reality roundup: turning oranges into orange juice with Husbands Watching Housewives. (RHOC season 20 premiere)

WEBVTT

00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:17.980
Hi, I'm Travis. I'm Emma. And these are Husbands

00:00:17.980 --> 00:00:22.879
Watching Housewives. I'm Scott. I'm Jeff. We're

00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:26.760
in different rooms now. We are back with our

00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:28.940
returning champions, Husband Watching Housewives,

00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:33.140
and we are going to talk about the Real Housewives

00:00:33.140 --> 00:00:35.520
of Orange County season 20 premiere tonight.

00:00:36.420 --> 00:00:39.320
Very excited to have this conversation. Don't

00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.479
know how excited we all are about the episode.

00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.719
But super excited to jump in. Yeah, this was

00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:49.479
an episode that I was not necessarily looking

00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:51.880
forward to, and so I think I was pleasantly surprised

00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:56.280
by the outcome. But I think it's got some promise,

00:00:56.299 --> 00:00:59.340
I think, for the rest of the season. I want to

00:00:59.340 --> 00:01:03.380
unpack, why were you not excited about it to

00:01:03.380 --> 00:01:06.599
begin with? Part of it, Vicky's return. I've

00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:08.900
never really watched with Vicky, and she's never

00:01:08.900 --> 00:01:11.739
really like... excited me about Housewives, even

00:01:11.739 --> 00:01:14.159
when she's made appearances. That's part of it.

00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:17.140
And then also just that last season was so messy

00:01:17.140 --> 00:01:20.480
and not in a good way that like it just without

00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:23.340
Katie on and everything, like I just was not

00:01:23.340 --> 00:01:26.840
looking forward to them trying to make lemonade

00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:29.379
out of all these lemons they have left over from

00:01:29.379 --> 00:01:31.959
last season. Or I guess orange juice out of all

00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:34.739
the oranges they have left over. Lemons, because

00:01:34.739 --> 00:01:37.480
Shannon's thing is lemons. Not lemons in a bowl.

00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:40.450
Yeah. for me it was that like just the fact that

00:01:40.450 --> 00:01:43.189
there's like oh we just you know push kitty out

00:01:43.189 --> 00:01:45.930
but let's move on from that and act like a little

00:01:45.930 --> 00:01:52.469
thing a friend group and you know yeah that and

00:01:52.469 --> 00:01:54.689
it just it's just the energy i think in general

00:01:54.689 --> 00:01:57.450
of the cast just in all the previews we've seen

00:01:57.450 --> 00:01:59.730
is this very kind of humdrum and it started off

00:01:59.730 --> 00:02:02.129
that way with this whole like I don't know why

00:02:02.129 --> 00:02:04.329
we're supposed to bow down and be so happy that

00:02:04.329 --> 00:02:07.189
Vicky's back. Like, it's great that she's back.

00:02:07.209 --> 00:02:09.710
I know she represents a legacy of the show, et

00:02:09.710 --> 00:02:13.710
cetera. But I don't know that it needs to be

00:02:13.710 --> 00:02:15.669
built around her and all of us being like, oh,

00:02:15.689 --> 00:02:17.370
it's great. So the whole back and forth between

00:02:17.370 --> 00:02:21.150
Mexico and Orange County is like, whatever. But

00:02:21.150 --> 00:02:23.710
I guess it was a good job catching us up on what's

00:02:23.710 --> 00:02:26.770
going on with Vicky and her really hot, attractive

00:02:26.770 --> 00:02:34.259
boyfriend. you won't even pretend with me come

00:02:34.259 --> 00:02:37.520
on i'm not even a little bit i'm so sorry like

00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:41.240
i know that i have a niche taste in men and i

00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:43.300
know that like a lot of the time which is by

00:02:43.300 --> 00:02:44.860
the way something i want to address with you

00:02:44.860 --> 00:02:50.479
guys but um i i know that like a lot of times

00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:52.259
i'm like oh this guy like i climb him like a

00:02:52.259 --> 00:02:54.439
tree or whatever no i'm not gonna entertain that

00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.400
with this man because i it's it's associated

00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:58.520
with vicky and i'm like that's just like and

00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:01.819
he's not He just doesn't do it for me. Some of

00:03:01.819 --> 00:03:04.139
the angles, he looked like Lindsey Graham to

00:03:04.139 --> 00:03:06.360
me, and I was like, excuse me? What's going on

00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:11.960
here? It's not good. OC doesn't really have an

00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:16.020
attractive man, though. Yeah, OC does not have

00:03:16.020 --> 00:03:19.139
the most. Eddie's cute, though. I'll give it

00:03:19.139 --> 00:03:24.500
to Eddie. Eddie is cute. Slade 20 years ago was

00:03:24.500 --> 00:03:29.020
cute, I guess. um gina's man isn't that bad he's

00:03:29.020 --> 00:03:34.819
all right he's like teddy bear cute yes and gina's

00:03:34.819 --> 00:03:37.620
son that like called her a cunt or whatever in

00:03:37.620 --> 00:03:44.539
the first season he was also very cute i don't

00:03:44.539 --> 00:03:47.599
remember that it's funny like i totally because

00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:49.259
we were talking about like when we started watching

00:03:49.259 --> 00:03:52.139
oh see when i started watching i completely missed

00:03:52.139 --> 00:03:56.939
when gina and emily came on the show oh i thought

00:03:56.939 --> 00:03:59.060
we were talking about gina kehoe i'm sorry i

00:03:59.060 --> 00:04:01.319
never mind i'm going back like clear back to

00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:05.939
season one oh shane yes yeah yeah yeah yeah you

00:04:05.939 --> 00:04:11.360
know what uh gina is like gina's travis okay

00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:16.089
gina's travis's and then what is um the emily

00:04:16.089 --> 00:04:19.649
and shane emily so he's like i feel like if he

00:04:19.649 --> 00:04:22.149
got a hair transplant he wouldn't be terrible

00:04:22.149 --> 00:04:25.069
i could be a head transplant it wouldn't be terrible

00:04:25.069 --> 00:04:31.250
anyway before we jump into all this really quick

00:04:31.250 --> 00:04:33.649
what is the last song everyone listened to i

00:04:33.649 --> 00:04:35.949
knew you were gonna ask this question because

00:04:35.949 --> 00:04:39.430
that's that's what the besties do but i honest

00:04:39.430 --> 00:04:41.850
to god i have not listened to music in probably

00:04:41.850 --> 00:04:44.730
like three days so i have i'm gonna say nothing

00:04:44.730 --> 00:04:51.430
like podcasts and stuff that's fair yeah what's

00:04:51.430 --> 00:04:54.649
the last podcast you listened to uh probably

00:04:54.649 --> 00:05:01.189
uh but love it or leave it okay okay yeah jeff

00:05:01.189 --> 00:05:03.290
go for it i was listening to bonnie tyler because

00:05:03.290 --> 00:05:06.370
you know she died yesterday and holding out for

00:05:06.370 --> 00:05:08.629
a hero and total eclipse of the heart i listened

00:05:08.629 --> 00:05:11.790
to that earlier today it was a really just amazing

00:05:11.790 --> 00:05:16.629
80s dramatic songs and her raspy voice and it's

00:05:16.629 --> 00:05:20.430
sad she died you're compensating for scott not

00:05:20.430 --> 00:05:22.870
listening to music by feeling it extra deeply

00:05:22.870 --> 00:05:30.490
i really am emma what was your last song this

00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:33.589
is like no one's gonna know what this is but

00:05:33.589 --> 00:05:36.670
it's called california loco and it's from a disney

00:05:36.670 --> 00:05:41.269
short that jack is obsessed with and he's played

00:05:41.269 --> 00:05:44.430
it on my spotify because i just opened my spotify

00:05:44.430 --> 00:05:51.810
to see there's some other parent out there who's

00:05:51.810 --> 00:05:54.569
like oh i love that song it's a disney short

00:05:54.569 --> 00:05:56.829
called inner workings which is actually very

00:05:56.829 --> 00:06:01.550
cute but i like the kids songs that have ended

00:06:01.550 --> 00:06:03.910
up on the bestie approved playlist like that

00:06:03.910 --> 00:06:07.430
there was uh the the bluey theme song first of

00:06:07.430 --> 00:06:10.269
all is not a bad song to begin with and like

00:06:10.269 --> 00:06:13.069
it'll just randomly pop up on my shovel sometimes

00:06:13.069 --> 00:06:19.170
i'm like i like this what about you what last

00:06:19.170 --> 00:06:22.490
song you listened to my last song was the art

00:06:22.490 --> 00:06:26.980
of letting go by peter axon um it's Brand new

00:06:26.980 --> 00:06:29.740
on TikTok. I cannot get enough of it. Not 100

00:06:29.740 --> 00:06:34.300
% sure that it's not AI, and we just have to

00:06:34.300 --> 00:06:37.720
move on. It's okay. It is what it is. I don't

00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:39.860
know. The last AI banger you shared with us really

00:06:39.860 --> 00:06:44.500
proved to be that, a complete banger. Yes. The

00:06:44.500 --> 00:06:47.000
Lord of the Rings song, I think. Yes, the Lord

00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:53.779
of the Rings. Kenny was on this big Japanese

00:06:53.779 --> 00:06:58.230
hyper pop. cake for a while and then what's that

00:06:58.230 --> 00:07:04.310
song called that it was all ai the lord of the

00:07:04.310 --> 00:07:06.769
rings one no no no the one because you talked

00:07:06.769 --> 00:07:08.490
about this the last time i brought up disco lord

00:07:08.490 --> 00:07:10.730
of the rings and like i want to know what that

00:07:10.730 --> 00:07:14.470
song is called i have no idea but i can find

00:07:14.470 --> 00:07:18.350
out and send it to it's like on youtube i think

00:07:18.350 --> 00:07:25.680
perfect um and then one thing i want to unpack

00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.060
with scott and jeff because they mentioned this

00:07:28.060 --> 00:07:31.620
on their podcast is i think you guys were going

00:07:31.620 --> 00:07:33.420
into the finale or like the first part of the

00:07:33.420 --> 00:07:35.100
reunion of the real house as a rhode island you

00:07:35.100 --> 00:07:36.980
were like oh i wonder if travis still finds these

00:07:36.980 --> 00:07:39.000
guys hot because travis just says this about

00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:42.000
guys sometimes and i do and i i will own that

00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.819
a thousand percent but i will tell you before

00:07:44.819 --> 00:07:47.319
before you get there jeff jeff was like you know

00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:49.300
he listens to you he listens he's gonna remember

00:07:49.300 --> 00:07:52.259
you said that and i was like yeah and i have

00:07:52.259 --> 00:07:55.939
a running list of notes of like things like time

00:07:55.939 --> 00:07:57.839
stamps of like where i need to clip out for the

00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.300
podcast when we do collabs like i swear to god

00:08:01.300 --> 00:08:08.009
but um but i still stand by i am still into gary

00:08:08.009 --> 00:08:10.009
typeri i don't want to know how he voted i don't

00:08:10.009 --> 00:08:11.410
want to talk about it i don't want to unpack

00:08:11.410 --> 00:08:14.610
it i just want like i will not be looking him

00:08:14.610 --> 00:08:17.329
up on the federal election commission database

00:08:17.329 --> 00:08:22.110
of who he donated to it's fine um ashley's husband

00:08:22.110 --> 00:08:27.269
still into um the new billy uh kelsey's boyfriend

00:08:27.269 --> 00:08:34.940
into him Yeah. I can stand by you with those.

00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.659
Those are pretty good. Okay. I'll take it. You

00:08:37.659 --> 00:08:40.720
know who wasn't hot but is hot now post Rhode

00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:47.779
Island is Alicia's husband. Really? I'm not not

00:08:47.779 --> 00:08:57.559
into him. Show of romance. Oh. Yay. Monitor that

00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:04.429
baby. We love you so much. We'll be back. But

00:09:04.429 --> 00:09:07.629
yeah, no, I do appreciate that little call out

00:09:07.629 --> 00:09:09.549
of like, Travis just says that sometimes, and

00:09:09.549 --> 00:09:18.570
I do. Cool. I'm all for there being attractive

00:09:18.570 --> 00:09:21.029
house husbands on these shows, because we lose

00:09:21.029 --> 00:09:24.590
them sometimes, but a new batch is always good

00:09:24.590 --> 00:09:29.419
to have, rejuvenate the... we don't have a ton

00:09:29.419 --> 00:09:31.919
of hot house husbands right now though like it's

00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:36.059
rhode island is kind of it well i'm that's a

00:09:36.059 --> 00:09:40.600
lie um the a couple of the husbands on the new

00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:46.159
new york i'm very into um oh true i always i

00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.639
thought the size husband was hot but now i have

00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:52.879
broken up so that is sad sigh sigh and her husband

00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.460
broke up they're getting a divorce i hope she's

00:09:56.460 --> 00:09:58.960
a lesbian now i think she'd be a really hot lesbian

00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.940
honestly i can see the energy you're talking

00:10:01.940 --> 00:10:04.639
about yeah like and i feel like she i don't know

00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:08.539
like i i like the like queer fluidity on that

00:10:08.539 --> 00:10:12.659
on that like new cast i'm very into it also we

00:10:12.659 --> 00:10:13.940
haven't talked about this how do you guys feel

00:10:13.940 --> 00:10:16.740
about carol roswell coming back to new york i

00:10:16.740 --> 00:10:22.080
was never like a huge carol fan um and it's funny

00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.889
because we i've been watching or catching like

00:10:24.889 --> 00:10:28.669
old um moments of like old roni and i was like

00:10:28.669 --> 00:10:31.690
ah carol yeah so i don't know like apparently

00:10:31.690 --> 00:10:34.269
she fits in well that's what i've heard but i

00:10:34.269 --> 00:10:37.230
just i don't everyone just felt like hyped about

00:10:37.230 --> 00:10:40.629
carol and i just never saw it you know and i

00:10:40.629 --> 00:10:42.789
don't remember anyone ever being hyped about

00:10:42.789 --> 00:10:48.269
carol i'm gonna be so real with you i like even

00:10:48.269 --> 00:10:50.250
back when she was like best friends with bethany

00:10:50.250 --> 00:10:54.039
and like that was what she had i i got nothing

00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:57.600
yeah i mean i never watched when she was on the

00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:00.740
old roni so my only guess is that maybe if they're

00:11:00.740 --> 00:11:03.500
bringing her on because she's not going to be

00:11:03.500 --> 00:11:06.379
that performative as the others would be so it's

00:11:06.379 --> 00:11:10.320
kind of a link to the older legacy cast and she'll

00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.860
come on and still kind of be real whereas if

00:11:12.860 --> 00:11:15.759
you know full well you bring on any of the others,

00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:18.480
they would come on and just be completely Dorinda

00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.500
and Luann. I don't think it would fit well. I

00:11:22.500 --> 00:11:26.019
can't see Luann or Dorinda or Ramona hanging

00:11:26.019 --> 00:11:28.460
out with these women. But Carol, because she's

00:11:28.460 --> 00:11:34.240
so cool. Okay. And Carol's going to be welcoming,

00:11:34.379 --> 00:11:37.159
I feel, and open to meeting these people, whereas

00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:39.100
Ramona would just be like, who are you? What?

00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:43.279
Huh? What? i do agree with that i think she's

00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:46.480
a very very much a vicky in that sense but um

00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.840
i mean you know she's in the epstein files right

00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:50.620
like you've seen all this news right oh yeah

00:11:50.620 --> 00:11:53.519
well yes she gets called out like so the internet

00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:55.799
was saying that she gets called out for it by

00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:58.759
psy yeah like psy does not take her foot off

00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.759
of her neck the entire time like apparently and

00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:06.419
i'm excited about that yeah i'm into it me too

00:12:06.419 --> 00:12:14.379
but Yeah, so I guess The Real Housewives of Orange

00:12:14.379 --> 00:12:17.799
County season 20. This is... I mean, we've been

00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:22.419
putting it off for so long. We have. It's hard.

00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.779
It's like any premiere. It's hard to get settled.

00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:29.080
It's hard to get back into it because it's just

00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:32.240
like you've been left for... Although I was surprised.

00:12:32.299 --> 00:12:34.600
It's only been, what, like nine months or so?

00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.539
Since when? It's the shortest distance between,

00:12:37.740 --> 00:12:41.179
yeah. But still, it feels like forever. And so

00:12:41.179 --> 00:12:42.960
like it's just hard to get settled back into

00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:46.740
it. And I'm just not excited the way I thought

00:12:46.740 --> 00:12:49.659
I would be. But I think by the time we get to

00:12:49.659 --> 00:12:52.740
the end, I think we're set up for at least like

00:12:52.740 --> 00:12:55.279
people's behaviors have changed. And I think

00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:58.100
a little bit. And I think that that's good. Like

00:12:58.100 --> 00:13:00.379
we're not getting the same back and forth and

00:13:00.379 --> 00:13:02.860
just snippiness with each other. There's at least

00:13:02.860 --> 00:13:05.440
some sort of movement. And I'm enjoying that.

00:13:07.179 --> 00:13:10.559
agree with you on like we got we got somewhere

00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:12.659
at the end but like i have to disagree with you

00:13:12.659 --> 00:13:14.820
entirely on like it's it's hard to get back into

00:13:14.820 --> 00:13:17.279
it because i we've done and i was literally thinking

00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:21.639
about this like this morning we've done all but

00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:24.460
like two of the real housewife cities like like

00:13:24.460 --> 00:13:27.779
if we're going by like what's coming back we've

00:13:27.779 --> 00:13:29.919
done all but new york and new jersey at this

00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:32.879
point of like premieres with you guys i cannot

00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:35.659
think of one that i was not so excited to talk

00:13:35.659 --> 00:13:39.080
about except for this i mean even beverly hills

00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:40.899
that like i couldn't even get through the last

00:13:40.899 --> 00:13:45.519
half of the season like i was still excited to

00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:48.899
talk about beverly hills this one i'm like meh

00:13:48.899 --> 00:13:51.679
like and like which sucks because it's the season

00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.899
like this is the season 20 is like a big deal

00:13:53.899 --> 00:13:55.639
like this is 20 years of housewives and like

00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:58.960
this was like the one that like created this

00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:02.080
like this franchise that we all love and adore

00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:07.200
i don't know like these I don't know. I don't

00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:10.919
know. I hear you. Looking more forward to the

00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:16.519
girls trip. That starts next month. Do you guys

00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:18.620
want to unpack that one when it premieres, by

00:14:18.620 --> 00:14:21.360
the way? yeah sure okay cool perfect because

00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:24.879
i like i was like i will say like something i

00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:26.879
did put at the end of my notes here i'm i'm excited

00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:28.960
that like they're not doing the whole song and

00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:30.620
dance at orange county and beverly hills are

00:14:30.620 --> 00:14:32.600
terrible about where they like don't acknowledge

00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:35.159
the fourth wall like where they're they're this

00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:36.960
season it feels like they're like letting that

00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.019
go a little bit and they were talking about like

00:14:39.019 --> 00:14:42.460
what a disaster the like ultimate girls trip

00:14:42.460 --> 00:14:47.120
was was at uh at uh the quiet woman very excited

00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.480
to see that so i haven't heard anything about

00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:52.899
that that was actually like oh oh like i had

00:14:52.899 --> 00:14:55.059
heard nothing about any fallout at the quiet

00:14:55.059 --> 00:14:58.080
woman with uh tamra and shannon so i'm like yes

00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:00.779
let's get into this i haven't either and i like

00:15:00.779 --> 00:15:03.179
i'm like oh maybe i care more about this than

00:15:03.179 --> 00:15:05.820
like the show that they're actually on i don't

00:15:05.820 --> 00:15:08.019
know i could be wrong it must mean the gag order

00:15:08.019 --> 00:15:10.580
on talking to bloggers on orange county was success

00:15:13.230 --> 00:15:20.470
true i maybe maybe and i like and this i i am

00:15:20.470 --> 00:15:22.590
harder on them i think than like i should be

00:15:22.590 --> 00:15:26.049
because like this this opening was or this premiere

00:15:26.049 --> 00:15:30.480
wasn't trash but like We start with the cut -ins

00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.279
between the flashbacks of the last 20 years and

00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:35.179
what we're getting for this season. And then

00:15:35.179 --> 00:15:38.460
we immediately jump into Vicky and Shannon being

00:15:38.460 --> 00:15:40.720
wacky on the beach at Puerto Vallarta. And I

00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.840
think this is kind of where I had a bad taste

00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:47.879
in my mouth because I am so tired of these two

00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:49.620
women. Every time they get together, it's like,

00:15:49.659 --> 00:15:53.440
ooh, we're in a circus. We're just going to dance

00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:57.259
around. i'm okay like i don't need that like

00:15:57.259 --> 00:16:01.200
oh sorry no no please go ahead it's like they

00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.139
think they're lucy and ethel and they're just

00:16:03.139 --> 00:16:07.299
like like hijinks and oh i i felt that fall felt

00:16:07.299 --> 00:16:11.659
a little fake honestly it absolutely was you

00:16:11.659 --> 00:16:15.139
know i don't know why vicky went down so quick

00:16:15.139 --> 00:16:20.929
like where shannon it was just really yeah I

00:16:20.929 --> 00:16:22.889
don't know why she went down. I don't know why

00:16:22.889 --> 00:16:26.009
half of the episode, her leg was wrapped and

00:16:26.009 --> 00:16:29.230
it wasn't wrapped. And I don't know why. I don't

00:16:29.230 --> 00:16:31.610
know why, like, Shannon said Banco and she goes,

00:16:31.629 --> 00:16:34.850
you play Banco? I don't need it. I'm sorry. Like,

00:16:34.850 --> 00:16:37.950
I don't need their high cheese. Was it sushi?

00:16:38.169 --> 00:16:41.710
What's sushi? Why does Shannon like sushi? Shut

00:16:41.710 --> 00:16:47.289
up. Question. Have you ever been to Mexico? Many

00:16:47.289 --> 00:16:49.649
times. I love Mexico. It's one of my favorites.

00:16:49.899 --> 00:16:52.740
we are not let's go to mexico people we've only

00:16:52.740 --> 00:16:56.899
been on a cruise once but like that whole that

00:16:56.899 --> 00:16:58.320
whole thing where they're sitting on the beach

00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:01.700
yes beautiful and i don't know what beach they

00:17:01.700 --> 00:17:03.620
were on or if they're part of a resort or what

00:17:03.620 --> 00:17:06.079
was going on but to me the whole idea of like

00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:08.539
laying there and just having like the locals

00:17:08.539 --> 00:17:10.980
come up to rub your feet that just that would

00:17:10.980 --> 00:17:14.690
be weird me out what is that about so that is

00:17:14.690 --> 00:17:17.569
that is a super common thing on private beaches

00:17:17.569 --> 00:17:21.069
like that so a lot like a lot of what you will

00:17:21.069 --> 00:17:25.049
see in in the touristy cities in mexico is the

00:17:25.049 --> 00:17:27.710
like either the condo or the resort or whatever

00:17:27.710 --> 00:17:30.190
like owns like a strip of the beach and like

00:17:30.190 --> 00:17:32.450
it's just people that work at that associated

00:17:32.450 --> 00:17:35.789
hotel like just coming up and doing that and

00:17:35.789 --> 00:17:38.460
like i I don't know that I have a problem with

00:17:38.460 --> 00:17:40.579
like the idea of like, you know, people like

00:17:40.579 --> 00:17:43.240
in hospitality doing that. I have a hard time

00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:45.700
with white women being like, do you want to rub

00:17:45.700 --> 00:17:47.940
my feet? Like, I feel that's just icky to me.

00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:51.039
Yes. Yes. I didn't like that. Especially like

00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:54.119
these particular white women. Yeah. And then

00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:56.900
I'm also confused. Like is, is Vicky, why is

00:17:56.900 --> 00:17:59.220
Vicky of all people trying to get like Mexican

00:17:59.220 --> 00:18:01.380
citizenship? That's what it sounded like to me.

00:18:02.109 --> 00:18:04.650
It's I think she's doing the dual residency thing.

00:18:04.809 --> 00:18:07.529
So this has been an ongoing trope with Vicky

00:18:07.529 --> 00:18:10.869
is like Puerto Vallarta is one of her favorite

00:18:10.869 --> 00:18:14.549
places like it. Puerto Vallarta is to Vicky is

00:18:14.549 --> 00:18:18.130
what Atlanta and Miami are to me like I love

00:18:18.130 --> 00:18:20.190
those cities and it's like weird cities that

00:18:20.190 --> 00:18:21.769
you wouldn't think of like someone being obsessed

00:18:21.769 --> 00:18:24.809
with but like that's what Vicky loves about Puerto

00:18:24.809 --> 00:18:28.029
Vallarta. She has this bar like she talks about

00:18:28.029 --> 00:18:30.089
it in this episode this bar called on delays

00:18:30.089 --> 00:18:32.190
were like apparently she put put it on the map

00:18:32.190 --> 00:18:38.109
and that one pissed me off too but like so she

00:18:38.109 --> 00:18:40.829
buys the condo there because like she just loves

00:18:40.829 --> 00:18:43.069
being in this city i guess i don't know like

00:18:43.069 --> 00:18:47.009
again of all people i think would not like mexico

00:18:47.009 --> 00:18:49.990
vicky gumbelson would be one of them so i don't

00:18:49.990 --> 00:18:52.049
disagree because i would argue that she voted

00:18:52.049 --> 00:18:57.890
she voted for that wall i know well there's a

00:18:57.890 --> 00:19:00.809
time that like especially around the covid years

00:19:00.809 --> 00:19:02.890
where they would only go to mexico for their

00:19:02.890 --> 00:19:05.809
trips too even like without mickey like mexico

00:19:05.809 --> 00:19:07.390
and i think because it's obvious because it's

00:19:07.390 --> 00:19:12.109
so close to california mexico and oc or roc go

00:19:12.109 --> 00:19:16.930
to hand in hand so it's a thing so yeah i don't

00:19:16.930 --> 00:19:19.529
know why but very odd but i mean i guess that

00:19:19.529 --> 00:19:21.670
was a good a good way of updating us as what's

00:19:21.670 --> 00:19:23.450
going on in vicky's life because you know we

00:19:23.450 --> 00:19:27.359
haven't seen her officially in years but so i

00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:29.839
got that that was really important and really

00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:31.839
was because i wouldn't have been able to sleep

00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:33.819
last night without it it would have been awful

00:19:33.819 --> 00:19:37.680
truly needed that update but then we go back

00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.519
to orange county heather takes gina to dye scarves

00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.119
because or gina and tamra to dye scarves because

00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:46.019
she saw it on tiktok apparently and like i like

00:19:46.019 --> 00:19:48.240
that heather is an old lady that's like on tiktok

00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:53.099
i think that's adorable old lady Well, I love

00:19:53.099 --> 00:19:55.119
that Tamara accused her of just doing it because

00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:57.259
she saw it on TikTok. And then I love the fact

00:19:57.259 --> 00:19:58.799
that Heather was like, yeah, I saw it on TikTok.

00:19:58.980 --> 00:20:01.420
It's pretty cool. And then a producer told Tamara

00:20:01.420 --> 00:20:03.059
that that was the reason. And she's like, oh,

00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:10.400
of course. But then, so, was Gina not engaged

00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:13.059
at the end of last season? No, that happened

00:20:13.059 --> 00:20:16.279
during the hiatus. Got it. Okay. So then we get,

00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:18.259
like, she gets the chance to show up at the ring.

00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:22.440
I am... I will say I am excited for Gina. I think

00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.420
Gina was the underdog. And I know people give

00:20:25.420 --> 00:20:27.019
Gina a very hard time because she never has a

00:20:27.019 --> 00:20:31.640
storyline and she's poor. But like. I like her.

00:20:31.720 --> 00:20:34.420
I like the Long Island. I like the rough around

00:20:34.420 --> 00:20:37.980
the edges. I think last season she was doing

00:20:37.980 --> 00:20:41.099
a good job of getting in the story and actually

00:20:41.099 --> 00:20:44.140
standing up to Tamra here and there. And I was

00:20:44.140 --> 00:20:46.599
starting to like her more last season. And I

00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:48.759
hope that continues this season. I think Gina

00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:51.240
needs to distance herself from Emily because

00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:54.279
they just always end up being the same people

00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:58.049
to everybody. Yes. yeah i think if she can continue

00:20:58.049 --> 00:21:00.829
to like be her own person without emily i i think

00:21:00.829 --> 00:21:02.789
i think that girl will go far in this in this

00:21:02.789 --> 00:21:05.829
business and i here's the other thing too i like

00:21:05.829 --> 00:21:09.230
emily also like i like them separately i like

00:21:09.230 --> 00:21:13.170
them together in small doses but like i think

00:21:13.170 --> 00:21:15.329
they can both carry their own i think they just

00:21:15.329 --> 00:21:17.410
have it's they they have a rough time because

00:21:17.410 --> 00:21:21.230
i think first of all like if you look at Emily

00:21:21.230 --> 00:21:25.089
in my mind the the way she talks and like just

00:21:25.089 --> 00:21:27.690
her state of being I you can't tell me her name

00:21:27.690 --> 00:21:30.329
like she doesn't have the persona of a person

00:21:30.329 --> 00:21:33.049
named Gina so like I have a hard time differentiating

00:21:33.049 --> 00:21:35.869
that but I like them separately I don't know

00:21:35.869 --> 00:21:38.329
like I I want I want to see what they bring now

00:21:38.329 --> 00:21:41.910
because it does seem like at some point in the

00:21:41.910 --> 00:21:43.809
previous season it felt like they were splitting

00:21:43.809 --> 00:21:47.190
a little bit and I think that I I want to see

00:21:47.190 --> 00:21:53.380
where this goes a little bit I feel like Jenna

00:21:53.380 --> 00:21:55.759
could survive without Emily. And I don't advocate

00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:58.220
for anyone being fired. After last season, I

00:21:58.220 --> 00:22:01.000
had a really hard time with Emily. And I feel

00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.220
her anger just kind of comes out of her pores.

00:22:04.980 --> 00:22:07.500
And she's really trying hard to stamp it down.

00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:10.019
But it flares up. And definitely with Katie,

00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:13.079
just after the way she treated her, I just cannot

00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:16.039
get past that. And I hold on to that. And I just

00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:21.220
can't like her. That's fair. I stopped watching

00:22:21.220 --> 00:22:23.920
Orange County before that even happened, so I

00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:25.720
don't have that context, but that's completely

00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:29.700
fair because I do remember the TikToks of Emily

00:22:29.700 --> 00:22:33.279
being terrible to Katie, so that is fair. I will

00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:36.200
give you that. Yeah. After the lie detector test,

00:22:36.380 --> 00:22:38.720
I just lost a lot of... Not that I had a ton

00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:40.420
of respect, but I lost a ton of... They did a

00:22:40.420 --> 00:22:45.019
lie detector test? What do we think about...

00:22:45.019 --> 00:22:48.539
What? I'm going to kill myself. I didn't know

00:22:48.539 --> 00:22:51.299
they did the lie detector test. They proved,

00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.619
look at these quote fingers, proved that Katie

00:22:54.619 --> 00:22:58.920
was lying from this, like, and there's a whole

00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:00.859
thing. We'll fill you in, but like, there's a

00:23:00.859 --> 00:23:05.180
whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they hired actors

00:23:05.180 --> 00:23:07.359
doing lie detector tests as though that's going

00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:08.759
to prove everything. It's just the dumbest thing

00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:12.930
ever. Yeah. What do we think about Travis, Gina's

00:23:12.930 --> 00:23:16.450
fiancé, doing the whole placeholder ring? I thought

00:23:16.450 --> 00:23:20.150
that was pretty cool. He knew that she might

00:23:20.150 --> 00:23:22.789
have some opinions about it, so he got her a

00:23:22.789 --> 00:23:25.069
fake one so they could work on the real one together.

00:23:26.150 --> 00:23:29.730
I don't think that's a terrible idea. I think

00:23:29.730 --> 00:23:35.349
that if you know you were going to be in a scenario

00:23:35.349 --> 00:23:38.099
where the person might... care a little more

00:23:38.099 --> 00:23:42.119
about the ring than than you would expect i think

00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:43.640
that's a cool idea like and if you have money

00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:46.740
to do it whatever that's awesome right was it

00:23:46.740 --> 00:23:48.440
who was making fun of like saying that's that

00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:50.660
looks fake oh it's heather it was saying like

00:23:50.660 --> 00:23:53.720
it it looked like it could be yeah and she's

00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:55.579
him gina's like nah this thing's fake as hell

00:23:55.579 --> 00:23:59.819
i think she said fake as fuck actually I appreciate

00:23:59.819 --> 00:24:02.960
Gina being willing to say that because like so

00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:04.579
many of these women are like, no, no, no, no,

00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:07.740
no. Like the diamond, like no one cares. No one

00:24:07.740 --> 00:24:14.420
actually cares. No. Um, so there, Gina gets to

00:24:14.420 --> 00:24:17.019
show off that her rainbow ring. I'm excited for

00:24:17.019 --> 00:24:21.140
her. Um, Tamara walks in like, and like, just

00:24:21.140 --> 00:24:23.880
like, she looks like a demon walking in and she

00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:25.640
has a case of a lot of new with her. And I love

00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:28.509
that so much. Cause I'm just like, i appreciate

00:24:28.509 --> 00:24:30.930
that she's drinking a case of alani new at a

00:24:30.930 --> 00:24:34.750
sitting of at the scarf painting and then the

00:24:34.750 --> 00:24:37.049
painting guy announces that everyone is an artistic

00:24:37.049 --> 00:24:39.609
rock star but like i had to rewind it like three

00:24:39.609 --> 00:24:40.990
or four times because i swear to god i thought

00:24:40.990 --> 00:24:43.849
he said autistic rock stars i was like hell yeah

00:24:43.849 --> 00:24:49.529
i mean both can be true at the same time i feel

00:24:49.529 --> 00:24:55.009
seen i love that um Also, I could be completely

00:24:55.009 --> 00:24:57.390
off base about this. Hi, Emma. Welcome back.

00:24:57.650 --> 00:25:03.769
Welcome back. Let's see if it sticks. I could

00:25:03.769 --> 00:25:06.190
be completely off base here, and I want to know

00:25:06.190 --> 00:25:09.170
if you guys agree with me. I think Tamra looks

00:25:09.170 --> 00:25:11.890
really, really good this season. Like, her work

00:25:11.890 --> 00:25:17.309
looks right to me. Her makeup didn't look quite

00:25:17.309 --> 00:25:19.490
right to me, but everything else looks good,

00:25:19.549 --> 00:25:23.400
I think. Yes, I think facially, yeah. I think

00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:25.240
something was off about the makeup. It was too

00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:28.000
heavy and confessional. Because when I see her

00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:32.400
online on Instagram, she looks fine and herself.

00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:40.279
But yeah. She's looking good. Absolutely. Would

00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:44.119
you go scarf dyeing yourself? I thought that

00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:47.900
looked kind of fun. I love fun things like that.

00:25:48.589 --> 00:25:51.190
I would do it with Emma. There's no way you could

00:25:51.190 --> 00:25:53.670
get me to do it by myself. You wouldn't first

00:25:53.670 --> 00:25:58.630
date that shit or something? I would go to Color

00:25:58.630 --> 00:26:02.950
Me Mine by myself. Would you really? I love stuff

00:26:02.950 --> 00:26:07.210
like that. I don't know. I have to have a person

00:26:07.210 --> 00:26:09.450
to enjoy it that way. Either you or Jackie are

00:26:09.450 --> 00:26:12.450
the only people I would enjoy going with. I'd

00:26:12.450 --> 00:26:18.269
enjoy it with my AirPods too. There may still

00:26:18.269 --> 00:26:20.990
be one of those pottery, like make your own pottery

00:26:20.990 --> 00:26:23.569
studios here in town. And we've always walked

00:26:23.569 --> 00:26:26.609
past it. But we've never done it. We should do

00:26:26.609 --> 00:26:29.529
that sometime, Jeff. That'd be fun. You should.

00:26:29.710 --> 00:26:31.769
It sounds like it's not going to be fun until

00:26:31.769 --> 00:26:35.500
you lock in on that plate. I think so. I think

00:26:35.500 --> 00:26:38.200
so. But I was amazed with this whole scarf thing

00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.180
that, like, when they were silk screening it,

00:26:40.220 --> 00:26:41.940
I guess, and, like, pulling all the dye through

00:26:41.940 --> 00:26:44.039
the water, I thought, oh, for sure they're going

00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:45.500
to dip something in that, and it's going to come

00:26:45.500 --> 00:26:48.299
out looking like ass. And no, it actually looked

00:26:48.299 --> 00:26:52.140
really good. I wanted more information besides,

00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:54.859
we're going to put this in a Ziploc bag, and

00:26:54.859 --> 00:26:57.220
here's some crudités that Heather brought from

00:26:57.220 --> 00:27:03.380
Safeway. Here's a snack. we got like three seconds

00:27:03.380 --> 00:27:05.259
of the actual like what they were doing and then

00:27:05.259 --> 00:27:08.799
it was like okay bye let's do this place here

00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:16.730
we call it the break room but so like during

00:27:16.730 --> 00:27:18.750
their little time in the break room gina and

00:27:18.750 --> 00:27:20.710
heather get the chance to like hold tamra's feet

00:27:20.710 --> 00:27:24.549
to the fire a little bit and i guess or tamra

00:27:24.549 --> 00:27:27.269
was on the jeff lewis radio show a couple of

00:27:27.269 --> 00:27:28.829
weeks before this saying that she was gonna burn

00:27:28.829 --> 00:27:30.670
it all down and then they bring up the ultimate

00:27:30.670 --> 00:27:33.509
girls trip thing which i really appreciated and

00:27:33.509 --> 00:27:37.230
tamra can't just say yeah i've been mad at you

00:27:37.230 --> 00:27:39.470
guys like she's like no no that was all a joke

00:27:39.470 --> 00:27:44.039
like come on tamra like you you you fancy yourself

00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:46.859
this woman that is so real and so honest and

00:27:46.859 --> 00:27:49.700
so like forthright and like you just can't do

00:27:49.700 --> 00:27:52.460
it well she does both she's like oh you know

00:27:52.460 --> 00:27:54.900
that was just joking but then she also said i

00:27:54.900 --> 00:27:57.859
was it was all of you against me and then you

00:27:57.859 --> 00:27:59.980
went to dinner without me even though it says

00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:02.180
oh no i invited you and it's like why would she

00:28:02.180 --> 00:28:04.400
want to go to a dinner even if you invited her

00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:08.920
with freaking gretchen you know so i think you

00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:10.920
know she was like i was left crying and you're

00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.099
taking pictures and heather was saying like i

00:28:13.099 --> 00:28:14.700
don't know who's in that picture i'm like it's

00:28:14.700 --> 00:28:17.519
not besides the point heather heather knew exactly

00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:20.779
who was in that picture let's let's do you think

00:28:20.779 --> 00:28:23.460
that heather dubrow has ever not been aware of

00:28:23.460 --> 00:28:26.400
every single person in her line of sight like

00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.339
come on she knew exactly what was happening and

00:28:30.339 --> 00:28:32.039
i will and heather is smarter than that like

00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.559
she i think she was aware enough to be like i

00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:36.039
know how tamra's gonna come out looking this

00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:39.380
season and i don't look that bad so here we go

00:28:39.380 --> 00:28:41.500
yeah i mean by the end of the season there's

00:28:41.500 --> 00:28:44.579
already like like all the women and then tamra

00:28:44.579 --> 00:28:46.799
on island on an island and gina on an island

00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:52.680
and then we just like ixnay uh not gina sorry

00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:57.920
katie katie katie on island tamron island they

00:28:57.920 --> 00:28:59.519
kind of came together but then they just like

00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.700
let go of katie and then it's like tamra floating

00:29:01.700 --> 00:29:06.299
away so which is par for the course with tamra

00:29:06.299 --> 00:29:09.119
by the way do we not remember there was i i don't

00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:10.759
they were in bali i think because it was the

00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.880
season that that uh the girl from kentucky was

00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:18.220
on that show and and tamra's just running away

00:29:18.220 --> 00:29:20.359
saying i'm never speaking to you guys again and

00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:22.539
then she's back the next day like this is what

00:29:22.539 --> 00:29:28.539
we do tamra yeah it was the thing is because

00:29:28.539 --> 00:29:30.180
you didn't see it so at the end of the season

00:29:30.180 --> 00:29:33.079
they accused her of leaking stuff to bloggers

00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.059
and they had this proof and it was all a bunch

00:29:37.059 --> 00:29:39.960
of bullshit and it was like basically like production

00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.319
was leading the way and the other women were

00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.339
like yes you've done this thing you leaked our

00:29:44.339 --> 00:29:46.740
season and tam was like i didn't do it and like

00:29:46.740 --> 00:29:50.789
there's basically like shove her off and So she

00:29:50.789 --> 00:29:53.250
broke down, and by, you know, the last scene

00:29:53.250 --> 00:29:55.630
we see is, like, her breaking down and Katie

00:29:55.630 --> 00:29:57.509
trying to comfort her, yada, yada, yada, at the

00:29:57.509 --> 00:30:00.089
reunion. And now cut to this, and she's like,

00:30:00.230 --> 00:30:05.630
you know, you guys really, yeah, yeah. So, okay,

00:30:05.710 --> 00:30:07.410
so this is, like, picking up where they left

00:30:07.410 --> 00:30:10.430
off from the reunion, kind of. Okay, okay, okay,

00:30:10.490 --> 00:30:16.410
okay. Yeah. Wow. Can I say something, though,

00:30:16.490 --> 00:30:20.910
about the leaking to bloggers? Yes, of course.

00:30:21.049 --> 00:30:28.130
Keep doing it. I agree. Go on, Robin Jr. It makes

00:30:28.130 --> 00:30:32.829
them more money at the end of the day. People

00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:37.490
love tea and they love to click on tea. It does

00:30:37.490 --> 00:30:40.890
until it starts ruining any sort of like what's

00:30:40.890 --> 00:30:46.329
coming next. Yeah, it's like a spoiler. Or when

00:30:46.329 --> 00:30:49.500
it becomes all about the fact that they're going

00:30:49.500 --> 00:30:53.279
and leaking all this stuff, which every one of

00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.079
the franchises that have done that, it's just

00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.460
gotten to be so like, okay, I don't want to watch

00:30:57.460 --> 00:31:02.279
this shit anymore. Yeah, I feel like they should

00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:05.380
be more judicious, and dare I say, more sneaky

00:31:05.380 --> 00:31:07.140
about it, because as soon as someone gets caught,

00:31:07.259 --> 00:31:10.680
the fun's over. I love your take is like, they

00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.240
should just be better at doing it. Seriously,

00:31:13.579 --> 00:31:17.480
that is how I feel. do you remember the season

00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:21.720
of salt lake city where i don't remember it was

00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:24.579
whitney rose in the car with justin and she was

00:31:24.579 --> 00:31:27.039
on the phone with that little boy adam from like

00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:31.200
yeah we don't know what i'm talking about up

00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:34.160
and adam yeah yes up and adam thank you like

00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.619
sorry i like you referred to him as that little

00:31:37.619 --> 00:31:41.259
boy adam little boy you know who i'm talking

00:31:41.259 --> 00:31:44.630
about yeah i know that's why it's funny yes That

00:31:44.630 --> 00:31:47.329
little boy. Like, I feel like that was a bridge

00:31:47.329 --> 00:31:50.849
too far. I don't care about anything up and until

00:31:50.849 --> 00:31:53.509
that, though. Like, I'm fine. I don't want to

00:31:53.509 --> 00:31:57.009
see it being leaked in real time, though. That's

00:31:57.009 --> 00:31:59.829
not interesting to me. No, yeah. There needs

00:31:59.829 --> 00:32:04.930
to be a caveat. Or, like, leak tea about stuff

00:32:04.930 --> 00:32:08.779
that's already happened. that would be interesting

00:32:08.779 --> 00:32:11.900
if it if it were like this is what you saw on

00:32:11.900 --> 00:32:15.180
tv but like here are the details you didn't know

00:32:15.180 --> 00:32:18.500
you know i love that right call the little boy

00:32:18.500 --> 00:32:20.960
for that that's fine but this is what they edited

00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:24.380
out and now i can show you what my reaction was

00:32:24.380 --> 00:32:29.259
and you know all that i don't like that the producers

00:32:29.259 --> 00:32:32.680
make it a plot point oh my god look at that little

00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:39.940
cat Is it the boy or girl? The girl. What's her

00:32:39.940 --> 00:32:45.460
name? Gabrielle. We call her Gabs. If you ever

00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:49.680
need a sitter, I will fly to California myself.

00:32:49.900 --> 00:32:53.329
Deal. It's a deal. Sorry, she's usually not this

00:32:53.329 --> 00:32:55.470
close where I can just pick her up, but she was

00:32:55.470 --> 00:32:57.789
rolling around over here out of camera sight,

00:32:57.950 --> 00:33:00.430
and I was like, I gotta pick her up. You've got

00:33:00.430 --> 00:33:03.670
to. My dog keeps knocking over my computer. That's

00:33:03.670 --> 00:33:07.369
why you see me swiping at him. Oh. He's like

00:33:07.369 --> 00:33:10.450
a rag dog. He loves it. He's exactly where he

00:33:10.450 --> 00:33:16.740
wants to be. Oh, puppy. Puppy. sorry I helped

00:33:16.740 --> 00:33:18.559
I helped derail the conversation that's what

00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:20.400
I do no it's beautiful I love it I mean you were

00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:21.720
gonna say something you don't like that the producers

00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.440
make it a plot point yeah I feel like if they

00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:30.440
just would not talk about it on the show that

00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.779
would be so much better but I wonder if they

00:33:32.779 --> 00:33:36.410
kind of do that as a punishment to that person

00:33:36.410 --> 00:33:39.210
you know what i mean i think they do because

00:33:39.210 --> 00:33:42.269
i think we're probably emma we are in the minority

00:33:42.269 --> 00:33:45.549
of like being interested about like the bloggers

00:33:45.549 --> 00:33:47.809
and like the behind the scenes of it because

00:33:47.809 --> 00:33:51.910
i do think it turns a lot of the fan base against

00:33:51.910 --> 00:33:54.930
like that person who's like oh you're leaking

00:33:54.930 --> 00:33:57.210
to bloggers because like that that's a big thing

00:33:57.210 --> 00:33:59.529
on atlanta too like where they get mad about

00:33:59.529 --> 00:34:02.089
the bloggers and i'm like don't be mad it's okay

00:34:03.470 --> 00:34:05.329
Shamia didn't have anything else to do that day.

00:34:05.390 --> 00:34:08.150
I don't know what to tell you. Also, like, are

00:34:08.150 --> 00:34:11.769
they not signing NDAs or something? Oh, they

00:34:11.769 --> 00:34:17.090
absolutely are. So then, let's do them. I don't

00:34:17.090 --> 00:34:21.210
know. It's just, I don't like watching that plot

00:34:21.210 --> 00:34:26.369
point on every series of Housewives. Agreed.

00:34:26.369 --> 00:34:29.349
I agree. I don't like when the bloggers, which...

00:34:29.610 --> 00:34:30.989
You got to stop using that term because it's

00:34:30.989 --> 00:34:34.510
not 2004. They keep doing it though. When they

00:34:34.510 --> 00:34:37.230
become part of the story, the content creators.

00:34:37.949 --> 00:34:42.269
Yeah. Yeah. I just, yeah, it's funny too. You

00:34:42.269 --> 00:34:44.050
can tell how long it's been going on because

00:34:44.050 --> 00:34:46.570
they're still calling them bloggers. Right. Like

00:34:46.570 --> 00:34:54.360
we're back in 2006. Yeah. But we go back to Puerto

00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.340
Vallarta where Vicky's running around with her

00:34:56.340 --> 00:34:58.599
knee wrap because she heard it, which I'm going

00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.639
to tell you right now. Vicky was a thousand percent

00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:04.320
that girl in high school who would like wear

00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.400
the like hospital bracelet to school the next

00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.699
day after like if she went to the emergency room,

00:35:08.739 --> 00:35:12.019
she's like, don't ask me any questions. I know

00:35:12.019 --> 00:35:16.420
she was that girl. Oh, yeah. A little performative

00:35:16.420 --> 00:35:21.059
knee brace. Protect those knees. No argument

00:35:21.059 --> 00:35:24.769
here. Did you talk about how much I loved Puerto

00:35:24.769 --> 00:35:28.269
Vallarta before this? We talked about how we're

00:35:28.269 --> 00:35:31.090
not big Mexico people. And so we were wondering,

00:35:31.170 --> 00:35:34.210
is it normal for randos to walk up and offer

00:35:34.210 --> 00:35:39.590
to rub your feet on the beach? No. Would you

00:35:39.590 --> 00:35:43.090
get your feet rubbed on the beach? Would you,

00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:50.750
Emma? Is he hot and for how much? It's those

00:35:50.750 --> 00:35:57.519
two guys that walked up. Those guys. Yeah. Part

00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.760
of me, one thing, I don't enjoy being a tourist.

00:36:01.980 --> 00:36:05.139
And nothing screams more like, hey, gringo American,

00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:09.280
let us do this for you. And it's like, nah, I

00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.260
don't want that. And that's really what it comes

00:36:11.260 --> 00:36:14.639
down to for me. I don't like that vibe at all.

00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.920
I have never come across that in Puerto Vallarta,

00:36:18.019 --> 00:36:24.150
but I've only been there once. once I don't know

00:36:24.150 --> 00:36:26.949
in our defense we've never been we've only been

00:36:26.949 --> 00:36:29.329
to Ensenada so maybe there's maybe there's a

00:36:29.329 --> 00:36:31.829
little bit of a difference I mean if I lived

00:36:31.829 --> 00:36:34.409
in California I would probably lose the allure

00:36:34.409 --> 00:36:37.550
of Mexico too because you're like I'm basically

00:36:37.550 --> 00:36:42.860
here right yeah Well, so I don't like private.

00:36:42.980 --> 00:36:45.719
So this is the thing on private beaches is what

00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.280
we were talking about, Emma, like earlier. And

00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.820
I don't like the private beach thing because

00:36:50.820 --> 00:36:54.119
it feels it just screams touristy. And it's like

00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.380
we have these white people in a bubble and we

00:36:56.380 --> 00:36:58.719
just have to keep them right there. And we have

00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.639
to just get these people to, like, entertain

00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.179
them and rub their feet. And I hate a private

00:37:04.179 --> 00:37:06.909
beach more than anything. I think that's the

00:37:06.909 --> 00:37:09.250
problem with cruises. Sorry, this is going so

00:37:09.250 --> 00:37:12.409
far left. No, I love it. You came right back

00:37:12.409 --> 00:37:15.389
to where we were earlier. With cruises, too,

00:37:15.710 --> 00:37:20.010
is that everywhere you stop, it's so curated

00:37:20.010 --> 00:37:23.789
to Americans specifically. It's like Uncanny

00:37:23.789 --> 00:37:29.590
Valley. But the flip side of that is that that's

00:37:29.590 --> 00:37:32.150
how those people who work there make a living.

00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:39.480
tip well you know it would be my only thing and

00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:41.960
i have gone on cruises my family took me on one

00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:44.519
and kenny and i went on one and that was kind

00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.000
of our policy like we did go to a private beach

00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:51.780
once but it was like we got a massage and i think

00:37:51.780 --> 00:37:54.380
i made kenny pay up like 200 american dollars

00:37:54.380 --> 00:37:59.039
because i was like and they and they were wearing

00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:01.599
my sunglasses when i woke up from my heavenly

00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:06.179
nap so A very serious question for the group.

00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.639
How much do we think Shannon and Vicky tipped

00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:14.619
those two workers in the private beach? Ten bucks

00:38:14.619 --> 00:38:17.800
each. The minimum, yeah. I think you're being

00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.500
generous. I would have said, like, maybe five

00:38:20.500 --> 00:38:23.900
to eight dollars each. Also, she did say she

00:38:23.900 --> 00:38:26.179
had some pesos on her, so she might have actually

00:38:26.179 --> 00:38:30.480
paid out in pesos. If you, like, have production

00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:34.539
for them, some pesos. do we think shannon knows

00:38:34.539 --> 00:38:39.420
the exchange rate of what's acceptable no no

00:38:39.420 --> 00:38:41.539
not at all i think she just throws money at people

00:38:41.539 --> 00:38:47.139
like literally like and then she falls down right

00:38:47.139 --> 00:38:55.900
after she does it i'm a doddering old lady I

00:38:55.900 --> 00:38:57.960
bring it up like six times throughout the thing,

00:38:58.019 --> 00:39:00.500
but I'm like Shannon and her comedy of errors.

00:39:00.579 --> 00:39:02.699
Like here's the God's honest truth. If it's just

00:39:02.699 --> 00:39:05.980
Shannon, I can almost accept it when it's Shannon

00:39:05.980 --> 00:39:10.920
and Vicky together. I don't want it. Yeah. Yeah.

00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:15.829
Anyway. But so they're in Puerto Vallarta. They

00:39:15.829 --> 00:39:17.670
go to Andalas, of course. And then Vicky starts

00:39:17.670 --> 00:39:20.090
talking about how she put this place on the map.

00:39:20.230 --> 00:39:23.050
And the more and more I think about it, Vicky

00:39:23.050 --> 00:39:26.050
Gunvalson has a God complex. Like she is the

00:39:26.050 --> 00:39:29.050
person who wholeheartedly believes I am the reason

00:39:29.050 --> 00:39:34.000
that Andalas is a known place in. Puerto Vallarta,

00:39:34.059 --> 00:39:36.179
Mexico. Regardless of the fact that it's been

00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:38.460
open for like 30 years, regardless of the fact

00:39:38.460 --> 00:39:40.539
that it existed well before the Real Housewives

00:39:40.539 --> 00:39:42.300
of Orange County and will probably continue to

00:39:42.300 --> 00:39:46.239
exist long after, Vicky believes that she is

00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.420
responsible for their success and it lives and

00:39:48.420 --> 00:39:51.440
dies by Vicky Gundelson. I don't like a white

00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.079
woman claiming anything in Mexico. At least she

00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.699
didn't claim to discover Mezcal like Aaron Leachy

00:39:57.699 --> 00:40:02.320
did on New York. Oh, God. I forgot about that.

00:40:02.539 --> 00:40:07.380
Where she's like, we made Mezcal cool. Sure you

00:40:07.380 --> 00:40:13.900
did. Yeah, but I mean, Vicky does the same thing

00:40:13.900 --> 00:40:16.659
about Orange County. The whole, like, she's the

00:40:16.659 --> 00:40:19.659
reason it exists. And it's like, okay, you may

00:40:19.659 --> 00:40:22.639
be the reason it kept going at first, but it's

00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.980
taken on. It's a new thing. It's been reborn.

00:40:26.780 --> 00:40:29.599
One step further, she believes that she is the

00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:33.940
reason the Real Housewives and Bravo exist. Real

00:40:33.940 --> 00:40:37.199
Housewives, yes. I don't think her ego is that

00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.719
much to say Bravo, but definitely she thinks

00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:43.719
Real Housewives began and ended with... her she

00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:47.019
is the reason for the season like jesus do we

00:40:47.019 --> 00:40:50.119
all know that gina kehoe was the was the the

00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.760
founding like housewife like i just want to make

00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.639
sure we're all on the same page about that okay

00:40:55.639 --> 00:41:01.719
yeah anyway i love a confident woman that is

00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.360
the one pro i'll give her listen she do she is

00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.320
confident she's a hard worker i will give her

00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.400
that that whole thing is about i can't stop working

00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:13.000
I work 10 to 12 hours a day. I don't ever stop.

00:41:14.059 --> 00:41:17.400
And the other 12 hours of the day, she's looking

00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:21.139
in the mirror and going. Now, I mean, this is

00:41:21.139 --> 00:41:23.559
going to come off as extremely judgmental, but

00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:27.940
I'm 48 going on 49. And let me tell you, the

00:41:27.940 --> 00:41:31.219
minute I can stop working in any given day, I

00:41:31.219 --> 00:41:35.340
pull the fucking plug on it. what does she not

00:41:35.340 --> 00:41:37.599
have going on in her life that she just wants

00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.639
to keep working like she needs a hobby something

00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.320
else to occupy her time and i have talked oh

00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.079
god please no no i was just gonna say it's escapism

00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:49.019
she's like getting away from something in her

00:41:49.019 --> 00:41:52.869
personal life Emma and I have talked a lot about

00:41:52.869 --> 00:41:56.250
this on our show where like my papa is like this

00:41:56.250 --> 00:41:58.349
we used to work for a guy that was like this

00:41:58.349 --> 00:42:01.170
Emma's boyfriend is like this we're like they

00:42:01.170 --> 00:42:04.070
have an inability to stop working my papa is

00:42:04.070 --> 00:42:08.670
going to be he'll be 80 this I'm sorry in March

00:42:08.670 --> 00:42:12.389
of next year and to this day he still works 14

00:42:12.389 --> 00:42:14.889
hours a day like at his own companies but like

00:42:14.889 --> 00:42:20.099
I mean he he has an inability to just rest because

00:42:20.099 --> 00:42:23.340
he and he said this before and the guy that we

00:42:23.340 --> 00:42:25.440
used to work for that has more money than god

00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.280
who bought a golf course because he was drunk

00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.380
he has also said this if i stop working i die

00:42:30.380 --> 00:42:33.079
like that's they truly believe this and i think

00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:35.179
vicki gunvalson is also this way because she

00:42:35.179 --> 00:42:38.260
didn't come from a ton of money so like i think

00:42:38.260 --> 00:42:41.619
she feels like her success is the direct result

00:42:41.619 --> 00:42:43.679
of how hard she's worked and if she doesn't stop

00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.250
or if she doesn't continue this momentum it's

00:42:47.250 --> 00:42:49.190
all over i do believe that about her and i will

00:42:49.190 --> 00:42:52.829
say i i am impressed by her work ethic i think

00:42:52.829 --> 00:42:58.949
the other side of that spectrum is like losing

00:42:58.949 --> 00:43:02.650
their identity like once you've poured so many

00:43:02.650 --> 00:43:06.690
hours into work if you just like stopped it's

00:43:06.690 --> 00:43:10.590
like who even am i anymore you know yeah i agree

00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:13.960
yeah i'm thankful as you know i may not have

00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.059
a lot of money but i'm thankful i have enough

00:43:16.059 --> 00:43:20.119
to not have to just keep on doing it all the

00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:27.039
time so yeah another extra detour i i like the

00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:29.460
detours we take because like you guys are very

00:43:29.460 --> 00:43:31.480
about the business on your show and you like

00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.070
you're like and like well So next time we do

00:43:36.070 --> 00:43:38.489
this, maybe we'll do this husbands watching housewives

00:43:38.489 --> 00:43:40.909
style where we're like, we're just fucking tired.

00:43:40.929 --> 00:43:44.789
We want to get this recorded because damn. Yeah.

00:43:49.909 --> 00:43:53.210
We're also around each other all the time. So

00:43:53.210 --> 00:43:58.250
it's just like, you know, we got to have a buzzer.

00:44:00.650 --> 00:44:03.010
We've got to get a buzzer for when Travis and

00:44:03.010 --> 00:44:06.570
I start going off course when we do that. We've

00:44:06.570 --> 00:44:09.150
just got to... Oh, it's good. I'll go get the

00:44:09.150 --> 00:44:13.170
taboo buzzer out of the box. No, so far Travis

00:44:13.170 --> 00:44:14.849
has been great because he's like, guys, we've

00:44:14.849 --> 00:44:16.769
got to get back to this. We're like five minutes

00:44:16.769 --> 00:44:19.969
into the episode and we're already recorded 47

00:44:19.969 --> 00:44:23.070
minutes of this motherfucker. No, I love it though.

00:44:23.090 --> 00:44:29.130
I love it so much. Back to this. We do meet Vicky's

00:44:29.130 --> 00:44:31.530
boyfriend. and we get the confessional where

00:44:31.530 --> 00:44:33.989
vicky's thing is like oh he fills up my love

00:44:33.989 --> 00:44:37.309
tank and i'm like john gunvalson filled up your

00:44:37.309 --> 00:44:39.829
love tank brooks the cancer faker filled up your

00:44:39.829 --> 00:44:44.349
love tank and that that the cop or sheriff whatever

00:44:44.349 --> 00:44:47.150
he was steve also probably filled up your love

00:44:47.150 --> 00:44:49.429
tank i think maybe your love tank is a little

00:44:49.429 --> 00:44:54.969
there's a leak i don't know yeah yeah you need

00:44:54.969 --> 00:44:56.809
to fill up your own love tank before you can

00:44:56.809 --> 00:45:00.300
have someone else your love tank I agree. I don't

00:45:00.300 --> 00:45:03.059
want that man anywhere near my love tank. No.

00:45:03.860 --> 00:45:12.219
Step off the love tank. So we go back to Orange

00:45:12.219 --> 00:45:15.519
County. Jen goes to dinner with Emily. Emily

00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:22.599
looks incredible. It is incredible what a diet

00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:26.019
of rage towards Tammy Judge and Katie Janela

00:45:26.019 --> 00:45:29.250
will do to you, but I like it. I'll start that

00:45:29.250 --> 00:45:31.829
diet in a heartbeat. She looked good when she

00:45:31.829 --> 00:45:35.230
was moving. When she was in scenes moving, great.

00:45:35.389 --> 00:45:37.250
But the minute she stopped and there was any

00:45:37.250 --> 00:45:40.949
sort of close -up on her or just her confessionals,

00:45:41.010 --> 00:45:44.130
she didn't look as good. And I'm not saying that

00:45:44.130 --> 00:45:47.210
it's a full -on Monet situation. It's just when

00:45:47.210 --> 00:45:50.469
she's moving through life, she looked really

00:45:50.469 --> 00:45:52.909
comfortable and natural and everything. But whenever

00:45:52.909 --> 00:45:55.030
they sit her or give her a close -up, she just

00:45:55.030 --> 00:45:56.429
looks very like, I don't know what to do with

00:45:56.429 --> 00:46:00.989
myself. And it gets very awkward. That is a carryover.

00:46:01.650 --> 00:46:06.050
Oh, go ahead. My computer keeps lagging and I

00:46:06.050 --> 00:46:07.750
don't even realize that I'm cutting people off

00:46:07.750 --> 00:46:10.190
until it's too late. No, it's all of us. It's

00:46:10.190 --> 00:46:13.809
just the way podcasts on this shared medium work

00:46:13.809 --> 00:46:17.710
these days. I just looked up a picture because

00:46:17.710 --> 00:46:20.610
I was like, I didn't notice that. It does look

00:46:20.610 --> 00:46:24.340
like. she's uncomfortable with her own face like

00:46:24.340 --> 00:46:31.690
she doesn't know how to move her I'm sure it's

00:46:31.690 --> 00:46:34.590
new to her being this transformation of sorts.

00:46:35.210 --> 00:46:37.710
She's used to being a certain way and she's working

00:46:37.710 --> 00:46:39.690
her ass off and she's still probably trying to

00:46:39.690 --> 00:46:42.710
get comfortable again in her own skin. I don't

00:46:42.710 --> 00:46:46.050
want to be critical of her, but still, it's amazing

00:46:46.050 --> 00:46:48.230
how when we saw her walk in, we're like, wow,

00:46:48.369 --> 00:46:50.869
she's gorgeous. And they go on and we're like,

00:46:50.909 --> 00:46:53.090
oh no, she's still Emily. She's still just a

00:46:53.090 --> 00:46:58.619
little like... Awkward. i also think you go first

00:46:58.619 --> 00:47:01.119
and then i have something i also think she's

00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:04.320
like that happy i'm not her therapist but i just

00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:05.639
don't think she's like that happy in her life

00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:07.920
i get that on the show i got that when we watched

00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.719
her on wife swap like there's just something

00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:16.239
about her that's just like not happy i i agree

00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.780
with you jeff i i think that there's there's

00:47:18.780 --> 00:47:21.940
some inner work that she needs to do and i do

00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:24.360
think that she's like there's also like something

00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:27.840
that like I don't know if either Scott or Jeff,

00:47:27.860 --> 00:47:29.719
you've ever been, like, super heavy, but, like,

00:47:29.739 --> 00:47:33.139
I used to weigh 300 pounds, and, like, any time

00:47:33.139 --> 00:47:35.420
that, like, I am in a situation where I'm, like,

00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.500
like, I've noticed it a lot, like, since Em and

00:47:37.500 --> 00:47:39.679
I have started doing video, I've noticed it in

00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:42.739
pictures, I've noticed it, like, even at 190

00:47:42.739 --> 00:47:46.280
pounds, I still am, like, okay, like, I have

00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.119
to, like, feel like I have to fit into a space,

00:47:48.219 --> 00:47:53.190
and I feel like Emily still is the... like mentally

00:47:53.190 --> 00:47:55.630
she's still the same person she was when she

00:47:55.630 --> 00:47:58.269
was heavier which by the way I always thought

00:47:58.269 --> 00:48:00.090
Emily was very hot like even when she was a little

00:48:00.090 --> 00:48:02.590
bit thick I thought she was very hot but I think

00:48:02.590 --> 00:48:05.369
like she was attacked on social media relentlessly

00:48:05.369 --> 00:48:07.929
she's talked very openly about that and I think

00:48:07.929 --> 00:48:10.429
that's always in the back of her mind and I think

00:48:10.429 --> 00:48:14.389
that like I it's hard to let that go I will I

00:48:14.389 --> 00:48:18.460
will say that agreed agreed yeah i've yogoed

00:48:18.460 --> 00:48:21.400
my whole life and yeah like the comments people

00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.199
have made in the comments that she's made to

00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:27.519
herself still live in there and so i can definitely

00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.000
see that but that face card does not decline

00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.420
it never has no no she's always beautiful that

00:48:34.420 --> 00:48:39.119
is true you know but um emily does talk in a

00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:41.969
confessional about how she's doing a lot better

00:48:41.969 --> 00:48:45.429
life has been going really well and her son is

00:48:45.429 --> 00:48:48.389
doing much better in his new school was was this

00:48:48.389 --> 00:48:50.329
a plot point last season the eating disorder

00:48:50.329 --> 00:48:52.949
and the sun it was that was her personal story

00:48:52.949 --> 00:48:56.980
yeah got it okay Yeah, apparently they found

00:48:56.980 --> 00:49:00.519
out, I think, through the viewers and by the

00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:03.900
reunion, that perhaps this panda syndrome, or

00:49:03.900 --> 00:49:06.139
whatever it's called, is actually something that

00:49:06.139 --> 00:49:09.260
he might have been afflicted with. And it turns

00:49:09.260 --> 00:49:12.199
out that's exactly what the situation was. Interesting.

00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:16.139
She learned by talking about it what might have

00:49:16.139 --> 00:49:18.599
actually been going on, and that helped her get

00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:21.679
treatment and a path forward with him. And apparently

00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.230
it's working. That's brutal. There's someone

00:49:24.230 --> 00:49:27.210
in my family who went through that. But she just

00:49:27.210 --> 00:49:30.389
graduated high school. So there is a beacon of

00:49:30.389 --> 00:49:37.170
hope. Yeah. And then we find out that Jen's son

00:49:37.170 --> 00:49:39.989
got pulled over doing 105. And we get a confessional

00:49:39.989 --> 00:49:42.110
with a little bit of foreshadowing where she's

00:49:42.110 --> 00:49:44.070
like, I wonder if something else is going on.

00:49:44.190 --> 00:49:47.809
And I'm like, when we get the scene later of

00:49:47.809 --> 00:49:51.460
the son with his like. back to the future haircut

00:49:51.460 --> 00:49:53.539
and like the jacket zipped all the way up i was

00:49:53.539 --> 00:49:55.460
like i was like there's absolutely something

00:49:55.460 --> 00:49:57.320
else going on i don't know what it is but like

00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:03.000
i see there's something going on um well it's

00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:06.119
also her other kid who recently her other kid

00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:10.019
who started the fire in orange county what her

00:50:10.019 --> 00:50:12.460
kids are responsible for some like starting some

00:50:12.460 --> 00:50:17.480
wildfire the brush fire yay yeah that's probably

00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:20.369
really great for everyone no charges he's just

00:50:20.369 --> 00:50:22.329
getting like a he has to take a fire safety class

00:50:22.329 --> 00:50:23.909
but like him and a bunch of friends started a

00:50:23.909 --> 00:50:27.750
fire and nobody was hurt but still in california

00:50:27.750 --> 00:50:32.289
fire like yeah yeah yeah and we're assuming it

00:50:32.289 --> 00:50:34.010
was an accident like he didn't do it on purpose

00:50:34.010 --> 00:50:38.820
but he's still he's responsible for it yeah i'd

00:50:38.820 --> 00:50:41.780
like to know what that legal team setup is because

00:50:41.780 --> 00:50:44.099
it feels like we haven't gotten a ton of coverage

00:50:44.099 --> 00:50:47.860
on ryan's gambling situation with shohei otani

00:50:47.860 --> 00:50:51.119
either so like i would like to know who they

00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.159
have representing them and how much that's costing

00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:56.719
them i really want to know that that's just me

00:50:56.719 --> 00:50:59.639
no i mean it'd be a good question to ask i mean

00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.300
because whatever money he's spending he doesn't

00:51:02.300 --> 00:51:04.280
have enough left over to get his hair dyed properly

00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:10.369
so that's for sure ryan Ryan, yeah, yeah. Poor

00:51:10.369 --> 00:51:14.809
Ryan. I mean, that was some just for men in there.

00:51:14.929 --> 00:51:18.030
His hair was like jet black almost. It was old

00:51:18.030 --> 00:51:21.210
school Joe Gorga. That's literally what I was

00:51:21.210 --> 00:51:28.650
about to say. The E -Roses, Dan. Sorry. You know,

00:51:28.730 --> 00:51:32.090
I do want to know where he is. Hope his hair

00:51:32.090 --> 00:51:34.289
is doing well as well. I hope he and his hair

00:51:34.289 --> 00:51:36.610
are doing well. I truly do. From Sexy Unique

00:51:36.610 --> 00:51:41.849
Podcast, always call Whitney's dad. Oh. With

00:51:41.849 --> 00:51:46.730
the spiky hair? No. Oh, what was it? Diane Warren.

00:51:46.949 --> 00:51:48.690
He was like, called him Diane Warren. Yeah, she

00:51:48.690 --> 00:51:51.070
was Diane Warren. He was male Diane Warren. You're

00:51:51.070 --> 00:51:56.190
right. Yes. But bangs for days. She was doing

00:51:56.190 --> 00:52:00.380
it too, but. We cut back to on delays and I just

00:52:00.380 --> 00:52:02.519
started disassociating at that point. I'm so

00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:06.000
sorry. I have no idea what happened while they

00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.099
were on delays. They talked about Tamara, basically.

00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:12.539
And just the whole quiet woman situation and

00:52:12.539 --> 00:52:15.460
Shannon just wants nothing to do with Tamara

00:52:15.460 --> 00:52:20.159
because she won't resolve things. Conflict resolution,

00:52:20.619 --> 00:52:23.920
Shannon. Whatever. I found it very interesting

00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.849
the way that they obviously they hadn't spoken

00:52:27.849 --> 00:52:29.849
since the reunion or whatever, like they had

00:52:29.849 --> 00:52:32.510
minimal interactions, that sort of stuff. I just

00:52:32.510 --> 00:52:34.590
found it interesting that they were just so quick

00:52:34.590 --> 00:52:37.130
to make it all about Tamara again. And it's like,

00:52:37.210 --> 00:52:39.949
did you learn nothing from last season? Like

00:52:39.949 --> 00:52:45.719
maybe they never do. Never do. But this is. What

00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:48.719
you just said, Scott, is I think is so important

00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.400
because I think I said the exact same thing about

00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.059
Beverly Hills. You can tell these women do not

00:52:54.059 --> 00:52:56.840
know each other outside of the context of The

00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:58.739
Real Housewives of Orange County. It's painful

00:52:58.739 --> 00:53:01.619
how obvious that is. Yeah, but it felt like with

00:53:01.619 --> 00:53:04.840
Shannon, I guess now they're purposely avoiding

00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:08.139
each other, whereas it just seems strange. They

00:53:08.139 --> 00:53:10.480
could at least run into each other here or there

00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:12.639
and be like, hey, what's up? Especially the girls,

00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:14.239
but I guess since The Quiet Woman, that whole

00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:17.420
thing, anyway. i'll let you move us forward sorry

00:53:17.420 --> 00:53:23.579
no no you're fine um this felt like the the bounces

00:53:23.579 --> 00:53:25.440
between these scenes felt very quick so tamra

00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:27.239
is helping sophia pack for her new apartment

00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:31.000
emily's doing laundry and amabel is being a demon

00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:33.780
monster and painting jen announces that grayson's

00:53:33.780 --> 00:53:37.380
ticket was 700 and then shannon's being wacky

00:53:37.380 --> 00:53:39.880
and goofy and walking her dogs and she might

00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:45.329
fall over and might there's never a might it's

00:53:45.329 --> 00:53:53.110
another course it's when um but we shannon facetimes

00:53:53.110 --> 00:53:55.849
stella her daughter who is in paris for school

00:53:55.849 --> 00:54:00.230
we find out that um she might want to stay in

00:54:00.230 --> 00:54:02.170
paris because she's like interested in working

00:54:02.170 --> 00:54:04.449
in hospitality and i would like to know if she

00:54:04.449 --> 00:54:07.969
and kelly dodd's daughter are like running around

00:54:07.969 --> 00:54:10.309
together because you know that kelly dodd's like

00:54:10.309 --> 00:54:12.230
mad at her daughter for being in paris and being

00:54:12.230 --> 00:54:15.150
woke now have you seen this i know she's mad

00:54:15.150 --> 00:54:17.449
at her being woke i didn't know that she's in

00:54:17.449 --> 00:54:19.650
paris and woke yeah she's like she's going to

00:54:19.650 --> 00:54:23.000
school in paris and like i like it just it I

00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:24.239
would like to know if they're running around

00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:27.079
together because I like Shannon's daughters for

00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:29.300
like for all of Shannon's faults. I do think

00:54:29.300 --> 00:54:33.440
she did an incredible job raising all three of

00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.079
those girls. And I think that I would like to

00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.920
know, like, I would like to see like a next gen

00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.760
situation with like some of the Orange County

00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:44.800
kids. I think that'd be cool. That's why Nick

00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.579
was at the Heather Dubrow event was because they're

00:54:48.579 --> 00:54:51.639
trying to make that happen. i love that but nothing's

00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.219
come of it yet so it's like time to go to paris

00:54:54.219 --> 00:54:58.539
i want the paris edition bravo tried to do paris

00:54:58.539 --> 00:55:01.940
before those the real girlfriends of paris they

00:55:01.940 --> 00:55:04.679
did didn't they and it just like went away after

00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.559
the one season it was a little hard to watch

00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:09.820
it's because they were all george uh georgia

00:55:09.820 --> 00:55:13.019
from nyc they were all basically the same character

00:55:13.019 --> 00:55:16.440
okay they were rhode island before rhode island

00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:19.300
was rhode island yeah Are you guys watching Next

00:55:19.300 --> 00:55:24.960
Gen NYC? No. I mean, I see the stuff on social

00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:27.880
media about it, and I read that. It's worth a

00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:31.579
watch. Is it worth a watch? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's

00:55:31.579 --> 00:55:35.619
definitely worth putting on. And it's so Next

00:55:35.619 --> 00:55:37.940
Gen. It's like they do the subtitles differently,

00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.739
and it feels like a whole different thing and

00:55:40.739 --> 00:55:43.260
much younger. But it's also that bullshit where

00:55:43.260 --> 00:55:45.789
they're like, it's... The first episode of this

00:55:45.789 --> 00:55:49.030
season, one of the girls is talking to Gia Giudice

00:55:49.030 --> 00:55:51.570
about, your mom unfollowed me. And you're like,

00:55:51.650 --> 00:55:53.929
girl, if you're going to make a problem about

00:55:53.929 --> 00:55:57.550
Teresa unfollowing you, you have so many other

00:55:57.550 --> 00:56:00.449
problems in your life. It's so ridiculous. She

00:56:00.449 --> 00:56:02.070
does. It's called her dad filed for bankruptcy.

00:56:05.619 --> 00:56:08.119
I'm just saying, what's nice about it, it's definitely

00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:10.219
a different generation where it's like this,

00:56:10.340 --> 00:56:13.699
you didn't post, it's the equivalent of Rhode

00:56:13.699 --> 00:56:16.260
Island with the whole Rosie didn't post about

00:56:16.260 --> 00:56:18.440
Kelsey cutting her hair bullshit, where you're

00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:21.139
like, who the fuck cares? I'm sorry, I didn't

00:56:21.139 --> 00:56:22.219
know how to take a picture of the back of my

00:56:22.219 --> 00:56:26.219
head. That's like 80 % of Secret Lives of Mormon

00:56:26.219 --> 00:56:29.380
Wives. Uh -huh. Oh, that's true. You're right.

00:56:30.380 --> 00:56:35.050
Did you see the take? Sorry. there was a tiktok

00:56:35.050 --> 00:56:39.949
of why can't i think of her name the hot one

00:56:39.949 --> 00:56:41.590
that just came out with a song what's her name

00:56:41.590 --> 00:56:47.510
miranda miranda she she she made a tiktok of

00:56:47.510 --> 00:56:51.929
all the times chase had texted her telling her

00:56:51.929 --> 00:56:58.889
to repost his tiktok oh i believe it solid gold

00:56:58.889 --> 00:57:04.340
and it It was. It was amazing to watch. I'm going

00:57:04.340 --> 00:57:06.739
to go look for that. Can I just go on record

00:57:06.739 --> 00:57:10.559
and say, number one, I love Miranda's new song.

00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:13.139
I will not accept any negative judgment for that.

00:57:13.179 --> 00:57:19.159
Number two, Chase has kind of dabbled in the,

00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.980
I might be open to being bi -pool. I want him

00:57:22.980 --> 00:57:27.019
to figure it out with me. I love him. I want

00:57:27.019 --> 00:57:31.570
that for you. i think chase is so obnoxiously

00:57:31.570 --> 00:57:34.969
hot i'm so into him of all the dudes he is like

00:57:34.969 --> 00:57:37.030
the hottest but really that's not saying much

00:57:37.030 --> 00:57:40.570
because those dudes are not hot whitney levitt's

00:57:40.570 --> 00:57:45.610
creature you're right yeah i think connor is

00:57:45.610 --> 00:57:49.769
has gotten much hotter as like he has been able

00:57:49.769 --> 00:57:52.210
to be like honest about like what happened in

00:57:52.210 --> 00:57:54.590
the past i i like connor now i think he's very

00:57:54.590 --> 00:57:57.380
hot and he figured out his hair too Yes. Well,

00:57:57.380 --> 00:57:59.199
he also, he went to Turkey and got the hair transplant,

00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:03.519
so. I, yeah, I think watching him be supportive,

00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:06.719
much like Alicia's husband, kind of swayed me

00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:11.619
into him. Because it's like, I watched him, like,

00:58:11.619 --> 00:58:14.039
tear up on Dancing with the Stars and all of

00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:17.219
that. And I'm like, oh, that's a good mate. But

00:58:17.219 --> 00:58:22.300
I'm just going to go on record. Chase, it doesn't

00:58:22.300 --> 00:58:25.079
take any swaying with me. Just, right, line it

00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:31.820
up. Anyway. I don't care. I don't need him to

00:58:31.820 --> 00:58:39.119
be smart. Also, by the way, we find out that

00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:43.019
Shannon is paying $10 ,500 a month for rent.

00:58:43.739 --> 00:58:48.599
Is that normal on the West Coast? No. Normal?

00:58:48.940 --> 00:58:52.019
How could that be normal? I mean, I guess if

00:58:52.019 --> 00:58:54.780
you're renting an entire giant house for yourself,

00:58:55.019 --> 00:58:58.039
maybe. Why not just buy the house? I don't understand.

00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:00.760
I thought the same thing. Why not just get a

00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:04.559
mortgage? Have some equity or something. $10

00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:10.039
,500 a month is wild. If she can afford it with

00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:15.050
that... That's the sort of thing you do when

00:59:15.050 --> 00:59:17.289
you're like, I'm going to buy a house soon, and

00:59:17.289 --> 00:59:20.230
I'm just waiting for the right one. So until

00:59:20.230 --> 00:59:22.949
then, and that's when you're going to buy a $3

00:59:22.949 --> 00:59:27.190
million house, but yeah, that's not normal. But

00:59:27.190 --> 00:59:29.210
based on that, she needs to stay on the show,

00:59:29.429 --> 00:59:31.269
and she needs to do what she can to stay on the

00:59:31.269 --> 00:59:33.190
show, so she needs to start resolving some shit.

00:59:34.389 --> 00:59:39.949
Because that's how you stay on the show. I also

00:59:39.949 --> 00:59:44.710
have, I, I have questions about, like, the money

00:59:44.710 --> 00:59:47.730
with Shannon and David Bedore. Like, David Bedore

00:59:47.730 --> 00:59:51.949
worked in construction. Shannon, I don't, I mean,

00:59:51.969 --> 00:59:54.369
she's been a housewife the entire time she was

00:59:54.369 --> 00:59:58.929
on the show. I don't know that she's ever been

00:59:58.929 --> 01:00:01.590
pulling it, like, that family as a unit has been

01:00:01.590 --> 01:00:03.429
pulling in the kind of money where, like, you

01:00:03.429 --> 01:00:05.949
can have crystals built into your wall and, like,

01:00:05.949 --> 01:00:09.300
you can have, like. The way that their house

01:00:09.300 --> 01:00:11.500
was built, like, before they got divorced, and

01:00:11.500 --> 01:00:14.440
now she's paying almost $11 ,000 a month for

01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:16.480
rent. I don't know that I buy it. You're paying

01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:21.260
$120 ,000 a year in rent. That's more than some

01:00:21.260 --> 01:00:26.159
people make in a year. Yeah. No, I agree. Yeah.

01:00:26.619 --> 01:00:30.420
Does she have family money? Do we know? I think

01:00:30.420 --> 01:00:36.260
her dad has significant money, but, like... Maybe

01:00:36.260 --> 01:00:39.159
she's in that pot. I don't know. So you're saying

01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:42.500
that Vicky's projecting Shannon's wealth on Heather

01:00:42.500 --> 01:00:45.380
Dubrow is what you're saying? Yes, she absolutely

01:00:45.380 --> 01:00:50.860
is. Okay, got it. Speaking of the devil, we go

01:00:50.860 --> 01:00:54.960
back to Puerto Vallarta. And I noticed in the

01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:57.900
background, Vicky has the same CPAP machine that

01:00:57.900 --> 01:01:00.940
I used to have when I had sleep apnea. Boy, I

01:01:00.940 --> 01:01:03.760
missed that. I didn't know you could read yourself.

01:01:03.780 --> 01:01:07.690
I didn't notice either. When I lost 110 pounds,

01:01:07.809 --> 01:01:12.550
I read myself a sleep apnea. Because it's all

01:01:12.550 --> 01:01:14.789
from pushing down right here. That's where all

01:01:14.789 --> 01:01:18.230
the... Oh, I thought it was like a nasal... No,

01:01:18.269 --> 01:01:21.210
it's like right in here. I have sleep apnea.

01:01:24.210 --> 01:01:28.269
It's like white noise. He is religious with his

01:01:28.269 --> 01:01:30.909
machine, though, and I thank him for it. I love

01:01:30.909 --> 01:01:36.170
it. I sleep through the night like a baby. I

01:01:36.170 --> 01:01:38.230
do love the sound of a sleep apnea machine. I

01:01:38.230 --> 01:01:41.150
think, like, that is... And the cool air rushing

01:01:41.150 --> 01:01:43.909
at your face. It's really nice. It does seem...

01:01:43.909 --> 01:01:47.130
It's like a personal fan. I might dig mine out

01:01:47.130 --> 01:01:49.010
of my closet and just see what it's like for

01:01:49.010 --> 01:01:52.510
all time sake. It's really fun. You'll be rushing

01:01:52.510 --> 01:02:02.000
down the slopes. But... uh yeah vicky talks about

01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:04.199
how she's trying to get residency in mexico and

01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:08.079
like whatever um we go over to gina's house in

01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:10.159
orange county and we get the flashback to gina

01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:12.280
or travis proposing to gina i thought that was

01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:15.420
very sweet because like what i do believe about

01:02:15.420 --> 01:02:19.659
gina is like she is pretty authentic like i believe

01:02:19.659 --> 01:02:22.380
like she was being really honest about like she

01:02:22.380 --> 01:02:24.460
had two broken nails like her hair was a mess

01:02:24.460 --> 01:02:26.480
she had like gained weight over the holidays

01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:29.690
like i i like that she was honest about like

01:02:29.690 --> 01:02:32.130
that proposal story and i like that travis was

01:02:32.130 --> 01:02:35.510
willing to propose to her in in that situation

01:02:35.510 --> 01:02:38.610
i think that's kind of cool yeah i'm cool with

01:02:38.610 --> 01:02:41.829
them like i don't really have anything like bad

01:02:41.829 --> 01:02:43.929
to say about gina i mean she's not as exciting

01:02:43.929 --> 01:02:46.030
housewife but like you don't need to have like

01:02:46.030 --> 01:02:51.510
a room full of vickies Yes. And speaking of her

01:02:51.510 --> 01:02:53.469
not being the most exciting housewife, I have

01:02:53.469 --> 01:02:55.650
a feeling this is going to be most of her storyline

01:02:55.650 --> 01:02:57.889
this season where she was talking to her mom

01:02:57.889 --> 01:02:59.670
about not being sure if she's going to change

01:02:59.670 --> 01:03:01.309
her name because she wants to have the same last

01:03:01.309 --> 01:03:02.989
name as her kids. I think that's going to be

01:03:02.989 --> 01:03:07.030
very significant this season. Yeah, I think you're

01:03:07.030 --> 01:03:11.570
right. And also his ex. What were you going to

01:03:11.570 --> 01:03:15.230
say? Travis's ex and I think she's still problematic.

01:03:18.529 --> 01:03:22.170
Yeah. Heather goes over to her mom's... What'd

01:03:22.170 --> 01:03:24.050
you say, Emma? I said he should take her name.

01:03:27.090 --> 01:03:29.070
Kirshenheider is a hard last name, I will be

01:03:29.070 --> 01:03:32.309
honest. Like, Travis Muller is... It's a name

01:03:32.309 --> 01:03:36.349
that makes sense. Kirshenheider is... No. Just

01:03:36.349 --> 01:03:39.170
change it to Smith or something. I can't remember.

01:03:39.230 --> 01:03:41.730
I looked up her maiden name, and her maiden name

01:03:41.730 --> 01:03:45.969
was... Oh, Mullen. No, not Mullen. Mullen's his

01:03:45.969 --> 01:03:49.070
name. Yeah, Travis's name. She has a very, very

01:03:49.070 --> 01:03:52.710
short original maiden name. And I was just like,

01:03:52.849 --> 01:03:56.210
yeah, it was kooky. So to go from that to Kirshenheider,

01:03:56.289 --> 01:03:58.349
she's like, I got used to this. I don't want

01:03:58.349 --> 01:04:02.590
to go back. I don't know. When you type Gina

01:04:02.590 --> 01:04:05.190
Kirshenheider M, the first thing that comes up

01:04:05.190 --> 01:04:09.730
is Gina Kirshenheider Maga. And it's like, yes.

01:04:10.449 --> 01:04:14.119
Probably. Gina Christine Archer. Archer, that's

01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:17.480
right. That's a good last name, actually. Gina

01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:23.340
Archer? Yeah. We get a scene of Heather going

01:04:23.340 --> 01:04:27.920
to her mom's new condo. I want to know what you

01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:30.539
guys thought about this condo, like the way it

01:04:30.539 --> 01:04:34.739
was decorated when you walk in. Our first reaction,

01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.340
Jeff's first reaction was apparently Heather

01:04:37.340 --> 01:04:40.420
got her mother's haircut because they have the

01:04:40.420 --> 01:04:43.789
exact same haircut. They do. We didn't talk about

01:04:43.789 --> 01:04:45.989
it at the time. I remember thinking, though,

01:04:46.090 --> 01:04:50.230
that that style of decorating is not long for

01:04:50.230 --> 01:04:56.130
this world. It's very old -fashioned. It feels,

01:04:56.289 --> 01:05:03.789
it screams like 80s, but make it opulent. That's

01:05:03.789 --> 01:05:07.909
how it felt to me walking in. It's gaudy. Yes,

01:05:08.110 --> 01:05:10.750
gaudy, gaudy, gaudy. and it makes me wonder like

01:05:10.750 --> 01:05:13.329
what the future of the antiques industry is going

01:05:13.329 --> 01:05:17.030
to be after a certain generation leaves us because

01:05:17.030 --> 01:05:19.949
non -existent yeah because some of that stuff

01:05:19.949 --> 01:05:22.489
you're like it's nice i can tell it's nice but

01:05:22.489 --> 01:05:24.389
it's nice in the way that collecting hummels

01:05:24.389 --> 01:05:30.449
is nice so yes yeah my generation won't be any

01:05:30.449 --> 01:05:35.019
better either because it's minimalist first of

01:05:35.019 --> 01:05:38.139
all and everything is like has a five -year lifespan

01:05:38.139 --> 01:05:45.300
before it's destroyed anyway it feels like heather's

01:05:45.300 --> 01:05:48.960
mom which by the way i i like heather's mom i

01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:51.480
i'm curious to get more of her because i think

01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:54.059
she's very interesting and like i think we're

01:05:54.059 --> 01:05:56.579
gonna get a lot more context about their relationship

01:05:56.579 --> 01:06:00.070
i'm excited about that i it feels like she went

01:06:00.070 --> 01:06:03.730
to japan or china one time and she she walked

01:06:03.730 --> 01:06:06.210
through like a gift shop at the great wall of

01:06:06.210 --> 01:06:08.090
china and she said i'll take it wrap it all up

01:06:08.090 --> 01:06:13.909
i want bravo to consider this i want bravo to

01:06:13.909 --> 01:06:18.610
consider bronwyn's mom and heather's mom spin

01:06:18.610 --> 01:06:23.570
off bronwyn wyndham burke or bronwyn no bronwyn

01:06:23.570 --> 01:06:26.829
from from salt lake yeah i want i want muzzy

01:06:26.829 --> 01:06:33.099
and yeah be great i don't muzzy maybe remember

01:06:33.099 --> 01:06:37.579
what would you say emma i was just tying it back

01:06:37.579 --> 01:06:39.739
to the great wall of china their show put him

01:06:39.739 --> 01:06:43.340
on the great wall of china the amazing race like

01:06:43.340 --> 01:06:48.199
um do you guys remember bronwyn wyndham burke's

01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:52.000
mother by the way no i missed the brahmin years

01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:56.710
okay bronwyn was on five or six years ago on

01:06:56.710 --> 01:06:59.889
orange county and her mother was like a shaman

01:06:59.889 --> 01:07:05.309
who was unwell and hated her daughter like hated

01:07:05.309 --> 01:07:08.510
her daughter more than muzzy did on salt lake

01:07:08.510 --> 01:07:13.190
city and at their worst like it it is so uncomfortable

01:07:13.190 --> 01:07:18.269
to watch and if you guys ever get a chance go

01:07:18.269 --> 01:07:21.650
back and watch the bronwyn season of orange county

01:07:21.650 --> 01:07:25.750
because it is dark It sounds like we need to

01:07:25.750 --> 01:07:29.809
stop naming our daughters Bronwyn. Didn't she

01:07:29.809 --> 01:07:32.650
have, like, more kids than Jen? She had, like,

01:07:32.670 --> 01:07:35.070
eight or nine kids. Something insane. Yeah. Yeah.

01:07:38.449 --> 01:07:42.750
Anyway. But, like, we do get a little more peek

01:07:42.750 --> 01:07:46.590
into the relationship between Heather and her

01:07:46.590 --> 01:07:48.769
mom. And I think it explains a little bit why

01:07:48.769 --> 01:07:51.889
Heather is the way she is. Because I... like

01:07:51.889 --> 01:07:54.949
i i can just envision how that house was growing

01:07:54.949 --> 01:07:58.730
up and we also find out that heather's mom lost

01:07:58.730 --> 01:08:02.909
heather's dad's ashes which is wildly uncomfortable

01:08:02.909 --> 01:08:04.409
and i don't know what to do with that because

01:08:04.409 --> 01:08:06.750
like the idea of like having someone's ashes

01:08:06.750 --> 01:08:08.570
and then like not knowing where there are like

01:08:08.570 --> 01:08:12.389
that makes me so uncomfortable see that's how

01:08:12.389 --> 01:08:16.250
those things end up at like an estate sale or

01:08:16.250 --> 01:08:18.289
an empty top and you're like oh look at this

01:08:18.289 --> 01:08:25.229
oh it's a person Oh. I don't want it. I'm not

01:08:25.229 --> 01:08:28.930
surprised in that condo, though. It's like, of

01:08:28.930 --> 01:08:31.350
course it's lost. Yeah, I'm sure he's probably

01:08:31.350 --> 01:08:34.750
in an ornate urn that matches all the other decor

01:08:34.750 --> 01:08:37.369
and it just blends right in. It's camouflaged

01:08:37.369 --> 01:08:44.390
somewhere. Do we think that Heather's mom came

01:08:44.390 --> 01:08:47.770
up with the line, God created Los Angeles, but

01:08:47.770 --> 01:08:50.289
he lives in New York. Do we think that she actually

01:08:50.289 --> 01:08:52.029
came up with that or she paid someone to write

01:08:52.029 --> 01:08:54.029
it for her? I think she came up with it. And

01:08:54.029 --> 01:08:56.270
as Heather said, she rehearsed it because she

01:08:56.270 --> 01:08:57.909
was like, cameras are coming. I'm going to do

01:08:57.909 --> 01:09:10.310
this. 100 % that. Oh, Lord. So then we get the

01:09:10.310 --> 01:09:12.109
like clips of everyone getting ready for Heather's

01:09:12.109 --> 01:09:15.189
party. We meet the new housewife Carmela. And

01:09:15.189 --> 01:09:17.970
I, I think I texted this to you guys. She looks

01:09:17.970 --> 01:09:20.289
like if the Andrew Simmons and Sheena Shea had

01:09:20.289 --> 01:09:24.909
a baby and she seems really cool. Like I really,

01:09:25.029 --> 01:09:28.029
really like her. She, um, I like what we've seen

01:09:28.029 --> 01:09:29.569
ever. We haven't gotten a whole lot, but like,

01:09:29.569 --> 01:09:31.689
I, she seems like she can hold her own. She used

01:09:31.689 --> 01:09:33.930
to be a playmate. Now she's a real estate agent,

01:09:33.970 --> 01:09:36.869
which I think that was also Gina Kehoe's journey

01:09:36.869 --> 01:09:42.170
too. Right. Yeah, you're right. They were taking

01:09:42.170 --> 01:09:46.270
it full circle. I don't know how I feel about

01:09:46.270 --> 01:09:49.710
Carmela trying to use I'm from Cleveland as a

01:09:49.710 --> 01:09:53.250
flex. Was it Cleveland or Cincinnati? Yeah, I

01:09:53.250 --> 01:09:55.569
was like, I know you're trying to work that in

01:09:55.569 --> 01:09:57.409
here right now and be like, this is my little

01:09:57.409 --> 01:10:01.050
backstory, but I don't know that people watching

01:10:01.050 --> 01:10:03.069
Orange County are going to be like, whoa, this

01:10:03.069 --> 01:10:06.939
girl's from Cleveland. Better watch out. Like,

01:10:06.939 --> 01:10:09.880
they have rivers that catch on fire. That's kind

01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:15.779
of their thing. It's like right over just a stone's

01:10:15.779 --> 01:10:18.800
throw away from Emma and me. I know. I'm watching

01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:21.319
from Indianapolis saying, why are you flexing

01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:25.060
Cleveland? Hot in Cleveland. That's like me saying,

01:10:25.100 --> 01:10:31.300
I'm from Carmel. Like, stop. I love how the Midwest

01:10:31.300 --> 01:10:35.909
pronounces things. Okay. Carmel. Yeah, yeah.

01:10:36.310 --> 01:10:40.050
It doesn't have the second A in it. Yeah, yeah.

01:10:40.229 --> 01:10:44.210
Oh, right. I forgot. Yeah, sorry. No, it's all

01:10:44.210 --> 01:10:47.189
right. No, it's how we differentiate. My favorite

01:10:47.189 --> 01:10:52.149
pronunciation is Versailles, Kentucky. Versailles.

01:10:52.470 --> 01:10:54.510
Versailles. Oh, it's Versailles. Sorry, all right.

01:10:54.569 --> 01:10:57.609
But still. We drive through there on my way to

01:10:57.609 --> 01:11:03.819
my Aunt Mary's. first time though i didn't know

01:11:03.819 --> 01:11:06.500
it wasn't versailles my entire life until like

01:11:06.500 --> 01:11:08.579
we were driving through my papa was like it's

01:11:08.579 --> 01:11:12.220
for sales travis michael and i was like i'm sorry

01:11:12.220 --> 01:11:20.180
for sales because i'm not country yet so we go

01:11:20.180 --> 01:11:22.279
over to heather's party heather's son nick comes

01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:24.600
out and he's like the little announcer uh for

01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:28.770
the evening and I like all of Heather and Terry's

01:11:28.770 --> 01:11:30.909
kids, and I think they did a great job as parents,

01:11:31.010 --> 01:11:33.050
I will say that. I think they're all very, like,

01:11:33.069 --> 01:11:35.829
well -adjusted and, like, confident. I really,

01:11:35.890 --> 01:11:39.050
really like all of them. Yeah. Yeah, that's good

01:11:39.050 --> 01:11:43.890
brood. Did you say good brood? I did. All right,

01:11:43.989 --> 01:11:49.189
I appreciate that. Good brood. Brood. I like

01:11:49.189 --> 01:11:51.850
that. Everybody needs a good brood. It's a brood.

01:11:54.320 --> 01:11:56.920
Oh, God. And then we get the clip of Vicky in

01:11:56.920 --> 01:12:01.220
the car putting a period pad under her armpit

01:12:01.220 --> 01:12:03.899
because she had a cyst removed and she is being

01:12:03.899 --> 01:12:09.060
as dramatic as the day is long. I didn't know

01:12:09.060 --> 01:12:12.000
what was going on with that scene because what

01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:17.100
was on the pad? There was like weird loopy gloops

01:12:17.100 --> 01:12:18.600
on it. And I was like, what was that supposed

01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:20.340
to do? At first I thought, was it like an icy

01:12:20.340 --> 01:12:24.409
hot? Like, what was it? Here's the pattern. It

01:12:24.409 --> 01:12:27.210
just had a pattern? I think so. The packaging

01:12:27.210 --> 01:12:29.789
on it had a pattern. That's just weird. I don't

01:12:29.789 --> 01:12:32.869
want my medical things to have a pattern on it

01:12:32.869 --> 01:12:35.449
unless it's like a band -aid sort of outside.

01:12:35.449 --> 01:12:38.189
Let's ask the woman on the panel. How do you

01:12:38.189 --> 01:12:42.810
feel about it? I don't know. It seems strange

01:12:42.810 --> 01:12:46.569
because if you get something removed at the hospital,

01:12:46.970 --> 01:12:50.649
whatever it may be, and you need to cover it

01:12:50.649 --> 01:12:54.329
up, give you stuff to cover the wound, so...

01:12:54.329 --> 01:12:59.670
So a little performative, maybe? Yeah. Everything

01:12:59.670 --> 01:13:02.210
about Vicki Gunvalson is performative. Because

01:13:02.210 --> 01:13:04.689
she couldn't just be like, look, I got a sister

01:13:04.689 --> 01:13:07.449
moved. Here's my wound. She has to be like, oh,

01:13:07.489 --> 01:13:10.310
I need to cover my wound. Well, it's the, I need

01:13:10.310 --> 01:13:13.909
to cover it up, and it's the... Like, the entire

01:13:13.909 --> 01:13:17.829
time. It's the constant screaming. It was really

01:13:17.829 --> 01:13:21.760
a lot of pain, especially... Again, if you get

01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:24.699
anything removed or happens here at the hospital,

01:13:24.779 --> 01:13:28.359
they're giving you at least some extra strength

01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:32.880
Tylenol to numb that pain, sister girl. She's

01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:35.000
exhausting. I feel like Vicky has to, like, come

01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:37.300
in with something. Like, when she did Girls Trip

01:13:37.300 --> 01:13:39.720
a couple years back, she had COVID going into

01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:43.149
it, basically. she had covid when she do you

01:13:43.149 --> 01:13:44.770
guys remember i don't know if you saw this when

01:13:44.770 --> 01:13:46.970
they went to iceland and she had to be like taken

01:13:46.970 --> 01:13:49.430
out like she was having like heart palpitations

01:13:49.430 --> 01:13:51.470
basically but she had to be like taken out on

01:13:51.470 --> 01:13:54.869
a stretcher in like to an icelandic hospital

01:13:54.869 --> 01:13:56.909
because she was out of her mind and she couldn't

01:13:56.909 --> 01:13:59.670
sleep for three days straight but like everything

01:13:59.670 --> 01:14:04.770
about vicky gunvalson is so extra and performative

01:14:04.770 --> 01:14:09.600
and exhausting no I told Jeff this last night.

01:14:09.739 --> 01:14:13.060
I was watching and I was just like, she is so

01:14:13.060 --> 01:14:16.939
loud. Just hearing her, I'm like, one, I was

01:14:16.939 --> 01:14:19.039
like, is this what everyone says Americans sound

01:14:19.039 --> 01:14:21.420
like overseas? Is this like, oh my God, this?

01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:25.300
But then people have always accused me of being

01:14:25.300 --> 01:14:27.479
loud. Scott, you're just being loud. You're being

01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:32.359
loud. And I said, if I'm like Vicky, I do not

01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:34.359
want to be loud anymore. Am I like that? And

01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:36.699
he's like, you are nowhere like that. And I'm

01:14:36.699 --> 01:14:41.579
like, And that's mean. I understand. I am a loud

01:14:41.579 --> 01:14:45.819
person. What has to not be functioning in your

01:14:45.819 --> 01:14:52.000
brain for you to act like that? I think she wants

01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.880
all the eyes and ears on her, and she's not willing

01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:58.619
to accept that anyone would see her as malicious

01:14:58.619 --> 01:15:03.079
in any way, shape, or form. Yeah, I guess it

01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:05.239
is a lack of shame. She's never the villain in

01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:09.510
the story. no emma do you think i'm loud like

01:15:09.510 --> 01:15:13.210
vicky i don't think i think you're loud but not

01:15:13.210 --> 01:15:18.329
loud like vicky okay thank you i would say the

01:15:18.329 --> 01:15:20.770
difference is like she doesn't seem to know when

01:15:20.770 --> 01:15:24.689
to stop or like when it's just too much like

01:15:24.689 --> 01:15:26.210
there are times where someone like scott you're

01:15:26.210 --> 01:15:28.010
being loud and i'll be like oh yeah No, I'm being

01:15:28.010 --> 01:15:32.909
loud. I'll just double down. I'm aware of what's

01:15:32.909 --> 01:15:35.029
going on. She does seem very not self -aware.

01:15:35.270 --> 01:15:38.590
It's the content of what she's saying too. She's

01:15:38.590 --> 01:15:42.409
just being annoying. Whereas if you're being

01:15:42.409 --> 01:15:47.189
silly, goofy, funny and loud, that's one thing.

01:15:47.430 --> 01:15:50.569
I'm thinking that her friends think that's silly,

01:15:50.670 --> 01:15:55.050
goofy, funny. I'm just like, yeah. I think she

01:15:55.050 --> 01:16:00.539
thinks that. with friends like that yeah but

01:16:00.539 --> 01:16:06.079
this is the thing is i you you think like do

01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:08.760
her friends think that and then like we got to

01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:11.859
a scene where was it gina is literally saying

01:16:11.859 --> 01:16:14.760
this is queen victoria you need to bow to her

01:16:14.760 --> 01:16:17.220
and kiss the ring and i'm like is she being serious

01:16:17.220 --> 01:16:20.819
right now like i swear to god like We've lost

01:16:20.819 --> 01:16:23.159
the plot, ladies and gentlemen. I thought that's

01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:24.859
where this conversation was going. She is just

01:16:24.859 --> 01:16:27.939
surrounded by enablers and no one who will, like...

01:16:27.939 --> 01:16:31.359
She's in my worst nightmare. She has no one around

01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:34.359
her who's gonna sit her down and say, you're

01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:37.239
being really fucking irritating. You need to

01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:41.819
stop this, this, and this. Like, you gotta have

01:16:41.819 --> 01:16:45.479
someone who's gonna keep it 100 % with you, and

01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:51.890
she doesn't have that, I think. But what I do

01:16:51.890 --> 01:16:54.470
appreciate about Carmella, she's like, I'm not

01:16:54.470 --> 01:16:56.149
going to do that. I'm not going to kiss the ring.

01:16:56.250 --> 01:17:00.449
I'm not interested in that. I like that. What

01:17:00.449 --> 01:17:05.329
do you think about her makeup? All right, good.

01:17:05.350 --> 01:17:09.850
Moving on. I think that it's also like one of

01:17:09.850 --> 01:17:12.630
her first times ever on TV. That's what I was

01:17:12.630 --> 01:17:14.850
about to say. She's never seen herself on camera.

01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:18.359
yeah okay and like social media on your phone

01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:22.079
is different than like how it's going to show

01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:25.279
up on tv and i feel like people talk up tv makeup

01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:30.140
like you really need to pack it on and so i fear

01:17:30.140 --> 01:17:35.920
that i will say i bought a camera for emma and

01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:39.739
me to like do the video thing with podcasting

01:17:39.739 --> 01:17:43.890
like a like a real camera and I tested it out

01:17:43.890 --> 01:17:46.109
and I put it right back in the box and I said,

01:17:46.130 --> 01:17:48.609
we are going to need a little more time before

01:17:48.609 --> 01:17:52.050
this comes back out of the box because the way

01:17:52.050 --> 01:17:55.550
that those cameras are so aggressive. In your

01:17:55.550 --> 01:17:58.789
pores, yeah. Yeah, that's why we stick to my

01:17:58.789 --> 01:18:07.430
iPhone 14 Pro. I love that. That's enough. So

01:18:07.430 --> 01:18:14.750
we're. were we sorry not kissing the ring heather

01:18:14.750 --> 01:18:18.569
has gone through two eras in this by the way

01:18:18.569 --> 01:18:21.090
i'm i also want to retire this whole i'm in my

01:18:21.090 --> 01:18:24.210
blank era because heather said she's in she's

01:18:24.210 --> 01:18:27.109
in her fun era she's also in her very happy unbothered

01:18:27.109 --> 01:18:29.829
era i i don't i don't need that we don't need

01:18:29.829 --> 01:18:31.670
to be taylor's if we don't need to kiss that

01:18:31.670 --> 01:18:35.029
ring either she is neither of those things like

01:18:35.029 --> 01:18:37.529
no one says heather dubrow is unbothered or fun

01:18:39.339 --> 01:18:44.520
or unburdened i do imagine that heather dubrow

01:18:44.520 --> 01:18:48.819
at a party is fun because she's poured a ton

01:18:48.819 --> 01:18:53.760
of money into it um i would never think of her

01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:55.960
as unbothered though i think that heather dubrow

01:18:55.960 --> 01:18:59.380
is such a type a personality she is one and not

01:18:59.380 --> 01:19:01.039
in a negative way she's one of the most bothered

01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:04.500
people i can imagine I don't think anyone who's

01:19:04.500 --> 01:19:07.960
unbothered ever says that they're unbothered

01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:10.600
because they don't realize that they should be

01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:13.640
bothered. You know what I'm saying? They're too

01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:16.119
busy being unbothered. What'd you say, Jeff?

01:19:16.380 --> 01:19:18.960
They're too busy being unbothered to like clock

01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:23.039
it. Exactly. They literally don't care. So they're

01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:25.619
just moving on. You want to know who's trying

01:19:25.619 --> 01:19:27.300
to convince the world that they're unbothered

01:19:27.300 --> 01:19:28.859
is me. And do you want to know who's probably

01:19:28.859 --> 01:19:31.119
one of the most bothered type A nut jobs in the

01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:35.760
world? me i've never it's never given unbothered

01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:43.180
babe no i'm sorry i started calling myself unbothered

01:19:43.180 --> 01:19:46.680
everything bothers me i think we need to we need

01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:51.840
to rename both of our podcasts unbothered is

01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:56.399
that the title of dorit's book yes unburdened

01:19:56.399 --> 01:20:05.060
unburdened oh good for her um So, oh, oh, this

01:20:05.060 --> 01:20:06.899
is the one that really got me. So Heather goes

01:20:06.899 --> 01:20:11.979
out to Vicky and Heather brings up the I that

01:20:11.979 --> 01:20:15.180
she says that she and she brings up the thing

01:20:15.180 --> 01:20:17.279
that where Vicky says that Heather and Terry

01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:19.819
inherited all of their money. And when Vicky

01:20:19.819 --> 01:20:22.600
does this voice where she's like screaming and

01:20:22.600 --> 01:20:24.859
like she's it's the argumentative screaming voice,

01:20:24.979 --> 01:20:28.159
that voice. And like, I know you guys didn't

01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.380
watch the Vicky years, but just trust me. this

01:20:31.380 --> 01:20:34.359
is the vicky voice that is a trigger for me i

01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:37.020
hate when she does this voice and like she's

01:20:37.020 --> 01:20:39.079
like i don't know i'm not stop screaming at me

01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:46.039
and i'm like yeah i didn't like it we see it

01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:48.000
in the preview where she's like i don't care

01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:52.060
yes yeah and it's the nasally it's that like

01:20:52.060 --> 01:20:54.699
it's the most grating voice and i don't like

01:20:54.699 --> 01:20:58.079
to say that about women's voices except for vicky

01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:02.039
gundelson no because she's like monotone but

01:21:02.039 --> 01:21:07.479
at a high pitch and it's very it's well it's

01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:15.279
well earned um so then we cut to emily and heather

01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:17.119
bouncing in the bounce house with shannon who

01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:19.020
just can't get up off the ground and she's just

01:21:19.020 --> 01:21:21.640
so silly and goofy and wacky i thought she was

01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:23.579
so worried about falling down and then she goes

01:21:23.579 --> 01:21:27.340
into a bounce house what is going on With her

01:21:27.340 --> 01:21:30.119
panties out, by the way, I just want everyone

01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:33.579
to see the dress was like up to her cooch and

01:21:33.579 --> 01:21:37.979
her panties were out. Poor Shannon. Like, and

01:21:37.979 --> 01:21:40.859
this is where like, I will like when it's not

01:21:40.859 --> 01:21:43.199
her and Vicky, I think it's kind of funny because

01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:45.720
like Shannon is a comedy of errors. Like Shannon

01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:48.579
can't get up off the ground and it's funny, but

01:21:48.579 --> 01:21:53.359
whatever. So then we cut to Jen trying to tell

01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:56.060
Tamara about Heather saying that Heather puts

01:21:56.060 --> 01:22:01.619
Tamara in a box. And Tamara just shuts down and

01:22:01.619 --> 01:22:06.060
just leaves. And I will say this about Tamara,

01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:08.020
and you will find that I am probably a Tamara

01:22:08.020 --> 01:22:11.699
apologist. This is probably one of the most mature

01:22:11.699 --> 01:22:14.680
reactions that she could have had. And I don't

01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:17.279
know that I've ever expected this out of Tamara

01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:20.899
Judge. i concur i think she went into this thing

01:22:20.899 --> 01:22:23.859
i can't do what i did last season it's not worth

01:22:23.859 --> 01:22:27.300
losing my shit in every scene i'm just gonna

01:22:27.300 --> 01:22:29.340
walk away and for someone who says they stopped

01:22:29.340 --> 01:22:31.340
doing therapy that was a that was a pretty like

01:22:31.340 --> 01:22:33.979
therapy move of like i'm gonna remove myself

01:22:33.979 --> 01:22:37.619
from the situation you guys continue i'm gonna

01:22:37.619 --> 01:22:41.640
go and i think she also said can we talk about

01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:44.739
this later because i because yes from what we

01:22:44.739 --> 01:22:48.850
all know about tamra is that she cannot control

01:22:48.850 --> 01:22:51.270
her reactions and i think she said i'm not gonna

01:22:51.270 --> 01:22:53.909
let this happen and i like that i really like

01:22:53.909 --> 01:22:56.609
that and i hope that's it too i felt like she

01:22:56.609 --> 01:22:59.609
went to the meredith marx school of disengagement

01:22:59.609 --> 01:23:03.390
yes i feel like she took that mic off and got

01:23:03.390 --> 01:23:05.770
in that car with heather amin and like yelled

01:23:05.770 --> 01:23:08.289
about it and then she's like okay i got that

01:23:08.289 --> 01:23:11.470
out but i respect that so much because now she

01:23:11.470 --> 01:23:14.829
can like think about it and have a conversation

01:23:14.829 --> 01:23:18.510
that's not just of screaming that. Jeff has a

01:23:18.510 --> 01:23:20.710
good theory about Tamara's approach for this

01:23:20.710 --> 01:23:22.869
season. You want to lay it on us, Jeff? Yeah,

01:23:22.869 --> 01:23:28.210
I think my thing is she's not going to do what

01:23:28.210 --> 01:23:29.789
she did last season. She's going to let them

01:23:29.789 --> 01:23:32.489
work. She's like, okay, I'm not going to be Tamara.

01:23:32.850 --> 01:23:34.970
I'm not going to lose my shit. You can't make

01:23:34.970 --> 01:23:37.109
me your storyline. So what are you going to do?

01:23:38.109 --> 01:23:41.229
What they're going to do is turn on Heather.

01:23:41.949 --> 01:23:44.289
This is like building up towards a Heather takedown

01:23:44.289 --> 01:23:47.210
season. Because like Jen trying to like move

01:23:47.210 --> 01:23:51.109
that story, which clumsily so. But like, so Tamara,

01:23:51.250 --> 01:23:53.630
I just want to tell you as a friend, you know,

01:23:53.630 --> 01:23:55.470
Heather can't say this to you, but she puts you

01:23:55.470 --> 01:23:57.970
in a box. Like she was so trying to start some

01:23:57.970 --> 01:24:01.810
shit. Jen and Gina and Emily and Shannon had

01:24:01.810 --> 01:24:05.170
a meeting. And they're like, we got to do something

01:24:05.170 --> 01:24:08.029
here. We ain't got shit going on. Let's go for

01:24:08.029 --> 01:24:10.369
Heather. Because we've already exhausted the

01:24:10.369 --> 01:24:13.949
Tamara. pot like that well is dry so let's go

01:24:13.949 --> 01:24:17.729
for heather and i'll bet you're on to something

01:24:17.729 --> 01:24:19.930
there because they said in like when they've

01:24:19.930 --> 01:24:22.930
been doing press like heather is probably gonna

01:24:22.930 --> 01:24:25.189
be in the hot seat like you know by the end of

01:24:25.189 --> 01:24:28.850
the season so i feel like there's they're coming

01:24:28.850 --> 01:24:33.069
for her yeah and tamra's reaction is just that

01:24:33.069 --> 01:24:35.750
it's just like you know what if i if i make this

01:24:35.750 --> 01:24:38.029
all blown up you're gonna be talking about it

01:24:38.029 --> 01:24:40.609
for the next five episodes and if i don't You

01:24:40.609 --> 01:24:42.630
guys are going to have nothing. And I'm still

01:24:42.630 --> 01:24:46.890
going to have my job. Exactly. If I were Ryan,

01:24:47.050 --> 01:24:54.329
I would put money on that bet. That would be

01:24:54.329 --> 01:24:58.970
a good bet. Someone call Ryan. Someone call the

01:24:58.970 --> 01:25:02.630
bookie. And that's kind of the end of the episode.

01:25:02.770 --> 01:25:04.390
We get the preview for the rest of the season.

01:25:04.550 --> 01:25:06.170
It looks like we're getting a trip to Vegas and

01:25:06.170 --> 01:25:08.899
a trip to Tokyo. we're probably going to get

01:25:08.899 --> 01:25:10.739
an answer about what's going on with Grayson.

01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:13.840
And it seems like we're going to be okay with

01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:19.300
breaking the fourth wall. And I, I said this

01:25:19.300 --> 01:25:21.680
at the beginning, we, we did get somewhere. I

01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:24.659
think that like, do I think that I'm going to

01:25:24.659 --> 01:25:28.479
view this as like a good, like on the same level

01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:30.079
I would, it's like a really good house, like

01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:32.859
a solid city or like Potomac season. Probably

01:25:32.859 --> 01:25:36.909
not. But can it be one of the better Orange County

01:25:36.909 --> 01:25:40.729
seasons? Maybe. Yeah, I agree. If it's like a

01:25:40.729 --> 01:25:43.090
little bit more lighter than last season, they're

01:25:43.090 --> 01:25:45.430
already ahead of the game. If they're having

01:25:45.430 --> 01:25:47.729
a bit more fun, you know, even if I don't totally

01:25:47.729 --> 01:25:49.569
buy they're actually friends, but if they're

01:25:49.569 --> 01:25:52.930
having fun on camera, let's go with that. Yeah.

01:25:53.270 --> 01:25:55.350
Yeah, and Andy's already said as much. This is

01:25:55.350 --> 01:25:57.850
not like a mind -blowing, you know, revolutionary

01:25:57.850 --> 01:26:01.529
season. It's just a season of Housewives. It's

01:26:01.529 --> 01:26:05.060
safe. They think you'll be safe. Which, for Orange

01:26:05.060 --> 01:26:07.119
County, they need some safety because they've

01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:10.140
gotten themselves in some hot water these last

01:26:10.140 --> 01:26:13.720
couple years. And not that them going to Japan

01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:16.420
is going to be keeping them from doing anything

01:26:16.420 --> 01:26:21.279
problematic. I asked this at the end of every

01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:23.420
one of the episodes we've done together. Who

01:26:23.420 --> 01:26:25.840
would we want to be friends with from this city?

01:26:28.300 --> 01:26:34.579
Hmm. Camera. Okay. I can get behind Tamra. I

01:26:34.579 --> 01:26:38.239
kind of see myself in her. Most of the time,

01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:40.060
that's a hard question because I can see myself

01:26:40.060 --> 01:26:42.539
being friends with all of them. With this one,

01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:44.380
it's a hard question because I don't really see

01:26:44.380 --> 01:26:45.760
myself being friends with any of them. I feel

01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:49.340
the same way. Well, I agree. I could totally

01:26:49.340 --> 01:26:51.619
be friends with Tamra. I think she would be,

01:26:51.739 --> 01:26:54.119
and that's why I believe the other women when

01:26:54.119 --> 01:26:58.010
they say that she's just so extra. that it would

01:26:58.010 --> 01:27:00.909
just be aggravating i would say probably heather

01:27:00.909 --> 01:27:03.329
although i worry about her being two -faced like

01:27:03.329 --> 01:27:07.270
legitimately two -faced like saying talking behind

01:27:07.270 --> 01:27:10.770
my back real hard about me and i was like not

01:27:10.770 --> 01:27:15.350
into it but i'd say heather okay yeah i would

01:27:15.350 --> 01:27:18.750
say probably tamra or heather yeah like because

01:27:18.750 --> 01:27:24.420
what i will say um Tamara with Teddy. I think

01:27:24.420 --> 01:27:27.979
Tamara and Teddy have a good friendship. I like

01:27:27.979 --> 01:27:31.039
the way that that is played out because I believe

01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:34.960
it's a very genuine friendship. I think Tamara's

01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:37.319
probably a really ride -or -die friend as long

01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:41.100
as you don't cross her. I think off -camera,

01:27:41.239 --> 01:27:45.479
Tamara is way more laid -back and chill than

01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:49.140
this Tamara we see. And probably a very good

01:27:49.140 --> 01:27:57.909
friend, too. well we did it you guys yay i i

01:27:57.909 --> 01:27:59.909
know like they've they probably already know

01:27:59.909 --> 01:28:02.109
where to find you but wait tell tell the besties

01:28:02.109 --> 01:28:04.909
where to find you guys oh it's wherever you find

01:28:04.909 --> 01:28:07.449
your podcasts and online at husbands watching

01:28:07.449 --> 01:28:11.729
housewives .com i forgot you guys do you have

01:28:11.729 --> 01:28:15.630
a website now yeah we do yeah i forgot You can

01:28:15.630 --> 01:28:19.170
also get us anywhere on TikTok at Husbands Watching

01:28:19.170 --> 01:28:21.489
and then Facebook and Instagram at Husbands Watching

01:28:21.489 --> 01:28:24.210
Housewives. You know what I forgot to mention?

01:28:24.270 --> 01:28:26.789
I forgot to mention my hatred of Vicky's damn

01:28:26.789 --> 01:28:32.229
confessional outfit. Oh, bring it up. Bring it

01:28:32.229 --> 01:28:34.710
up since you had it up earlier. I'm recording

01:28:34.710 --> 01:28:37.449
on my phone. I can't make that happen, but I'll

01:28:37.449 --> 01:28:41.569
send you that. I'll put it on our Instagram because

01:28:41.569 --> 01:28:48.029
I got the most horrifying ai generated image

01:28:48.029 --> 01:28:51.909
of like what scott and jeff see when when this

01:28:51.909 --> 01:28:54.170
comes up so you'll we might make it the show

01:28:54.170 --> 01:28:57.710
cover we'll see but um please do please but anyway

01:28:57.710 --> 01:29:00.170
also brendan from pod page please sponsor us

01:29:00.170 --> 01:29:02.270
because we both have pod page websites and we

01:29:02.270 --> 01:29:06.109
love you yeah and we know other people's podcasts

01:29:06.109 --> 01:29:13.560
that's awesome so from indie to San Francisco

01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:16.939
to Corona Del Mar to wherever else in Orange

01:29:16.939 --> 01:29:18.939
County. We love you. Thank you for being here

01:29:18.939 --> 01:29:22.720
and thank you for listening. I hope you were

01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:26.939
going to say Carmel by the sea. I don't know

01:29:26.939 --> 01:29:27.939
where that is. Okay, bye.