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:17.400
that because I'm just like, if you would have

00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:19.160
dropped it, you would have come out looking like

00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:22.619
the golden child. Like I, you just can't leave

00:20:22.619 --> 00:20:27.359
well enough alone. I mean, she, she, I mean,

00:20:27.380 --> 00:20:30.599
she shared a husband or boyfriend for so long.

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Right. I'm talking about the right one. Right.

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What she did was ridiculous. If anybody came

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into my neighborhood acting like a fool like

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that, I would be pissed. You know what I mean?

00:20:43.009 --> 00:20:45.990
Respect my neighbors. I'd be pissed. Absolutely.

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Okay. Note to self. Maybe, maybe, I don't know.

00:20:50.750 --> 00:20:53.109
Maybe it's a uppity, you know, Potomac thing.

00:20:53.170 --> 00:20:55.970
I don't know, but I don't know. I couldn't see

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it. I could not see someone doing that around

00:20:57.890 --> 00:21:01.029
here. No, I mean, no, absolutely. It's just respect.

00:21:01.210 --> 00:21:03.049
And she, she didn't respect her when she walked

00:21:03.049 --> 00:21:05.450
in the door and they already, there's obviously

00:21:05.450 --> 00:21:07.329
a lot of baggage in the past, which we don't

00:21:07.329 --> 00:21:12.730
know about yet. Sure. I, I took that whole thing

00:21:12.730 --> 00:21:14.930
that like went down. Like I was like, oh, it's

00:21:14.930 --> 00:21:16.789
a joke that went a little too far. And it's a

00:21:16.789 --> 00:21:20.329
joke that like she, she being Kelsey thought

00:21:20.329 --> 00:21:22.329
they were in a place where they just weren't

00:21:22.329 --> 00:21:24.130
there yet. And like, she thought she could joke

00:21:24.130 --> 00:21:26.710
around. Cause I was like. I don't know that I

00:21:26.710 --> 00:21:30.029
would have cared that much, but maybe I just

00:21:30.029 --> 00:21:31.529
don't care about things the way other people

00:21:31.529 --> 00:21:37.089
do. But knowing everything we know now and knowing

00:21:37.089 --> 00:21:41.630
that Kelsey did just pick and pick and pick and

00:21:41.630 --> 00:21:45.069
pick and pick, maybe Rosie was a little more

00:21:45.069 --> 00:21:49.029
justified in the slam pig fight than I initially

00:21:49.029 --> 00:21:52.730
thought. Yeah, I mean, just the fact that Kelsey

00:21:52.730 --> 00:21:55.069
didn't know that you can have two mortgages on

00:21:55.069 --> 00:21:56.910
a home, like, one's a construction loan. Like,

00:21:56.910 --> 00:21:58.269
Rosie was trying to explain to her, like, this

00:21:58.269 --> 00:22:00.750
is, and then Bruno was like, this is normal course

00:22:00.750 --> 00:22:02.230
of business. So, like, what are you trying to

00:22:02.230 --> 00:22:05.470
imply? Oh, well, she didn't buy her house outright.

00:22:05.650 --> 00:22:09.490
No one does that. I am so real with you. Like,

00:22:09.650 --> 00:22:11.549
I agree with you, Travis. Like, she was, like,

00:22:11.569 --> 00:22:15.380
on a path of, like, maybe some redemption. And

00:22:15.380 --> 00:22:17.140
then she still comes out with that line. It was

00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:19.240
so embarrassing to her, and I felt really bad

00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:21.099
for her, but also I felt vindicated for Rosie,

00:22:21.299 --> 00:22:24.319
because Rosie was like, yeah, she's just obsessed

00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:26.299
with me. Like, she can't stop finding something

00:22:26.299 --> 00:22:29.299
to pick on. So I felt Rosie was justified, too,

00:22:29.380 --> 00:22:31.119
with the whole slam pig, get out of my house,

00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:33.740
the whole thing. Yeah. And I also feel like she

00:22:33.740 --> 00:22:37.279
was justified. I mean, she did her cutesy little,

00:22:37.380 --> 00:22:40.119
like, I'm going to pull a, oh, my God, who's

00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:42.039
the one that showed up with the binder in Potomac?

00:22:43.220 --> 00:22:45.859
Monique. Monique. Monique, yes, thank you. She

00:22:45.859 --> 00:22:47.259
was going to pull a Monique and she was going

00:22:47.259 --> 00:22:49.180
to have her little briefcase. I can't believe

00:22:49.180 --> 00:22:50.640
she didn't bring it. Why didn't she bring it

00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:55.119
out with her and have it behind the sofa? Like,

00:22:55.140 --> 00:22:57.500
why did she leave it in the gloomy? Because I

00:22:57.500 --> 00:22:59.440
would have loved to have her gone through some

00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:02.579
of that and just had a little small segment of

00:23:02.579 --> 00:23:04.299
her showing, you know, her proof of whatever.

00:23:05.070 --> 00:23:07.470
i'd like to show you my binder one day actually

00:23:07.470 --> 00:23:11.609
i'm keeping you know just in case somebody uh

00:23:11.609 --> 00:23:13.609
doesn't stand in line you know you have to have

00:23:13.609 --> 00:23:15.190
a little right you have to have the receipts

00:23:15.190 --> 00:23:18.230
like i feel like if she would have pulled that

00:23:18.230 --> 00:23:20.089
out and like been like here i have all of this

00:23:20.089 --> 00:23:22.809
stuff to show you i think she would have been

00:23:22.809 --> 00:23:25.930
completely justified in that like because i don't

00:23:25.930 --> 00:23:28.789
uh that was just and i also i want to go on record

00:23:28.789 --> 00:23:31.990
and say i am sick and tired of This trope on

00:23:31.990 --> 00:23:35.529
housewives of who rents, who owns, who has a

00:23:35.529 --> 00:23:37.369
mortgage on their house, who doesn't. I'm over

00:23:37.369 --> 00:23:40.369
it. I'm tired of it. It's 2026. The economy is

00:23:40.369 --> 00:23:43.710
trash. And I know we watch these shows for aspirational

00:23:43.710 --> 00:23:49.109
women and unimaginable levels of wealth. I am

00:23:49.109 --> 00:23:51.670
so sick and tired of people fighting about who's

00:23:51.670 --> 00:23:53.410
renting and who's got a mortgage on their house.

00:23:53.470 --> 00:23:55.730
I don't want to hear it anymore. I'm sorry. Bravo.

00:23:56.089 --> 00:23:59.609
Please cut that out. Okay, the only thing I do

00:23:59.609 --> 00:24:02.150
want to hear is whose house is going into foreclosure.

00:24:02.369 --> 00:24:04.210
So keep me posted on that. That's different.

00:24:05.190 --> 00:24:09.150
But yeah, I mean, if they can't afford to rent

00:24:09.150 --> 00:24:11.849
a beautiful house, I want to see it. I don't

00:24:11.849 --> 00:24:13.130
care how they're paying for it. It's none of

00:24:13.130 --> 00:24:16.750
my business. Well, it's kind of smart because

00:24:16.750 --> 00:24:19.670
I'll throw, I mean, Karen rents her home and

00:24:19.670 --> 00:24:22.529
it's tax deductible. I mean, I'm not sure that's

00:24:22.529 --> 00:24:25.789
the way she's doing it, but I mean, it's smart.

00:24:26.220 --> 00:24:28.099
you live in an amazing house it's basically a

00:24:28.099 --> 00:24:30.779
prop for you know and you're you can live in

00:24:30.779 --> 00:24:33.720
this place it's basically free because you just

00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:39.000
ducks from other things and uh but i mean sometimes

00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:43.319
rents away sometimes just sometimes here's the

00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:46.180
god's honest truth i'm now that's that's but

00:24:46.180 --> 00:24:48.740
that's the that's the uh oh my god if you you

00:24:48.740 --> 00:24:50.299
have to come to potomac one day and i'll take

00:24:50.299 --> 00:24:52.319
you around it's i'll go to potomac i don't care

00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:53.960
yeah like emma and i were talking about it i

00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:56.349
was like let's go to potomac I was like, you

00:24:56.349 --> 00:24:57.869
guys have to come to Tally Ho. We'll have a whole

00:24:57.869 --> 00:25:01.130
big thing. We can do another podcast there if

00:25:01.130 --> 00:25:07.349
you'd like. Oh yeah, let's do it. But yeah, I'm

00:25:07.349 --> 00:25:09.390
tired of that trope. I'm tired of that fight.

00:25:09.569 --> 00:25:13.230
And I swear to God. We have real things going

00:25:13.230 --> 00:25:16.430
on in these women's lives, like the size of their

00:25:16.430 --> 00:25:18.990
house, what they're renting. Like, that's a weird

00:25:18.990 --> 00:25:22.069
fight to have. So that's I'm I hope that this

00:25:22.069 --> 00:25:24.470
chapter is closed there. Well, that's that's

00:25:24.470 --> 00:25:26.029
what it started. That's how it started, though.

00:25:26.069 --> 00:25:29.710
Originally was the big houses, the wealthy. I

00:25:29.710 --> 00:25:32.509
mean, and we've seen so many crumble, which I

00:25:32.509 --> 00:25:34.630
totally agree with you. It doesn't matter what

00:25:34.630 --> 00:25:38.230
they have. We're in these people's lives to just

00:25:38.230 --> 00:25:42.970
to just know them better. and uh see where things

00:25:42.970 --> 00:25:46.809
go so it's not about what they have was it there's

00:25:46.809 --> 00:25:50.349
they did a like for the 100th episode of the

00:25:50.349 --> 00:25:53.269
real housewives of orange county the the oh my

00:25:53.269 --> 00:25:55.450
god it was it was lynn curtain i don't remember

00:25:55.450 --> 00:25:57.410
who it was but it was one of the original housewives

00:25:57.410 --> 00:26:00.910
in orange county who talks about like how like

00:26:00.910 --> 00:26:03.130
you know the opening shot of like that gate like

00:26:03.130 --> 00:26:05.650
opening that's that's her gate like in front

00:26:05.650 --> 00:26:08.369
of her house and it's the it's the one that got

00:26:08.369 --> 00:26:11.640
foreclosed on like that got surf papers on the

00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:17.819
show and i'm just like it we all know like on

00:26:17.819 --> 00:26:20.740
some level none of this is like reality like

00:26:20.740 --> 00:26:22.859
you have to suspend disbelief for like parts

00:26:22.859 --> 00:26:25.119
of this like but the house is like what they're

00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.599
willing to film like i don't care about any of

00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:29.920
that like we fall in love with the woman we don't

00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:31.440
fall in love with the house like the house is

00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:33.779
cool like villa villa blanca or villa rosa whatever

00:26:33.779 --> 00:26:36.700
it was for lisa vanderpump yeah that was incredible

00:26:36.700 --> 00:26:39.650
but like That's the exception to the rule. Eric

00:26:39.650 --> 00:26:43.730
Jane lives in her little casita in the outskirts

00:26:43.730 --> 00:26:46.210
of Beverly Hills. And I think that's cool. Beautiful.

00:26:46.769 --> 00:26:49.809
I'll take it. That could be me. Celebrities.

00:26:49.809 --> 00:26:54.750
They're just like us. Yeah. All right. So they

00:26:54.750 --> 00:27:00.150
let that go. I did love when. uh rosie gets up

00:27:00.150 --> 00:27:01.910
to go get her little briefcase and andy's like

00:27:01.910 --> 00:27:08.230
no no sit down sit down andy is so over it like

00:27:08.230 --> 00:27:12.349
i we talked about uh with um uh lauren from conspiracy

00:27:12.349 --> 00:27:14.410
reality we did part one of the reunion with her

00:27:14.410 --> 00:27:17.839
and we talked about like how andy was like we're

00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:19.480
going to take a five minute break. And then Rula

00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:21.799
brings up like, oh, I have, I have proof from

00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.359
something. And then Andy was like, yeah, we're

00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.000
taking a five minute break, babe. Right. Yeah.

00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:29.279
He was like, I don't want to hear this. And then

00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.039
just remember that there's one part where the

00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:32.440
produce, where she kept talking and the producers

00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:34.359
were like, can we save this for back for when

00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:35.900
we start filming again? Because she was trying

00:27:35.900 --> 00:27:39.319
to have the whole thing off camera. Yes. And

00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:44.700
like, so we closed that door a little bit. And

00:27:44.700 --> 00:27:47.180
then we move on to, I feel like this took up

00:27:47.180 --> 00:27:49.460
the bulk of the rest of the reunion. We talked,

00:27:49.460 --> 00:27:51.240
we talked to Ashley for a little bit and like,

00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:55.619
I feel like, I like Ashley. Like, let me just

00:27:55.619 --> 00:27:57.619
say, I'll go on record. I really like Ashley.

00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:01.279
She was not a starring role in this season. I

00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:03.180
feel like every show you're like, wait, Ashley,

00:28:03.339 --> 00:28:05.279
you have to think about it for a second. Yeah.

00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:07.579
Yeah. I do kind of, I do kind of forget she's

00:28:07.579 --> 00:28:11.339
there, but you still, but you also need that

00:28:11.339 --> 00:28:13.799
type of housewife too, to balance out a cast.

00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.920
i agree very sweet oh very very sweet like i

00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:20.579
think i could be very good friends with her and

00:28:20.579 --> 00:28:22.380
i think it would be a real friendship i think

00:28:22.380 --> 00:28:24.819
that she seems like one of the most genuine people

00:28:24.819 --> 00:28:27.460
on that cast like what you see is exactly what

00:28:27.460 --> 00:28:29.339
you get like her and joelle and i feel that way

00:28:29.339 --> 00:28:34.420
about not liz but not liz i think that's exactly

00:28:34.420 --> 00:28:40.840
who liz is i mean take it or leave it so I'm

00:28:40.840 --> 00:28:43.119
conflicted about Liz. I think Liz is so cool.

00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:48.779
There's something so badass about her. I don't

00:28:48.779 --> 00:28:52.119
like that. Yeah, it's like, I love that. I love

00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.740
that so much. And I would love to be best friends

00:28:54.740 --> 00:28:56.559
with Liz also. Let me just go on record and say

00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.619
that. But like, I, it's like, I think my issue

00:29:00.619 --> 00:29:02.460
with her is like, it feels like when the camera

00:29:02.460 --> 00:29:04.740
gets a little too close, when it's like, when

00:29:04.740 --> 00:29:07.140
stuff gets a little too real, that's where she's

00:29:07.140 --> 00:29:09.069
like, no, no, no, no, no. and that's like where

00:29:09.069 --> 00:29:10.609
it all like where the wheels fall off a little

00:29:10.609 --> 00:29:13.109
bit like with with the the fight that she had

00:29:13.109 --> 00:29:15.210
in the first couple episodes with kelsey with

00:29:15.210 --> 00:29:18.670
um the thing about i mean like and she's she's

00:29:18.670 --> 00:29:20.490
not coming back to the show and that sucks because

00:29:20.490 --> 00:29:25.329
i think that she was good tv absolutely i mean

00:29:29.049 --> 00:29:32.009
Sorry. No, no, no, please. I mean, I'm not going

00:29:32.009 --> 00:29:34.430
to miss Liz. I mean, I'm fine. I mean, I liked

00:29:34.430 --> 00:29:37.829
her at the beginning, but then those last few

00:29:37.829 --> 00:29:40.809
episodes where she was so unhinged, I just, I

00:29:40.809 --> 00:29:44.970
felt like, is that her real personality? Like,

00:29:44.990 --> 00:29:49.009
to be that malicious and mean? Because if you

00:29:49.009 --> 00:29:51.309
can say that to someone, then, like, that's within

00:29:51.309 --> 00:29:53.789
you somewhere deep inside. You have that to come

00:29:53.789 --> 00:29:57.390
out, you know? So I just... I don't want to see,

00:29:57.509 --> 00:30:02.450
like, angry housewife lady on my TV. That's fair.

00:30:02.470 --> 00:30:04.450
That's very fair. Like, I want some anger. I

00:30:04.450 --> 00:30:06.630
want some fighting. I want some, you know, you're

00:30:06.630 --> 00:30:09.150
trash. She needs a lot of therapy, though. I

00:30:09.150 --> 00:30:11.970
mean, I can see a lot of, like... There's a lot

00:30:11.970 --> 00:30:14.130
of stuff going on there. There's pain there.

00:30:14.490 --> 00:30:17.150
Yes. It's so bad, and that's why she shuts down.

00:30:17.630 --> 00:30:22.250
Yes. I'm not going to speculate, but... No, but

00:30:22.250 --> 00:30:24.670
like I I recognize a lot in her like this stuff

00:30:24.670 --> 00:30:26.750
that like I mean I've seen it my own family where

00:30:26.750 --> 00:30:28.869
it's like it's You have stuff from your childhood

00:30:28.869 --> 00:30:30.690
that you don't deal with and then it's like the

00:30:30.690 --> 00:30:32.829
wheels just fall off one day and it sucks It

00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:35.769
really sucks. But the God's honest truth is like

00:30:35.769 --> 00:30:38.569
that and I know that this is not a super popular

00:30:38.569 --> 00:30:41.599
opinion, but that the the iteration of liz where

00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:43.940
she's out with joellen and they're fighting she's

00:30:43.940 --> 00:30:47.700
like okay god agreed got it got it joellen i

00:30:47.700 --> 00:30:50.839
loved that i couldn't get enough of that i thought

00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.940
it was like that is gold because i was like this

00:30:53.940 --> 00:30:56.819
is like this woman's not putting up with it like

00:30:56.819 --> 00:30:59.900
and i was like i like this and like if we it's

00:30:59.900 --> 00:31:02.099
like we almost it's like where you're almost

00:31:02.099 --> 00:31:05.980
going a little too far but like yeah if you could

00:31:05.980 --> 00:31:09.859
stay in that lane that lane is a little tense

00:31:09.859 --> 00:31:12.339
but it's entertaining but then you take it to

00:31:12.339 --> 00:31:13.920
that next level where you're just being mean

00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.720
to be mean i just don't i don't like that like

00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:19.819
i saw i saw joe allen and liz the way they were

00:31:19.819 --> 00:31:22.059
fighting it was like me and my husband because

00:31:22.059 --> 00:31:23.680
my husband just shuts down doesn't want to talk

00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:25.740
and i'm like talk talk i need to talk talk now

00:31:25.740 --> 00:31:30.579
she kept on saying i and she needed just to have

00:31:30.579 --> 00:31:32.440
some kind of and i'm like they just need a little

00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:35.000
like just wink at me and tell me we're okay and

00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.319
then i'll leave it alone but you she couldn't

00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.839
i also feel like joellen was looking at that

00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.359
friendship as a genuine friendship and i think

00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.660
i i think a lot of these women for better or

00:31:46.660 --> 00:31:49.559
worse can compartmentalize like this is my tv

00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:51.519
friendship and like i have friendships with these

00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:54.240
women but like i don't let the tv into that i

00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.240
think liz was doing that in that moment because

00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:57.619
she was like i don't know what you're talking

00:31:57.619 --> 00:31:59.079
about we're not friends like that and i think

00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.640
liz or i think joellen genuinely thought liz

00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:03.700
was one of her best friends and i think that

00:32:03.700 --> 00:32:06.880
like that was probably heartbreaking to joelle

00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.160
and to hear like i don't feel that way but like

00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:11.039
i don't know that that liz didn't actually feel

00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.039
that way i don't know i don't know but it was

00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:15.819
more than the show was before this they were

00:32:15.819 --> 00:32:19.200
friends right yeah i mean yeah so i don't i don't

00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:21.599
i don't get it if you're going on to this i'm

00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:23.839
sure they got even closer like when they were

00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:25.720
about to go on to this and then they were touring

00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:28.740
like you must get you must get close yeah so

00:32:28.740 --> 00:32:32.319
i don't know i don't know um but then i feel

00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:35.599
i feel like the we move into what kind of takes

00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:40.480
up the rest of the episode is the situation with

00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:44.400
rula and i'll just i just say what i i wrote

00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:45.980
here i genuinely feel bad for really because

00:32:45.980 --> 00:32:48.759
i feel like she has been lied to every step of

00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:51.099
the way and she has no idea what she hasn't been

00:32:51.099 --> 00:32:53.000
lied to about what she has been lied to about

00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.990
and I and this is again where I start to I flipped

00:32:56.990 --> 00:32:59.109
a little bit because this entire season I was

00:32:59.109 --> 00:33:02.970
on Joellen's side and I think in the finale was

00:33:02.970 --> 00:33:05.470
in the finale or like in the leading up to the

00:33:05.470 --> 00:33:08.569
finale Joe or Rula said to Joellen hey I like

00:33:08.569 --> 00:33:12.109
the way you brought this to me I wasn't in a

00:33:12.109 --> 00:33:14.569
place to hear it so like I think Joellen should

00:33:14.569 --> 00:33:18.750
have taken that been like okay I've done what

00:33:18.750 --> 00:33:22.180
I need to do and I'm gonna i've i'm not a liar

00:33:22.180 --> 00:33:24.779
and like america knows that everyone knows that

00:33:24.779 --> 00:33:29.440
i i feel bad for ruler here because i'm just

00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.759
like god like this woman is in pain and she has

00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.039
been lied to and you have someone who i think

00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.180
genuinely wants to expose this trash husband

00:33:39.180 --> 00:33:44.119
of hers and will not stop isn't this what happens

00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.480
in season two like i think it was jersey and

00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.380
then like season two was like the blow up of

00:33:50.380 --> 00:33:54.559
the family um i forget which other one uh i guess

00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:57.519
season three of salt lake was the arrest like

00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.640
there was always something big that happens like

00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.700
after somebody's husband does something like

00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:04.660
this i thought it was really sweet that all the

00:34:04.660 --> 00:34:08.340
guys were like dude you did it we all know you

00:34:08.340 --> 00:34:10.679
did it just tell her everything so we can be

00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.380
all out i was like good job guys that was good

00:34:13.380 --> 00:34:16.179
i have to tell you that's I felt the same way

00:34:16.179 --> 00:34:18.400
about Gary when they were all at Rock Island

00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.420
and he was like hey you're gonna stop calling

00:34:20.420 --> 00:34:22.480
my wife a liar number one but number two like

00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.360
you're doing whatever you're doing I don't care

00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:25.800
what you're doing it's none of my business like

00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.099
I like that there was like we can all just be

00:34:28.099 --> 00:34:30.059
honest about it and be grown -ups about it I

00:34:30.059 --> 00:34:34.139
yeah this is so refreshing but like Brian does

00:34:34.139 --> 00:34:36.599
not have that capacity because he's a trash man

00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:41.639
and I will die on this hill I hate Brian I hate

00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:44.960
him I I'm not I know like I know like three or

00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:49.320
four bryans don't worry it's sad you feel bad

00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.800
you feel bad for the for the wife really bad

00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.519
and and he was just out there enjoying himself

00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.039
and she was sitting at home sorry go ahead yeah

00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.599
um hold on i had something hold on let me pull

00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:02.139
my nose really quick so i had some a point that

00:35:02.139 --> 00:35:06.500
i wanted to make um okay so just going back a

00:35:06.500 --> 00:35:12.079
little bit before um before the guys come out,

00:35:12.340 --> 00:35:15.579
Andy asks Rula, like, how are you and Brian doing?

00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:19.739
And she's like, it's day by day. And there was

00:35:19.739 --> 00:35:23.300
this whole conversation about, Andy asked the

00:35:23.300 --> 00:35:26.619
women, that time when Rula didn't come to the

00:35:26.619 --> 00:35:30.159
Newport house, was she sick? They won't believe

00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:31.400
she was sick and they're raising their hand.

00:35:32.059 --> 00:35:35.000
And I thought that the responses to that were

00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:38.750
interesting. I forget which one said, you know,

00:35:38.789 --> 00:35:42.590
someone did say it was more like a mental illness

00:35:42.590 --> 00:35:44.489
versus a physical. I think Alicia said that.

00:35:44.530 --> 00:35:48.989
Yeah. And I just kept thinking the fact that

00:35:48.989 --> 00:35:52.530
Rula, even though she does seem a little like

00:35:52.530 --> 00:35:55.050
she's lost in the sauce about what's going on

00:35:55.050 --> 00:35:58.309
with her and Brian, she's not dumb either. Because

00:35:58.309 --> 00:36:01.250
I think, in my opinion, she knew if she went

00:36:01.250 --> 00:36:02.730
to go to that Newport mansion for the weekend.

00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:05.619
Brian's going to be with the mistress. Like,

00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:09.219
she physically got ill thinking about the fact

00:36:09.219 --> 00:36:11.539
that if I do leave and go and I'm filming here,

00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:13.739
he's going to do what he's going to do. And she's

00:36:13.739 --> 00:36:16.320
far enough away. I mean, it's not that far, but

00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:20.059
she could get back easily. But I think she just

00:36:20.059 --> 00:36:23.699
knew that if she left, he's going to be with

00:36:23.699 --> 00:36:25.559
her and she couldn't deal with it. And she faked

00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:27.239
being sick. I don't think she was really sick.

00:36:27.699 --> 00:36:30.199
I never even thought about that. So here's the

00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:33.889
thing. I do believe she... did almost gaslight

00:36:33.889 --> 00:36:36.550
herself into being sick i wholeheartedly thought

00:36:36.550 --> 00:36:40.269
it was because she was like i thought this was

00:36:40.269 --> 00:36:44.170
over i and like at this point i i think she was

00:36:44.170 --> 00:36:46.070
still supposed to be a friend of like i don't

00:36:46.070 --> 00:36:48.050
because they didn't make her a full cast member

00:36:48.050 --> 00:36:52.130
until like very late in the season and i i feel

00:36:52.130 --> 00:36:54.809
like how did you know that sorry how did you

00:36:54.809 --> 00:36:57.170
know she wasn't made was it the beginning credits

00:36:57.170 --> 00:37:00.059
or no it was oh lord what was it well at first

00:37:00.059 --> 00:37:02.500
it was like she wasn't in the first two or three

00:37:02.500 --> 00:37:06.679
episodes and then like i feel like i heard the

00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.679
bravo docket mentioned this i like i've like

00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:10.739
it's been reported from like reliable sources

00:37:10.739 --> 00:37:12.880
that like she had originally signed on to be

00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.059
a friend of and then this storyline became such

00:37:15.059 --> 00:37:19.099
a major point that they just gave her like a

00:37:19.099 --> 00:37:21.619
clam or whatever the those housewives are holding

00:37:21.619 --> 00:37:25.380
but i mean that would make sense why we barely

00:37:25.380 --> 00:37:27.500
see her you know if she was supposed to be a

00:37:27.500 --> 00:37:32.780
friend of so but like i i um i feel like she

00:37:32.780 --> 00:37:36.130
was like i'm putting this on tv it's People are

00:37:36.130 --> 00:37:38.429
talking about it. Like, and like, I think she

00:37:38.429 --> 00:37:40.829
like fully, like it's, I think a lot of it was

00:37:40.829 --> 00:37:42.949
mental, but I think like she gaslit herself into

00:37:42.949 --> 00:37:44.750
being sick as a dog. And like, that's why there

00:37:44.750 --> 00:37:46.630
were no real symptoms. I wholeheartedly believe

00:37:46.630 --> 00:37:49.309
she thought she was sick. Yeah. Or symptoms,

00:37:49.369 --> 00:37:52.050
but there was no diagnosis because there wasn't

00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:54.070
anything happening. Yeah. I mean, I think, I

00:37:54.070 --> 00:37:55.750
think we all, I mean, I've made myself physically

00:37:55.750 --> 00:37:58.289
ill overthinking something like anxiety and making

00:37:58.289 --> 00:38:01.630
yourself physically sick. So I just. yeah that

00:38:01.630 --> 00:38:04.010
was just my impression was this like no even

00:38:04.010 --> 00:38:06.909
when i was watching that episode i was like she's

00:38:06.909 --> 00:38:11.789
she's oh i'm on my deathbed i'm like are you

00:38:11.789 --> 00:38:13.710
though or you just don't want to get another

00:38:13.710 --> 00:38:16.250
opportunity to cheat on you which she was like

00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:19.710
i could have died i could have yeah yeah yeah

00:38:19.710 --> 00:38:23.230
anybody could have she's so funny like i like

00:38:23.230 --> 00:38:25.349
she's very funny like in those in those little

00:38:25.349 --> 00:38:27.429
moments where she's like trying so hard i'm like

00:38:27.429 --> 00:38:30.130
you know what really you could have but no like

00:38:30.130 --> 00:38:32.809
i i never even thought about it being like a

00:38:32.809 --> 00:38:34.309
thing where it's like i can't let my husband

00:38:34.309 --> 00:38:39.050
go off and cheat with his like yeah but that's

00:38:39.050 --> 00:38:41.730
that's what i never even thought about that yeah

00:38:41.730 --> 00:38:47.420
but um And then they just go into the whole thing,

00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.219
just Rula and Joellen just fighting about her

00:38:51.219 --> 00:38:53.360
marriage date. And when did they get married?

00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:55.500
And when did she get pregnant with their child?

00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:57.820
And was it while they were still married? And

00:38:57.820 --> 00:39:01.199
I had to watch it a couple of times because I

00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:03.139
was like, I'm not even following the dates here.

00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:06.320
I'm like, what year is it now? I was like, you

00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.659
know, I was like 2011, 16, 13, 14, even Brian.

00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:12.760
Didn't even get the same answer. That's all the

00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.400
court documents that Joellen provided. Because

00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.099
here's the thing. If she said he was divorced

00:39:18.099 --> 00:39:21.619
in 2010 and then he said, yeah, my divorce is

00:39:21.619 --> 00:39:23.860
finalized in 2011. They didn't they didn't get

00:39:23.860 --> 00:39:26.940
married until 2016. Like that that that one year

00:39:26.940 --> 00:39:29.639
difference is completely irrelevant. There is

00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:31.880
a six year gap there at one point that we're

00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:34.199
talking about, though, that I this is where I

00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.059
come back to. I don't believe Brian was honest

00:39:37.059 --> 00:39:39.260
about her with, like, yeah, my divorce is finalized.

00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:43.079
I don't believe that he was forthright with any

00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:46.340
of it. And that's where I'm like, I believe Rula

00:39:46.340 --> 00:39:48.880
thought she was telling the truth. And, like,

00:39:48.900 --> 00:39:50.980
I'll buy that, like, yeah, maybe she got pregnant

00:39:50.980 --> 00:39:52.360
before they got married and it was a shotgun

00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.400
wedding. I don't care about that. That's fine.

00:39:54.659 --> 00:39:58.619
That's so irrelevant to me. But the rest of it,

00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:03.960
I'm like, that... has to be so hard and you're

00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:05.719
doing this on national tv you're doing this on

00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:07.820
a real housewives reunion you're doing this on

00:40:07.820 --> 00:40:10.139
one of the most popular franchises in existence

00:40:10.139 --> 00:40:13.860
and you're sitting here saying like you could

00:40:13.860 --> 00:40:16.820
tell where she was like i don't i don't know

00:40:16.820 --> 00:40:18.380
the date like you like because you could see

00:40:18.380 --> 00:40:20.059
like the wheels starting to fall off when she

00:40:20.059 --> 00:40:23.380
was like just asking the timeline seemed off

00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:27.380
yeah so did you catch this part this this so

00:40:27.380 --> 00:40:30.320
in that whole fight this other part got me where

00:40:31.019 --> 00:40:33.280
Rula was looking at Joellen and she was like,

00:40:33.420 --> 00:40:36.840
why are you going here? Why are you doing this?

00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.659
Why? Because she had an inkling of understanding

00:40:40.659 --> 00:40:42.719
and she knew that she knows there's something

00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:44.480
fishy with it. I think she knows something fishy.

00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:49.880
Maybe she was pregnant before. But she knew where

00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.820
she was trying to go. you get him you get him

00:40:53.820 --> 00:40:56.539
like you you the way you get him is the way you

00:40:56.539 --> 00:40:58.639
lose him i think that's what joe ellen's trying

00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:03.440
to get at right oh that's what i mean so he's

00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:05.280
cheating on you now he's gonna be with somebody

00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:06.920
else because he was with somebody else before

00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.019
you and he was cheating on her with you so i

00:41:10.019 --> 00:41:11.440
mean i think that's what the whole thing is is

00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.480
like he's the scumbag and let's find out the

00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:19.269
timeline and see who's right and wrong with joelle

00:41:19.269 --> 00:41:21.829
and i wholeheartedly think she was like i know

00:41:21.829 --> 00:41:23.590
the facts and i'm gonna go in with it and like

00:41:23.590 --> 00:41:25.190
and maybe there is some element of like yeah

00:41:25.190 --> 00:41:26.889
you get them how you lose them like maybe there

00:41:26.889 --> 00:41:28.730
is some element with that like that joelle that

00:41:28.730 --> 00:41:33.170
was the point that she was trying to make i for

00:41:33.170 --> 00:41:35.610
me i was like i wish rula just would have been

00:41:35.610 --> 00:41:38.750
like joelle and please like just i please like

00:41:38.750 --> 00:41:42.329
woman to woman stop like because i i think that

00:41:42.329 --> 00:41:44.230
rula was like going to a place where she was

00:41:44.230 --> 00:41:48.269
like you you know i don't know the answer i like

00:41:48.269 --> 00:41:50.369
i like i she can't bring herself to say that

00:41:50.369 --> 00:41:54.409
so it's just like oh like if if ruler could just

00:41:54.409 --> 00:41:58.989
say like if ruler could say it to joellen and

00:41:58.989 --> 00:42:01.510
joellen could hear it like just as on a human

00:42:01.510 --> 00:42:06.369
level of like i can't handle this i think i think

00:42:06.369 --> 00:42:08.190
that that would like heal them in a way that

00:42:08.190 --> 00:42:10.429
like i i think they both kind of need but like

00:42:10.429 --> 00:42:13.769
like this was that was tough to watch where she

00:42:13.769 --> 00:42:16.800
was like yeah where Rula was talking about 2013

00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:18.780
and Joan was like no he wasn't divorced until

00:42:18.780 --> 00:42:22.159
2016 and then it's like you start to play through

00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.980
like okay so on set like just in the background

00:42:24.980 --> 00:42:26.820
it's like okay so you know that there was a wedding

00:42:26.820 --> 00:42:28.900
you know that like they went to the the courthouse

00:42:28.900 --> 00:42:32.280
and like they had to do the whole thing did Rula

00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.800
like like I'm confused as to how that happened

00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:38.139
because you can't be married to two people at

00:42:38.139 --> 00:42:41.329
the same time so like how Right. How did the

00:42:41.329 --> 00:42:43.130
paperwork happen? Like, I'm curious about the

00:42:43.130 --> 00:42:47.349
logistics of that. Right. I'm curious if him

00:42:47.349 --> 00:42:49.610
and the ex, the Spanish teacher, filed for divorce

00:42:49.610 --> 00:42:55.829
and then just let it sit. And then he met Rula.

00:42:55.949 --> 00:42:58.030
Maybe she got pregnant. And then he was like,

00:42:58.150 --> 00:43:00.849
I want to marry this woman. Oh, crap. I never,

00:43:00.989 --> 00:43:03.349
you know, finished going through with the whole

00:43:03.349 --> 00:43:06.389
divorce. So maybe that's why there's a 2011 date

00:43:06.389 --> 00:43:08.880
and then a 16 date. i mean i don't know i didn't

00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:10.480
look into it because i'm not an fbi like joellen

00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:15.900
but um but i mean that's something that i was

00:43:15.900 --> 00:43:19.760
considering huh so don't be mean to my girl no

00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.920
i love joe i love joellen i just put out a video

00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.960
supporting joellen so well you know what i think

00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:28.860
rula is like i think she reminds me a lot of

00:43:28.860 --> 00:43:34.199
vicky that the lying the timelines the boyfriends

00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:38.659
like there was always it's just it was always

00:43:38.659 --> 00:43:41.880
her defending defending defending i just remember

00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.679
that a lot with vicky and i was like don't you

00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:46.760
ever compare her to that woman because i know

00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:51.099
no like when we do our orange county premiere

00:43:51.099 --> 00:43:52.719
with husbands watching housewives you're gonna

00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.320
find out just how i feel about her being back

00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:56.960
on that show because i do not want to see that

00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.960
woman on my tv again yeah i am i was just my

00:43:59.960 --> 00:44:02.000
wife i'm like it's coming out starting next week

00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.940
and i'm still looking forward to it because so

00:44:03.940 --> 00:44:07.059
many people do not want vicky back and i know

00:44:07.059 --> 00:44:09.619
she's going to be full vicky she's coming in

00:44:09.619 --> 00:44:11.840
hot i know she's going to come in hot and i just

00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:13.280
can't wait for the content i'm going to produce

00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.039
based on her just her being ridiculous it's her

00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:18.300
voice it's just her voice it's her voice and

00:44:18.300 --> 00:44:20.539
it's her with shannon i have to tell you her

00:44:20.539 --> 00:44:22.860
i know we're going off on a on a tangent here

00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:26.440
her and shannon together they aggravate me in

00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:30.369
a way that like i I don't know the last time

00:44:30.369 --> 00:44:33.869
I was that annoyed. Just the preview that we've

00:44:33.869 --> 00:44:35.630
seen of them on the beach in Puerto Vallarta.

00:44:36.469 --> 00:44:41.670
Yeah. Stay away from me. Stop. Just stop. I didn't

00:44:41.670 --> 00:44:45.650
consent to this. I've actually heard a lot of

00:44:45.650 --> 00:44:48.590
bad things about Shannon, meaning she's not nice.

00:44:48.849 --> 00:44:51.409
And throw Vicky in there. And I used to love

00:44:51.409 --> 00:44:52.829
Shannon. I was like, I want to be best friends

00:44:52.829 --> 00:44:55.630
with her. Then I was like, what happened? We

00:44:55.630 --> 00:44:59.170
met Vicky at BravoCon. Did you? How was she like

00:44:59.170 --> 00:45:01.630
right after? Right after she got the orange,

00:45:01.750 --> 00:45:03.630
yes. Yeah, right after she got the orange. She

00:45:03.630 --> 00:45:05.969
still had it with her. She was like, man, she

00:45:05.969 --> 00:45:07.909
wouldn't let it go. Yeah, she wouldn't let it

00:45:07.909 --> 00:45:11.070
go. Yeah. I mean, she was, I mean, so we knew

00:45:11.070 --> 00:45:12.849
Christian Gray Snow, so we kind of like, we saw

00:45:12.849 --> 00:45:14.489
him across the room and so we were like, hey.

00:45:15.010 --> 00:45:16.550
They were like, we did a picture with Vicky and

00:45:16.550 --> 00:45:18.610
so we made it happen. But she was very much like

00:45:18.610 --> 00:45:20.349
in the middle of doing stuff with other fans

00:45:20.349 --> 00:45:22.269
and like selling merch and was not into it at

00:45:22.269 --> 00:45:24.210
all. But we got the photo, so what are you going

00:45:24.210 --> 00:45:26.980
to do? She's also a little loopy. Oh, she's very

00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:29.219
loopy. She's very much... She's like Giselle

00:45:29.219 --> 00:45:32.320
to me, where she's very aloof. What? Giselle?

00:45:33.059 --> 00:45:36.980
Giselle plays a lot very, very well. Let me just

00:45:36.980 --> 00:45:40.099
tell you. She should be an actress. No, she's

00:45:40.099 --> 00:45:41.780
amazing. I'm going to tell you right now. Put

00:45:41.780 --> 00:45:44.159
this down in your book. When I come to Potomac,

00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.960
Giselle might be the only one I care about meeting.

00:45:48.179 --> 00:45:51.420
I worship the ground that woman walks on. I think

00:45:51.420 --> 00:45:56.099
she is... so great i i love her and like here's

00:45:56.099 --> 00:45:58.500
the thing i know she's done a lot of nasty stuff

00:45:58.500 --> 00:46:01.360
i i couldn't care less like it's she in my book

00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:03.360
like she's like on the same level in my mind

00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:08.119
it's like bethany frankl like yeah oh bethany

00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:12.320
frankl's my hero wait bethany frankl's your hero

00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:17.360
my hero really I will not apologize for it. I

00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:19.019
will not hear anything bad about it. People do

00:46:19.019 --> 00:46:23.039
nothing but tell me how misguided I am. Giselle,

00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:27.579
Bethany Frankel, Joellen. I loved Bethany Frankel.

00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.039
I loved her from when she was on Martha Stewart,

00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.159
The Apprentice. And she was phenomenal. She was

00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:36.059
phenomenal at first, like three or four. But

00:46:36.059 --> 00:46:38.760
she has so much. She needs to fix herself before

00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.679
she gets married, before she has kids. She's

00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:46.110
a mess. She's a mess. emotionally and mentally

00:46:46.110 --> 00:46:48.650
yes i i don't disagree i think there's a lot

00:46:48.650 --> 00:46:51.309
of stuff that she needs to work through i like

00:46:51.309 --> 00:46:55.010
that she didn't hide any of that on tv i think

00:46:55.010 --> 00:46:57.730
it was amazing and it helped a lot of other people

00:46:57.730 --> 00:46:59.710
that i know are who are in similar situations

00:46:59.710 --> 00:47:02.650
as her like it helped them like okay there's

00:47:02.650 --> 00:47:04.230
other people like me my you know i'm not that

00:47:04.230 --> 00:47:09.030
screwed up i mean yeah but no but yeah just put

00:47:09.030 --> 00:47:14.340
that in your book i want to be but anyway um

00:47:14.340 --> 00:47:19.760
so like I also wrote down Brian the entire time

00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:21.820
he was out on this stage looked like he had a

00:47:21.820 --> 00:47:24.159
gun held to his head like I have never seen anyone

00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.460
more nervous on TV like that man was like didn't

00:47:28.460 --> 00:47:30.119
it just happen that he was arrested or something

00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:37.179
so there was a lot I think that was before like

00:47:38.059 --> 00:47:40.920
Also, we talked about this, Chantel. They did

00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:43.019
talk about the tracker in the car. The tracker,

00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.179
yeah. Yes, and it turned out to be exactly what

00:47:46.179 --> 00:47:48.000
you thought it was, like the Find My App or whatever.

00:47:48.179 --> 00:47:50.460
Yeah, Find My Friend or whatever, yeah. Yeah.

00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:56.079
I don't know. Everything that Brian said, though,

00:47:56.099 --> 00:48:00.139
just was so annoying to me. I can't talk about

00:48:00.139 --> 00:48:02.400
it because it's litigation. I'm just like...

00:48:03.109 --> 00:48:05.829
why did you even show up like why did you leave

00:48:05.829 --> 00:48:07.929
like because you you had every opportunity to

00:48:07.929 --> 00:48:09.349
come and like clear your name you could say i'm

00:48:09.349 --> 00:48:10.449
going to be a better husband i'm going to be

00:48:10.449 --> 00:48:13.190
a better man but what he did and he did it in

00:48:13.190 --> 00:48:15.650
the way that like triggered me to know and where

00:48:15.650 --> 00:48:18.369
he was like well it gave us the opportunity for

00:48:18.369 --> 00:48:20.969
god to put us back together shut your whore mouth

00:48:20.969 --> 00:48:29.099
he's so gross Yeah, shut your whore mouth. Yeah,

00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:33.460
he's a whore. He's disgusting. He's a liar. I

00:48:33.460 --> 00:48:36.760
can't talk for legal reasons. What legal reasons?

00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:44.280
Yeah, I mean, he's gross, yeah. He could have

00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.019
really redeemed himself. Even Rosie was like,

00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:51.659
you just need to say when the affair ended so

00:48:51.659 --> 00:48:55.760
then Joellen can shut the hell up. You know what

00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:58.300
I'm saying? They all were just laying it out

00:48:58.300 --> 00:49:00.699
on the red carpet for him. They were like, just

00:49:00.699 --> 00:49:04.940
say this. Just say this. He can't give you a

00:49:04.940 --> 00:49:07.159
date because it's not over. So you can't give

00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.369
a date when it's not over. yes and then like

00:49:10.369 --> 00:49:13.269
and this is like when i think it was kelsey turned

00:49:13.269 --> 00:49:15.750
to joellen and said she didn't know what it ended

00:49:15.750 --> 00:49:17.829
that's why he won't say it like i was like oh

00:49:17.829 --> 00:49:19.769
that was that was a real kick in the balls for

00:49:19.769 --> 00:49:24.889
me like when like i was like it's like i don't

00:49:24.889 --> 00:49:26.510
know if he's trying to protect ruler or make

00:49:26.510 --> 00:49:28.429
her look like an idiot i can't figure out which

00:49:28.429 --> 00:49:33.719
one I think he is not smart enough to intentionally

00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:36.199
make her look like an idiot. I think he's just

00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.639
an idiot. And so everything he's doing is just

00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:42.179
bouncing off of her and making her also look

00:49:42.179 --> 00:49:44.619
like a fool because he's not honest about anything.

00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:51.530
Yeah. But what I will say... I appreciate to

00:49:51.530 --> 00:49:53.929
know, and I don't know if Joellen had this friend

00:49:53.929 --> 00:49:56.570
before she decided she wanted this information,

00:49:56.730 --> 00:49:59.250
but I love that she has a friend at Chanel that

00:49:59.250 --> 00:50:01.630
she made friends with, that she went as far as

00:50:01.630 --> 00:50:04.670
to go into his client record, find the receipt,

00:50:04.889 --> 00:50:07.250
find, like, connect it to the bag in the car.

00:50:07.409 --> 00:50:10.969
Like, I said, give this woman the Epstein files.

00:50:11.210 --> 00:50:13.789
Like, give her all of it. Like, she'll figure

00:50:13.789 --> 00:50:18.309
it out. She's not employed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:50:19.309 --> 00:50:22.769
And she's basically in the FBI now. Yes. And

00:50:22.769 --> 00:50:24.730
the way that she was like, is this your Chanel

00:50:24.730 --> 00:50:28.530
bag, Rula? And Rula was like, no. I know. That

00:50:28.530 --> 00:50:33.250
was devastating. That was like, oh. Poor thing.

00:50:33.969 --> 00:50:37.190
Poor thing. Yeah. And I literally, literally

00:50:37.190 --> 00:50:40.610
the next note is poor Rula. OMG. Like, it's a

00:50:40.610 --> 00:50:43.289
heartbreaking part. But I will tell you, and

00:50:43.289 --> 00:50:47.329
I hope that I'm right about this. I feel like.

00:50:47.659 --> 00:50:50.800
all of this coming out like where there's no

00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.039
hiding from it i hope that this is what she needs

00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.559
to be like you know what i i think i'm good here

00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.219
i think we can we can close the the the chapter

00:50:58.219 --> 00:51:02.119
on this marriage i hope that that's it and oh

00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:05.219
and then like kelsey's face the entire time that

00:51:05.219 --> 00:51:07.079
they're going back and forth with like the receipts

00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:08.699
and everything i couldn't get enough of it because

00:51:08.699 --> 00:51:11.480
kelsey was all of us i was like yeah this is

00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:14.699
my girl Yeah, she was doing a tennis match thing

00:51:14.699 --> 00:51:16.400
for sure with her eyes, just back and forth,

00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.579
back and forth watching. I mean, she was in shock.

00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.559
Yeah, I mean, Joellen brought all her receipts.

00:51:22.699 --> 00:51:26.800
She was thoroughly prepared. I 1 ,000 % love

00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:29.340
a housewife that comes to reunion with everything.

00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.980
Like, bring me everything. And she didn't even

00:51:32.980 --> 00:51:34.539
hide her phone. Joellen had her phone literally

00:51:34.539 --> 00:51:36.139
right next to her. You know, usually they have

00:51:36.139 --> 00:51:38.280
it behind the pillow. You know, she was like,

00:51:38.340 --> 00:51:40.659
no, I'm ready. Everything, bookmark, screenshot

00:51:40.659 --> 00:51:43.530
it. I'm like, ready to go. it was funny what

00:51:43.530 --> 00:51:48.150
was it two years ago um when stacy was on and

00:51:48.150 --> 00:51:51.530
she was trying to prove that karen took her to

00:51:51.530 --> 00:51:55.989
tally ho oh yeah yeah right and then yeah and

00:51:55.989 --> 00:51:58.889
then a picture popped up of stacy karen and me

00:51:58.889 --> 00:52:01.730
because i had i had sentences of the producers

00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:05.639
so when i we saw her the other day she uh She

00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:08.159
like ran to me. She's like, Andrea. I was like,

00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:10.780
I was like, I surprised you remember me. She

00:52:10.780 --> 00:52:13.420
only met me one time. I was like, oh, I'm surprised

00:52:13.420 --> 00:52:16.300
you remember. She goes, she goes, you got me

00:52:16.300 --> 00:52:18.219
some backup. Don't worry. She's just like, I

00:52:18.219 --> 00:52:20.460
got you too. So, yeah, she was really sweet.

00:52:20.860 --> 00:52:25.760
I like that. I had my my receipts as well. Sometimes

00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:31.219
some somewhere in a book. There was a class in

00:52:31.219 --> 00:52:35.300
my undergrad where. this professor like you there

00:52:35.300 --> 00:52:37.000
were there was no technology allowed in class

00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.119
and like you had to come to class and you had

00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:40.980
to be prepared because the professor would just

00:52:40.980 --> 00:52:43.519
cold call on people that's like I feel like Joellen

00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:45.300
would thrive in an environment like that because

00:52:45.300 --> 00:52:49.480
I was like this is a woman who sat down and understood

00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:53.300
every level of the assignment and I like I was

00:52:53.300 --> 00:52:56.679
like like the entire time like she was like doing

00:52:56.679 --> 00:52:58.719
this I was like god i wish i could have been

00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.039
her and like you could see her in that class

00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:02.880
you could see her in her wonder woman outfit

00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:06.099
right and she could be like yeah like right who

00:53:06.099 --> 00:53:09.500
also yeah linda carter who also is a uh customer

00:53:09.500 --> 00:53:14.860
of our restaurant she lives up the street i want

00:53:14.860 --> 00:53:17.019
the hall of fame like i want i do want to unpack

00:53:17.019 --> 00:53:18.880
this like i want to have like a bonus episode

00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:20.619
where you're just like this is the experience

00:53:20.619 --> 00:53:23.599
of potomac i feel like potomac and i know we're

00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.300
going off another tangent like but i remember

00:53:25.300 --> 00:53:27.860
like when they announced the real house i said

00:53:27.860 --> 00:53:30.059
potomac and i was like get that trash off my

00:53:30.059 --> 00:53:32.400
tv it was like potomac and salt lake city were

00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:34.239
coming out around the same time i was like i

00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:35.760
don't want to see it i'm not going to be interested

00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:41.360
and then i found out how wrong i was i was like

00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:46.199
this is television like because I was like because

00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:47.960
you don't think of Potomac or Salt Lake City

00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:50.880
or like Rhode Island even as these cities were

00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:55.199
like housewives exist but like yeah they're everywhere

00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:58.500
this is like this is a new chapter in Bravo history

00:53:58.500 --> 00:54:02.880
like absolutely I mean Rhode Island you're talking

00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:04.860
about or you're talking about Potomac still Rhode

00:54:04.860 --> 00:54:07.420
Island Potomac Salt Lake these cities where it's

00:54:07.420 --> 00:54:09.159
like you don't think of this like I like I but

00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:11.599
I think Potomac doesn't get enough credit because

00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:14.420
there's so much connection to politics. There's

00:54:14.420 --> 00:54:20.320
so much connection to real world stuff. I do

00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.739
want to unpack it with you one day because I

00:54:22.739 --> 00:54:25.420
think that there's a lot there. I love it. I

00:54:25.420 --> 00:54:29.159
like to talk, I promise. He does. He'll be here

00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.820
for hours. He does love to talk. It'll be a good

00:54:31.820 --> 00:54:36.059
bonus episode. I love it. Yeah. And I'll be here

00:54:36.059 --> 00:54:37.719
in the background to monitor him and be like,

00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:40.659
you can't say that. You can't say that part.

00:54:41.699 --> 00:54:47.820
I signed no NDAs, okay? Good. But I do think,

00:54:47.860 --> 00:54:50.019
and I think this is where Ashley really earned

00:54:50.019 --> 00:54:53.039
her second spot, or Ashley earned her spot on

00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.519
the second season, was when she leaned over to

00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:58.579
Rula in front of Brian and said, you understand

00:54:58.579 --> 00:55:01.019
you're better than him, right? Like, I was like,

00:55:02.059 --> 00:55:05.280
That's a real one. I like Ashley for that. She

00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:07.199
knew the answer, though. She knew the answer

00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:09.579
was, no, I don't know that I'm bad at that. You

00:55:09.579 --> 00:55:12.719
know what I mean? Rula looked at her and she

00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:16.559
goes, yes. Yeah. Travis, are you watching Love

00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:21.900
Island? I have tangentially watched a couple

00:55:21.900 --> 00:55:25.780
of episodes. Why? Tell me. No, it was just this

00:55:25.780 --> 00:55:28.019
one girl with this guy that's not good for her

00:55:28.019 --> 00:55:31.460
and is very toxic. There was a recoupling. And

00:55:31.460 --> 00:55:34.659
this one other castmate, female, was like looking

00:55:34.659 --> 00:55:36.800
at her and was like, you deserve better than

00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.780
this. You know, you're worth more. And she was

00:55:39.780 --> 00:55:40.920
like, yeah, that's thank you. She's like, that's

00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.380
what a real friend would tell me. You know, like

00:55:43.380 --> 00:55:48.360
you need someone to tell you the truth. So that

00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:52.219
story kind of reminded me of that. They don't

00:55:52.219 --> 00:55:54.719
listen. Some of my best girlfriends, I've given

00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:58.739
them advice. They don't listen. They don't listen.

00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:03.119
Sometimes I'm wrong. yeah but like but yeah i

00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.420
won't i gotta sometimes zip my mouth i can say

00:56:05.420 --> 00:56:08.579
too much same that's i think it's part of being

00:56:08.579 --> 00:56:13.820
gay honestly um is that what it is maybe i i

00:56:13.820 --> 00:56:16.440
or i the the italian greek thing because i'm

00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:18.960
italian you're you're greek it's maybe a mediterranean

00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:20.780
thing i i don't know we'll figure it out you

00:56:20.780 --> 00:56:22.159
have to talk because if you don't talk you die

00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:27.659
right yes yes but the thing about ashley is and

00:56:27.659 --> 00:56:29.800
i i'm glad it was ashley that said it because

00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:32.679
ashley was like i i don't have a dog in this

00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:35.300
fight like i haven't been super present but like

00:56:35.300 --> 00:56:38.639
what i have given has been super genuine and

00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:41.260
i was like i like you can hear it from ashley

00:56:41.260 --> 00:56:43.900
where she's like i need you to hear this and

00:56:43.900 --> 00:56:48.019
i like ashley for that wait i'm confused wait

00:56:48.019 --> 00:56:52.070
i'm who's ashley again I know we said this earlier.

00:56:52.469 --> 00:56:54.130
Ashley's the one married to the guy from The

00:56:54.130 --> 00:56:55.809
Bachelor. They were on The Bachelor in Paradise,

00:56:56.030 --> 00:56:58.090
right? It was The Bachelor in Paradise. And they

00:56:58.090 --> 00:57:00.230
had the coffee shop, Audrey's Coffee Shop. That

00:57:00.230 --> 00:57:05.130
wife. The one that was just not super present

00:57:05.130 --> 00:57:08.610
the entire reunion until this moment. Yeah, she

00:57:08.610 --> 00:57:11.190
came alive at that moment. Where was she sitting

00:57:11.190 --> 00:57:16.610
on the couch? She was on the end on Rula's side.

00:57:16.969 --> 00:57:22.510
Yeah, she was... right yeah it was then then

00:57:22.510 --> 00:57:28.849
rosie then um then ashley yeah yeah and i forgot

00:57:28.849 --> 00:57:32.949
her name was ashley okay poor andreas there's

00:57:32.949 --> 00:57:36.130
so many there's too many there's too many ashley's

00:57:36.130 --> 00:57:38.769
okay and that's fair i can't talk i can't talk

00:57:38.769 --> 00:57:41.650
to you about the one but she used to be on love

00:57:41.650 --> 00:57:46.780
and hip no it used to be on marriage dc marriage

00:57:46.780 --> 00:57:50.039
boot camp dc no she was on with monique uh marriage

00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:54.440
love and marriage dc there's an ashley there

00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:57.539
but we'll talk about that in the fall okay yeah

00:57:57.539 --> 00:57:59.360
we're going to come back from potomac air because

00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:00.639
we'll have a lot of things we can talk about

00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:03.900
then i want to do potomac with you guys like

00:58:03.900 --> 00:58:06.659
so we do every season premiere with husbands

00:58:06.659 --> 00:58:08.260
watching housewives you guys can come on for

00:58:08.260 --> 00:58:10.880
every episode that we talk about potomac i because

00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:13.420
that's that's emma's favorite city of housewives

00:58:13.420 --> 00:58:16.280
yeah i didn't get to tell you that but yeah i

00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:19.679
didn't know that oh we spent a lot of time talking

00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:22.699
about it last time she has to come in and say

00:58:22.699 --> 00:58:25.320
hi She's with her kids. I don't know. She's with

00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:27.579
her children, being a mom. She's really good

00:58:27.579 --> 00:58:29.639
at it. We'll try to see if we can do something

00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:32.679
later next time just for her. It's been a long

00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:38.340
weekend. Anyway. Sorry. No, no, no. We can cut

00:58:38.340 --> 00:58:42.300
all that out. I wanted to ask you guys because

00:58:42.300 --> 00:58:43.940
I know we're almost out of time. I wanted to

00:58:43.940 --> 00:58:50.219
ask you guys about Alicia when her fiancé came

00:58:50.219 --> 00:58:55.389
out and He was like, you know, I've invited her

00:58:55.389 --> 00:58:56.710
to come to these weekly meetings with a financial

00:58:56.710 --> 00:58:58.170
person to understand what's going on with the

00:58:58.170 --> 00:59:00.869
money and the trust and this and that. She's

00:59:00.869 --> 00:59:05.150
like, a meeting? That's so boring. I love Alicia

00:59:05.150 --> 00:59:09.789
to the death. But I was so beyond frustrated

00:59:09.789 --> 00:59:12.389
with that because here's the thing, too, you

00:59:12.389 --> 00:59:14.650
could do. Here's what I was thinking that would

00:59:14.650 --> 00:59:17.630
help her. Yes, financial things are boring. I'm

00:59:17.630 --> 00:59:19.469
an accountant, so I work in finance. So, like,

00:59:19.489 --> 00:59:21.539
to me, it's not as boring. And, Travis, you understand.

00:59:21.699 --> 00:59:23.800
Emma does, too. Yeah. And Andreas is all about

00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:26.920
finances, too. So, like, you get it. But you

00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:28.980
know what she could do? Bring her aunts with

00:59:28.980 --> 00:59:32.780
her. And they can translate it into, like, Alicia's

00:59:32.780 --> 00:59:35.340
speech so that she could understand it. Like,

00:59:35.380 --> 00:59:37.300
she needs someone there with her to help her

00:59:37.300 --> 00:59:40.500
translate. And also to keep her awake, pass her

00:59:40.500 --> 00:59:42.599
crackers, you know, like, the whole nine yards.

00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:45.659
I'm the Alicia in my relationship, okay? I'm

00:59:45.659 --> 00:59:46.820
the Alicia in my relationship. There's always

00:59:46.820 --> 00:59:49.679
one in each relationship. i don't know what's

00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:51.860
going on i don't mind going out and making this

00:59:51.860 --> 00:59:54.860
and just putting it over here just let me you

00:59:54.860 --> 00:59:57.199
know let me control something but not everything

00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:00.739
can i tell you what i saw playing out on this

01:00:00.739 --> 01:00:06.460
reunion with alicia and uh billy she presented

01:00:06.460 --> 01:00:09.599
a narrative because here's the thing i i don't

01:00:09.929 --> 01:00:12.090
I think you said it, Chantel, like when we were

01:00:12.090 --> 01:00:13.829
talking about it, where she was like, I think

01:00:13.829 --> 01:00:15.869
we're going to get a little more of both sides

01:00:15.869 --> 01:00:17.969
of this, where like Billy really did redeem himself

01:00:17.969 --> 01:00:23.110
in a lot of ways. I think Alicia regretted the

01:00:23.110 --> 01:00:26.090
narrative that she presented on this show. And

01:00:26.090 --> 01:00:28.349
this is how she's playing it off. Because I have

01:00:28.349 --> 01:00:31.190
I've been in meetings with clients that I have

01:00:31.190 --> 01:00:33.590
watched play out exactly like this before, where

01:00:33.590 --> 01:00:36.989
it's like the where it's the one party is like

01:00:36.989 --> 01:00:39.989
is not completely honest about how they presented

01:00:39.989 --> 01:00:43.449
something. So it's like. it presents itself and

01:00:43.449 --> 01:00:45.030
it's like oh i just don't care about it i'm bored

01:00:45.030 --> 01:00:47.050
like i do believe that alicia's not interested

01:00:47.050 --> 01:00:49.809
in it i think it made for a much more interesting

01:00:49.809 --> 01:00:53.989
story to say it was the prenup it was this it

01:00:53.989 --> 01:00:56.909
was that when we find out no they sent billy's

01:00:56.909 --> 01:00:59.670
draft of the prenup to to alicia's lawyers and

01:00:59.670 --> 01:01:02.010
to fill in to fill in what she wanted it was

01:01:02.010 --> 01:01:05.469
fill in the blank And gave Alicia everything

01:01:05.469 --> 01:01:10.250
she wanted. And we find out there's actually

01:01:10.250 --> 01:01:12.809
a trust that Alicia is a beneficiary of. And

01:01:12.809 --> 01:01:15.670
we find out that, like, that there's a whole

01:01:15.670 --> 01:01:17.349
estate plan in place if, God forbid, something

01:01:17.349 --> 01:01:19.369
does happen to Billy before they are married.

01:01:19.449 --> 01:01:22.849
Like, we found out that it's not quite what we

01:01:22.849 --> 01:01:25.989
were originally presented with. And I think that

01:01:25.989 --> 01:01:29.449
this was Alicia's way of saying, I just wasn't

01:01:29.449 --> 01:01:33.769
interested in it. Like, whatever. I didn't love

01:01:33.769 --> 01:01:38.570
that. I definitely was not a fan of Billy because

01:01:38.570 --> 01:01:41.429
of how she portrayed him this whole entire season.

01:01:42.050 --> 01:01:44.769
And you really thought that he was not going

01:01:44.769 --> 01:01:46.909
to give her anything with Pizza Mama. And then

01:01:46.909 --> 01:01:48.590
he comes out with the contract or whatever, and

01:01:48.590 --> 01:01:51.030
he's like, 50 % of my shares, and this and that.

01:01:51.170 --> 01:01:53.690
If you'll just drive our daughter to dance class.

01:01:54.130 --> 01:01:57.389
I don't want to sign it, Andy. I feel bad. I

01:01:57.389 --> 01:01:59.630
feel guilty. And everyone on the cast, Andy's

01:01:59.630 --> 01:02:01.429
like, should you do it? Everyone's like, sign

01:02:01.429 --> 01:02:04.110
it, bitch. What are you doing? Get your money.

01:02:05.130 --> 01:02:07.630
Okay, so what I was going to say is I feel like

01:02:07.630 --> 01:02:11.030
she's always been taken care of. Now, let me

01:02:11.030 --> 01:02:12.789
finish before. I feel like she's always been

01:02:12.789 --> 01:02:15.590
taken care of her whole entire life. And I think

01:02:15.590 --> 01:02:17.650
that's why Liz really had a problem with her

01:02:17.650 --> 01:02:20.170
saying I was homeless. Do you know what I mean?

01:02:20.610 --> 01:02:23.670
She's obviously been taken care of, so she doesn't

01:02:23.670 --> 01:02:25.670
need to know anything because I've always had

01:02:25.670 --> 01:02:27.670
everything. I don't need to know anything and

01:02:27.670 --> 01:02:31.210
I'll be okay. And that's why Liz was like, dude.

01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:33.440
do you see that everyone's always taking care

01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:34.739
of you and now you're gonna say you're homeless

01:02:34.739 --> 01:02:36.940
what does that what does that reflect on the

01:02:36.940 --> 01:02:41.039
rest of your family yeah that's a good point

01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.900
and what i will say is like i think alicia like

01:02:43.900 --> 01:02:47.159
of all the women on this show i think that she's

01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:48.659
probably the one that's the most guilty of being

01:02:48.659 --> 01:02:50.559
like i'm just gonna say this for the show and

01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:52.239
like because i think that we do get a lot of

01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:54.360
her real personality but i think the homeless

01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.989
comment i think the um the like portrayal of

01:02:57.989 --> 01:03:00.429
billy like i think a lot of it was just like

01:03:00.429 --> 01:03:02.230
oh this is just for the show and like none of

01:03:02.230 --> 01:03:07.090
it's real and then like i think i think she painted

01:03:07.090 --> 01:03:09.969
herself into that corner unfortunately do you

01:03:09.969 --> 01:03:12.530
think some of it was real but she just exaggerated

01:03:12.530 --> 01:03:16.829
it for the show maybe maybe yeah i kind of think

01:03:16.829 --> 01:03:19.610
that you also have your surroundings if she is

01:03:19.610 --> 01:03:22.010
surrounded by the same kind of people like i

01:03:22.010 --> 01:03:25.920
grew up in potomac and everyone always had this

01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:28.420
everyone always had the car everyone went to

01:03:28.420 --> 01:03:31.679
private school but then your parents can't suddenly

01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:34.179
pay for private school and it's like my parents

01:03:34.179 --> 01:03:36.400
are poor like but they don't you don't really

01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:38.460
it's just like this facade in your head that

01:03:38.460 --> 01:03:41.579
there's something wrong and that's what she believed

01:03:41.579 --> 01:03:46.179
i get her and i think we will get her more next

01:03:46.179 --> 01:03:49.739
season but i think she was kind of wrong by you

01:03:49.739 --> 01:03:51.619
know she doesn't realize that she does have a

01:03:51.619 --> 01:03:56.960
lot I agree and like I what I do love more than

01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:59.500
anything about Alicia is like I think the girl

01:03:59.500 --> 01:04:02.019
that's like I want a cracker and I want this

01:04:02.019 --> 01:04:04.199
and I want that and like the like thing where

01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:07.760
like she was so like flippant about the engagement

01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:10.719
like I think that that's her real personality

01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:15.360
and I love that she's been embraced by the fandom

01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.519
the way she has because like she's doing cameos

01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:21.550
and like you're getting exactly what you get

01:04:21.550 --> 01:04:24.690
with alicia i like that she's like experiencing

01:04:24.690 --> 01:04:26.289
though like hey it's okay to be yourself and

01:04:26.289 --> 01:04:27.889
like you don't have to like put anything else

01:04:27.889 --> 01:04:30.409
out that's just for the show like i i like that

01:04:30.409 --> 01:04:34.449
she's seeing that in real life that's why i don't

01:04:34.449 --> 01:04:36.369
want her to change i don't want her to change

01:04:36.369 --> 01:04:38.750
at all i love it like i want i don't want any

01:04:38.750 --> 01:04:41.489
of these housewives on this cast to change based

01:04:41.489 --> 01:04:45.269
on fan feedback fan comments what twitter said

01:04:45.269 --> 01:04:49.530
like please come back and be yourself You know,

01:04:49.550 --> 01:04:51.210
if you have some parts of personality that are

01:04:51.210 --> 01:04:53.969
horrible and maybe you were, the fans that you

01:04:53.969 --> 01:04:57.449
know, work on yourself and be better in that

01:04:57.449 --> 01:05:01.570
respect. But I love everyone on this cast. Like

01:05:01.570 --> 01:05:03.670
everyone's personality, they gelled together

01:05:03.670 --> 01:05:07.530
well. I felt like I was getting a peek inside

01:05:07.530 --> 01:05:09.829
of their personal lives, not like watching a

01:05:09.829 --> 01:05:12.389
TV show. I agree. I just think it was fantastic.

01:05:13.449 --> 01:05:17.000
So. Do we have anything else about the reunion

01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:22.559
before I ask the famous last question? Let me

01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:27.219
check my notes, but I think we covered everything.

01:05:27.579 --> 01:05:30.880
I don't really care about that. What did they

01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:32.780
drink at the end? Did they drink something at

01:05:32.780 --> 01:05:36.719
the end? I forgot. Dirty Shirley. Oh, yeah, yeah,

01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:39.570
yeah. Oh. Yeah, that's really all I have. And

01:05:39.570 --> 01:05:41.750
Andy got his little mask. I thought that was

01:05:41.750 --> 01:05:44.690
so cute. Oh, yeah, his mask. Yeah, that was cute.

01:05:45.269 --> 01:05:47.730
Because I will tell you that there is something

01:05:47.730 --> 01:05:50.829
so, like, I don't know that Beverly Hills has

01:05:50.829 --> 01:05:52.769
ever done it. I know Orange County's never done

01:05:52.769 --> 01:05:54.969
it. But, like, Potomac has done it. Salt Lake

01:05:54.969 --> 01:05:57.309
City's done it. Now Rhode Island's done it. We're

01:05:57.309 --> 01:06:00.300
like. the women give Andy something because it's

01:06:00.300 --> 01:06:02.460
like, I think there is some level of like, hey,

01:06:02.539 --> 01:06:05.099
without you, we can't be us. And like, I think

01:06:05.099 --> 01:06:07.519
they really, they appreciate the reciprocal relationship.

01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:11.000
And I like that. I really like that. Yeah, Andy

01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:13.219
was like, he's going in the clubhouse. Yeah.

01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:19.179
What would I give Andy? I haven't given Andy

01:06:19.179 --> 01:06:21.599
a lot of things, but. You have. You already have.

01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:24.440
We know. I've done a couple things I would give

01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:32.579
Andy, and I can't say it on here. Have you ever

01:06:32.579 --> 01:06:35.940
met him, Travis? No. We've talked on Twitter

01:06:35.940 --> 01:06:40.139
before. This was a million years ago. It was

01:06:40.139 --> 01:06:46.340
2012 when this all had not blown up quite yet.

01:06:46.820 --> 01:06:49.880
Radio Andy was a thing on SiriusXM, and I had

01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:53.469
just gotten a new car, so I had... serious xm

01:06:53.469 --> 01:06:55.849
and um i was like oh look at this guy that i'm

01:06:55.849 --> 01:06:57.489
listening to and like i tagged him in a tweet

01:06:57.489 --> 01:06:59.590
and he like responded i was like oh my god you're

01:06:59.590 --> 01:07:06.610
so cool i love that yeah i mean i was in real

01:07:06.610 --> 01:07:10.110
life he's he's a very sweet guy that i mean well

01:07:10.110 --> 01:07:11.570
i mean i don't really know him that well but

01:07:11.570 --> 01:07:13.889
what i've met of him he's a very sweet guy and

01:07:13.889 --> 01:07:16.889
his children are beautiful met his children um

01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:19.340
i mean it's just like a normal life the nanny

01:07:19.340 --> 01:07:25.719
brought him to work i mean i love that but um

01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:29.199
yeah hopefully uh maybe we'll all go see him

01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:32.539
again sometime soon let's let's do it it's funny

01:07:32.539 --> 01:07:34.679
because for new year's eve i posted like an ai

01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:38.300
picture of me andy and anderson this was uh in

01:07:38.300 --> 01:07:42.780
january and then they're coming to dc so the

01:07:42.780 --> 01:07:45.400
andy and anderson are coming to dc so we're gonna

01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:48.889
go see And I was like, well, who knows if we

01:07:48.889 --> 01:07:51.630
get to ask a question, let me get that picture

01:07:51.630 --> 01:07:57.050
made into real life that not AI. I call us the

01:07:57.050 --> 01:08:00.829
triple A's. Andy and Andreas. That works. That

01:08:00.829 --> 01:08:03.829
really works. In my head. In my head. I'll call

01:08:03.829 --> 01:08:08.570
you the triple A's. I don't care. But did you

01:08:08.570 --> 01:08:12.010
have anything else in your notes? The only thing

01:08:12.010 --> 01:08:13.590
I was going to ask is just your guys' opinion

01:08:13.590 --> 01:08:16.760
on Liz not returning. For season two. Sucks.

01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:19.979
I hate it. I hate it. I think she should come

01:08:19.979 --> 01:08:26.079
back for sure because redemption, you know, unresolved

01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:28.159
relationships. I mean, there's so much that could,

01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:30.800
you know. Why do you think, what do you think

01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:32.279
the real reason is? I mean, there's speculation.

01:08:32.699 --> 01:08:35.779
Liz even posted, it's not because of Dino. Like,

01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:38.479
stop saying that, you know. And I've never been

01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:40.720
investigated by the authorities. And, you know,

01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:45.399
she's very much negating those rumors. Do you

01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:47.560
want me to be completely honest with you? Yes,

01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:53.880
of course. I feel like she... I think there's

01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:55.779
some skeletons in the closet because there is

01:08:55.779 --> 01:08:58.699
some legal stuff that has come out. That's irrefutable.

01:08:59.140 --> 01:09:03.899
I think she has seen how hard Joellen is willing

01:09:03.899 --> 01:09:11.319
to go. And I think that that is... I can respect

01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:13.060
this because everyone has stuff they don't want

01:09:13.060 --> 01:09:15.119
out. Everyone has skeletons in their closet they

01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:19.000
don't want to deal with. And I think Liz is truly

01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:22.520
like, you know what? I've done it. I'm good.

01:09:22.659 --> 01:09:27.060
I don't want to deal with it if it does come

01:09:27.060 --> 01:09:30.399
to that. I think all this is going to pan out

01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.180
and she'll be back season three. I pray to God

01:09:33.180 --> 01:09:38.640
she does. I love Liz. I love Liz. I would love

01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:40.899
to even just see her in the background of, like,

01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:43.680
a party. You know, not even as a friend of, but

01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.000
just still see her. I mean... Well, if she's

01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:47.680
not on, maybe she'll become our friends. Who

01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:50.760
knows? Well, I am going to Rhode Island, so we

01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:57.000
will see. Yeah, I... Like, I didn't like her

01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:58.880
at the very last few episodes and reunion. I

01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:01.739
wasn't really a fan. But same as the way you

01:10:01.739 --> 01:10:04.819
need Ashley. you know the medium housewife you

01:10:04.819 --> 01:10:08.899
need to have a liz too so yeah i am i'm upset

01:10:08.899 --> 01:10:12.000
i wouldn't even call her a villain in those last

01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:15.119
few episodes it's just like i think like we saw

01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:17.619
some stuff that needed to like she needs to work

01:10:17.619 --> 01:10:19.880
on and like i think that's the cool part about

01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:23.079
housewives is like if you if you if you hold

01:10:23.079 --> 01:10:24.579
these women accountable if they're willing to

01:10:24.579 --> 01:10:27.300
be held accountable for some of their some of

01:10:27.300 --> 01:10:31.359
the ways they mess up i think that you get solid

01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:34.140
gold from these women like i it's just i don't

01:10:34.140 --> 01:10:35.819
know it sucks that she's not coming back for

01:10:35.819 --> 01:10:38.399
season two i mean she reminds me of an aunt and

01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:42.079
when when auntie liz is angry we just leave her

01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:43.880
alone and let her do what she's gonna do until

01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:51.520
she comes back two hands like that but Now that

01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:53.920
it's all said and done, now that we have everything

01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:56.920
we know about this season is what we know, who

01:10:56.920 --> 01:10:59.460
would you want to be friends with from this cast

01:10:59.460 --> 01:11:03.779
of women? Pick one, or we all know if we're picking

01:11:03.779 --> 01:11:06.539
one, who's picked who we're picking. Who are

01:11:06.539 --> 01:11:08.560
we picking? Are we all going to say it on three?

01:11:09.220 --> 01:11:13.100
No. I would definitely do Joellen. Okay. Obviously.

01:11:13.939 --> 01:11:21.649
Number two would probably be, I don't know. Probably

01:11:21.649 --> 01:11:26.109
Rosie. Okay. What about you, Chantel? He always

01:11:26.109 --> 01:11:28.750
steals my answers. It's really annoying. But

01:11:28.750 --> 01:11:31.289
Joellen, for sure. I would love to hang out with

01:11:31.289 --> 01:11:35.229
her. Oh, my gosh. And like I said last time when

01:11:35.229 --> 01:11:38.109
I was on here, I like Rosie. I'm bummed that

01:11:38.109 --> 01:11:40.130
the event I was going to go to to meet her got

01:11:40.130 --> 01:11:43.649
postponed until the fall. So that didn't happen.

01:11:43.770 --> 01:11:49.010
But, yeah, I like Rosie. Fair. obviously i'm

01:11:49.010 --> 01:11:51.010
gonna say joelle and i think she's just the coolest

01:11:51.010 --> 01:11:53.810
woman i would also want to be friends with ashley

01:11:53.810 --> 01:11:56.170
like i i that answer has not changed for me i

01:11:56.170 --> 01:11:58.689
think she's just she's a cool girl like i think

01:11:58.689 --> 01:12:01.710
like and like i feel like if you're friends with

01:12:01.710 --> 01:12:04.750
ashley like you're that is a friend i like i

01:12:04.750 --> 01:12:07.670
want to be her friend but i feel like ashley

01:12:07.670 --> 01:12:10.250
is feasible like that's an easy one like we could

01:12:10.250 --> 01:12:11.989
i will go to rhode island we'll find her and

01:12:11.989 --> 01:12:15.300
we'll hang out i want to go to audrey's and i'm

01:12:15.300 --> 01:12:17.800
sure well you know like oh yeah the restaurant

01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:21.359
let's do it like we just talked about being besties

01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:26.939
with you so what do you think okay okay you can

01:12:26.939 --> 01:12:33.760
have table number 10. so funny you guys tell

01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:39.189
the people where they can find you Andreas underscore

01:12:39.189 --> 01:12:43.770
Mr. Potomac on Instagram. I think it's the same

01:12:43.770 --> 01:12:48.869
on TikTok. Where else am I? That's it. You can

01:12:48.869 --> 01:12:51.550
find me at Tally Ho almost seven days a week.

01:12:52.909 --> 01:12:58.630
Love. Chantel? You can find me at PurplePandaPants

01:12:58.630 --> 01:13:03.670
on Instagram and TikTok and Reddit. you guys

01:13:03.670 --> 01:13:06.409
thank you for being here thank you for this is

01:13:06.409 --> 01:13:09.289
i like i hate that emma was not here like i i

01:13:09.289 --> 01:13:12.449
know she's just off being the best mom ever but

01:13:12.449 --> 01:13:16.109
we'll do this again when when potomac's around

01:13:16.109 --> 01:13:17.590
or literally whenever you guys want to come back

01:13:17.590 --> 01:13:22.250
on i had such a blast with you guys um thank

01:13:22.250 --> 01:13:25.770
you for being here and from indy to rhode island

01:13:25.770 --> 01:13:28.829
to potomac maryland thank you for being here

01:13:28.829 --> 01:13:30.550
and thank you for loving us we'll see you next

01:13:30.550 --> 01:13:33.050
time thank you for having us thank you