April 23, 2026

this might be the end of #MomTok.

this might be the end of #MomTok.
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This week, Travis and Emma are unpacking politics, Needohs, moms hiding in closets, and a wild reality roundup. Nothing is off limits this week, so hang out with us while we go on this wild ride.

timestamps

0:00:12 last songs we listened to

0:01:00 Emma's hiding in the closet

0:03:34 Bryon Noem's lovely big tits

0:11:36 Nēdos

0:16:16 Heidi healing her inner child

0:23:07 complaining

0:34:30 reality roundup

0:34:46 new rules on RHOSLC

0:39:51 our thoughts on Ladies of London

0:42:13 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

0:54:08 some love for our podcast friends

0:55:42 RHOSLC season 1 episode 11 recap

this week we dive into:

  • Emma hiding in a closet during Auggie’s nap time and the unimaginable lengths moms will go to for a moment of peace.
  • tittie time with Byron Noem, hypocrisy, and performative homophobia. (McCreesh 2026)
  • grown ups being so obsessed with Nēdos that they’re mowing families down in Target to get one. (Notopoulos 2026)
  • the woman dressing up like Junie B Jones and dancing up and down the aisles of Target to heal her inner child. (Heidi (@classicheidi) 2026)
  • Emma complains about the hellscape of elementary school soccer leagues and Travis complains about his Pappaw’s new obsession with Facebook Marketplace.

reality roundup

  • the new rules in contracts for The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. (Smith 2026)
  • our thoughts on Ladies of London.
  • our complicated feelings about The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and why it might be the end of #MomTok. (Chinman, Mandell, and Flam 2026)
  • Travis and Emma finally get to revisit The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City!

RHOSLC season 1 episode 11: “All Bets Are Off”

  • the unsettling dynamic in the Cosby household.
  • Whitney’s family dinner with her dad, brother, and sister brings up some feelings for Travis.
  • Heather goes on a dream double date with Jen and Coach Shah. Hopefully Big Daddy got his Slurpee on the way home…
  • the women (minus Mary) go on their first cast trip to Las Vegas and are greeted with a fun poem.
  • Lisa and Meredith seem to find some resolution with Whitney on the racetrack.
  • Jen has a complete inability to let literally anything go.

from Indy to wherever you listen to podcasts, we love you!

this might be the end of #MomTok. © 2026 by Travis Rhoden and Emma Hesser is licensed under CC BY-NC 4.0.

00:00 - last songs we listened to

01:00 - Emma's hiding in the closet

03:34 - Bryon Noem's lovely big tits

11:36 - Nēdos

16:16 - Heidi healing her inner child

23:07 - complaining

34:30 - reality roundup

34:46 - new rules on RHOSLC

39:51 - our thoughts on Ladies of London

42:13 - Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

54:08 - some love for our podcast friends

55:42 - RHOSLC season 1 episode 11 recap

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Okay, take three. Hi, I'm Travis. I'm Emma. And

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this is Bestie Approved. Yay. What was the last

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song you listened to? The last song I listened

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to was Use Me, Brutal Hearts by Diplo, Dove Cameron,

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and Johnny Blue Skies. I don't care if it makes

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me unk. I think I'll love Diplo until I die.

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I love Diplo. Yeah. What was the last song you

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listened to? You by Lloyd. I was listening to

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2000 R &B hits. Love. I think it means 2000s.

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I'm sure that's exactly what it means. Yeah.

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Really beautiful era of music. Especially for

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cleaning. That's like perfect cleaning music

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to me. We have a lot on the list today. Yeah.

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So I have to imagine. The first thing on the

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list is a pretty universal experience of mothers.

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But I was FaceTiming with Emma this had to have

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been last week. And it's like one, two o 'clock

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in the afternoon. And I could tell she'd been

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having a day. And then she like takes, she like

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goes into her bedroom. She lays down with baby

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August and he like dozes off. And then all of

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a sudden I see Emma just closing herself in her

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closet. so I want to unpack that a little bit

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um okay so it's all connected to if your baby

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sees you it's over and so when he's asleep or

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about to be asleep and I put him in his bed I

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have to say, I love you. Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss.

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While I'm walking into the room, because the

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second he touches the mattress, I scooped out

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of there. I'm out because he'll start whining.

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He wants me to pick him up. And same thing if

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he can hear me. And so sometimes I just have

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to hide. And I feel like everyone does it to

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some extent, but I really like I'll just close

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the closet because I don't even want to think

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about if I'm being too loud or anything like

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that. I just need to like not be there. Well,

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it took me a minute to realize what was happening,

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but I see you just like surrounded by clothes.

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And I said. For a second, I was like, is she

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having a mental breakdown? Like, that's immediately

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where my mind went. I was like, she's in the

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closet. She's hiding. She's like, we're about

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to lose touch with reality for a second. And

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then I said, are you hiding in your closet? She

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goes, yes, yes, I am. It's a must. No, it's fine.

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And, like, I'd be lying if I said I had not hidden

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in my closet before, like, just from the world.

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So I think it's okay. I think it's fine. Yeah.

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It's comfy in there. And if you think about it,

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all the clothes is kind of like soundproofing.

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Yeah, like muffling. Yeah. Your tears. Right.

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In my existence. Yeah. Here I am. The range of

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shit on our list today. Yeah, there's a lot of.

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So I want to unpack. that cunt christy melms

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husband like so he could be one of the cock destroyers

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because he's like over here he's like look at

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these big lovely tits i love it oh hi guys look

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at these lovely big tits do you know what we

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are we're fucking cock destroyers aren't we babe

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fucking destroyers fucking cock destroyers um

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and I have to. So for anyone who's been living

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under a rock, Kristi Noem's husband has been

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reported by the Daily Mail to allegedly love

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putting on a drag queen breastplate because that's

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what he's wearing in the pictures and little

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pink biker shorts. Yeah. And I don't know what

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after that, but like talk to women on OnlyFans

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sometimes, I guess. I know what. Did you not

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see? He's shit talking. Yes. Well, I saw that,

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too. And like, I have to imagine the hardest

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part Christina was having with it is the fact

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that it came out on Transvisibility Day because

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I think she wanted to give no light to that day.

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I have to imagine that was like someone pulling

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the string like that. That's God doing his work.

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100%. Sidebar, there's nothing connier than putting

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on fake tits, pink biker shorts, getting online,

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and shitting on Kristi Noem. No. It's being married

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to her that puts it over the edge, okay? I'm

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not judging this man for his actions. Here's

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the gods on the truth. If he wants to go out

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and put on his big, lovely tits and be a bimbofication,

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I want him to live his truth in that. That's

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what I want for him. I'm actually so happy for

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you. Yes. Don't be married to Kristi Noem. You're

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asking for it. Yeah, that's hard. You're asking

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for it. That's hard. You have a good name, doggy.

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He's being great. I just... And this is one of

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those things, like... I struggle with this a

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little bit because... This is one of those things

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you can't hide in a marriage. Like, Kristi Noem

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knew what was going on, I assume. There's no

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way those big bazingas did not catch her attention

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at some point. But he, I guess, turned around.

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He's the most homophobic guy on God's green earth.

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And I'm like, what? Devo, what do you think you're

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doing? You're doing drag. That's where I start

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getting aggravated. Because how are you? shitting

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on the group that you are a part of and like

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you can whatever like that's also not me coming

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for closeted people but like a closeted homophobe

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is so irritating to me the part of me wonders

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if the whole homophobia of it all is like performative

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though because it's like do you actually think

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like you're living this life and you're compartmentalizing

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it so hard that like you don't know or do you

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think like he actually feels this way and he

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does not like lump those things in this like

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he doesn't think that what he's doing is drag

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well I wonder if he is obviously he's not proud

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of doing it so I wonder if he's built such a

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stigma around that part of himself that he hates

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himself and also hates people who can do that

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out and proudly. I imagine there is a part of

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himself that hates himself because if you're

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doing the bimbofication thing and like, cause

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the whole idea behind this is like, I'm a stupid

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woman. I'm like, I'm stupid. Like whatever. Yeah.

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Which I don't love that. No, I don't want to

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dig into it. Well, you don't even have to dig

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into it. He's a misogynist through and through.

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Even when he's in his realist state. Even when

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he's being a woman, he hates women. Yeah. I just

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feel like if you're going to be that two -faced

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about anything, I believe that you hate yourself

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to some extent. Because you can't... You need

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to hate yourself to marry Christine Elm. Let's

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start there. Yeah, but you can't, like... I don't

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know. You can't be a proud gay person and turn

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around and be a homophobe. You also can't be

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a homophobe and turn around and be... Happy as

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a queer person. Because what he's doing is queer.

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I'm like, however you want to put that. I just

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don't understand. I don't understand. But I will

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say the more homophobic someone is, the more

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I think that they're gay. So I think that comes.

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I also wonder, like, just like. I want to dig

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into the marriage a little bit because, like,

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it's like I have to assume they started a traditional

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foundation for. I know it's hilarious, isn't

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it, Auggie? Auggie's sitting over here just laughing.

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I have to assume that, like, they got married

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in a Christian church. Like, they love Jesus.

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They love God. They're doing their thing. I want

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to know what the conversation was like when Brian

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Nome said. I ordered something online from. I

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wonder how long it's been that way or if it's

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always been that way. I bet you're right. I bet

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you're right. Because she can fix them. She thought

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she could fix them. Yeah. He'll phase out of

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it. Or she's like, you know, pretty narcissistic.

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And so I think. This pussy's going to get him

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together. Yeah. Or like. I can cover up anything

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sort of thing. No one would ever find out because

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I'm Kristi Noem. I think that's legitimately

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how I picture her brain operating. It's so messy.

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That's that's the thing. It's so fucking messy

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that like I there's no angle you can come at

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it from and be like, OK, he's. They're just going

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to be OK, like. And I don't know if I care that

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they're okay. I'll be honest. I don't care. In

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South Dakota, wherever the fuck they are, I don't

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care. Truly, truly, that criminal, Kristi Noem,

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deserves this. I don't know anything about this

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man, but he stood ten toes behind Kristi Noem.

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And two tits. Except for in those chat rooms,

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girl. Oh, have you heard the audio? no where

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he's like it's like some only fans model like

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he's talking to online and like she starts recording

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it from another phone and he's like i hate her

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i hate christina i'm like will you marry me and

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i'm like and it's just like a dominatrix so like

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i assume there's a lot there that he needs to

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like go to therapy for yeah but i saw their messages

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where he was like yeah oh that bitch how can

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you Imagine your spouse being in the federal

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government and really like public facing. And

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you just log into your little laptop like. Look

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at these lovely tits. Look what I'm going to

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do today. And, like, I wonder if he has to plan

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his day around, like, what he's going to put

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him on. He's looking at Christy's schedule, like,

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okay, she'll be gone from here to here. I think

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I could do some titty time with you. Titty time!

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Titty time. Oh, Jesus. Oh, I needed that. Okay.

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Have you seen Nitos? Yeah. Yeah. And I like a

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stress toy. I don't know. I like a little squishy

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guy, but I guess they're exploding everywhere.

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They're exploding everywhere. And like, have

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you seen the people lining up outside of Target

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five below? Like, I don't know where else they

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sell them, but they're lining up and it's like

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people mowing families down to like get to Nitos.

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And it's like grown adults. And I think the thing

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that like bothers me the most is these influencers

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who are getting online and they're like playing

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with them and they're like doing a baby voice

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with it. And they're like, I got the pink one.

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And the comments are like, you're a grown adult.

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Yeah. Grow up. I don't get, and it's like, it's

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the same thing as, and I, like I say this as

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I'm drinking out of a Stanley cup, but it's like,

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it's the same thing as a Stanley cups. It's the

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same thing as. Okay. But did you like elbow someone

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in the face for your Stanley cup? No, I ordered

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it on fucking Amazon. As one does, like, there's

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just no reason. I never understood that. Even

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like Black Friday. I don't understand why you

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think this fight is going to get you that TV

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or that neato. You're just wasting time. I have

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to imagine that it's like because I don't know

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that Black Friday exists anywhere else. But like,

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I have to imagine it's a very American thing

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to like, yeah, get up at three o 'clock in the

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morning. It is an American thing, wasn't it?

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Like a. I don't know. I think it was like a great

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depression thing. They like, everyone's going

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to go shopping this day to get things back in

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the black. Okay. Well, that is the thing is like,

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that's the date. Like they call it black Friday

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because it moves like your accounting goes back

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into the black that day. But like, I didn't,

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I have no idea where it started, but I do know

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like working at Hollister, like when we used

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to do black Friday stuff, like the, the, way

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people would like fight over a t -shirt. And

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I'm like, do you actually care about the t -shirt?

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Like, do you truly to God care about it? It always

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felt like a performance to me. And that's the,

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that's how I feel about the Nito thing where

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it all feels performative. There are hundreds

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of little stress balls and, or whatever on the

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market. Why in the fuck? I don't, I don't know.

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But like, I, I was like, it's all over my TikTok

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and it's just. I can't understand it. I can't

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understand. I saw one video where it was like

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they must have had a GoPro or something. And

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it was like their video of running into Target

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and getting a neato. It's like found footage

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from the Blair Witch Project. I'm not shitting

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you. Like the way I watch this and I'm like,

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there's no fuck. You couldn't pay me money to

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like run into a target. First of all, you couldn't

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pay me money to go into a target period right

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now. You couldn't. Get me to run for a fucking

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toy where they're getting like two little boxes

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of them at a time. And you have 30 people going

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to fight over them. You're out of your fucking

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mind. Yeah, absolutely not. You know what I would

00:14:49.409 --> 00:14:51.610
do if I worked at Target? Kill myself? Well,

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yeah. But first, I would take all the Nitos with

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me into the air vents. And I would just start

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randomly dropping them on people. And that. Is

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who can be gifted with the experience of the

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Neato. Is it like, uh, I don't know. And like,

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I don't know what the, like, I don't know if

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it's a tactile thing. I don't know if people

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are that excited about it, but like, I've seen

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them for years, by the way, those little like

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nice cubes or whatever. Those are Neato's. Yes.

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Like they've been around for years. So why are

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we obsessing now? Well, it's the same thing with

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Stanley cups where they like. Stanley Cups have

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been in existence for, I think my papal said

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like 70 years or something. Like they've been

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around forever. And he said, I don't know what

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marketing genius said. This is what you need

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to do. But they're, they're living on an Island

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somewhere now. Oh yeah. That girl whose car caught

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on fire, they could not have paid her enough

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for the marketing she did for Stanley Cups. Do

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you remember that? Yeah. Well, did like Paris

00:16:00.090 --> 00:16:01.769
Hilton buy her a new car or something insane,

00:16:01.769 --> 00:16:03.750
too? Because it was a pink car, right? Yeah,

00:16:03.870 --> 00:16:07.210
I think she got a new car and she got something

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from Stanley. I don't know what, but anything

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short of a million dollars is cheap for that

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queen. Speaking of Target. And speaking of performative,

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have you seen this woman who? hang on what is

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let me go in and see what her name is um her

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name is Heidi and she's healing her inner child

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and she's going into Target dressed in a cape

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and a crown and mismatched clothes and literally

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dancing in the middle of aisles at Target putting

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her phone up like to record and go and like just

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yelling you're safe you're safe you're safe and

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do you want to know The number one indicator

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for me that someone is not safe is hearing you're

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safe, you're safe, you're safe. And I get. Oh,

00:17:06.170 --> 00:17:13.529
my goodness. The way he smiles at you is actually

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the sweetest thing ever. We love each other.

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My thing with that girl. It's like very clearly

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she's doing a form of therapy and healing for

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herself. I have met people with like agoraphobia

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before, and it is genuinely terrifying for them

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to leave their house. I don't know what has happened

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to this woman, but. I understand what she's doing,

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right? She's trying to heal. I think I have a

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problem with the yelling out loud for affirmations.

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And I have a problem. I don't have a problem

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with her necessarily. But what makes me uncomfortable

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is also that she's recording it. I don't know.

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It feels weird. I think if you do it one or two

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times, it's therapy. I think if you're doing

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it, that's all that your TikTok grid is. And

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that's. And it's video after video after video

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after video. And now it's a performance. It's

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a performance. And I'm like, I, I get better.

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By the way, so do you. Like, we both get the

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idea of, like, needing to heal something with

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our inner child. Because, like, I had a fucked

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up childhood. And, like. I didn't really. But,

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like, I get it. Like, wanting to. Well, I'm saying,

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you know, because of me. Like, yeah. And I just

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feel, like, clearly. there's something going

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on i don't know if she's shared whatever this

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trauma is with a therapist because i i cannot

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imagine a therapist worth herself i actually

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might send this to tanya butler to like see what

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her thoughts are yeah because i can understand

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to some extent when you say things out loud your

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brain starts to believe that they're true so

00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:57.859
saying out loud you're safe you're safe you're

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safe willow Over time, probably train your brain

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to believe that you're safe. Okay. However, I

00:19:04.950 --> 00:19:08.009
don't think you need to scream it. I also, I

00:19:08.009 --> 00:19:11.049
don't get the, like, the kickflips and the whole

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thing in the middle of Target. I don't know.

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I don't, like. I don't. It's like you're dressing

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up in a cape and a crown. And like she's saying

00:19:21.329 --> 00:19:23.890
this to herself. She goes, it's OK to be weird.

00:19:23.970 --> 00:19:26.529
It's like, sure. Yeah. Like, whatever. Be weird.

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I don't care. And part of me wonders if she said,

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like, I don't want to be mean about it. I really,

00:19:33.390 --> 00:19:35.849
really don't. But like part of me wonders if

00:19:35.849 --> 00:19:38.690
she's saying it for the people watching. It's

00:19:38.690 --> 00:19:41.470
it like gives them permission to like maybe like

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let themselves out of their like. out of whatever

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they're dealing with maybe i i don't i don't

00:19:47.769 --> 00:19:50.569
know i don't know i think there are good messages

00:19:50.569 --> 00:19:53.609
to be found in it but absolutely but it's like

00:19:53.609 --> 00:19:57.470
very cringe in real life it is very cringe and

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like where i do start to feel really bad for

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her are the comments yeah i i wonder if she's

00:20:03.130 --> 00:20:06.730
just like maybe she's recording because this

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is all an exercise to like exposure therapy To

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get rid of shame. Like, she's tired of feeling

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ashamed. And maybe posting it online is part

00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:22.440
of that. Because, like, eventually you have to

00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.259
let those comments go. Like, however you feel,

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you have to let it go. And so, like, eventually

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you're not ashamed. Maybe that's why Byron Nome

00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:35.160
let his tits out online, too. So he didn't feel

00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:39.400
ashamed anymore. He leaked himself, actually.

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He sent daily mail. Have I got a story for you?

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I have a little email to send. And like, I don't

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know. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know

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that I care that like, she's out there like doing

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this in the middle of a target, like whatever.

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I think the most defensive part is that she's

00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:03.920
in a target, but. if you haven't seen this woman,

00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.380
you have to watch it to know what we're talking

00:21:06.380 --> 00:21:08.220
about. Cause I'm really trying not to be mean

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to this girl, but like, it's hard not to. It

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is tough to watch and it does feel very, we are

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on stage. We are on stage. This is theater. I

00:21:22.059 --> 00:21:23.940
don't know what's going on. But like, and like,

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I think it's because I'm hearing her perform

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it out in her mind. It's like, what? why i feel

00:21:29.579 --> 00:21:32.279
that way too i think the other thing for me is

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can you imagine walking through like for me it

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would be a mire or whatever can you imagine walking

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through and just like seeing someone in an aisle

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be like well i guess i'm gonna go get chips later

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i was it's literally like a 15 second video Oh

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my God, I'll have to find it for you. But there's

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this guy who like drops and starts doing pushups

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in the supermarket. I've seen it. I know exactly

00:21:57.619 --> 00:21:59.039
what you're talking about. I've seen it. And

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that girl just backs right up and she looks so

00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:04.940
pissed. I loved that. That's so real. It's going

00:22:04.940 --> 00:22:07.779
back to the era of the TikTok dances in like

00:22:07.779 --> 00:22:13.079
2019, 2020. And people are just like, I guess

00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.920
I'm in the background of this video now. Yeah.

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And listen, listen. I really do have respect

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for people who are confident enough to set up

00:22:23.180 --> 00:22:25.279
a tripod and start filming in public because

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I could literally never do that. I'd rather gouge

00:22:27.940 --> 00:22:32.859
my eyeballs out. But you have to respect other

00:22:32.859 --> 00:22:34.740
people's space if you want them to respect your

00:22:34.740 --> 00:22:40.349
stupid little video. Yeah. Yeah. And I think

00:22:40.349 --> 00:22:43.289
I think for us, like because it's like it's rich

00:22:43.289 --> 00:22:45.009
coming from us saying like because I mean, we're

00:22:45.009 --> 00:22:46.690
putting like all this shit out on the Internet

00:22:46.690 --> 00:22:48.529
or whatever, but like at least we're doing it.

00:22:49.089 --> 00:22:53.789
I'm not putting anyone else on the Internet without

00:22:53.789 --> 00:22:56.089
their consent, because I'll tell you what, how

00:22:56.089 --> 00:23:00.809
I look when I go to Meijer, I will be so pissed

00:23:00.809 --> 00:23:03.269
if a million people saw me looking like that.

00:23:04.069 --> 00:23:08.589
Put your phone away. Like, yeah. Do you have

00:23:08.589 --> 00:23:11.509
anything to complain about? All I do is complain.

00:23:13.289 --> 00:23:16.509
Choose from the list, I guess. I don't know.

00:23:20.549 --> 00:23:24.670
I could complain about the disorganization of

00:23:24.670 --> 00:23:27.809
Jack's soccer league. Please. I actually I think

00:23:27.809 --> 00:23:30.269
this is a thing that like moms need to hear about.

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And like, I would like to get other moms input

00:23:32.210 --> 00:23:38.840
on this. We signed up for soccer in. Literally

00:23:38.840 --> 00:23:43.059
January, I think. It was like late January, early

00:23:43.059 --> 00:23:47.519
February. A long, periodically time ago, right?

00:23:48.140 --> 00:23:51.480
And practices are meant to start this week that

00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:55.400
we're speaking. So like late -ish April, mid

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-April to be generous to them. We get an email.

00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:04.880
The Friday before, it's like, if you're receiving

00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.599
this, your team still doesn't have a coach. We're

00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.180
on a volunteer system, so if you want to do it,

00:24:10.259 --> 00:24:16.799
let me know. Excuse? Excuse me? What do you mean

00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:21.049
by that? And, like, mind you... It's like written

00:24:21.049 --> 00:24:23.769
out somewhere that it's a volunteer system. I

00:24:23.769 --> 00:24:26.549
knew that. I knew that. Right. But this soccer

00:24:26.549 --> 00:24:28.630
league is not like some random league. It's like

00:24:28.630 --> 00:24:32.970
connected to a soccer team that I won't air out,

00:24:33.089 --> 00:24:37.349
obviously. And it's connected to like the high

00:24:37.349 --> 00:24:40.829
school around here, too. So it's like, how in

00:24:40.829 --> 00:24:43.589
the world are we not finding volunteers? I don't

00:24:43.589 --> 00:24:47.509
get it. And then finally, literally just yesterday,

00:24:47.750 --> 00:24:50.829
when some people had practice, he got a coach.

00:24:53.329 --> 00:25:00.490
First of all, there's nothing that I can imagine

00:25:00.490 --> 00:25:03.890
is more annoying than like having your kid. Like

00:25:03.890 --> 00:25:06.490
I get like if your kid wants to do a sport, like

00:25:06.490 --> 00:25:08.829
it's like your kid did the sport, whatever. But

00:25:08.829 --> 00:25:12.609
like the whole. song and dance that goes into

00:25:12.609 --> 00:25:13.990
it where it's like you have to go and buy the

00:25:13.990 --> 00:25:16.349
shit you have to like and then you have to get

00:25:16.349 --> 00:25:18.329
emails like this can you like and the fact that

00:25:18.329 --> 00:25:21.150
like you got an email that said if you're reading

00:25:21.150 --> 00:25:23.650
this tells me that there are more than one team

00:25:23.650 --> 00:25:27.470
that is impacted by this 100 i missed a step

00:25:27.470 --> 00:25:29.569
in there too let me just add there was another

00:25:29.569 --> 00:25:32.789
step in that process where at some point over

00:25:32.789 --> 00:25:37.390
the weekend the director of the league sent out

00:25:37.390 --> 00:25:40.690
an email to everyone and was like if you haven't

00:25:40.690 --> 00:25:44.150
heard from your coach yet reach out to your age

00:25:44.150 --> 00:25:48.410
group director so I also had to do that before

00:25:48.410 --> 00:25:51.269
I found out that we got a coach anyway continue

00:25:51.269 --> 00:25:55.309
no like because like we know several parents

00:25:55.309 --> 00:25:58.210
that are that do like the travel sport thing

00:25:58.210 --> 00:26:00.049
I'll take that out of it because that's its own

00:26:00.049 --> 00:26:02.789
beast but like I know this is recreational soccer

00:26:02.789 --> 00:26:07.529
obviously like I know there are parents that

00:26:07.529 --> 00:26:10.450
like love that their kids are in sports and love

00:26:10.450 --> 00:26:12.430
it. And I'm just like, what about like people

00:26:12.430 --> 00:26:16.190
like you and me who are just like going through

00:26:16.190 --> 00:26:18.410
the motions of life at times. And it's like,

00:26:18.450 --> 00:26:20.970
there are parents that take this so fucking seriously.

00:26:21.170 --> 00:26:25.230
I know. Jesus Christ. You couldn't pay me enough

00:26:25.230 --> 00:26:28.890
money. I'm so sorry. It would keep us so busy

00:26:28.890 --> 00:26:31.970
if we did that. Like we would have no time for

00:26:31.970 --> 00:26:36.900
anything ever, ever, ever. There, actually, this

00:26:36.900 --> 00:26:39.480
brings up something else that I kind of want

00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:41.220
to talk about, like, if not next week, then the

00:26:41.220 --> 00:26:44.000
week after. There is this couple on the internet

00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.900
who, like, is trying to tell people how to have

00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:48.500
a, like, Christian marriage or whatever. And

00:26:48.500 --> 00:26:51.140
part of their thing is, like, you don't let the

00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:54.339
kids' sports rule your life. And, like, you,

00:26:54.460 --> 00:26:56.779
like, you can only go to church on Sundays. And,

00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.180
like, if they schedule a thing on Sundays, like,

00:26:59.220 --> 00:27:02.200
you can't do the sport. And I'm like... Okay.

00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:09.519
Okay. But there is a balance between what I'm

00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:14.119
talking about and going all in on the sport and

00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:16.400
that being your whole life. There has to be a

00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.000
happy medium somewhere where it's like, yeah,

00:27:18.019 --> 00:27:20.759
my kid just enjoys playing soccer. God. Yeah.

00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:26.740
I mean, I don't know. I think if your kid really

00:27:26.740 --> 00:27:28.960
likes something and wants to pursue it, it is

00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.380
your duty to let them do that. Absolutely. Not

00:27:31.380 --> 00:27:37.250
to restrict them from it. At the same time, you're

00:27:37.250 --> 00:27:39.670
a person, too. And so if you're like thinking

00:27:39.670 --> 00:27:41.930
of joining a travel league and you're going to

00:27:41.930 --> 00:27:44.029
have to travel three hours every weekend and

00:27:44.029 --> 00:27:46.769
that's not doable for you, then sometimes you

00:27:46.769 --> 00:27:50.069
have to say no. Like, do you remember that phase

00:27:50.069 --> 00:27:52.250
that I went through where I wanted us to be on

00:27:52.250 --> 00:27:59.920
a dodgeball league? Yeah. Travis does this to

00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:03.319
me where he's like, let's run a marathon. Let's

00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:06.759
run a 5K. Dodgeball or kickball, one of the two.

00:28:07.180 --> 00:28:09.160
I think it was kickball, actually. I think it

00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:12.319
was kickball, yeah. Let's run a kickball league.

00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.859
Never in all of my days. Wait until he finds

00:28:16.859 --> 00:28:20.700
out the Westfield Collective has beach volleyball.

00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.619
Oh, shut your whore mouth. I'm signing up right

00:28:23.619 --> 00:28:28.289
now. Oh, or the phase that I went through. Jesus,

00:28:28.509 --> 00:28:31.450
do you remember the one I said? Let's do the

00:28:31.450 --> 00:28:34.490
AIDS life cycle and bike from San Francisco to

00:28:34.490 --> 00:28:39.549
Los Angeles. Yeah, no. There was never a chance

00:28:39.549 --> 00:28:42.289
of me doing that one. That one in the 5K, I knew

00:28:42.289 --> 00:28:44.990
immediately I wasn't going to do. The kickball

00:28:44.990 --> 00:28:48.869
thing, I was like, I could show up once. But,

00:28:49.029 --> 00:28:53.779
no. Never a chance. First of all, I don't own

00:28:53.779 --> 00:28:56.519
a bike. I don't either. Which is like, obviously,

00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:01.480
go rent one to do the thing, whatever. Do you

00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:03.359
understand that not owning a bike also means

00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.259
that I can't do that? I cannot bike from San

00:29:06.259 --> 00:29:09.059
Francisco to Hawaii. I was going to buy us bikes,

00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:12.240
Emma. Why would you buy us bikes? We have to

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:16.420
get on a plane. because you they they have this

00:29:16.420 --> 00:29:19.200
is a thing Emma this is a thing that they have

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.799
you can put a bike on the cargo hold of a plane

00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:31.910
oh anyway no I think I'm happy without that That's

00:29:31.910 --> 00:29:35.670
fair, and I'm glad that phase never came to fruition.

00:29:36.049 --> 00:29:38.630
Every marathon season, though, don't you get

00:29:38.630 --> 00:29:40.789
a little inspired and want to run a marathon?

00:29:40.829 --> 00:29:43.369
I always do around Thanksgiving when they're

00:29:43.369 --> 00:29:47.349
doing the turkey dash. Mine is marathon season

00:29:47.349 --> 00:29:49.829
when I see all the TikToks of people competing

00:29:49.829 --> 00:29:54.539
in the Boston Marathon or the... new york city

00:29:54.539 --> 00:29:59.259
obviously and it's like wow i could so do that

00:29:59.259 --> 00:30:02.799
you know what i can't do that do you want to

00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.420
know something so sick about the boston marathon

00:30:04.420 --> 00:30:10.400
do you remember you can't really say that oh

00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:14.700
it's bad it's really bad uh so this was around

00:30:14.700 --> 00:30:18.140
this actually this was when when the boston marathon

00:30:18.140 --> 00:30:23.000
bombing happened and I was watching TV at my

00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.099
friend Pilar's house when, like, we were getting

00:30:26.099 --> 00:30:27.579
ready for class or something. I don't remember

00:30:27.579 --> 00:30:30.700
what it was, but I was at her house, and this

00:30:30.700 --> 00:30:33.680
man comes on the TV, and I was like, oh, my God,

00:30:33.700 --> 00:30:36.039
who is that hot man? And she goes, that's the

00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:41.200
Boston Marathon bomber. I might have to cut that.

00:30:41.460 --> 00:30:48.500
Oh, my God. Probably the chyron on the TV that

00:30:48.500 --> 00:30:50.940
said Boston Marathon bomber arrested. I don't

00:30:50.940 --> 00:31:00.259
know. I would like to complain about. No, they're

00:31:00.259 --> 00:31:03.660
all serial killers and stuff. Yeah. I mean, he's

00:31:03.660 --> 00:31:07.279
one of them. Mike Apple has a new obsession with

00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.549
Facebook Marketplace. And this is really bad

00:31:10.549 --> 00:31:15.789
because he loves more than anything to get something

00:31:15.789 --> 00:31:18.549
for $2 on Facebook Marketplace. And he'll call

00:31:18.549 --> 00:31:20.009
me. He'll be like, you have to go pick up this

00:31:20.009 --> 00:31:24.009
filing cabinet that I bought from someone in

00:31:24.009 --> 00:31:26.490
Southport. By the way, I drive a Honda Civic.

00:31:27.890 --> 00:31:30.349
Do you want to know what's not fitting? A fucking

00:31:30.349 --> 00:31:32.650
filing cabinet. Yeah, and my Honda Civic is a

00:31:32.650 --> 00:31:36.450
fucking filing cabinet. I don't like Facebook

00:31:36.450 --> 00:31:39.680
Marketplace because it makes me scared. Taylor

00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:42.359
talked about this or like she said, like, it's

00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.420
not the people that are scary. It's like the

00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:49.579
commitment to going to meet someone at the Pleasant

00:31:49.579 --> 00:31:53.380
View exit on I -74 at a gas station. So you can

00:31:53.380 --> 00:31:55.519
give them your collection of bracelets and they

00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.519
can get they can give you five dollars like that

00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:01.079
just feels terrifying to her. It's yeah. And

00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:03.680
I guess they have like safe locations and stuff,

00:32:03.779 --> 00:32:09.180
but it's literally. the police station. Can you

00:32:09.180 --> 00:32:11.839
imagine being like the Westfield police and being

00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:15.279
like, okay, in order to stop the murders that

00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.400
are happening, come to the police department.

00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:22.000
This is the Facebook marketplace. No, that's

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.400
what they literally say to do. If you're like

00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.339
me and you're paranoid about meeting a stranger

00:32:25.339 --> 00:32:29.559
for stuff, uh, to do it at the police station.

00:32:29.779 --> 00:32:32.240
And it's like, I don't really want to do all

00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:34.839
that because, okay, what we're facing right now,

00:32:35.339 --> 00:32:38.200
Augie is out of the bassinet. And so like, that's

00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.759
the first thing to go. And it would be so easy.

00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.559
I know to just list it on Facebook marketplace

00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.880
for half of what I bought it for and just let

00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.359
someone come pick it up. That would be so easy.

00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.700
You know what I can't do? Let someone come pick

00:32:52.700 --> 00:32:54.619
it up. No, absolutely. I don't want people to

00:32:54.619 --> 00:32:57.640
know where you live. I don't either. And I don't

00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.589
want them to know where any of. My loved ones

00:33:00.589 --> 00:33:03.730
live. And I also don't want to tote that thing

00:33:03.730 --> 00:33:08.150
to the Pleasant View exit or the police station.

00:33:08.230 --> 00:33:12.170
No. Hi, police. Yeah. Just waiting for the buyer

00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:15.829
of this bassinet. Nothing to see here. I don't

00:33:15.829 --> 00:33:19.490
like the police. I did sell when I was moving

00:33:19.490 --> 00:33:24.269
from Salon to the rail yard. I sold like a ton

00:33:24.269 --> 00:33:27.880
of furniture from Ikea that like I was not. that

00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:34.140
i was not going to move and the number of people

00:33:34.140 --> 00:33:36.619
that were like i got to the point with some of

00:33:36.619 --> 00:33:38.339
it where i was like if you have a trot just come

00:33:38.339 --> 00:33:40.880
get it i don't care like come take whatever you

00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.720
want out of my apartment it's fine and the way

00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:46.019
people were like can you bring it to me and i'm

00:33:46.019 --> 00:33:48.339
like and like they always have a sob story it's

00:33:48.339 --> 00:33:51.819
like my grandma has six toes and she can't drive

00:33:51.819 --> 00:33:57.970
and i don't And I'm like, no, this IKEA Calix

00:33:57.970 --> 00:34:02.589
stand is not for you then. If I could take it

00:34:02.589 --> 00:34:04.869
to you, I would have already taken it to the

00:34:04.869 --> 00:34:10.110
dump. Yes, I'm like, I drive a Honda Civic. And

00:34:10.110 --> 00:34:13.170
I do, I drive an SUV. And so it's all kind of

00:34:13.170 --> 00:34:15.230
realistic for me, but I just can't do it. And

00:34:15.230 --> 00:34:17.010
you know what? I can't do it with a baby in the

00:34:17.010 --> 00:34:20.219
car either. I'm not going to do it. No. I refuse.

00:34:20.340 --> 00:34:23.400
I agree. I told Kenny, I was like, if we sell

00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:28.260
any of this stuff, it's on you. Like, I'm not

00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:30.880
doing it. I'm not doing it. Are you ready for

00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.500
reality roundup? I am ready. Okay. What are we

00:34:34.500 --> 00:34:36.980
reviewing today? Well, so I have like a couple

00:34:36.980 --> 00:34:40.260
of quick hits before we get into the Real Housewives

00:34:40.260 --> 00:34:42.659
of Salt Lake City. But this also does involve

00:34:42.659 --> 00:34:44.019
the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. So the

00:34:44.019 --> 00:34:48.579
first one, have you seen the... Have you seen

00:34:48.579 --> 00:34:52.860
the talk around the new contracts that the Real

00:34:52.860 --> 00:34:54.880
Housewives of Salt Lake City had to sign where

00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:58.639
they cannot. If it's off camera, they're not

00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.340
allowed to talk about it. If they leak anything

00:35:01.340 --> 00:35:05.320
to bloggers, they're they're subject to. You're

00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.960
good. You're good. No. Yeah. You keep talking.

00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:14.239
I can do it. So the new contract says. Oh, yeah.

00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.380
So the new contract, it says. If they leak anything

00:35:18.380 --> 00:35:20.599
to bloggers, they're subject to penalties up

00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.000
to and including getting fired from the show,

00:35:23.219 --> 00:35:27.699
losing screen time. Like they're taking it really

00:35:27.699 --> 00:35:29.980
seriously. And it's all over the airplane thing

00:35:29.980 --> 00:35:34.139
with Meredith Marks and Whitney Rose. But I,

00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.539
I don't like that at all. I don't think I do

00:35:37.539 --> 00:35:40.099
like it because part of the drama was Salt Lake

00:35:40.099 --> 00:35:44.360
City. And like, I think this is kind of the beauty

00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.320
of Salt Lake City is like. They know they're

00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.199
housewives. They're not pretending like on Beverly

00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.780
Hills. To not be on a show. Yes. And so part

00:35:52.780 --> 00:35:58.400
of being on the show is having that guy, that

00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.019
blogger Adam in Salt Lake City, who's best friends

00:36:01.019 --> 00:36:04.380
with Whitney Rose. Part of that is the show.

00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.880
It's reality TV. And now you're saying if you

00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.340
have reality, you mustn't be on the TV. Part

00:36:12.340 --> 00:36:15.909
of me gets it because. The way Meredith Marks

00:36:15.909 --> 00:36:19.929
treated that airplane scene where I have a feeling

00:36:19.929 --> 00:36:22.409
she sent cease and desist to everyone on that

00:36:22.409 --> 00:36:24.170
cast to stop them from talking about it because

00:36:24.170 --> 00:36:26.070
it wasn't on camera. And I guess Whitney Rose

00:36:26.070 --> 00:36:28.190
like tried to record it. I don't know how true

00:36:28.190 --> 00:36:29.789
any of this is. Like this is all hearsay, but

00:36:29.789 --> 00:36:33.150
like Whitney Rose recorded it. And because it

00:36:33.150 --> 00:36:36.429
wasn't production filming it, it was like inadmissible.

00:36:36.789 --> 00:36:41.769
So like it became a whole thing. I imagine that's

00:36:41.769 --> 00:36:44.610
to avoid situations like that in the future,

00:36:44.690 --> 00:36:47.889
but, like, I like some of the off -screen drama.

00:36:48.130 --> 00:36:50.349
Like, because when you talk, like, if you can

00:36:50.349 --> 00:36:51.989
break the fourth wall and talk about it and say,

00:36:52.030 --> 00:36:54.190
like, this wasn't on camera, but, like, I think

00:36:54.190 --> 00:36:57.369
that I don't care. The whole point is we're supposed

00:36:57.369 --> 00:37:01.050
to at least suspend our disbelief to believe

00:37:01.050 --> 00:37:04.789
that... what you're saying on TV is like what's

00:37:04.789 --> 00:37:07.550
actually happening in your life right now. And

00:37:07.550 --> 00:37:10.130
so if something actually happens in your life,

00:37:10.250 --> 00:37:13.909
I would like for you to talk about it. Yeah.

00:37:14.489 --> 00:37:17.710
And that doesn't really make sense to me. Like

00:37:17.710 --> 00:37:20.010
nothing that happens off screen they can talk

00:37:20.010 --> 00:37:24.989
about. So like my grandma died. I don't know

00:37:24.989 --> 00:37:28.150
that. But like, do you remember on Atlanta? And

00:37:28.150 --> 00:37:30.309
it was Kenya Moore's like when she was building

00:37:30.309 --> 00:37:33.889
her house out in the suburbs. And like, I guess

00:37:33.889 --> 00:37:35.969
she was dating that guy that was out of his mind.

00:37:35.989 --> 00:37:38.989
And he like broke her like the garage door, the

00:37:38.989 --> 00:37:40.489
glass in her garage door. Do you remember this?

00:37:40.690 --> 00:37:43.030
No. OK, well, this happened, but it all happened

00:37:43.030 --> 00:37:48.010
off camera. She like it. So is that not like

00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:49.789
eligible to be part of the show? Like that's

00:37:49.789 --> 00:37:51.630
it's like how far are we going to take? Like

00:37:51.630 --> 00:37:54.210
it's only things we're doing on camera. Yeah,

00:37:54.289 --> 00:37:57.510
this seems very selective because I don't think

00:37:57.510 --> 00:38:00.349
police body cam footage is the producers filming

00:38:00.349 --> 00:38:06.190
that. How many times have we used texts on Potomac?

00:38:06.849 --> 00:38:10.489
I would argue if iMessage didn't exist, Potomac

00:38:10.489 --> 00:38:12.369
would have ceased to exist in season three or

00:38:12.369 --> 00:38:15.019
four. That's what I'm saying. I'm so sorry. But

00:38:15.019 --> 00:38:17.480
that's not happening on camera. Yeah. So, like,

00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:19.840
it's very nitpicky to Salt Lake City, I feel.

00:38:20.059 --> 00:38:22.739
But that and I think they are the worst about

00:38:22.739 --> 00:38:26.039
it. But, like, go back to I think it was last

00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:28.579
season in Potomac. No, it was Mia's last season

00:38:28.579 --> 00:38:31.780
in Potomac. So that would have been last season

00:38:31.780 --> 00:38:38.539
where Giselle was having the fundraiser for her

00:38:38.539 --> 00:38:41.860
dad. And then. Karen was like getting honored

00:38:41.860 --> 00:38:44.340
and like they talk about it on camera a little

00:38:44.340 --> 00:38:47.800
bit and then like they go to bed and then like

00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.300
it's all about a text that like Karen sent out

00:38:50.300 --> 00:38:52.380
saying oh like I'm having the party at this time

00:38:52.380 --> 00:38:56.320
and like so it's like that like that's that's

00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:58.820
real life. Right. Do you know? And how are we

00:38:58.820 --> 00:39:00.679
supposed to understand what's going on if we're

00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.000
not allowed to get context for Bravo? I agree.

00:39:04.750 --> 00:39:08.809
that's so weird so i i'm conflicted about that

00:39:08.809 --> 00:39:11.530
but they all have attorneys i don't know that

00:39:11.530 --> 00:39:14.210
they'll sign it but it's not even about whether

00:39:14.210 --> 00:39:16.010
they'll sign it or not it's more like why would

00:39:16.010 --> 00:39:19.030
bravo even try that like maybe i need to read

00:39:19.030 --> 00:39:21.570
more about it or something to understand because

00:39:21.570 --> 00:39:24.489
i maybe i do too i just like i was annoyed because

00:39:24.489 --> 00:39:28.190
i'm like i I want them to be as messy as they

00:39:28.190 --> 00:39:31.530
want to be. I want it to be uncensored. I want

00:39:31.530 --> 00:39:34.849
to see the real shit. Is that the point? My fear

00:39:34.849 --> 00:39:37.449
is that I don't ever want Salt Lake City to come

00:39:37.449 --> 00:39:40.869
to the place that Beverly Hills is in where it's

00:39:40.869 --> 00:39:42.670
so evident they're all producing themselves.

00:39:42.809 --> 00:39:44.769
I don't want to see that. I'm not interested

00:39:44.769 --> 00:39:46.949
in that. Might as well just be the OC, fully

00:39:46.949 --> 00:39:51.889
scripted. Yes. See of that. Have you watched

00:39:51.889 --> 00:39:54.239
the new Ladies of London at all? I watched the

00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:57.739
first episode. What did you think? I love it.

00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.340
But I love like that vibe. Like I love a very

00:40:01.340 --> 00:40:06.699
posh English situation. I loved it. I love it

00:40:06.699 --> 00:40:10.320
so much. And like I, this group of women together,

00:40:10.380 --> 00:40:12.340
cause like I was annoyed cause I really, really

00:40:12.340 --> 00:40:14.340
liked Caroline Stanbury when she was originally

00:40:14.340 --> 00:40:18.420
on it. This is a, this is a reboot that Bravo

00:40:18.420 --> 00:40:24.480
did right. So you have, These women who like

00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.440
one of them is sober from Los Angeles. The other

00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:29.159
one is pregnant, so she's not drinking. The rest

00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.340
of them love to drink and they love to get messy.

00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:37.059
And then you have there's one. She's from Sweden

00:40:37.059 --> 00:40:38.719
or Denmark. I don't remember which, but she's

00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.300
a model. And Missy is her name. And I love Missy.

00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.420
But Missy starts talking about her brother getting

00:40:46.420 --> 00:40:51.239
murdered. And Kimmy literally in one of the episodes

00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.440
goes. I don't want to hear your sob story. I

00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:57.659
was like, this is the best thing I've ever seen

00:40:57.659 --> 00:41:00.820
in my life. That is pure television right there.

00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:04.320
And like these women showed up to work and like,

00:41:04.340 --> 00:41:08.000
and this, they also brought a gay guy on who

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.579
is one of the ladies of London. And I'm like,

00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:12.599
cause they talked about this with New Jersey

00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:16.460
where Caroline's brother was gay. And they talked

00:41:16.460 --> 00:41:21.159
about making him the first male housewife. I'm

00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.099
glad John Mark or whatever his name is. I don't

00:41:24.099 --> 00:41:27.440
remember what his name is. It's a hyphenate first

00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.960
name, but I love it so much. I love him. I think

00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:33.260
he's so silly. Yeah, he's so funny. I liked him

00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:35.019
a lot. And he's one of these people that takes

00:41:35.019 --> 00:41:38.579
himself so seriously that you can tell it's not

00:41:38.579 --> 00:41:41.860
an act. I believe this is who he is. Oh, yeah.

00:41:41.940 --> 00:41:45.239
That is his lifestyle. I loved him so much. Some

00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.860
people just have so... much more energy and discipline

00:41:48.860 --> 00:41:51.380
than I do. And he's one of them where I just

00:41:51.380 --> 00:41:53.920
look at him and I'm like, I could never live

00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.519
the way you do. Like you just wake up and really

00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:59.360
do it every day. He wakes up and he's like, I'm

00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:01.860
going to go buy antiques. I'm going to go to

00:42:01.860 --> 00:42:05.980
Christie's art house. You're fine. Okay. Good.

00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:10.920
Yeah. Um, it's fine. And him too. Augie's here.

00:42:11.219 --> 00:42:16.340
Augie's here. Um, secret lives of Mormon wives.

00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:21.920
Where are you at with that? I'm at a point with

00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:26.539
it where I almost don't even want to watch it

00:42:26.539 --> 00:42:33.539
ever again. Ever again. I would let things go

00:42:33.539 --> 00:42:35.639
and let things go and let things go. And now

00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:40.900
I'm truly and positively kind of over it. I agree.

00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:47.559
It seems like what they put on TV is. real but

00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:49.980
they're talking about it in such a scripted way

00:42:49.980 --> 00:42:55.880
and there is really like dangerous shit happening

00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:00.880
behind the scenes and if this all started with

00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:06.019
taylor being arrested for domestic violence and

00:43:06.019 --> 00:43:08.340
we all believed she would do better and we were

00:43:08.340 --> 00:43:15.070
gonna watch her uh rehabilitation era And she's

00:43:15.070 --> 00:43:20.710
just doing worse shit now. So I don't know. I

00:43:20.710 --> 00:43:22.909
think part of the problem is they don't ever

00:43:22.909 --> 00:43:25.250
stop filming. I will say I think part of the

00:43:25.250 --> 00:43:28.789
problem is like it's like and it's this idea

00:43:28.789 --> 00:43:30.849
that everything is content. And I understand

00:43:30.849 --> 00:43:34.289
that they don't ever stop filming. So it's like

00:43:34.289 --> 00:43:39.730
we get everything. Yeah. And like there's some

00:43:39.730 --> 00:43:42.750
things we're like. I think the best example in

00:43:42.750 --> 00:43:46.449
my mind is like Kim Richards, when she relapsed

00:43:46.449 --> 00:43:49.210
for one of the times she relapsed and she went

00:43:49.210 --> 00:43:54.309
into Target and she put, she just took a card

00:43:54.309 --> 00:43:57.070
and she said, here we go. And just left Target.

00:43:58.469 --> 00:44:02.289
And like the producers of The Real Housewives,

00:44:02.349 --> 00:44:03.909
because this happened during filming, but The

00:44:03.909 --> 00:44:05.809
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I think said

00:44:05.809 --> 00:44:11.369
no. Even for us, that's a step too far. We don't

00:44:11.369 --> 00:44:13.010
want that on camera. They still talked about

00:44:13.010 --> 00:44:16.329
it. It was still a thing. Yeah. They didn't actually

00:44:16.329 --> 00:44:18.510
show it. Yeah, there were things where it's like,

00:44:18.690 --> 00:44:24.309
okay, we have to not let that be part of the...

00:44:24.309 --> 00:44:26.610
Yes, ruin their lives. At the end of the day,

00:44:26.730 --> 00:44:30.050
that would have ruined them. Yes. And then...

00:44:30.050 --> 00:44:35.440
It's... It's... there's, there's no time for

00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.179
it to breathe in between seasons. So like you,

00:44:38.219 --> 00:44:40.179
you never know what the timeline is. And then

00:44:40.179 --> 00:44:43.719
it's, it's just, it's too much. And then it's,

00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.320
it's the thing with Taylor, Frankie, Paul, where

00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:49.219
everyone has seen it at this point, the footage

00:44:49.219 --> 00:44:54.739
is so dark. And like, I can, I can see both sides

00:44:54.739 --> 00:44:57.159
of the argument where I'm like, you have a woman

00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:00.239
who, to be fair, that is domestic violence against

00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.639
Dakota. That's that is. you can see a woman that

00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:06.739
has been gaslit within an inch of her life though

00:45:06.739 --> 00:45:09.119
you cannot tell me otherwise i'm not gonna like

00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.980
i'm just not gonna support i don't think either

00:45:12.980 --> 00:45:15.639
of them are in the right i think they're both

00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:18.900
in the wrong yes i agree but i just cannot continue

00:45:18.900 --> 00:45:22.659
to like support this environment they're putting

00:45:22.659 --> 00:45:25.019
their kids in and that's the hardest part where

00:45:25.019 --> 00:45:27.679
it's like I'm not going to defend either of them.

00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:29.440
Like, I'm not going to take the stance that like,

00:45:29.460 --> 00:45:31.340
I've seen a lot of people on TikTok take say,

00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.900
well, Dakota waited to post that online. The

00:45:33.900 --> 00:45:36.159
footage was still there. I'm so sorry. Like the

00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:40.820
footage was there and you, you can't like whether

00:45:40.820 --> 00:45:43.000
or not he held it in his back pocket to be vindictive

00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:44.719
to Taylor. I will buy that. That's exactly what

00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.239
he was doing. I don't care. Exactly. I'm like,

00:45:47.340 --> 00:45:50.400
she threw a stool at him. A middle one? Yes,

00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.679
and it hit her son or her daughter. It was like

00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:58.380
inches from his head. Yeah, like seriously disturbing

00:45:58.380 --> 00:46:03.199
stuff to watch. And I don't really care what

00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:07.300
Dakota's reasoning is. I don't care what Taylor's

00:46:07.300 --> 00:46:10.360
reasoning is. I'm over it. I was willing to let

00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:13.300
Hulu slide with like the timeline jumps. Oh,

00:46:13.300 --> 00:46:17.260
sure. And the... I don't know. And the, like,

00:46:17.260 --> 00:46:20.360
not leaving Jen alone when she was clearly not

00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:24.820
in her right mind in postpartum rubbed me the

00:46:24.820 --> 00:46:26.539
wrong way, but I was willing to let that go.

00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.260
It's a wrap for me. It's a wrap. It's like, how

00:46:32.260 --> 00:46:34.340
far are we going to let it go? That's the hard

00:46:34.340 --> 00:46:37.360
part. And in that same vein of them, like, never

00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.619
stopping filming and the timeline being confusing,

00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.860
I think. Miss Whitney Leavitt, who I have really

00:46:43.860 --> 00:46:45.920
turned the page on. A million percent. I'm on

00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.780
her side. She needs to get out immediately if

00:46:49.780 --> 00:46:52.619
she wants to have this successful performance

00:46:52.619 --> 00:46:55.519
career, which I watched on Dancing with the Stars.

00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.099
Loved her. Loved her. And then she did Chicago.

00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.739
And she was happy. Like you could tell she was

00:47:03.739 --> 00:47:07.659
happy. Radiant. Yes. Yeah. Loved it for her.

00:47:07.739 --> 00:47:10.139
She has to stop filming with these women. And

00:47:10.139 --> 00:47:12.300
I would say the same thing about Jen. Like where

00:47:12.300 --> 00:47:14.480
if she wants to do the thing in Los Angeles,

00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.360
she like she has to get away from this because

00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:18.900
it's becoming too toxic. And it's like, I want

00:47:18.900 --> 00:47:24.159
better for Macy. I want better for Jesse. And

00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:26.719
if they don't get out now, this is all they're

00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.099
ever going to be. Yes. Like no one's going to

00:47:29.099 --> 00:47:33.360
hire Whitney. to perform as a dancer or an actress

00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:37.780
or a singer because everyone will only view her

00:47:37.780 --> 00:47:40.400
as a Mormon wife. Yeah. But it's the same thing

00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.219
with like Kyle Richards where like, you don't

00:47:42.219 --> 00:47:45.820
know her for like, and I don't, I know she was

00:47:45.820 --> 00:47:48.719
in not scream, but like one of the, the Halloween

00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:51.559
movie. And she was on little house in the Prairie,

00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.300
like when she was growing up, but like, you don't

00:47:53.300 --> 00:47:55.199
know Kyle Richards for anything other than the

00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.000
real housewives of Beverly Hills now. And that's.

00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:01.380
all she is known for but like to have this group

00:48:01.380 --> 00:48:04.820
to boost you off the ground so that you can get

00:48:04.820 --> 00:48:07.800
this career started i can't understand why it

00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.679
would be hard to like leave you know because

00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.360
it's like they gave me all the success how am

00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.320
i just gonna tell them i quit you know and like

00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:18.219
the money that's associated with mom talk there's

00:48:18.219 --> 00:48:21.579
money there and like who wants to be a struggling

00:48:21.579 --> 00:48:25.420
actor no no one yeah i get it but she has to

00:48:25.420 --> 00:48:28.119
get up she has to get up and yeah same with jen

00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:32.099
and same i would argue even jesse unless you

00:48:32.099 --> 00:48:35.860
want to be like the like how many people are

00:48:35.860 --> 00:48:38.199
coming to you just because of the show you know

00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:39.780
what i would argue that's probably half of her

00:48:39.780 --> 00:48:43.079
client base right if not more like i wonder how

00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:44.960
she feels about that because i feel like for

00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:48.489
me I would want people to come to me because

00:48:48.489 --> 00:48:50.710
I'm good at hair. And she does. She is good at

00:48:50.710 --> 00:48:53.250
hair. But it's just like, is that why people

00:48:53.250 --> 00:48:55.769
are coming? Right. I don't know. Speaking of

00:48:55.769 --> 00:48:58.250
Jessie, she's getting divorced. And she looks

00:48:58.250 --> 00:49:06.969
so happy. She does. She does. And like, I love

00:49:06.969 --> 00:49:09.809
more than anything. Like part of me is like,

00:49:09.909 --> 00:49:12.090
oh, like you need to keep part of that like separate

00:49:12.090 --> 00:49:15.019
with like the. the like nastiness of the divorce

00:49:15.019 --> 00:49:16.880
but like part of me is like what she's I think

00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:18.539
she went on call her daddy and she's like let's

00:49:18.539 --> 00:49:21.099
talk about the escorts let's talk about the orgies

00:49:21.099 --> 00:49:26.380
and I was like let's yes please I was waiting

00:49:26.380 --> 00:49:30.320
for you to say that yeah no I actually like it

00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:33.500
for her I think it's she seems like she feels

00:49:33.500 --> 00:49:36.699
free it felt like she was hiding a lot for Jordan

00:49:36.699 --> 00:49:39.639
and like I wanted to like Jordan I really I wanted

00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:41.619
to like all the husbands by the way and like

00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.079
Me too, except for that one Chase. I never wanted

00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:50.460
to like him. Oh. I mean, he's cute. I love Chase.

00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:56.239
I talked about this with the sisters on. You

00:49:56.239 --> 00:50:00.780
did? And they were so mad at me because I love

00:50:00.780 --> 00:50:03.079
Chase. I can't get enough of him. I think he's

00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:07.280
so hot. He's funny. he's funny i think his videos

00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.019
with miranda were like you could tell she begrudgingly

00:50:10.019 --> 00:50:12.940
does them i think it's all i think he's really

00:50:12.940 --> 00:50:14.860
funny and i think it would be fun to be around

00:50:14.860 --> 00:50:17.940
but i never liked him like as a partner for any

00:50:17.940 --> 00:50:21.019
of them oh i knew the instant he came on and

00:50:21.019 --> 00:50:23.119
i did not when do you remember we talked about

00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.099
this when he did they were at the halloween party

00:50:25.099 --> 00:50:27.739
and i thought he was just showing up not in a

00:50:27.739 --> 00:50:30.219
costume just being a douchebag i was i've been

00:50:30.219 --> 00:50:36.050
all in since that moment You can't tell me shit

00:50:36.050 --> 00:50:42.010
about him. I love Chase. He is very funny. I

00:50:42.010 --> 00:50:44.489
just don't want any of them to marry him or date

00:50:44.489 --> 00:50:46.949
him or have any more children. Here's the God's

00:50:46.949 --> 00:50:49.190
honest truth, though. I think Chase somewhere

00:50:49.190 --> 00:50:52.190
in his soul knows like marriage might not just

00:50:52.190 --> 00:50:54.289
might not be for him unless it's with me. And

00:50:54.289 --> 00:50:57.730
that's OK. I think I think as long as he's aware

00:50:57.730 --> 00:51:03.639
of it, then I'm happy. But yeah, I. It's all

00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:06.000
kind of falling apart. This might be the end

00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:07.820
of mom talk. This might be the end of mom talk.

00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:10.480
That's going to be the title of today's episode.

00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:14.900
I don't know. How are you feeling about it? I

00:51:14.900 --> 00:51:16.500
feel like I very much hijacked that conversation.

00:51:16.900 --> 00:51:22.769
No, you feel exactly the same way I feel. I,

00:51:22.769 --> 00:51:25.550
you know, I have a hard time getting away from

00:51:25.550 --> 00:51:28.309
like what I think the original idea of certain

00:51:28.309 --> 00:51:29.989
like when we got away from the original, like

00:51:29.989 --> 00:51:31.809
what the heart of Real Housewives of New York

00:51:31.809 --> 00:51:35.030
was. And like when we got away from the heart

00:51:35.030 --> 00:51:38.309
of like Beverly Hills and like I haven't been

00:51:38.309 --> 00:51:40.309
able to watch it consistently for the last few

00:51:40.309 --> 00:51:42.210
years. And it's like that's why I've like held

00:51:42.210 --> 00:51:44.050
on so like deeply to Atlanta because I'm like,

00:51:44.090 --> 00:51:45.849
I swear to Christ, if Atlanta disappoints me,

00:51:45.869 --> 00:51:48.179
I don't know that I'll come back from it. Secret

00:51:48.179 --> 00:51:50.980
Lives of Mormon Wives is not what we started

00:51:50.980 --> 00:51:53.599
watching when it was Taylor Frankie Ball and

00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:57.300
the Swinger scandal. Like, it's not the same

00:51:57.300 --> 00:51:59.800
thing anymore. And it sucks because, like, these

00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.420
girls are entertaining. Like, these girls, you

00:52:02.420 --> 00:52:04.880
put them together. And, like, I believe that,

00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:09.300
like, Macy is, like, she's the heart of Salt

00:52:09.300 --> 00:52:12.679
Lake City. Like even with Jen, we're like, I

00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:14.699
had such a hard time with Jen and like I didn't

00:52:14.699 --> 00:52:16.300
like her in the beginning. And then I did and

00:52:16.300 --> 00:52:17.840
I didn't. And I like I've gone back and forth

00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.860
with her. That's part of her charm is like you

00:52:21.860 --> 00:52:24.099
go back and forth with her and Whitney, who like

00:52:24.099 --> 00:52:28.360
you hated and then you grew to love. Yeah, it's

00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.860
we're losing that. And like, I don't I don't

00:52:31.860 --> 00:52:34.579
like it anymore. It sucks. A hundred percent.

00:52:34.619 --> 00:52:37.900
I feel like they've all realized that they have

00:52:37.900 --> 00:52:41.849
to. They have to keep the good stuff like to

00:52:41.849 --> 00:52:44.889
themselves more because putting that out in the

00:52:44.889 --> 00:52:47.889
world has done nothing but bite them in the ass.

00:52:47.889 --> 00:52:50.510
And so we're only getting the drama and it's

00:52:50.510 --> 00:52:54.849
only gotten darker and worse since the show started.

00:52:55.170 --> 00:52:57.610
So. And like, I didn't know that it could get

00:52:57.610 --> 00:53:00.090
much darker than Taylor getting arrested. That's

00:53:00.090 --> 00:53:02.800
the thing. And like. Oh, they've found. such

00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:07.679
creative ways. Yeah. It sucks. I didn't like

00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:12.239
the Demi mean girl villain arc either. I forgot

00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.940
Demi existed. I'm so sorry. I hate her. I hate

00:53:15.940 --> 00:53:20.059
her. But I loved her so much. I was like, I think

00:53:20.059 --> 00:53:22.000
she's beautiful. I'm obsessed with her the first

00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.760
season. And then that villain arc, it was just

00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:28.800
so strange and mean girl catty. It reminded me

00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.909
of like... high school, but, like, there wasn't

00:53:31.909 --> 00:53:35.090
enough tea surrounding it for it to really be

00:53:35.090 --> 00:53:38.510
intriguing. But you can tell she's that girl

00:53:38.510 --> 00:53:41.230
in high school that, like... Was a mean girl.

00:53:41.309 --> 00:53:44.409
She was awful. Like, I'm shocked that we haven't

00:53:44.409 --> 00:53:47.829
gotten more about that. Like, I would have thought,

00:53:47.889 --> 00:53:49.730
like, these girls would have had people coming

00:53:49.730 --> 00:53:52.670
out saying, like, let me tell you about them

00:53:52.670 --> 00:53:54.329
in high school, because, like... How many people

00:53:54.329 --> 00:53:57.550
do you think have cease and desist with a little

00:53:57.550 --> 00:54:05.130
check on the side? That being said. Just wondering.

00:54:07.349 --> 00:54:13.989
So for our reality roundup, like episode today,

00:54:14.110 --> 00:54:17.010
we're doing season one, episode 11 of The Real

00:54:17.010 --> 00:54:19.309
Housewives of Salt Lake City. All bets are off.

00:54:20.570 --> 00:54:23.289
We're almost at the end of season one. But we're

00:54:23.289 --> 00:54:28.590
back at the beginning of rounding it up. We haven't

00:54:28.590 --> 00:54:30.110
done a season one episode in forever because

00:54:30.110 --> 00:54:32.030
there have been so many. I know. Also, can we

00:54:32.030 --> 00:54:34.050
just talk about really quick before we do this?

00:54:34.769 --> 00:54:36.929
The husband's watching Housewives. I want to

00:54:36.929 --> 00:54:38.590
talk about them for a second, like without them

00:54:38.590 --> 00:54:40.130
being on the show. I'm so obsessed with them.

00:54:40.170 --> 00:54:44.190
I love doing episodes with them. Like, I think

00:54:44.190 --> 00:54:46.429
they are so fun. They are so silly. And like,

00:54:46.469 --> 00:54:55.769
I think that. I love Scott and Jeff. I think

00:54:55.769 --> 00:54:59.099
they are just. God, the salt of the earth. They're

00:54:59.099 --> 00:55:01.099
the best. I cannot get enough of them. They really

00:55:01.099 --> 00:55:05.320
are. I think we align well, too. But they've

00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.260
talked about this where, like, you and I are

00:55:07.260 --> 00:55:10.199
pretty opinionated people, and so are they. And

00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:15.820
it's fun that we have very different opinions

00:55:15.820 --> 00:55:17.920
about very different things. And, like, the things

00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:21.179
that, like, we can come to the middle on, like,

00:55:21.179 --> 00:55:24.940
whatever. But, like, I can't get enough of them.

00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:28.940
I love them so. Much. Right. If you don't, if

00:55:28.940 --> 00:55:31.199
you don't watch Husbands Watching Housewives.

00:55:31.260 --> 00:55:33.599
I can't even say words. If you don't listen to

00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:36.159
Husbands Watching Housewives already, you should.

00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:40.780
Yes. They're so funny and great and cool. Together.

00:55:41.059 --> 00:55:47.019
Can't we? We're doing it. So season one, episode

00:55:47.019 --> 00:55:51.280
11, all bets are off. Yay. Yeah. We haven't done

00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:53.860
a season one episode in a while, but we're almost

00:55:53.860 --> 00:55:57.679
at the end of season one. Yes. Okay, so we got

00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:01.139
opening shots. Yeah. Robert Sr. calls his wife

00:56:01.139 --> 00:56:04.300
Miss Mary, and I don't like that. It's a very

00:56:04.300 --> 00:56:06.480
Southern thing. It's a very Southern thing, and

00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:08.820
it's a very Christian thing. Like, to call someone

00:56:08.820 --> 00:56:11.820
Miss their first name, that's a very church thing.

00:56:12.099 --> 00:56:15.880
Yeah. Which is fine. Every man I ever ran into

00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:18.719
in the South called every woman he'd ever met

00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:25.960
Miss whatever. I do it for my kids. when it's

00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:29.820
like an adult that we're not like friends with.

00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:33.559
But if your spouse called you Miss Emma. Yeah,

00:56:33.579 --> 00:56:35.639
that's weird. That's an instant boner killer.

00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:40.739
But it's like, it's weird for a normal relationship,

00:56:40.980 --> 00:56:44.139
but since they're more of a business transaction,

00:56:44.579 --> 00:56:48.699
I guess. Whatever. Brooks and Meredith are grocery

00:56:48.699 --> 00:56:51.079
shopping. I was obsessed with this grocery store

00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:56.050
they were in. Yeah. It looked so... Like, have

00:56:56.050 --> 00:56:58.010
you been to Goose the Market downtown? Yeah.

00:56:58.190 --> 00:57:00.070
It's like that. It did kind of look like that.

00:57:00.090 --> 00:57:03.190
Very chic. Which reminds me, every time, since

00:57:03.190 --> 00:57:06.769
you told me that Mary Crosby has a house in Carmel,

00:57:06.929 --> 00:57:10.489
every time I'm in Whole Foods, I'm like, where

00:57:10.489 --> 00:57:14.789
are you? Convinced I'm going to see her. Run

00:57:14.789 --> 00:57:18.050
into Mary Crosby. And have nothing to say. Oh,

00:57:18.070 --> 00:57:19.590
I'll have nothing but good things to say to her.

00:57:20.510 --> 00:57:25.730
There we go. Beautiful. Okay, moving on. We'll

00:57:25.730 --> 00:57:27.670
make this one quick, Augie, I promise. This one's

00:57:27.670 --> 00:57:32.909
not a super long one. I... And then Jen and Cherie

00:57:32.909 --> 00:57:36.250
were planning the double date with Heather and

00:57:36.250 --> 00:57:39.210
Big Daddy, the guy that they set Heather up with.

00:57:39.409 --> 00:57:44.010
Yeah. God, I... What a dream. I think that's

00:57:44.010 --> 00:57:47.329
such a cute way to set someone up a double date.

00:57:47.389 --> 00:57:51.650
Like, that's so sweet. It is, and like... We'll

00:57:51.650 --> 00:57:57.210
get to it, but like. Obviously, this instance

00:57:57.210 --> 00:58:00.510
isn't the greatest. Isn't perfect, right? But

00:58:00.510 --> 00:58:02.769
like the idea of being like. I love the idea.

00:58:02.909 --> 00:58:05.530
I want to set up these two. Let me just take

00:58:05.530 --> 00:58:07.889
them out with my husband. And so then it will

00:58:07.889 --> 00:58:10.210
never be awkward because each of them will have

00:58:10.210 --> 00:58:13.489
friends that they're with. Yeah. We go over to

00:58:13.489 --> 00:58:15.090
Whitney's house. Whitney's brother and sister

00:58:15.090 --> 00:58:17.889
come over to have dinner with Diane Warren, Whitney's

00:58:17.889 --> 00:58:23.949
dad. Ever since Carrie from Sexy Unique Podcast

00:58:23.949 --> 00:58:26.090
said that, like, I cannot get enough. I was like,

00:58:26.150 --> 00:58:31.809
that's all I can see. Whitney explains that her

00:58:31.809 --> 00:58:34.030
dad or that she was really the only one that

00:58:34.030 --> 00:58:35.989
was all in on helping her dad. And her brother

00:58:35.989 --> 00:58:38.429
wasn't sure if he wanted to be involved. And

00:58:38.429 --> 00:58:43.670
the sister just said no altogether. And, you

00:58:43.670 --> 00:58:49.909
know, I wish that. The way they presented it,

00:58:49.989 --> 00:58:54.789
I wish was not so harsh to the sister, it felt

00:58:54.789 --> 00:58:56.909
like. I think her reaction's completely valid.

00:58:57.210 --> 00:58:59.510
I think it's totally valid to not want to help

00:58:59.510 --> 00:59:01.449
with that. That's not something you sign up for

00:59:01.449 --> 00:59:03.289
with a parent. But here's the thing. It's not,

00:59:03.510 --> 00:59:05.449
I don't think it's that she didn't want to help.

00:59:05.550 --> 00:59:08.610
It's that I think you, like, I think she was

00:59:08.610 --> 00:59:11.550
probably being very self -aware in saying, I'm

00:59:11.550 --> 00:59:13.780
not emotionally equipped to deal with this. And

00:59:13.780 --> 00:59:17.119
I respect that. I've lived it. I know how hard

00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.119
this is. And I part of me wishes that I could

00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:24.159
have been more like her and like just kind of

00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:25.760
said, no, I'm going to keep you at arm's length

00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:30.400
for a while because I can't do that. But I'm

00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:34.420
also at the same time, very impressed with Whitney's

00:59:34.420 --> 00:59:37.929
willingness to never give up. Oh, my gosh. Obviously,

00:59:37.929 --> 00:59:40.389
that was no hate towards Whitney. I don't think

00:59:40.389 --> 00:59:44.130
she meant it that way. And she is God's strongest

00:59:44.130 --> 00:59:46.829
soldier. Hundred percent. For trying to help

00:59:46.829 --> 00:59:50.329
her dad through that. Because as a child, you

00:59:50.329 --> 00:59:52.510
don't ask to be born. I don't believe that you

00:59:52.510 --> 00:59:57.849
necessarily owe your parents that. Especially.

01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:03.800
but i i also like i imagine that whitney would

01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:06.179
be this person for like if she had a friend that

01:00:06.179 --> 01:00:08.360
was dealing with addiction i imagine she would

01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:10.219
go to the ends of the earth for them too like

01:00:10.219 --> 01:00:15.199
she's a nurturer yes for sure um but then uh

01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:20.039
the so the dad comes over they're all sitting

01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.019
together at dinner and like the conversation

01:00:22.019 --> 01:00:24.639
gets super uncomfortable because whitney's brother

01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:28.869
calls out that the dad Does like this cycle where

01:00:28.869 --> 01:00:30.590
he's like, oh, I want to be in your lives and

01:00:30.590 --> 01:00:32.469
then just doesn't follow through. And like it

01:00:32.469 --> 01:00:34.550
sucks because like when you get to the reunion,

01:00:34.650 --> 01:00:38.630
you see how all of this ends. But yeah, like

01:00:38.630 --> 01:00:42.610
I, I hate knowing how it ends because I know

01:00:42.610 --> 01:00:46.090
that like I know that feeling of hope where it's

01:00:46.090 --> 01:00:49.869
like I'm getting my dad back. And I cannot imagine

01:00:49.869 --> 01:00:54.590
putting this on national television and being

01:00:54.590 --> 01:00:57.639
like, OK, like dad's dad's here. Like, we'll

01:00:57.639 --> 01:00:59.420
figure it out. We'll figure out the rest. And

01:00:59.420 --> 01:01:02.019
then I don't know. But like at the same time,

01:01:02.099 --> 01:01:04.360
I feel like he did kind of want to make things

01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:06.119
right. But like part of me is like, well, this

01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:08.260
this is what addicts do is they tell you what

01:01:08.260 --> 01:01:11.119
you want to hear. I think it's also important

01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:17.579
as an adult to. be honest about that kind of

01:01:17.579 --> 01:01:21.159
thing like even when you do all of the right

01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:24.239
things and more than that you go above and beyond

01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:26.659
for things sometimes it just doesn't work out

01:01:26.659 --> 01:01:28.760
and there are things that are beyond your control

01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:32.079
and that's okay she should still be proud of

01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:35.699
herself for everything that she put in yeah like

01:01:35.699 --> 01:01:40.519
I agree I'm beyond proud of Whitney Rose um so

01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:42.940
we go over to Heather and she shows up to the

01:01:42.940 --> 01:01:47.380
double date with Jenna Sharif and Even knowing

01:01:47.380 --> 01:01:50.199
everything we know now, I would love to go on

01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:52.219
a double date with Jen and Sharif. I think that

01:01:52.219 --> 01:01:56.059
would be the most fun that anyone has ever had.

01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:03.840
100%. I feel like just having a dinner with Coach

01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:05.820
Shaw would heal something in me, just to get

01:02:05.820 --> 01:02:08.519
a pep talk or something from him. Yeah, I think

01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:13.679
having a double date with... Jen and Sharif would

01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:16.840
be more fun than going out with just Jen. I feel

01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:22.579
like he brings such a calm, grounded, like almost

01:02:22.579 --> 01:02:26.079
like a maternal energy out of her. And he seems

01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:29.280
so safe to be around. Oh my God. He's just one

01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:31.460
of those people. I feel like I would be so comfortable.

01:02:31.860 --> 01:02:34.840
And I would tell him everything and everything.

01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:37.199
He should have been like a therapist. Cause I

01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:41.469
would just. let him fix me like i would be so

01:02:41.469 --> 01:02:44.389
honest with him yeah um heather's kind of cute

01:02:44.389 --> 01:02:48.050
and nervous and then big daddy shows up like

01:02:48.050 --> 01:02:54.389
i loved seeing before we get to him i loved seeing

01:02:54.389 --> 01:02:58.829
heather like ready for a date and excited yes

01:02:58.829 --> 01:03:01.889
and like the butterflies and the whole thing

01:03:01.889 --> 01:03:04.250
how good for her versus the feeling she must

01:03:04.250 --> 01:03:06.210
have felt with like this husband who hated her

01:03:06.210 --> 01:03:11.690
yes Oh, good for her. The man's trash. But here's

01:03:11.690 --> 01:03:13.869
the thing. He's not ugly. He's not ugly by any

01:03:13.869 --> 01:03:16.570
stretch of the imagination. Heather is miles

01:03:16.570 --> 01:03:20.289
out of his league, though. No. He's not ugly,

01:03:20.429 --> 01:03:24.170
and he's not trash. He actually seems like a

01:03:24.170 --> 01:03:26.230
nice guy. He seems like a wholesome guy that

01:03:26.230 --> 01:03:28.650
doesn't drink, and he'd be really good. For someone

01:03:28.650 --> 01:03:31.269
like my Aunt Tina, he would be perfect. They're

01:03:31.269 --> 01:03:35.519
not a good match. No. liked her more with that

01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:39.619
little man she met at Jen's party yes oh but

01:03:39.619 --> 01:03:42.000
she was like come get this pussy like oh fuck

01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.579
yeah I like that energy for her so much more

01:03:44.579 --> 01:03:48.380
I do too like we're like cause it's she's not

01:03:48.380 --> 01:03:51.260
like Putting herself in a box. She's like, no,

01:03:51.340 --> 01:03:54.340
I am who I am. And like, I, and she's, I don't

01:03:54.340 --> 01:03:57.139
want her to be anything else. I love a woman

01:03:57.139 --> 01:04:00.900
who's like big, loud, free, not big in size.

01:04:02.659 --> 01:04:06.719
She's taking up her space. Like she's being out

01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:09.780
there and whatever. And yeah, I just like that

01:04:09.780 --> 01:04:13.900
for, for her more, but what a cute little date.

01:04:13.980 --> 01:04:16.980
Like not every day needs to be like your soulmate.

01:04:17.059 --> 01:04:19.429
And like, I also love, that she kept calling

01:04:19.429 --> 01:04:24.190
him the big easy like and then like you can tell

01:04:24.190 --> 01:04:25.849
like they get to the end of the day like whatever

01:04:25.849 --> 01:04:32.670
and big daddy asks about dessert and heather

01:04:32.670 --> 01:04:35.110
goes sharif can get you a slurpee on the way

01:04:35.110 --> 01:04:38.489
home and she was so fucking done and like even

01:04:38.489 --> 01:04:41.050
that i like i like where she's like i know my

01:04:41.050 --> 01:04:43.730
worth we're cool like we don't need to do that

01:04:43.730 --> 01:04:47.900
i think um We go back to Whitney's house and

01:04:47.900 --> 01:04:50.400
Whitney's daughter, Bobby, is rolling around

01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:52.360
on one of those stupid fucking hoverboard things

01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:56.059
in the house. And I. Those make me so nervous.

01:04:56.260 --> 01:04:59.539
They make me mad because Aria has one of those

01:04:59.539 --> 01:05:02.519
things. And like, and I'm just, I fucking hate

01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:04.420
them. I'm like, God, you're. Do you remember

01:05:04.420 --> 01:05:08.079
when Cherise and Potomac was riding around on

01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:09.480
one of those and she was building her champagne

01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:16.380
room? Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what? She kind

01:05:16.380 --> 01:05:19.940
of pulled it off. I liked it for Sharice. It

01:05:19.940 --> 01:05:22.420
was like a very chic mode of transportation for

01:05:22.420 --> 01:05:25.400
her. Sharice could also do no wrong in my eyes.

01:05:25.780 --> 01:05:28.239
There's nothing I would have dogged her for on

01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:33.079
this show. But like the hoverboards make me so

01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:35.239
nervous because it's always kids and they're

01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:36.880
always like you're going to break your fucking

01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:38.860
nose. They're always a little bit distracted.

01:05:38.900 --> 01:05:41.119
And I'm like, you're going to run that thing.

01:05:41.940 --> 01:05:43.719
Right down the stairs. You're going to run that

01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:46.639
thing directly into a corner. Yes. You are never

01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:50.380
going to be the same. Use your walking feet.

01:05:50.659 --> 01:05:55.219
Yes. Oh, God. I don't know why those things make

01:05:55.219 --> 01:05:57.320
me so irrationally mad, though. It's weird. I

01:05:57.320 --> 01:05:59.360
know that kids think they're fun and cool, but

01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:02.760
they won't be doing that in my house. Whitney

01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:04.599
just said she wants to plan a girl's trip to

01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:08.400
Vegas, so she invites everyone. God, I forgot

01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:10.579
about this. Mary's the only one that says she

01:06:10.579 --> 01:06:12.380
isn't going to go because Jen's going to be there.

01:06:12.539 --> 01:06:14.500
And she says she would literally be on a plane

01:06:14.500 --> 01:06:18.420
full of vice than Vegas with Jennifer. That is

01:06:18.420 --> 01:06:22.539
so preacher of her, by the way. She gets very

01:06:22.539 --> 01:06:26.199
biblical. She dies like it's like it's like I

01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:28.719
would rather have like a swarm of locusts come

01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:32.960
down. She gets very biblical with the reeds and.

01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:38.099
I appreciate that about her. So Lisa calls Meredith

01:06:38.099 --> 01:06:42.519
to talk shit about Whitney. I want to come back

01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:46.119
to Coach Shaw's party for a second. Do you think

01:06:46.119 --> 01:06:49.440
Lisa is actually this mad about Whitney telling

01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:54.750
Jen that... Mary said that Lisa and Meredith

01:06:54.750 --> 01:06:57.989
were afraid of Jen. Like, do you think Lisa's

01:06:57.989 --> 01:07:02.190
actually this mad about it? No. This all feels

01:07:02.190 --> 01:07:06.989
to me like she hated Whitney Rose. She gave her

01:07:06.989 --> 01:07:09.530
a reason. Yeah, Whitney gave her a reason. Yes.

01:07:09.530 --> 01:07:13.650
And she acted on it. And to be fair, Lisa can

01:07:13.650 --> 01:07:17.230
kind of do that, as we've seen in the future.

01:07:17.329 --> 01:07:23.800
Yes. But what I, Meredith also is no stranger

01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:25.920
to talking shit about people, but like what I

01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:28.880
will give Meredith is like her beef with Whitney.

01:07:29.579 --> 01:07:32.380
does seem a little more grounded in reality because

01:07:32.380 --> 01:07:34.460
she's, Whitney was talking about the problems

01:07:34.460 --> 01:07:36.260
that Meredith and Seth were having in the relationship.

01:07:36.460 --> 01:07:39.079
Exactly, yeah. I'll give Meredith that, but like,

01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:42.079
but she's. Lisa, come on. Lisa, come on. You

01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:45.659
know who she reminds me of is, a little bit,

01:07:45.699 --> 01:07:48.219
is Giselle. Because when Giselle. Who just can't

01:07:48.219 --> 01:07:50.460
let something go. Right. When Giselle decides

01:07:50.460 --> 01:07:53.059
she doesn't like someone, they could say the

01:07:53.059 --> 01:07:55.880
sky is blue and she'll start freaking the fuck

01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:58.829
out. So it's like. That's what is kind of giving.

01:07:59.030 --> 01:08:01.750
Karen a little bit too. Where it's like you said

01:08:01.750 --> 01:08:03.570
something bad about my marriage. I will kill

01:08:03.570 --> 01:08:05.610
you for the next three seasons. Right. Like we're

01:08:05.610 --> 01:08:08.389
going to spin every possible narrative we can

01:08:08.389 --> 01:08:11.469
until I don't see you anymore. That's why we

01:08:11.469 --> 01:08:15.150
went to Sing Sing. She really did go to Sing

01:08:15.150 --> 01:08:22.170
Sing. That hot box. I heard that. Oh my God.

01:08:23.820 --> 01:08:26.739
So we get the free shots of everyone packing

01:08:26.739 --> 01:08:36.060
for the trip. Heather's Vegas pants. It's like

01:08:36.060 --> 01:08:39.039
a tropical print that I'm trying to figure out.

01:08:39.060 --> 01:08:41.399
She's like, I'm going to find you a new dad.

01:08:41.539 --> 01:08:43.920
He's a top -notch gambler. I'm like, what are

01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:46.760
we doing, Heather? What are we doing? Yeah, I

01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:51.060
was confused by that as well. Yeah. I don't think

01:08:51.060 --> 01:08:53.000
she had any time to find a man once they do get

01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:58.640
to Vegas. No. Spoiler alert. We, it went as fast

01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:03.500
as the, as Lisa Barlow on that track. So Whitney

01:09:03.500 --> 01:09:05.520
says she never heard back from Lisa. So she assumed

01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:07.979
she's not going. And this is annoying to me because

01:09:07.979 --> 01:09:09.720
I'm like, you know, Lisa's going to be there.

01:09:09.779 --> 01:09:13.939
And you know that like, come on, whatever. Brooks

01:09:13.939 --> 01:09:18.960
is having Meredith pack. And I love. Brooks and

01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:22.159
Meredith's relationship. I like, it's, it's kind

01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:26.899
of, it like feels like they're constantly a little

01:09:26.899 --> 01:09:28.699
bit annoyed with each other, but like, there's

01:09:28.699 --> 01:09:31.840
such a deep love there. I love it so much. Yeah.

01:09:31.979 --> 01:09:36.619
Very close mother and son. I feel. Um, And then

01:09:36.619 --> 01:09:38.920
Meredith mentions that you're constantly on your

01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:42.520
feet in Vegas. And I immediately had PTSD flashbacks

01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:44.500
of that fuck ass bachelorette trip from hell

01:09:44.500 --> 01:09:48.060
that I went to in Vegas. Yeah. And then all Brooks

01:09:48.060 --> 01:09:52.119
knows about Vegas is that it's the prostitution

01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:54.100
capital of the world. And I said, good for you,

01:09:54.140 --> 01:10:00.180
Brooks. Oh, good. Yeah. Everyone starts to show

01:10:00.180 --> 01:10:02.579
up at the airport. Whitney has extensions in.

01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:04.439
Like, this is the first time we've seen Whitney

01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:08.439
in longer. Do you not like it? I like her short.

01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:12.560
Oh, I love the long hair on Whitney. I do love

01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:15.000
the long hair. It looks great. It's not like

01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:19.539
it's poorly done. I think a rule I stand by is

01:10:19.539 --> 01:10:24.340
if a girl looks good with short hair, she needs

01:10:24.340 --> 01:10:26.539
to always have short hair. Okay, that's fair.

01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:31.960
Like you exist in my mind with a bob. So now

01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:35.560
I look at you and it looks like wig. Fair. Okay,

01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:38.500
that's fair. I think Whitney could look good

01:10:38.500 --> 01:10:41.119
in, like, a wet paper bag, though. She could

01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:44.300
never look bad, ever. And, like, it's long hair.

01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:46.060
It's never going to, like, ruin the look. But,

01:10:46.100 --> 01:10:49.689
yeah, I just love short hair for her. I... But

01:10:49.689 --> 01:10:51.289
like when she was wearing the long because it

01:10:51.289 --> 01:10:52.569
was the first time we've seen her long hair and

01:10:52.569 --> 01:10:56.069
I was like, oh, this is kind. I love it. Yeah.

01:10:56.569 --> 01:10:59.569
She's so hot. They get on their Delta flight

01:10:59.569 --> 01:11:03.109
and I have the same air. I have the same duffel

01:11:03.109 --> 01:11:06.689
bag as Meredith, which is very kind. They get

01:11:06.689 --> 01:11:10.329
to Harry Reid Airport. The performative nature

01:11:10.329 --> 01:11:13.630
of Jen needing a separate limo for the luggage.

01:11:13.689 --> 01:11:17.100
I was like. God, how did we not see the indictment

01:11:17.100 --> 01:11:20.539
coming from a mile away? She has to be a nightmare

01:11:20.539 --> 01:11:24.899
to travel with. Yes. I can't imagine. It took

01:11:24.899 --> 01:11:28.300
me, again, this took me back immediately to that

01:11:28.300 --> 01:11:31.699
fuck -ass trip where three separate people had

01:11:31.699 --> 01:11:34.680
to check bags for two of the girls on the trip.

01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:39.199
And I was like, we're going to Vegas. I put the

01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:40.680
same thing in my notes. It's a two or three day

01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:44.890
trip to Vegas. So, like, a long weekend at the

01:11:44.890 --> 01:11:47.430
most, and you packed what looked like six full

01:11:47.430 --> 01:11:50.630
-foot, like, suitcases. Who is that for? Because

01:11:50.630 --> 01:11:53.390
you're performing. Yes. There's no one on this

01:11:53.390 --> 01:11:55.909
earth. The Queen of England does not need that

01:11:55.909 --> 01:11:59.250
many bags for three days in Vegas. No. Like,

01:11:59.350 --> 01:12:02.989
what are we doing? I don't know. And I can be

01:12:02.989 --> 01:12:05.930
a bit of a diva when traveling. I love to overpack.

01:12:08.489 --> 01:12:11.470
I'm very quick to check a bag. I'm very quick

01:12:11.470 --> 01:12:14.850
to pay that overweight fee. I do not care. Yes.

01:12:14.970 --> 01:12:18.409
At all. But six bags for a three day trip to

01:12:18.409 --> 01:12:21.989
Vegas. What are you doing? Exhausting. Like,

01:12:21.989 --> 01:12:24.310
I wonder if any of them were empty. I need to

01:12:24.310 --> 01:12:27.390
see. No, I know they weren't empty. I wholeheartedly

01:12:27.390 --> 01:12:30.289
believe that Jen packed all six of those suitcases

01:12:30.289 --> 01:12:34.510
full of whatever. I'll imagine that Crystal Pussy

01:12:34.510 --> 01:12:38.039
was in one of those suitcases because. Yeah.

01:12:38.140 --> 01:12:41.180
Her whole Shaw squad shows up there at some point.

01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:45.319
Maybe that's where they were. They gave them

01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:49.119
those pills like dogs to make them sleep. And

01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:54.460
put them in the cargo. Come on, Gabapentin. So,

01:12:54.739 --> 01:13:00.609
we, where are we? Okay. So then they head to

01:13:00.609 --> 01:13:03.569
the hotel. Whitney calls Lisa and it goes straight

01:13:03.569 --> 01:13:05.550
to voicemail. Then literally four fucking seconds

01:13:05.550 --> 01:13:09.510
later, Lisa's calling Meredith. She's just having

01:13:09.510 --> 01:13:13.970
a conversation. And then we get probably one

01:13:13.970 --> 01:13:16.529
of the most iconic confessionals of season one

01:13:16.529 --> 01:13:19.090
where it cuts away to Whitney doing an impression

01:13:19.090 --> 01:13:22.090
of Lisa. And then she says, I can't look like

01:13:22.090 --> 01:13:23.989
I'm being sexy and taking a shit at the same

01:13:23.989 --> 01:13:29.609
time. Which is a read for Lisa. Sorry, Lisa.

01:13:29.710 --> 01:13:34.630
Sorry, Lisa. She's not wrong, though. So Whitney

01:13:34.630 --> 01:13:36.430
tries to talk to Lisa while Meredith has her

01:13:36.430 --> 01:13:38.630
on speakerphone, and Lisa could not be less interested

01:13:38.630 --> 01:13:41.949
in participating in that conversation. And this

01:13:41.949 --> 01:13:43.729
is where I start to feel bad for Whitney, because

01:13:43.729 --> 01:13:47.329
I'm just like, she's so mean to Whitney. Like,

01:13:47.329 --> 01:13:51.810
it's so nasty. And for what? Because she's pretty.

01:13:52.490 --> 01:13:55.010
Yeah. Because she's pretty. And young. And young

01:13:55.010 --> 01:13:57.430
and beautiful. And people like her. And then

01:13:57.430 --> 01:14:00.189
Jen says Lisa isn't okay with Whitney because

01:14:00.189 --> 01:14:02.329
of the scared of Jen allegations. And then we

01:14:02.329 --> 01:14:05.890
get a flashback to Jen and Lisa talking about

01:14:05.890 --> 01:14:09.149
it. And I'm like, I thought it was squashed.

01:14:09.270 --> 01:14:12.149
Like, they all, like, we all went to, like, we

01:14:12.149 --> 01:14:14.109
went to the bath thing. And, like, it was all

01:14:14.109 --> 01:14:16.390
okay. And I'm like. And the people who were actually

01:14:16.390 --> 01:14:18.970
fighting made up. So I think you just need to

01:14:18.970 --> 01:14:24.510
let it go. And I'm like, what? Let it go. She

01:14:24.510 --> 01:14:27.489
wanted Whitney off the show so bad, I fear. Yes.

01:14:29.630 --> 01:14:33.430
The woman showed up to the hotel and it was the

01:14:33.430 --> 01:14:35.810
Nomad, which is one of these hotel within a hotel

01:14:35.810 --> 01:14:38.010
concepts that has never fully made sense to me

01:14:38.010 --> 01:14:39.529
because it's just like the top four floors of

01:14:39.529 --> 01:14:42.029
a hotel, which is neither here nor there. But

01:14:42.029 --> 01:14:45.270
they walk into the lobby and they're greeted

01:14:45.270 --> 01:14:48.310
by Sumer brand ambassadors. And then I wrote

01:14:48.310 --> 01:14:52.310
down the full poem that this guy read. Yes. Please

01:14:52.310 --> 01:14:57.069
recite. Welcome, you ladies. It's an honor you're

01:14:57.069 --> 01:14:59.270
here. Now that you've arrived, please lend us

01:14:59.270 --> 01:15:02.170
your ear. There's no salted lake here, but no

01:15:02.170 --> 01:15:05.229
shortage of sin. Here's a rose with some bubbly.

01:15:05.270 --> 01:15:12.170
Let your Vegas trip begin. And I know, beyond

01:15:12.170 --> 01:15:14.850
the shadow of a doubt, to be fair, this is before

01:15:14.850 --> 01:15:18.390
ChatGPT. They put their whole pussy in that.

01:15:18.550 --> 01:15:20.850
This little boy said, I'm going to be on TV.

01:15:21.430 --> 01:15:25.229
Hang on. And he wrote a poem. Like, how sweet

01:15:25.229 --> 01:15:28.069
is that? And then Heather says this man spent

01:15:28.069 --> 01:15:30.390
more time on that poem than Billy did putting

01:15:30.390 --> 01:15:35.489
together his entire marriage proposal. Jesus.

01:15:36.409 --> 01:15:39.729
Was the proposal going to be on television on

01:15:39.729 --> 01:15:45.420
Bravo? Should have been. So. Whitney announces

01:15:45.420 --> 01:15:46.939
that she's taking the girls to do exotic car

01:15:46.939 --> 01:15:48.840
racing, and I actually want to do this so fucking

01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:53.460
bad. Yeah, that's so cool. And then Jen says

01:15:53.460 --> 01:15:56.020
she actually has something planned for Heather,

01:15:56.119 --> 01:16:01.600
which. OK, great, whatever, it's awkward as hell.

01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:06.720
And then where are we at here? OK, and then.

01:16:07.210 --> 01:16:09.029
I got really annoyed at this because Jen's trying

01:16:09.029 --> 01:16:11.329
to separate Heather from the group. Was that

01:16:11.329 --> 01:16:13.170
not super evident to you? Yeah, it was really

01:16:13.170 --> 01:16:16.909
obvious. It's so weird. And then Lisa shows up

01:16:16.909 --> 01:16:18.890
at the hotel, and she does not feel like she

01:16:18.890 --> 01:16:20.989
owes a single goddamn person an explanation about

01:16:20.989 --> 01:16:22.930
how she's getting to Vegas and when she's going

01:16:22.930 --> 01:16:25.890
to be there. And I have to tell you, I love her

01:16:25.890 --> 01:16:27.430
sometimes because when she said that, I was like,

01:16:27.449 --> 01:16:31.409
she's not wrong. No. I think people obsess over

01:16:31.409 --> 01:16:33.770
that for no reason. The whole point is the trip.

01:16:33.909 --> 01:16:36.569
Who cares? I'll be there when I get there. Fuck

01:16:36.569 --> 01:16:40.550
you. And then we start cutting back and forth

01:16:40.550 --> 01:16:42.789
between, between Meredith and Lisa talking and

01:16:42.789 --> 01:16:45.369
then Whitney and Heather talking. And these women

01:16:45.369 --> 01:16:47.630
love the word accountability more than anything

01:16:47.630 --> 01:16:53.380
in existence. Um, let's see. Jen gives Heather

01:16:53.380 --> 01:16:56.579
her surprise, and it's an exclusive, and I feel

01:16:56.579 --> 01:16:59.199
like we're using this word loosely, shopping

01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:02.939
experience with some personal shoppers. And the

01:17:02.939 --> 01:17:05.380
guy, personal shopper, looks like he's hiding

01:17:05.380 --> 01:17:11.460
horcruxes. Yeah, he's so weird. And I hate everything

01:17:11.460 --> 01:17:14.659
about this. Like, I don't like the idea of personal

01:17:14.659 --> 01:17:16.220
shoppers because you're stuck. Like, have you

01:17:16.220 --> 01:17:17.720
ever been with a personal shopper experience?

01:17:18.060 --> 01:17:20.890
No. When Zax was still open, I've done this before,

01:17:20.970 --> 01:17:23.850
where you're stuck in a room with a woman who

01:17:23.850 --> 01:17:26.229
has gotten a bunch of clothes for you, who works

01:17:26.229 --> 01:17:28.229
on commission, who's desperate for the money.

01:17:28.909 --> 01:17:32.609
No. And I hate it more than anything. And it's

01:17:32.609 --> 01:17:34.289
like, I don't want people watching me try clothes

01:17:34.289 --> 01:17:36.729
on. No. I don't want anything to do with it.

01:17:36.810 --> 01:17:39.510
I'm self -conscious enough as it is. Yes. Oh,

01:17:39.510 --> 01:17:42.210
my God. Do you want to know a grave error I made

01:17:42.210 --> 01:17:45.630
recently? It was like back in February. I think

01:17:45.630 --> 01:17:49.199
I was only... Two, maybe two and a half months

01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:55.399
postpartum. I went in one of those fuck ass Von

01:17:55.399 --> 01:18:02.760
Mar fitting rooms. No, no. That was a choice.

01:18:02.899 --> 01:18:06.500
They will make you feel like the biggest person

01:18:06.500 --> 01:18:10.079
who has ever walked the earth. I don't, those

01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:14.199
Von Mar fitting rooms need to be destroyed. It's

01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:16.840
the, it's the Florida ceiling mirror. It's the

01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:20.819
like. And the multiple angles, but it's like,

01:18:20.899 --> 01:18:24.020
none of them are good. Not good angles. That's

01:18:24.020 --> 01:18:26.500
the problem. And like, yeah, no, I, I'm, you

01:18:26.500 --> 01:18:28.539
couldn't pay me money to go into a fitting room

01:18:28.539 --> 01:18:32.079
at Van Mar. Like I have childhood memories because

01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:34.420
my grandma used to take me to, this is a huge

01:18:34.420 --> 01:18:36.399
tangent, but my grandma used to take me to the

01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:38.439
dinner theater every year and she would take

01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:40.920
me to Van Mar to get a fancy dress to go to the

01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:44.760
dinner theater. How cute. I had my first existential

01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:47.060
crisis in one of those fitting rooms because

01:18:47.060 --> 01:18:48.979
I saw myself too much and I was like, oh, my

01:18:48.979 --> 01:18:51.460
God. It'll make you do that every time. Have

01:18:51.460 --> 01:18:53.359
that feeling of like, oh, my God, that's me.

01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:56.359
You know what I mean? And then you start being

01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.100
like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's

01:18:59.100 --> 01:19:02.060
happening? I don't like this. Yeah. I don't like

01:19:02.060 --> 01:19:05.260
existing. That happens every time in those fitting

01:19:05.260 --> 01:19:08.680
rooms. Anyway. Okay. So Whitney Meredith and

01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:11.500
Lisa head over to the racetrack. And this would

01:19:11.500 --> 01:19:13.039
have been the most uncomfortable car ride ever

01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:14.880
because Whitney says she'd rather be at church.

01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:19.060
Lisa takes a phone call in the same way my papaw

01:19:19.060 --> 01:19:21.300
does. Like in the middle of a conversation, it's

01:19:21.300 --> 01:19:23.560
like my papaw doesn't even tell you to hang on.

01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:25.380
He just picks up the phone and like it's a trigger

01:19:25.380 --> 01:19:30.060
for me. I hate that. I hate that. And then. They

01:19:30.060 --> 01:19:32.359
get to the track. Lisa gets out and immediately

01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:35.039
announces she drives a Porsche Panamera. And

01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:38.300
I was like, Jesus Christ. Okay, Lisa. Which I'm

01:19:38.300 --> 01:19:40.180
sure she does. But I'm like, this man doesn't

01:19:40.180 --> 01:19:43.340
care. He's like in this world. He doesn't care.

01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:47.500
And then Whitney and Meredith jump right in.

01:19:47.579 --> 01:19:49.180
And they're driving like they're on a racetrack.

01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:53.659
And then Lisa's driving like my granny. And the

01:19:53.659 --> 01:19:56.920
coach goes, okay, you can press on the gas a

01:19:56.920 --> 01:19:59.060
little bit. You can do the gas. And then she's

01:19:59.060 --> 01:20:03.020
like. okay and then he like lets them lapper

01:20:03.020 --> 01:20:05.800
um and then after their experience they all get

01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:07.220
up at the cars and they talk about like the state

01:20:07.220 --> 01:20:10.520
of their situation and the conversation actually

01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:12.979
felt productive like it felt like we got somewhere

01:20:12.979 --> 01:20:15.920
and wouldn't you apologize and they all agree

01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:19.420
to move on and i think they did mean it in this

01:20:19.420 --> 01:20:24.960
moment we'll revisit it so and then we go back

01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:28.600
to oh god i had a lot of notes about this We

01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:30.659
go back to Jen and Heather trying on shoes. And

01:20:30.659 --> 01:20:33.880
I hate that Heather kisses Jen's ass so much

01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:35.699
in literally every scenario where it's like,

01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:38.159
thank you so much for putting together this experience.

01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:42.220
Like, it's like, this is for Jen. And that's

01:20:42.220 --> 01:20:44.739
why Jen is ostracizing her because she knows

01:20:44.739 --> 01:20:46.899
if Heather spends too much time with other girls,

01:20:46.899 --> 01:20:49.819
Heather's going to start hating her too. Yes.

01:20:49.819 --> 01:20:52.680
Yeah. And so Heather brings up Whitney, which

01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:54.699
gives Jen an excuse to obsess over Whitney, saying

01:20:54.699 --> 01:20:56.659
that Lisa and Meredith were afraid of her. Heather

01:20:56.659 --> 01:20:58.460
tries really hard to be in Whitney's corner,

01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:01.859
but Jen isn't willing to hear it. Jen says that

01:21:01.859 --> 01:21:03.479
you can't just bring information to the group

01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:05.539
without taking it all the way to the end. And

01:21:05.539 --> 01:21:08.779
I would just like to ask, one, Mrs. Jennifer

01:21:08.779 --> 01:21:11.880
Shaw, about the business opportunities she sold

01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:13.979
to people and if those ever went all the way

01:21:13.979 --> 01:21:19.260
to the end. Did she not take it all the way to

01:21:19.260 --> 01:21:22.600
the end by telling you that, Jen? No. How much

01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:25.060
further is she supposed to take it? I don't know.

01:21:25.159 --> 01:21:28.260
Like, I don't know. But like the conversation

01:21:28.260 --> 01:21:30.520
around this is getting so exhausting. And then

01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:33.180
like we get a confession of Heather saying that

01:21:33.180 --> 01:21:35.340
she's confused because Jen and Whitney hugged

01:21:35.340 --> 01:21:37.619
and made up in the hot tub where Jen splashed

01:21:37.619 --> 01:21:39.380
the cameras and the producers. And she thought

01:21:39.380 --> 01:21:41.539
that there was closure and she didn't understand

01:21:41.539 --> 01:21:44.340
that why they're having this conversation again.

01:21:44.380 --> 01:21:46.439
But like. We're also talking about the same woman

01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:48.220
that couldn't let go of Mary saying she smelled

01:21:48.220 --> 01:21:51.800
like hospital. So like, I don't know. I think

01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:54.500
this is still like the expected, I guess. Yeah.

01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:56.880
Jen Shah feels offended and then doesn't know

01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:59.539
how you can make it up to her is the problem.

01:21:59.659 --> 01:22:02.899
And then like Jen comes back and says that Whitney

01:22:02.899 --> 01:22:05.060
ruined Coach Shah's birthday. And I would argue

01:22:05.060 --> 01:22:09.600
she just made a comment like she made a comment.

01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:13.130
She was wasted. You were the one who broke the

01:22:13.130 --> 01:22:14.670
glass. You were the one who caused the scene.

01:22:14.750 --> 01:22:16.449
You were the one who took your husband and said,

01:22:16.489 --> 01:22:18.649
we're leaving right now. You took him out of

01:22:18.649 --> 01:22:20.909
his birthday. Whitney didn't do any of that.

01:22:21.270 --> 01:22:24.829
Right. I don't know why we're blaming Whitney

01:22:24.829 --> 01:22:26.609
for that. And then Heather gets really brave

01:22:26.609 --> 01:22:28.289
and asks Jen if she's blaming Whitney for throwing

01:22:28.289 --> 01:22:31.729
the glass. And then Jen just rolls right through

01:22:31.729 --> 01:22:34.710
that question because Jen cannot take accountability

01:22:34.710 --> 01:22:37.170
and then Jen starts saying that heather needs

01:22:37.170 --> 01:22:40.189
to be in her corner and she needs to stand up

01:22:40.189 --> 01:22:45.170
for her to whitney and like then she says something

01:22:45.170 --> 01:22:47.470
and like this is the end of the episode where

01:22:47.470 --> 01:22:50.109
she goes the only reason i haven't slapped her

01:22:50.109 --> 01:22:52.109
is because she's your friend Heather and then

01:22:52.109 --> 01:22:53.789
she starts making it about Heather putting her

01:22:53.789 --> 01:22:56.050
name and her reputation on the line for whitney

01:22:56.050 --> 01:23:01.069
and i'm like babe do we Do we not see where you're

01:23:01.069 --> 01:23:04.210
headed? Like, your name is one that I think a

01:23:04.210 --> 01:23:06.350
lot of people would struggle to put their name

01:23:06.350 --> 01:23:10.350
on, too. I don't know. I just thought the whole

01:23:10.350 --> 01:23:15.810
thing was so strange, and Jen seems panicky about

01:23:15.810 --> 01:23:19.329
it for no reason. Like, she's very... It's all

01:23:19.329 --> 01:23:23.130
weird. This... It's a very weird tone, and...

01:23:24.430 --> 01:23:26.609
I just don't like it. It's like she's always

01:23:26.609 --> 01:23:29.350
trying to spin this narrative. Anytime you catch

01:23:29.350 --> 01:23:31.489
her in any type of lie, she just doesn't say

01:23:31.489 --> 01:23:33.949
anything and just asks you another accusatory

01:23:33.949 --> 01:23:37.949
question. It's weird. It's weird. And, like,

01:23:37.989 --> 01:23:40.510
the benefit of the doubt I'm willing to give

01:23:40.510 --> 01:23:43.949
Jen in this scenario is, like, because we just

01:23:43.949 --> 01:23:47.329
watched the first episode of The Real Housewives

01:23:47.329 --> 01:23:50.659
of Rhode Island. And you can tell that they're

01:23:50.659 --> 01:23:53.659
all fighting for some alpha spot. I think this

01:23:53.659 --> 01:23:55.859
is the panic that Jen was in where she's like,

01:23:55.899 --> 01:23:58.560
I need to be the leader of the pack. Like I have

01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:01.779
something to prove. And she's not as likable

01:24:01.779 --> 01:24:04.140
as she thought she was going to be. Exactly.

01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:09.380
And she's aware of it. It's just. It's a lot.

01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:14.659
This show, I just feel I loved this season of

01:24:14.659 --> 01:24:17.699
television. Don't get me wrong. I. I think she

01:24:17.699 --> 01:24:19.800
would have done better if she would have just

01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:24.260
been loud and been herself and not worried so

01:24:24.260 --> 01:24:27.399
much about how she was being perceived. I think

01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:32.979
that. And I also think like she's too obsessive

01:24:32.979 --> 01:24:36.739
over like things that like in hindsight, I wonder

01:24:36.739 --> 01:24:39.140
if you asked her now, like, what do you think

01:24:39.140 --> 01:24:42.220
about Mary saying you smell like hospital? Do

01:24:42.220 --> 01:24:45.819
you care? Do you actually care? I don't know.

01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:49.149
I don't know. But because for me, I would have

01:24:49.149 --> 01:24:52.810
been at that dinner and been like, yeah, my aunt

01:24:52.810 --> 01:24:55.810
just got her leg amputated or whatever and watched

01:24:55.810 --> 01:24:58.189
everybody look at her with disgust. And I would

01:24:58.189 --> 01:25:01.489
have moved right on. Yeah. Because then you're

01:25:01.489 --> 01:25:04.010
number one, you're taking care of your aunt that

01:25:04.010 --> 01:25:06.489
got her leg amputated. Number two, then Mary

01:25:06.489 --> 01:25:09.149
looks like the crazy person. Yeah. And then it's

01:25:09.149 --> 01:25:12.350
done. And you have witnesses. Yes. But I don't

01:25:12.350 --> 01:25:17.539
know. That is. like this episode actually leads

01:25:17.539 --> 01:25:20.500
into some good stuff in vegas like because i

01:25:20.500 --> 01:25:22.840
watched the next one i forgot how good this like

01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:26.319
the end of the season got um they're fighting

01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:28.619
they're fighting this is a good like lead up

01:25:28.619 --> 01:25:30.560
to that well they go to that psychic's house

01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:34.359
or whatever and like they do who doesn't trust

01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:37.399
Jen game and everyone raises their eye like the

01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:40.399
and it's like because typically it's like housewives

01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:42.729
playing that game like i go back to miami all

01:25:42.729 --> 01:25:45.970
the time and i think about uh Marysol going who

01:25:45.970 --> 01:25:51.149
at the table don't you trust and like i'd like

01:25:51.149 --> 01:25:55.170
to play a game i'd like to know who here you

01:25:55.170 --> 01:26:02.289
trust the least at the table and and i'm like

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no this is a psychic doing it and she saw right

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into the future yeah it's actually kind of crazy

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looking back at it because like You can tell

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this sidekick real or not knew the gym had some

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shit going on. Oh, yeah. She's picking up on

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that energy. But from Indy to wherever you are,

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we love you. We appreciate you listening. And

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we're so happy to be like back back. I'm like,

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this is this is good stuff. Yeah. Love you. Love

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you. Talk to you next time.