Shaded Reality roundup with Ann & Marie

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Hi, I'm Travis, and this is Bestie Approved.

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Emma was supposed to be here tonight, but her

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baby is being a baby. So I miss her. I love her.

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She's the best mother, and that's okay. And I'll

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be here without her, but I've got two other people

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with me, and I'll let them introduce themselves.

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Yeah, I hope we get to meet her sometime. Yeah,

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for sure. You will, for sure. You will. Yeah,

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so I'm Marie, and we're from Shaded Reality.

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And I was so excited when Travis reached out

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and wanted to do a collab. And yeah, so we're

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going to talk all things reality TV tonight,

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I think. Yes, and I'm Anne, and I'm with Shaded

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Reality also. We are, Marie and I are sisters.

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So yeah, we're super excited. nice so um i think

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marie you told me like you've been all in on

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bravo since uh the real housewives of orange

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county started what kind of prompted the podcast

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to start for you guys we So I've talked about

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I've wanted to do a podcast because I'm a big

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podcast listener. So I kind of started in true

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crime. And then I realized I really loved listening

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to people talk about my TV shows. Like that was

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kind of like a thing that came later. And so

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I moved. I haven't been home. like in my home

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state since I was 20. So I finally moved home

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for the first time in 21 years. And Anne and

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I were, I think we had the kids on like a road

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trip somewhere. I can't remember exactly, but

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we were in the car talking. Yes. And I was like,

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I've always wanted to start a podcast. And she's

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like, oh my God, I would love to start a podcast.

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And so we just talked about it a little bit.

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And then I actually, you know, like. got the

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ball rolling I started sending her text messages

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and I'm like what do you think about this for

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a logo what do you think about this for a name

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what is this and she's like oh are we like really

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doing this I thought we were just like talking

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like about it you know I love that so yeah that's

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how we got started yep that's so cool I guess

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so tell tell like and we'll do both of this but

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like or that's for both of us but like tell the

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besties about like what your what your show is

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all about like where like what's your vibe so

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we pretty much recap um reality tv our kind of

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initial like uh theme of what we wanted to start

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with was spin -off shows so we wanted to kind

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of do those shows that are like not as paid attention

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to like they're not the main thing so we started

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with next gen nyc um and then we talked ourselves

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into um secret lives of mormon wives as being

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a spin -off from their tick -tocks um because

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you know they had a world going on and were popular

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in and of themselves and had their stories that

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they were telling before the show became a thing

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um and now we're currently doing the valley so

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yeah we don't have a particular um like network

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or anything like that um spin -off shows was

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kind of what we were thinking but we just we

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recap entire shows kind of from beginning to

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end nice so what about you what what's your theme

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or like where did you and emma get started So

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Emma and I worked together in finance, and that's

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kind of how we met. And we both left our first

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firm together because we hated that. And we were

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like, oh, maybe if we change the environment,

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we'll like that better. And come to find out,

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we just really hated working in finance. But

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we shared an office at the second firm we worked

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at. one of the other people in the office like

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because Emma and I just are like part of the

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charm of us is we just never shut up like that's

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all we do is talk all day long so like one of

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the people that are like that could like were

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within earshot of us was we're like hey you guys

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should start a podcast and I was like we should

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because we deserve attention like that's what

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we should do and like that's kind of how um we

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just started like a shared notes app with each

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other and it was just like this rambling like

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crazy insane like stream of consciousness and

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then we both left that second firm and i was

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like you know what we never got around to is

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starting that podcast and like we had time because

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i had started grad school she was uh being a

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full -time mom and she's um Granted, being a

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full -time mom is much more of a commitment than

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grad school is, but we had more time. That's

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kind of how we came to be podcast hosts. It's

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been a journey trying to figure out what our

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theme is. We're still reworking it a little bit,

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but half of the show is kind of our love letter

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to reality TV and trash and just really the...

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the women that raised us on reality tv and um

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we started recap actually our first recap uh

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was secret lives of morgan wives and then we're

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doing housewives we uh we're trying to figure

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out like what else we want to do because we've

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we've met a couple of other people who do like

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drag race and who do like uh big brother and

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like that kind of thing so we're still finding

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our footing a little bit but um but it's been

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a really cool ride and i've i've really enjoyed

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it so yeah and then i'm also i'm obsessed with

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reality tv like i cannot get enough of it when

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we get into the traders a little bit later like

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i'll tell you like emma's reaction to like how

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i reacted to watching i think it was the second

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season of traders in our office so yeah i love

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it yeah yeah i will say that i was more like

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i still love reality tv don't get me wrong but

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it was like uh i started out also like when they

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first started beverly hills and like i was so

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into it like i watched all all of them and then

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i felt like once i started having a family and

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just like my life and busy it just seems so much

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harder to have time to watch these shows you

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know like I still want to be and I'm like I think

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I've said it before I'm one I need to sit down

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and watch it like I can't just listen like Marie

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is like I feel like you like do seven other things

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and you're also listening you know what I mean

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yeah I need to watch it like I can't do one thing

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at a time that's not yeah I don't know like I

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need to so like I want to I want it all for me

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like I don't like it's like it's your time yes

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yeah I get it I'm kind of the same way when it

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comes to I'm the same way as Marie when it comes

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to like normal seasons like unless it's like

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a reunion episode or like maybe a premiere where

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like I kind of want to get back into it but like

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yeah I'll do like 90 things while I'm watching

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like it's like I'm doing homework I'm like playing

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with the dog I'll do the whole thing but like

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when it's when it's reality or I'm sorry when

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it's uh When it's reunion time, I'm a hundred

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percent on board with you. It is. I'm all in.

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Yeah. But this isn't a question we ask everyone

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on every episode of SD approved. And it's how

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we start every episode. What is the last song

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you guys listened to? So do you want me to go

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first? Yeah, go ahead. I feel like I keep talking.

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I keep answering everything. I always talk over

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and all day, every day. So I got to sit back.

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So I listened to your guys's one podcast and

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you guys were talking about, I think you did

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the same thing. You were like, what was the last

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song you listened to? And you were talking about

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like you use Apple music, right? Okay. So, and

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I just thought it was so funny because I use

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Spotify, but the only reason I use Spotify is

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because I have an 18 year old daughter who made

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me get it. I was. Yeah, like a Pandora. Like

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I listened to Pandora for years. I know. Is that

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still around? If you like it, I love it. I didn't

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know that still existed. I'm so sorry. I think

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my husband still listens to it. Or no, he listens

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to Sirius, like through the car, whatever. But

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that's what we listen to. Then my daughter was

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like, you can't listen to that. Like you need

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to use Spotify. So I'm like. okay sign me up

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so that's like all i know but i just thought

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it was so funny because you're like i feel like

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it's a young person thing well and i mean i guess

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maybe it is because my daughter got me started

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on it but she like paid for the app like she

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did the whole thing because i was like i'm not

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doing that i'm cheap well i feel like the apple

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music thing is such like an elitist piece of

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shit thing too where i'm just like i listen to

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apple music sorry yeah But so I just thought

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that was really funny and I had to let you know

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that. But so I went back on to Spotify to see

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what my last song was. So it was Teddy swims

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the door, but my daughter and I jam out like

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every morning to Benson Boone, beautiful things.

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We love Benson Boone. It's like our jam. I love

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that. That was our last song. Nice. What about

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you, Marie? So I don't listen to music at all,

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like ever. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I only listen

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to podcasts or audiobooks. Literally, I have

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an hour and 15 minute commute like each way.

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And I listen to either podcasts or audiobooks.

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My brain. Doesn't work with music. I don't know

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how to explain it. But anyway, I did have something

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I recently listened to because one of my friends

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from high school, I don't really like talk too

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much anymore, but she sent me a text. uh had

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a picture of her car radio and said every time

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i hear this i think of your dad so my sister

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and i we would jam out to this in my dad's truck

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so i'm taking us back to 1991 and it's joyride

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by rock set because i made my kids listen to

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it then after um she sent me that text message

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so i have i love that that's that's so sweet

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i love that um mine was you said joyride i immediately

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went to kesha and i was like i love that and

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i was like wait that she was not around in 1991

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but um i don't know any oh oh my gosh i don't

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i don't know where to put that and i'm not gonna

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acknowledge but i'm kidding i'm kidding um but

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my last song was heartbreakery by z machine and

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i i'd say you should listen to it but you won't

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and that's okay like i'll listen to it i listen

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to music every day i love that i'm i'm similar

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to marine like when like i i would say like 75

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of like what my audio intake is a podcast or

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like youtube playing in the background because

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like i that's just typically like how my brain

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works but like they're like there's a good chunk

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of time where it's like i have to like have set

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like some rhythm or something going so like i

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i get what you're saying though like with the

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like your brain just like likes like dialogue

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that's okay yeah yeah what's the last audiobook

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you listened to then um it was called my soul

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to take it's who's that by yeah uh i you wouldn't

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i don't know i consume so many books that like

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the authors like don't even stick it's just like

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one thing after another after another i couldn't

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i have no clue that's okay that's cool i love

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it um so i put together a list of questions just

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to like let everyone get to know each other let

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our audiences get to know each other and um the

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first one is what would your real housewives

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tagline be I spent a ridiculous amount of time

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on this and it's not even that amazing, but.

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Okay. Oh, where is it? I had to write it down.

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Do you have yours up right up, Anne? I do. So

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mine's like not great, but I just love it. I

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said family first goals always. But then Marie

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gave me two and I have to do the overbite one.

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I didn't write that one down. That one was not

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a good one. So it was a living non -toxic life,

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but I kind of switched it up a little bit. I

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live a non -toxic life, but will never turn down

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Botox. I like that one. So I'm real weird about

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like what we eat. I'm like what we put in our

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bodies, clean products in my house. but then

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people make fun of me because i put get botox

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that shit in my forehead but i'm like no red

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dye number 40 we are not allowed to have that

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in our home you know like that another one was

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i know you only asked for one but this was one

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marie came up with and i just like laugh so hard

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i don't use dawn like dawn dish so okay love

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to yawn because i yawn a lot on our podcast i

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like have to edit out her yawns i love that what

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about you marie what are yours uh mine was i

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may love the heat but trust me i thrive in the

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shade i was trying to play off of like our podcast

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that's a good one yeah and i like to be out in

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the sun like summer is my favorite season yeah

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that's a really i like that oh thanks what's

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yours um I'm not a force to be reckoned with.

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I'm a force that will wreck you. Because I would

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want to be seen as like the bully in the season,

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I guess. Yeah. That's good. Love it. Which real

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-life city do you think you would thrive in and

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who would be your best friend in that city? So

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I'm 100 % New York. I'm 100 % New York. Like

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everyone else gets too petty and like I'm very

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blunt. um just in real life and so I don't think

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other cities they would take everything I said

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too seriously and like be hurt by what I say

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whereas New York like that's like my personality

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and I think I'd be best friends with Carol Radziwill

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that would be my really okay yes nice I mean

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not since every like I think she might be on

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the Epstein list or something but yeah yeah I

00:15:04.179 --> 00:15:07.179
this was this was like This is before that. Before

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I knew all that. It was just on New York City.

00:15:10.379 --> 00:15:13.460
Yes. Yeah. What about, do you have anyone from

00:15:13.460 --> 00:15:17.460
the Newcastle that you... No, I hate the Newcastle.

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I get it. It's a weird time. Do you really? I

00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:25.720
can't. So Aaron, I might be able to get into

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it if Aaron was gone. I can't do Aaron. Okay,

00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:34.700
I'll give you that. Aaron and... I want to, like,

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sigh. I really, really, really do. But, like,

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I think the first season she was on, she leaned

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so heavily into that. Like, I'm a content creator

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thing. And I'm like, that's not real. That's

00:15:43.299 --> 00:15:47.879
not a real thing. Yeah. Yeah. She doesn't bother

00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:49.779
me as much as Erin. Like, she could just kind

00:15:49.779 --> 00:15:51.759
of be a background character to me. But Erin

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gets under my skin. Like, I just cannot with

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Erin. I can't. Yeah. She's hard. What about you,

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Anne? Where would you go and who would be your

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best friend? So I said Beverly Hills and my best

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friend would be Dorit. I love Dorit. I do too.

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And her fashion and just everything about her.

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Yeah, I love her in the car with that cigarette.

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That is really, that's my favorite iteration

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of Dorit. So if I had to pick any of them, I

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think. either salt lake city or miami um just

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like because i'm trash and i love miami and i

00:16:34.539 --> 00:16:39.259
love i like i love miami um but if it's like

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if i'm picking based on the cast itself uh salt

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lake city and i feel like i actually didn't think

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about this at all before like as i was writing

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this um i feel like i would get along like a

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dream with heather gay and like i think i would

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desperately want to be friends with lisa barlow

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but like i couldn't handle the like the blow

00:17:03.629 --> 00:17:07.549
-ups like i could handle like the like who she

00:17:07.549 --> 00:17:09.009
is because i think she's really really cool but

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like when when she gets confronted and she's

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like screaming about like you're a liar you're

00:17:12.750 --> 00:17:16.269
lying i'm like okay look but heather gay or lisa

00:17:16.269 --> 00:17:19.849
barlow yeah i used to love the heather gay that

00:17:19.849 --> 00:17:22.569
would like just sit at the table and like I felt

00:17:22.569 --> 00:17:24.410
like she was me. Like she would just like look

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at everybody. Like the audience proxy. Yeah.

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Yes. And I love that Heather gay. I don't like

00:17:30.569 --> 00:17:34.190
when she tries to create the story, like that

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starts to drive me a little bit. I'm like, no,

00:17:37.250 --> 00:17:42.269
stop it. Yeah. But I think that's kind of like,

00:17:42.369 --> 00:17:46.369
I think that's, it's hard for like first season

00:17:46.369 --> 00:17:48.470
housewives to like, as they, as they progress,

00:17:48.589 --> 00:17:50.730
it's like, there's. It's like, how do I like

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make the show more and more and more and more?

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And I think like, you know, I think she has tried

00:17:55.029 --> 00:17:58.569
to top receipts, proof timeline screenshots for

00:17:58.569 --> 00:18:02.950
what, two years now. And I think that I love

00:18:02.950 --> 00:18:04.710
her just the way she is. I don't need her to

00:18:04.710 --> 00:18:07.910
do anything more than that. You know? Yeah. That's

00:18:07.910 --> 00:18:10.769
how I feel too. I think that she, she'll get

00:18:10.769 --> 00:18:12.869
back to it. I think she just doesn't know exactly

00:18:12.869 --> 00:18:15.430
where she needs to be right now. Yeah. I think

00:18:15.430 --> 00:18:18.759
so. Well, and I think also with like the. she's

00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:20.660
gone through a physical transformation too. And

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I think like that does like something to people,

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like not, not negatively, but psychologically,

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it's like, you're trying to figure out where

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you fit. I think she's experiencing that a little

00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:30.839
bit too. Cause it's like, who am I in this new

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body? And I think that I'm excited to see who

00:18:34.420 --> 00:18:35.920
she becomes. Like, cause I mean, she's a New

00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:37.920
York times bestselling author. She's got so many

00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.140
merits to stand on. I'm, I'm, I'm excited to

00:18:40.140 --> 00:18:43.130
see like more and more of her. I love her. yeah

00:18:43.130 --> 00:18:45.990
and i think her intelligence like puts her out

00:18:45.990 --> 00:18:48.509
at this like different level than most of the

00:18:48.509 --> 00:18:51.470
women not like negative about anyone so like

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i think she feels like she needs to like control

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where everything is and like it's just part of

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her like personality and yeah she'll but she'll

00:19:00.309 --> 00:19:03.569
get there back again i i think you're right yeah

00:19:03.569 --> 00:19:08.009
um if you went to swig with one of the mormon

00:19:08.009 --> 00:19:12.269
wives what would your drink order be as i'm like

00:19:12.269 --> 00:19:17.930
here with mine i wish we had a swig we don't

00:19:17.930 --> 00:19:21.529
have you guys don't have swig no no like it's

00:19:21.529 --> 00:19:26.390
a brand new thing to be fair no sorry yeah we

00:19:26.390 --> 00:19:29.710
say we're gonna travel just came in locally but

00:19:29.710 --> 00:19:31.410
that's not the same oh we've had that for like

00:19:31.410 --> 00:19:38.009
10 years here so yeah no we're in very rural

00:19:38.009 --> 00:19:43.569
like amish country like Fair enough. We had Dunkin'

00:19:43.569 --> 00:19:51.329
Donuts for a long time. That was it. Now, but

00:19:51.329 --> 00:19:54.650
not for that long, honestly. No, probably not.

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I said a Texas Tab. I looked at the menu. That's

00:20:02.549 --> 00:20:06.569
Emma's drink. Emma loves that. That's her favorite.

00:20:06.990 --> 00:20:12.240
What is in that? The Texas Tab. Dr. Pepper, vanilla,

00:20:12.460 --> 00:20:18.960
and coconut, I think. Okay. So I said that Dr.

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Pepper, raspberry puree, and coconut cream. Okay.

00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:25.140
That's what I would like to try. But then for

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the refresher, I would love mango, pineapple,

00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:32.339
fresh lime, and raspberry puree. That sounds

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really good, actually. What do you get? I honestly

00:20:36.059 --> 00:20:38.619
just get a diet Dr. Pepper with no ice and cherry

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and vanilla. i'm basic but yeah like i don't

00:20:42.490 --> 00:20:46.710
the the like named drinks are like a lot for

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me and like i'm just like i i just like the diet

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dr pepper like i'm good i love a good dr pepper

00:20:52.890 --> 00:20:56.490
in reality i don't know if i would actually get

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the named ones you know like every time i would

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probably yeah something less yeah and they also

00:21:02.769 --> 00:21:05.430
don't have diet dr pepper in the named ones which

00:21:05.430 --> 00:21:07.750
is annoying to me i'm like what if someone I

00:21:07.750 --> 00:21:09.150
don't know. What if someone wants to be cutesy

00:21:09.150 --> 00:21:14.130
and healthy? Right? I'm a diet Dr. Pepper drinker.

00:21:14.130 --> 00:21:17.430
I love a diet Dr. Pepper. I do, too. I do, too.

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I am not. I am not a diet nothing. Really? I

00:21:21.710 --> 00:21:24.630
can't. No. It has that taste. I can't do it.

00:21:24.829 --> 00:21:27.589
I can't. I can't do regular. The regular has

00:21:27.589 --> 00:21:32.549
a very acidic aftertaste to me. Hmm. Yeah. Is

00:21:32.549 --> 00:21:35.890
that like that fake sugar taste? I can't get

00:21:35.890 --> 00:21:39.210
past it. fair i'll give you that that's okay

00:21:39.210 --> 00:21:45.289
i love dr pepper um would you rather be a faithful

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or a traitor if you were on the traitors okay

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so i've always said traitor always like and i

00:21:52.210 --> 00:21:57.109
still think i am but after watching the finale

00:21:57.109 --> 00:22:03.750
this season i had some emotions like i felt so

00:22:03.750 --> 00:22:08.329
upset like I was I was like I don't think I could

00:22:08.329 --> 00:22:12.930
do that like he won fair and square yeah but

00:22:12.930 --> 00:22:17.430
like I could I was like I if I was in his shoes

00:22:17.430 --> 00:22:20.289
like I don't know it's not like you can like

00:22:20.289 --> 00:22:22.589
vote yourself out at the end but like I feel

00:22:22.589 --> 00:22:25.289
like I I honestly would have been like I can't

00:22:25.289 --> 00:22:28.710
do this to somebody like I can't I don't know

00:22:29.579 --> 00:22:32.220
I felt the same way. Like I, I struggled deep.

00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:34.460
I, it was that this and the, the first season

00:22:34.460 --> 00:22:36.339
where it was the, the traitor one in the first

00:22:36.339 --> 00:22:39.519
season. I was like, yes. Yeah. I don't like this.

00:22:42.019 --> 00:22:44.359
Maybe I would have felt different if he would

00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:47.720
have left Aaron or Eric, like just him and Eric

00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:50.180
one. Like it might've made me like feel a little

00:22:50.180 --> 00:22:52.099
different about it. Cause it's like, Oh, at least

00:22:52.099 --> 00:22:55.859
two of them. I don't, I don't know. Cause I was

00:22:55.859 --> 00:22:59.200
screaming the whole thing. I was like, figure

00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:01.920
it out mora figure it out like i was just so

00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:06.039
mad like she just wouldn't get it you know that

00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:08.440
was the thing with mora is like she was like

00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:11.799
she was all in on rob like that was that was

00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:15.599
her dude and like that i was like that is that

00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.220
is a wild horse to hit your car too i gotta tell

00:23:18.220 --> 00:23:22.339
you yeah but what about you man which would you

00:23:22.339 --> 00:23:25.460
rather be so i said pass on this question because

00:23:25.460 --> 00:23:29.079
i don't watch traders Oh, fair. I gave her a

00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:31.579
whole rundown. He gave me the whole rundown.

00:23:32.180 --> 00:23:37.660
And I said, I'm just going to say pass. Fair.

00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:43.380
Okay. That's okay. You should. It's really good.

00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:48.000
I love it. I feel like if I were on the show,

00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.059
I definitely would do better as a faithful. But

00:23:52.059 --> 00:23:53.880
I feel like if I were a traitor, like at the

00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:56.059
end, like if I got to the end, I would like.

00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:58.819
I would have to drop every clue on God's green

00:23:58.819 --> 00:24:02.160
earth. Like, Hey, vote me out. Like do something.

00:24:02.180 --> 00:24:04.599
Cause like, I would feel so guilty. Like, cause

00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:07.200
granted it's, it's the game and it's literally

00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:08.940
called the traders. And like, that's the whole

00:24:08.940 --> 00:24:11.500
catch of it. But like, there's, I think there's

00:24:11.500 --> 00:24:12.980
something where you get to know these people

00:24:12.980 --> 00:24:17.720
as people and. Yeah. Like you're rooting for

00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:20.640
the underdog. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

00:24:21.059 --> 00:24:23.539
Cause I mean, I really, really like to win things.

00:24:24.329 --> 00:24:29.430
But so I don't know how I would be. But I also

00:24:29.430 --> 00:24:33.549
like I know midseason the way like Rob turned

00:24:33.549 --> 00:24:35.970
against his other traders. I would never do that.

00:24:35.990 --> 00:24:37.849
You know what I mean? Like I would always feel

00:24:37.849 --> 00:24:42.170
like we were a team as far as we could go. So

00:24:42.170 --> 00:24:45.069
I know like I feel like I would be like a better

00:24:45.069 --> 00:24:50.400
trader, you know, than he was. i think i would

00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:52.900
be like the worst i'm the worst liar i can't

00:24:52.900 --> 00:24:55.660
i i i have a tell when i lie where like i just

00:24:55.660 --> 00:24:58.400
i'm not good at it like i'm just like there's

00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:00.839
i couldn't do it there's no way i like i like

00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.019
be overacting at breakfast every morning i'd

00:25:03.019 --> 00:25:06.720
be like oh no like it'd be like my birdalicious

00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:10.500
with with with uh phaedra like killed him i don't

00:25:10.500 --> 00:25:15.769
know but yeah And the last one I have on my list,

00:25:15.950 --> 00:25:17.769
Marie, you've been on, you've been all in on

00:25:17.769 --> 00:25:19.849
Bravo since the real assets of Orange County.

00:25:19.970 --> 00:25:22.170
So if you think back to all the women that have

00:25:22.170 --> 00:25:25.630
come and gone on our screens on Bravo, which

00:25:25.630 --> 00:25:27.690
housewife or friend of, would you bring back

00:25:27.690 --> 00:25:31.190
and who would you never want to see again? So

00:25:31.190 --> 00:25:36.089
I said, I, so Dorinda, I don't know if that counts.

00:25:36.170 --> 00:25:38.470
Cause like kind of the whole franchise went away,

00:25:38.569 --> 00:25:42.730
but I love me some Dorinda, like a drunk Dorinda.

00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:46.579
she just makes me so happy like she comes up

00:25:46.579 --> 00:25:49.200
with something new to say that's just insane

00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:52.819
and like they become part of like the housewives

00:25:52.819 --> 00:25:55.920
zeitgeist and she hasn't even really been that

00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.900
much like from that many seasons as compared

00:25:58.900 --> 00:26:01.180
to some of them but she was only on like three

00:26:01.180 --> 00:26:05.460
or four yeah yeah but like oh i love her um and

00:26:05.460 --> 00:26:08.039
then i would i would bethany like i don't ever

00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:12.890
need bethany again I just, I loved her in the

00:26:12.890 --> 00:26:17.049
beginning, but I can't Bethany now. Like, I just,

00:26:17.170 --> 00:26:20.890
I don't know. She gets under my skin. See, I

00:26:20.890 --> 00:26:24.029
love Bethany. bethany frankel is literally my

00:26:24.029 --> 00:26:29.390
hero but oh no i love bethany listen i follow

00:26:29.390 --> 00:26:34.750
her on all of the social like i i love how honest

00:26:34.750 --> 00:26:37.890
she is you know like i don't know i just i remember

00:26:37.890 --> 00:26:41.609
bethany when she had nothing i do too that's

00:26:41.609 --> 00:26:44.329
that's why i love her yeah yes and now she like

00:26:44.329 --> 00:26:48.170
created this life for herself and i love it like

00:26:48.170 --> 00:26:52.230
i love that for her i will I will say like with

00:26:52.230 --> 00:26:54.289
Bethany Frankel, she is a polarizing character

00:26:54.289 --> 00:26:58.369
because I can see why she would be a lot for

00:26:58.369 --> 00:27:01.470
some people to handle. And I'm very similar in

00:27:01.470 --> 00:27:03.190
that way where like I don't ever shut up and

00:27:03.190 --> 00:27:05.230
like I'm an aggressive personality and like I'm

00:27:05.230 --> 00:27:07.049
very abrasive and it's like you love me or you

00:27:07.049 --> 00:27:10.609
hate me. There is no in between. So I can see

00:27:10.609 --> 00:27:12.529
why someone would say that. It's just I don't

00:27:12.529 --> 00:27:15.869
love hearing it. It's okay. I'm sorry. We're

00:27:15.869 --> 00:27:18.049
cool. I'm kidding. It's okay. What about you,

00:27:18.069 --> 00:27:21.690
Anne? Who would you want to? uh tutor boot so

00:27:21.690 --> 00:27:26.250
I would love to see Caroline Manzo um from New

00:27:26.250 --> 00:27:29.170
Jersey I loved her like she was just like the

00:27:29.170 --> 00:27:32.930
best such a like a great mom I don't know just

00:27:32.930 --> 00:27:35.569
she she never made me upset like she never pissed

00:27:35.569 --> 00:27:40.130
me off like I really enjoyed her I said um never

00:27:40.130 --> 00:27:44.650
bring back Camille um from Beverly Hills yeah

00:27:44.650 --> 00:27:48.230
Camille is and she like would come back on the

00:27:48.230 --> 00:27:50.910
show often like make her appearance and i'm like

00:27:50.910 --> 00:27:53.569
why is she here why do we keep bringing this

00:27:53.569 --> 00:27:59.329
woman back on the show she's someone who they

00:27:59.329 --> 00:28:02.289
wanted to make her work so bad and like she was

00:28:02.289 --> 00:28:04.990
not built for reality tv like she's like there

00:28:04.990 --> 00:28:07.410
a lot of times like i can't tell like if she's

00:28:07.410 --> 00:28:10.890
like if there's something like emotionally wrong

00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:13.009
like if she's actually being present like i i

00:28:13.009 --> 00:28:15.089
struggle with her because i'm like she this is

00:28:15.089 --> 00:28:18.009
not good for her like that you are not like you're

00:28:18.009 --> 00:28:21.890
not okay right now yeah but yeah yeah i i struggle

00:28:21.890 --> 00:28:26.750
with her um if i'm gonna bring back anyone it

00:28:26.750 --> 00:28:29.190
would be either eileen davidson or lisa rena

00:28:29.190 --> 00:28:31.809
on beverly hills i think they were just yeah

00:28:31.809 --> 00:28:34.250
if i could bring back both i would i think they

00:28:34.250 --> 00:28:38.500
are just lightning in a bottle like i loved them

00:28:38.500 --> 00:28:42.460
together and then i never need to see leanne

00:28:42.460 --> 00:28:47.019
lock in on my screen again from dallas i don't

00:28:47.019 --> 00:28:50.960
know her oh i never watched dallas oh so that

00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:56.390
i know I know Leigh -Anne Locken from like other

00:28:56.390 --> 00:28:59.349
people are talking about her and like other podcasts

00:28:59.349 --> 00:29:02.349
and stuff I listen to, but I never watched Alice.

00:29:02.450 --> 00:29:04.430
It was like one of the things on my list, but

00:29:04.430 --> 00:29:06.269
it was kind of low on the totem pole because

00:29:06.269 --> 00:29:10.190
like it ended. So it was kind of like, I'll get

00:29:10.190 --> 00:29:13.390
to it if I get to it kind of thing. But yeah,

00:29:13.450 --> 00:29:17.470
I don't know her like personality. It's a lot

00:29:17.470 --> 00:29:21.210
like it is. It's a lot like and it's it's not

00:29:21.210 --> 00:29:24.950
a lot because like. i i like messy women there

00:29:24.950 --> 00:29:27.009
was just a lot of problematic behavior that was

00:29:27.009 --> 00:29:32.150
there um and the that that show was hard because

00:29:32.150 --> 00:29:34.309
it's it's it's texas so you like have to put

00:29:34.309 --> 00:29:39.690
it in that context right yeah um cool so emma

00:29:39.690 --> 00:29:41.950
and i also have a fun little segment that we

00:29:41.950 --> 00:29:44.470
do called complaining um what do you guys have

00:29:44.470 --> 00:29:46.309
to complain about today anything in the world

00:29:46.309 --> 00:29:53.009
so i wrote down on the notes but I cannot stand

00:29:53.009 --> 00:29:57.569
when people like I work, you know, in like an

00:29:57.569 --> 00:30:00.990
office setting, et cetera, cannot read a damn

00:30:00.990 --> 00:30:05.130
email that has basic instructions, whether it's

00:30:05.130 --> 00:30:08.849
like, I don't know, we're going to use this new

00:30:08.849 --> 00:30:12.930
application or it's just me telling my team like,

00:30:13.069 --> 00:30:16.049
Hey, this is what needs done. Whatever it is.

00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:20.200
for some like I don't know what has changed but

00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:22.420
I feel like over the last at least like four

00:30:22.420 --> 00:30:25.059
to five years like people have lost the ability

00:30:25.059 --> 00:30:28.339
to read basic instructions and like comprehend

00:30:28.339 --> 00:30:30.599
them and that I don't know that it's just been

00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.200
the last four to five years I'll be honest yeah

00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.299
I just feel like I've been noticing it more and

00:30:36.299 --> 00:30:40.500
more like it just drives me insane when someone

00:30:40.500 --> 00:30:42.400
pops their head in my office well what about

00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.140
this I'm like I literally just an email with

00:30:45.140 --> 00:30:47.559
like so much time and detail that you know what

00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:49.779
i mean like i just yeah i don't know i feel like

00:30:49.779 --> 00:30:53.440
it happens too often no it does i 100 like because

00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:55.240
i'm the same way where i'm like did you read

00:30:55.240 --> 00:31:01.000
the email like yeah yeah we're on this um well

00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:04.819
to what marie just said so we have this app it's

00:31:04.819 --> 00:31:06.519
like called game changer or whatever and it's

00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.400
for you know like our kids with their sports

00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.500
Same thing. Like somebody like they'll write,

00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:13.740
okay, this is the time where we have to meet.

00:31:13.980 --> 00:31:16.180
There's always that one person like a day or

00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:18.240
two later, what time do we have to meet? Where?

00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.779
And I'm like, copy and paste. Like I want to

00:31:20.779 --> 00:31:23.119
copy and paste it. I like, I flip like, and I'm

00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.039
not even the coach, but it makes me so angry.

00:31:25.099 --> 00:31:29.180
So I felt that when you said that. So my complaint

00:31:29.180 --> 00:31:33.440
was, so people who watch videos on their phone

00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:38.259
without AirPods or like headphones. Okay. That's

00:31:38.259 --> 00:31:42.460
my husband. Can you see that? That's my husband.

00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:48.220
It's like at the salon, I have a small salon

00:31:48.220 --> 00:31:50.740
that I work in. So it's like, you know, everyone

00:31:50.740 --> 00:31:52.559
who's in there can hear everyone's conversation

00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.180
kind of thing. So if I'm like working on somebody's

00:31:55.180 --> 00:31:57.319
hair and I have another client walk, you know,

00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.519
come in and sit down and they're watching a video

00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.319
or something. speaker all the way up i'm just

00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.380
like what the hell like do you not realize like

00:32:07.380 --> 00:32:11.099
it just annoys me so that's my complaint it doesn't

00:32:11.099 --> 00:32:14.759
bother me if it's like quiet ish or like if it's

00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.480
like yeah something super quick you're showing

00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.440
someone else but i'm just like who are you what

00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.940
are you doing like who is that for i i agree

00:32:21.940 --> 00:32:23.539
with you i actually agree with both of you on

00:32:23.539 --> 00:32:25.480
your complaints those are very valid complaints

00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:30.180
um I would like to complain about people that

00:32:30.180 --> 00:32:32.500
are physically, mentally, and emotionally unable

00:32:32.500 --> 00:32:35.200
to take out an ounce of accountability for anything

00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.559
in their life. In one of my project groups this

00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.200
semester, there is an individual who it does

00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:46.380
not matter what they do if it is right. There

00:32:46.380 --> 00:32:48.559
is no other answer. They just believe that in

00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:52.180
their soul. If they are questioned on any of

00:32:52.180 --> 00:32:54.819
that, it is excuse, excuse, excuse. This person

00:32:54.819 --> 00:32:56.220
doesn't know what they're talking about. Or like,

00:32:56.220 --> 00:32:58.779
I, even if it was wrong, like, that's not my

00:32:58.779 --> 00:33:00.740
fault. I'm like, I don't care if you live or

00:33:00.740 --> 00:33:02.380
die. Like, I'm just trying to get out of this

00:33:02.380 --> 00:33:06.920
semester alive. Like, please shut up. Yeah. Yeah.

00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:11.140
That always blows me away because as soon as

00:33:11.140 --> 00:33:14.019
someone questions anything I've said, even if

00:33:14.019 --> 00:33:16.339
like in the end, I'm right. I'm always immediately

00:33:16.339 --> 00:33:19.289
question myself. Like, oh. well let me check

00:33:19.289 --> 00:33:21.809
that like did i you know what i mean like right

00:33:21.809 --> 00:33:24.869
i never understand where people get like this

00:33:24.869 --> 00:33:28.509
confidence that when someone says oh you may

00:33:28.509 --> 00:33:32.630
be wrong to be like no i'm not not not that just

00:33:32.630 --> 00:33:35.170
always yeah i run into those people too and it

00:33:35.170 --> 00:33:39.089
always yeah it's crazy i guess i just don't have

00:33:39.089 --> 00:33:42.670
that kind of uh yeah confidence or i'm just not

00:33:42.670 --> 00:33:45.089
an asshole like one or the other you know i think

00:33:45.089 --> 00:33:50.180
it's probably the latter cool so um let's jump

00:33:50.180 --> 00:33:53.339
in uh i say let's jump in we're a half hour in

00:33:53.339 --> 00:33:55.880
but here we are um before we get into anything

00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:00.980
i do want to kind of okay um before we get into

00:34:00.980 --> 00:34:03.039
anything i do kind of want to want to acknowledge

00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:07.619
um robert cosby jr did pass uh now at this point

00:34:07.619 --> 00:34:10.679
it was uh the beginning of last week and I hate

00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:12.800
this. Like, I hate it a lot because, like, there

00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.159
are several people in my family that have struggled

00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.659
with addiction, and I hate that he didn't beat

00:34:17.659 --> 00:34:21.460
what he was dealing with. And I'm also, like,

00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.440
beyond Robert Jr., I am so heartbroken for Mary

00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:27.659
Cosby because, like, you could tell that, like,

00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:32.340
Robert Jr. was her entire world, and that just,

00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.380
like, it's gut -wrenching to think about, like,

00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.659
a parent having to bury their child, first of

00:34:37.659 --> 00:34:40.210
all, but, like... knowing how bad she wanted

00:34:40.210 --> 00:34:43.150
him to beat this like I I hate it for her and

00:34:43.150 --> 00:34:45.750
like I my thoughts go out to her and I hope that

00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:49.050
they are healing because like that sucks yeah

00:34:49.050 --> 00:34:54.210
it's also sad so yeah I can't even imagine yeah

00:34:54.210 --> 00:34:57.610
but um and then Andy Cohen posted a TikTok and

00:34:57.610 --> 00:35:00.650
he said exactly like how I was feeling but he

00:35:00.650 --> 00:35:04.070
said it a lot better so uh thanks Andy but like

00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:09.610
um but uh On to happier and brighter things.

00:35:09.849 --> 00:35:12.050
There's a lot coming over the next few weeks

00:35:12.050 --> 00:35:17.210
to Bravo. So, Ladies of London comes back on

00:35:17.210 --> 00:35:21.670
March 5th. uh season 23 of top chef comes back

00:35:21.670 --> 00:35:25.309
march 9th and i didn't care about uh top chef

00:35:25.309 --> 00:35:27.889
until i met kristen kish on the traders and now

00:35:27.889 --> 00:35:29.530
she has my heart forever so i'm gonna watch it

00:35:29.530 --> 00:35:32.989
this season um yeah secret lives of mormon wives

00:35:32.989 --> 00:35:34.929
comes back and their entire fourth season drops

00:35:34.929 --> 00:35:36.949
on march 12th the real housewives of rhode island

00:35:36.949 --> 00:35:39.309
premieres april 2nd and then the real housewives

00:35:39.309 --> 00:35:41.530
of atlanta comes back for season 17 on april

00:35:41.530 --> 00:35:46.849
5th and i'm so excited like i cannot wait yeah

00:35:47.780 --> 00:35:52.239
a lot I'm very excited for Rhode Island I like

00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.900
I'm excited for a new franchise like it's been

00:35:54.900 --> 00:35:58.099
a long time and it the trailer looked really

00:35:58.099 --> 00:36:01.440
good so my biggest concern is telling them apart

00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:06.719
I agree but I did the same thing with uh Secret

00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.179
Lives and Mormon Wives like I just recently started

00:36:09.179 --> 00:36:11.159
being able to like differentiate between those

00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:12.980
girls so like I'm sure it'll come eventually

00:36:12.980 --> 00:36:18.039
um but uh Marie or I'm Either either one of you

00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:20.980
guys, Marie and do you guys have a like a particular

00:36:20.980 --> 00:36:22.860
one that you're the most excited about? I mean,

00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.019
for Marie, I feel like it's Rhode Island. And

00:36:25.019 --> 00:36:27.079
do you have a favorite one you're excited about?

00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:32.119
No, because I don't really watch any of them

00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.119
anymore. I mean, just the Mormon wives. I really

00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.139
need to catch up. I'm pretty, you know, for recapping

00:36:39.139 --> 00:36:44.150
reality TV. i guess i need to up my game a little

00:36:44.150 --> 00:36:48.369
bit no that's fair i get it so i guess secret

00:36:48.369 --> 00:36:52.590
lives of mormon lives is your answer yes that's

00:36:52.590 --> 00:36:55.769
okay um also you didn't have on your list you

00:36:55.769 --> 00:37:00.670
ever watch southern hospitality no i want to

00:37:00.670 --> 00:37:05.530
get into it this coming week oh is it yeah i

00:37:05.530 --> 00:37:08.130
think it's like wednesday i don't know it's sometime

00:37:08.130 --> 00:37:12.039
this week is the new season and i loved it if

00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.159
you have time i highly recommend it it's very

00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:18.139
good yeah i'll check it out i like i i've been

00:37:18.139 --> 00:37:20.099
meaning to get into like southern charm and southern

00:37:20.099 --> 00:37:22.019
hospitality and like summer house and like the

00:37:22.019 --> 00:37:25.960
the like not core housewife shows because i think

00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:28.099
there's a lot of there's a lot of fun there it's

00:37:28.099 --> 00:37:30.500
just like finding the time to commit to it is

00:37:30.500 --> 00:37:35.159
a lot but no i i i'll probably check southern

00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.579
hospitality out because it's uh it does seem

00:37:38.579 --> 00:37:42.250
very drama fueled and i like that i like mess

00:37:42.250 --> 00:37:46.550
and i like drama yeah it's very good and it's

00:37:46.550 --> 00:37:49.809
quick and like yeah i like it okay i'll check

00:37:49.809 --> 00:37:54.010
it out um marie you put on the list for this

00:37:54.010 --> 00:37:57.650
episode uh whitney levitt's z -way interview

00:37:57.650 --> 00:38:00.849
yes what do you like what do you have what are

00:38:00.849 --> 00:38:02.130
your thoughts what do you have to say about that

00:38:02.510 --> 00:38:06.389
OK, so I never listened to Z -Way interview people

00:38:06.389 --> 00:38:09.070
before Whitney Leavitt and I just started seeing

00:38:09.070 --> 00:38:12.190
clips. So I did like go watch some other ones,

00:38:12.269 --> 00:38:15.889
too. And I kind of then like understood a little

00:38:15.889 --> 00:38:18.630
bit more of how she asked questions and like

00:38:18.630 --> 00:38:20.889
she'll even repeat some of the questions, you

00:38:20.889 --> 00:38:23.429
know, that she asked Whitney. I don't know. I

00:38:23.429 --> 00:38:25.809
kind of realized like Whitney's not that funny.

00:38:26.010 --> 00:38:30.110
Like Whitney tries to be like very funny, but

00:38:30.110 --> 00:38:33.050
like when I watched some of Z -Way's other interviews,

00:38:33.170 --> 00:38:36.650
like people were quick and like came back at

00:38:36.650 --> 00:38:40.150
her with like funny answers or like played along

00:38:40.150 --> 00:38:43.929
with what she had to say in a way that like almost

00:38:43.929 --> 00:38:45.989
made it, like if you ever watched the like Between

00:38:45.989 --> 00:38:48.869
Two Ferns interviews, like it almost made it

00:38:48.869 --> 00:38:52.010
a little bit of like that kind of comedy that's

00:38:52.010 --> 00:38:56.030
like, dry and um i don't know what you want to

00:38:56.030 --> 00:39:00.230
say like but whitney like wasn't quick enough

00:39:00.230 --> 00:39:05.570
so it made it super awkward like she didn't and

00:39:05.570 --> 00:39:07.469
she doesn't know anything about current events

00:39:07.469 --> 00:39:10.590
like nothing she doesn't and she also didn't

00:39:10.590 --> 00:39:12.610
know what the first amendment was which i struggled

00:39:12.610 --> 00:39:16.989
with that was that was a lot yeah what i think

00:39:16.989 --> 00:39:20.030
i recognized was someone who was deeply trying

00:39:20.030 --> 00:39:22.690
to like not be problematic in a way that they

00:39:22.690 --> 00:39:25.449
could put whatever she was saying online and

00:39:25.449 --> 00:39:27.590
like clip it out or whatever like whether or

00:39:27.590 --> 00:39:29.769
not it was taken out of context i think she tried

00:39:29.769 --> 00:39:32.530
to be within those safe lines but i think the

00:39:32.530 --> 00:39:35.969
magic of z -way is i think if you're a good sport

00:39:35.969 --> 00:39:39.250
about it i think z -way will give you a lot to

00:39:39.250 --> 00:39:43.690
work with um and i z -way is genuinely like i

00:39:43.690 --> 00:39:47.510
i if i if she pops up on my timeline i will 1000

00:39:47.510 --> 00:39:49.530
of the time watch her i think she's one of the

00:39:49.530 --> 00:39:52.050
most hysterically funny people on cod's green

00:39:52.050 --> 00:39:53.829
earth and it's it's shocking to me how young

00:39:53.829 --> 00:39:56.369
she is and like she's so quick and like yeah

00:39:56.369 --> 00:39:59.210
there's like a deep wit to her that like a lot

00:39:59.210 --> 00:40:02.059
of people don't like that takes a long time to

00:40:02.059 --> 00:40:04.699
develop so i'm she's very impressive to me but

00:40:04.699 --> 00:40:06.800
like whitney was deeply trying like not to be

00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.340
problematic and it's like i thought the funniest

00:40:09.340 --> 00:40:12.900
thing was like when she was um when z was like

00:40:12.900 --> 00:40:14.719
how many black friends do you have and she goes

00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.880
i have three it's just like oh uh -huh that's

00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:19.519
i don't think that's the answer she was looking

00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.559
for and two of them were layla and z -way so

00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:26.960
yeah yeah yeah no her like immediate thing which

00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:28.619
like no one ever wants to hear is oh my best

00:40:28.619 --> 00:40:31.860
friend's black and i'm like that's like the best

00:40:31.860 --> 00:40:35.320
friend you went on a mission with okay yeah like

00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:40.360
that is like like textbook like of like the answer

00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.719
you don't want from a white person like why would

00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.900
you like like oh you went right there you went

00:40:46.900 --> 00:40:50.760
right and fell into like that like what i don't

00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:54.869
know but I do think for, like, as bumpy as it

00:40:54.869 --> 00:40:58.170
could have been, I think Whitney went in trying

00:40:58.170 --> 00:40:59.969
to be a good sport. Because what I will give

00:40:59.969 --> 00:41:03.610
Whitney is that she, I think, knows who she is.

00:41:03.650 --> 00:41:05.630
And, like, I think she gets the perception and

00:41:05.630 --> 00:41:08.679
how it's developed over time. And when she was

00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:10.300
like honest about like, yeah, I only came back

00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:12.820
on the show to go on, to go on Dancing with the

00:41:12.820 --> 00:41:14.699
Stars. I was like, I appreciate her saying that

00:41:14.699 --> 00:41:17.119
because like, I'm not interested in this whole

00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:19.079
thing of like, I just really want mom talk to

00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:20.599
be a family. No, you don't. That's not a real

00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:24.219
thing. And like, I like, I like Taylor and I

00:41:24.219 --> 00:41:27.440
like Whitney, like being honest about that. Right.

00:41:27.699 --> 00:41:30.239
Yeah. I agree. And that's what we've talked about.

00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.219
We love Whitney when Whitney's honest. Yeah.

00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:38.530
We cannot stand Whitney. in a lot of other instances

00:41:38.530 --> 00:41:41.449
but when she's honest it's like okay that's who

00:41:41.449 --> 00:41:43.849
you are like we're good about it but there's

00:41:43.849 --> 00:41:46.230
definitely some things where like oh my god like

00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:49.949
i i do also find her annoying um but i do like

00:41:49.949 --> 00:41:53.409
when she's honest she's that like millennial

00:41:53.409 --> 00:41:57.050
cringe kind of almost that like i i get why people

00:41:57.050 --> 00:41:58.690
think she's annoying but like i bet if you're

00:41:58.690 --> 00:42:00.329
friends with her like because i think back to

00:42:00.329 --> 00:42:03.309
there was one very specific episode where i think

00:42:03.309 --> 00:42:06.900
the girls were going to um to new orleans and

00:42:06.900 --> 00:42:09.739
uh jen didn't go to new orleans with them because

00:42:09.739 --> 00:42:12.079
she was like she was going through it like in

00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.219
her marriage and like she was newly pregnant

00:42:14.219 --> 00:42:17.159
and whitney came over and like cleaned up the

00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:18.599
house for her and like she was like i'm gonna

00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:21.579
be late i was like she's a good friend so like

00:42:21.579 --> 00:42:25.039
i think yeah I think she doesn't let people into

00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.940
that space on the show sometimes. And like, if

00:42:28.940 --> 00:42:31.679
I go a little bit deeper, I assume it's because

00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:34.139
there's part of her life that she's trying to

00:42:34.139 --> 00:42:38.519
protect, just given like how there was trouble

00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:40.219
in her marriage and there was like, there was

00:42:40.219 --> 00:42:42.679
a lot going on. So I would imagine that she's

00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.460
just not that comfortable. Like as much as she's

00:42:45.460 --> 00:42:46.760
put out there, I don't know if she's that comfortable

00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:48.880
yet. So like, I would like to get to know the

00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:52.730
real Whitney. Yeah. Agree. Yeah. And I, I have

00:42:52.730 --> 00:42:54.750
seen myself in Whitney and like, we've talked

00:42:54.750 --> 00:42:57.710
about this sometimes is because like, I feel

00:42:57.710 --> 00:43:01.710
like she's very honest to the point of like,

00:43:01.769 --> 00:43:05.389
she understands that she's not truly friends

00:43:05.389 --> 00:43:08.710
with these women. Like she is on a TV show with

00:43:08.710 --> 00:43:11.650
them and she does mom talks with them, which

00:43:11.650 --> 00:43:16.170
gets them likes and gets people to their TikTok.

00:43:16.289 --> 00:43:19.550
So like. Okay. It's not like she's using them.

00:43:19.630 --> 00:43:21.429
I don't want to say that, that, but it's like,

00:43:21.469 --> 00:43:24.889
I feel like she more honestly understands the

00:43:24.889 --> 00:43:31.090
relationship. Okay. She's honest about the dynamic.

00:43:31.429 --> 00:43:34.590
Her relationships and the dynamic is the way

00:43:34.590 --> 00:43:37.309
I sometimes can see relationships and dynamics

00:43:37.309 --> 00:43:40.070
and it makes other people uncomfortable because

00:43:40.070 --> 00:43:42.969
other people get close to each other a lot faster.

00:43:43.090 --> 00:43:48.159
Like I, I just don't until I see. her like from

00:43:48.159 --> 00:43:50.760
that perspective because she's like i don't get

00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.159
it we i i showed up i did the things we were

00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:58.739
supposed to do i'm doing this show i i'm i'm

00:43:58.739 --> 00:44:01.880
having the dinner i'm doing this stuff like why

00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.019
do you need me to then send you text messages

00:44:04.019 --> 00:44:07.760
because like in her head that's that's fake like

00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.760
because okay she's not truly friends with them

00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.440
she has her friends like kind of thing i don't

00:44:14.259 --> 00:44:16.920
So that's the perspective I get from it because

00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:19.900
I don't I don't like easily like pull people

00:44:19.900 --> 00:44:23.019
into my circle. So I kind of like see that with

00:44:23.019 --> 00:44:27.380
her. It's like this is my job. And so she has

00:44:27.380 --> 00:44:30.599
a job boundary in relationship with these people.

00:44:31.059 --> 00:44:33.219
Whether that's true or not, I don't know. I'm

00:44:33.219 --> 00:44:35.440
probably projecting, but that's how I know. I

00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.039
think that's fair because I think she has said

00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.539
that on at least one instance. I can remember

00:44:40.539 --> 00:44:43.110
where they were. they were, I think they went

00:44:43.110 --> 00:44:44.650
to stage coach and like, she showed up at the

00:44:44.650 --> 00:44:46.570
house that they were filming in. And she was

00:44:46.570 --> 00:44:48.110
like, I'm going to do some tech talks real quick.

00:44:48.170 --> 00:44:50.190
Cause I'm like contractually obligated to, and

00:44:50.190 --> 00:44:51.690
like, granted she wasn't getting along with the

00:44:51.690 --> 00:44:55.389
women at that time, but like, I think, and your

00:44:55.389 --> 00:44:57.190
perspective is actually very fair. And I've never

00:44:57.190 --> 00:44:59.380
thought about it that way, but like. I think

00:44:59.380 --> 00:45:01.880
from my perspective, it's like, why can't she

00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:03.619
be friends with these women? Because I look at

00:45:03.619 --> 00:45:06.659
people like Michaela and Macy, who I love their

00:45:06.659 --> 00:45:08.980
friendship. And that is a real, genuine friendship.

00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.639
And it was the same way at one point. I want

00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:13.119
to believe it was the same way at one point with

00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:18.639
Demi and Jessie. I don't know that Demi ever

00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:24.820
had a genuine bone in her body. But I like to

00:45:24.820 --> 00:45:27.820
see that kind of friendship. blossom a little

00:45:27.820 --> 00:45:30.559
bit and like and i i hope we get more of those

00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:32.539
genuine friendships because andy cohen's talked

00:45:32.539 --> 00:45:34.559
a lot about this we're like the best housewife

00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.000
shows are the ones where you know the women are

00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:39.199
friends in real life and it's like i think that's

00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:40.860
why we struck a little bit with beverly hills

00:45:40.860 --> 00:45:44.599
with with orange county with um with some of

00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.099
the the housewives in miami where like you know

00:45:47.099 --> 00:45:50.099
that they don't hang out like yes what are we

00:45:50.099 --> 00:45:52.880
doing here so like i hope that we get more of

00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:57.099
that especially with um with oh god miranda coming

00:45:57.099 --> 00:45:59.599
back to back into the group because i think she's

00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.039
just a cool girl and i can't wait to get to know

00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:06.059
more about her yeah yeah miranda's like i have

00:46:06.059 --> 00:46:09.329
a crush on her she is like you too i'm like god

00:46:09.329 --> 00:46:12.110
she's hot like she is so yeah there's not an

00:46:12.110 --> 00:46:14.010
ugly one on that cast like let's just call no

00:46:14.010 --> 00:46:18.550
they're all gorgeous but like miranda's like

00:46:18.550 --> 00:46:20.389
there's just something about her where i'm like

00:46:20.389 --> 00:46:23.489
you are cool like i want to be your friend yeah

00:46:23.489 --> 00:46:26.070
i feel like she's cool and almost a little dorky

00:46:26.070 --> 00:46:28.289
which makes her even cooler like all maybe that's

00:46:28.289 --> 00:46:31.650
what it is yeah yeah i don't know what it is

00:46:31.650 --> 00:46:33.929
but yeah it's like a genuineness though it's

00:46:33.929 --> 00:46:36.070
like this is who i am what are you gonna do yeah

00:46:36.070 --> 00:46:38.050
i met out with taylor what are you gonna do yeah

00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:43.599
yeah exactly i love it um so and i'm assuming

00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:47.179
you didn't watch the finale of the traitors or

00:46:47.179 --> 00:46:52.000
the reunion no okay that's okay well then marie

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.920
tell us what you think about it i just grieved

00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:56.780
at the i think i already i mean i was just like

00:46:56.780 --> 00:47:03.480
so annoyed that like i couldn't get Maura to

00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:07.139
like hear me or like believe Tara Tara like I

00:47:07.139 --> 00:47:09.940
was just like come on I like so many times I

00:47:09.940 --> 00:47:12.360
kept thinking Tara got her like Tara is gonna

00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:14.780
pull her over outside she's gonna believe it

00:47:14.780 --> 00:47:18.480
but then I think as soon as we found out that

00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:20.599
Maura was getting on that helicopter with Rob

00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.099
I was like nope it's done like they shouldn't

00:47:24.099 --> 00:47:27.190
have left those two go together yes and i was

00:47:27.190 --> 00:47:31.190
like oh wrong move wrong move guys like he is

00:47:31.190 --> 00:47:33.510
going this is it this is like the final straw

00:47:33.510 --> 00:47:39.710
like yeah he's gonna have her i this season from

00:47:39.710 --> 00:47:44.710
start to finish was lightning in a bottle like

00:47:44.710 --> 00:47:47.590
it was nothing short of like cinema i loved every

00:47:47.590 --> 00:47:53.159
second of it um I felt so bad at the very end,

00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:55.079
though, when Maura was like, I feel so stupid.

00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:56.820
I'm like an idiot. Like, because I was like,

00:47:56.900 --> 00:47:59.980
oh, that's real. Because I think I was watching

00:47:59.980 --> 00:48:03.099
some TikTok where she was like, I think in her

00:48:03.099 --> 00:48:04.980
mind, she thought she was going to get like the

00:48:04.980 --> 00:48:07.679
Boston Rob ending where like, she ends up with

00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:11.599
Rob Rauch and like, they live happily ever after,

00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:13.900
which, by the way, I would love that too, Rob

00:48:13.900 --> 00:48:17.719
Rauch, if you're listening. But like, I... i

00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.840
i was like oh she's she feels embarrassed and

00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:23.579
that sucks like that really sucks and like yeah

00:48:23.579 --> 00:48:25.360
there was something about like when she looked

00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.360
at him and she said don't don't speak stop talking

00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.360
like i was like oh she's taking back her power

00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:33.460
a little bit because like she's mad like yeah

00:48:33.460 --> 00:48:37.739
yeah yeah yeah i was just like because she stood

00:48:37.739 --> 00:48:40.800
there for so long and she just i think in the

00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.000
reunion she said i just thought he was gonna

00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:46.829
say i'm kidding like she just could not like

00:48:46.829 --> 00:48:48.710
nothing was going to convince her that he was

00:48:48.710 --> 00:48:53.309
a traitor like she just was so 100 on board with

00:48:53.309 --> 00:48:56.409
like knowing that he was a faithful with her

00:48:56.409 --> 00:49:00.809
like and the whole house fell under his spell

00:49:00.809 --> 00:49:03.010
yeah you know what i mean by the way i would

00:49:03.010 --> 00:49:05.010
have to like let me just be real with you he

00:49:05.010 --> 00:49:06.110
could have murdered me and i would have been

00:49:06.110 --> 00:49:11.869
like that's my fault that's on me So I don't

00:49:11.869 --> 00:49:14.090
judge me, but I watch this with my eight and

00:49:14.090 --> 00:49:17.289
six year old. Like it has become our show. So

00:49:17.289 --> 00:49:19.949
they love it. It's not like we're watching Love

00:49:19.949 --> 00:49:23.469
Island with them. Like it's fine. I know. And

00:49:23.469 --> 00:49:26.690
so my six year old, she was like, I just love

00:49:26.690 --> 00:49:29.269
his hair. And my eight year old's like, I think

00:49:29.269 --> 00:49:32.050
it's his face. And I'm like, oh God, even my

00:49:32.050 --> 00:49:38.579
children are like falling for him. he is annoyingly

00:49:38.579 --> 00:49:40.699
attractive like that's the problem is like he's

00:49:40.699 --> 00:49:42.840
so classically handsome and like he's got that

00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.260
like i like to go catch snakes in the backyard

00:49:45.260 --> 00:49:48.860
like he's so hot and i'm like what oh my god

00:49:48.860 --> 00:49:53.420
there's nothing there's nothing hotter yeah and

00:49:53.420 --> 00:49:55.920
then he ended up actually being semi -intelligent

00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.739
too you know like with the commiserate thing

00:49:58.739 --> 00:50:02.539
yes yes i loved when he was like i can't stand

00:50:02.539 --> 00:50:04.440
this that is not the definition of that word

00:50:06.269 --> 00:50:10.389
he's he's read a dictionary like yeah he knows

00:50:10.389 --> 00:50:18.730
definitions so proud of him oh my god uh but

00:50:18.730 --> 00:50:21.750
yeah it was uh it was a good one though it was

00:50:21.750 --> 00:50:25.170
a good ending but it was it had me feeling things

00:50:25.170 --> 00:50:29.269
like i was very upset like it it it was like

00:50:29.269 --> 00:50:32.530
exciting but it also like made me sad i was like

00:50:32.530 --> 00:50:36.159
oh i just felt so bad for her i agree because

00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.800
like for me it was like i remember seeing the

00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:41.460
first season where the traitor won and i was

00:50:41.460 --> 00:50:44.099
like i didn't i didn't like that i also that

00:50:44.099 --> 00:50:46.739
that cast didn't work together like i thought

00:50:46.739 --> 00:50:49.099
it was it was a strange group of people but like

00:50:49.099 --> 00:50:53.960
yeah but then like you see season two and season

00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:56.960
three and like season three that you couldn't

00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:58.559
have picked a better group of people to win i

00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:02.300
mean dolores and and gabby windy like i couldn't

00:51:02.300 --> 00:51:04.800
get enough of that so like I was like, okay,

00:51:04.860 --> 00:51:06.239
so maybe they're going to switch it up this year

00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:08.139
and, like, let a trader win. And I was like,

00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:10.239
if it is going to be any... I mean, they had

00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:12.599
good traders this year. Lisa Rinna, Candice,

00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:18.820
and Rob. Like, great traders. I agree, though.

00:51:18.860 --> 00:51:21.280
I was like, I didn't want... Because, like, I...

00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:23.099
didn't think I was gonna like Johnny and Tara

00:51:23.099 --> 00:51:25.280
as much as I did they they grew on me and I was

00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:28.340
like I did like them going to the end yeah like

00:51:28.340 --> 00:51:30.019
they were and especially after like you found

00:51:30.019 --> 00:51:31.739
out that they were like I mean after we knew

00:51:31.739 --> 00:51:33.340
it but like as soon as they like were honest

00:51:33.340 --> 00:51:35.659
about being friends I was like oh they're yeah

00:51:35.659 --> 00:51:39.840
I like their friendship like I was kind of like

00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:43.239
how didn't people know this I don't know like

00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:47.280
I mean I guess I grew up with like you're a little

00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.039
bit younger so like you don't i don't know like

00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.639
that was like my olympics was like tara lapinski

00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:55.659
and like i knew like they've been you know like

00:51:55.659 --> 00:51:58.099
friends and everything but no one seemed to like

00:51:58.099 --> 00:52:00.880
get that i'm like i don't know i thought everyone

00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:05.000
knew that i remember something after that olympics

00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.980
like i i knew they were like in the same world

00:52:07.980 --> 00:52:10.420
because like the figure skating world is like

00:52:10.420 --> 00:52:13.780
the size of a postage stamp but like i didn't

00:52:13.780 --> 00:52:16.389
realize they were like best best best friends

00:52:16.389 --> 00:52:19.650
and like i i like i like i just i thought they

00:52:19.650 --> 00:52:21.829
were like co -workers i guess like but no i thought

00:52:21.829 --> 00:52:23.570
like i love their friendship i think it's so

00:52:23.570 --> 00:52:29.090
cool yeah yeah yeah um sorry that you didn't

00:52:29.090 --> 00:52:31.690
like it ann i wish i had i wish i had i didn't

00:52:31.690 --> 00:52:34.050
watch it it's not that i didn't like it i just

00:52:34.050 --> 00:52:37.710
she needs to because i'll watch it let's add

00:52:37.710 --> 00:52:40.869
that to my list you guys are a survivor family

00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:45.460
yeah oh if you're like survivor and stuff so

00:52:45.460 --> 00:52:48.659
i'm like between you knowing all the housewives

00:52:48.659 --> 00:52:50.920
and knowing survivor like you're gonna know way

00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.800
more cast members than i even do because i don't

00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:57.639
watch big brother or survivor so yeah i don't

00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:01.840
want to say big now that they're on like their

00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:04.119
50th season or whatever like i can take it or

00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:08.369
leave it but um with With the traitors, like

00:53:08.369 --> 00:53:11.110
I think it was season two, I was watching in

00:53:11.110 --> 00:53:13.250
the office that Emma and I shared and like I

00:53:13.250 --> 00:53:15.369
was like gasping at like someone getting murdered

00:53:15.369 --> 00:53:17.849
or something. And Emma like literally turns around

00:53:17.849 --> 00:53:19.050
and looks at me. She goes, well, they really

00:53:19.050 --> 00:53:23.170
found their target audience here. In the ongoing

00:53:23.170 --> 00:53:25.010
joke with that show, because it's like I get

00:53:25.010 --> 00:53:29.809
deep into that. I love the traitors. Yeah, I

00:53:29.809 --> 00:53:33.559
do too. I really like it. And I need you to watch

00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:35.320
it. Like when you do watch it, I want you to

00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:37.280
come back on and I want us to unpack it together.

00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:45.159
All right, I will. So we also revisited the Secret

00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:48.900
Lives of Mormon Wives in honor of season four

00:53:48.900 --> 00:53:51.119
dropping next week. So I thought, all right,

00:53:51.179 --> 00:53:54.099
this wasn't really my idea. This was Marie and

00:53:54.099 --> 00:53:57.300
Anne's idea that we kind of like revisit the

00:53:57.300 --> 00:54:00.659
last three seasons and hit some really highlights.

00:54:01.929 --> 00:54:04.929
Because why not? And then I also just started

00:54:04.929 --> 00:54:08.429
being able to tell the women apart because Jesse,

00:54:08.650 --> 00:54:12.110
Demi, and Taylor, in my mind, were all exactly

00:54:12.110 --> 00:54:15.840
the same person. Now it's kind of it's refreshing

00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:17.340
to be able to watch that through the eyes of

00:54:17.340 --> 00:54:20.360
being able to differentiate them. Yeah, it's

00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.619
so funny you say that because I went back and

00:54:22.619 --> 00:54:25.300
watched each of them to like refresh myself and

00:54:25.300 --> 00:54:26.760
kind of like fast forwarded through a little

00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:29.639
bit. And my first note was like, how did I ever

00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:32.920
get Jesse and Demi mixed up? Because like now,

00:54:33.179 --> 00:54:36.840
like I can totally tell. But that first season.

00:54:37.449 --> 00:54:40.690
I was bad. Like, I could not tell them apart

00:54:40.690 --> 00:54:43.429
for anything. It was so crazy. I was bad until

00:54:43.429 --> 00:54:47.849
the middle of season three. Yeah. Oh, wow. See,

00:54:47.949 --> 00:54:50.809
I always knew. I mean, there was moments that

00:54:50.809 --> 00:54:52.750
I was like, oh, wow, they do really resemble

00:54:52.750 --> 00:54:56.630
each other. But I feel like since Jessie has

00:54:56.630 --> 00:54:59.170
really gotten a lot of work done, I think she's

00:54:59.170 --> 00:55:04.449
looking more like Denise. Really? Yes. Like,

00:55:04.469 --> 00:55:08.030
there was a TikTok that they had posted. I really

00:55:08.030 --> 00:55:10.889
did not know if it was Jessie or Demi in the

00:55:10.889 --> 00:55:13.349
TikTok. I mean, it was Jessie because they weren't

00:55:13.349 --> 00:55:16.369
even speaking to Demi, but I could not believe

00:55:16.369 --> 00:55:20.969
how much she resembled her. I'm looking her up

00:55:20.969 --> 00:55:26.329
on Instagram right now because I... Oh, you're

00:55:26.329 --> 00:55:30.250
right. Okay. No, it's like the most recent Instagram

00:55:30.250 --> 00:55:34.969
she's posted. I'm like, oh, I 100 % see what

00:55:34.969 --> 00:55:41.949
you're talking about. Yeah. it's crazy well getting

00:55:41.949 --> 00:55:46.630
into it then um so we started with season one

00:55:46.630 --> 00:55:49.570
episode seven the book of trust and i think one

00:55:49.570 --> 00:55:51.730
of my favorite things going back and like seeing

00:55:51.730 --> 00:55:57.289
the first seasons of um like any any housewives

00:55:57.289 --> 00:56:01.710
any any show like this is like before they were

00:56:01.710 --> 00:56:03.969
like conscious of the fact that they were on

00:56:03.969 --> 00:56:06.550
camera because like you see like some like some

00:56:06.550 --> 00:56:08.150
of the hair that they're doing and like and i'm

00:56:08.150 --> 00:56:10.210
just like oh they're just throwing it all at

00:56:10.210 --> 00:56:13.969
the wall and hoping for the best yeah and like

00:56:13.969 --> 00:56:20.809
someone like go ahead someone like jesse like

00:56:20.809 --> 00:56:24.610
who does hair and like she's so good at it like

00:56:24.610 --> 00:56:27.250
when they were in vegas i was like diva what

00:56:27.250 --> 00:56:30.449
is going on yeah yeah she had like that weird

00:56:30.449 --> 00:56:34.449
updo but like yeah had had clip it or um had

00:56:34.449 --> 00:56:38.250
her extension so like yes you could like i where

00:56:38.250 --> 00:56:42.650
i was like what is happening i didn't even like

00:56:42.650 --> 00:56:45.449
realize it the first time i watched it i don't

00:56:45.449 --> 00:56:47.889
think but i was like i did that i that stood

00:56:47.889 --> 00:56:52.309
out to me like a lot this time yeah no that was

00:56:52.309 --> 00:56:55.619
like one of my biggest pet peeves like And every

00:56:55.619 --> 00:56:57.480
time that that camera went at one of the girls,

00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.599
you could see their, like, extension. And I'm

00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:03.480
like, what is happening? Can we please fix this?

00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.619
This was a thing with Layla, like, up until season

00:57:07.619 --> 00:57:09.980
three, though, where, like, the producers did

00:57:09.980 --> 00:57:12.400
her dirty on that show. Oh, yeah. You could see,

00:57:12.460 --> 00:57:13.880
like, the tape and extensions. Like, I felt,

00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:18.420
oh, I agree. Yeah. I typically, I'll be honest,

00:57:18.500 --> 00:57:20.519
I typically take, like, deep, detailed notes

00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.840
about, like, each of the episodes I watch, but,

00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:25.179
like, I also watch these this morning, like,

00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:29.059
so forgive me if I miss anything. And feel free

00:57:29.059 --> 00:57:33.340
to jump in with anything. But, um, so this was

00:57:33.340 --> 00:57:35.940
the episode where they're kind of, like, it's

00:57:35.940 --> 00:57:37.940
the aftermath of the Vegas thing, and they, like,

00:57:37.940 --> 00:57:42.460
go to Chippendales, and Zach's doing his whole

00:57:42.460 --> 00:57:44.400
being on the cross thing about, like, how he

00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.539
can't be with someone who's doesn't have morals

00:57:47.539 --> 00:57:50.739
or whatever and like I think back to like I've

00:57:50.739 --> 00:57:52.860
been to Vegas I've been there many times I've

00:57:52.860 --> 00:57:56.780
been to one of these shows and my I guess my

00:57:56.780 --> 00:57:58.519
question is is like do you think these women

00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.340
are like going in and like hooking up with these

00:58:00.340 --> 00:58:02.219
men like is that what you think is happening

00:58:02.219 --> 00:58:05.219
like because like that's it's yeah it's the whole

00:58:05.219 --> 00:58:07.139
thing is it's like it's a fantasy it's one night

00:58:07.139 --> 00:58:09.039
we watch these guys dance for an hour and it's

00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:10.940
like we have something crazy to talk about at

00:58:10.940 --> 00:58:12.559
work the next week like what right it's not that

00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:17.320
big of a deal right yes yeah I was so frustrated

00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.840
again, going back. I was just, I think also because

00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:22.739
of the way they clipped it together with him

00:58:22.739 --> 00:58:25.880
sitting at the poker tables. And I was like,

00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:29.719
it almost seemed like going back, he started

00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:32.159
a fight just so he'd have the entire night to

00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:35.440
himself to gamble without interruption. You know,

00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:39.559
like I was like, or he just felt guilty. So he's

00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:41.880
like, I have. to find what she's doing wrong

00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:45.380
so that i don't feel as guilty doing my interesting

00:58:45.380 --> 00:58:48.260
okay you know like that's how i saw it the second

00:58:48.260 --> 00:58:52.679
time through yeah i was that's actually a really

00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:54.719
good point i never thought about that i mean

00:58:54.719 --> 00:59:01.360
yeah i mean he like he does seem to like have

00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.099
a better redemption story than some of the other

00:59:04.099 --> 00:59:06.900
guys um i agree you know as the seasons have

00:59:06.900 --> 00:59:10.039
gone on but man going back to this i was like

00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:14.860
whoa he was he was something yeah i said this

00:59:14.860 --> 00:59:18.139
was the episode that zach made like america hate

00:59:18.139 --> 00:59:21.000
him i agree i was literally about to say that

00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:27.900
because like yeah i forgot how nasty it was um

00:59:27.900 --> 00:59:30.480
yes and then what else happened i'm like the

00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.519
things he was texting her yeah yeah he said he

00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:36.380
doesn't have her anymore he sent her all yeah

00:59:36.380 --> 00:59:39.900
yeah i don't love you like i'm gonna take your

00:59:39.900 --> 00:59:45.920
kids away from you um like crazy stuff yeah like

00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:50.539
i forgot how bad it was yeah like it was and

00:59:50.539 --> 00:59:53.400
like i think because i always get curious about

00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:55.480
like the behind the scenes stuff and i'm like

00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:57.619
oh he was willing to say this when he knew cameras

00:59:57.619 --> 01:00:01.000
were rolling how bad does it get when the cameras

01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:07.500
go down yep like yes exactly um and yeah that

01:00:07.500 --> 01:00:12.539
was rough yeah i also noted because obviously

01:00:12.539 --> 01:00:15.739
we now know everything that has happened up through

01:00:15.739 --> 01:00:22.829
season three but Jesse was hard going for Zach

01:00:22.829 --> 01:00:25.429
and Jen's marriage and talking about how, how

01:00:25.429 --> 01:00:27.929
can you be like this? Like how can you be like

01:00:27.929 --> 01:00:33.329
this? Like she was big on making Jen feel really

01:00:33.329 --> 01:00:36.130
bad about the fact that like she wasn't standing

01:00:36.130 --> 01:00:38.809
up for herself, that she like left, that like

01:00:38.809 --> 01:00:42.730
she had a lot to say. And I'm like, wow, you

01:00:42.730 --> 01:00:47.440
were behind the scenes in a. abusive relationship

01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:51.239
right because we now know how jordan treated

01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.079
you and jordan has not had a redemption story

01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:57.760
like jordan is still out there on podcasts saying

01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:00.079
well she's wrong too well you don't know how

01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:06.059
she is like i yeah it was interesting going back

01:01:06.059 --> 01:01:10.880
i think that jesse was 100 projecting there because

01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:16.159
like i think i think if there if if the if the

01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.099
fighting between jesse and uh jordan was bad

01:01:19.099 --> 01:01:22.139
before like i imagine that what what happened

01:01:22.139 --> 01:01:24.659
with marciano only made it a million times worse

01:01:24.659 --> 01:01:26.840
so like if it if it was going on like i would

01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:28.400
imagine like it was something that jesse could

01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.460
let go but like it was enough to make her project

01:01:30.460 --> 01:01:35.699
onto um jen what she wishes she could have said

01:01:35.699 --> 01:01:40.280
i but lord have mercy like that entire that whole

01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:43.989
thing with jen and zach i was like i'm glad that

01:01:43.989 --> 01:01:46.170
they like figured it out but like i don't know

01:01:46.170 --> 01:01:48.090
that i could have come back from that honestly

01:01:48.090 --> 01:01:50.230
like like hearing that you don't love me anymore

01:01:50.230 --> 01:01:56.269
i'm like well bye yeah yeah yeah i know it was

01:01:56.269 --> 01:02:00.869
really really bad i cannot imagine um so the

01:02:00.869 --> 01:02:03.590
next morning they're all like getting up they're

01:02:03.590 --> 01:02:06.650
all doing their thing and like i i love that

01:02:06.650 --> 01:02:13.659
uh what's his face the taylor's guy um dakota

01:02:13.659 --> 01:02:17.019
oh my dakota yes thank you uh dakota calls her

01:02:17.019 --> 01:02:18.340
and she answers the phone and she's like yeah

01:02:18.340 --> 01:02:20.099
we went but we went backstage with these guys

01:02:20.099 --> 01:02:22.559
and then he's like well you didn't tell me that

01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:24.639
last night and she goes i'm telling you now yeah

01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:27.800
i loved her yeah i love everything about taylor

01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:31.059
i think what i do believe about taylor is what

01:02:31.059 --> 01:02:33.420
you see is a thousand percent what you get like

01:02:33.420 --> 01:02:35.440
i don't think there's i don't think she puts

01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:40.210
on any type of like anything for this show i

01:02:40.210 --> 01:02:41.849
think i don't even think she has a hulu subscription

01:02:41.849 --> 01:02:44.409
i think she's never seen the show i think that

01:02:44.409 --> 01:02:47.349
she's just being silly in herself yeah yeah i

01:02:47.349 --> 01:02:50.489
love her a hundred percent she does not yeah

01:02:50.489 --> 01:02:53.650
there's no like games with her there's no nothing

01:02:53.650 --> 01:02:57.030
she just is like is what it is i think i said

01:02:57.030 --> 01:02:58.550
it before i was like you know when people say

01:02:58.550 --> 01:03:01.010
like oh they're playing chess and i'm playing

01:03:01.010 --> 01:03:04.590
checkers whatever i was like with her it's like

01:03:04.889 --> 01:03:07.070
the rest of the cast is trying to play chess

01:03:07.070 --> 01:03:09.510
and she's playing chutes and ladders like it's

01:03:09.510 --> 01:03:13.809
just whatever comes goes like she has no like

01:03:13.809 --> 01:03:17.210
she's not she does not care anything anything

01:03:17.210 --> 01:03:23.869
no yeah yeah i love it i love it so much um and

01:03:23.869 --> 01:03:26.269
then i'm gonna be super honest i do not remember

01:03:26.269 --> 01:03:28.130
what happened after that so you guys take over

01:03:28.130 --> 01:03:33.119
from um for that not a time it was a lot of a

01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:35.639
lot of little stuff here and there like i think

01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:38.420
dakota ended up like coming in the house and

01:03:38.420 --> 01:03:41.780
he wanted to go talk to taylor and she like broke

01:03:41.780 --> 01:03:44.500
down hysterically crying because she was like

01:03:44.500 --> 01:03:47.019
pregnant i think she was like 12 days out from

01:03:47.019 --> 01:03:52.389
her due date or something um uh that was about

01:03:52.389 --> 01:03:54.329
it like that was the next biggest thing like

01:03:54.329 --> 01:03:56.789
there was literally nothing it was like macy

01:03:56.789 --> 01:03:59.150
and mikaela trying to figure out the name brand

01:03:59.150 --> 01:04:01.630
of a couch and like it was like weird little

01:04:01.630 --> 01:04:04.289
things like there was nothing else much in the

01:04:04.289 --> 01:04:08.949
episode that was like worth of note yeah so yeah

01:04:08.949 --> 01:04:10.590
i think the only other thing that happened was

01:04:10.590 --> 01:04:14.690
dakota coming in and talking to um taylor like

01:04:14.690 --> 01:04:17.210
he like broke in when she passed me yeah when

01:04:17.210 --> 01:04:19.800
she was like napping yeah and then he just like

01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:24.099
went she was sleeping lord have mercy i he's

01:04:24.099 --> 01:04:27.340
like i dakota's another one that like i want

01:04:27.340 --> 01:04:29.199
to like him i really really do because i'm like

01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:33.599
i think there's something so sweet about like

01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:35.579
this like oh i'm from iowa or whatever but like

01:04:35.579 --> 01:04:37.679
there's just something there where i like i i

01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:41.239
can't i can't with him it's just it's no i know

01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:44.360
i that's i said the same thing about dakota like

01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.360
i feel like you constantly want to keep giving

01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:48.360
him chances because i'm like oh he's going to

01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:50.920
change this time he's going to do better and

01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:54.900
then uh at the last reunion i was just like i'm

01:04:54.900 --> 01:04:58.480
done i'm done like you can't anymore like i've

01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:02.440
never seen anything like it yeah that was awful

01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:07.380
awful but well the other sick part is like I

01:05:07.380 --> 01:05:09.679
have to imagine it's a little different from

01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:13.840
the housewives where everyone is tied to a housewife.

01:05:13.980 --> 01:05:16.619
I have a feeling Dakota's got to be his own cast

01:05:16.619 --> 01:05:18.880
member or something because I don't see how he

01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:22.500
keeps getting back on this show. Yeah. After

01:05:22.500 --> 01:05:25.980
all that, I'm like, what are you doing? He's

01:05:25.980 --> 01:05:30.280
someone where I get mad at how many chances everyone's

01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:32.000
willing to give him and he's still able to mess

01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.519
it up. I'm like, you can't get out of your own

01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:39.219
way, dude. That's hard. yeah yeah he's not my

01:05:39.219 --> 01:05:43.539
favorite at all no but yeah i don't have much

01:05:43.539 --> 01:05:46.619
else for that one i don't think there was a lot

01:05:46.619 --> 01:05:52.360
okay um so then for season two we chose episode

01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:56.559
seven again the book of gratitude and i liked

01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:04.880
this episode i liked it a lot um yeah um so I

01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:07.840
remember like calling this out when, when Emma

01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:09.820
and I covered this episode on bestie approved,

01:06:10.019 --> 01:06:13.119
but like, I see Taylor getting out of that bag

01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.460
when she goes to Dakota's Airbnb. I'm sorry.

01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:17.139
She gets out of her car when she goes to Dakota's

01:06:17.139 --> 01:06:20.980
Airbnb and she's wearing that go yard bag out.

01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:24.300
Like I have never seen a bag as much as I've

01:06:24.300 --> 01:06:26.780
seen Taylor Frankie Paul with that go yard, like

01:06:26.780 --> 01:06:34.599
tote constantly. Yeah. But I like, I wrote, I

01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:36.400
also remember this was a big thing for Emma.

01:06:36.500 --> 01:06:41.320
Like Dakota didn't have baby wipes at his house.

01:06:42.099 --> 01:06:47.420
Yes. I wrote like, this is the episode where

01:06:47.420 --> 01:06:50.880
they let poor Ever like in a shitty diaper because

01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:54.059
they don't even have enough like thought process

01:06:54.059 --> 01:06:57.280
to be like, oh, we could use the paper towels

01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:00.159
and wet them. Like there was other things that

01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.440
could have happened. Like, yes. Should the man

01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:05.980
have had baby wipes at his house? 100 % like

01:07:05.980 --> 01:07:09.139
being a parent, we have baby wipes. We had baby

01:07:09.139 --> 01:07:11.579
wipes everywhere. Like they were just constantly

01:07:11.579 --> 01:07:15.260
all over the place. I couldn't imagine running

01:07:15.260 --> 01:07:18.820
out of them, but like there are other ways to

01:07:18.820 --> 01:07:21.780
clean up a baby besides let them sit in a shitty

01:07:21.780 --> 01:07:25.539
diaper. There are like, you can figure it out,

01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:29.500
but they didn't. It was weird to me. can i be

01:07:29.500 --> 01:07:31.860
so real with you i the entire time i was like

01:07:31.860 --> 01:07:33.739
i don't see what the big deal is like i like

01:07:33.739 --> 01:07:36.019
and then emma was like you're an idiot like don't

01:07:36.019 --> 01:07:40.400
say that out loud because i don't i don't like

01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:42.940
it like what am i gonna do with that oh my gosh

01:07:42.940 --> 01:07:45.340
like you didn't think it was a big deal that

01:07:45.340 --> 01:07:48.119
they didn't change his diaper or like that he

01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:50.500
didn't have baby wipes that he didn't have baby

01:07:50.500 --> 01:07:52.400
wipes because i was like oh surely he's just

01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:54.980
gonna go get him if he needs him like yeah right

01:07:56.110 --> 01:07:58.489
but i also like i think i'm giving him a lot

01:07:58.489 --> 01:08:02.909
of credit there so i could be wrong i don't know

01:08:02.909 --> 01:08:05.389
because i mean that wasn't like top of my thing

01:08:05.389 --> 01:08:08.230
that like yeah like there were things that we

01:08:08.230 --> 01:08:10.469
forgot all the time i can't even tell you how

01:08:10.469 --> 01:08:13.050
many times we went somewhere and forgot a bottle

01:08:13.050 --> 01:08:15.929
or you know just something a diaper something

01:08:15.929 --> 01:08:20.250
so stupid So, I mean, it happens. But I mean,

01:08:20.310 --> 01:08:22.390
like, I get what Marie's saying. Like, yeah,

01:08:22.510 --> 01:08:24.430
take them and hose them off in the bathroom,

01:08:24.670 --> 01:08:26.550
like in the tub. You know what I mean? Use a

01:08:26.550 --> 01:08:28.609
towel, wipe them off. Like, I don't know. There

01:08:28.609 --> 01:08:31.310
were so many things like they made this into

01:08:31.310 --> 01:08:34.670
be way more than what it needed to be. That was

01:08:34.670 --> 01:08:37.770
the part that annoyed me, which is how long they

01:08:37.770 --> 01:08:40.590
like kept filming and like wouldn't get this

01:08:40.590 --> 01:08:45.479
poor kid out of his wet, shitty diaper. There

01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:50.220
are other ways to clean up a butt than wet wipes.

01:08:50.659 --> 01:08:54.420
I think that was the part that like drove me

01:08:54.420 --> 01:09:00.500
insane. Yeah. The other thing, when you said

01:09:00.500 --> 01:09:04.680
about Taylor's bag, did you, the Amazon Prime

01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:09.779
commercial that like Jesse and Demi had where

01:09:09.779 --> 01:09:12.539
Jesse goes over to her house to wrap Christmas

01:09:12.539 --> 01:09:16.470
gifts. oh yeah and they have two prime boxes

01:09:16.470 --> 01:09:19.130
on the porch they're like we love amazon prime

01:09:19.130 --> 01:09:22.810
it's so fast and like they bring them in and

01:09:22.810 --> 01:09:25.210
they show her cutting through the amazon prime

01:09:25.210 --> 01:09:27.850
tape and i was like was that this episode wow

01:09:27.850 --> 01:09:31.649
like i think so that's the one i took no oh i

01:09:31.649 --> 01:09:34.729
like i don't i mean i have the dakota diaper

01:09:34.729 --> 01:09:37.189
thing too so it should be the same it was like

01:09:37.189 --> 01:09:39.369
the beginning it was one of the first things

01:09:39.369 --> 01:09:43.319
yeah i must have fully just like because i remember

01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.460
what you're talking about but like i didn't even

01:09:45.460 --> 01:09:47.659
clock that but like i remember when i saw that

01:09:47.659 --> 01:09:52.220
i was like okay this is a sponsored episode yeah

01:09:52.220 --> 01:09:56.479
yeah like big time yeah it was right before taylor

01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:59.720
went over to dakota's place okay that that is

01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.619
that is so funny i like i didn't even oh no i

01:10:02.619 --> 01:10:05.300
do have that like okay so i literally wrote I

01:10:05.300 --> 01:10:07.300
have a note here saying Jesse goes to Demi's

01:10:07.300 --> 01:10:09.020
house. I didn't pay attention to this scene.

01:10:09.100 --> 01:10:12.220
That's literally what I wrote. Okay. Got it.

01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:15.479
There was nothing else of importance that happened

01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:18.159
in it, but I just needed to know how ridiculous

01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:21.720
their like product placement commercial like

01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:26.899
was. It was so dumb. Yeah. I get that Jeff Bezos

01:10:26.899 --> 01:10:31.220
money, I guess, whatever it takes. Yeah. Demi

01:10:31.220 --> 01:10:35.279
and Layla are talking and Layla and Cam I guess

01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:38.920
had a fight so bad that Layla's flying solo at

01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:42.819
Friendsgiving which sucks because like I'm the

01:10:42.819 --> 01:10:47.000
single guy at every event like I so I feel for

01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:49.920
her what she's going through especially because

01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:52.000
like she's had this guy and it's like whatever

01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.319
and it's like well okay like I guess I'm not

01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:57.479
bringing him like I hate that like Looking back

01:10:57.479 --> 01:10:59.760
on their relationship, I mean, Cam was never

01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:01.920
the right guy for her. Layla's way too hot for

01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:09.260
him. 100%. Layla could have anyone she wanted.

01:11:09.619 --> 01:11:16.439
Also, looking back on it, Miranda's ex, Chase's

01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:18.340
brother, when they were dating, I guess they

01:11:18.340 --> 01:11:22.140
broke up. Chase's brother is hot. I hate that

01:11:22.140 --> 01:11:28.810
they broke up. so i guess uh layla had invited

01:11:28.810 --> 01:11:31.529
whitney and then she wasn't sure about inviting

01:11:31.529 --> 01:11:33.970
jen and like it's funny like looking back on

01:11:33.970 --> 01:11:36.270
this because like i remember hating whitney i

01:11:36.270 --> 01:11:38.789
don't remember why i hated whitney and then it's

01:11:38.789 --> 01:11:41.569
like i remember hating jen and i couldn't really

01:11:41.569 --> 01:11:43.770
remember why i hated jen either so it's funny

01:11:43.770 --> 01:11:45.449
what these shows do to you and then like i like

01:11:45.449 --> 01:11:49.970
had to jog my memory so like it was i mean jen

01:11:49.970 --> 01:11:51.550
was just a liar that's why i didn't like her

01:11:51.550 --> 01:11:53.210
like i still don't remember why i hated whitney

01:11:53.210 --> 01:11:58.590
but um yeah like so but they're talking and like

01:11:58.590 --> 01:12:00.430
i and i don't remember what made me write this

01:12:00.430 --> 01:12:04.369
down but like i uh oh no it's because demi said

01:12:04.369 --> 01:12:06.789
so demi said she feels like taylor is triggered

01:12:06.789 --> 01:12:09.649
by her success and i was like demi you need to

01:12:09.649 --> 01:12:11.270
shut your mouth like because i know i've always

01:12:11.270 --> 01:12:18.170
hated demi yeah yes i did like demi demi whatever

01:12:18.170 --> 01:12:21.909
how in the very beginning the first season the

01:12:21.909 --> 01:12:24.449
first couple episodes i liked her and i liked

01:12:24.449 --> 01:12:29.640
how she called out like everyone and and then

01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.439
then i didn't like it was bad like i liked her

01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:36.600
and then instantly i was over it okay i i guess

01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:38.260
i can see that because like there does there

01:12:38.260 --> 01:12:40.460
does feel like if you don't know her there does

01:12:40.460 --> 01:12:42.800
feel like there's an honesty there but like yeah

01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:46.399
yeah um do you know who brett's ex -wife is by

01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:50.840
the way do you know who brett's ex -wife yes

01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:55.920
angie harrington harrington yes yeah oh yes yes

01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:58.260
yeah I was like I would love to know more about

01:12:58.260 --> 01:13:02.279
that which surprises me because it's like I yeah

01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:05.939
I obviously know he's older but like Angie Harrington

01:13:05.939 --> 01:13:08.359
just seems like in a fully different generation

01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:11.119
than to me you know what I mean so like it doesn't

01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:13.439
even seem like only like 40 something she's not

01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:17.189
that old oh is she I don't know it just like

01:13:17.189 --> 01:13:19.390
they seem like two different worlds for some

01:13:19.390 --> 01:13:21.569
reason and I guess it's just because housewives

01:13:21.569 --> 01:13:24.590
to me is like in this kind of like generation

01:13:24.590 --> 01:13:28.010
whereas sure the secret lives women like are

01:13:28.010 --> 01:13:30.329
so young I mean a lot of them are still like

01:13:30.329 --> 01:13:32.609
in their 20s I think Demi's a little it triggers

01:13:32.609 --> 01:13:34.689
me every time they put their age up on the screen

01:13:34.689 --> 01:13:40.279
I'm like shut up stop when it's like 23 and they're

01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:43.420
like oh my life could be over and i'm like your

01:13:43.420 --> 01:13:45.720
life hasn't even started what are you talking

01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:49.640
about you already have 17 kids shut up yeah yes

01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:57.689
um so crazy but um i guess part of the the charm

01:13:57.689 --> 01:13:59.329
of them being young is that they've never gone

01:13:59.329 --> 01:14:01.789
through a car wash because michaela and macy

01:14:01.789 --> 01:14:03.789
go through a car wash and michaela's scared of

01:14:03.789 --> 01:14:06.329
the car wash and like i didn't i remember not

01:14:06.329 --> 01:14:09.409
really liking michaela yet at this point so i

01:14:09.409 --> 01:14:14.489
was like mad i was like everything is a put on

01:14:14.489 --> 01:14:16.789
show and like now that i like michaela i can

01:14:16.789 --> 01:14:19.750
get over that but lord have mercy yeah and then

01:14:19.750 --> 01:14:22.970
we find out that michaela's gonna start baking

01:14:22.970 --> 01:14:25.909
sourdough just to beat whitney's sourdough and

01:14:26.810 --> 01:14:31.449
yeah and i like petty i like that part i could

01:14:31.449 --> 01:14:33.430
have gone with i like petty i don't i like i

01:14:33.430 --> 01:14:35.449
don't like this like weird competitive like i'm

01:14:35.449 --> 01:14:37.829
just like this felt put on for the show yeah

01:14:37.829 --> 01:14:41.750
yeah oh i'm sure it was yeah yeah but she just

01:14:41.750 --> 01:14:43.930
hates whitney so much i was just kind of like

01:14:43.930 --> 01:14:46.810
yeah do whatever you want but you know to get

01:14:46.810 --> 01:14:50.470
back at her i don't know fair why did why did

01:14:50.470 --> 01:14:53.489
michaela hate whitney so much like that i could

01:14:53.489 --> 01:14:58.479
not remember because they were good friends and

01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:02.300
then she didn't tell her she was leaving the

01:15:02.300 --> 01:15:06.579
group chat and just ghosted everyone including

01:15:06.579 --> 01:15:11.180
who was like her best friend remember then Whitney

01:15:11.180 --> 01:15:14.520
showed up to Michaela's birthday didn't even

01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:18.199
talk to Michaela and went and talked to Macy

01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:25.680
yes Macy yes yes i okay that that feels familiar

01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:28.180
you're right there this show like the time i

01:15:28.180 --> 01:15:30.560
i've talked to emma about this before we're like

01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:35.720
the timeline feels so compressed that like you

01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:38.020
know a lot has happened but like i could not

01:15:38.020 --> 01:15:39.899
place where anything has happened i i feel like

01:15:39.899 --> 01:15:41.520
i do remember exactly what you're talking about

01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:47.020
though um then demi and brett go to that baking

01:15:47.020 --> 01:15:50.479
store and i could have done without this scene

01:15:50.479 --> 01:15:52.939
until you get the hot mic moment like i did not

01:15:52.939 --> 01:15:55.939
need to see them getting dick candies that was

01:15:55.939 --> 01:15:59.159
weird that was i also hate when brett calls her

01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:04.420
demetria like i'm just like i don't yeah i don't

01:16:04.420 --> 01:16:07.060
know if i remember that wait is that like any

01:16:07.060 --> 01:16:09.800
real name i don't know if it's her real name

01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:12.119
but like anytime she does anything like scandalous

01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:16.770
he'll go demetria and i'm like uh oh yeah i didn't

01:16:16.770 --> 01:16:22.090
catch that um but then the cameras go down audio

01:16:22.090 --> 01:16:26.130
keeps rolling and brett is acting super guilty

01:16:26.130 --> 01:16:29.090
and he keeps doing the whole you know i'd never

01:16:29.090 --> 01:16:32.930
do that you know i'd never do that and like demi

01:16:32.930 --> 01:16:36.390
literally goes it makes you sound more guilty

01:16:36.390 --> 01:16:38.130
when you keep saying it stop talking about it

01:16:38.130 --> 01:16:43.029
like yeah like yeah that was a lot um i did like

01:16:43.029 --> 01:16:45.989
to see their like off -camera dynamics though

01:16:45.989 --> 01:16:49.489
like i love oh yeah to like actually see how

01:16:49.489 --> 01:16:51.350
she talks to him when a camera is not in her

01:16:51.350 --> 01:16:54.409
face and how he reacts i was like oh i like this

01:16:54.409 --> 01:16:57.989
i i did get that a little bit too where i was

01:16:57.989 --> 01:17:00.130
like oh you can tell that they like pre -plan

01:17:00.130 --> 01:17:02.409
what they're going to show to the cameras it's

01:17:02.409 --> 01:17:04.350
not like taylor at all like it's it's the polar

01:17:04.350 --> 01:17:09.029
opposite yep yeah um we go over to michaela's

01:17:09.029 --> 01:17:11.930
house and we see that she's hired someone to

01:17:11.930 --> 01:17:14.210
teach her how to make sourdough just to be like

01:17:14.210 --> 01:17:19.189
i don't need that um and then we go over and

01:17:19.189 --> 01:17:21.149
see whitney and connor baking and zach shows

01:17:21.149 --> 01:17:23.210
up because whitney's worried about jen and she's

01:17:23.210 --> 01:17:25.430
crying in the bed every day and apparently it's

01:17:25.430 --> 01:17:30.149
getting worse and this was hard because i feel

01:17:30.149 --> 01:17:33.090
like zach was doing the right thing by defending

01:17:33.090 --> 01:17:36.869
jen in this moment like because i was like you

01:17:36.869 --> 01:17:40.500
have to take your wife's side but like Jen was

01:17:40.500 --> 01:17:43.600
lying about everything that they were fighting

01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:45.560
about. Like from what I remember, like it just

01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:47.779
felt like she was just like making stuff up.

01:17:47.859 --> 01:17:53.579
And I was like, it's, it's, it's a, it's a rock

01:17:53.579 --> 01:17:55.739
and a hard place for Zach right now, I guess.

01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:58.439
Cause he's like, cause we get, I feel like we

01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:00.939
get this like later in the season where Zach

01:18:00.939 --> 01:18:02.760
literally looks at Jen when they're all like

01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:04.819
having a confrontation. He's like, I wish he

01:18:04.819 --> 01:18:06.800
would just be honest about like what we're talking

01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:11.340
about right now. Like. I don't know, but so I

01:18:11.340 --> 01:18:14.840
feel like in Jen's defense, I never got really

01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:18.220
upset with her because I felt like she was tiptoeing

01:18:18.220 --> 01:18:23.979
around Zach. Like she was lying just so he wouldn't

01:18:23.979 --> 01:18:28.659
get like upset with her about things. You know,

01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:33.750
I don't know. I don't feel like she ever. maybe

01:18:33.750 --> 01:18:36.050
exaggerating yeah I think I had I think we talked

01:18:36.050 --> 01:18:40.050
about that like yeah a lot of it was part yeah

01:18:40.050 --> 01:18:46.069
like I don't feel like kind of like relationship

01:18:46.069 --> 01:18:50.729
and yeah yeah like she was afraid and I'm trying

01:18:50.729 --> 01:18:55.430
to remember back I know I've always kind of had

01:18:55.430 --> 01:18:58.369
a soft spot for Jen like I never really thought

01:18:58.369 --> 01:19:02.689
of her as a liar and i think that's okay we had

01:19:02.689 --> 01:19:05.689
that perspective yeah that's fair and i will

01:19:05.689 --> 01:19:07.729
say like i started to develop that soft spot

01:19:07.729 --> 01:19:10.529
like after i saw her um it was the scene where

01:19:10.529 --> 01:19:12.850
whitney went over to jen's house i was like oh

01:19:12.850 --> 01:19:16.210
she's not eating like she she's in a bad bad

01:19:16.210 --> 01:19:18.489
bad place right now like i i did develop that

01:19:18.489 --> 01:19:22.510
for i'll give you that yeah yeah um and then

01:19:24.460 --> 01:19:26.619
so zach said he knows that there are skeletons

01:19:26.619 --> 01:19:29.920
in jesse and demi's closets and then jesse's

01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:31.819
going out or i'm sorry demi was going out of

01:19:31.819 --> 01:19:34.159
her way to get a cease and desist to stop jen

01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:36.920
from talking about about something and i like

01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:39.520
i remember the cease and desist coming up i don't

01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:41.239
remember what was it over the fruity pebbles

01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:46.000
thing i think it was actually from the season

01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:48.500
three stuff where they were at vanderpump villa

01:19:48.500 --> 01:19:51.520
um yeah i didn't want her talking about the things

01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:54.350
that happened yeah and i don't think it ever

01:19:54.350 --> 01:19:58.550
materialized i think that was one of jen's um

01:19:58.550 --> 01:20:05.149
like embellishing the yes that is yes that one

01:20:05.149 --> 01:20:09.430
i'll buy a hundred percent yeah well i never

01:20:09.430 --> 01:20:12.710
came i they could never like it could never materialized

01:20:12.710 --> 01:20:15.710
i'm not saying it wasn't threatened but like

01:20:15.710 --> 01:20:18.229
a cease and desist was never delivered or as

01:20:18.229 --> 01:20:22.880
we know no because she kept bringing it up right

01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:27.439
it was a threat yeah because demi would consistently

01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:31.720
say well show it show the show the you know the

01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:33.500
papers or whatever and there was you're right

01:20:33.500 --> 01:20:40.600
you're right you're right um god like that that

01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:42.539
that feels like a lifetime ago but that was literally

01:20:42.539 --> 01:20:46.239
like last year when this happened yeah uh um

01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:52.539
it is such a short timeline Yeah. Layla goes

01:20:52.539 --> 01:20:56.739
to Swig to meet Cam. And I love the Swig product

01:20:56.739 --> 01:20:59.000
placement because like it's it is also my happy

01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:04.680
place. And Cam isn't sure if Layla loves him

01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:07.640
because just because of the dynamic in their

01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:09.399
relationship and Layla opens up about people

01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:12.939
not sticking around in her life and like that

01:21:12.939 --> 01:21:15.979
kind of. paints a lot of like how her relationships

01:21:15.979 --> 01:21:19.340
go and like that i hate that for her like i want

01:21:19.340 --> 01:21:22.699
leila to have nothing but like no joy and happiness

01:21:22.699 --> 01:21:24.579
and love like because she deserves all of it

01:21:24.579 --> 01:21:28.600
and like i oh that sucks and then we go over

01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:31.079
to see dakota and some man playing basketball

01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:33.100
i disassociated for this entire scene i have

01:21:33.100 --> 01:21:36.079
no idea what they talked about yeah yeah that

01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:38.020
was that was i didn't take any notes on that

01:21:38.020 --> 01:21:42.359
scene i was like whatever um we get to friendsgiving

01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:47.149
and I loved, like, just, like, the decoration,

01:21:47.350 --> 01:21:49.989
like, the aesthetic of the entire event. Like,

01:21:49.989 --> 01:21:53.310
it looks incredible. Layla's sister shows up.

01:21:53.350 --> 01:21:57.510
She's gorgeous. Mikayla bakes, like, a bunch

01:21:57.510 --> 01:22:00.869
of stuff, and one of them's a pumpkin pie with

01:22:00.869 --> 01:22:05.949
Jesus' face on it. And the cinnamon rolls that

01:22:05.949 --> 01:22:10.739
look... Not hot cheese. um the cinnamon rolls

01:22:10.739 --> 01:22:13.220
looked incredible and I remember being annoyed

01:22:13.220 --> 01:22:15.199
because I was like I hate Michaela at this time

01:22:15.199 --> 01:22:17.020
but like I wanted to try those cinnamon rolls

01:22:17.020 --> 01:22:19.420
so like that was a weird place to be in those

01:22:19.420 --> 01:22:22.119
sourdough cinnamon rolls I know I would have

01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:26.859
chose that to be sampled not what did she I was

01:22:26.859 --> 01:22:29.899
annoyed that she chose this stupid pie with this

01:22:29.899 --> 01:22:32.020
Jesus face on it I was like why would you do

01:22:32.020 --> 01:22:34.899
that why would you choose that she chose the

01:22:34.899 --> 01:22:39.329
pie yeah she should have chose the cinnamon rolls

01:22:39.329 --> 01:22:45.369
yay jesus i guess i don't know um and then poor

01:22:45.369 --> 01:22:48.430
layla with her pumpkin pie was not being fully

01:22:48.430 --> 01:22:53.750
cooked and i was like oh yes oh god um yeah she

01:22:53.750 --> 01:22:55.829
should have bought something like taylor did

01:22:55.829 --> 01:22:58.090
right taylor bought something from the store

01:22:58.090 --> 01:23:00.970
i thought that was the funniest thing on god's

01:23:00.970 --> 01:23:04.359
green i was like god this is I love her so much.

01:23:04.420 --> 01:23:06.479
She stopped at the Trader Joe's on the way there,

01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:09.520
and I was like, you cannot stop being perfect

01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:16.920
in my mind. I love her so much. So then... I

01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:18.800
feel like I focused a lot on what people made.

01:23:18.899 --> 01:23:20.699
Like, Miranda's blueberry coffee cake looked

01:23:20.699 --> 01:23:23.739
really, really good. Macy made peanut butter

01:23:23.739 --> 01:23:26.420
bars with Joseph Smith standing on top of them.

01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:28.739
And I remember asking Emma about this. Like,

01:23:28.739 --> 01:23:31.619
do you think that they have, like, just stores

01:23:31.619 --> 01:23:34.960
with, like, Mormon paraphernalia, like, around

01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:39.079
Utah? Oh, probably. That's so funny. I bet, yeah.

01:23:39.460 --> 01:23:43.199
I 100%, yeah. Like, there's such, like, a specific

01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:46.739
character to put on, like, i think it's like

01:23:46.739 --> 01:23:48.600
it's like with the christian religion like i

01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:51.319
can't think of like or like with with islam like

01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:53.260
you're not putting muhammad like on your peanut

01:23:53.260 --> 01:23:57.680
butter bars like yeah i don't know right but

01:23:57.680 --> 01:24:02.460
i don't know uh and then demi made a better than

01:24:02.460 --> 01:24:05.140
what cake with dicks all over it and like i was

01:24:05.140 --> 01:24:07.859
so annoyed because i googled what was in this

01:24:07.859 --> 01:24:11.539
cake and i would have i would have eaten it like

01:24:11.539 --> 01:24:15.760
it was my last meal and I didn't miss Connor

01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:18.220
saying that the dick cake was a total turn on

01:24:18.220 --> 01:24:20.340
and the penises didn't bother him. And I was

01:24:20.340 --> 01:24:24.579
like, sure, girl. Didn't bother him at all. I

01:24:24.579 --> 01:24:33.960
bet they didn't. Nope. What were you going to

01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:38.909
say, sir? I nothing I just I Connor like grew

01:24:38.909 --> 01:24:42.630
on me I hated him the first season like yeah

01:24:42.630 --> 01:24:45.149
I still like have in the back of my head of like

01:24:45.149 --> 01:24:48.649
who he was and I'm like I I don't I always have

01:24:48.649 --> 01:24:50.529
a hard time believing someone actually changed

01:24:50.529 --> 01:24:52.470
but I think he definitely changed for the cameras

01:24:52.470 --> 01:24:55.789
and so like I like the character he is now and

01:24:55.789 --> 01:24:59.130
I always like his little speeches and I fell

01:24:59.130 --> 01:25:03.949
in love with like um you know like when he told

01:25:03.949 --> 01:25:06.289
his backstory and all of that stuff like i'm

01:25:06.289 --> 01:25:08.789
a sucker for somebody's sad backstory i agree

01:25:08.789 --> 01:25:11.369
like you're gonna get me every time with it so

01:25:11.369 --> 01:25:15.869
you know i agree no i i think with with connor

01:25:15.869 --> 01:25:18.770
i think the problem that i had with him is like

01:25:18.770 --> 01:25:20.750
i knew we weren't getting the real him and i

01:25:20.750 --> 01:25:23.850
think when he fixed everything that happened

01:25:23.850 --> 01:25:27.880
with uh with Whitney and like I think that he

01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:30.739
made right by her I wholeheartedly believe like

01:25:30.739 --> 01:25:32.800
what we're seeing is is the real Connor now like

01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:35.140
I'll give him that like he did grow on me I hope

01:25:35.140 --> 01:25:40.439
so yeah yeah yeah um Layla ended up bringing

01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:42.619
up the confession she got about Brett and like

01:25:42.619 --> 01:25:45.720
Brett looks so furious for a second I was like

01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:49.300
oh he's breaking character like he's like we're

01:25:49.300 --> 01:25:52.560
getting the real him and um Macy said she regretted

01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:56.479
sharing it with the girls because because of

01:25:56.479 --> 01:25:59.199
this and I was like no you don't like I like

01:25:59.199 --> 01:26:01.359
Macy but I was like don't pretend like you don't

01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:07.840
live for this come on yeah yeah um and then that

01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:10.500
like got brushed over fairly quickly I felt like

01:26:10.500 --> 01:26:13.180
but then Taylor starts to break down about the

01:26:13.180 --> 01:26:16.539
Dakota situation and say what you will about

01:26:16.539 --> 01:26:19.800
these men like and really the entire group I

01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:22.699
was so impressed by the way they really rallied

01:26:22.699 --> 01:26:25.479
around Taylor to support her and they really

01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:27.399
tried to build her up and lift her up and I thought

01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:29.119
that was just really cool to see because I was

01:26:29.119 --> 01:26:31.039
like you know they talk about like what mom talk

01:26:31.039 --> 01:26:33.279
is supposed to be and like what what the heart

01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:36.609
of it is and I was like, oh, this is what they're

01:26:36.609 --> 01:26:39.390
talking about. That's really cool to see. Yeah.

01:26:39.449 --> 01:26:44.289
Yeah. Yeah. I like that also. Yeah. Yeah. It

01:26:44.289 --> 01:26:46.609
was, it was a good ending and it was like perfect

01:26:46.609 --> 01:26:50.149
for the Friendsgiving like theme. I agree. I

01:26:50.149 --> 01:26:53.489
agree. It was, it was a perfect bow on that because

01:26:53.489 --> 01:26:56.670
like it was, I think getting there was like,

01:26:56.689 --> 01:26:59.029
like I could have done without like probably

01:26:59.029 --> 01:27:02.270
40 % of this episode, but I was like, I'll take

01:27:02.270 --> 01:27:08.550
it because of the end of it. um yeah but yeah

01:27:08.550 --> 01:27:12.569
so then uh season three episode nine the book

01:27:12.569 --> 01:27:14.770
of judgment what did you guys think about this

01:27:14.770 --> 01:27:19.689
episode i didn't like this one as much i didn't

01:27:19.689 --> 01:27:22.609
understand why it was so popular because i you

01:27:22.609 --> 01:27:25.109
know like i had just chosen things that imdb

01:27:25.109 --> 01:27:29.069
showed as like rated high and i was just like

01:27:29.069 --> 01:27:34.649
i don't know meh yeah i i felt like my favorite

01:27:34.649 --> 01:27:38.699
from season three I don't know what my favorite

01:27:38.699 --> 01:27:40.720
from season three was. Like I, cause I, I felt

01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:44.460
like season three, like was thrown together in

01:27:44.460 --> 01:27:47.020
a way that like, I think they were trying to

01:27:47.020 --> 01:27:51.439
get, get it like airing very quickly. Like I'm

01:27:51.439 --> 01:27:52.979
going to be really honest. Like I kind of like

01:27:52.979 --> 01:27:55.079
tune most of this episode out. I'm not going

01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:58.659
to lie to you. So you guys can talk about whatever

01:27:58.659 --> 01:28:00.199
you want with it. Cause like this one, I was

01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:04.380
like, well, this was. when yeah i kind of were

01:28:04.380 --> 01:28:06.939
like i made really quick notes on this one because

01:28:06.939 --> 01:28:10.539
i was just kind of like okay an et episode devolves

01:28:10.539 --> 01:28:13.560
into chaos next scene taylor tells her mom about

01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:17.680
dakota and the family member like where he had

01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:20.579
like a relationship with one of their best friends

01:28:20.579 --> 01:28:23.739
that they treated like a family leanne's hugging

01:28:23.739 --> 01:28:25.979
her purse in a corner like i was just like it

01:28:25.979 --> 01:28:29.199
was just kind of like weird little scenes all

01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:32.800
clipped together that like yeah Yeah. Leanne

01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:35.380
is one of our favorite characters. Like we always,

01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:39.800
yeah. Really? We just think she's hilarious.

01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:44.079
Not favorite as in we like her. Favorite as in

01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:46.899
we love to hate her. Like we think she's just

01:28:46.899 --> 01:28:49.239
hilarious of like how thirsty she is as a mom.

01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:53.319
And just like how terrible she treats Taylor.

01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:56.939
Like it's something. Yeah. The whole dynamic

01:28:56.939 --> 01:29:00.979
of Leanne is just insane to me. Like I love.

01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:06.779
the many faces of Leanne going from season one

01:29:06.779 --> 01:29:12.159
to now I'm like okay girl get it like and we

01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.279
sit here and we talk about this because I feel

01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:18.359
for Taylor or not Taylor Jessie so much like

01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:20.779
I think Jessie again all the girls are stunning

01:29:20.779 --> 01:29:24.260
yeah but what she's constantly doing to herself

01:29:24.260 --> 01:29:26.640
like you know and I know people are so hard on

01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:31.020
her about it but if I was a public figure I would

01:29:31.020 --> 01:29:33.779
be doing the same freaking crazy bullshit. I

01:29:33.779 --> 01:29:36.180
know I would. I would be picking myself apart.

01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:39.100
I'm on my third nose right now. I don't want

01:29:39.100 --> 01:29:41.439
to hear anything from anyone about plastic surgery.

01:29:41.880 --> 01:29:44.680
I support it. I want everyone to get whatever

01:29:44.680 --> 01:29:47.680
elective surgery they want. I don't care. That's

01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:51.939
how I am. I agree 100 % because I know if I had

01:29:51.939 --> 01:29:56.220
the money and again, you're constantly looking

01:29:56.220 --> 01:29:58.439
at yourself in the screen. I'd be like, oh, I

01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:01.510
can change that. I can do this. So, yeah, we're

01:30:01.510 --> 01:30:03.890
for it. With Jessie, I think it goes a little

01:30:03.890 --> 01:30:06.090
bit deeper, too, right? Because she works in

01:30:06.090 --> 01:30:08.109
the beauty industry. And, like, there's, like,

01:30:08.229 --> 01:30:10.409
you're looking in a mirror all day. And, like,

01:30:10.409 --> 01:30:13.229
there are, I mean, and it's, like, part of it,

01:30:13.289 --> 01:30:15.470
like, she's not part of the church anymore. But,

01:30:15.510 --> 01:30:18.430
like, the church will put deeply into you. Like,

01:30:18.449 --> 01:30:20.930
and it's not just the Mormon church. Like, a

01:30:20.930 --> 01:30:23.430
lot of churches are this way where it's, like,

01:30:23.430 --> 01:30:25.789
your only job as a woman is to be an attractive.

01:30:26.439 --> 01:30:28.680
good wife and like so like I think some of that

01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:33.220
stuff is very deeply ingrained and I I can understand

01:30:33.220 --> 01:30:37.220
why someone like Jessie who is gorgeous to begin

01:30:37.220 --> 01:30:40.239
with I don't think she needed I don't think she

01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:42.699
needed a syringe of Botox in her but like if

01:30:42.699 --> 01:30:45.239
she wants to go get it I understand why she feels

01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:49.039
like she not not not needs to but I understand

01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:52.720
why I understand where that comes from I guess

01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:58.329
yeah yeah yeah for sure i could not stand i don't

01:30:58.329 --> 01:31:00.149
know how i would react if i had to look at myself

01:31:00.149 --> 01:31:03.250
i who knows you know because i don't i gotta

01:31:03.250 --> 01:31:04.789
tell you like i don't have people commenting

01:31:04.789 --> 01:31:08.189
on my face so i can't even imagine what that

01:31:08.189 --> 01:31:11.609
would be like all the time yeah the way that

01:31:11.609 --> 01:31:14.489
people are so comfortable like just saying whatever

01:31:14.489 --> 01:31:16.829
they want online about about women especially

01:31:16.829 --> 01:31:19.109
because like guys don't get it as bad but like

01:31:19.109 --> 01:31:22.159
the way people are just like well like she needs

01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:24.340
to do this she needs to lose 10 pounds and i'm

01:31:24.340 --> 01:31:28.600
like how about you shut the hell up yeah it's

01:31:28.600 --> 01:31:32.399
disgusting i would yeah i would be a hot mess

01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:34.899
i would not be able to read the comments because

01:31:34.899 --> 01:31:39.239
i uh yeah i don't think i could handle that no

01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:44.279
that's awful and then i don't know why i'm saying

01:31:44.279 --> 01:31:46.479
and then i i wrote zero notes for this episode

01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:51.399
they just keep rehashing yeah they just keep

01:31:51.399 --> 01:31:53.619
rehashing the halloween party that happened in

01:31:53.619 --> 01:31:58.420
season one and um about the shove and they keep

01:31:58.420 --> 01:32:03.180
talking about that um well that's it i'm like

01:32:03.180 --> 01:32:08.739
let's move on that was because uh i miranda gets

01:32:08.739 --> 01:32:12.789
a fight with demi about it Because she's like,

01:32:12.829 --> 01:32:16.289
why are you calling it a shove? Like, let's chill

01:32:16.289 --> 01:32:18.930
out about what actually happened kind of thing.

01:32:19.069 --> 01:32:21.810
Yeah. Well, it wasn't like I remember Taylor

01:32:21.810 --> 01:32:26.510
do Jimmy Kimmel. I remember like that entire

01:32:26.510 --> 01:32:30.090
thing where like, I think Emma and I said this

01:32:30.090 --> 01:32:33.159
on the podcast too, where I was like. she knows

01:32:33.159 --> 01:32:35.060
exactly what she's doing running up the stairs

01:32:35.060 --> 01:32:37.380
saying he put his hands on me Brett like you

01:32:37.380 --> 01:32:39.880
were a monster and like I should have known in

01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:44.159
that moment who Demi was and like it's just like

01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:46.060
who are you trying to prove this like this whole

01:32:46.060 --> 01:32:47.880
shove thing like it happened yeah it happened

01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:50.600
like season one or season two like who are you

01:32:50.600 --> 01:32:57.539
who was this for oh yeah yeah yeah anyway I don't

01:32:57.539 --> 01:33:00.159
know and then she believes her own stuff like

01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:03.470
she believes it but i don't even feel like he

01:33:03.470 --> 01:33:07.010
shoved her like i felt like he like grabbed the

01:33:07.010 --> 01:33:09.529
side of her waist or something and was like where's

01:33:09.529 --> 01:33:11.189
your husband or whatever he said i don't even

01:33:11.189 --> 01:33:13.970
know what yeah where's your husband yeah yeah

01:33:13.970 --> 01:33:16.750
i think he just touched her yeah yeah as he walked

01:33:16.750 --> 01:33:19.829
past like hey where's your husband yeah no in

01:33:19.829 --> 01:33:21.869
my mind it was like he was walking through and

01:33:21.869 --> 01:33:24.470
she was there and he said okay i'm like put his

01:33:24.470 --> 01:33:28.640
hand on like her like wherever and that was the

01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:30.779
end of it in my mind and i'm like and granted

01:33:30.779 --> 01:33:33.020
i think we were supposed to see chase in a very

01:33:33.020 --> 01:33:35.020
different light than we do now because like i

01:33:35.020 --> 01:33:37.100
you can't tell me chase is not one of the greatest

01:33:37.100 --> 01:33:40.340
guys on god's green earth right now but like

01:33:40.340 --> 01:33:43.380
the way that they painted him to like have basically

01:33:43.380 --> 01:33:45.779
taken her out back and hit her i'm like my lord

01:33:45.779 --> 01:33:50.329
have mercy you're a chase fan yeah he was a lot

01:33:50.329 --> 01:33:57.649
i would climb him like a tree no no oh and i

01:33:57.649 --> 01:34:01.430
got so mad at me too i think he is so hot i love

01:34:01.430 --> 01:34:07.170
him i can't get enough i can't i can't why why

01:34:07.170 --> 01:34:11.390
just like i guess it's because like i'm such

01:34:11.390 --> 01:34:14.510
a big fan of like miranda and it's just like

01:34:14.510 --> 01:34:17.779
where did he even come from he he kept putting

01:34:17.779 --> 01:34:20.420
himself in situations because he wanted the fame

01:34:20.420 --> 01:34:24.220
and he wanted on the show and i guess because

01:34:24.220 --> 01:34:27.060
he wouldn't ever come out really and say what

01:34:27.060 --> 01:34:29.659
he did like he kept twisting it and taylor's

01:34:29.659 --> 01:34:33.119
like you know what you did so he was never really

01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:36.939
up front and honest about that i don't know i

01:34:36.939 --> 01:34:38.920
just feel like and then in the reunion when they

01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:41.989
had him I was like, why is Chase here? Oh, being

01:34:41.989 --> 01:34:45.090
a bartender for Dunkin' Donuts. Yes. To be fair,

01:34:45.130 --> 01:34:46.869
that was weird. I'm just not. I think I like

01:34:46.869 --> 01:34:49.510
him because of who I've seen on social media.

01:34:49.909 --> 01:34:54.510
Because I will buy that the swinging thing was

01:34:54.510 --> 01:34:56.829
very hard for all of them to get past. I'll give

01:34:56.829 --> 01:35:00.449
every one of them that. I will give them all

01:35:00.449 --> 01:35:03.149
the grace about it being very, very messy and

01:35:03.149 --> 01:35:05.729
like no one really knew how to handle that situation.

01:35:06.010 --> 01:35:09.569
Whatever. I think that like looking at Chase,

01:35:10.189 --> 01:35:14.270
who he is publicly now like in like in 2026 who

01:35:14.270 --> 01:35:17.930
he's been very very honest about like i i love

01:35:17.930 --> 01:35:20.090
my gay friends i love my trans friends like i'm

01:35:20.090 --> 01:35:22.590
here for anyone who's marginalized like and i

01:35:22.590 --> 01:35:24.470
did i'll be honest i didn't expect that of him

01:35:24.470 --> 01:35:29.609
and um and i see his relationship or like yeah

01:35:29.609 --> 01:35:33.750
he and miranda got divorced i think he is trying

01:35:33.750 --> 01:35:38.359
to do right by Miranda and his kids today. And

01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:41.539
I think that's really cool to see. Yeah. I do

01:35:41.539 --> 01:35:44.500
love their videos and them being together as

01:35:44.500 --> 01:35:47.960
a family. Like I do love that for them. But then

01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:52.399
when he posts those like TikToks of like him

01:35:52.399 --> 01:35:54.579
putting his arm around Miranda and then she's

01:35:54.579 --> 01:35:57.489
just like, look, I'm just like. how many of these

01:35:57.489 --> 01:36:00.590
videos do we have to see like it is a little

01:36:00.590 --> 01:36:03.289
kitschy you're right yeah it's it's a it's it

01:36:03.289 --> 01:36:05.869
feels like they found a theme that got like a

01:36:05.869 --> 01:36:08.250
thousand likes and they leaned heavily into it

01:36:08.250 --> 01:36:12.029
yeah yeah marie what were you gonna say a second

01:36:12.029 --> 01:36:13.850
ago i'm sorry no i was just gonna say i wouldn't

01:36:13.850 --> 01:36:17.810
even i wouldn't even know that stuff about him

01:36:17.810 --> 01:36:20.069
because he annoyed me so much that like literally

01:36:20.069 --> 01:36:22.390
if he shows up i'm just like swipe swipe yeah

01:36:22.390 --> 01:36:24.579
like i don't even like I don't even like watch

01:36:24.579 --> 01:36:28.680
anything he would say. So I would know nothing

01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:32.260
about his current like viewpoints or how he,

01:36:32.359 --> 01:36:35.239
you know, like I wouldn't even consume his like

01:36:35.239 --> 01:36:38.180
material to know. So that's interesting because

01:36:38.180 --> 01:36:41.460
I wouldn't have known that otherwise. It's funny

01:36:41.460 --> 01:36:43.880
that you mentioned that because like, I think

01:36:43.880 --> 01:36:47.899
the reason I did consume his viewpoints is exactly

01:36:47.899 --> 01:36:51.399
why I. it's it's exactly what i said about him

01:36:51.399 --> 01:36:54.520
when when we first met him on the show uh like

01:36:54.520 --> 01:36:56.840
it was like oh he looks like a douchebag he looks

01:36:56.840 --> 01:36:58.600
like he would treat me bad and i'm wildly into

01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:00.479
that so i'll listen to anything he says and even

01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:02.600
if i do hate him we'll see where it goes it's

01:37:02.600 --> 01:37:10.939
okay i love it i love it so stupid like oh lord

01:37:14.380 --> 01:37:17.479
We end this episode with Leanne and Taylor calling

01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:21.119
the family friend and the family friend doesn't

01:37:21.119 --> 01:37:23.939
remember a damn thing. And they call her Dory,

01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:26.380
which I thought was funny. I know. I love that.

01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:35.899
Yeah. The way that like. Couple things. The way

01:37:35.899 --> 01:37:39.119
that like. she couldn't stick to a story right

01:37:39.119 --> 01:37:41.260
like where it was like well i sent him like a

01:37:41.260 --> 01:37:43.600
like a swimsuit pic i didn't think that was weird

01:37:43.600 --> 01:37:45.600
and then taylor's because taylor is someone you

01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:47.340
can't pull that with taylor's like i thought

01:37:47.340 --> 01:37:49.939
you said this like taylor remembers yeah and

01:37:49.939 --> 01:37:54.779
i was like gunned to my head you could not get

01:37:54.779 --> 01:37:56.859
me to admit what that woman admitted on the phone

01:37:56.859 --> 01:38:00.619
like i i don't you were dim now like i don't

01:38:00.619 --> 01:38:06.619
get it yep yeah she just kept saying more and

01:38:06.619 --> 01:38:09.619
more things and I was like yeah you could have

01:38:09.619 --> 01:38:11.739
just stuck with the story and it might not have

01:38:11.739 --> 01:38:13.880
even like made the show but the fact you keep

01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:18.260
admitting more and more I don't know I also like

01:38:18.260 --> 01:38:20.260
that's one of those things like because this

01:38:20.260 --> 01:38:23.760
at this point Taylor and Dakota were trying to

01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:26.340
work it out I think and I'm like if I were Dakota

01:38:26.340 --> 01:38:29.880
I would have because I because I think it all

01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:32.739
came out because he told Jordan right like Jordan

01:38:32.739 --> 01:38:35.279
and Jordan ended up telling Yeah. I would have

01:38:35.279 --> 01:38:37.960
taken it to my grave. Dakota is also someone

01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:45.359
that is dim. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But, like,

01:38:45.380 --> 01:38:50.159
also, I think it's funny that you guys love to

01:38:50.159 --> 01:38:54.619
hate. taylor's mom because like i can't anytime

01:38:54.619 --> 01:38:57.600
she comes on the screen i want nothing to do

01:38:57.600 --> 01:38:59.539
with her like when she came back for season two

01:38:59.539 --> 01:39:02.359
and she'd had work done and to look like taylor

01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:05.539
i was like i i see this for exactly what it is

01:39:05.539 --> 01:39:07.579
and you're jealous of your daughter and i don't

01:39:07.579 --> 01:39:11.539
like it it makes me uncomfortable yeah yeah yeah

01:39:11.539 --> 01:39:13.979
and that's why we like it because we like when

01:39:13.979 --> 01:39:15.939
she shows up to stuff we're like oh there's leanne

01:39:15.939 --> 01:39:17.979
like we always talk about her if she's there

01:39:17.979 --> 01:39:24.539
there's leanne just inserts herself into so many

01:39:24.539 --> 01:39:27.060
things that like if that was my mom I'd be like

01:39:27.060 --> 01:39:31.520
what the hell are you doing I the only thing

01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:33.739
she's inserted herself into where like I felt

01:39:33.739 --> 01:39:36.300
like any good came out of it was I she showed

01:39:36.300 --> 01:39:40.520
up to uh I think it's the next episode the Christmas

01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:42.520
party or some at some point in the season the

01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:45.960
Christmas party for yeah Christmas party and

01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:50.069
I was like i feel like this is the one time that

01:39:50.069 --> 01:39:52.689
i can see she is trying to defend her daughter

01:39:52.689 --> 01:39:55.090
because like she has never done that in the past

01:39:55.090 --> 01:40:02.090
right yep yeah but yeah but this it was i'll

01:40:02.090 --> 01:40:03.689
be honest it was fun to go back and re -watch

01:40:03.689 --> 01:40:07.649
these episodes because like i forgot like a just

01:40:07.649 --> 01:40:10.409
how messy secret lives of mormon wives is and

01:40:10.409 --> 01:40:15.100
be like I love to see the progression like because

01:40:15.100 --> 01:40:17.439
it's a positive and negative thing because like

01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:20.399
it's like oh you see like the real people come

01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:22.579
out but it's also like you see how much like

01:40:22.579 --> 01:40:26.939
some of the individuals are putting stuff on

01:40:26.939 --> 01:40:28.899
for the show so like I think it's just really

01:40:28.899 --> 01:40:31.420
interesting to see how all that shakes out yeah

01:40:31.420 --> 01:40:35.380
yeah but yeah for sure I'm excited I can't wait

01:40:35.380 --> 01:40:37.920
for the new one to come out i can't wait you

01:40:37.920 --> 01:40:39.619
guys are more than welcome to come on to talk

01:40:39.619 --> 01:40:41.380
about it with me and emma like for whatever you

01:40:41.380 --> 01:40:44.619
want i think that is going to be a an incredible

01:40:44.619 --> 01:40:48.600
season because i think what what secret lives

01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:52.399
does very well is like if there's drama they're

01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:54.180
gonna get it and i think you're getting the the

01:40:54.180 --> 01:40:56.439
real like for the most part the real honest like

01:40:56.439 --> 01:40:59.060
they're not putting on like things like you're

01:40:59.060 --> 01:41:00.579
getting in salt lake city or like where you're

01:41:00.579 --> 01:41:02.699
getting in orange county or beverly hills where

01:41:02.699 --> 01:41:04.319
you know they're not fighting about what they're

01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:06.960
actually fighting about I like this, though.

01:41:07.399 --> 01:41:13.220
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Cool. What closing thoughts

01:41:13.220 --> 01:41:20.279
do you guys have, if any? I don't know. uh that's

01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:23.180
you murray if i can't prepare for something nothing's

01:41:23.180 --> 01:41:26.220
gonna come to the top of my head no i had fun

01:41:26.220 --> 01:41:29.619
i mean i can't wait for the next season i can't

01:41:29.619 --> 01:41:31.960
wait for everything to come out yeah i really

01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:34.239
did i would love to meet emma i would like to

01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:36.180
do this again you know if you're up for it i

01:41:36.180 --> 01:41:38.000
had a good time hopefully i didn't talk i would

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love to no i think this is fine like i i like

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bringing other people on it's like i've we've

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done this with husbands watching house but housewives

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a few times and like i i love to get their perspective

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because like i think they're just as into the

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fandom as we are but like they they go hard for

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different people and i like hearing other people's

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perspectives i i i had a great time so thank

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you guys for coming on this is really really

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cool yes thanks for having us thank you thanks

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for having us of course tell the people where

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they can find you We are at Shaded Reality Pod

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on everything. And we have new episodes every

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Tuesday and Thursday. Love that. From Indy to

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the rural areas of the, you said it's the Amish

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people you live with, to Salt Lake City where

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the Mormon wives are. We love you and thank you

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for listening. Yeah, thank you for listening.

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Yes. Thank you.