reality roundup with Chantel | RHORI season 1 finale

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So I go to the jail and on her release day in

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September of last year, and I go there and Emma.

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Hello, Emma. And so if you watch Potomac, you

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know, there's that scene where Karen's leaving

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the jail and she rolls down the SUV window and

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she's waving to the fans. Well, that was me.

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I was the only fan that was there. The only one.

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I would have thought. hundreds of people would

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have showed up for that like i truly thought

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like that like people that is crazy hi i'm travis

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i'm emma and this is bestie approved um I don't

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know how this is going to sound because editing

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Travis is going to like have a time with this.

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But we are here with our new friend, Chantel.

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I keep wanting to say Chantel and like I like

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I know that's not right. Chantel, thank you.

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And she's Purple Panda Pants on all social media.

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And we are going to talk today about the finale

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of The Real Housewives of Rhode Island. And I

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have we're going to get into a couple of things

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first, but I. Obviously, the first thing we start

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off with every episode is what's the last song

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you listen to? So what's the last song you listen

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to, Chantel? Last song I listened to was Glamorous

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by Fergie. Because I just went to a glamorous

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at Kiarna's spa in Potomac yesterday. So I posted

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a video about it. I felt like that song was very

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fitting for that experience yesterday. So then

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I was like, so I listened to the clip on Instagram

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and I was like, now I got to hear the whole song.

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So I'm on YouTube music, like playing the whole

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song. So that's like a classic from the early

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2000s. Love it. That is such a vibe. Yeah. Emma,

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what was your last song? It was All Falls Down

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by Kanye West. Okay. I'm sure I know it. I'm

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terrible. I'm terrible with like song titles.

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You know, I couldn't tell you any title of any

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song, but it's an oldie, but a goodie. I'm double

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checking myself before I lie to you. It's from.

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Hold on. Hold on. Technical difficulties. Yeah,

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it's on the college dropout. So what was that

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like 2006? Nice. My last song and full disclosure,

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Chantel and I did discuss this before you got

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on. It's OK. I don't care. Was and I'm not pandering.

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This is fully the the truth is. Yeah. You know

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what it is, don't you, Emma? Baby Gorgeous by

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Lisa Barlow. And we were we were talking about

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how Lisa is like respond to do a couple of things

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on our tick tock. And like I like I hope I want

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to believe that it's actually her. And like when

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I post this on tick tock, I want I hope she sees

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this. But I also the other thing I believe about

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that song is I don't believe she wrote that for

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anyone other than herself. Like I love that song

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with every fiber of my being. And like I know

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housewives like when they get into music like.

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it's it's very kitschy it's very like whatever

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like tardy for the party like uh uh this uh money

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can't buy you class like i love those songs i

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love baby gorgeous i love all of it yeah and

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her dj era too yes also because atlanta's airing

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right now i i think this is worth noting have

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you chantelle have you heard the song um come

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get this honey by nini leaks No. It is. Download

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it after you get off of here. Okay, let me write

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this down. Come get this, honey. Honey is spelled

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H -U -N -N -I. So good. For Mimi. Okay. It actually

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is. I used to have a whole little, like, playlist

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that was, like, all Housewives, like, music.

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Like, all the, you know. Because, like, you had

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Melissa Gorga in there. You know, there's so

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many. That wouldn't be a bad. So like Emma and

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I are like literally said we do this last song

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thing every episode. And so we've started the

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bestie proof playlist. Like I for like for reality

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roundup, I might like put together that playlist,

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too. I love that. You're right. I might do that

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for Fourth of July. I mean, hang out with Andreas.

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And so, yes, I might make this. I might make

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a house. I'm going to do that. Make a housewives

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playlist. um but so you you talked about how

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you um you like to get into the dynamics of these

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women and like i think this is something that

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like people forget about like these are real

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people we're watching on the real housewives

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but the the two shows that are airing right now

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real houses of rhode island and real houses of

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atlanta i think are probably two of the best

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examples of like the most real dynamics between

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these women because I think like Beverly Hills

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like we can we can get into like how that's what

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that's turned into New York I think the old New

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York is a very different story the new New York

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I think that I don't know that you're getting

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like real relationships there but like on these

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two shows you are truly getting like I wholeheartedly

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believe like these women's real relationships

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so like what I guess, what's your take on that,

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like, when it comes to, like, breaking down those

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dynamics? I think the reason why Rhode Island

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is just taking everyone, you know, lift just

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off of our feet here with the housewives is because

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there's real connections. You know, you can tell

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that these women know each other from childhood.

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Like, they are legit friendships. They're not...

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You know, oh, you know, my friend Julie is going

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to join Housewives as my friend and no one knows

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her. And, you know what I mean? Like they have

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this deep their lives are intertwined. And so

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their dynamic is very different to me than like

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Atlanta is airing right now with Atlanta. It

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feels like they're just every every housewife

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is trying to produce a scene and they are thinking

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three episodes ahead. Of how is this going to

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portray to the fans, to the viewers? What's the

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feedback going to say? What's the, you know,

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what are, what threads is going to, whatever.

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Like they just, you have one that's just too

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hyper -focused on their perception, how they're

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going to be viewed, the viewers are going to

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view them. And you have one that like forgets

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the cameras are even there. And they're just

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living their life and we're just happening to

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be capturing it. And it's authentic. And you

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can't make up. what they've done on Rhode Island.

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You know, you can't make that up. Like the, the

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fights, the, the everything. It reminds me of

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this scene from literally in the finale when

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Joellen is like, how is Liz going to sit there

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and say, I'm not her friend, bitch. Like you're

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my family. But like. So that, yes, that is 100

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percent. I couldn't agree more, Emma. And like

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the other thing that like I keep coming back

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to with Rhode Island is is kind of something

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you called out, Chantel, is I don't think these

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women are producing themselves. I think the only

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one that kind of is is Rula, who like I think

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she is desperately trying to protect like the

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image of her marriage. And I can't fault her

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for that. And like, I think that like. And there's

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there's a you can get into like a little bit

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of like the psychology there. But like Emma and

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I worked in finance for years before we both

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left the industry. So like there's also that

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thing of like clients are going to see this and

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like clients will feel weird about it. So like

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I 100 percent understand why she's doing that.

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But the rest of these women like. like i i it

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is this is real stuff like when i mean like when

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joellen was like talking to her mother about

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like her childhood and like i i was like this

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is deep tv yeah i love it but and also i think

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it created one of the one of the if not the best

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first seasons of housewives of any city like

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i i cannot think of one like i thought salt lake

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city was like the perfect one i I did, too. I

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did, too. And if you go back and watch that first

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episode of Salt Lake or even that first season,

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it's not as great as we recall it being. Like

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just the gents, the gents job at all and like

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her personality and just her taking over everything.

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And and then you if even like she was producing,

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you know what I mean? Like, oh, yeah. Playing

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it up. Yeah. Yeah. With Rhode Island, they're

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just like, it is what it is. Yeah. Well, so it's

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funny because Emma and I went back and unpacked

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the first season of Salt Lake City like and we

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just finished doing the finale. And so I. Oh,

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so this is fresh. This is very fresh for us.

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Absolutely. And like I, I go back and forth because

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I'm like, I, I don't know if Salt Lake City is

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one of the cities that like knew that they were

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going to be housewives in the beginning. Because

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like, you know, like Atlanta wasn't Atlanta was.

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was going to be real housewives new jersey was

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going to be housewives but like everyone else

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it was oh you're going to be something else and

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we'll turn it into housewives i don't know salt

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lake city was like that and like i i can see

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where they're like playing it up for the camera

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but like even still like i think some of that

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is like like the growth that we saw with heather

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the like the the like honesty we saw like with

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meredith and seth's marriage like i was like

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this is like i like the real life and like and

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that's like i know that If Scott and Jeff from

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Husbands Watching Housewives watch this, like

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I know they defend Beverly Hills because that's

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like their their favorite. And like, I won't

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take that away from them. But I'm like, that's

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why I can't love Beverly Hills, because I'm like,

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I don't know that we're getting their real lives.

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And like, yeah, they've done this so well here.

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So I could I couldn't agree. Yeah, I think. Oh,

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go ahead, Emma. Sorry. I was just going to make

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a quick note that I think there's entertainment

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value in watching how far they'll play it up,

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too. It's fun to watch how far Jen would go to

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make sure she stays on Housewives. You know what

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I mean? I feel like I can tell when they're being

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fake and being larger than they'd actually be.

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And it's funny. Like, it's funny to see, you

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know. Yeah, I think with Salt Lake, the reason

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why it was so incredible that first season is

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that you got to peek into like Mormon culture,

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Mormon lives. Like that was new. That was exciting.

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And then everyone on that show was like a character,

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you know, like they all had their little quirks

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about them and they were all interesting and

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their stories were all interesting. who's from

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Utah, who's not and who's in the church, who's

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not. So just I think that their dynamics were

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great in the first season. But Rhode Island still

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wins. Rhode Island wins for me. For sure. I agree.

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I think as far as like diverse personalities

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go, Salt Lake City still has the edge. But something

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about how the girls get along in Rhode Island

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is just. And you mentioned like the how far Jen

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Shaw would take like that, the like playing it

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up. I go back to that to the scene with Liz and

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Joellen outside of that club where the Frank

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Sinatra guy was singing. And it's like, OK, got

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it. I agree. And like we all have you have I

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have. I got it. Agreed. I totally agree, Joellen.

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I agree. However, however. How are you? Dolly

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said I was sorry 12 times. Dolly was never homeless.

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You think that that's a character and I'm like,

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I feel like some people are like, oh, she's playing

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it up. I wholeheartedly believe that was as real

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and as raw as it gets. I do not believe she was

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playing anything up. And I think that was her.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what I love about

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it. The fact that people are like, you know,

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being friends with Liz is an abusive relationship.

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I mean, like, you know, so here's what I want

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to ask you guys. Question. Yes, please. How do

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you think the cast is going to behave for season

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two after? Now they're, because when you're first

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season, you don't have, I mean, you can read

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viewer, you know, comments and be in the comments,

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whatever, during the season, but it's already

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filmed. So you can't change what has already

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been, you know, edited and everything else. But

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how do you think, who do you think is going to

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be the most, let me ask this, who do you think

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is going to change the most in season two based

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on viewer feedback? That's a tough one. i know

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i don't have an answer either here's how i feel

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i would hope for it to be rula but i don't think

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it will be because she's it's a defense mechanism

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what she's doing obviously i don't blame her

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like she's heartbroken anyway i hope it's not

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liz That's my really strong opinion on that.

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I love her. And I think she's like being raw

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and real. And I think she's like leaving space

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for forgiveness too. And so I hope she doesn't

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read comments like that and like go easy on camera.

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You know what I mean? Like I want her to keep

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being her. I, if Liz does come back, I think

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that Liz, She will not like water it down a little

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bit. I think she'll like I think you'll see the

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wheels turning. And I think that that's like

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the result of that will be like she's going to

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be a little bit kinder and not as intense if

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we do see her change. I hope she doesn't. And

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I hope she does come back because, you know,

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there's like a situation going on with her legally

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right now. And I hope that we get past that.

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I think. joellen and alicia will be identical

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to the people that we've seen now because i think

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the reception to them has been so incredible

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and i think that i think that alicia honest to

00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:23.480
god i don't think she has the capacity to change

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because i think this like she is just what you

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see is what you get and i love that about her

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um i think rosie probably will Like there's going

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to be some PR that comes out and it's like, OK,

00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.740
how can I like because I think I think the reaction

00:15:39.740 --> 00:15:43.419
to how she treated Kelsey, I think will burn

00:15:43.419 --> 00:15:47.559
her a little bit. I think that Rula is the one

00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:50.039
that will probably change the most. And I hope

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that I'm wrong about this. But I think do you

00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.460
remember when Miami came back and we got Larsa

00:15:56.460 --> 00:15:59.840
Pippen, who had like been like Kim Kardashianified

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a little bit? I feel like that is going to be

00:16:04.789 --> 00:16:06.889
it's we're going to see something similar with

00:16:06.889 --> 00:16:10.169
Rula and I hope I'm wrong because I want to see

00:16:10.169 --> 00:16:13.330
the real Rula because I think like we we did

00:16:13.330 --> 00:16:16.649
a collab with Cam who's gay for Bravo on TikTok

00:16:16.649 --> 00:16:20.690
and he. talked about like he wanted to see like

00:16:20.690 --> 00:16:23.590
the the Lebanese representation and like I would

00:16:23.590 --> 00:16:26.210
like to see more about her giving the other women

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like financial advice about like hey this is

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how you have to protect yourself because I think

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a lot of women that watch these shows could really

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benefit from hearing that I I hope I'm wrong

00:16:35.870 --> 00:16:39.309
about where I think it's headed with Rula I really

00:16:39.309 --> 00:16:47.049
do I hope that Rula shows more of her life if

00:16:47.049 --> 00:16:51.909
she comes back for sure I don't want Rosie to

00:16:51.909 --> 00:16:57.870
change. I like her. I do, too. I like her. She

00:16:57.870 --> 00:17:01.750
says what she wants to say. And also, she made

00:17:01.750 --> 00:17:05.890
a point early on to say she's uncomfortable.

00:17:06.089 --> 00:17:09.750
She's a nervous person. She's not used to all

00:17:09.750 --> 00:17:11.589
this kind of stuff. And so she's trying to let

00:17:11.589 --> 00:17:14.700
them know. I'm not used to this kind of environment,

00:17:14.859 --> 00:17:16.960
this intense environment. And so like, take it

00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:19.220
easy or like, give me, give me space to breathe

00:17:19.220 --> 00:17:21.200
and to understand. Like she's, she tried her

00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:24.240
best. I just, I don't, I like her personality.

00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:27.839
I think she's funny. I'm going to meet her. She's

00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:30.900
coming to DC for a slam pig summer. She's doing

00:17:30.900 --> 00:17:34.680
like a little mentor. So I'm going to meet her

00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.420
end of this month. So I'm very excited for that.

00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.559
But yeah, I hope that she doesn't see any feedback.

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I want her to just stay. And I think her husband

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will help her, too. I think all the husbands

00:17:46.140 --> 00:17:51.259
are so level -headed that they will help. The

00:17:51.259 --> 00:17:55.279
husbands are great. Except for Brian. Well, you

00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:58.779
are. Brian, he's trash. I consider him an ex

00:17:58.779 --> 00:18:01.259
already because I want Rula to come back like

00:18:01.259 --> 00:18:05.039
Ashley Darby in her single era. Oh, yeah. That's

00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:10.390
what I want for her. Yeah. But in the other because

00:18:10.390 --> 00:18:15.509
I didn't mention them, Kelsey and Ashley, I think

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they are like they are two just genuinely sweet,

00:18:19.890 --> 00:18:25.549
sweet, sweet girls. And I hope that I hope that

00:18:25.549 --> 00:18:28.130
like the because I'm here's the God's honest

00:18:28.130 --> 00:18:32.750
truth. The fans of Bravo can be vicious. And

00:18:32.750 --> 00:18:37.369
I hope that like they only get the. best of like

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the feedback because I think like I don't I don't

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I don't want any of these women to change like

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even if Rula like is still trying to protect

00:18:43.829 --> 00:18:45.589
that space in her life I don't want her to change

00:18:45.589 --> 00:18:50.109
either I love these women your personalities

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just all work together there's something for

00:18:52.910 --> 00:18:55.109
everyone housewives fan wherever you like the

00:18:55.109 --> 00:18:58.009
villain or the quiet one or the one that's like

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I was talking to Karen about this yesterday about

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how in housewives you have to have like a medium

00:19:02.490 --> 00:19:05.150
housewife you have to have someone that just

00:19:05.589 --> 00:19:07.109
Kind of like if you watch Big Brother, it's like

00:19:07.109 --> 00:19:10.170
a floater, you know, and like just floats through

00:19:10.170 --> 00:19:15.450
a little bit. But they they can, you know, activate

00:19:15.450 --> 00:19:17.890
when they need to and then be chill when they

00:19:17.890 --> 00:19:21.369
need to. But you need to have all different levels

00:19:21.369 --> 00:19:23.230
of housewives to make a successful show. And

00:19:23.230 --> 00:19:25.730
I think that's what they have here. If we're

00:19:25.730 --> 00:19:28.990
talking about the archetypes, like who do you

00:19:28.990 --> 00:19:33.799
think would be the villain in Rhode Island? I

00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:36.640
have a hot take on that that no one's going to

00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:40.200
like. No one's going to like it. Do you know

00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:43.140
who I can see having a villain arc? Joellen.

00:19:43.500 --> 00:19:47.339
Yeah. I knew you were going to say that. Why?

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Why do you think that? Something about her unwillingness

00:19:55.359 --> 00:20:00.680
to let go with that video. Like of her point

00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:06.099
to Lula. Sure. Gave me the inklings of like,

00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:09.240
like obviously not in this situation, but for

00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:13.160
future situations, her like holding on like a

00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:17.319
terrier to something until it's bigger than it

00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:21.319
needs to be kind of. Sure. I can totally see

00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:23.859
that for her. I know people love her. I like

00:20:23.859 --> 00:20:27.259
her. I can see why people love her. But I can

00:20:27.259 --> 00:20:31.160
definitely see that for her, too. Okay. What

00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:34.839
about you, Chantel? I could see Joellen as well.

00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:37.460
Like, you know, second episode, everyone was

00:20:37.460 --> 00:20:39.119
like, oh, Joellen's a villain. She's the villain.

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And I was like, no, I don't think so. Not yet.

00:20:42.220 --> 00:20:43.880
Episode two was too early to pick a villain.

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I can see it. You know what? Another example

00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:50.299
that, and the one you gave, Emma, was great.

00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:54.659
When she was talking with Liz on the beach. And

00:20:54.659 --> 00:20:57.579
Liz was like, Joellen, for three hours, I told

00:20:57.579 --> 00:20:59.460
you to stop touching me. Get your hands off of

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me. You wouldn't do it. And Joellen's like, I

00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:04.700
know, but I kept doing it because I thought.

00:21:04.740 --> 00:21:08.599
And Liz is like, yeah. So she does. She pushes

00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.700
things. She pushes the envelope for sure. Yeah.

00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:15.099
And even her tagline, you know, what's her tagline?

00:21:16.220 --> 00:21:18.819
I'm not mean. I just mean what I say. I say what

00:21:18.819 --> 00:21:21.579
I, yeah. I mean, you know. Yeah. It's right there

00:21:21.579 --> 00:21:24.319
in her tagline, so. That's true. That's true.

00:21:24.420 --> 00:21:26.220
Fair. Okay. Yeah, I could see that with Liz,

00:21:26.220 --> 00:21:29.400
too. I did not. Once they put the, like, clips

00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:33.180
together of Liz swatting her away so many times,

00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.980
I was like, yeah, Joelle and girl, chill out.

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I mean, following her outside in Boston at the

00:21:39.500 --> 00:21:42.759
club and like following her back inside. I would

00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:47.130
be annoyed too. Yeah, I would be annoyed. At

00:21:47.130 --> 00:21:50.069
the club, like in the car, like because I don't

00:21:50.069 --> 00:21:52.089
think I don't think Joellen was the bad guy in

00:21:52.089 --> 00:21:54.470
that scenario at all. I'm sorry. I truly thought

00:21:54.470 --> 00:21:58.210
Joellen was trying to fix it. I think the second

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Liz says, hey, get out of my face. You should

00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:05.130
probably stay out of her face. OK, that's fair.

00:22:05.210 --> 00:22:07.750
And I feel like Joellen, too, is kind of stubborn.

00:22:07.829 --> 00:22:10.250
Like someone will tell her, like, I don't like

00:22:10.250 --> 00:22:11.910
that you're doing that. Liz is the best example

00:22:11.910 --> 00:22:13.769
of this. But Rula, too, will be like, I don't

00:22:13.769 --> 00:22:15.880
like that you're doing this. And she'll just

00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:20.920
keep going. Like they never said it. That's fair.

00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:25.619
That's true. That's very true about her. I can

00:22:25.619 --> 00:22:28.079
see Liz getting her. I'm sorry, Joellen getting

00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:31.160
the villain edit, even though she is of all of

00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:34.720
these women. If I had to pick a favorite, it's

00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:38.119
absolutely Joellen, because number one, I think

00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:40.220
she's amazing. Number two, her husband is so

00:22:40.220 --> 00:22:43.890
obnoxiously hot and like. that like if they ever

00:22:43.890 --> 00:22:46.450
want to swing by all means i'll swing right with

00:22:46.450 --> 00:22:54.769
them well but but um if it's not joellen i'm

00:22:54.769 --> 00:22:58.390
truly like rosie feels like she could be a little

00:22:58.390 --> 00:23:02.369
bit of a sleeper cell because the way that she

00:23:02.369 --> 00:23:06.170
came out swinging with kelsey tells me like she

00:23:06.170 --> 00:23:09.730
is a girl like And Emma and I know a few girls

00:23:09.730 --> 00:23:11.970
like this that like it's like they're cool, they're

00:23:11.970 --> 00:23:14.029
chill, like whatever. And then like when when

00:23:14.029 --> 00:23:18.130
they get set off, it is all bets are off. I'm

00:23:18.130 --> 00:23:21.170
kind of a girl like that, to be honest. I'm kind

00:23:21.170 --> 00:23:24.329
of a girl like that, to be fair to you. I'm a

00:23:24.329 --> 00:23:26.710
Scorpio, so I'm definitely I'm a Scorpio. So

00:23:26.710 --> 00:23:28.369
I'm definitely a little bit like that as well.

00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:33.509
Yeah, I can definitely see her getting like pushed

00:23:33.509 --> 00:23:37.569
to the edge. But like watch it like be like someone

00:23:37.569 --> 00:23:40.970
you would never expect. Like like Ashley. Like

00:23:40.970 --> 00:23:42.829
it's like something's going to like just push

00:23:42.829 --> 00:23:45.930
her over the edge. Just make her flip. Yeah.

00:23:46.170 --> 00:23:50.430
I had to look up Rosie's sign. She's a Taurus.

00:23:52.009 --> 00:23:56.269
I don't know anything about astrology. So yeah.

00:23:56.390 --> 00:23:59.589
So Taurus Taurus is a bull like they're bullheaded.

00:24:00.390 --> 00:24:04.769
OK. I can see. She's also like loyal. And yeah.

00:24:05.379 --> 00:24:07.539
So, OK, I was just curious what her sign was

00:24:07.539 --> 00:24:10.380
because I was like, yeah, I can see that. Nice.

00:24:11.420 --> 00:24:14.599
But I feel like we've talked a lot around it.

00:24:14.660 --> 00:24:16.720
Let's do you guys want to get into the finale

00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:21.819
and unpacking it? Yeah, let's do it. OK, so we

00:24:21.819 --> 00:24:24.380
get the opening shots and like I always love

00:24:24.380 --> 00:24:26.940
the beginning of a finale because like and Emma

00:24:26.940 --> 00:24:28.539
and I just talked about this with Salt Lake City.

00:24:28.660 --> 00:24:32.960
Like we we got the like just like how much happened

00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:36.789
in. in this season and it was this was a short

00:24:36.789 --> 00:24:42.269
it was 13 episodes they packed in a lot like

00:24:42.269 --> 00:24:47.890
this was so so great and then we get to like

00:24:47.890 --> 00:24:50.309
just the opening scene where liz calls kelsey

00:24:50.309 --> 00:24:52.029
while they're getting they're packing for the

00:24:52.029 --> 00:24:56.289
the island trip and um we get a confessional

00:24:56.289 --> 00:24:58.029
where liz says yeah i'm not gonna let the little

00:24:58.029 --> 00:25:00.009
stuff bother me anymore and i immediately was

00:25:00.009 --> 00:25:02.509
like But let's just see how that goes. And I

00:25:02.509 --> 00:25:05.569
was pleasantly surprised by this. But everyone

00:25:05.569 --> 00:25:08.690
starts to get ready to head over to the ferry

00:25:08.690 --> 00:25:12.549
for Block Island. Joellen shows up and it's immediately

00:25:12.549 --> 00:25:17.569
so awkward with with Liz. And also, I know, Chantel,

00:25:17.609 --> 00:25:19.410
you said you take notes, too. So like I take

00:25:19.410 --> 00:25:21.309
notes like a crazy person. Feel free to like

00:25:21.309 --> 00:25:26.240
jump in or whatever, like wherever. because i

00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:29.039
i'm curious like what what you picked up on versus

00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:31.599
like what emma and i typically pick up on um

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:35.480
but like they're all getting on this fairy ashley

00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:39.700
is obnoxiously gorgeous like i like she is so

00:25:39.700 --> 00:25:43.559
pretty and just like naturally pretty and they

00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:47.000
get to this like very like beachy or new england

00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:52.940
new england looking beach and um i i don't like

00:25:53.950 --> 00:25:57.349
you you live in like the in the northeast like

00:25:57.349 --> 00:25:59.970
are all beaches like this because like i mean

00:25:59.970 --> 00:26:03.190
i the only like context i have is like the hamptons

00:26:03.190 --> 00:26:07.089
from went from new york and like i like it looks

00:26:07.089 --> 00:26:09.589
like every beach i was ever at in the hamptons

00:26:09.589 --> 00:26:11.750
like is it are they all like that i think um

00:26:11.750 --> 00:26:14.529
upper like new england area the beaches are like

00:26:14.529 --> 00:26:18.099
that like rocky Rough sea, you know, the rough

00:26:18.099 --> 00:26:22.359
ocean, the waves. Where I live, I go to the beach

00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:25.220
like in Delaware. And it's not like that at all.

00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:29.140
Okay. So it's definitely like a New England type

00:26:29.140 --> 00:26:32.660
beach. But it was gorgeous. I mean, it was so

00:26:32.660 --> 00:26:35.799
pretty. Nice. But apparently it was freezing

00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:39.019
there. Apparently. And like they filmed this

00:26:39.019 --> 00:26:41.180
over the summer. So I'm just like is. Is it just

00:26:41.180 --> 00:26:43.920
cold there like all the time? Right, right. And

00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:45.700
I might be going there in October and I'm like,

00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:51.599
oh, my gosh, I'm going to be freezing. So Joellen

00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.380
decides she wants to take Liz for a walk on the

00:26:53.380 --> 00:26:56.539
beach. And I correct me if I'm wrong, because

00:26:56.539 --> 00:26:59.740
apparently I'm a Joellen apologist. But I've

00:26:59.740 --> 00:27:02.119
I truly felt like she wanted to fix this. And

00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:05.779
I felt like like they edited to they edited it

00:27:05.779 --> 00:27:08.870
to make Liz look like she wasn't that. interested

00:27:08.870 --> 00:27:11.369
but like i i was happy with the way it all ended

00:27:11.369 --> 00:27:13.769
but like do you guys feel like joellen was like

00:27:13.769 --> 00:27:20.970
i i need to fix this yes 100 she was like her

00:27:20.970 --> 00:27:23.289
goal was to make up with liz she said i want

00:27:23.289 --> 00:27:26.430
that the love feeling back in our in our friendship

00:27:26.430 --> 00:27:31.930
um you know she's she told liz um you know i've

00:27:31.930 --> 00:27:35.930
missed you did you miss me and liz was like okay

00:27:36.779 --> 00:27:39.200
Yes. Sure. I forget how exactly it went, but

00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:42.680
but she's pressing her, like pressuring her to

00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:46.259
respond back. And I just let Liz come to you

00:27:46.259 --> 00:27:48.660
or let her say what she wants to say. She wants

00:27:48.660 --> 00:27:52.400
to say it. Don't force her to respond to what

00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:58.420
you're saying. You know, that's fair. So I did

00:27:58.420 --> 00:28:01.519
feel like it was begrudging on Liz's part, but

00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.500
I also felt like Joellen and forgive me, but

00:28:04.500 --> 00:28:07.299
like I felt like Joellen was like, this this

00:28:07.299 --> 00:28:09.220
is real like this is not for the cameras this

00:28:09.220 --> 00:28:11.799
is real like come on like i think she was like

00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:13.940
trying to find something there so like but i

00:28:13.940 --> 00:28:15.940
can see where that would feel like oh my god

00:28:15.940 --> 00:28:17.660
just like let the woman have her feelings which

00:28:17.660 --> 00:28:22.759
is fair um i and i i literally wrote like i honestly

00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:25.960
feel like this all boils down to liz saying a

00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:29.180
lot of shit she just did not mean in the moment

00:28:29.180 --> 00:28:33.589
and like truly if if she I don't know that Liz

00:28:33.589 --> 00:28:36.230
is this person, but like this, this truly would

00:28:36.230 --> 00:28:39.009
have been the perfect thing to blame on menopause.

00:28:39.009 --> 00:28:40.509
Like, cause I would have given her a pass if

00:28:40.509 --> 00:28:43.109
she would have said that. Like I, like, yeah,

00:28:43.269 --> 00:28:50.369
a hundred percent. Um, and then like, I don't

00:28:50.369 --> 00:28:53.019
like, I. As a guy, I don't want to be like, oh,

00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.619
it's a woman. It must be she's going through

00:28:55.619 --> 00:28:57.700
menopause or whatever. It's because I equate

00:28:57.700 --> 00:28:59.400
that to be like, oh, are you on your period?

00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:01.420
I feel like that's such a mean thing to say.

00:29:02.660 --> 00:29:08.619
Well, I'm of the age where I'm perimenopausal,

00:29:08.619 --> 00:29:13.240
so whatever that means. I definitely think that

00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:14.460
it definitely could have been something with

00:29:14.460 --> 00:29:17.279
her, with her hormones just like going haywire

00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:20.559
that made Liz, you know, act the way that she

00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:25.279
did. Yeah. I don't know. I think Liz felt like,

00:29:25.299 --> 00:29:27.220
oh, go ahead. Sorry. No, no, no, please, please,

00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.480
please go ahead. I think that Liz just kind of

00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:32.220
wanted to get it resolved and just get it over

00:29:32.220 --> 00:29:34.660
with. You know, she kind of was like, I want

00:29:34.660 --> 00:29:37.460
to start fresh. I want to start fresh, move forward.

00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.920
And Joellen's like. No, I don't want to start

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:42.700
fresh. I want to go back to where we were before

00:29:42.700 --> 00:29:45.059
all this happened and continue building on what

00:29:45.059 --> 00:29:48.160
we had before. And it kind of ended up just agreeing

00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.079
to start fresh at the end. Well, this is something

00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.880
that we talked about with husbands watching Housewives.

00:29:53.980 --> 00:29:56.480
We're like a trigger for me is when literally

00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.980
anyone is like, oh, let's just start over. Like

00:29:58.980 --> 00:30:02.759
because I I'm like, no, you can't take some stuff

00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.339
back. Like and I think like that, like the breaks

00:30:05.339 --> 00:30:08.509
in a friendship also like. make a friendship

00:30:08.509 --> 00:30:11.950
stronger. And I literally wrote, I love that

00:30:11.950 --> 00:30:14.089
Joellen said, I want to go back to where our

00:30:14.089 --> 00:30:16.849
friendship was and just keep going. Like, cause

00:30:16.849 --> 00:30:20.690
I, I, I, I loved that. I loved that she said

00:30:20.690 --> 00:30:23.190
that. Yeah, I did too. I think that Joellen was

00:30:23.190 --> 00:30:25.369
being very open and very honest, very vulnerable.

00:30:26.029 --> 00:30:32.069
Um, I loved it. Yeah. Um, So Rula, we cut back

00:30:32.069 --> 00:30:33.690
to Rula after we see the guys running around

00:30:33.690 --> 00:30:35.789
the beach and Joellen's hot husband. Like any

00:30:35.789 --> 00:30:38.630
time we get a cutaway to Joellen's husband, I'm

00:30:38.630 --> 00:30:40.390
like, oh, I'm going to mention it because I love

00:30:40.390 --> 00:30:45.289
him. But we get a cutaway to Rula acknowledging

00:30:45.289 --> 00:30:49.069
that she hasn't really been around. And this

00:30:49.069 --> 00:30:51.230
is something that I never really considered where

00:30:51.230 --> 00:30:53.869
she brings up the timing of Joellen bringing

00:30:53.869 --> 00:30:56.190
the thing to her at the polo match. And like

00:30:56.190 --> 00:31:00.420
I. Kind of get where she's coming from with that,

00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.140
because it's like, first of all, you're on camera.

00:31:03.220 --> 00:31:06.339
You are like there's tons of people around. I

00:31:06.339 --> 00:31:08.720
don't know who Rula knew there, but like I have

00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.440
to assume she knew some people there. And it's

00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.599
like I you're you're bringing my cheating, terrible

00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:17.099
husband to me right now. I don't want to deal

00:31:17.099 --> 00:31:19.019
with this right now. But I wish she just would

00:31:19.019 --> 00:31:20.660
have said that in the moment, because that is

00:31:20.660 --> 00:31:25.670
so valid. That is so fair. And she did mention

00:31:25.670 --> 00:31:28.049
that, I think, in the confessional in this last

00:31:28.049 --> 00:31:30.450
episode where she said, you know, the issue was

00:31:30.450 --> 00:31:34.349
that Joellen was wanting to, you know, give her

00:31:34.349 --> 00:31:36.750
the proof, but do it in front of everyone at

00:31:36.750 --> 00:31:39.329
a polo event. Why are you not coming to me privately?

00:31:40.069 --> 00:31:42.369
Number one, it's housewives, so that's not going

00:31:42.369 --> 00:31:46.269
to happen. But number two, number two, I mean.

00:31:47.210 --> 00:31:48.730
I don't know. What do you think about the fact

00:31:48.730 --> 00:31:50.609
that Joellen just showed all the girls when they're

00:31:50.609 --> 00:31:52.369
at the Newport mansion? She just showed them

00:31:52.369 --> 00:31:56.569
all the video before Rula even knew it existed.

00:31:59.190 --> 00:32:03.410
OK, this is the one criticism I can find of Joellen.

00:32:03.450 --> 00:32:08.930
We're like, and by the way, Joellen is a good

00:32:08.930 --> 00:32:11.690
housewife. You cannot say she's not a good housewife.

00:32:12.670 --> 00:32:17.490
I wish that. it didn't go to all the women first

00:32:17.490 --> 00:32:20.130
because because here's the thing joellen went

00:32:20.130 --> 00:32:22.289
to rula and said if you want proof i will find

00:32:22.289 --> 00:32:24.289
you proof like and i truly believe she was being

00:32:24.289 --> 00:32:25.910
a girl's girl there and i think she was doing

00:32:25.910 --> 00:32:29.329
everything in her power to be like i i i've got

00:32:29.329 --> 00:32:35.789
my friends back here and i think that she kind

00:32:35.789 --> 00:32:39.259
of offset that when she took it to the girls

00:32:39.259 --> 00:32:42.160
and it's like whatever and part of part of me

00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.359
can be like well she's making good tv part of

00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:49.500
me can be like oh well she um she she's like

00:32:49.500 --> 00:32:52.500
proving that her her credibility but like i i

00:32:52.500 --> 00:32:54.539
don't think that was right i i will i will agree

00:32:54.539 --> 00:32:58.640
with you i think that that was a rough move yeah

00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.900
and i and i would if i was a little i'd feel

00:33:00.900 --> 00:33:03.259
you know embarrassed humiliated i mean it's embarrassing

00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:06.660
I want you like here's the God's honest truth

00:33:06.660 --> 00:33:08.960
there. There are people that are known in the

00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.680
community like they're like you're not like just

00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.440
a no one that's on the end up on the Real Housewives

00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:17.700
like they have to have some like public facing

00:33:17.700 --> 00:33:23.240
persona. And I mean, he's a doctor. She is a

00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:26.619
financial planner. So they're dealing with people

00:33:26.619 --> 00:33:29.960
in the community. This has to be. one of the

00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:33.140
most humiliating outcomes I can imagine for any

00:33:33.140 --> 00:33:35.019
marriage to begin with. But anyone that knows

00:33:35.019 --> 00:33:39.319
people in your community, that sucks. I she's

00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:47.359
absolutely humiliated. Yeah. But. But I also

00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.400
do like that she does acknowledge because this

00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.099
has been an ongoing conversation, like just like

00:33:52.099 --> 00:33:55.099
after like seeing the season really does acknowledge,

00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:59.390
hey, I haven't been around much and I. she's

00:33:59.390 --> 00:34:01.269
just being honest about it I do like that she

00:34:01.269 --> 00:34:04.329
calls it out because like I think it was a tough

00:34:04.329 --> 00:34:06.089
look to just like be in the bed for half the

00:34:06.089 --> 00:34:07.609
season because like she didn't really leave her

00:34:07.609 --> 00:34:09.769
house for the first half of the season no she

00:34:09.769 --> 00:34:12.690
didn't she was she was asking a lot for a full

00:34:12.690 --> 00:34:16.710
time so um but like I say if you don't show up

00:34:16.710 --> 00:34:19.329
to the events the storyline keeps moving on without

00:34:19.329 --> 00:34:26.300
you so absolutely um and then billy pulls uh

00:34:26.300 --> 00:34:28.179
gary to the side he talks about how he's going

00:34:28.179 --> 00:34:32.059
to redo his engagement to alicia and like i think

00:34:32.059 --> 00:34:36.719
that is so sweet like it was so adorable well

00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:40.960
the whole like just the idea that he like and

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:44.119
devil's advocate you can probably say like uh

00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.699
he knew that like how this is going to look on

00:34:46.699 --> 00:34:51.539
camera and he knew how the bravo sphere is going

00:34:51.539 --> 00:34:54.750
to perceive like I've been with this woman for

00:34:54.750 --> 00:34:56.909
nine years and I haven't like we haven't like

00:34:56.909 --> 00:34:59.730
actually made it official. I I can imagine that

00:34:59.730 --> 00:35:01.550
there was some of that there. But like, I truly

00:35:01.550 --> 00:35:05.289
think that this was coming from a place of like,

00:35:05.369 --> 00:35:08.030
let's do this. Like whatever got him there. I

00:35:08.030 --> 00:35:10.929
really do like that. I do, too. I don't. Yeah,

00:35:11.110 --> 00:35:16.809
I'm iffy on him, Billy. But. But he scored a

00:35:16.809 --> 00:35:18.829
lot of points with that. I know because you could

00:35:18.829 --> 00:35:20.809
tell he was awkward and uncomfortable. And then

00:35:20.809 --> 00:35:23.909
when they showed Rosie and her husband peering

00:35:23.909 --> 00:35:26.369
down from the window, you could see like the

00:35:26.369 --> 00:35:28.849
one Bravo cameraman just there filming. And I'm

00:35:28.849 --> 00:35:31.610
like, it has to be so awkward for him right now.

00:35:31.889 --> 00:35:35.650
But he did a great job. He did. And Alicia really,

00:35:35.769 --> 00:35:37.110
I mean, she deserved that. When she told her

00:35:37.110 --> 00:35:39.730
engagement story the first time around. Oh, my

00:35:39.730 --> 00:35:45.579
Lord. I. I couldn't I couldn't I was like you

00:35:45.579 --> 00:35:48.460
got a fudgesicle at the like he didn't even ask

00:35:48.460 --> 00:35:50.460
you a question he was like it's on the dresser

00:35:50.460 --> 00:35:53.860
pick up take your big pregnant self up and go

00:35:53.860 --> 00:35:55.840
look at the ring I bought you on top of the dresser

00:35:55.840 --> 00:36:01.260
I was I think I was texting you while like I

00:36:01.260 --> 00:36:03.639
was like while that scene was on and I was like

00:36:04.409 --> 00:36:06.250
i was like i there's no way i heard that right

00:36:06.250 --> 00:36:08.070
i had to like rewind that and watch it because

00:36:08.070 --> 00:36:10.829
i was like oh this was just trash like the original

00:36:10.829 --> 00:36:15.170
engagement was trash yeah um but then we cut

00:36:15.170 --> 00:36:17.429
back to rula and she starts to talk about the

00:36:17.429 --> 00:36:19.750
video where she's like hey let's let's call it

00:36:19.750 --> 00:36:23.730
out because i don't think and correct me if i'm

00:36:23.730 --> 00:36:26.849
wrong i don't we haven't seen joellen actually

00:36:26.849 --> 00:36:29.329
talk to rula about the video yet the only person

00:36:29.329 --> 00:36:31.590
that's talked to her about it is Rosie, right?

00:36:31.809 --> 00:36:34.469
It's Rosie. Yeah. Yeah. At the Arabian Nights

00:36:34.469 --> 00:36:39.150
party. Yep. OK. And it finally seems like, OK,

00:36:39.230 --> 00:36:40.710
we've got something from Rula. She's going to

00:36:40.710 --> 00:36:42.610
come out swinging like because the way she was

00:36:42.610 --> 00:36:45.869
talking about it, I was like, we're we're getting

00:36:45.869 --> 00:36:51.610
something real. Right. And then we go start going

00:36:51.610 --> 00:36:54.349
back and forth between that. And then we get

00:36:54.349 --> 00:36:56.530
a cutaway to Kelsey unpacking the video situation

00:36:56.530 --> 00:36:58.929
with Joellen. And I'm sorry, it was Kelsey that

00:36:58.929 --> 00:37:02.460
talked to her about it, not Rosie. Right. Oh,

00:37:02.460 --> 00:37:08.300
my gosh. At the Arabian Nights party. It was

00:37:08.300 --> 00:37:12.179
I did a whole video on this. I think it was Kelsey

00:37:12.179 --> 00:37:13.579
because they were the ones talking. Kelsey was

00:37:13.579 --> 00:37:15.079
like, oh, yeah, it didn't seem like she really

00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:16.619
wanted. Because, yeah, it was Kelsey because

00:37:16.619 --> 00:37:18.380
she was like, oh, yeah, they talked about how

00:37:18.380 --> 00:37:21.159
it was AI and like timestamped or whatever. Oh,

00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.659
right. OK, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. OK, so I

00:37:23.659 --> 00:37:26.099
also like couldn't tell the difference between

00:37:26.099 --> 00:37:28.380
Kelsey and Rosie for a very long time. It took

00:37:28.380 --> 00:37:30.380
me probably to like episode four or five. So,

00:37:30.380 --> 00:37:36.239
yeah, I agree. But so there she's unpacking that

00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:42.639
with Joelle and Alicia. And the way so like Emma

00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.099
kind of alluded to this earlier, where like we

00:37:45.099 --> 00:37:47.920
get this like intense, like she's she takes things

00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.849
really, really far. talks about how she's not

00:37:51.849 --> 00:37:53.809
a liar. And like the way she said it, she's like,

00:37:53.869 --> 00:37:55.929
I'm not a liar. And like, I think part of that

00:37:55.929 --> 00:37:58.210
probably stems back to like the childhood thing

00:37:58.210 --> 00:37:59.989
where like, cause you heard her mom call it out

00:37:59.989 --> 00:38:03.650
with the lies or whatever. I have a feeling that's

00:38:03.650 --> 00:38:05.329
where some of that's coming from, but like, it

00:38:05.329 --> 00:38:10.719
was very intense. It was. And then we cut back

00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.599
to Rula and like I literally wrote because like

00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:14.820
there there's not an ugly woman on this cast.

00:38:14.940 --> 00:38:16.880
I just want to start there. But like Rula is

00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.159
so hot. Like how could anyone ever see her? She's

00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:26.860
gorgeous. And then. All the women start to go

00:38:26.860 --> 00:38:29.460
into the hotel and I hate this hotel. Like Emma

00:38:29.460 --> 00:38:31.219
and I have talked a lot on this podcast about

00:38:31.219 --> 00:38:34.460
like how I'm a Marriott Bonvoy loyalist. Like

00:38:34.460 --> 00:38:37.719
it is that is that like I couldn't stay in this

00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:41.639
hotel. I hate most wallpapers and that wallpaper

00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:44.199
in each room was not beating those allegations.

00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:48.099
I hated it so much. Yeah, it definitely was giving

00:38:48.099 --> 00:38:53.440
like early, early century, you know, historic

00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:57.159
hotel. Do you know what? Like, I couldn't stop

00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.400
thinking about in each one of these rooms is

00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:01.219
like Anne of Green Gables. Like, that's what

00:39:01.219 --> 00:39:04.480
it was. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. OK. Yeah, that's totally

00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:10.460
it. Yeah. Yeah. And then. Hi, beautiful. I'm

00:39:10.460 --> 00:39:13.000
back. I couldn't even unmute myself to tell you

00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:16.679
I was stepping away. I just texted Travis because

00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:22.519
the screaming was intense. Glad you're back.

00:39:23.739 --> 00:39:27.159
I almost called it out because I feel like I

00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:29.340
have a habit of just like never shutting up.

00:39:29.380 --> 00:39:30.780
And I was like, Emma's actually on mute. You

00:39:30.780 --> 00:39:35.099
guys don't be mad at me. No, no, no, no, no.

00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:39.219
I, um, I had to mute myself. He was like freaking,

00:39:39.219 --> 00:39:40.739
he's going through one of those stages where

00:39:40.739 --> 00:39:43.340
babies go through, like he will not calm down

00:39:43.340 --> 00:39:47.079
for dad, you know, go through it for like 15

00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:48.880
minutes. And that's why I kept muting myself

00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:51.659
and unmuting. And so I was like, all right, all

00:39:51.659 --> 00:39:54.659
right, all right. It's okay. Yeah, it's all good.

00:39:55.300 --> 00:39:59.219
I have to be so honest. Like I, part of the charm

00:39:59.219 --> 00:40:02.960
of this podcast, Emma, I think is like, this

00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:06.539
is being as unprofessional as the day is long,

00:40:06.619 --> 00:40:08.679
not knowing what we're doing. And like, but also

00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:10.579
like, it's, there's, there's such like, we're

00:40:10.579 --> 00:40:12.579
not polished about it. And I'm like, yeah, Emma's

00:40:12.579 --> 00:40:14.320
baby's fucking crying. What do you want? Like,

00:40:14.380 --> 00:40:17.139
I mean, it's real life. It's real life. Yeah.

00:40:17.900 --> 00:40:22.559
It's fine. but it does make for a fun time editing

00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.900
I like sent a thing to Emma this is like a full

00:40:25.900 --> 00:40:28.380
segue but like I sent a thing to Emma like where

00:40:28.380 --> 00:40:33.079
they're like I have to cut out like 20 minutes

00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.519
at a time of like me like if something happens

00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.420
with the baby and I'm just like oh my Christ

00:40:37.420 --> 00:40:46.969
like we're still um but yeah it's um so we're

00:40:46.969 --> 00:40:48.570
like getting the shots like of everyone like

00:40:48.570 --> 00:40:52.789
unpacking in the hotel and uh that joelle and

00:40:52.789 --> 00:40:54.969
her hot husband are unpacking their like feelings

00:40:54.969 --> 00:40:57.869
about the ruler situation and then we cut over

00:40:57.869 --> 00:40:59.849
to ruler running around in her cover up with

00:40:59.849 --> 00:41:01.750
a slit all the way up her legs and it's like

00:41:01.750 --> 00:41:06.869
i hate any interaction with brian like i i understand

00:41:06.869 --> 00:41:09.170
like you're like this is your husband and like

00:41:09.170 --> 00:41:11.969
if you want to stay with him like i get it like

00:41:11.969 --> 00:41:14.619
whatever I hate seeing him on my screen. I hate

00:41:14.619 --> 00:41:16.860
him so much. Like, he, like, makes me angry.

00:41:16.940 --> 00:41:20.420
And he's, like, the only bad part of this show,

00:41:20.699 --> 00:41:25.480
honestly, in my mind. I know. Yeah, I agree.

00:41:25.619 --> 00:41:31.840
Not a fan. He's so, like, outside of the cheating.

00:41:32.059 --> 00:41:35.280
He's, like, so icky, too. Like, the Versace crew

00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.980
neck and all. Ugh. Like, I don't want it. Like,

00:41:39.980 --> 00:41:43.420
ugh. Like, oh, did you dress up for the camera?

00:41:43.619 --> 00:41:50.159
Shut up. Yeah, he he's just a cheater, cheater,

00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.239
pumpkin eater. I just I don't even I just can't.

00:41:53.659 --> 00:41:59.880
That's it. So Billy takes Alicia out to the the

00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:04.500
like the his plan. And like, I couldn't see this.

00:42:04.579 --> 00:42:06.280
Like when I saw that it was like the candles

00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:07.980
in the circle. This is how they used to summon

00:42:07.980 --> 00:42:11.610
ghosts on Charmed. It was a heart. It was in

00:42:11.610 --> 00:42:15.590
the shape of a heart. Was it? Oh, it was? No.

00:42:16.289 --> 00:42:18.329
Oh, I thought it was just a circle of candles.

00:42:18.590 --> 00:42:21.349
Oh, I missed the heart. And I watched it twice.

00:42:21.409 --> 00:42:28.429
I totally didn't get that. But like, I love this

00:42:28.429 --> 00:42:30.889
scene because I, this was real. Like, this is

00:42:30.889 --> 00:42:36.409
like, you can tell. Like, you. Alicia reminds

00:42:36.409 --> 00:42:39.369
me so much of my aunt Tanya. And she is someone

00:42:39.369 --> 00:42:41.550
who it's like, I'm just going to keep talking.

00:42:41.630 --> 00:42:42.969
And like, whatever's on my mind, it's just going

00:42:42.969 --> 00:42:44.110
to come out of my mouth. And it's like, I want

00:42:44.110 --> 00:42:46.250
to cry. Like, Oh, you didn't get any snacks while

00:42:46.250 --> 00:42:47.789
we're out here. I love champagne. Like, and it's

00:42:47.789 --> 00:42:50.369
just like, she's just like, this is her. And

00:42:50.369 --> 00:42:51.929
she's like, you didn't give me a new ring. You

00:42:51.929 --> 00:42:53.349
didn't give me this. And I'm, and she's like

00:42:53.349 --> 00:42:55.369
telling the guy, she's like, Oh, he did a bad

00:42:55.369 --> 00:42:57.590
job with the first engagement. And I'm like,

00:42:57.610 --> 00:43:01.250
I love this so much. Cause like, yeah, this is

00:43:01.250 --> 00:43:06.059
their real relationship. oh it was and the emma

00:43:06.059 --> 00:43:08.699
like tell like you if if you don't mind me sharing

00:43:08.699 --> 00:43:11.739
this emma texted me earlier and she's like my

00:43:11.739 --> 00:43:14.159
hormones are still not in a place but it was

00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:18.739
like not even the moment itself i do love seeing

00:43:18.739 --> 00:43:22.289
a man show up for a woman when she tells him

00:43:22.289 --> 00:43:25.610
she needs it and i thought it was so cute it

00:43:25.610 --> 00:43:28.610
was the girls watching outside of their windows

00:43:28.610 --> 00:43:33.869
i know that was so sweet i know and then all

00:43:33.869 --> 00:43:35.610
and then they were cheering and everything once

00:43:35.610 --> 00:43:38.090
you put the ring back on her finger it was the

00:43:38.090 --> 00:43:41.389
sweetest especially like watching with their

00:43:41.389 --> 00:43:47.239
husbands like oh yeah And it felt so genuine,

00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.119
like it was they weren't putting it on for the

00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.260
camera. They were all like, I'm really excited

00:43:51.260 --> 00:43:54.940
for my friend. Like, I loved that. I don't think

00:43:54.940 --> 00:43:58.440
it was like an original part of like their unpacking

00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.820
scenes for them to see it because some of them

00:44:00.820 --> 00:44:03.139
didn't see it. You know what I mean? Oh, the

00:44:03.139 --> 00:44:04.920
ones that were in the other that weren't in the

00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.659
main house didn't see anything. Yeah. I feel

00:44:07.659 --> 00:44:09.619
like they would have like called them to like

00:44:09.619 --> 00:44:11.619
the bar to watch or something. You know what

00:44:11.619 --> 00:44:13.619
I mean? Like if that were going to be the scene,

00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.340
I feel like it was just an inorganic. Oh, like

00:44:17.340 --> 00:44:19.340
it wasn't on the call sheet. You mean? Yeah.

00:44:19.940 --> 00:44:23.510
Yeah. I. No, I completely agree. And like, I

00:44:23.510 --> 00:44:25.369
think that's what makes this so much better is

00:44:25.369 --> 00:44:27.630
like because you see like they're like, what

00:44:27.630 --> 00:44:29.289
is happening out there? Like what's going on

00:44:29.289 --> 00:44:30.969
out there? And then they realize what's happening.

00:44:31.130 --> 00:44:36.449
And I was like, oh, yeah, I just oh, my gosh.

00:44:36.489 --> 00:44:38.610
The fact that he's like, I'm not romantic. I

00:44:38.610 --> 00:44:40.710
don't know how to do these things. And he's and

00:44:40.710 --> 00:44:44.929
he said I made a note that he said he was worried

00:44:44.929 --> 00:44:48.449
that she was going to think he was dumb. And

00:44:48.449 --> 00:44:51.880
I was like, oh, my God. Gosh, I just was like,

00:44:51.940 --> 00:44:54.739
and, you know, and you can tell, like, he's not,

00:44:54.739 --> 00:44:56.699
you know, this is not his thing, but he definitely

00:44:56.699 --> 00:44:58.699
worked with the hotel, got the flowers, got it

00:44:58.699 --> 00:45:00.920
set up, got her champagne and all the things.

00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:04.760
So, you know, it just really, after everything

00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.699
else he's done this season with Pizza Mama and

00:45:07.699 --> 00:45:09.739
all the little comments he's made here and there,

00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:12.280
this kind of redeemed him for me at the end.

00:45:12.420 --> 00:45:14.860
I like him too. And then I have one other thing

00:45:14.860 --> 00:45:21.900
to say. No, no, please go ahead. So I was also

00:45:21.900 --> 00:45:25.880
touched by the fact that he like before when

00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:28.900
they were on the beach, he was like man enough

00:45:28.900 --> 00:45:31.420
to tell one of the other husbands that like he

00:45:31.420 --> 00:45:34.719
wanted to do this and he needs help. Yes. It

00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:38.579
has to take like some balls to be like, I'm doing

00:45:38.579 --> 00:45:41.960
a romantic gesture, girl. I don't know. You know?

00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:45.460
Well, no, he he did. He took Gary's finance aside

00:45:45.460 --> 00:45:48.719
and said, hey, you've known Alicia since she's.

00:45:48.969 --> 00:45:51.329
six years old right like what do you think about

00:45:51.329 --> 00:45:57.449
this and like how this I know I I could like

00:45:57.449 --> 00:46:01.750
that was so good like oh I was I couldn't get

00:46:01.750 --> 00:46:05.889
enough of that yeah um but I want to like so

00:46:05.889 --> 00:46:07.989
for I want to talk about Billy for one second

00:46:07.989 --> 00:46:13.789
because I think he got kind of a bad rap with

00:46:13.789 --> 00:46:15.710
the whole like I didn't put her name on the house

00:46:15.710 --> 00:46:19.070
and like I didn't she's not like part owner of

00:46:19.070 --> 00:46:22.130
pizza mama like yes that is that is a rough look

00:46:22.130 --> 00:46:26.489
but like do you guys remember the episode where

00:46:26.489 --> 00:46:29.329
uh alicia did like the presentation of like this

00:46:29.329 --> 00:46:31.190
is what i want to do for pizza mama and like

00:46:31.190 --> 00:46:33.510
i want i and she she talked about what she wanted

00:46:33.510 --> 00:46:37.670
in that moment i got the impression that billy

00:46:37.670 --> 00:46:42.329
is a guy that is a lot like my papa who he just

00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:45.500
Like it goes without saying that like things

00:46:45.500 --> 00:46:47.019
are just going to be taken care of because he

00:46:47.019 --> 00:46:49.360
does say like, yeah, I have an estate plan. And

00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:51.239
like, if God forbid something happens to me,

00:46:51.300 --> 00:46:53.840
yeah, you will be taken care of. And it's something

00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:55.780
that Alicia needed to hear. But it's something

00:46:55.780 --> 00:46:58.820
that Billy, I think, thought went without saying.

00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:02.940
So like that was kind of my redemption arc for

00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:05.340
him. And like this just put the cherry on top

00:47:05.340 --> 00:47:12.599
for me. I mean, would it be nice? To me, the

00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:20.039
sign print under her not being named is that

00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:23.699
if they were to split up before they got married,

00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:27.019
especially, she wouldn't get to be a part of

00:47:27.019 --> 00:47:32.019
it. But I genuinely feel like after seeing the

00:47:32.019 --> 00:47:35.780
full season, I don't think in Billy's head they

00:47:35.780 --> 00:47:40.170
will ever, ever split up. No, I 100 percent agree.

00:47:40.230 --> 00:47:43.869
I think that in their mind or in Billy's mind,

00:47:43.929 --> 00:47:45.710
he's just like, you know, like whether or not

00:47:45.710 --> 00:47:47.730
we get married, like this is just my person.

00:47:47.789 --> 00:47:49.929
Like, that's OK. Like, yeah, they have a child

00:47:49.929 --> 00:47:53.630
together. You know, I mean. Yeah. And he's like

00:47:53.630 --> 00:47:57.429
present in there, even though he's like a businessman,

00:47:57.809 --> 00:48:04.440
obviously. Yeah. So then we start like we. We

00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:06.940
get all of the like cheering for them. It was

00:48:06.940 --> 00:48:10.880
God, that was so good. And then everyone starts

00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:14.980
to head to the bar for dinner. And that's where

00:48:14.980 --> 00:48:18.980
Joellen is going to go talk to Rula. And this

00:48:18.980 --> 00:48:23.099
like the next the episode from this point on

00:48:23.099 --> 00:48:25.360
did not stop in my mind. I was like this. They

00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.820
are firing on all cylinders. This is good stuff.

00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:32.659
So Joellen. looked incredible like joellen's

00:48:32.659 --> 00:48:35.420
hot like like she is like just hot to begin with

00:48:35.420 --> 00:48:37.739
but like which when she wears the dresses that

00:48:37.739 --> 00:48:39.920
are like cut out like right under her boobies

00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:43.679
and like it's she's showing a lot of skin i like

00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.659
i yeah love that i love those dresses yeah she's

00:48:47.659 --> 00:48:52.280
very hot very hot um i love the dress that rula

00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:54.880
is wearing because like rula does color very

00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.579
well like and like she's got i i feel like rula

00:48:57.579 --> 00:49:01.139
could make a burlap sack look good but like she

00:49:01.139 --> 00:49:06.019
the body is gorgeous too um i also thought they

00:49:06.019 --> 00:49:08.559
complemented each other like the blue of joelle's

00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.219
dress was the same blue of frula's dress oh yeah

00:49:11.219 --> 00:49:13.960
yeah that's true and like they weren't speaking

00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:15.760
at this point so you know they didn't plan that

00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.699
i was just like women know what they look good

00:49:18.699 --> 00:49:24.320
in um but then brian shows up down at the bar

00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:26.340
looking sweaty and gross and i hate him so much

00:49:26.340 --> 00:49:29.750
that's literally just what i wrote and joe ellen's

00:49:29.750 --> 00:49:33.590
hot husband gary pulls brian aside and i would

00:49:33.590 --> 00:49:39.650
he's the the him defending his wife i'm like

00:49:39.650 --> 00:49:43.809
oh like like i can't get enough gary love gary

00:49:43.809 --> 00:49:47.130
but he pulls her pulls her aside he's like hey

00:49:47.130 --> 00:49:51.650
let's let's talk about this video brian fully

00:49:51.650 --> 00:49:53.949
admits that it's real he's like yeah the video

00:49:53.949 --> 00:49:56.659
is real where he's been gaslighting Rula and

00:49:56.659 --> 00:49:58.460
everyone else around him so I'm like why why

00:49:58.460 --> 00:50:00.480
are you gonna be like that with Gary and like

00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:02.199
be honest with him but like lie to all the women

00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:07.340
I hate you for that and and this is what Gary

00:50:07.340 --> 00:50:10.480
is like I don't care what you do I don't like

00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:11.840
if you're gonna whatever you're doing you're

00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:13.559
doing like whatever you need to deal with you

00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.820
need to deal with do not call my wife a liar

00:50:16.820 --> 00:50:20.500
and I was like god he is so hot oh I was gonna

00:50:20.500 --> 00:50:25.789
say he's so hot in that moment And I literally

00:50:25.789 --> 00:50:29.110
wrote like, if I ever get married, that is what

00:50:29.110 --> 00:50:31.369
I need my future husband to be just like that.

00:50:33.349 --> 00:50:35.530
He was not he wasn't playing anymore. He was

00:50:35.530 --> 00:50:38.110
tired of the whole summer, everyone calling her

00:50:38.110 --> 00:50:42.510
a liar, making it you know, why is Joellen the

00:50:42.510 --> 00:50:45.969
issue? You know, she's not the issue. She's not

00:50:45.969 --> 00:50:48.230
the problem. Brian, Brian is the problem. The

00:50:48.230 --> 00:50:51.329
cheater is the problem. I don't I don't I don't

00:50:51.329 --> 00:50:54.099
like how. The whole season or this whole, you

00:50:54.099 --> 00:50:56.519
know, she's just fighting for her life. You know,

00:50:56.579 --> 00:50:59.400
like for her care, for her character. You know,

00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:04.820
I'm not a liar. Yes. So Rula and Joellen have

00:51:04.820 --> 00:51:07.179
their conversation and it cuts back to that.

00:51:07.340 --> 00:51:12.719
And I thought this is this is something you don't

00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:14.840
get a lot in Housewives, where this is two women

00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:18.139
who know how to communicate. And I thought they

00:51:18.139 --> 00:51:19.639
did such a good job in that conversation because

00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:25.170
it could have gone. so bad and I think Rula did

00:51:25.170 --> 00:51:27.210
a great job of saying okay this is why I feel

00:51:27.210 --> 00:51:30.409
the way I do and Joellen said I thought you said

00:51:30.409 --> 00:51:32.690
you wanted me to get proof I like that's what

00:51:32.690 --> 00:51:35.050
I thought I was helping and I'll buy that like

00:51:35.050 --> 00:51:38.510
did she did she mess up a little bit 100 % absolutely

00:51:38.510 --> 00:51:42.150
but I think her heart was always in the right

00:51:42.150 --> 00:51:47.110
place and I like the way that ended and then

00:51:47.110 --> 00:51:50.519
Joellen heads down to dinner Gross, sweaty Brian

00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:53.860
walks by Joellen and I'm like, oh, how dare you

00:51:53.860 --> 00:51:59.000
grace that woman's presence? I have an observation

00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.739
and Chantel, I feel like you're going to have

00:52:01.739 --> 00:52:05.019
a great take on whether I'm crazy or not. OK,

00:52:05.139 --> 00:52:10.400
but I felt like maybe the age difference between

00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:14.280
Rula and Joellen was relevant here because I

00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:18.690
feel like. joellen to an extent was almost like

00:52:18.690 --> 00:52:23.309
excited she had the tea and rula was annoyed

00:52:23.309 --> 00:52:26.269
by that and wanted it to be more like i'm so

00:52:26.269 --> 00:52:28.070
sorry you're going through this girl but you

00:52:28.070 --> 00:52:30.170
said you wanted me to find proof and so here

00:52:30.170 --> 00:52:33.110
it is like in private and i think that might

00:52:33.110 --> 00:52:37.650
be like an age discrepancy thing thoughts um

00:52:37.650 --> 00:52:40.489
that's a great question i'm looking up their

00:52:40.489 --> 00:52:45.559
ages really quick um Well, so Rula owns a financial

00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.159
planning firm, so that puts her at a minimum

00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:52.019
in her mid 40s, because I'm like, you don't you

00:52:52.019 --> 00:52:54.500
don't you don't just do that in your 30s. Like,

00:52:54.500 --> 00:52:59.019
yeah, Rula's estimated to be 46 and Joellen 38.

00:53:00.659 --> 00:53:02.840
Yes, that's older than I thought for Joellen.

00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:04.820
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's not an age thing,

00:53:04.940 --> 00:53:07.880
but that is kind of like the dynamic I picked.

00:53:08.449 --> 00:53:11.570
No, I think you're 100 percent right. Yeah, I

00:53:11.570 --> 00:53:13.530
think you're right, too. And I think, too, it's

00:53:13.530 --> 00:53:20.329
also their culture. You know, I think I made

00:53:20.329 --> 00:53:23.190
a comment early on. I forget what it is now,

00:53:23.329 --> 00:53:26.170
but a comment about, you know, they don't talk

00:53:26.170 --> 00:53:27.690
about this kind of stuff in her family. You know,

00:53:27.730 --> 00:53:30.730
it's hush hush. It's private. It's quiet. And

00:53:30.730 --> 00:53:32.530
then you have Joellen on the flip side telling,

00:53:32.630 --> 00:53:35.469
you know, all of Rhode Island what's going on.

00:53:35.590 --> 00:53:39.309
And so I can totally understand why. Rula felt

00:53:39.309 --> 00:53:41.670
that way. And I'm glad that Rula said, told her

00:53:41.670 --> 00:53:44.630
how she felt versus, because remember when she

00:53:44.630 --> 00:53:46.429
was talking to the women or before, before at

00:53:46.429 --> 00:53:48.849
the beach, she was like, I don't want to talk

00:53:48.849 --> 00:53:50.530
to Joella right now, but you guys can tell her

00:53:50.530 --> 00:53:52.530
this message for me. And Liz was like, no, you

00:53:52.530 --> 00:53:54.510
can tell her your damn self. She was like, I'm

00:53:54.510 --> 00:53:57.730
not going to relay this message for you. I love

00:53:57.730 --> 00:53:59.670
the way Liz said that though, where she's like,

00:53:59.730 --> 00:54:01.730
no, no, no, no, no. You need to like, you need

00:54:01.730 --> 00:54:04.190
to speak your truth. You need to be honest. I

00:54:04.190 --> 00:54:10.079
loved that. Yeah, me too. I think that's the

00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:14.719
real being a girl's girl. Yeah, it's supporting

00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.099
your friend, but also letting them know, like,

00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:19.360
you need to speak up for your own self. Push

00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.239
her into her strength. Yeah, absolutely. And

00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.360
I think and I like that is I never once thought

00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:26.980
about that, Emma, because I think you're right.

00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:31.739
Like, I think we we this is one of the. younger

00:54:31.739 --> 00:54:34.599
groups of women like on average that we've seen

00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:36.260
on housewives because like i think when you think

00:54:36.260 --> 00:54:38.579
of real housewives you typically think mid 40s

00:54:38.579 --> 00:54:41.219
early 50s or like in ramona singer's case like

00:54:41.219 --> 00:54:46.699
almost 70 and like that no that's completely

00:54:46.699 --> 00:54:48.519
valid it's like i don't think we've seen such

00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:52.480
a skewed not not a skewed age gap is like the

00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:54.559
the worst way to say this but like i do think

00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:56.460
there there's a there's a difference in maturity

00:54:56.460 --> 00:54:59.929
almost i think that's completely fair 100 Yeah.

00:54:59.949 --> 00:55:03.369
Yeah. And it can even just be like a personality

00:55:03.369 --> 00:55:07.530
thing. You know, some people like the gossip,

00:55:07.590 --> 00:55:10.070
like the tea, like all of that. But like you

00:55:10.070 --> 00:55:13.269
said, Rula comes from a family where like if

00:55:13.269 --> 00:55:16.329
the whole state, because Rhode Island is a dot

00:55:16.329 --> 00:55:19.489
on a map. Yeah. If the whole state is talking

00:55:19.489 --> 00:55:22.789
about it and that leads to the end of your marriage,

00:55:22.809 --> 00:55:26.530
especially like that, I can see that being so

00:55:26.530 --> 00:55:30.849
taboo and like. Oh, sure. And I feel like maybe

00:55:30.849 --> 00:55:33.949
she didn't come to Joelle's defense as much as

00:55:33.949 --> 00:55:38.510
maybe you or I would have, because it's like

00:55:38.510 --> 00:55:42.429
the easy out in that instance would be to call

00:55:42.429 --> 00:55:44.329
her a liar. Like if she's telling the whole state

00:55:44.329 --> 00:55:46.889
of Rhode Island what's going on, even if it's

00:55:46.889 --> 00:55:48.710
breaking your heart and it's true and it's real,

00:55:48.849 --> 00:55:51.590
but you don't want to tarnish the reputation

00:55:51.590 --> 00:55:54.489
like that. It's easy to just be like, no, she's

00:55:54.489 --> 00:55:59.989
lying. Absolutely. Yeah. But then the women head

00:55:59.989 --> 00:56:04.409
out to dinner and it just looks like the worst.

00:56:04.690 --> 00:56:07.090
It's cold. It's windy. They have those like heating

00:56:07.090 --> 00:56:10.849
lamps up. I'm like, girl, you couldn't have done

00:56:10.849 --> 00:56:12.610
this in the dining room. But like, I do love

00:56:12.610 --> 00:56:14.409
an outside dinner because like it takes me back

00:56:14.409 --> 00:56:17.730
to season. What was Monica Garcia's season of

00:56:17.730 --> 00:56:19.869
Salt Lake City? That was season four where they

00:56:19.869 --> 00:56:21.949
like did the thing on the beach. Like it took

00:56:21.949 --> 00:56:24.510
me back to that. I was like, I love a good outside

00:56:24.510 --> 00:56:28.159
dinner. It's I can't get it out of there. Like

00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:30.179
I told you, I write notes like I'm insane. I

00:56:30.179 --> 00:56:31.940
like I just start writing my thoughts sometimes.

00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:34.400
I'm like, I feel like I wouldn't be super into

00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.000
a clam bake, but I like the idea of this vibe.

00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.500
I like I just wish I was into seafood because

00:56:40.500 --> 00:56:42.699
like I feel like I would love to go to a clam

00:56:42.699 --> 00:56:46.199
bake. I would not enjoy the food, though. Yeah,

00:56:46.380 --> 00:56:49.780
I don't I don't like clams or things like that.

00:56:49.900 --> 00:56:51.760
I don't like seafood in general. I'm picky on

00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:55.909
I'm picky on seafood. i love all i'm so jealous

00:56:55.909 --> 00:56:58.110
of you because i'm it's so good for you but like

00:56:58.110 --> 00:57:00.650
i it's a texture thing for me i don't know but

00:57:00.650 --> 00:57:06.469
um yeah yeah and then we i i'm such a hypocrite

00:57:06.469 --> 00:57:08.710
about this because like when we did this with

00:57:08.710 --> 00:57:10.170
husbands watching housewives i was like oh of

00:57:10.170 --> 00:57:12.130
course the first thing they do is pull out a

00:57:12.130 --> 00:57:13.809
game where it's like we're gonna get to know

00:57:13.809 --> 00:57:15.949
each other better and then i literally wrote

00:57:15.949 --> 00:57:20.170
oh my god yeah they're playing another game really

00:57:20.170 --> 00:57:24.489
because i was I've thought about the games like

00:57:24.489 --> 00:57:27.969
in this specific series. It's kind of silly,

00:57:28.230 --> 00:57:30.289
right? Because they all already know each other.

00:57:30.389 --> 00:57:32.590
Like you're not going to find out any new genuine

00:57:32.590 --> 00:57:37.090
information. It's all just. I I think part of

00:57:37.090 --> 00:57:39.949
this is the producers pushing the women to be

00:57:39.949 --> 00:57:42.329
like, this is this is for the audience. Like,

00:57:42.349 --> 00:57:46.710
do you remember, Emma, when we talked about Secret

00:57:46.710 --> 00:57:49.530
Lives of Mormon Wives and like Jesse, every change

00:57:49.530 --> 00:57:54.320
she got pulled out that. damn truth box oh yes

00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:58.199
yes and i'm just like this is a hundred percent

00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:01.000
like they were like hey like let's do a call

00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:04.599
back to episode one i thought this was executed

00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:06.579
much better though because these were very good

00:58:06.579 --> 00:58:09.460
questions i thought these like this it feels

00:58:09.460 --> 00:58:11.679
like someone sat down and like thought this out

00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:13.699
like it was like the the people that make like

00:58:13.699 --> 00:58:16.739
that card game in the red box the like uh we're

00:58:16.739 --> 00:58:18.460
not really strangers game i'm like oh someone

00:58:18.460 --> 00:58:22.940
actually thought through this But that's just

00:58:22.940 --> 00:58:28.039
me. Yeah. The questions were good. Yes. We get

00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:31.219
like I didn't care about any other question except

00:58:31.219 --> 00:58:34.860
for Rula's question, which is. Yes. Literally,

00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:37.099
what is the most embarrassing thing your partner

00:58:37.099 --> 00:58:40.059
has done in public? And like the way that I gay

00:58:40.059 --> 00:58:42.699
gasped when that question came up and she looked

00:58:42.699 --> 00:58:46.239
at her husband and this is where I think she

00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:50.130
started to break. like is when she like this

00:58:50.130 --> 00:58:52.130
was I think hard and then I think it was Liz

00:58:52.130 --> 00:58:54.289
or someone that said like it doesn't have to

00:58:54.289 --> 00:58:56.409
be about your husband like you can you can throw

00:58:56.409 --> 00:58:57.929
it to someone else and then she throws it to

00:58:57.929 --> 00:59:01.750
Gary who said I don't think I don't think Joellen's

00:59:01.750 --> 00:59:04.610
ever embarrassed me and like like I'm just like

00:59:04.610 --> 00:59:07.010
you don't have a bad answer in you dude I love

00:59:07.010 --> 00:59:14.469
you I know but like this is I think this is where

00:59:14.469 --> 00:59:16.940
like the wheels start to turn a little bit And

00:59:16.940 --> 00:59:20.380
do you remember this is a deep cut, but there

00:59:20.380 --> 00:59:23.639
was an episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey

00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:27.420
where they're all at a party and something I

00:59:27.420 --> 00:59:31.400
don't remember exactly what Teresa did, but she

00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:34.440
said they she said they better not use this footage.

00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:36.579
And I think Melissa was the one who said, oh,

00:59:36.659 --> 00:59:38.000
they're absolutely going to use it. And then

00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:41.239
Teresa, like, oh, yeah, yeah, because I think

00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:44.239
she realized, like, oh. America's going to see

00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:47.619
exactly what happened in my marriage. And I think

00:59:47.619 --> 00:59:53.159
I obviously reacted differently, but like. Yeah.

00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:55.920
Like seeing her break a little bit and like seeing

00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:58.659
just how bad Brian was at being like, hey, no,

00:59:58.820 --> 01:00:00.119
like everything's going to because he was like,

01:00:00.139 --> 01:00:02.940
you put aside your ego. And I'm like, you cheated

01:00:02.940 --> 01:00:05.679
on her. You trash. I couldn't. I was like, you

01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.960
are. I'm like, and she was like ego. And he was

01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:11.719
like, oh, I'm going to use the right words or

01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:13.559
just don't like he doesn't even know how to say

01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:18.489
anything consoling to her at all. I just don't

01:00:18.489 --> 01:00:20.690
understand it. I feel like if you're going to

01:00:20.690 --> 01:00:24.090
take a man back after he cheats, he should be

01:00:24.090 --> 01:00:27.610
kissing your toes and nothing else. Like, shut

01:00:27.610 --> 01:00:30.889
up. In this scenario, like the only thing that

01:00:30.889 --> 01:00:32.789
should have come out of his mouth is I'm sorry

01:00:32.789 --> 01:00:36.590
for what I did. I'm sorry that like, I'm sorry.

01:00:36.630 --> 01:00:38.269
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's all you can say.

01:00:38.489 --> 01:00:47.050
I've embarrassed. I was wrong. I, we've never

01:00:47.050 --> 01:00:49.449
heard him say any of those things to her that

01:00:49.449 --> 01:00:53.110
we've seen that I can, no, he's just the video,

01:00:53.110 --> 01:00:55.369
you know, the timestamp can be, can be altered.

01:00:55.449 --> 01:00:59.389
You know, it's, I just, I can't with him. Like,

01:00:59.489 --> 01:01:04.900
okay, Brian, I just. I really hope they just

01:01:04.900 --> 01:01:07.619
like don't show him anymore if she's going to

01:01:07.619 --> 01:01:10.440
stay with him. I have a feeling that he's so

01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:13.940
sleazy and gross. And I feel like his reaction

01:01:13.940 --> 01:01:18.360
to everything and the way he just kind of like

01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:22.059
breezes through it, if anything, is just an indication

01:01:22.059 --> 01:01:24.780
to me that he is still cheating. Oh, absolutely.

01:01:24.940 --> 01:01:29.079
And like, do you. Yeah, the toast is like really

01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:31.780
what set me over the edge for him, because I

01:01:31.780 --> 01:01:33.980
literally wrote Brian opens his whore mouth and

01:01:33.980 --> 01:01:36.639
does a little toast where he was like, well,

01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.719
cheers to this, because everyone knows more about

01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:41.599
us than we know about ourselves. And I was like,

01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:44.820
shut your whore mouth. I hate you. You trash

01:01:44.820 --> 01:01:48.760
man. Shut up, Brian. Yeah, he made that comment

01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:51.880
about thanks for making us the most popular couple

01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:53.820
or most talked about couple. And I was like,

01:01:53.940 --> 01:01:56.239
you're not taking this seriously, dude. You're

01:01:56.239 --> 01:01:58.179
not taking this seriously at all. Your wife is

01:01:58.179 --> 01:02:01.280
right here bawling her eyes out. You've embarrassed

01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:05.239
her for all these months. And oh, thanks for

01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:07.019
making us popular. She doesn't want to be popular,

01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:09.719
dude. No. She's not interested in that. Like.

01:02:09.860 --> 01:02:12.099
She wants her life to stay, her home to be stable.

01:02:12.300 --> 01:02:18.320
Yeah. And like. The only scenario in which I

01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:21.280
can accept any of his behavior is if Rula said.

01:02:22.190 --> 01:02:25.469
cover it up we are going to put a good face on

01:02:25.469 --> 01:02:27.610
for the show and that's going to be that and

01:02:27.610 --> 01:02:31.329
like deny deny deny i feel like even then you

01:02:31.329 --> 01:02:35.989
feel even yes i agree yeah oh i hate him but

01:02:35.989 --> 01:02:42.030
we get the the comedic relief of a lifetime with

01:02:42.030 --> 01:02:46.500
alicia who is wasted I think she started drinking

01:02:46.500 --> 01:02:49.380
at that proposal and just continued drinking

01:02:49.380 --> 01:02:51.519
because like. And yeah, she never she didn't

01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:53.760
stop. She didn't stop at all. She was wasted.

01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:57.719
I love her so much because I mean, she I mean,

01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:00.219
she looks like she weighs like 26 pounds soaking

01:03:00.219 --> 01:03:04.880
wet. And I know, I know, I know. I was thinking

01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:07.239
I was like two glasses of wine or champagne for

01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:09.400
her. And I'm sure she's already like, you know,

01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:12.340
two sheets to the wind. So, yeah, she would not

01:03:12.340 --> 01:03:14.460
stop talking. She would not let Joelle. in a

01:03:14.460 --> 01:03:16.480
rule of talk she wouldn't let anyone talk and

01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:18.940
then billy's like alicia she's like i can say

01:03:18.940 --> 01:03:23.179
it's just hilarious she's so funny what i love

01:03:23.179 --> 01:03:26.860
because she's like i was like oh no this she's

01:03:26.860 --> 01:03:28.920
gonna keep talking and like she's like joellen

01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:30.820
tell her tell her you didn't tell her you weren't

01:03:30.820 --> 01:03:32.119
trying to tell her you had her your back you

01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:35.400
tell her tell her tell her and i was like she

01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:40.000
can't but then joellen was like It was so we're

01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.059
going to keep it private. And Alicia just wouldn't

01:03:42.059 --> 01:03:44.760
drop it. And I was like, oh, no, she would not

01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:47.519
drop it at all. I know she woke up the next morning

01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:51.260
with the worst anxiety in the world. No, I don't

01:03:51.260 --> 01:03:52.940
believe that for a second. I believe she woke

01:03:52.940 --> 01:03:56.320
up fresh as a daisy. She I believe she woke up

01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:58.699
like Sonia Morgan after a night of drinking and

01:03:58.699 --> 01:04:02.739
she's like on to the next one. Just feels nothing.

01:04:02.739 --> 01:04:06.500
Feels nothing. I feel like if she if not hung

01:04:06.500 --> 01:04:09.789
over. If that were me, like that moment would

01:04:09.789 --> 01:04:11.710
play over and over and over in my head. Like,

01:04:11.750 --> 01:04:15.429
why didn't I just shut up? But I'm so glad she

01:04:15.429 --> 01:04:17.469
didn't. Like, that's the God's honest truth.

01:04:17.510 --> 01:04:20.650
I know I loved it. It was beautiful. But then

01:04:20.650 --> 01:04:25.869
the other thing that I think was so telling was

01:04:25.869 --> 01:04:30.159
like all these other women hate Brian and. Rosie

01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.940
looks at Joellen's and says, Joellen, you are

01:04:32.940 --> 01:04:34.800
not the problem. The problem is sitting right

01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:38.099
next to me and points at Brian. And I like, yes,

01:04:38.139 --> 01:04:42.019
that moment was like, I literally wrote, I just

01:04:42.019 --> 01:04:47.420
love these women. I. Yes, I was like, yes, yes,

01:04:47.460 --> 01:04:51.460
yes. I was like, call it out. I love it. I love

01:04:51.460 --> 01:04:54.440
it. And then. Because what is he going to say?

01:04:54.500 --> 01:04:58.480
You know, I love. a group of girls that can set

01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:02.539
their problems aside for a con a common male

01:05:02.539 --> 01:05:09.159
enemy yes and then 100 we get the closing cards

01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.179
of like it's like oh yeah like we the cute little

01:05:12.179 --> 01:05:14.300
like i i didn't read a single one of them because

01:05:14.300 --> 01:05:16.719
like i was like finishing my notes and then i

01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:23.210
forgot that brian got arrested And I was like,

01:05:23.269 --> 01:05:24.750
I literally wrote, oh, my God, there's more.

01:05:24.869 --> 01:05:28.809
I forgot about the arrest. And then we get the

01:05:28.809 --> 01:05:30.929
scene of some of the women going over to Rula's

01:05:30.929 --> 01:05:32.730
house to like process the arrest and like the

01:05:32.730 --> 01:05:36.269
tracker situation. And I have a question about

01:05:36.269 --> 01:05:39.849
this. Because I listened to the Bravo docket

01:05:39.849 --> 01:05:42.369
talk about like how because in the state of Rhode

01:05:42.369 --> 01:05:44.389
Island, if there's a tracker found in the car,

01:05:44.570 --> 01:05:48.150
because from what I understand, BMW made Rula

01:05:48.150 --> 01:05:53.159
go to. the police department and like that's

01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:55.719
that's why the charges got filed and because

01:05:55.719 --> 01:05:59.340
it was a domestic violence charge or having a

01:05:59.340 --> 01:06:01.360
tracker and stalking is considered domestic violence

01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:06.500
they had to pursue the arrest but did am I like

01:06:06.500 --> 01:06:08.699
completely misremembering this or did Rula not

01:06:08.699 --> 01:06:11.440
say at the polo match to Joelle and I have a

01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:20.579
tracker in Brian's car did she say that I don't

01:06:20.579 --> 01:06:24.239
remember if it was exactly that. I have to go

01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:26.599
back and look because I swear to God, I remember

01:06:26.599 --> 01:06:30.139
her saying because it came right before because

01:06:30.139 --> 01:06:32.099
she said like something about like, oh, he I

01:06:32.099 --> 01:06:34.219
have a GPS tracker. He goes to the gym every

01:06:34.219 --> 01:06:37.440
morning. And then Joellen said, does Brian look

01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:40.539
like he goes to the gym like that? I kept replaying

01:06:40.539 --> 01:06:41.880
that in my mind and I haven't gone back to rewatch

01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:44.380
that because I'm like, I am positive she said

01:06:44.380 --> 01:06:46.940
she has a GPS tracker. So I guess my question

01:06:46.940 --> 01:06:54.809
is, is like. Did. Why? Why did she if she has

01:06:54.809 --> 01:06:57.070
a GPS tracker in his car, either a does he know

01:06:57.070 --> 01:07:03.269
about it or B? Is it? I don't know. I have a

01:07:03.269 --> 01:07:07.769
conspiracy. If this is all true. If this is all

01:07:07.769 --> 01:07:13.500
true. What if? That is the tracker she was referring

01:07:13.500 --> 01:07:17.539
to. And Brian is taking the fall for it because

01:07:17.539 --> 01:07:21.039
he knows he's a rotten asshole and Rula shouldn't

01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:23.039
be arrested. Why would she have talked about

01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:29.219
it on camera then, I guess? Well, we know it's

01:07:29.219 --> 01:07:32.139
illegal. If she talked about it on camera, like,

01:07:32.219 --> 01:07:36.730
or not, or got charges or not. it's illegal to

01:07:36.730 --> 01:07:38.369
put a tracker on someone's car unless they know

01:07:38.369 --> 01:07:40.590
about it like that's that's the that's the thing

01:07:40.590 --> 01:07:42.510
that like the bravo docket girls kept saying

01:07:42.510 --> 01:07:46.449
like hey like if it's knowing like it's fine

01:07:46.449 --> 01:07:48.469
but like it's the knowledge of it that is the

01:07:48.469 --> 01:07:53.829
like the indicator in my mind he she just like

01:07:53.829 --> 01:07:58.309
had his location like like 360 or something but

01:07:58.309 --> 01:08:00.989
i don't remember actually yeah i can't remember

01:08:00.989 --> 01:08:05.380
either if she said it directly sure It would

01:08:05.380 --> 01:08:07.380
make more sense if maybe she just has like my

01:08:07.380 --> 01:08:10.199
360 or his location or something. But I would

01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:12.079
imagine he would turn our location off. That

01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.380
makes more sense. Because like if she has like

01:08:14.380 --> 01:08:16.439
find my and she's saying it's a GPS tracker,

01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:18.899
like maybe that's what she's talking about. OK,

01:08:19.020 --> 01:08:22.020
that's yeah, that's that's more believable. And

01:08:22.020 --> 01:08:24.159
then like it's like, oh, you took it one step

01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:26.659
further and you took one that I can't. turn off

01:08:26.659 --> 01:08:29.220
like and that's but i guess like i wonder how

01:08:29.220 --> 01:08:32.119
she or why she thought there was a tracker i

01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:35.020
i i hope we get more about that in season two

01:08:35.020 --> 01:08:38.119
because or at the reunion i hope even at the

01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:43.819
reunion i hope he was trying to prove that she's

01:08:43.819 --> 01:08:47.619
hooking up with someone else and god for it oh

01:08:47.619 --> 01:08:50.520
like he was like so insecure about like his indiscretions

01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:53.079
that she's like oh maybe she like trying to like

01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:56.350
find something she's done wrong Or if he doesn't

01:08:56.350 --> 01:08:59.069
want to get fucked over in the divorce and he

01:08:59.069 --> 01:09:01.390
knows that the whole divorce is because he cheated.

01:09:01.829 --> 01:09:04.449
And then if he can prove that she also cheated,

01:09:04.529 --> 01:09:06.909
then then, you know, maybe it'll go over easy.

01:09:07.029 --> 01:09:10.449
No, that's actually really good. I like that.

01:09:12.510 --> 01:09:15.789
Yeah. And then I wonder, well, she dropped the

01:09:15.789 --> 01:09:17.789
charges. She did. She said she didn't want to

01:09:17.789 --> 01:09:20.789
press charges because because it's considered

01:09:20.789 --> 01:09:23.590
a domestic violence charge in the state of Rhode

01:09:23.590 --> 01:09:27.239
Island. So. I have to imagine that like there's

01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:28.960
some implications there, like where he would

01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:31.079
probably lose his medical license because it's

01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:34.399
like one of those things where. Right. I mean,

01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:36.979
she's a she's a financial planner. Like you're

01:09:36.979 --> 01:09:38.560
really going to ruin your chances of getting

01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:40.960
alimony and child support if you do get divorced.

01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:44.279
No, that's not going to happen. Yeah. It might

01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:50.720
also strain like custody of their kids. And she

01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:53.909
probably doesn't want to do that, you know. I

01:09:53.909 --> 01:09:55.869
think she might be staying for the kids, for

01:09:55.869 --> 01:09:57.810
her family, to keep her family together. She

01:09:57.810 --> 01:10:00.710
also did talk about early in the season how,

01:10:00.829 --> 01:10:02.510
like, because I think the producer asked her

01:10:02.510 --> 01:10:04.329
in a confessional, like, isn't this your second

01:10:04.329 --> 01:10:06.550
marriage? And she was like, my family doesn't

01:10:06.550 --> 01:10:09.130
like when I talk about that or something. I imagine

01:10:09.130 --> 01:10:11.510
that there's probably some level of shame there

01:10:11.510 --> 01:10:15.069
with, like, I am divorced. Well, they're a Middle

01:10:15.069 --> 01:10:18.220
Eastern family, right? They're Lebanese. I feel

01:10:18.220 --> 01:10:20.720
like it goes back to like not talking about cheating.

01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:24.619
They probably also can't talk about divorce.

01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:28.060
Yeah. Because the cultural constraints there

01:10:28.060 --> 01:10:32.699
are like very like it's it's it's very like the

01:10:32.699 --> 01:10:36.060
way some of my family is like because of the

01:10:36.060 --> 01:10:37.920
church where it's like you stay in the marriage

01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:39.920
and you figure it out, like whatever it takes.

01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:42.720
And I. Right. I'm a person where I'm like, I

01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.100
love divorce. Like, let's do it some more. Let's

01:10:45.100 --> 01:10:48.640
get married just to get divorced. Yeah, I mean,

01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:52.859
me too. But like, I feel like if you grow up

01:10:52.859 --> 01:10:56.840
around, like if you feel different from everyone

01:10:56.840 --> 01:11:00.779
else already being Middle Eastern, and then like,

01:11:00.859 --> 01:11:04.060
you just have to take what your family says as

01:11:04.060 --> 01:11:06.539
the truth, because you know, your culture is

01:11:06.539 --> 01:11:08.479
different from everyone else's. So you have to

01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:10.840
like follow that. I feel like that would play

01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:14.199
a part too. I agree. Absolutely. I think she's

01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:16.560
playing a role. Ruelas is playing a role right

01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:21.479
now. And I would love to see the mask fall down.

01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:27.920
I'm excited for the reunion. Yeah. I just, I

01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:29.359
don't know. I found it interesting and people

01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:31.319
online were like, I don't understand why he would

01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:33.279
be tracking her car. And I was just like, for

01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:36.720
me, it came to me immediately. I was like, so

01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:39.340
he knows when the mistress needs to leave. They

01:11:39.340 --> 01:11:42.000
did say that, yeah. Or leave the office. You

01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.100
know, it's like he needs to know where she's

01:11:44.100 --> 01:11:47.380
at so that he can control getting the other woman

01:11:47.380 --> 01:11:50.100
out of the way. You know, or, oh, shoot, she's

01:11:50.100 --> 01:11:51.979
on her way to the office. Like, you need to leave.

01:11:52.060 --> 01:11:56.140
I mean, I don't know. But we don't even know

01:11:56.140 --> 01:11:57.699
what kind of escapades he's going on. He can

01:11:57.699 --> 01:12:00.659
be like on actual dates and need to make sure

01:12:00.659 --> 01:12:02.880
that she's not alone for all we know. Would he

01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.920
be? Like, I'm this. I think it was the broth

01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:12.529
bros asked, like, who's dating him? No idea.

01:12:12.909 --> 01:12:15.430
Because podiatry is one of the more lucrative

01:12:15.430 --> 01:12:18.449
medical fields to go into. And if he's doing

01:12:18.449 --> 01:12:21.670
Ozempic and Botox out of his office, there's

01:12:21.670 --> 01:12:23.789
some revenue stream there. Unless it's for the

01:12:23.789 --> 01:12:28.930
money, I don't get it. I can see it being younger

01:12:28.930 --> 01:12:32.710
girls looking for a sugar daddy situation because

01:12:32.710 --> 01:12:36.930
of all the brand labels and stuff like that that

01:12:36.930 --> 01:12:43.199
he does. I could see that. But like other otherwise,

01:12:43.699 --> 01:12:50.699
I have no idea. This truly and I texted this

01:12:50.699 --> 01:12:52.640
Chantel, I texted this to Emma this morning.

01:12:52.699 --> 01:12:56.560
This is the best first season of A Real Housewife

01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:59.420
City we've ever gotten. Like I said, one of earlier,

01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:03.020
this is this is this is it like start to finish.

01:13:03.079 --> 01:13:06.119
Not a single not a single filler episode, not

01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:07.939
a single episode where I was like, oh, we could

01:13:07.939 --> 01:13:13.810
have done without that. so good yeah every single

01:13:13.810 --> 01:13:18.329
scene has been great um i just i'm sad that it's

01:13:18.329 --> 01:13:22.010
i am too but like what's interesting is i think

01:13:22.010 --> 01:13:25.350
it was like the third or fourth episode was that

01:13:25.350 --> 01:13:27.510
that's what lined up with the bravo up fronts

01:13:27.510 --> 01:13:30.510
and That was already renewed. So they were like

01:13:30.510 --> 01:13:33.029
they're they were getting back to filming fast.

01:13:33.270 --> 01:13:36.170
Like it was like, yeah, I think this first couple

01:13:36.170 --> 01:13:38.609
of seasons is going to be like a like a Secret

01:13:38.609 --> 01:13:40.470
Lives of Mormon Wives situation where it's like

01:13:40.470 --> 01:13:43.149
they don't really get a break from filming. So

01:13:43.149 --> 01:13:46.909
I'm. Yeah, just back to back. Yeah. I know they're

01:13:46.909 --> 01:13:50.829
going to start filming like in July. Oh, that's

01:13:50.829 --> 01:13:53.989
like for season two. That's like. Yeah. Yeah.

01:13:56.699 --> 01:14:00.359
That's what my sources tell me. Because me and

01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:02.199
a few other creators are planning a trip to Rhode

01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:05.079
Island. And we're trying to figure out dates.

01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:07.899
And one of the dates was like July 31st through

01:14:07.899 --> 01:14:10.159
August 2nd, when there possibly would be filming.

01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:13.319
But I think we're going to end up going in the

01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:17.399
fall instead. I... Yeah. I think it would be

01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.000
so beautiful in the fall. I know. And fall is

01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:21.640
my favorite season. So I'm like, that's actually

01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:23.539
perfect. Oh, it is? Yeah, I'm like, it's perfect

01:14:23.539 --> 01:14:25.979
for me. Yes, I love fall. This is going to be

01:14:25.979 --> 01:14:30.720
good. Some warm, like, seafood soup. Oh, my God.

01:14:30.739 --> 01:14:35.520
Like a crab. Oh, my gosh. It's beautiful. So.

01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:39.859
Crunchy leaves is the best. I know. I might have

01:14:39.859 --> 01:14:42.180
to join you in Rhode Island. I would love a trip

01:14:42.180 --> 01:14:45.840
to Rhode Island. I've never been. Yeah, me neither.

01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:51.159
I never wanted to go until now. I know. I always,

01:14:51.180 --> 01:14:53.859
if anything, do you remember the tirade I went

01:14:53.859 --> 01:14:55.899
on one time about how we should delete Rhode

01:14:55.899 --> 01:14:58.319
Island as a state? I do very fondly remember

01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:00.279
that. You were like, what are they here for?

01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:06.100
Right, right. That little blip. So a question

01:15:06.100 --> 01:15:10.079
for everyone. Who, now that it's all said and

01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:12.220
done, who would you want to be friends with from

01:15:12.220 --> 01:15:18.670
this cast? Ooh. I've said the same girl all season.

01:15:19.050 --> 01:15:22.550
Maybe I just like love it for a sight head over

01:15:22.550 --> 01:15:27.090
heels for her. I love Liz. I love her so much.

01:15:27.430 --> 01:15:31.210
I she really resonates with me. She's too cool

01:15:31.210 --> 01:15:33.069
to be friends with me, though. And I will stand

01:15:33.069 --> 01:15:38.829
on that. I think Liz would be friends with us.

01:15:38.949 --> 01:15:41.170
I really believe that. Like, I think she'd be

01:15:41.170 --> 01:15:43.189
like, come to my huge house. Let's go out on

01:15:43.189 --> 01:15:47.329
this like long dog. Let's go for a walk. Yeah,

01:15:47.470 --> 01:15:51.569
I think more realistically, though, Alicia seems

01:15:51.569 --> 01:15:56.229
like a good time gal. What about you, Chantel?

01:15:58.090 --> 01:16:05.829
Oh, that's hard. Gosh, I want to go with. Oh,

01:16:05.989 --> 01:16:10.470
OK. My first gut reaction was Rosie. Just because

01:16:10.470 --> 01:16:15.260
she's fun. But then I'm thinking more. Liz, even

01:16:15.260 --> 01:16:17.680
though she was a little unhinged, you know, those

01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:21.619
couple episodes, she just seems like she's fun.

01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:24.279
She's easygoing. She likes to be on the water.

01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:30.119
So do I. My only thing with Liz is that I feel

01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:31.720
like I might accidentally call her Dolores by

01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:37.020
accident. I've heard that. I've heard that. Do

01:16:37.020 --> 01:16:40.600
you know, in the finale, when she's on the beach

01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:42.880
with Joellen especially, I'm like, oh my God.

01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:47.020
that that's crazy she looks like her I mean it's

01:16:47.020 --> 01:16:53.220
insane if I okay what about you Travis if I had

01:16:53.220 --> 01:16:57.300
to pick like I feel like naturally I'm gonna

01:16:57.300 --> 01:17:00.880
say Joellen like but if I'm talking about like

01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.800
someone who like obviously joelle love joelle

01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:05.680
and but like if i'm if i'm like thinking about

01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:08.319
who like i can see myself truly like a friendship

01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:10.600
like emma and i have like where it's like we

01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:13.000
hang out like there's like it it's it's easy

01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:16.760
it's simple like we're just good friends i truly

01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:22.239
think ashley would be an incredible friend like

01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:26.199
she's like she's cool she's sweet she's she and

01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:29.359
she's just easy like it's like it doesn't feel

01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:32.720
like she's like putting on a show it's like She

01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:34.640
just seems really sweet. I really, really like

01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:39.640
her. She seems like the most real out of all

01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:42.760
of the cast in the sense of like, I see that

01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:47.000
girl every day when I'm out and about. And I

01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:49.239
love that about her. She's like very accessible,

01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:51.960
even though she's like not obviously, you know,

01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:57.340
she's doing glam and her husband's so hot. But

01:17:57.340 --> 01:18:04.069
she's like, she seems very down to earth. But

01:18:04.069 --> 01:18:13.630
what a good season. Like, wow. Yeah. Chantel,

01:18:13.649 --> 01:18:15.210
tell the people where they can find you. Tell

01:18:15.210 --> 01:18:17.310
it. Tell everyone the besties where you are.

01:18:17.449 --> 01:18:22.430
Yes. So I am on Instagram, TikTok and Reddit

01:18:22.430 --> 01:18:27.630
under Purple Panda Pants. All one word. Where

01:18:27.630 --> 01:18:30.899
did Purple Panda Pants come from? Oh, so that

01:18:30.899 --> 01:18:33.600
is my Reddit username that I came up with like

01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:35.420
10 years ago. I've been on Reddit for 10 years.

01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:39.380
And so purple is my favorite color because I

01:18:39.380 --> 01:18:41.819
was a kid and I've loved panda bear since I was

01:18:41.819 --> 01:18:45.260
a kid. And the pants part, I needed a third word

01:18:45.260 --> 01:18:50.220
and it just came out. It means nothing other

01:18:50.220 --> 01:18:51.840
than the purple and the panda part, but it's

01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:55.550
just silly. I like it. it's cute no i mean it's

01:18:55.550 --> 01:18:57.569
memorable people are gonna remember panda pants

01:18:57.569 --> 01:19:01.789
i noticed like because i mean obviously we don't

01:19:01.789 --> 01:19:03.949
have a ton of followers on tiktok but like your

01:19:03.949 --> 01:19:06.229
like screen name stood out to me because i was

01:19:06.229 --> 01:19:09.069
like i i love that like and i like i never cared

01:19:09.069 --> 01:19:11.090
where it came from i just i was like i love her

01:19:11.090 --> 01:19:14.250
like i and i'm so glad that we were able to make

01:19:14.250 --> 01:19:17.090
the connection and like do this because this

01:19:17.090 --> 01:19:21.239
is we we were talking about this earlier but

01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:23.640
like when emma when you got on but like i i think

01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:27.340
that this space of like creators supporting creators

01:19:27.340 --> 01:19:30.380
and like the bravo world where like there there

01:19:30.380 --> 01:19:32.899
is a genuine fandom there of like us just loving

01:19:32.899 --> 01:19:36.960
to talk about like this this what people think

01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.539
is garbage but like it is some of like my favorite

01:19:40.539 --> 01:19:43.699
stuff i love this and i'm just i'm really happy

01:19:43.699 --> 01:19:45.859
you were able to come on today and we we love

01:19:45.859 --> 01:19:49.229
having you Thanks for having me. This was so

01:19:49.229 --> 01:19:51.430
much fun. You guys are awesome. Thank you. Thank

01:19:51.430 --> 01:19:55.789
you for being gracious. Oh my gosh, Emma. I'm

01:19:55.789 --> 01:19:58.050
a mom too, so I totally get it. It's totally

01:19:58.050 --> 01:20:00.770
fine. I had a great time. I hope I can come back.

01:20:00.869 --> 01:20:02.970
This was fun. Yeah, I hope we can do it again

01:20:02.970 --> 01:20:05.069
too. The door is always open. Wait, do you want

01:20:05.069 --> 01:20:09.989
to talk about the reunion? What about it? What

01:20:09.989 --> 01:20:12.130
do you mean? Are you asking me? The Rhode Island

01:20:12.130 --> 01:20:15.350
reunion. Do you want to do it again? Yeah, sure.

01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:19.779
watching i think that would be fun well besties

01:20:19.779 --> 01:20:22.140
let me just um we know that's coming back let

01:20:22.140 --> 01:20:24.439
me just check one thing because i have i'm going

01:20:24.439 --> 01:20:29.140
i'm going to okay yeah um oh yeah oh sunday's

01:20:29.140 --> 01:20:32.659
father's day yeah um yeah and then i'll be watching

01:20:32.659 --> 01:20:34.500
that on sunday but if we want to do like the

01:20:34.500 --> 01:20:36.960
same day i mean monday at same time or something

01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:42.220
just let me figure it out i'm open but as always

01:20:42.220 --> 01:20:47.329
from indie to outside of the what it's a What's

01:20:47.329 --> 01:20:51.810
the county? Surrey County Courthouse? Where did?

01:20:52.069 --> 01:20:57.210
Oh, for Karen's thing? Yeah. Surrey County is

01:20:57.210 --> 01:20:58.829
where she's originally from. Yes, thank you.

01:20:58.930 --> 01:21:03.750
Yeah, in Virginia. As always, from Indy to outside

01:21:03.750 --> 01:21:05.970
of the Montgomery County Courthouse to Rhode

01:21:05.970 --> 01:21:08.670
Island to wherever you listen, we love you. Thank

01:21:08.670 --> 01:21:10.229
you for being here. Thank you for loving us and

01:21:10.229 --> 01:21:11.069
we'll see you next time.