reality roundup with Chantel | RHORI season 1 finale

0:00 So I go to the jail and on her release day in September of last year, and I go there and Emma. Hello, Emma. And so if you watch Potomac, you know, there's that scene where Karen's leaving the jail and she rolls down the SUV window and she's waving to the fans. Well, that was me. I was the only fan that was there. The only one. I would have thought. hundreds of people would have showed up for that like i truly thought like that like people that is crazy hi i'm travis i'm emma and this is bestie approved um I don't know how this is going to sound because editing Travis is going to like have a time with this.

0:56 But we are here with our new friend, Chantel. I keep wanting to say Chantel and like I like I know that's not right. Chantel, thank you. And she's Purple Panda Pants on all social media. And we are going to talk today about the finale of The Real Housewives of Rhode Island. And I have we're going to get into a couple of things first, but I. Obviously, the first thing we start off with every episode is what's the last song you listen to? So what's the last song you listen to, Chantel? Last song I listened to was Glamorous by Fergie. Because I just went to a glamorous at Kiarna's spa in Potomac yesterday. So I posted a video about it. I felt like that song was very fitting for that experience yesterday. So then I was like, so I listened to the clip on Instagram and I was like, now I got to hear the whole song.

1:50 So I'm on YouTube music, like playing the whole song. So that's like a classic from the early 2000s. Love it. That is such a vibe. Yeah. Emma, what was your last song? It was All Falls Down by Kanye West. Okay. I'm sure I know it. I'm terrible. I'm terrible with like song titles. You know, I couldn't tell you any title of any song, but it's an oldie, but a goodie. I'm double checking myself before I lie to you. It's from. Hold on. Hold on. Technical difficulties. Yeah, it's on the college dropout. So what was that like 2006? Nice. My last song and full disclosure, Chantel and I did discuss this before you got on. It's OK. I don't care. Was and I'm not pandering.

2:54 This is fully the the truth is. Yeah. You know what it is, don't you, Emma? Baby Gorgeous by Lisa Barlow. And we were we were talking about how Lisa is like respond to do a couple of things on our tick tock. And like I like I hope I want to believe that it's actually her. And like when I post this on tick tock, I want I hope she sees this. But I also the other thing I believe about that song is I don't believe she wrote that for anyone other than herself. Like I love that song with every fiber of my being. And like I know housewives like when they get into music like.

3:38 it's it's very kitschy it's very like whatever like tardy for the party like uh uh this uh money can't buy you class like i love those songs i love baby gorgeous i love all of it yeah and her dj era too yes also because atlanta's airing right now i i think this is worth noting have you chantelle have you heard the song um come get this honey by nini leaks No. It is. Download it after you get off of here. Okay, let me write this down. Come get this, honey. Honey is spelled H -U -N -N -I. So good. For Mimi. Okay. It actually is. I used to have a whole little, like, playlist that was, like, all Housewives, like, music.

4:28 Like, all the, you know. Because, like, you had Melissa Gorga in there. You know, there's so many. That wouldn't be a bad. So like Emma and I are like literally said we do this last song thing every episode. And so we've started the bestie proof playlist. Like I for like for reality roundup, I might like put together that playlist, too. I love that. You're right. I might do that for Fourth of July. I mean, hang out with Andreas. And so, yes, I might make this. I might make a house. I'm going to do that. Make a housewives playlist. um but so you you talked about how you um you like to get into the dynamics of these women and like i think this is something that like people forget about like these are real people we're watching on the real housewives but the the two shows that are airing right now real houses of rhode island and real houses of atlanta i think are probably two of the best examples of like the most real dynamics between these women because I think like Beverly Hills like we can we can get into like how that's what that's turned into New York I think the old New York is a very different story the new New York I think that I don't know that you're getting like real relationships there but like on these two shows you are truly getting like I wholeheartedly believe like these women's real relationships so like what I guess, what's your take on that, like, when it comes to, like, breaking down those dynamics? I think the reason why Rhode Island

6:03 is just taking everyone, you know, lift just off of our feet here with the housewives is because there's real connections. You know, you can tell that these women know each other from childhood. Like, they are legit friendships. They're not... You know, oh, you know, my friend Julie is going to join Housewives as my friend and no one knows her. And, you know what I mean? Like they have this deep their lives are intertwined. And so their dynamic is very different to me than like Atlanta is airing right now with Atlanta. It feels like they're just every every housewife is trying to produce a scene and they are thinking three episodes ahead. Of how is this going to portray to the fans, to the viewers? What's the feedback going to say? What's the, you know, what are, what threads is going to, whatever.

6:56 Like they just, you have one that's just too hyper -focused on their perception, how they're going to be viewed, the viewers are going to view them. And you have one that like forgets the cameras are even there. And they're just living their life and we're just happening to be capturing it. And it's authentic. And you can't make up. what they've done on Rhode Island. You know, you can't make that up. Like the, the fights, the, the everything. It reminds me of this scene from literally in the finale when Joellen is like, how is Liz going to sit there and say, I'm not her friend, bitch. Like you're my family. But like. So that, yes, that is 100 percent. I couldn't agree more, Emma. And like the other thing that like I keep coming back to with Rhode Island is is kind of something you called out, Chantel, is I don't think these women are producing themselves. I think the only one that kind of is is Rula, who like I think she is desperately trying to protect like the image of her marriage. And I can't fault her for that. And like, I think that like. And there's there's a you can get into like a little bit of like the psychology there. But like Emma and I worked in finance for years before we both left the industry. So like there's also that thing of like clients are going to see this and like clients will feel weird about it. So like I 100 percent understand why she's doing that.

8:25 But the rest of these women like. like i i it is this is real stuff like when i mean like when joellen was like talking to her mother about like her childhood and like i i was like this is deep tv yeah i love it but and also i think it created one of the one of the if not the best first seasons of housewives of any city like i i cannot think of one like i thought salt lake city was like the perfect one i I did, too. I did, too. And if you go back and watch that first episode of Salt Lake or even that first season, it's not as great as we recall it being. Like just the gents, the gents job at all and like her personality and just her taking over everything.

9:14 And and then you if even like she was producing, you know what I mean? Like, oh, yeah. Playing it up. Yeah. Yeah. With Rhode Island, they're just like, it is what it is. Yeah. Well, so it's funny because Emma and I went back and unpacked the first season of Salt Lake City like and we just finished doing the finale. And so I. Oh, so this is fresh. This is very fresh for us. Absolutely. And like I, I go back and forth because I'm like, I, I don't know if Salt Lake City is one of the cities that like knew that they were going to be housewives in the beginning. Because like, you know, like Atlanta wasn't Atlanta was.

9:57 was going to be real housewives new jersey was going to be housewives but like everyone else it was oh you're going to be something else and we'll turn it into housewives i don't know salt lake city was like that and like i i can see where they're like playing it up for the camera but like even still like i think some of that is like like the growth that we saw with heather the like the the like honesty we saw like with meredith and seth's marriage like i was like this is like i like the real life and like and that's like i know that If Scott and Jeff from Husbands Watching Housewives watch this, like I know they defend Beverly Hills because that's like their their favorite. And like, I won't take that away from them. But I'm like, that's why I can't love Beverly Hills, because I'm like, I don't know that we're getting their real lives.

10:44 And like, yeah, they've done this so well here. So I could I couldn't agree. Yeah, I think. Oh, go ahead, Emma. Sorry. I was just going to make a quick note that I think there's entertainment value in watching how far they'll play it up, too. It's fun to watch how far Jen would go to make sure she stays on Housewives. You know what I mean? I feel like I can tell when they're being fake and being larger than they'd actually be. And it's funny. Like, it's funny to see, you know. Yeah, I think with Salt Lake, the reason why it was so incredible that first season is that you got to peek into like Mormon culture, Mormon lives. Like that was new. That was exciting.

11:36 And then everyone on that show was like a character, you know, like they all had their little quirks about them and they were all interesting and their stories were all interesting. who's from Utah, who's not and who's in the church, who's not. So just I think that their dynamics were great in the first season. But Rhode Island still wins. Rhode Island wins for me. For sure. I agree. I think as far as like diverse personalities go, Salt Lake City still has the edge. But something about how the girls get along in Rhode Island is just. And you mentioned like the how far Jen Shaw would take like that, the like playing it up. I go back to that to the scene with Liz and Joellen outside of that club where the Frank Sinatra guy was singing. And it's like, OK, got it. I agree. And like we all have you have I have. I got it. Agreed. I totally agree, Joellen.

12:39 I agree. However, however. How are you? Dolly said I was sorry 12 times. Dolly was never homeless. You think that that's a character and I'm like, I feel like some people are like, oh, she's playing it up. I wholeheartedly believe that was as real and as raw as it gets. I do not believe she was playing anything up. And I think that was her. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what I love about it. The fact that people are like, you know, being friends with Liz is an abusive relationship. I mean, like, you know, so here's what I want to ask you guys. Question. Yes, please. How do you think the cast is going to behave for season two after? Now they're, because when you're first season, you don't have, I mean, you can read viewer, you know, comments and be in the comments, whatever, during the season, but it's already filmed. So you can't change what has already been, you know, edited and everything else. But how do you think, who do you think is going to be the most, let me ask this, who do you think is going to change the most in season two based on viewer feedback? That's a tough one. i know i don't have an answer either here's how i feel i would hope for it to be rula but i don't think it will be because she's it's a defense mechanism what she's doing obviously i don't blame her like she's heartbroken anyway i hope it's not

14:12 liz That's my really strong opinion on that. I love her. And I think she's like being raw and real. And I think she's like leaving space for forgiveness too. And so I hope she doesn't read comments like that and like go easy on camera. You know what I mean? Like I want her to keep being her. I, if Liz does come back, I think that Liz, She will not like water it down a little bit. I think she'll like I think you'll see the wheels turning. And I think that that's like the result of that will be like she's going to be a little bit kinder and not as intense if we do see her change. I hope she doesn't. And I hope she does come back because, you know, there's like a situation going on with her legally right now. And I hope that we get past that.

15:09 I think. joellen and alicia will be identical to the people that we've seen now because i think the reception to them has been so incredible and i think that i think that alicia honest to god i don't think she has the capacity to change because i think this like she is just what you see is what you get and i love that about her um i think rosie probably will Like there's going to be some PR that comes out and it's like, OK, how can I like because I think I think the reaction to how she treated Kelsey, I think will burn her a little bit. I think that Rula is the one that will probably change the most. And I hope that I'm wrong about this. But I think do you remember when Miami came back and we got Larsa Pippen, who had like been like Kim Kardashianified a little bit? I feel like that is going to be it's we're going to see something similar with Rula and I hope I'm wrong because I want to see the real Rula because I think like we we did a collab with Cam who's gay for Bravo on TikTok and he. talked about like he wanted to see like the the Lebanese representation and like I would like to see more about her giving the other women like financial advice about like hey this is how you have to protect yourself because I think a lot of women that watch these shows could really benefit from hearing that I I hope I'm wrong about where I think it's headed with Rula I really

16:39 do I hope that Rula shows more of her life if she comes back for sure I don't want Rosie to change. I like her. I do, too. I like her. She says what she wants to say. And also, she made a point early on to say she's uncomfortable. She's a nervous person. She's not used to all this kind of stuff. And so she's trying to let them know. I'm not used to this kind of environment, this intense environment. And so like, take it easy or like, give me, give me space to breathe and to understand. Like she's, she tried her best. I just, I don't, I like her personality.

17:24 I think she's funny. I'm going to meet her. She's coming to DC for a slam pig summer. She's doing like a little mentor. So I'm going to meet her end of this month. So I'm very excited for that. But yeah, I hope that she doesn't see any feedback. I want her to just stay. And I think her husband will help her, too. I think all the husbands are so level -headed that they will help. The husbands are great. Except for Brian. Well, you are. Brian, he's trash. I consider him an ex already because I want Rula to come back like Ashley Darby in her single era. Oh, yeah. That's what I want for her. Yeah. But in the other because I didn't mention them, Kelsey and Ashley, I think they are like they are two just genuinely sweet, sweet, sweet girls. And I hope that I hope that like the because I'm here's the God's honest truth. The fans of Bravo can be vicious. And I hope that like they only get the. best of like the feedback because I think like I don't I don't I don't want any of these women to change like even if Rula like is still trying to protect that space in her life I don't want her to change either I love these women your personalities just all work together there's something for everyone housewives fan wherever you like the

18:55 villain or the quiet one or the one that's like I was talking to Karen about this yesterday about how in housewives you have to have like a medium housewife you have to have someone that just Kind of like if you watch Big Brother, it's like a floater, you know, and like just floats through a little bit. But they they can, you know, activate when they need to and then be chill when they need to. But you need to have all different levels of housewives to make a successful show. And I think that's what they have here. If we're talking about the archetypes, like who do you think would be the villain in Rhode Island? I have a hot take on that that no one's going to like. No one's going to like it. Do you know who I can see having a villain arc? Joellen.

19:43 Yeah. I knew you were going to say that. Why? Why do you think that? Something about her unwillingness to let go with that video. Like of her point to Lula. Sure. Gave me the inklings of like, like obviously not in this situation, but for future situations, her like holding on like a terrier to something until it's bigger than it needs to be kind of. Sure. I can totally see that for her. I know people love her. I like her. I can see why people love her. But I can definitely see that for her, too. Okay. What about you, Chantel? I could see Joellen as well.

20:34 Like, you know, second episode, everyone was like, oh, Joellen's a villain. She's the villain. And I was like, no, I don't think so. Not yet. Episode two was too early to pick a villain. I can see it. You know what? Another example that, and the one you gave, Emma, was great. When she was talking with Liz on the beach. And Liz was like, Joellen, for three hours, I told you to stop touching me. Get your hands off of me. You wouldn't do it. And Joellen's like, I know, but I kept doing it because I thought. And Liz is like, yeah. So she does. She pushes things. She pushes the envelope for sure. Yeah. And even her tagline, you know, what's her tagline?

21:16 I'm not mean. I just mean what I say. I say what I, yeah. I mean, you know. Yeah. It's right there in her tagline, so. That's true. That's true. Fair. Okay. Yeah, I could see that with Liz, too. I did not. Once they put the, like, clips together of Liz swatting her away so many times, I was like, yeah, Joelle and girl, chill out. I mean, following her outside in Boston at the club and like following her back inside. I would be annoyed too. Yeah, I would be annoyed. At the club, like in the car, like because I don't think I don't think Joellen was the bad guy in that scenario at all. I'm sorry. I truly thought Joellen was trying to fix it. I think the second Liz says, hey, get out of my face. You should probably stay out of her face. OK, that's fair.

22:05 And I feel like Joellen, too, is kind of stubborn. Like someone will tell her, like, I don't like that you're doing that. Liz is the best example of this. But Rula, too, will be like, I don't like that you're doing this. And she'll just keep going. Like they never said it. That's fair. That's true. That's very true about her. I can see Liz getting her. I'm sorry, Joellen getting the villain edit, even though she is of all of these women. If I had to pick a favorite, it's absolutely Joellen, because number one, I think she's amazing. Number two, her husband is so obnoxiously hot and like. that like if they ever want to swing by all means i'll swing right with them well but but um if it's not joellen i'm truly like rosie feels like she could be a little bit of a sleeper cell because the way that she came out swinging with kelsey tells me like she is a girl like And Emma and I know a few girls like this that like it's like they're cool, they're chill, like whatever. And then like when when they get set off, it is all bets are off. I'm kind of a girl like that, to be honest. I'm kind of a girl like that, to be fair to you. I'm a Scorpio, so I'm definitely I'm a Scorpio. So I'm definitely a little bit like that as well.

23:29 Yeah, I can definitely see her getting like pushed to the edge. But like watch it like be like someone you would never expect. Like like Ashley. Like it's like something's going to like just push her over the edge. Just make her flip. Yeah. I had to look up Rosie's sign. She's a Taurus. I don't know anything about astrology. So yeah. So Taurus Taurus is a bull like they're bullheaded. OK. I can see. She's also like loyal. And yeah. So, OK, I was just curious what her sign was because I was like, yeah, I can see that. Nice.

24:11 But I feel like we've talked a lot around it. Let's do you guys want to get into the finale and unpacking it? Yeah, let's do it. OK, so we get the opening shots and like I always love the beginning of a finale because like and Emma and I just talked about this with Salt Lake City. Like we we got the like just like how much happened in. in this season and it was this was a short it was 13 episodes they packed in a lot like this was so so great and then we get to like just the opening scene where liz calls kelsey while they're getting they're packing for the the island trip and um we get a confessional where liz says yeah i'm not gonna let the little stuff bother me anymore and i immediately was like But let's just see how that goes. And I was pleasantly surprised by this. But everyone starts to get ready to head over to the ferry for Block Island. Joellen shows up and it's immediately so awkward with with Liz. And also, I know, Chantel, you said you take notes, too. So like I take notes like a crazy person. Feel free to like jump in or whatever, like wherever. because i i'm curious like what what you picked up on versus like what emma and i typically pick up on um but like they're all getting on this fairy ashley is obnoxiously gorgeous like i like she is so pretty and just like naturally pretty and they

25:43 get to this like very like beachy or new england new england looking beach and um i i don't like you you live in like the in the northeast like are all beaches like this because like i mean i the only like context i have is like the hamptons from went from new york and like i like it looks like every beach i was ever at in the hamptons like is it are they all like that i think um upper like new england area the beaches are like that like rocky Rough sea, you know, the rough ocean, the waves. Where I live, I go to the beach like in Delaware. And it's not like that at all.

26:25 Okay. So it's definitely like a New England type beach. But it was gorgeous. I mean, it was so pretty. Nice. But apparently it was freezing there. Apparently. And like they filmed this over the summer. So I'm just like is. Is it just cold there like all the time? Right, right. And I might be going there in October and I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm going to be freezing. So Joellen decides she wants to take Liz for a walk on the beach. And I correct me if I'm wrong, because apparently I'm a Joellen apologist. But I've I truly felt like she wanted to fix this. And I felt like like they edited to they edited it to make Liz look like she wasn't that. interested but like i i was happy with the way it all ended but like do you guys feel like joellen was like i i need to fix this yes 100 she was like her goal was to make up with liz she said i want that the love feeling back in our in our friendship um you know she's she told liz um you know i've missed you did you miss me and liz was like okay Yes. Sure. I forget how exactly it went, but but she's pressing her, like pressuring her to respond back. And I just let Liz come to you or let her say what she wants to say. She wants to say it. Don't force her to respond to what you're saying. You know, that's fair. So I did

27:58 feel like it was begrudging on Liz's part, but I also felt like Joellen and forgive me, but like I felt like Joellen was like, this this is real like this is not for the cameras this is real like come on like i think she was like trying to find something there so like but i can see where that would feel like oh my god just like let the woman have her feelings which is fair um i and i i literally wrote like i honestly feel like this all boils down to liz saying a lot of shit she just did not mean in the moment and like truly if if she I don't know that Liz is this person, but like this, this truly would have been the perfect thing to blame on menopause.

28:39 Like, cause I would have given her a pass if she would have said that. Like I, like, yeah, a hundred percent. Um, and then like, I don't like, I. As a guy, I don't want to be like, oh, it's a woman. It must be she's going through menopause or whatever. It's because I equate that to be like, oh, are you on your period? I feel like that's such a mean thing to say. Well, I'm of the age where I'm perimenopausal, so whatever that means. I definitely think that it definitely could have been something with her, with her hormones just like going haywire that made Liz, you know, act the way that she did. Yeah. I don't know. I think Liz felt like, oh, go ahead. Sorry. No, no, no, please, please, please go ahead. I think that Liz just kind of wanted to get it resolved and just get it over with. You know, she kind of was like, I want to start fresh. I want to start fresh, move forward.

29:37 And Joellen's like. No, I don't want to start fresh. I want to go back to where we were before all this happened and continue building on what we had before. And it kind of ended up just agreeing to start fresh at the end. Well, this is something that we talked about with husbands watching Housewives. We're like a trigger for me is when literally anyone is like, oh, let's just start over. Like because I I'm like, no, you can't take some stuff back. Like and I think like that, like the breaks in a friendship also like. make a friendship stronger. And I literally wrote, I love that Joellen said, I want to go back to where our friendship was and just keep going. Like, cause I, I, I, I loved that. I loved that she said that. Yeah, I did too. I think that Joellen was being very open and very honest, very vulnerable.

30:26 Um, I loved it. Yeah. Um, So Rula, we cut back to Rula after we see the guys running around the beach and Joellen's hot husband. Like any time we get a cutaway to Joellen's husband, I'm like, oh, I'm going to mention it because I love him. But we get a cutaway to Rula acknowledging that she hasn't really been around. And this is something that I never really considered where she brings up the timing of Joellen bringing the thing to her at the polo match. And like I. Kind of get where she's coming from with that, because it's like, first of all, you're on camera. You are like there's tons of people around. I don't know who Rula knew there, but like I have to assume she knew some people there. And it's like I you're you're bringing my cheating, terrible husband to me right now. I don't want to deal with this right now. But I wish she just would have said that in the moment, because that is so valid. That is so fair. And she did mention that, I think, in the confessional in this last episode where she said, you know, the issue was that Joellen was wanting to, you know, give her the proof, but do it in front of everyone at a polo event. Why are you not coming to me privately?

31:40 Number one, it's housewives, so that's not going to happen. But number two, number two, I mean. I don't know. What do you think about the fact that Joellen just showed all the girls when they're at the Newport mansion? She just showed them all the video before Rula even knew it existed. OK, this is the one criticism I can find of Joellen. We're like, and by the way, Joellen is a good housewife. You cannot say she's not a good housewife. I wish that. it didn't go to all the women first because because here's the thing joellen went to rula and said if you want proof i will find you proof like and i truly believe she was being a girl's girl there and i think she was doing everything in her power to be like i i i've got my friends back here and i think that she kind of offset that when she took it to the girls and it's like whatever and part of part of me can be like well she's making good tv part of me can be like oh well she um she she's like proving that her her credibility but like i i don't think that was right i i will i will agree with you i think that that was a rough move yeah and i and i would if i was a little i'd feel you know embarrassed humiliated i mean it's embarrassing I want you like here's the God's honest truth there. There are people that are known in the community like they're like you're not like just

33:12 a no one that's on the end up on the Real Housewives like they have to have some like public facing persona. And I mean, he's a doctor. She is a financial planner. So they're dealing with people in the community. This has to be. one of the most humiliating outcomes I can imagine for any marriage to begin with. But anyone that knows people in your community, that sucks. I she's absolutely humiliated. Yeah. But. But I also do like that she does acknowledge because this has been an ongoing conversation, like just like after like seeing the season really does acknowledge, hey, I haven't been around much and I. she's just being honest about it I do like that she calls it out because like I think it was a tough look to just like be in the bed for half the season because like she didn't really leave her house for the first half of the season no she didn't she was she was asking a lot for a full time so um but like I say if you don't show up to the events the storyline keeps moving on without you so absolutely um and then billy pulls uh gary to the side he talks about how he's going to redo his engagement to alicia and like i think that is so sweet like it was so adorable well the whole like just the idea that he like and devil's advocate you can probably say like uh

34:44 he knew that like how this is going to look on camera and he knew how the bravo sphere is going to perceive like I've been with this woman for nine years and I haven't like we haven't like actually made it official. I I can imagine that there was some of that there. But like, I truly think that this was coming from a place of like, let's do this. Like whatever got him there. I really do like that. I do, too. I don't. Yeah, I'm iffy on him, Billy. But. But he scored a lot of points with that. I know because you could tell he was awkward and uncomfortable. And then when they showed Rosie and her husband peering down from the window, you could see like the one Bravo cameraman just there filming. And I'm like, it has to be so awkward for him right now.

35:31 But he did a great job. He did. And Alicia really, I mean, she deserved that. When she told her engagement story the first time around. Oh, my Lord. I. I couldn't I couldn't I was like you got a fudgesicle at the like he didn't even ask you a question he was like it's on the dresser pick up take your big pregnant self up and go look at the ring I bought you on top of the dresser I was I think I was texting you while like I was like while that scene was on and I was like i was like i there's no way i heard that right i had to like rewind that and watch it because i was like oh this was just trash like the original engagement was trash yeah um but then we cut back to rula and she starts to talk about the video where she's like hey let's let's call it out because i don't think and correct me if i'm wrong i don't we haven't seen joellen actually talk to rula about the video yet the only person that's talked to her about it is Rosie, right?

36:31 It's Rosie. Yeah. Yeah. At the Arabian Nights party. Yep. OK. And it finally seems like, OK, we've got something from Rula. She's going to come out swinging like because the way she was talking about it, I was like, we're we're getting something real. Right. And then we go start going back and forth between that. And then we get a cutaway to Kelsey unpacking the video situation with Joellen. And I'm sorry, it was Kelsey that talked to her about it, not Rosie. Right. Oh, my gosh. At the Arabian Nights party. It was I did a whole video on this. I think it was Kelsey because they were the ones talking. Kelsey was like, oh, yeah, it didn't seem like she really wanted. Because, yeah, it was Kelsey because she was like, oh, yeah, they talked about how it was AI and like timestamped or whatever. Oh, right. OK, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. OK, so I also like couldn't tell the difference between Kelsey and Rosie for a very long time. It took me probably to like episode four or five. So, yeah, I agree. But so there she's unpacking that with Joelle and Alicia. And the way so like Emma kind of alluded to this earlier, where like we get this like intense, like she's she takes things really, really far. talks about how she's not a liar. And like the way she said it, she's like, I'm not a liar. And like, I think part of that probably stems back to like the childhood thing where like, cause you heard her mom call it out with the lies or whatever. I have a feeling that's

38:03 where some of that's coming from, but like, it was very intense. It was. And then we cut back to Rula and like I literally wrote because like there there's not an ugly woman on this cast. I just want to start there. But like Rula is so hot. Like how could anyone ever see her? She's gorgeous. And then. All the women start to go into the hotel and I hate this hotel. Like Emma and I have talked a lot on this podcast about like how I'm a Marriott Bonvoy loyalist. Like it is that is that like I couldn't stay in this hotel. I hate most wallpapers and that wallpaper in each room was not beating those allegations.

38:44 I hated it so much. Yeah, it definitely was giving like early, early century, you know, historic hotel. Do you know what? Like, I couldn't stop thinking about in each one of these rooms is like Anne of Green Gables. Like, that's what it was. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. OK. Yeah, that's totally it. Yeah. Yeah. And then. Hi, beautiful. I'm back. I couldn't even unmute myself to tell you I was stepping away. I just texted Travis because the screaming was intense. Glad you're back. I almost called it out because I feel like I have a habit of just like never shutting up.

39:29 And I was like, Emma's actually on mute. You guys don't be mad at me. No, no, no, no, no. I, um, I had to mute myself. He was like freaking, he's going through one of those stages where babies go through, like he will not calm down for dad, you know, go through it for like 15 minutes. And that's why I kept muting myself and unmuting. And so I was like, all right, all right, all right. It's okay. Yeah, it's all good. I have to be so honest. Like I, part of the charm of this podcast, Emma, I think is like, this is being as unprofessional as the day is long, not knowing what we're doing. And like, but also like, it's, there's, there's such like, we're not polished about it. And I'm like, yeah, Emma's baby's fucking crying. What do you want? Like, I mean, it's real life. It's real life. Yeah.

40:17 It's fine. but it does make for a fun time editing I like sent a thing to Emma this is like a full segue but like I sent a thing to Emma like where they're like I have to cut out like 20 minutes at a time of like me like if something happens with the baby and I'm just like oh my Christ like we're still um but yeah it's um so we're like getting the shots like of everyone like unpacking in the hotel and uh that joelle and her hot husband are unpacking their like feelings about the ruler situation and then we cut over to ruler running around in her cover up with a slit all the way up her legs and it's like i hate any interaction with brian like i i understand like you're like this is your husband and like if you want to stay with him like i get it like whatever I hate seeing him on my screen. I hate him so much. Like, he, like, makes me angry.

41:16 And he's, like, the only bad part of this show, honestly, in my mind. I know. Yeah, I agree. Not a fan. He's so, like, outside of the cheating. He's, like, so icky, too. Like, the Versace crew neck and all. Ugh. Like, I don't want it. Like, ugh. Like, oh, did you dress up for the camera? Shut up. Yeah, he he's just a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater. I just I don't even I just can't. That's it. So Billy takes Alicia out to the the like the his plan. And like, I couldn't see this.

42:04 Like when I saw that it was like the candles in the circle. This is how they used to summon ghosts on Charmed. It was a heart. It was in the shape of a heart. Was it? Oh, it was? No. Oh, I thought it was just a circle of candles. Oh, I missed the heart. And I watched it twice. I totally didn't get that. But like, I love this scene because I, this was real. Like, this is like, you can tell. Like, you. Alicia reminds me so much of my aunt Tanya. And she is someone who it's like, I'm just going to keep talking. And like, whatever's on my mind, it's just going to come out of my mouth. And it's like, I want to cry. Like, Oh, you didn't get any snacks while we're out here. I love champagne. Like, and it's just like, she's just like, this is her. And she's like, you didn't give me a new ring. You didn't give me this. And I'm, and she's like telling the guy, she's like, Oh, he did a bad job with the first engagement. And I'm like, I love this so much. Cause like, yeah, this is their real relationship. oh it was and the emma like tell like you if if you don't mind me sharing this emma texted me earlier and she's like my hormones are still not in a place but it was like not even the moment itself i do love seeing a man show up for a woman when she tells him she needs it and i thought it was so cute it was the girls watching outside of their windows i know that was so sweet i know and then all and then they were cheering and everything once

43:35 you put the ring back on her finger it was the sweetest especially like watching with their husbands like oh yeah And it felt so genuine, like it was they weren't putting it on for the camera. They were all like, I'm really excited for my friend. Like, I loved that. I don't think it was like an original part of like their unpacking scenes for them to see it because some of them didn't see it. You know what I mean? Oh, the ones that were in the other that weren't in the main house didn't see anything. Yeah. I feel like they would have like called them to like the bar to watch or something. You know what I mean? Like if that were going to be the scene, I feel like it was just an inorganic. Oh, like it wasn't on the call sheet. You mean? Yeah.

44:19 Yeah. I. No, I completely agree. And like, I think that's what makes this so much better is like because you see like they're like, what is happening out there? Like what's going on out there? And then they realize what's happening. And I was like, oh, yeah, I just oh, my gosh. The fact that he's like, I'm not romantic. I don't know how to do these things. And he's and he said I made a note that he said he was worried that she was going to think he was dumb. And I was like, oh, my God. Gosh, I just was like, and, you know, and you can tell, like, he's not, you know, this is not his thing, but he definitely worked with the hotel, got the flowers, got it set up, got her champagne and all the things.

45:01 So, you know, it just really, after everything else he's done this season with Pizza Mama and all the little comments he's made here and there, this kind of redeemed him for me at the end. I like him too. And then I have one other thing to say. No, no, please go ahead. So I was also touched by the fact that he like before when they were on the beach, he was like man enough to tell one of the other husbands that like he wanted to do this and he needs help. Yes. It has to take like some balls to be like, I'm doing a romantic gesture, girl. I don't know. You know?

45:41 Well, no, he he did. He took Gary's finance aside and said, hey, you've known Alicia since she's. six years old right like what do you think about this and like how this I know I I could like that was so good like oh I was I couldn't get enough of that yeah um but I want to like so for I want to talk about Billy for one second because I think he got kind of a bad rap with the whole like I didn't put her name on the house and like I didn't she's not like part owner of pizza mama like yes that is that is a rough look but like do you guys remember the episode where uh alicia did like the presentation of like this is what i want to do for pizza mama and like i want i and she she talked about what she wanted in that moment i got the impression that billy is a guy that is a lot like my papa who he just Like it goes without saying that like things are just going to be taken care of because he does say like, yeah, I have an estate plan. And like, if God forbid something happens to me, yeah, you will be taken care of. And it's something that Alicia needed to hear. But it's something that Billy, I think, thought went without saying.

46:59 So like that was kind of my redemption arc for him. And like this just put the cherry on top for me. I mean, would it be nice? To me, the sign print under her not being named is that if they were to split up before they got married, especially, she wouldn't get to be a part of it. But I genuinely feel like after seeing the full season, I don't think in Billy's head they will ever, ever split up. No, I 100 percent agree.

47:40 I think that in their mind or in Billy's mind, he's just like, you know, like whether or not we get married, like this is just my person. Like, that's OK. Like, yeah, they have a child together. You know, I mean. Yeah. And he's like present in there, even though he's like a businessman, obviously. Yeah. So then we start like we. We get all of the like cheering for them. It was God, that was so good. And then everyone starts to head to the bar for dinner. And that's where Joellen is going to go talk to Rula. And this like the next the episode from this point on did not stop in my mind. I was like this. They are firing on all cylinders. This is good stuff.

48:28 So Joellen. looked incredible like joellen's hot like like she is like just hot to begin with but like which when she wears the dresses that are like cut out like right under her boobies and like it's she's showing a lot of skin i like i yeah love that i love those dresses yeah she's very hot very hot um i love the dress that rula is wearing because like rula does color very well like and like she's got i i feel like rula could make a burlap sack look good but like she the body is gorgeous too um i also thought they complemented each other like the blue of joelle's dress was the same blue of frula's dress oh yeah yeah that's true and like they weren't speaking at this point so you know they didn't plan that i was just like women know what they look good in um but then brian shows up down at the bar looking sweaty and gross and i hate him so much that's literally just what i wrote and joe ellen's hot husband gary pulls brian aside and i would he's the the him defending his wife i'm like oh like like i can't get enough gary love gary but he pulls her pulls her aside he's like hey let's let's talk about this video brian fully admits that it's real he's like yeah the video is real where he's been gaslighting Rula and everyone else around him so I'm like why why

49:58 are you gonna be like that with Gary and like be honest with him but like lie to all the women I hate you for that and and this is what Gary is like I don't care what you do I don't like if you're gonna whatever you're doing you're doing like whatever you need to deal with you need to deal with do not call my wife a liar and I was like god he is so hot oh I was gonna say he's so hot in that moment And I literally wrote like, if I ever get married, that is what I need my future husband to be just like that. He was not he wasn't playing anymore. He was tired of the whole summer, everyone calling her a liar, making it you know, why is Joellen the issue? You know, she's not the issue. She's not the problem. Brian, Brian is the problem. The cheater is the problem. I don't I don't I don't like how. The whole season or this whole, you know, she's just fighting for her life. You know, like for her care, for her character. You know, I'm not a liar. Yes. So Rula and Joellen have their conversation and it cuts back to that.

51:07 And I thought this is this is something you don't get a lot in Housewives, where this is two women who know how to communicate. And I thought they did such a good job in that conversation because it could have gone. so bad and I think Rula did a great job of saying okay this is why I feel the way I do and Joellen said I thought you said you wanted me to get proof I like that's what I thought I was helping and I'll buy that like did she did she mess up a little bit 100 % absolutely but I think her heart was always in the right place and I like the way that ended and then Joellen heads down to dinner Gross, sweaty Brian walks by Joellen and I'm like, oh, how dare you grace that woman's presence? I have an observation and Chantel, I feel like you're going to have a great take on whether I'm crazy or not. OK, but I felt like maybe the age difference between Rula and Joellen was relevant here because I feel like. joellen to an extent was almost like excited she had the tea and rula was annoyed by that and wanted it to be more like i'm so sorry you're going through this girl but you said you wanted me to find proof and so here it is like in private and i think that might be like an age discrepancy thing thoughts um

52:37 that's a great question i'm looking up their ages really quick um Well, so Rula owns a financial planning firm, so that puts her at a minimum in her mid 40s, because I'm like, you don't you don't you don't just do that in your 30s. Like, yeah, Rula's estimated to be 46 and Joellen 38. Yes, that's older than I thought for Joellen. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's not an age thing, but that is kind of like the dynamic I picked. No, I think you're 100 percent right. Yeah, I think you're right, too. And I think, too, it's also their culture. You know, I think I made a comment early on. I forget what it is now, but a comment about, you know, they don't talk about this kind of stuff in her family. You know, it's hush hush. It's private. It's quiet. And then you have Joellen on the flip side telling, you know, all of Rhode Island what's going on.

53:35 And so I can totally understand why. Rula felt that way. And I'm glad that Rula said, told her how she felt versus, because remember when she was talking to the women or before, before at the beach, she was like, I don't want to talk to Joella right now, but you guys can tell her this message for me. And Liz was like, no, you can tell her your damn self. She was like, I'm not going to relay this message for you. I love the way Liz said that though, where she's like, no, no, no, no, no. You need to like, you need to speak your truth. You need to be honest. I loved that. Yeah, me too. I think that's the real being a girl's girl. Yeah, it's supporting your friend, but also letting them know, like, you need to speak up for your own self. Push her into her strength. Yeah, absolutely. And I think and I like that is I never once thought about that, Emma, because I think you're right.

54:27 Like, I think we we this is one of the. younger groups of women like on average that we've seen on housewives because like i think when you think of real housewives you typically think mid 40s early 50s or like in ramona singer's case like almost 70 and like that no that's completely valid it's like i don't think we've seen such a skewed not not a skewed age gap is like the the worst way to say this but like i do think there there's a there's a difference in maturity almost i think that's completely fair 100 Yeah. Yeah. And it can even just be like a personality thing. You know, some people like the gossip, like the tea, like all of that. But like you said, Rula comes from a family where like if the whole state, because Rhode Island is a dot on a map. Yeah. If the whole state is talking about it and that leads to the end of your marriage, especially like that, I can see that being so taboo and like. Oh, sure. And I feel like maybe she didn't come to Joelle's defense as much as maybe you or I would have, because it's like the easy out in that instance would be to call her a liar. Like if she's telling the whole state of Rhode Island what's going on, even if it's breaking your heart and it's true and it's real, but you don't want to tarnish the reputation like that. It's easy to just be like, no, she's lying. Absolutely. Yeah. But then the women head

55:59 out to dinner and it just looks like the worst. It's cold. It's windy. They have those like heating lamps up. I'm like, girl, you couldn't have done this in the dining room. But like, I do love an outside dinner because like it takes me back to season. What was Monica Garcia's season of Salt Lake City? That was season four where they like did the thing on the beach. Like it took me back to that. I was like, I love a good outside dinner. It's I can't get it out of there. Like I told you, I write notes like I'm insane. I like I just start writing my thoughts sometimes. I'm like, I feel like I wouldn't be super into a clam bake, but I like the idea of this vibe. I like I just wish I was into seafood because like I feel like I would love to go to a clam bake. I would not enjoy the food, though. Yeah, I don't I don't like clams or things like that.

56:49 I don't like seafood in general. I'm picky on I'm picky on seafood. i love all i'm so jealous of you because i'm it's so good for you but like i it's a texture thing for me i don't know but um yeah yeah and then we i i'm such a hypocrite about this because like when we did this with husbands watching housewives i was like oh of course the first thing they do is pull out a game where it's like we're gonna get to know each other better and then i literally wrote oh my god yeah they're playing another game really because i was I've thought about the games like in this specific series. It's kind of silly, right? Because they all already know each other.

57:30 Like you're not going to find out any new genuine information. It's all just. I I think part of this is the producers pushing the women to be like, this is this is for the audience. Like, do you remember, Emma, when we talked about Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and like Jesse, every change she got pulled out that. damn truth box oh yes yes and i'm just like this is a hundred percent like they were like hey like let's do a call back to episode one i thought this was executed much better though because these were very good questions i thought these like this it feels like someone sat down and like thought this out like it was like the the people that make like that card game in the red box the like uh we're not really strangers game i'm like oh someone actually thought through this But that's just me. Yeah. The questions were good. Yes. We get like I didn't care about any other question except for Rula's question, which is. Yes. Literally, what is the most embarrassing thing your partner has done in public? And like the way that I gay gasped when that question came up and she looked at her husband and this is where I think she started to break. like is when she like this was I think hard and then I think it was Liz or someone that said like it doesn't have to be about your husband like you can you can throw it to someone else and then she throws it to Gary who said I don't think I don't think Joellen's

59:01 ever embarrassed me and like like I'm just like you don't have a bad answer in you dude I love you I know but like this is I think this is where like the wheels start to turn a little bit And do you remember this is a deep cut, but there was an episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey where they're all at a party and something I don't remember exactly what Teresa did, but she said they she said they better not use this footage. And I think Melissa was the one who said, oh, they're absolutely going to use it. And then Teresa, like, oh, yeah, yeah, because I think she realized, like, oh. America's going to see exactly what happened in my marriage. And I think I obviously reacted differently, but like. Yeah.

59:53 Like seeing her break a little bit and like seeing just how bad Brian was at being like, hey, no, like everything's going to because he was like, you put aside your ego. And I'm like, you cheated on her. You trash. I couldn't. I was like, you are. I'm like, and she was like ego. And he was like, oh, I'm going to use the right words or just don't like he doesn't even know how to say anything consoling to her at all. I just don't understand it. I feel like if you're going to take a man back after he cheats, he should be kissing your toes and nothing else. Like, shut up. In this scenario, like the only thing that should have come out of his mouth is I'm sorry for what I did. I'm sorry that like, I'm sorry.

1:00:36 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's all you can say. I've embarrassed. I was wrong. I, we've never heard him say any of those things to her that we've seen that I can, no, he's just the video, you know, the timestamp can be, can be altered. You know, it's, I just, I can't with him. Like, okay, Brian, I just. I really hope they just like don't show him anymore if she's going to stay with him. I have a feeling that he's so sleazy and gross. And I feel like his reaction to everything and the way he just kind of like breezes through it, if anything, is just an indication to me that he is still cheating. Oh, absolutely.

1:01:24 And like, do you. Yeah, the toast is like really what set me over the edge for him, because I literally wrote Brian opens his whore mouth and does a little toast where he was like, well, cheers to this, because everyone knows more about us than we know about ourselves. And I was like, shut your whore mouth. I hate you. You trash man. Shut up, Brian. Yeah, he made that comment about thanks for making us the most popular couple or most talked about couple. And I was like, you're not taking this seriously, dude. You're not taking this seriously at all. Your wife is right here bawling her eyes out. You've embarrassed her for all these months. And oh, thanks for making us popular. She doesn't want to be popular, dude. No. She's not interested in that. Like.

1:02:09 She wants her life to stay, her home to be stable. Yeah. And like. The only scenario in which I can accept any of his behavior is if Rula said. cover it up we are going to put a good face on for the show and that's going to be that and like deny deny deny i feel like even then you feel even yes i agree yeah oh i hate him but we get the the comedic relief of a lifetime with alicia who is wasted I think she started drinking at that proposal and just continued drinking because like. And yeah, she never she didn't stop. She didn't stop at all. She was wasted.

1:02:54 I love her so much because I mean, she I mean, she looks like she weighs like 26 pounds soaking wet. And I know, I know, I know. I was thinking I was like two glasses of wine or champagne for her. And I'm sure she's already like, you know, two sheets to the wind. So, yeah, she would not stop talking. She would not let Joelle. in a rule of talk she wouldn't let anyone talk and then billy's like alicia she's like i can say it's just hilarious she's so funny what i love because she's like i was like oh no this she's gonna keep talking and like she's like joellen tell her tell her you didn't tell her you weren't trying to tell her you had her your back you tell her tell her tell her and i was like she can't but then joellen was like It was so we're going to keep it private. And Alicia just wouldn't drop it. And I was like, oh, no, she would not drop it at all. I know she woke up the next morning with the worst anxiety in the world. No, I don't believe that for a second. I believe she woke up fresh as a daisy. She I believe she woke up like Sonia Morgan after a night of drinking and she's like on to the next one. Just feels nothing.

1:04:02 Feels nothing. I feel like if she if not hung over. If that were me, like that moment would play over and over and over in my head. Like, why didn't I just shut up? But I'm so glad she didn't. Like, that's the God's honest truth. I know I loved it. It was beautiful. But then the other thing that I think was so telling was like all these other women hate Brian and. Rosie looks at Joellen's and says, Joellen, you are not the problem. The problem is sitting right next to me and points at Brian. And I like, yes, that moment was like, I literally wrote, I just love these women. I. Yes, I was like, yes, yes, yes. I was like, call it out. I love it. I love it. And then. Because what is he going to say?

1:04:54 You know, I love. a group of girls that can set their problems aside for a con a common male enemy yes and then 100 we get the closing cards of like it's like oh yeah like we the cute little like i i didn't read a single one of them because like i was like finishing my notes and then i forgot that brian got arrested And I was like, I literally wrote, oh, my God, there's more. I forgot about the arrest. And then we get the scene of some of the women going over to Rula's house to like process the arrest and like the tracker situation. And I have a question about this. Because I listened to the Bravo docket talk about like how because in the state of Rhode Island, if there's a tracker found in the car, because from what I understand, BMW made Rula go to. the police department and like that's that's why the charges got filed and because it was a domestic violence charge or having a tracker and stalking is considered domestic violence they had to pursue the arrest but did am I like completely misremembering this or did Rula not say at the polo match to Joelle and I have a tracker in Brian's car did she say that I don't remember if it was exactly that. I have to go back and look because I swear to God, I remember

1:06:26 her saying because it came right before because she said like something about like, oh, he I have a GPS tracker. He goes to the gym every morning. And then Joellen said, does Brian look like he goes to the gym like that? I kept replaying that in my mind and I haven't gone back to rewatch that because I'm like, I am positive she said she has a GPS tracker. So I guess my question is, is like. Did. Why? Why did she if she has a GPS tracker in his car, either a does he know about it or B? Is it? I don't know. I have a conspiracy. If this is all true. If this is all true. What if? That is the tracker she was referring to. And Brian is taking the fall for it because he knows he's a rotten asshole and Rula shouldn't be arrested. Why would she have talked about it on camera then, I guess? Well, we know it's illegal. If she talked about it on camera, like, or not, or got charges or not. it's illegal to put a tracker on someone's car unless they know about it like that's that's the that's the thing that like the bravo docket girls kept saying like hey like if it's knowing like it's fine but like it's the knowledge of it that is the like the indicator in my mind he she just like had his location like like 360 or something but

1:07:58 i don't remember actually yeah i can't remember either if she said it directly sure It would make more sense if maybe she just has like my 360 or his location or something. But I would imagine he would turn our location off. That makes more sense. Because like if she has like find my and she's saying it's a GPS tracker, like maybe that's what she's talking about. OK, that's yeah, that's that's more believable. And then like it's like, oh, you took it one step further and you took one that I can't. turn off like and that's but i guess like i wonder how she or why she thought there was a tracker i i i hope we get more about that in season two because or at the reunion i hope even at the reunion i hope he was trying to prove that she's hooking up with someone else and god for it oh like he was like so insecure about like his indiscretions that she's like oh maybe she like trying to like find something she's done wrong Or if he doesn't want to get fucked over in the divorce and he knows that the whole divorce is because he cheated.

1:09:01 And then if he can prove that she also cheated, then then, you know, maybe it'll go over easy. No, that's actually really good. I like that. Yeah. And then I wonder, well, she dropped the charges. She did. She said she didn't want to press charges because because it's considered a domestic violence charge in the state of Rhode Island. So. I have to imagine that like there's some implications there, like where he would probably lose his medical license because it's like one of those things where. Right. I mean, she's a she's a financial planner. Like you're really going to ruin your chances of getting alimony and child support if you do get divorced. No, that's not going to happen. Yeah. It might also strain like custody of their kids. And she probably doesn't want to do that, you know. I think she might be staying for the kids, for her family, to keep her family together. She also did talk about early in the season how, like, because I think the producer asked her in a confessional, like, isn't this your second marriage? And she was like, my family doesn't like when I talk about that or something. I imagine that there's probably some level of shame there with, like, I am divorced. Well, they're a Middle Eastern family, right? They're Lebanese. I feel like it goes back to like not talking about cheating.

1:10:20 They probably also can't talk about divorce. Yeah. Because the cultural constraints there are like very like it's it's it's very like the way some of my family is like because of the church where it's like you stay in the marriage and you figure it out, like whatever it takes. And I. Right. I'm a person where I'm like, I love divorce. Like, let's do it some more. Let's get married just to get divorced. Yeah, I mean, me too. But like, I feel like if you grow up around, like if you feel different from everyone else already being Middle Eastern, and then like, you just have to take what your family says as the truth, because you know, your culture is different from everyone else's. So you have to like follow that. I feel like that would play a part too. I agree. Absolutely. I think she's playing a role. Ruelas is playing a role right now. And I would love to see the mask fall down.

1:11:21 I'm excited for the reunion. Yeah. I just, I don't know. I found it interesting and people online were like, I don't understand why he would be tracking her car. And I was just like, for me, it came to me immediately. I was like, so he knows when the mistress needs to leave. They did say that, yeah. Or leave the office. You know, it's like he needs to know where she's at so that he can control getting the other woman out of the way. You know, or, oh, shoot, she's on her way to the office. Like, you need to leave. I mean, I don't know. But we don't even know what kind of escapades he's going on. He can be like on actual dates and need to make sure that she's not alone for all we know. Would he be? Like, I'm this. I think it was the broth bros asked, like, who's dating him? No idea.

1:12:12 Because podiatry is one of the more lucrative medical fields to go into. And if he's doing Ozempic and Botox out of his office, there's some revenue stream there. Unless it's for the money, I don't get it. I can see it being younger girls looking for a sugar daddy situation because of all the brand labels and stuff like that that he does. I could see that. But like other otherwise, I have no idea. This truly and I texted this Chantel, I texted this to Emma this morning. This is the best first season of A Real Housewife City we've ever gotten. Like I said, one of earlier, this is this is this is it like start to finish.

1:13:03 Not a single not a single filler episode, not a single episode where I was like, oh, we could have done without that. so good yeah every single scene has been great um i just i'm sad that it's i am too but like what's interesting is i think it was like the third or fourth episode was that that's what lined up with the bravo up fronts and That was already renewed. So they were like they're they were getting back to filming fast. Like it was like, yeah, I think this first couple of seasons is going to be like a like a Secret Lives of Mormon Wives situation where it's like they don't really get a break from filming. So I'm. Yeah, just back to back. Yeah. I know they're going to start filming like in July. Oh, that's like for season two. That's like. Yeah. Yeah.

1:13:56 That's what my sources tell me. Because me and a few other creators are planning a trip to Rhode Island. And we're trying to figure out dates. And one of the dates was like July 31st through August 2nd, when there possibly would be filming. But I think we're going to end up going in the fall instead. I... Yeah. I think it would be so beautiful in the fall. I know. And fall is my favorite season. So I'm like, that's actually perfect. Oh, it is? Yeah, I'm like, it's perfect for me. Yes, I love fall. This is going to be good. Some warm, like, seafood soup. Oh, my God. Like a crab. Oh, my gosh. It's beautiful. So. Crunchy leaves is the best. I know. I might have to join you in Rhode Island. I would love a trip to Rhode Island. I've never been. Yeah, me neither.

1:14:46 I never wanted to go until now. I know. I always, if anything, do you remember the tirade I went on one time about how we should delete Rhode Island as a state? I do very fondly remember that. You were like, what are they here for? Right, right. That little blip. So a question for everyone. Who, now that it's all said and done, who would you want to be friends with from this cast? Ooh. I've said the same girl all season. Maybe I just like love it for a sight head over heels for her. I love Liz. I love her so much.

1:15:27 I she really resonates with me. She's too cool to be friends with me, though. And I will stand on that. I think Liz would be friends with us. I really believe that. Like, I think she'd be like, come to my huge house. Let's go out on this like long dog. Let's go for a walk. Yeah, I think more realistically, though, Alicia seems like a good time gal. What about you, Chantel? Oh, that's hard. Gosh, I want to go with. Oh, OK. My first gut reaction was Rosie. Just because she's fun. But then I'm thinking more. Liz, even though she was a little unhinged, you know, those couple episodes, she just seems like she's fun.

1:16:21 She's easygoing. She likes to be on the water. So do I. My only thing with Liz is that I feel like I might accidentally call her Dolores by accident. I've heard that. I've heard that. Do you know, in the finale, when she's on the beach with Joellen especially, I'm like, oh my God. that that's crazy she looks like her I mean it's insane if I okay what about you Travis if I had to pick like I feel like naturally I'm gonna say Joellen like but if I'm talking about like someone who like obviously joelle love joelle and but like if i'm if i'm like thinking about who like i can see myself truly like a friendship like emma and i have like where it's like we hang out like there's like it it's it's easy it's simple like we're just good friends i truly think ashley would be an incredible friend like she's like she's cool she's sweet she's she and she's just easy like it's like it doesn't feel like she's like putting on a show it's like She just seems really sweet. I really, really like her. She seems like the most real out of all of the cast in the sense of like, I see that girl every day when I'm out and about. And I love that about her. She's like very accessible, even though she's like not obviously, you know,

1:17:51 she's doing glam and her husband's so hot. But she's like, she seems very down to earth. But what a good season. Like, wow. Yeah. Chantel, tell the people where they can find you. Tell it. Tell everyone the besties where you are. Yes. So I am on Instagram, TikTok and Reddit under Purple Panda Pants. All one word. Where did Purple Panda Pants come from? Oh, so that is my Reddit username that I came up with like 10 years ago. I've been on Reddit for 10 years.

1:18:36 And so purple is my favorite color because I was a kid and I've loved panda bear since I was a kid. And the pants part, I needed a third word and it just came out. It means nothing other than the purple and the panda part, but it's just silly. I like it. it's cute no i mean it's memorable people are gonna remember panda pants i noticed like because i mean obviously we don't have a ton of followers on tiktok but like your like screen name stood out to me because i was like i i love that like and i like i never cared where it came from i just i was like i love her like i and i'm so glad that we were able to make the connection and like do this because this is we we were talking about this earlier but like when emma when you got on but like i i think that this space of like creators supporting creators and like the bravo world where like there there is a genuine fandom there of like us just loving to talk about like this this what people think is garbage but like it is some of like my favorite stuff i love this and i'm just i'm really happy you were able to come on today and we we love having you Thanks for having me. This was so much fun. You guys are awesome. Thank you. Thank you for being gracious. Oh my gosh, Emma. I'm a mom too, so I totally get it. It's totally fine. I had a great time. I hope I can come back.

1:20:00 This was fun. Yeah, I hope we can do it again too. The door is always open. Wait, do you want to talk about the reunion? What about it? What do you mean? Are you asking me? The Rhode Island reunion. Do you want to do it again? Yeah, sure. watching i think that would be fun well besties let me just um we know that's coming back let me just check one thing because i have i'm going i'm going to okay yeah um oh yeah oh sunday's father's day yeah um yeah and then i'll be watching that on sunday but if we want to do like the same day i mean monday at same time or something just let me figure it out i'm open but as always from indie to outside of the what it's a What's the county? Surrey County Courthouse? Where did?

1:20:52 Oh, for Karen's thing? Yeah. Surrey County is where she's originally from. Yes, thank you. Yeah, in Virginia. As always, from Indy to outside of the Montgomery County Courthouse to Rhode Island to wherever you listen, we love you. Thank you for being here. Thank you for loving us and we'll see you next time.