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0:15 Hi, I'm Travis, and this is Bestie Approved. We're back with our returning champions, Scott and Jeff from Husbands Watching Housewives. And we're going to do Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, the season 15 premiere. You guys have been on several times, but introduce yourselves. Let's do the thing. I'm Scott. And I'm Jeff. And we, like you said, we're the Husbands Watching Housewives. And we just we watch nothing but housewife shows and then talk about them. And we're two husbands of each other because that's been confusing for some people. We're married to each other and we like housewives. Yeah, it's as easy as it gets. Someone recently thought that we were straight and they're like, where are your wives? And we're like, oh, no, no, it's we are. There are no wives. We are. Yeah, it's us. Yeah. And to their credit, they didn't go.

1:07 oh they're like oh okay yeah okay like i thought for sure they would be even more like oh and then kind of slowly back away from us but no they were they were cool like back away they were in line yeah i mean far be it for me to like to stereotype but like i i and i love you guys but like what what what gives wife about either of you i was like what about this read straight and we were at bravo con so what about that read straight yeah so it does not i i think they were like they were just lovely housewives that were really hopeful that they too could have husbands that would watch housewives so they're projecting onto us i think got it okay so speaking of bravo con you guys went to bravo con and emma and i were so deeply jealous of that and i want to hear about it so like what's do you have like a rosenthorn from bravo con like tell me tell me everything Well, the overall thorn is that everyone who went got god -awfully sick, it seems. Like, you could just, we were in part of a Facebook group, and, like, everyone in there was like, are you sick? Are you, yep, we're all sick. Oh, no. It was a nasty hold.

2:17 But for serious, like, you know, that's just any convention, I feel, comes back with some sort of garbage. But the rose. I was going to also, the thorn is, you know, it's a lot to put this together, you know, for Bravo, for the production behind it. But I think there's certain things, a lot of. A lot of people didn't get photo ops and things weren't maybe as organized as well as they could be in certain respects. So there were a lot of, we weren't disgruntled because, you know, there are things, you know, I would have liked better, but for the overall, it was, it was great. But I think other people just didn't have the best feeling from it. They still enjoyed it, but like, you know, I think it left them questioning whether or not they would come back. Cause it was a very expensive thing, you know, we have the tickets and any add -ons. and you know hotel and airfare and food because vegas is like insanely expensive just to like you know breakfast was 60 bucks yeah just to get like crappy breakfast sandwiches right but uh my personal thorn though would be uh in the vip room where we were at the bravo liberties would come in and they do like little impromptu photo ops and they're just lines would spontaneously form and sometimes you didn't even know who it was for So you'd be standing there in this long ass line.

3:30 And then suddenly some, you know, Southern charm person that you're like, okay, whatever. Then you get out of line. But we were there. Erica Jane was there. Jeff really wanted a picture with her. And we were maybe three people from the front. We were farther back than that. Not that far. It was a pretty long line. Either way. She's like, sorry, sorry, got to go. And she starts walking off. Basically, it's like they stand in front of a step and repeat. And it's like, you come up and take a picture. You hand your camera to the staff member. a million shots they're great that the staff excellent at bravo con excellent i can't say enough about them but at some point she was like i'm gonna cut this off and she's like i will come to you in line and you can take a selfie with me so i'm gonna walk you stay where you are and i'll take a selfie but we were prepared um to have not a selfie so like scott turned the camera you know a beat too late And so it's like this blurry shot of like Erica waving. Behind my head. And you have like the top of my head. So I'm in the photo.

4:29 And I did like, when she walked up, I was like, hi, Erica. And she's like, hi, baby. So I had that moment. And I cherish that moment with Erica Jane. And I'm like, I saw her in person, like up close and personal. And she spoke to me. So I'm okay with that. So a little thorny, but still a bit of a rose to it. And then overall, I think my rose is just being at the panels. And when they're good, they're good. Like, oh my God, when you see all this stuff going on, like the Potomac panel and the Atlanta panel were both amazing. The Atlanta panel was like a reunion, basically. And so to see all that shade going back and forth in real time, you're just like, whoa, it's like, I don't have subtitles. I need subtitles. And I think also my personal rose was when we had our photo op with Tamara and Katie Janela. okay you know scott went to tamra and i walked up to katie and she took my hands and hers and she's like i know you from tick tock i know you from tick tock and i was like i love that i i am on the tick tock and she's like no and i was like i realized later on i should have been like husband's watching housewives like throw her a bone yeah but i was like just so caught off guard and then matt her husband was like waiting behind the scenes and she's like matt come here come here she's like this is the guy like from tick tock he's like oh He shook my hand and he was like, thank you for what you do. And I was like, thank you. You were great last night at the reunion. This is after part two of the reunion, by the way. And I was just so caught off guard. And so we went straight from that and we made a video. We put it up on

6:00 TikTok. And both she and Matt commented. We tagged them, of course. But it was just so weird to have someone... a bravo liberty know who i was and in some ways um and she was very nice and she's insanely pretty in person they're all insane everyone's so pretty also so sure so sure so katie is one of the ones where i'm i'm i'm sure she like handles her own social media because katie follows me on tick tock and like i like i'm no one and i'm like and like she's commented on like she's responded to a couple of comments before and i'm like oh you seem real and you seem really really cool so i'm glad that like you guys got that experience in real life because that's that's really cool to experience yeah no for sure she does not have a social media manager i think that is her up in the comments i think it's bandon i think it's her her son probably here do this i'm kidding it's like next i just like saying the name bandon because it's a silly name for a human i think it's a cute Like not Brandon, but Bandon? Correct. Oh, that's cute. I like that. Maybe it's short for Abandon.

7:07 We love the name. I love the name. I love Katie Janela. If you're listening to Katie Janela, thanks. Dear Katie, your bestie approved. Just know that. And the husbands watching Housewives also love you. I forgot to ask you when we kicked it off, what's the last song you guys listened to? It would have been at the holiday party last... No, it would have been coming home in the car last night. I don't even remember. I mean, with Spotify wrapped out, I'm listening to all my favorite songs from 2025. My Spotify wrap says I'm 66. And I'm fine with that because I skew older in my musical taste. But my top five artists were, of course, Mariah, Taylor, Beyonce, Gaga, and Madonna. And I listened to the Taylor album and Mariah's new album, like on repeat. So those are like my top two albums. So yeah, probably something by them. I found out that one of my top five music genres is something called bedroom pop, which at this point I just think Spotify is making shit up. They're just like, all right, you listen to gobbledygook. I didn't even tell me. I was like, I gotta, I gotta Google that sometime. What about you? What'd you listen to?

8:22 uh it was love on the dance floor by vince palmieri um but speaking so like the the spotify wrapped thing like it's all over my instagram right now and like i don't use spotify i listen to apple music and they do apple music replay and i feel like every year when i get my replay it's like it's just calling me the f slur because it's like you listen to rupaul and you said your top artist was cashed out for four months in a row and i was like okay yeah i'm googling bedroom pop right now to see what this is hang on i had on my because i made the playlist for my christmas party office holiday party and um i had uh catch this joyride on there i discovered that at the gym it's such a good song and it's not like an accordion in it what is that like it's like like yes it starts off like like weird al accordion and then it gets like you know pop but i love the song the line when she says um you want kids well i am mother yes so good and like i just i like i want to know how this woman's brain works because i'm just like you sat down and you like it's just like she sat down and like wrote lines that like i'm gonna write this in the lab for gay people like because i know they're gonna love it and then i'm gonna put an accordion in the background and then it's gonna like be it's gonna be like a circus song and i'm like it's so good it's like that that meme with erica where she's like we're gonna give the gays everything they want yes yes yes yes when was it mykonos or whatever where she was doing that um but bedroom

9:57 pop is a diy indie pop sub sub -genre defined by artists creating music in their bedrooms or home studios resulting in a lo -fi dreamy and intimate sound often exploring personal themes with soft vocals and homemade production oh yeah i mean that explains it i thought it was like just stuff you look at listen to like when you're just in bed like if you're you know your kid you're doing your homework or if you're an adult you're scrolling on your phone and you kind of like shimmy to it but it's not like pop where you're like you know dancing to it or working out to it Because I'm also the king of loving a song if it's mid to low tempo. Like any song where you're like, I kind of want to dance, but how do you dance to this? That's what I like.

10:37 That's my genre. His Spotify age was 21. Because I listened to all that. You get your music off YouTube. I'm like, sure do. We didn't even ask about Emma. Oh, yes. How's she doing? Okay, well, so she's... Whatever you guys got at BravoCon, I had last week, and then Emma has this week. We were both sick as dogs, but aside from that, she is having the best time. August is so perfect. He's so cute. I don't even like babies, but I saw August on FaceTime, and he's perfect. He's so cute. Kenny is... He's a... i didn't think he was gonna be a bad dad at all but like i think he's enjoying being a dad much more than he expected to enjoy it um but they're perfect they're so good there's i mean there was a lot of adjustment happening emma didn't sleep for like a week but i think everything's kind of like leveling off and they're having a great time and i think it's it's gonna be really cool and jack i think is getting used to the idea of like having a little brother because for his entire life he's been the absolute center of attention and he's always been a little star so i think he's figuring out how to share the spotlight it's it's it's been really cool to like see how that's progressing but they're they're having a great time how old is he how does jack jack is seven oh okay well then yes he's definitely been used to being the one in a way interesting yeah and like he is

12:08 always just like i mean if you've ever heard him like in the background of uh best year approved like he's always just like putting on a show when we're like when they're when we're there and it's just like it's i don't know on some level i think of like i didn't know him i'd be like oh my god shut up kid but like i know him like i know his personality so like i just i love it so much so like he's great i think that's the survival instinct of children is they it's just like you know if i was just annoying people wouldn't like me but i gotta i got to got to be cute and people will but some don't know so i don't understand that i that concept that's why i too i like friends and families kids but other strange kids i'm like no not so much yeah they are to be like okay i'll listen to that screaming right now yeah yeah well and i'm the same way like my niece and nephew like they they can do no wrong as far as i'm concerned i mean they could like burn my house down and be like well they were being creative it's fine and like jack is the same way i'm like he can do whatever he wants he can destroy whatever he wants but like if i hear someone else's kid like screaming at meyer or something i'm like shut up control your kid and take it home but yeah here we are um before we jump into reality roundup i have a correction that i have to make for you guys because you guys called emma and me out about something and it was half right um i have a little clip that i'm gonna put up on the screen and

13:38 i'm gonna let you watch it and we're gonna go from here oh wow oh wow you let the check in right and it's just funny for us who we do not check bags yeah i don't I would just hate it. Wasn't it Travis who was saying he checks bags? Oh, I was on one of the episodes of Bestie Approved. I was listening. Oh, like he purposely checks the bag? Like he and Emma believe in checking bags. Like they want to roam freely through the airport with no baggage. I don't know that feeling. And I don't want to know that feeling. I do not want to wait at my destination to pick up my bag. To watch that thing spin around. Okay. So. Wow. emma and i do check bags and i'm going to tell you why i love checking a bag is because i have the delusion that i'm going to meet my husband at baggage claim okay okay okay so it's not solely because i like roaming freely around the airport it's because i'm trying to find a man so there's that i mean that would be the cutest of all meet cutes in the entire world oh let me just tell you i have this sick delusion we're like it's gonna be a gray samsonite suitcase coming down the thing we're both gonna reach for it our hands are gonna meet and i'm gonna be like oh is that yours and he's gonna be like oh no maybe it's yours i'm gonna be like oh my god we have the same taste in suitcases let's grab dinner and then it's like it's gonna be in a place that i love like atlanta or miami or like somewhere stupid and that's how i'm gonna find my husband so all right is you've answered the question uh where's my husband that is a

15:12 very good song too yeah yeah yeah also you also made my day because i felt like i was in a reunion we're like let's watch this clip i'll have one ready for every collab we do i promise i think in all fairness i think in your episode you even mentioned your meet your meet cute situation that was one of your things and i just i forgot it when i was retelling the story so i just like i heard that and i was like i have to like drag them a little bit for that because like i thought it was so funny that you guys even clocked that i have a friend who would always refuse to have a bag he would just always be like i just you know if i need to run somewhere i'm like where are you running in the airport dude i've run in the airport like once to catch a plane and i would never oh again i'm never running in an airport like let me just tell you something if my plane takes off i'll catch the next one i'm not running anywhere right right yeah it's also weird that like to not have a bag because we always like i travel with my c -pap so that's always on me and then he has his messenger bag and we we share uh one bag and so just to be unencumbered would you be like wait where's the stuff like i freak out like do we leave our bag behind and it's oh it's so freeing i gotta tell you i'm like the c -pap i i do get because like those are like incredibly like you can't it's like a laptop you can't check that so i'll i'll give you that one but like not having a rolling

16:42 bag with you like through the airport oh my god it's the most freeing thing ever i love it trust me it's a dream that i have like i one day want to not have that but i want to be rich enough to hire someone to bring my luggage to my destination and set it up like i'm diana yes well they have to like come and like sage the room for you first yeah did you say stage or sage because either way it works either way why not burn the sage and yeah um that'll be when we get our private jet so correct me if i'm wrong but beverly hills was like your guys's entry into housewives right is that what you guys had told me originally no it was probably mine that's that was the Atlanta reunion was mine but uh but Beverly Hills was the first full season we watched I think together yeah yes that's true that was the year that we uh moved in together moved in together and we saw it in HD in uh Dorit's uh cleavage makeup wasn't done very well you were like oh my god that's HD cleavage anyway but like yeah oh god sorry i think it's together probably was our first yeah like real thing that we watched got it because i think i remember when we first talked like it we got into beverly hills a little bit and the kyle and the teddy of it all and i like looking back on it i'm like i think the last time you guys talked about us it was like oh

18:13 we're at some point we're gonna fight about like something and i feel like beverly hills might be the catalyst to a fight um bring it but like Well, watching this episode, I was like, there's not a ton to fight about here. So how did you feel about the premiere? Well, so I liked it. I enjoyed the episode. What's interesting is that this is the second time we've seen, not the whole episode, but during the Beverly Hills panel, which wasn't great. And Beverly Hills is my favorite show. But it wasn't great because it was very awkward. And I think it was a combination of the moderator, who we didn't know, and also the women just not being cohesive. Because I think with Beverly Hills, there are pockets of friendship, but they're not cohesive, like, say, Salt Lake or whatever. And so it was just a really awkward time. And in the middle of this, they played the first 15 minutes of the premiere.

19:13 And it's normally fun to watch something like this with a group of people because the auditorium was full. It was packed because it's Beverly Hills. But not a lot happens. Like, basically, it left off. It ended with Sutton saying she let Avi go. Cliffhanger. And so... There's nothing there. Right. Like, it was like a lead balloon because we're like... At one point, it was great seeing them all together and seeing... the first few moments and like those scenes like eric washing the car and like you know them being like rich beverly hills ladies and people like lost their minds when rachel zoe like came on they're like oh my god like it was screaming but it just wasn't it wasn't exciting because the first 50 minutes of a premiere are like let's recap let's like reacclimate tell you where they are right now it's not a they should have just shown the trailer that would have been enough you know they touched a room from a very high energy room to like here take a nap yeah and that's kind of how this episode at least the first half hour of it felt like okay like with potomac the that panel they showed the mid -season trailer which hadn't come out yet so everyone's like was so hyped about that because there's such a great trailer so to like go from that to like it was like well i think that's the thing i've struggled with with beverly hills because like after eileen davidson and after like lisa renna and after kim richards have have left the show it doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like there's drama but it also

20:43 doesn't feel like any of the relationships are really that authentic sometimes like i like i don't at this point i don't really know how sutton fits into the cast anymore because it doesn't feel like anyone really adores her anymore bows i really really really like i don't i like i wish she had more connections to the group because like it doesn't feel like it feels like they're kind of going through the motions with her and rachel zoe of all people i would have thought that she would have known every single person on this class or on this cast because she feels like such a like a big presence and yeah and she feels like beverly hills but i'm like oh apparently she only really knew bows so i like and maybe that's her end but i i don't know like i i hope that this isn't another one of the beverly hills seasons where it's like we're trying to find something because like i i i want to like this show and i think i told you guys when i originally watch Beverly Hills like I like the idea of who Kyle Richards used to be like what she represents of like that old Hollywood thing or like there's a there's a lot of story there with with big Kathy and like she's Paris Hilton's aunt and like there's there's so much like real stuff there that happened with Kim and like what's happening like the the ongoing story with Kathy that like if you if she when she lets herself be vulnerable and like honest like there's there's good stuff there but I I feel like I haven't seen it from them in a really long time. I think

22:15 the last few seasons have gotten really muddied. I think since the whole Erica, you know, Tom embezzlement debacle, I think they got so focused on attacking Erica. And then from there on out, it kind of got turned into just attacking people's kind of show. Last season, it was like, we're going to get on Kyle and we're going to make Kyle all, you know, like, why aren't you sharing more? All that stuff. So I think they're trying to get back to a place where it's a little bit more exciting and fun. And I think they're even kind of building that in that they're, I think, addressing it honestly in this episode of they haven't spoken to each other since the reunion. And they're saying like, oh, no, I haven't seen. So it's more that they're coming together now that they're filming, but they're not saying that. They're just saying, oh, we're coming together now and we're having this party. I haven't seen you in so long. It's almost like they're old friends. catching up and so i think they're bringing us with them on that journey and i i hope that it goes somewhere nice and you know back to the good the good beverly hills yeah it's like work friends yeah it's like i see at the office and during the hiatus i might text you but i might not so but yeah it would make for awkwardness i think in the kyle of it all i i do agree you know she had bigger moments earlier on in in her run as the longest running housewife consecutively by the way sure 15 years as anybody but like that so this is the thing with kyle is like she's the one who gave us like that you're such a liar

23:45 camille like she gave us like she's given us really really good moments and like part like i kind of want to like fit like when you think about like the psychology of all of it of like when she thought her life was perfect and she had the perfect marriage and she had the perfect family it's like she didn't feel like she had to protect that space in her life almost i feel like so now that it's like oh the marriage fell apart like and that sucks and now she's like trying to figure out it seems like am i into men am i into women and i feel like that has to be and not an uncomfortable place to be but you're figuring stuff out right so it's like maybe that's why she's not giving us everything but like when kyle gives you stuff it's so good i like i miss that i miss it so much yeah because i think she has like a really i don't know her obviously but i think she's a really good person and she is capable of being vulnerable and and breaking down i think right now she just you're right she does pick and choose what she wants to give And, you know, she's not going all in like Dorit, especially in regards to Mauricio.

24:54 So, yeah, I don't know. It's like, I definitely hear that. And I also like hear her saying like, what else do I need to do? Like at BravoCon, she was on a panel. She was like, do I need to put a camera on the toilet? You know, but it's like, no, you don't need to like show every little thing, but you could be, you know, there are definitely places where you could be a bit more revealing. But also, I feel like if you're not comfortable with your friends to give all that, then you're not going to do it. Like, I think she is actually real friends with Erica. But I think the others, it's not the same. And Kathy, of course, too. So she's not going to give as much, which is just, you still got to give. So I'm more definitely coming around to your point of view. Because normally I'm married. kyle's my number one and i'm like you know so like aggro would it go yeah i'm like no you have a point so travis you have a point and it's like i don't want to be i don't want to be right about like her not being great but i think you you have a point too where like i think if you're not comfortable in your friendships you're not going to feel as comfortable sharing and i feel like i think a big part of the problem is beverly hills and in orange county used to be this way it's not that bad anymore but like it's it's very clear that these women do not hang out in the off season like it's it's i think these women for better or worse are work friends and they're

26:25 they're giving they're giving what they would give work friends so i think we're kind of starting to see that a little bit because andy cohen said it a million times the best shows are the ones where you know that they are friends in real life and like that's that's why you have potomac that is like lightning in a bottle like salt lake city that is like they know they know everything about each other so you know you know it's the real thing so i think i think you have a point there too where i don't think kyle feels comfortable giving everything because she doesn't she might not trust them as much as you would your best friends and i think that they need to have um a couple a season where they just are No one's just at each other. And I know that's part of the joy of watching Housewives shows is seeing the conflict. But I think if they have a season or at least a few episodes where they're just having fun and it's low key, low pressure, then I think they can start to open up and share things with each other because they're not going to feel like they're on guard all the time. And that's not just Kyle. That's everyone, including Dorit and all that stuff. I think the other thing that they need is, I think it's great when they have... housewives that, you know, you'd pick a side and you're like, Oh, Dorit's great. No, I'm, I'm, I'm on team Kyle. That's fine. But I think the thing with Camille or even when LVP was there, um, there were people that were staunchly in one corner, like absolutely in one corner or the other, but it was also very clear. You're Camille's an idiot. You know, even though you might love her, you're like, she's a little, so it was good to see Kyle. You wanted Kyle to

27:57 say. things about her you wanted kyle to come for her whereas that's not necessarily the case right now because you're kind of like well you know i'm team greed i don't want that so that's why it was the other way around i didn't watch the lvp but when lvp was on i just know everyone loved her so much so it was very easy to dislike kyle if you liked lvp so also her fans were just fat crazy rabid it's the same thing it's like it's as bad as theresa judice's i was about to pay their neck with tree huggers yeah yeah And by the way, by the way, not going to get into it, but no, I get what you're saying. It's there. The fandom there gets buck wild. Yeah, absolutely.

28:41 But before we dive into like the entire premiere, if you guys could bring back any housewife and or any friend of to Beverly Hills, I have a feeling I know what Jeff's is going to be, but I'm curious, who would it be? Actually, no, you would think it would be Teddy, but I think for her mental health and for just her health overall, she's fine where she's at with two Ts and commenting. Like there was a point she was saying that while they were filming the season, she and Kyle did a photo shoot together and they arrived to filming and Erica and Dreet were there and like Dreet's like, Teddy, come on, come on, like put on those clothes. Come on, come and like jump in the scene. And Teddy was like, no, I'm not doing that. One, I'm trusting. Two, I'm not feeling it, Dorit.

29:25 So I think overall, it's so interesting because I feel because of her near -death experience, people are much more welcoming to Teddy, especially at BravoCon. She got so much love. And I think even she was like, whoa, this is weird. But I don't think that needs to carry on onto the show. I would say she's never going to do it because she's done with the show, I believe, when she says it. I would like to have Lisa Rinna back. same oh yeah i forgot about lisa yeah i i was gonna say brandy but oh god okay i'd like to see some brandy especially is not in a good place mentally that'd be some good tv though no it's really sad like mentally and physically she's not in a good place she needs help so she does not tv i think brandy two years ago i would have really liked to have back on i but like i think you're right i think reality tv for someone like brandy glanville is is not a great place to be because i think it takes every not insecurity that's not the right word but like it takes every like vulnerability you have and it exploits it in a way that like i don't think brandy glanville can handle because that's hard um Lisa Renaudel, a thousand percent. I would love to see Lisa Renaudel because that is someone who can do reality TV very, very well. And she gets messy and she gets nasty and I love it. And with her, I would like to see Eileen Davidson because they were good together. I love Eileen. And we're also,

30:57 we're soap fans. YNR all the way. Yes. Oh, yeah. We appreciate Eileen. So, yeah. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing, God, what was her name? Vidal Sassoon, Eden Sassoon. I would like her season again. I thought she was so, like, I didn't know who she was. I didn't know why she was there. But she is messy and I like her too. And a little bit of an oddball. Oh, I had a, like, she is odd. And, like, the, like, 90 -minute hug she would give. I love her so much. She had been through a lot of therapy. they were saying something i oh i heard a clip that uh and jeff lewis was talking to crystal and they were saying maybe she's coming back and i'm like why on earth would they bring crystal back i think crystal it's so funny my spotify rap was like oh one of the podcasts you listen to is humble brag and i'm like maybe twice um not to throw shade i just don't you know don't find them but i when i have listened to them i think she and cynthia have great chemistry i think she's great Off the show.

32:01 I don't think this was the appropriate group for her to be on the show and another world, another like iteration of housewives or just some sort of like other Bravo show about LA women who are rich. She would be great with her remaining, not the 14 friends who abandoned her, but like her other like super rich friends. So I think she's pretty good TV, but not in this world. But I think the takeaway from the Jeff Lewis was that she's probably going to be on a wife swap. housewives edition which makes sense she'd be good on that too yes yes very good on that actually like i think she's a person who because like the i mean the whole song and dance with y swap is like oh like i i leave and you learn a lesson like that's that's the thing and i think crystal is someone who can can like say things in a way that's like honest but like makes you think i i i i think she'd be very good at that actually yeah and she also seems like probably a very controlled kind of type a person so like throwing her maybe in a household that is more laid back would be you know similar to like wendy's episode or anyone's episode i feel like all the women were like so type a like melissa was just so like i do this at this time and that time and i'm basically and you know you watched all those didn't you i watched like i watched a lot of like the like stuff that came up on my tick tock and like i um it i don't know like i i need

33:34 to like commit a little bit of time to it like when i like after finals and stuff but i it's just one of those things where i i just haven't gotten around to it but like i've seen what i've seen on tick tock i'm like oh this this is gonna be good like it's gonna be funny like i think wendy acefo's is probably probably going to be one of the top ones for me because i i i love wendy regardless of like the insurance situation i love her so like i'd be very interested to see like how that whole episode plays out it's a good one that was a good one okay i think the best one was the first one though the angie one was the best one actually okay so now that i'm sad i i think i would really like angie's too i like angie k she's like i love her so much angie k cleaning a toilet i mean it just writes itself And wasn't it, like, an organic compostable toilet? It was, because her family that she was swapping, they were off the grid. Okay, that's, yeah, they were, like, in a cabin somewhere or something crazy like that. Yeah. Nice. It was, like, beyond the cut. Like, beyond the cut. Nice.

34:39 And I feel like she would need that stuff. I love it. Cool. So let's dive in. Did you notice how... It's fine. It's fine. You guys are hung over. I love it. Dear listeners are just like, when's the roundup happening? This is the roundup. The opening shots were like art. I feel like they went with a new production company or something because the opening shots, I've never seen them look that good on Beverly Hills. They're so pretty. And, like, the lighting was amazing. And, yeah, I think there was a different production situation going on and different cameras. I do feel like whoever it was watched a lot of Atlanta because there was so much slow -mo walking. Yes. I know that's a thing. But then you get Erika Jayne, like, washing her car. Like, I thought that was so fun. I was like, she's never done that a day in her life, but I love it. I'll take it. Well, I even asked, I was like, did she rent that just so she could wash it? And then Jeff's like, no, no, she actually bought that for us. I love it.

35:50 But then Dorit and Bose get the opening scene and I forgot how gorgeous Bose is. She is so pretty. She does not have a flaw. And I guess... bose and dorit have gotten super close and uh dorit and pk have not been having a great time with the divorce so it seems like bose has been a really like incredible friend during this experience which is not shocking at all like i feel like i would have expected that from bose but kyle has not been there as much and i feel like that's also not shocking just from my perspective also strikes me as someone who i think you burn her she's gonna she definitely holds a grudge well but she texted her four days later at least it was like within the week what does she want i'm gonna i'm gonna leave that alone i mean yeah one of my good friends took four days to text me you know after get in touch after i filed divorce that would be you know also though in her defense If I filed divorce, I would text my friend and say, hey, so I just filed divorce today. Just a heads up so you don't see it in the news. Right. So, I mean, I guess if you're not going to tell me about it and I find about it in the news, then you can wait four days.

37:06 But yeah, but at this point, Bo's air reads ride or die. So, you know, I think Bo's to her credit, I think she would be ride or die for many people that just, you know, for sure that gave her. respect and showed like kindness you know and like was actually genuinely warm and friendly with well yeah i think she says like in this segment you know if kyle were to open up to me i would be you know there for her and have a true friendship yeah but if not then we're just gonna be good acquaintances and that's valid that's a valid point you know but i think that's something like buzz would be right or die for me she makes me feel safe but yeah i think that's just great about bows and i think it's something when you see her as a viewer you're just like oh she's just definitely a warm person who just really wants to you know spread her personality and she seems very sincere like and even like in the scenes at the end like she's not bullshitting you know right she is who she is and she i think she is a good would be a good friend like a real friend in real life to these ladies Oh, 100%.

38:04 And the thing about Bo is like this, the one thing that keeps standing out to me about her and I don't know if it was an interview or like where I heard it, but like she talked about how when she took over as the marketing director for it was either Pepsi or Apple Music or Beats by Dre. I can't remember which one, but like she talked about it was like almost immediately after her husband had passed and she walked in and she was like, I can't lose. this has to this has to work because like i have nothing else right now and like i think that like she's been someone that's like torn down to a level that like i don't think a lot of people understand so like what you're seeing i think is like is is a healed person a and b is someone that like is like i i have to put like good out into the world because like i like it's just i i love everything about her yeah that makes sense i never really thought about that because you know you're saying teddy and you know going through what she's gone through i'm sure with bows and losing her husband and everything that's got to be a completely life -changing situation for sure yeah um but then we head over to kyle's house and they're like talking about uh the the oldest or not the oldest daughter but the second oldest daughter's engagement and the the daughters have grown up so much and like there's like they're all so gorgeous too like there's not there's not an ugly person like in this group like i like they're all so pretty just fortunately what'd you say like four shades of kyle basically yes

39:35 yes they and they all look like they could be kyle's daughter like and then we like get the um the the the wedding album from like kyle and mauricio's wedding and like i like you see kyle who looks much more similar to like she did in season one than she does now and i know all these women have had work and like i i'm fine like i love an elective surgery because i'm also on my third nose but like kyle never needed the work like kyle has always looked really good so oh yeah yes oh god like she's also beautiful um i couldn't believe when she points out that that mauricio was 25 i was just like first off is it just the old photo of it all that you're just like like that man is not 25 in that photo but okay he looks very young i think it's the old photo of it all i'm not used to seeing you know you see that old an old photo album that thick you're just like okay is he from the 50s um and then we meet rachel zoe and i forgot how much i love her like i used to watch the rachel zoe project like a million years ago i forgot i really loved her a lot i did too yeah i was like very much into i die and bananas and and all that i feel like i did when the show ended i did take the side of brad over rachel and that whole thing really so i'm a i fall like brad is just aside from being a great stylist um i think he's just really funny when he does like those uh parody clips on his instagram of like

41:06 beverly hills or other housewives shows and i love his husband gary and so i'm like very you know that's been following him on the instagram but yeah i haven't really followed rachel at all i remember yesha's the two sons and when it was announced she was coming to the show i'm like okay and it's like oh she's getting divorced okay but i love the old clips with her and and roger i think that's the next segment with her that we get to yeah oh yeah that's right they work together and oh they would fight sometimes okay yeah okay oh the i like i forgot how bad the fights were because like they were kind of nasty to each other like looking back on it like you shouldn't have your husband as your ceo of your company yeah and the clips they showed i never watched rachel's uh project i only ever saw it in clips on like the soup or things like that um but uh when they were showing him he they definitely on beverly hills gave him the air of what a whiny baby Like, is that how it came off on Rachel Zoe as well at the time? I think it was all, you know, thinking he was the man behind her, but she got all of the fame.

42:14 So maybe he was a little annoyed by that perhaps. Definitely. Yeah. They definitely showed he was annoyed. but so rachel goes over to kathy hilton's house to help her get ready for a trip and like the entire time she's doing this i like all i kept thinking to myself is how great would it be to have a friend like rachel zoe just to come over and like pick out outfits for you because like god damn she's like no i don't like that well first he'd probably burn my closet first first and foremost this is not a good color scheme yeah i have to say like the thing that stood out for me most in that scene was how normal kathy was being Like, how's it going? How are you doing? What's going off, Roger? Oh, that's tough. Like, she was being a really good talk to and not being like, let me cut these things.

43:02 Let me, here's some jeans, Kyle. I wonder if she got like media training or something. Cause like the, the differences we're seeing in Kathy right now, I'm just like, it's, it's wild, but I'm like, she's not. crazy right now but like and maybe this is just how she is one on one like instead of being in a group and like needing to pull focus but like I thought I thought like Kathy it shocked me that she was a pretty good friend to Rachel in that moment yeah very much so yes yeah um so Erica heads over to Kyle's house and they're getting ready for like a get together at Sutton's house and then we like go over to Sutton's house and like while they're also getting ready for it um that party planner was cute i liked him yes i'll agree with you on that do you need a party planner for like six people coming to your house i you know what i'll let sutton have that when you have endless amounts of well she's getting like thirty thousand dollars a month in alimony like i she probably has a party planner for like a brunch I feel like she's getting a lot. Yeah. But it was the premiere. It was for filming, for sure. So she wanted to put her best foot forward. I think the most interesting, it was like, yes, it's great. You're back together with your mom and you're in a good place, which that's really surprising that Hell's Wives helped you get her closer to her mom. So good on that. That can be her rose

44:33 of last season. And then Garcelle being the thorn. Obviously. Yeah. I think my... there's interesting thing from the scenes at the lunch at her house was talking about the annulment and how that's i wrote this down too i'm sorry how how is that a thing yeah how are you married for 17 years with three children and then the church is just like annulled i mean i know the catholic church can do some questionable uh things but that seems like marriages disappear that's just so weird i i wonder if it's like one of the things like um they talk about it on salt lake city where it's like you're sealed in the in the church of latter -day state so i wonder if it's like a similar thing to that where it's not like annulment's just the word that they're using that that's making it go away like it's like the unsealing or whatever um but when like when son was talking about this like i was just like i don't know that i would like the marriage is over like it's it's your divorce the divorce is final i don't know that i would care about like the the like religious piece of it because i i'm also not religious so like maybe that's why i don't get it but like the the one piece i did understand was where it was addressed to her maiden name and like that was like a real kick in the ballster like i get that because it's like oh i never existed to you like that that i will buy like yeah i was never i'm just sutton brown and now

46:05 i'm done with you he's an interesting fellow this christian i i don't know anything about him like i like i only know what i've heard about him on the show and i'm just like oh he's a rich dick like okay yeah right but like yeah in the way that like he just he's one of those stereotypical sounding just like i have money and i'll you know i'll get my way just rest assured and it's like all right that's gross did i knock the mic is this no you're fine okay okay yeah he'd tell us he couldn't hear us if it stopped recording oh i would i promise i would tell you yeah you're good um and then kyle announces that she has a party coming up and um we get like a flashback to kyle and dorit fighting because she she says that she's inviting tree and i forgot how intense that fight was like dorit like came out swinging like i forgot how crazy that guy They both were about to, like, come across the table. I was like, what is this, Jersey? Until they showed that, I completely forgot, and it didn't connect in my head that maybe Kyle was in kind of teaming up with Sutton to be kind of against Dorit, or at least for a friend in crime with Dorit this season. Because they were at each other. Yeah, I didn't think about that either until, like, I was like, okay, this makes more sense that maybe she's, you know, and Erica's there. They're trying to maybe not. rally forces but at least say hey you know if Dorit comes for us maybe you know we'll get each other that sort of thing so well I think Dorit's also probably thinking like I need a friend I don't have Garcelle so

47:39 I'm like that she was so like excited to see Erica in a way that Sutton's never been excited to see Erica and I'm like okay this is convenient but you know yeah um but they also get into a little bit how uh sutton fired her assistant avi and she says that nothing really happened i simply don't buy that like i i i think there's something else there that like either like she was she was mean to him like she was not kind to him and i like either he had had enough of that and like that was that was what happened or like there was something else like but i don't buy that it was just like a parting of the ways like She got asked that at BravoCon what happened because they left it on the cliffhanger. And some people are like, well, what did happen?

48:28 And she explained what she said. I just don't need a personal assistant anymore. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But you need a party planner for six people? Right. Right. My theory is he saw how good and well -received he was on the show and wanted a lot more money. And that's my guess. Just think about it. People are asking about him. Fans ask about him. I think one of the quirkiest things about Sutton was that she had this, you know. Yeah, butler. Yeah, man butler and helped her around. So that was kind of, you know, her sidekick almost. And so I think that might have been like, hey, you know, I want to get paid a little bit more. And she's like, you know, I may be on the show, but I'm not going to pay you more money just because you're on the show with me, you know. So that's my guess.

49:15 And that's maybe why she, you know. doesn't want to bring it up but also if i didn't realize he was with her for that as long as she said he was a long time i know so that's my guess is what happened and you know i have to imagine that if you did tell someone who has been with you for so many years that you know i'm not going to it would get messy for sure yeah transactional and less of a friendship yeah so well i think that's probably that's kind of where i felt like it was because i think avi realized like oh this isn't maybe maybe it's on one side or the other one of them realized like oh this isn't the friendship i thought it was and the other one was like oh this is just transactional to this person like that's i think yeah you probably have something there actually and there's probably a wicked tight nda or else we'd be hearing some stories about oh all the ocean spray in her purse oh for sure oh probably for sure i didn't think about that yeah yeah but i didn't realize that he was with her like while she was married even like that long i don't recall seeing him on her first season right she was like a friend so i wonder if it was one of those things where they were trying to figure out where she fit into the cast so like they didn't give like the rest of their lives because i because i they do do this where it's like oh you find out that this person has like a kid or like a a boyfriend or whatever because like i don't think i don't remember hearing about boze's boyfriend at all last year either and we like got more about him so i think it's like the introduction of of the person comes before you know anything about them and they also do like she was supposed to be full -time

50:46 her first season but Christian wouldn't sign off on having the kids on the show. So it made it so she could only be a friend because she couldn't show her personal story. Right. Sure. Which was then a horse. Like, thanks. We're glad you're a full -time housewife. Here's a horse. Hey, Kyle. What did you do? You got a horse. Oh, I think that was Kyle's third or Sutton's third season was when she got the horse. But anyway. That was a good line. And the fact that they opened with Sutton and the damn horse this season. I don't need any more of that horse. i don't need anymore like she was orgasmic like i'm on a horse y 'all um but then the picture of pk kissing another woman comes up and i didn't love that kyle immediately jumps in and she's like he didn't know that picture was being taken like i don't know i should like things Things can be left unsaid. But I think she checked herself and was like, nope, don't talk to him. Nope, nope, don't talk to him at all. He K who? What?

51:48 Nope, nope, nope. Lost his phone number, sorry. No jokes, no memes. Yeah, I'm still a firm believer of, you know, you can talk to people after they're divorced if you were actually friends with both parties. But I'm glad that Kyle is at least playing down that she might still be talking to him. Yeah, yeah. My other thing is like... Oh, go ahead, sorry. I agree with you. She could have kept that to herself of like, to his credit, no, no, no, no, no. No to his credit, no devil's advocate, just zip it. Yeah. Dorit and Kyle were very, very good friends. I don't know that Kyle was ever that close to PK, and I feel like what's happening now is she's becoming friends with PK, or her friendship with PK has deepened. because she doesn't like to read right now like like you know i'm being petty like i i didn't like what you did at the reunion when you exposed my text to erica and going into the next season i was like well i'm gonna be cool pk just to like spite her just be petty like just admit you're being petty i don't know i can see a little bit i can see a little bit like when they would do double date dinners which seemed to be really kind of the only time we get the impression that they would actually hang out is when Mo and Kyle and PK and Dorit would do dinners together. I could see because she's already like, I deal with, you know, Dorit all the time on camera.

53:16 I could see her being a little bit more attentive to PK during these moments and like listening to what he has to say and kind of connecting more with him because she already knows Dorit at that point. But it's so funny because she would, after she and Dorit have that falling out, she really downplayed how many times they did hang out as couples. Like she was like, we went on one trip. It wasn't that deep. Right. So. I think there was, like, kind of, like, they were close to a certain extent, but I think they all kind of grew apart in a bit. Like, especially when, yeah. I just know that, like, when we have dinner with other couples, like, if one of them is my friend I've known for years, I'm like, well, I already know what's going on with him. I'm going to listen to what she's saying or what he's saying, you know. And so that I could think be a thing. And also, this is the first time I think. I don't normally notice how long winded Dorit is. I know that's the long running joke and everything, but in her first, I think confessional or whatever, she was just like saying the same thing four different times. And I was like, do you need a thesaurus lady? Like, are you just backstage looking up more words? And I was just like, you need to cut it down. So I don't know if that's how she's always been. And now I've just noticed, but I feel like she's always been.

54:24 I promise. Yeah. I think somebody made the comment, maybe it was you, or maybe I just had this thought. For a long time, Dorit, people were not feeling Dorit and wanted her to be fired. And then she like came with this resurgence of like her first season in terms of how she was acting last season. And everyone was like, oh my God, we love this Dorit. And like, she's being, she's like giving it back to Kyle and the smoking in the car. Oh my God. Oh, the smoking in the car. She. she was relying on that cigarette like a crutch at bravo con like every time she opened her mouth there was something about a cigarette you're like oh for christ's sake like no one on the red carpet was like are you still smoking she's like yes i am and i'm like okay let's not applaud that do you like the thing about the cigarette like and i know it's like it's a it's a weird way to get there the cigarette i i swear to god i think it made her relatable i think it made her a real person because for a very long time dorit was like the most you know you aren't getting her real life you know like there was the financial troubles that we weren't hearing about you know that there was like there was a lot like that was just being hidden from you and then like i think you get the cigarette and it's like it's it was the same thing with luann in new york where like like the the walls come down a little bit and then it's like oh i'm getting a real person and i'm like and she's she just smokes like the rest of us i mean not me but like god bless like i but i love her that cigarette i think it's the greatest thing ever there are so many people with so many t -shirts of that picture of her smoking a cigarette on their chest and i'm like okay whatever um i put that cigarette

55:56 on uh the bestie approved instagram to like announce that we were doing this collab but i was gonna say i think she's really came into the season really feeling herself and feeling the love and attention she got and goodwill she got from the fans so i'm interested interested to see how it makes her act with this current season because she could be a bit insufferable of being like i'm the new fan favorite you know like i smoked a cigarette okay that's fair yeah and then the main road comment in the oh my god the main road i've yes i am a big fan of the queen of sheba comment though because my mom my mom would always say that um and so we head over to rachel's house and the producer asked her like do you miss coming home to a man and rachel just goes no i thought that was so kind i love her so much i didn't know they'd been together for like 33 years yeah like it was they were together adult life i think like 17 or 18 years before she had kids like it was they were together a long time that's crazy well yeah but uh yeah i thought she was being very open and you know like you do the math with the new girlfriend oh yeah like and i thought that was very interesting because it's like i get like you never like when you're going through a divorce it's like you don't want to like just throw a ton of gas on the fire of like people hating your ex but like i also think she does deserve to be honest about like what went

57:26 down and i think this is her way of doing it i i appreciate that yeah i don't think you know much like pk i doubt we're gonna see roger on the show especially when you have comments when she's saying basically saying that he spends more time with his girlfriend than his kids i was like oh okay oh that was that's right but like if that's if that's your lived experience you deserve to tell that but at least she's not she's not being nasty about it she's like it is what it is and i think this is what i've always really appreciated about rachel zoe is that what you see is what you get with her and like that's what i believe about her yeah that's true and apparently we're gonna get a lot of really tall platform shoes yeah lots of them i think those are in right now are they yeah yeah they're like it's a thing right now um bo's gonna do dinner with erica and they're i mean that is a cyber sore eyes they are i like i've said it every single time we've gotten into a scene they are beautiful like everyone on this cast is so gorgeous but um erica starts talking about how she was performing in london and uh it was about to be like the show of a lifetime she was gonna give the gays everything they wanted and she finds out about tom gerardi getting sentenced and i want to hear more about this like i want to hear more about like what that's doing to her because i think to take like let's just take everything she's saying at base value like okay so you are with a man you you believe everything's above board you don't know anything's going on you

58:59 know that you have your aaron brockovich lawyer husband is bringing in tons and tons of money and then like the wheels fall off i want to hear more about like the aftermath of that because i think that is so interesting yeah to have someone i think she's probably grieving you know of like yes one the the marriage and the man who she used to know who is not who she thought she knew Yeah, exactly. And then also the lifestyle that she once had and who she thought she was as Mrs. Girardi. And, you know, to now like be going off this new life and this new situation. And, you know, I think she's doing well, but she's talking on two tees about, you know, with Teddy about like being depressed and therapy and being in a really bad place and intrusive thoughts and all that. So, yeah, I think there's. People who think Erica is just bullshit and she's this horrible person, I think that's not true. I think there's many, many layers. She wasn't just this woman living off the riches of her husband. She wanted a life for herself and she loved this guy. Also, let's admit it. If you found yourself married to a guy with that much money, you were probably... I wouldn't ask a single question.

1:00:12 On top of it, you'd be like, I don't have to worry about a goddamn thing for the rest of my entire life. You would have... planned your dream retirement years ago and just been like i i'm set and to have all that yanked out from under you you know for whatever reason it's gotta be it's gotta be crazy that's true too but yeah what i will say though is like even more than that like i am so interested to see like now that like the case is closed now that like we've we've got not all the answers but all for the most part all the answers we're gonna get i i'm so excited to see like how the rebuilding is going because like what we've already seen like i mean she was at the lowest of her low like she was walking into like a tj maxx or something and like i remember that like that interview from a parking garage where she was like i don't want to like that's just like that she was mad and now we see her like kind of coming out of that i'm very excited to see like what comes next for her yeah now that now that her her backyard is remodeled we can get some real some real information it was the pool house the cabana the cabana thank you casita but that's on orange county not a casita yeah um they get they touch briefly on erica dating another guy and i think that's kind of exciting i i i want to see like erica kind of be a slut i'm going to be super real like i just want her like to like i want her to get into like her sexual bag because like i love her like she could do no wrong in my eyes um

1:01:45 but then they get into sutton and how it would appear that like a lot of her really close friends are falling apart or her close friendships are falling apart they're setting satin up to be the the villain this season also i pointed out to jeff it was i just don't think sutton has any friends in real life like i hate saying that but like a lot of good friends a lot of good friends because it seems like she was so excited to be filming again and have the ladies over and like she seemed especially chattery with them and when they talked about you know garcelle like what was going on with all that stuff she it just struck me as she just she gets her socialization through probably her charity work and like being on the boards of things and that's probably why she was so worried at magic mike about what the ballet would think because that's probably like her only interactions because it seems like when she's not with her kids or her mom or with the show she's sitting at home doing what i think she's excited too i think those are good points she's excited too because like the kids are now gonna be all gone obby's gone garcelle's gone so yeah it's like she's like i i don't know what to do with myself i i feel like when kyle pointed out that it was going to be an empty nest that it was it was half it was mostly shade she's like oh what are you gonna do now that you're you know you're all alone in this house and then she's turned it around to be like you know because i am gonna be two you know but it was definitely like kind of a dig at like you know what are you gonna do over here loner loser girl but i

1:03:16 like what erica and bows are saying like we need to see consistency from sutton like just be i agree you i hope she's funner this season than last because she came really hot at three for whatever reason i did find myself and it's really strange that i don't I liked Sutton in this episode. Really? I don't know why. I felt okay. We're in a good place. I don't understand why. Because I normally do not like Sutton at all. I think I'm still mad at Sutton for the fallout with Garcelle. Because someone that... I have nothing bad to say about Garcelle. And I think... What we're getting about the fallout of the friendship there, I don't think we're getting the full story at all. Because we're not really getting anything.

1:04:08 I don't like the assertion from Dorit that it was like, oh, was that more of an alliance or a friendship? Because I wholeheartedly believe Garcelle was probably a really, really good friend. that might have not been reciprocated and i don't like the way that they're painting garcelle because a she's not there to defend herself and b i always i like garcelle was one of my favorite housewives like i i don't like what's going on with her right now yeah i also don't like that everyone's all surprised well what happened there it's like what do you mean what happened she got fed up with you then she left and sutton should have been like wait one minute andy cohen and like gone after just make sure like are you okay like some sort of like i'm obligated to do this picture i guess maybe not because garcelle could just walk off but i'm gonna do this picture but i wanna make sure you're okay can we talk after this like you know i want yeah we kind of get confirmation of that being like exactly what you're saying being the case because jennifer tilly gets up from like some dinner or something and says this is why garcelle left because it's always all about sutton yeah yeah so just i'm on garcelle's side like a hundred percent of that i am in that regard i i agree because it's also it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that like sutton just wanted to be part of the popular girls and was going to kiss ass until she got there and watching that as garcelle had to have been absolutely infuriating yeah right

1:05:39 um But the dinner with Erica and Bose, I like Erica and Bose's friendship. I'm excited to see how this blossoms a little bit because I think they're probably going to be very fun together. Oh, yeah. Very cool. Yeah. I like there's like just two girlfriends gossiping. And they're two cool girls. Like they're just cool. Yeah. But then we head over to Kyle's party, and then everyone starts showing up, and the morally corrupt Faye Resnick is there, and I'm so excited about that. With the non -Doreet Doreet. Yes. If only Kathy had been there, she just said, I thought you were Doreet. Yes. Oh, God. I do love a Faye Resnick appearance, yes. I do, too. I think she's so...

1:06:31 i want more of her like i i like when we do get her when she comes out and she's like yeah i read about you in my book it wasn't anything pejorative like i the way she's just like it's so nasty but it's delivered in like a package that's so beautiful i love her so much yeah like they went up against like camille uh catherine and like on the reg and like she holds up like she holds her own very well yes i mean she is morally corrupt we want to give him to the oj of it all but she's morally corrupt yes but she's my morally corrupt bay resnick and i love it um so everyone's showing up um bose's hair is down to her knees and like I think it is so kind.

1:07:18 I love her so much. And like, she is never missed with the look. She looks so good. I love so much that they were like, I don't want to give too much Cher. Like, not that there's anything wrong with Cher. We love Cher. We love Cher. But then she showed up and we were both like, yeah, it's a little Cher. Had it just been like total mid, like center part down to her butt, then that would have been Cher. So she had to like do up a little bit to like make it less Cher. but like so she goes up to dorit and says like she tells her that she looks lighter and like the way she said it i felt like she was speaking directly into into dorit's soul like and it felt so kind the way she was saying it like i i love bows i i love her so much you're right she i think she is a genuinely kind person so you could tell that i don't know if you watched her show jimmy fallon on brand that's come on a couple of times like i haven't like paid it's been like background noise while i've been doing homework but i i want to watch it like and actually watch it because i think it's going to be it's very good it's so good because one you're seeing her like in her element talking about marketing but two she was like legit kind to like the contestants and like had great chemistry with jimmy and she's just like that's just who you who you see is what you see is what you're getting with those there's no like pretense it's just like hi i keep using this microphone You're okay. It's not normally there in your defense. I have all the feelings. It'll be a good sound effect. So, Dorit isn't looking for a fight with Sutton, but, like, I mean, she says she's not looking

1:08:51 for a fight, but I feel like it's very much like a knock -a -few -bucks situation. Like, when Sutton, like, says something, Dorit's going to be ready to fight. Don't start, and I won't be none. Yeah. and then sutton shows up and they talk a little bit about the annulment and like it just gets so immediately awkward like and i i think crystal had something when she originally said this that like you're just an awkward person like she brings an air of awkwardness to everywhere she goes it's like she walks in the scene and it's like oh oh something okay not like debbie downer but more just like it is awkward energy of like i don't know where i should go y 'all I don't know what to do with my hands. My hands.

1:09:34 I got this flower dress. I think it's also got to be one of those things where you're sitting there with a group of friends and you're all talking about a movie you just saw. And then that one person walks in and like, oh, what you talking about? And it's like, we saw this movie. And they're like, oh, well, one time I saw a movie. And it's like, yeah, but we're talking about this movie. And now you're all of a sudden talking about how you went to a movie 10 years ago. What the hell are you doing? yeah it's a non -sequitur you're a non -sequitur person yes and i i mean it's that shit's awkward very awkward oh yeah um then the girls get into the way sorry what'd you say no no i said i probably just did a sutton awkwardness right there myself but go ahead no you've never been awkward a day in your life maybe you're fine what would you think being a garcelle fan of how sutton handled them coming at her about carcel and like kind of defending her more so in confessional than necessarily in scene like in the crying and the what was your take on that i appreciate the way this is hard i appreciate the way she left the door open like because it was like i texted her i like because what i will buy is that it if Sutton did something wrong, I believe either A, she doesn't believe she did something wrong or B, she has no idea what she did wrong. So the way I look at that is she's coming at it from a place

1:11:05 of genuineness saying, okay, I, like I left the door open. I texted her. She didn't text me back. I texted her every day for like, for a while. And I didn't hear anything back. And like, girl, you blocked. Yeah. And, but then like, when you take it one step further and she's like uh how did she put it uh she said i i hope it was an alliance i because like i i do not like the way to read said that i think that she's trying to protect like what the idea of the friendship with garcelle was even if it wasn't if it wasn't portrayed exactly the way it was i think she's trying to protect that and i did appreciate that about sudden i will say that Yeah, I agree. When she said, like, you know, that was my best friend, I was like, I didn't get best friend. But again, we're only seeing a portion of their lives on this show. I believe that they probably were best friends in Sutton's mind, probably. In Sutton's mind. But I think maybe Griselle, like, towards the end especially, was like, I'm not getting that energy from you, so I just need to walk away from this because you're not giving best friend in this moment. You know, you're giving a little bit of try hard. and maybe that's kind of where we're getting the thing like when you when you take it forward to jennifer tilly saying it's always all about sudden maybe sutton doesn't realize that maybe it's like a non -self -awareness thing and like like as far as sutton was concerned they were best friends but sutton it was all about sutton and like she didn't like she wasn't

1:12:38 giving what's what garcelle needed so i'll Maybe there's something, and here's the thing, if Sutton can listen to Garcelle and hear what she did wrong, because it does sound like she tried to reach out and say, hey, what happened? And Garcelle just wasn't in a place to give that to her. If she's in a place to hear it when it does come back, I can get over being mad at Garcelle, or I'm sorry, I can get over being mad at Sutton for the Garcelle situation if she's willing to fix it. No, that makes sense. I agree. But then we get into the way Dorit is handling the divorce and telling the kids about the divorce. Dorit did not like this. No. Here's the thing. At some point, you have to tell the kids. The kids are little. Her kids are under the age of 10, I think, right? I think the oldest is 11. Jagger's 11.

1:13:35 I think it's 9 and 11. But yeah, still very young. it's still super young and like i don't know that they're old enough to conceptualize divorce yet and when when Mauricio and Kyle were going through the divorce, all the kids were, I mean, if not all of them, the majority of the kids were over 18 and out of the house. And she said, well, the girls just came to me and made me be honest. And I'm like, yeah, because they read the tabloids and they know what's going on and they're on social media. These kids are little, little. And like, however Dorit is handling it and however Dorit chooses to present it to her kids is fine. Like, I don't like the way they did this. There's no advice to give because your child is different from Dorit's child. And not just in age, but also just in how the relationship with their father or whatever. So I think it's just, okay, that's how you're handling it. Cool.

1:14:26 I know. It should have just been posed as, I'm just curious what they know. And then, good, you told me what they know. Now let's drop it. Right. I mean, I think the two things that are strange there is that Dorit said, oh, yeah, no, they know. But then, like, when they asked, well, how do they know? She was very cagey about. oh i didn't actually sit down and talk to them but they figured it out and i think you know had she just said that you know we haven't talked to them about it but they figured it out we haven't sat down yet but before you get there i also think just bringing the children into the conversation on a housewife show i automatically back up like oh they do not do you're not gonna win that don't talk about the children don't do it so i would just like it doesn't go anywhere good yeah i think it's fine to ask like how are they doing like how are they handling it that's where you leave it like you you leave it you back away and you say because like this is the thing is like it's such a sensitive subject like and dorit is also one of these people where if you ask her something like that and she feels an ounce of judgment against it she will come out swinging like because the one thing I do believe about Dorit is she is very protective of her kids and that's one of those things where I'm like not with Dorit baby not with her right yeah well it's like last year when like Sutton interrupted Dorit when she was talking about talking to the kids about what was going on and it was like it was very rude I also think coming into that scene when when Dorit said when but we said oh

1:15:58 you seem so like today and reach yourself was uh no i'm not good i think she came to that scene like not in a good place and not feeling like wanting to like deal with this sure so you know she just was like uh i don't want to deal with this but what i did like is how quickly i think just loves a new girl she like like synced up with rachel so quick yeah the same age but she was like oh tell me more oh oh it was like just like bows at that party last year you're like oh new girl yes i feel you our auras are connecting rachel is so chic though so that might be part of this and they look very similar but apparently they've gotten she's as chic as the wind chimes but this is i will tell you this is one thing i do appreciate about to read is like i don't feel like when a new person comes into the group the person is ostracized by to read especially because like this is something with housewives where it gets very problematic when the new girl comes because we saw it with crystal like how just how awful they were to crystal like i i think to read is actively trying to change that i think that's great yeah yeah be the welcoming committee because then you come out better for the fans too 100 it's just the difference it's the difference between when there's a new girl some people are waiting for them to come to come to me and show me why you should be on the show versus i'm going to come to you and welcome you on to the show yeah and i i can see the i can see someone being either way but i definitely prefer the way to reach i prefer the welcome

1:17:30 wagon to the like unwelcome wagon like vicky was notorious for doing that with new people she was like what are you doing on my show yeah like well and this is the thing is i appreciate the welcome wagon because i don't i don't buy the whole this notion of like at like figuring out why someone like has earned their spot on the show because i'm going to tell the producers figured that out like that's right that's none of my business like that's as far as if i were a housewife but that's just me no i agree with that but then rachel get asked to read like if she's bothered about pk and like the picture of everything and like and i i liked dorit's response to it but then she proceeds to say that someone tried to set her up with mauricio in i think veil or like wherever they were and rachel's gonna be messy like i'm so excited i was surprised by how open and like willing to like go there she was i didn't like i didn't think she'd be cold but i thought she would just maybe be a bit like i'm a little aloof here and i don't know you people as well but she was just like getting in it like yeah someone said marisa but i think she felt safe doing that because it was such a like well i obviously wouldn't do that right um and you know yeah it's a little bit probably stings kyle to hear that just thrown around so lightly But at the same time, it's like, well, no, I wouldn't do that because when I know who this person is and I know what's going on, like, I don't want part of that mess. I think Kyle's reaction shot was like, hmm, whatever.

1:18:55 I don't see it. I think Kyle was a little bothered by it for sure. Well, it was funny on Watch It After Live. She said, you know, and she's like, this isn't a dig to her, but she's like, she's too old for Mauricio. Because he's dating, like, 20 -somethings that are, like, the age of his daughters. And he has. Yeah. So. anyway um but that i realized we didn't get any jennifer tilly this episode that's right yeah yeah i think the next episode she she hosts the nude model party at her place okay no but still i would have liked to see her with the crown and being tilly that would have been nice we also didn't get the new girl who i can't remember amanda natalie oh man i think you're right amanda amanda or ashley something like that but like okay is is she um like is it gonna be one of those things where she's introduced like halfway through the season like they've done before because that's i i don't know like i i would i'd be very interested to see her and also her like her husband or boyfriend whoever she's with is hot and i want to see more of him I think she's on Introduced next episode.

1:20:07 I don't know whose friend she is, but I think, yeah, it's gonna be next episode. Yeah. Nice. But, like, so this premiere, and maybe we've gotten very used to, like, Salt Lake City and Potomac premieres where, like, it is high, high, high drama, but, like, I don't feel like I got anything here. And, like, I hope that, like... i hope they give us more this season because it does feel like we're gonna get something later but i i don't know like i i don't want to be disappointed by beverly hills again i really don't i can see that i felt like good about it i felt we got eased into the new season with this first episode and it was just like pretty rich women doing pretty rich things but then there's like shade here and there and some you know like follow up on things from last season um so i thought like it was fine for like the first episode but i think yeah for sure they definitely need to like bring more drama which i think is coming um oh yeah the next yeah i think they definitely like i said i think they want to make go into the season and make it a little bit lighter and not as you know gang up pile on and i think that's probably why they bring you know they probably realized it was a little too light and their people were avoiding stuff and i think that's probably why they bring in the new girl um because she does definitely seems to be piled on yeah i think everyone's coming but also i think a lot of the trailer as is prone to be is very misleading i think

1:21:37 when they show like kathy saying you need to know your place i don't think she's actually saying that to anyone in any real capacity she's just saying you know when that sort of thing happens you need to know your place like it's all these things are probably are definitely edited in a way where it's not going to be as nearly dramatic as it's led to be but So I'm still with you and wondering, are we going to be disappointed by Beverly Hills this season? I hope not at all. To talk about. Yeah. I'll tell you that Beverly Hills is probably the worst about like this, this whole editing thing. Cause like with, with Salt Lake city, with Potomac, with, I mean, even Miami, like you're getting, like you're getting chaos in the trailer, but like, you're still like when you see it in like in real time, it's like. Oh, I wasn't completely misled. Beverly Hills is bad about this, though.

1:22:27 Yeah. It's a little bait and switch. Yeah. Yeah. What I'm most interested in seeing is the friendship breakdown between Erica and Kyle and Dorit. Really? Yeah. No, Kyle was saying on Watch What Happens Live, she and Erica are not speaking to Dorit right now. So... Oh. Something goes down in the last group trip to Italy, and... Yeah, so that scene from the trailer is real. yeah yeah we do see because you can't edit dorit walking away from a fight that that is that just because we did see that yeah you're right yeah yeah so i want to know like what happens there and why they're not all speaking on camera yeah which now oh god don't get me started about off -camera like make it on camera but it also makes sense why it was so damn awkward at the panel because I'm fine with off -camera drama, but, like, I want them to talk about it. Like, because this is the thing is, like, I think what we've come to realize, like, and Andy Cohen has said it, like, he did not used to, like, breaking the fourth wall when they do it. Like, it's like, oh, this is what the real fight's about. Like, because I feel the same way about, like, what's going on in Potomac right now with Stacey, where, like, something, I wholeheartedly believe something happened off -camera with Stacey that they will not talk about. And I'm like, we see that you don't like her, and I don't buy that it's over this, like, this. the divorce not being real or whatever tell me what she lied about please like yeah there's more to it yeah yeah but no i think yeah i think if you can if it happens

1:23:59 on camera but you can you know explain it to the audience in a good way and like really rehash it i think that's that's best but yeah i think breaking the fourth wall is important it's so funny like they used to not even say at the reunion they would say oh when i last saw her or oh in new york and like now it's just like look we're doing a show here y 'all yeah and like and this is the and like i think they've come to realize this where they're i think and maybe this is like a me thing but and tell me if you guys don't agree but like i like when they're honest about being on a show i like when they're like yeah at the reunion i like that i like that they do that because it's like it makes it much more real yeah agreed now i think uh secret lives of mormon wives they talk about The fact that they're on a show. A little too much. And it does detract from it. So it can be done a little overboard. They also don't have a hiatus. They just keep filming and filming. Between seasons.

1:24:56 I think it's really mucking it up. It confuses me. Making it very muddy. The problem that they're running into. Is like. They're. genuinely not giving themselves a second to breathe because like the first reunion they had already recorded the third season like it was in the can ready to go by the time the reunion was going so they couldn't really get into the stuff in the reunion and then it's the same thing with the reunion that just aired and I'm like I think that's well it's too short and I think on some level it's good because it's like there's a lot of content there like these girls will never not give you content but like i mean you you have the fruity pebbles situation and then like and then they like i don't i haven't watched that reunion yet but like i don't know if we get into that and like it just it it all feels like there's you can't piece a timeline together because like it's all happening so right it's hard they really need to have uh on that they need to have a timeline of what when this was filmed and get that better in our heads also when you watch that reunion you're gonna be like how is this a reunion it was it was one it was like a it's spoiler alert it's a it's basically a sponsored ad for duncan i've seen that and that makes me mad it's just stupid i don't think stassi was a bad host i just think that she was really hampered in by what the producers wanted her to do and she's always a place so many places she could go before like saying sorry we got to cut this off to do some more spawn con for duncan you know if that's

1:26:30 the case either a make it a couple of parts or b like you have to be able to cut some of that stuff then because like what i do believe about stassi schroeder she is built for this like this is where she's going to thrive and i think that like now that she's kind of moved past vanderpump rules i'm very excited to see her like kind of almost past the torch to like new reality stars where it's like yeah tell me about your mess because i'm i'm the devil so like tell me more like i want i want more of that yeah it was funny because at one point she's like you know people she was talking to taylor before they started shooting and she's like you know people say that you're kind of like like me and they you remind them of me and and and taylor's like yeah i've heard that but she's like i've never seen the show like she's never seen vanderpump and it's like oh that's a different generation do you want to know what i will buy about taylor frankie paul though is i don't believe she watches her own show like this i think what you see is not a produced not a like not a curated it is that is taylor frankie paul and she's not interested in anyone else's opinion she's gonna just keep being her and i like it i want more of that she's just like i'm doing me and you know you catch it you don't catch it and yeah i i agree with you she's not watching that show like she's just like what she doesn't even have a hulu subscription I saw some clips on TikTok. I saw it on TikTok.

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