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0:13 Cool. Awesome. Do you guys want to go first? I mean, I guess we could do the welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. I'm Scott. I'm Jeff. And we have some special guests with us today. We're also their guests. We're their guests. Yes, all of us. Who's who's guests? We don't know. I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is Bestie Approved. Yeah, it's all working out. This is like our second collaboration ever. So it's just, you know. Same. a lot of learning yeah like we we've been guests on one other podcast and like i didn't even know that was a collab like i think it was just us being guests i don't really i i never got the like the audio from that i have no idea what happened with that i don't even know if it got published if i'm being honest but we're just talking and it's what we're best at um What's the last song that everyone listened to? I don't know if I told you guys about this, but this is something cute that Emma and I do at the beginning of every episode. What's the last song both of you listened to? That requires me to know the names of the bands that I listen to. I'm pretty much at the will of Spotify playing things randomly at me. I'm like, oh, I like this song. Okay. Apparently, I listened to Scarlet by Holly Humberstone most recently. That's what I'm into. Jeff was probably listening to some disco fantasticness on the way home. Well, I was listening to a podcast on the way home. But before that, I think the last... What was the

1:47 last one? It was my leg song, which is like 500 or 600 songs. Just pick one, any one. Which one's your vibe right now? It's really like a mismatch. or a mashup of like i i don't listen to a lot of current stuff um so which is like a lot of either might be 70s or 80s or 90s or 2000s and so you're like an adult contemporary radio station pretty much like there's like beautiful a few people that i will listen to like a current people but it's really you know far and few between so it might have been some It was an old song. But what about you guys? Mine was also old. It was Fade Into by Mazzy Star. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. It's on my list. Mine is fairly old, like 2012 -ish. Better than that, the Dave Aude remix by Sub Radio. Yeah, I lost on that one. Very gay. Very gay. Do you guys just want to jump into the episode? I feel like it was a pretty big... episode unless there's anything on anyone else's minds before we jump in because i don't have given the current state of the world i don't feel like complaining about politics right now like i yeah no same same absolutely yeah getting into that episode is probably a better place to go i was gonna say something i just like read something before i like hopped out of the car but what did you read jimmy kimmel got a show canceled well did he get his show

3:19 canceled Well, he got pulled indefinitely. Indefinitely. Yeah, it just happened. Yeah. That's crazy. At the request of everyone's favorite. Yeah. Right. Because I can tell you the last time I watched Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, that's true, too. Same. But I do enjoy him as a host. I do, too. And I enjoy free speech. But we can go down a whole sad road about that. So, sorry. beautiful i had no idea that's crazy it just happened i think i just saw it like i was like after the stoplight you know once i got off looking at your phone that's fine that's cool i got off the road to emma while i was driving before it's yeah i watched him be in reverse and launch tiktok on his phone and it's like Godspeed, I guess. Godspeed. It's a real talent. Jesus, take the wheel. Actually, though. Cool. So, yeah, where did the show start?

4:29 Every week, Scott says that to me. Well, I don't remember shit. I really just don't remember a thing at all. I know we just watched that, but how the show started off, and usually where we end up by the end of the show, two totally different places. And so he'll say that. And I'm like, oh, where did it start? So that's kind of the cool thing that Salt Lake City has done in the last couple of years is they've pretty well contained it all inside of a capsule episode where they're not all over the place. It's not a ton of different scenes. But we start and end on a camping trip, basically. Angie Kay picks Mary up in a little RV for a little getaway. And I guess they tricked all the other women into... getting on this RV excursion with them. And I love that so much because I'm obsessed with the idea of an RV trip.

5:19 I've told them about this a million times. Like I want so badly to like drive across the country in an RV. I've always wanted to do that too. And I always thought like, oh, thanks a lot. You know, MTV and road rules and all that stuff. Like this gave me, I just always wanted to, but of course no challenges along the way. I don't need those. I would do like one or two challenges. Go ahead. I would hate to be. surprised by it though like i need to know totally if i'm gonna be in close quarters with nine other people before i launch into it there's no way um for that yeah mary is allegedly co -hosting this thing i feel like she honestly just said she would co -host so that angie would tell her where the fuck they were going oh probably well i'll do it and then she didn't And I love the way they present. Like, yeah, like I bought an RV three years ago because my husband told me to. And now I just had the great idea to like take the women on this RV trip. They had camping roll plaster all over the front of this RV. Like it was very clearly something done by production. And it's fine.

6:29 I can deal with the illusion of some of it. Her RV that they showed was not the RV they were in either. No, it wasn't. But. So they all show up. Everyone shows up at Beauty Lab and Laser, the holy place where Jen Shaw got arrested. They're all waiting out front. We find out that Angie, Whitney, and Bronwyn aren't getting along with Baby Gorgeous Lisa, which is, spoiler alert, why she's not on the bus. No, it's because she's working. She has work to be done. Obviously, she is with Blake Lively. Blake and Ben. Blake and Ben. sure and to be fair i did see pictures of them together on instagram but like okay like whatever whatever you need to tell yourself baby gorgeous um what else i couldn't tell i couldn't tell from your notes like where lisa barlow like ranks and like your your hierarchy of the salt lake housewives because you were you had a lot of notes that were like i love her i love her but also like i don't know if i can That's where I struggle so much. And Emma will tell you this.

7:42 I like the idea of Lisa Barlow. I imagine in real life, she's probably one of the most fun people to be around. I think she's probably incredibly generous. I think she's wonderful. I think she has a very, very hard time not being the alpha dog in some cases. And I think that's where you get a lot of the... that her screaming at Whitney, you're lying, you're lying. And like, I can't handle when someone needs to control a narrative. And I think that's how she's been presented on the show for better or worse. So I really, really want to like her. I really want to like all the women. I don't have a problem with anyone except for Brittany. I'm sure you could tell from my notes that I cannot stand Brittany, but everyone else I really, really like. And I want to like Lisa. Right. No, agreed. I think. I don't know.

8:36 Irritates the ever -living snot out of us, but she's one of the ones that's supposed to. I don't think you're supposed to worship everything that she does. And I think that we're like, I'd rather not. But she does a good job at doing what she needs to do. I don't know. I feel like if you look at a lot of people's pages on Instagram, particularly Queens of Bravo, you're supposed to worship Lisa and that she carries the show. So I was glad she wasn't on the episode, but I knew. They were going to talk about her, and I knew everyone was going to say, they can't go one episode without talking about Lisa. Lisa's carrying the show, even without being there. And I hate that narrative, because I think they all pull their weight, and they all have something to add in its ensemble show, and it's not just the Lisa show. Like, there's no Housewives, or there shouldn't be no Housewives, where it's just, like, insert person show. so i agree if anyone wasn't there they would have talked about her it didn't matter who it was yes yeah I agree.

9:33 And I think that's what I like about this show is like, I think they are all equally matched in this show. Like, I don't think there's one person that carries it. And there's like, you can make the argument about Mary in seasons, what, three and four, where she was like, not on the show. And then she was a friend of like, I'll buy that with Mary. But like, I also think she did not want to be part of the show. And she had more going on in her life because we see what happened in season five with her son. But like, I think everyone there really holds their own weight. Anyway. Brittany's back this year, and I hate that, but part of me does love that she saw this invitation, and she took it for face value, and she showed up in a bikini under her coat, and she said, I'm Brittany Spears.

10:28 Look at me. I loved that. Did she really? Yeah, I loved her little fit. I kind of, yeah, I enjoyed that. That was the one thing I was like, oh, okay, you're funny, Brittany. The thing is about Brittany, she's an actress. She is a Broadway girl, yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of this is like her acting and playing the part of a housewife. And I wonder, I'm like, are you really like this? Or are you just like... giving a performance okay so now that you're saying that out loud like that reframes my the entire way I think about her because like now I'm just like oh she this because the whole like the the her giving the toast and the her like I can't even say it last season about Jared Osman like that that whole song and dance now that you're saying that I'm like oh maybe there is something to that you can see the acting she's acting Because she's not that good at it. I mean, what? Bless her heart. Bless her little heart. So they all get on the RV. I was so obsessed with all of it, though. Like, I want to be on an RV so bad. And they do a little flashback. Emma, have you gotten to the point in season two yet where Jen Shaw got arrested? Yeah. Okay. So they do the shot for shot, like, reenactment of. the the SWAT team showing up and they're like and I I want to know who all knew about this in advance because

11:58 like I could tell Heather was acting but the whole oh the they show up and like and then you realize they're strippers like I was fine with it but like up until the moment that I realized they were strippers I was so mad I was like I don't want this I don't like take this back I don't want this on my house oh yeah we didn't immediately knew they were strippers did you really yeah The SWAT thing, it gave like FBI female body inspector. Okay, so maybe I'm just like too naive. I don't know. But like one of those strippers was a little thick and I was super into that. For like half a second, I thought like, wait a minute. Is this an actual like, are the police out there? Is there something like, is the RV in a no parking zone? I thought it'd be some. crap like that but yeah then I was like I thought they were just like showing up to like oh look it's like we're doing a funny little like bit like I thought that's what was happening but like the thick stripper really I was like I'll take it that's fine I do like Whitney though I think she's so funny I liked Whitney a lot this episode and that was like that was a good setup yeah that was a good prank it took me a minute with Whitney on this episode.

13:13 Cause I was like, I think I had a bad taste in my mouth from like the last couple of seasons on her healing journey. Like, I was just like, I don't like, I don't, I don't need it. But like, I, I was really surprised at how vulnerable she was able to be like with everything that's gone on with the business. And like, I, I was, I became a big fan of Whitney this, this episode. She's on her filling journey. So her business failed. On a filling journey. It was my favorite moment of the show around that fire pit. We'll get to it later. But when she says, I am not ready for a hug right now. That was my favorite moment of the whole show. I wrote that down at some point. That was very good. She said, I don't.

14:01 Like she stopped talking. She's like. It was the face she made for me. I was like. oh yes we're back to be sobbing your eyes out and be like get off of me um they get into lisa not being on the rv and and she says it's because she had a work thing but then we get a flashback to lisa on facetime flat out saying she doesn't want to spend the night with bronwyn i like how do you guys feel about bronwyn let me ask you this i like bronwyn a lot a lot to the show last season I like anyone who can I feel the other woman to a certain extent maybe not Angie maybe not Whitney will just like back off when like Lisa comes at them and the fact that Bronwyn I think it was when they were in Palm Springs and she was just like what was the line like you're doing your job like it you expect me to like ride your dick like it's my job like I was like yes yes give it to her like give me that head shake like All that was good for me. So the fact that Lisa is saying, I don't want to be there because Bronwyn's there. It's like, really? You've had bigger beefs with like Heather and Whitney. Like, why are you acting as if Bronwyn is like the most, is the worst thing ever? So I thought that was just dumb. Like, and it's also, it's, well, two things. One, it's your job. I know you have a real job, but this is

15:31 your job to go on this cast trip. So I don't know what you're thinking there. But then I also read, and this may not be true, but, you know, because it was on Reddit, that someone was saying that she was still in contract negotiations when they started filming. And so maybe that's why she wasn't on this episode. Did you see that? Oh, no, I didn't see that. I remember that being an issue when we heard they started filming is that she wasn't yet finalized. Yeah. I do remember that. Interesting. Was it, wait, Bronwyn wasn't finalized? No, she was trying to play hardball, I think. Or maybe she successfully did. Yeah. Interesting. Because otherwise I feel like she would be like, I hate, I may hate all these chicks, but I will at least show up because it's my job.

16:12 But if she's still trying to negotiate to come back on this season, then you're not going to appear. And there's going to keep rolling without you. Well, that's the interesting thing. And like Emma and I have talked about this. We talked about this with Secret Lives of Mormon Wives with Taylor not going on one of the cast trips. We're like. that's a different beast from the housewives because the housewives will just, like, cut you out. Like, they'll be like, okay, well, you didn't want it that bad, so friend up, I guess. No call, no show, girlfriend. Yeah, I think that's why, like, Heather was so pissed at Bronwyn for not inviting her on that Palm Springs trip last year because she was like, I would come, but if you're not inviting me, I can't come, therefore I'm not in the episode, therefore I'm not going to be paid for this episode, and you're really screwing me. That's true. Yeah.

16:59 uh but so they get into that a little bit and we get more into that a little bit later um because i think i wonder if part of it was also like she just like didn't like didn't want to deal with the lawsuit stuff because like i i don't think she wanted the same treatment for better or worse that jen shaw got because i'm i mean the way she granted it's a very very different situation but the The way that they just hung Jen Shaw out to dry with the lawsuit stuff, I don't think Lisa wanted to put herself in that situation where the woman could say anything similar to that about her. I think aside from Jen Shaw, Lisa always does this thing we were just talking about where she's so worried about her image and the PR of it all that she, while things are pending, maybe didn't want to have that conversation. I'll buy that 100%. That makes sense too. Yeah. But we also get into a fight between Whitney and Brittany. Yeah, Whitney and Brittany about fighting about Whitney's business.

18:07 And I don't like Brittany bringing this stuff up because I'm like, Brittany, you don't have a business. Shut up. I don't want to hear your mouth. I can't stand her. And then we cut to Angie K drinking tequila straight from the bottle. And I loved it so much. I love the de -evolution because she started pouring shots and then the girls start fighting and like then you see her just devolve into like straight I kept trying to see like if there were if the bottle kept going full empty full empty like during different cuts just to kind of see like how consistently they were or were not drinking but I didn't really catch anything yeah this cast drinks like this cast it's it's not like some of the women on beverly hills and it's not like i it's not like some of the women in potomac like this guy's drinks yeah yeah i love it um i was surprised that oh sorry i was please go ahead i was surprised by britney's like such her strong defense of lisa and they're like sisters now and like how dare you besmirch her name whitney i was like what where is this coming from britney was trying to get a permanent spot as a as a housewife and not a friend of that's what that was i can definitively tell yeah that's where she was i don't think they're actually friends let me tell you i do not i i the i think the only sisterly thing that

19:40 that Lisa Barlow has ever done to Brittany is looking at Brittany and saying, you do need keratosteumatic when she was told she had high body count hair. I do not think that they are that close outside of that. Do you think any of them are actually friends? I think Heather and Whitney are probably friends. And I think... Cousins! What'd you say? They're cousins. They are cousins. And I think that Angie and Mary are very genuine friends. I don't think any of the rest of them were that close. I think that they all knew each other peripherally. And I think that's what makes, I think that's what starts to make for a really good cast on Housewives is they know each other, but they are still figuring each other out, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. That makes sense.

20:33 But the women get to their campsite and I have a place like this, like a mile from my house. I know this place. I can smell this place. It's awful. It's miserable. There's absolutely a school bus outside of this place. It was rugged. Yeah. And then Mary just goes, I don't like it. And I love it. Like, okay, hostess. Did you feel for any moment once they pulled up that like they were just going to stop camping that at any moment they're like, just kidding. We're going somewhere else. I mean, forget the fact that we saw the trailers and we knew probably it didn't happen. But did you think or hope for a moment that maybe I may be a cabin or something?

21:18 Honestly, I really didn't think they were going to campfire dinner. Do you? arrangements too like how are they cramming them all in there are they doing it like traitor style where half of them are going off to a hotel once the cameras stop yeah true i don't believe they spent the night there i'll be real with you it was an hour away from home i believe they probably either like went to a myriad that night or like went like a double tree yeah yeah i think a courtyard suite at least give him a jw come on One of these other tropes I don't love, Brittany brought camcorders for the girls. Why? I think it was Carol did this in New York when they all went to Turks and Caicos. I don't need that. You're surrounded by cameras. It's okay, babe. We're watching you on TV. It's okay. I mean, she was clearly trying to take the narrative back. She tried miserably, like, I'm the one who's known as recording people, and it's like... Well, why did you bring that up? Yeah, we know. Yeah. That's why we hate you.

22:29 Why would you bring up your own dirt like that? It did give us a good flashback to Meredith going, you, you need to go. You're despicable. Like, I love Meredith when she's activated. Oh, God, it's good. That angle was like, you need to go. You need to go. I've had enough of you, beast. I love when they talked about that later. And Meredith goes, we talked on the phone twice. We went to dinner one time. We are not friends. So then we get back into Lisa not being on the trip. And then we get a confessional from Heather.

23:14 And then the women start to get into some of the accusations and lawsuits. And they're 100 % going to make Lisa Barlow the villain this season. Yeah, absolutely. i didn't know anything about these lawsuits actually like i don't follow her as regularly as i only do because i listened to the bravo docket about one time so they really filled me in on it okay i haven't heard that episode of the bravo docket i do need to go back and listen to that because like i did write down at some point like this calls for a less research mama because i love nothing more than to, like, go line by line over a lawsuit. Like, I'm applying to law school. I'm so excited about that. Like, this is, like, I'm obsessed with this stuff.

23:59 But I remember something about, like, they were suing the tequila brand. Because they have, like, two or three different offshoots of Vita Tequila, and it's, like, one of them is, like, Jack Henry Spirits or something. I know they were in some kind of litigation. I don't remember what for, but, like... I think it all has to do with like loans and things that John took out on behalf of the company and vice versa. And it just, it's really technical. If I recall, these are the same ones. Okay. Do you, do you think that their entire life is like, and I, I hesitate to ask this like in this way, but like, do you think that most of their life is like on loans? Cause like owning a, owning a liquor company does, unless it's like skinny girl, you are not making that much money. Yeah, I'm pretty sure most everyone on the show is on varying degrees of loans, but that's, you know, how some people do it. They're just, they learn to juggle all that back and forth. I think you're right. I think they are living on loans because this isn't, you know, Jose Cuervo. Well, I mean, you know, like, yeah.

25:08 to be fair i mean she does have the marketing company so like i'm not saying that they're like destitute in their entire life as bankroll by credit cards like i i don't want it to go off that way but like i they the way it is shown on the show they have money like and so i'm like where i i don't know like i i hope i hope it's not like the entire the wheels falling off of the entire operation I don't see that being the case. I think she's screaming about her money all the time, too, which is annoying. Like, it's a whole, like, wealth whispers, you know, situation. Money talks, wealth whispers, yeah. Yeah. No, sorry. Sorry. Oh, go ahead. No, I was just going to say, it's the businesses that are being sued.

25:54 It's not her. Fair, okay. She probably has her Bravo money. whatever money in her name and she they might have been bankrolling the businesses a little too tight you know that might be all maybe yeah yeah maybe her Wendy's money and she did have a brand deal with Kerastase Thermatique too yes and her hair is great I will let's if I have to say three nice things about Lisa Barlow it would be her hair is great She's a great mom. She's a great mom. And she's really pretty. Yes.

26:35 She's a hard fighter. Very symmetrical face. Scott, you put into the notes, can this please be a Lisa Barlow take down season? I mean, it's going to be, but I do worry that it's somehow going to like flip it around later and Lisa's just somehow become the victim of it all. So I do want it to be just a full on take down season. I think though, because we're seeing this with OC, you... it's really a mistake to like for everyone to pile on one person because the audience is going to just shift in that direction so if they were smart when this is playing out they would you know just like just here and there fighting not like i don't need the entire cast to be against her which they won't like i think you know the entire cast isn't against her because if you will remember heather defends lisa a little too hard for now it reminded me of how she defended jen shaw within an inch of her life i agree and then the second that and this is i love heather like i gun to my head heather is one of my top five favorite housewives across all the cities this is the one thing i don't love about heather is like i i was listening to i think it was and they were talking about how Heather so desperately wanted to be best friends with Lisa in the first couple of seasons. And Lisa was so just mean to Heather and Whitney, like mean, mean. And they, I think now she's like got the chance and

28:08 she's like, I'm not messing this up. Like I'm going to be friends with Lisa. And like, so I don't know. I think you're right. I bet that does make sense. I still don't understand why they all need desperately to be friends with. each other at all like well specifically lisa but even before like with jen everyone needed to be friends with jen shaw like oh i have to be her friend so what's so amazing about lisa barlow you know my theory and like i'll buy this about lisa too because like in the first couple of reunions lisa does talk about and she talks about it on monica garcia's reunion too where she's the reason that they brought the show to utah like she had friends in production and casting and like she's like come here and the the theory and Emma and I have talked about this the theory that I have about Jen Shaw is that she was presented as the person this show is being built around and like if you if you know she's she's in a lot of situations she had no business being in she's in a lot of scenes like I mean she's in basically all of the scenes in the first season and the entire thing is built around her so I'll buy that like they like because you know they do this with every every housewife city where like it's it's not housewives to begin with and then it becomes housewives i'll buy that it was like a thing about businesswomen and jen shaw was like the main businesswoman and they were like oh no this is housewives right right so i'm karen huger of utah yes yeah where it's yeah karen huger was the grand dame of what it was

29:39 supposed to be like etiquette or something like that yeah so like i'll buy that We're in the same situation. But... What else? Oh, and then, like, Angie... I didn't like this. Let me just say, I like Angie Kay. As controversial as that is, I like Angie Kay. That's not controversial, I don't think. Yeah, how is that controversial? She's fantastic. Some people are so annoyed by her. Really? I mean, she is a pillar of the community. But other than that, I mean, what'd she do wrong? She has a very long face. you know she's like four foot nothing we saw her in real life and i can yeah i don't know yeah she seemed short yeah yeah um but she did compare lisa's lawsuit stuff with the jinshaw situation and i did not no i should she should have gone there i don't understand like why even bring up jinshaw's name like i was like how like why are you even like bringing up jinshaw like these are two separate incidents two separate people like incidences that's not important yeah we could find out who actually punched her and gave her the black eye the story unravels just like like someone said in their confessional they were like the state of utah and the united states of america are not concerned with lisa barlow like don't even start Meredith, the attorney, did say that. But

31:11 what I will say, the fact that they keep bringing up Jen and the fact that they're leaving this all in, they're 100 % bringing her back when she's released from prison. 100%. And I pray to God they do. I would disagree with that only because I don't think anyone's willing to film with her. I don't think the network necessarily likes her. And I think you kind of can't get past, um, uh, elder fraud. Yes. Yeah. Like with Teresa, like she just screwed herself, but like Jen Shaw was like taking money from like poor elderly people who didn't know any better. Karen Huger had her fourth DUI though. And they picked, Bravo picked cameras back up to go film her being released from prison. I think Karen's a more sympathetic figure than Jen Shaw. i agree i think a lot of viewers hate her too like hate her and also karen had like what seven seasons in her before she went to jail that's fair correct theresa too yeah maybe Maybe I'm just holding on to like and Emma will tell you this about me. Like I hold on to like the image of people that I think they were and like that I that I loved about them. Maybe maybe Jen Shaw is just like just not coming back. And maybe that's fair. Well, we're notoriously wrong for predicting things

32:42 horribly. So, you know, don't let that prediction stand. I would love to see her because I think it would be messy and it would be great television. Do I think it's morally correct? No. fair what i what i do desperately want do you remember the episode of mob wives where they were like all getting together at the round table and i think it was drita comes in and goes karen stand up and like just starts running after her to beat her up that's what i want from jen shaw and heather where like jen shaw comes in and she's like so who gave you the black eye heather would run so fast there's people like friend friend of but the four million dollar necklace comes up and i was under the impression and like maybe i'm an idiot maybe i'm naive i thought bronwyn owned that necklace it comes up that she lied about it and what what her her the way she presents it she didn't mean to lie like uh it's fine um she didn't mean to lie but the way it came off was that she was lying and i was like okay at least she's owning it because like she i mean she does say like i was gonna buy another necklace i didn't think the women would notice like this that and the other and like i i appreciated that because it felt like she came clean about i think with sorry i think without saying it she said i was doing i made a rookie mistake i did housewives wrong in that respect my first season and i was trying to like present

34:14 something that wasn't true and you know compromised her integrity like the fact that she said that i was like oh my gosh someone actually say that say i lied it was wrong i went against like who i am just to impress these women and then without saying it but just to impress the audience and like you know do housewives and be like this rich chick and you know i love that she owned it and you know like just for anyone to admit they lied is really rare on housewives so i think between her and whitney i was like whoa i think i'm returning to you and be like the honesty on this episode yeah astounding of bronwyn because i am at like the end of season two right now so i haven't watched three four or five and i yeah so she's new to me and i was like oh look at this woman owning her shit calling herself immature admitting that she did something for the cameras okay So in general, you watch this episode just for us? Yes. Oh, wow. Thank you so much. I hope we didn't have major spoilers for this one episode. No. And pretty much it's all been spoiled for me anyway, because I'm on Twitter too much. Jeff had to get off Twitter for the longest time. He's like, why do I keep going on here? I can't answer my Twitter in public, so. Shame. probably similar reasons um yeah yeah

35:45 uh but yeah like i i guess i don't get as much housewives twitter anymore which is good because it was just too toxic so i stick to other stuff which is makes me more happy right there reddit is where i get my housewife stuff well that's that like even then i'm like i need to like avoid this because it's just not doing me any good i have my opinions others have their other opinions i don't need to hear that i'm just gonna get fired up you know So, yeah. Yeah. We get Brittany doing her classic ting, ting, ting. This is the reason I hate her. I'll tell you right now. This is why I hate her. And she goes, well, Jared and I got engaged. I don't know if I told you about this, but Jared Osmond is Donnie and Marie Osmond's nephew. And apparently in Salt Lake City. being one of the osmonds is a massive massive massive deal like god bless he was so excited to be connected to the osmonds and they got engaged and then broke up two weeks later and they're still dating it's so tiresome it is beyond tiresome and again that's why it has to be her shtick like she has to be putting this on because there's no way there's no way anyone's actually like that right I hope not. I think she's hopelessly devoted to Jared. Yeah, I think that's real.

37:15 I guess one of the few real things about Brittany is that she is obsessed with this man. And it's a really toxic relationship. She's not getting out. She's living her own lifetime movie. That has to be the fattest fucking dick then. I don't know why. I mean, I don't know. Something makes me think otherwise. I just don't see it. I never really thought about Osman dick, but I have to say. I thought it was like a financial thing. Cause again, new to Brittany hated her in this episode, but from what I've gathered, she doesn't really have anything going for her. So I thought it was like a, I need someone who has income to be living with me type of thing. Maybe. I don't, I don't know. I love these fresh takes.

38:04 Like I assumed Brittany had. well like britney was in a similar situation to heather after her divorce where she was just taken care of because i mean like we get a scene in season five where we go to her house and she's in a nice nice nice house so like i just assumed that it was all from her ex so maybe it is from jared i don't know but like we i assume jared's probably taking care of like five other girls too because we find out that he's running around the lifetime cafe with other women and i also love that the same gym i do I also loved Whitney for being like, um, that's weird because... Yes. And she was so comfortable doing it too. She was like, um, Diva, he's in the Lifetime Cafe all the time and he's not on the machines. He's not. He's not. I love it. I was shocked she said it like as if she was saying something so casual, like where she went to lunch yesterday. She was like, oh. Your ex -fiancé introduces me to his date.

39:12 I was like, what? I think that's how much we really don't think that Brittany's serious. That they're just like, whatever. Like every other woman, they will like kind of be discreet at times with each other. But with Brittany, nonstop. They're just like, whatever, you crazy person. That's insane. I also love that, Scott, you called out in the notes, you're jealous of the publicity and the fact that they still sell chicken salad. Lifetime's chicken salad is so good, actually. It is incredible. So I bet that it is. So one of the companies that I work for, we own luxury health clubs. And so we're always talking about Lifetime. We're like, oh, Lifetime this, Lifetime that. Like, oh, is it like Lifetime? And we recently kind of... pared back our cafe so we no longer make things like chicken salads and so when they started going on about it i was like well that's what's to make lifetime more successful that chicken salad incredible it's got like a little lemony to it it's very good oh see i miss i miss when there is quality food at the gym there i'll give you that we get to the obligatory we're gonna do an activity scene Whitney, Heather, and Bronwyn go kayaking, and then Mary, Angie, Kay, Meredith, and Brittany go fly fishing. Whitney forces Bronwyn and Heather into the same kayak, and I like Whitney because she's not afraid to get messy. I like it. But at the same time, I

40:42 also feel like Bronwyn and Heather could be very, very good friends. I think they are equally matched when it comes to intelligence, and I think they are both so well -spoken, and I think they have very deep personal trauma and stories that they can share like to benefit like the world and i like them better together than i like them fighting i'll be honest agreed i think i think last year we were saying that like heather might have been not threatened but like i think caught off guard by the fact that bronwyn is similar to her and is very intelligent and know is very good because heather's really good in a verbal back and forth and broadway gave it back to her so i think she was like oh wait that's my role what are you doing and so i think that okay off of her um but yeah like me out of like you know the religious trauma and you know similar experiences and you know being smart and witty yeah they should be a great duo and i i know it was uncomfortable when they fort like when uh i think when heather went over to bronwyn's house and they just had that very awkward awkward encounter and then being disinvited from the trip and it was just yeah i didn't like that so i like that they were forced to hang out and be in that kayak and i'll give bronwyn the like because i do buy that like heather likes to be in charge I don't love the

42:14 way she presented it where she's like, oh, it turns out all you have to do is take a back seat and, like, do whatever. I didn't love that, but, like, I do think it was fair. Yes. I do think Heather has a control thing, but also I think she has confidence issues to the point where maybe she's concerned that she'll literally be booted from the show. That's... Okay, that's fair. And this is me. I mean, obviously there's a lot of context I'm missing, but from watching what I've watched of her early on and now watching this, that's just kind of the vibe I get. I love Heather so much. And I feel like the person who doesn't understand how much Heather has to offer is Heather. Yes. Yes. Yes. We've always been that. So I read Heather's book. I did too. You read both of them? No, I've only read the first one. I read both of them. I forgot about the second one, but she really talks about like, yeah, she is very much a, you know, I want to be liked. I want to be, you know, chosen and, you know, it comes from her, you know, family and being in the church and all that. So yeah, you're right. Like he doesn't know how great she is. And I think she got a lot of, she got a lot of attention and she was really kind of the breakout star and she's really. since season one become like the narrator of the show and i think she took it a little bit too far and then she people like flipped on her the audience and she wasn't as likeable in certain seasons three and four so i think she's bounced back

43:46 a bit um in five and now in six so far it's only one episode so i like where she's going because i did not like heather after the whole monica stuff i was like nope nope i was fine with the monica thing i had a hard time in season three with her where it was i'm ride or die virgin shaw i'm not talking about this black eye i'm not like i i struggled a lot with that because i was like you were so much better than this like like pull it together yeah and changing the story so many times and like getting like potentially getting someone in on production in trouble by like blaming it like it was just like it was bad it was bad I can totally see that. I just got the vibe. Do you remember when we were at our nine to five, how I just constantly every day felt like I was going to get fired no matter how good a job I was doing? The imposter syndrome thing, yes. That's kind of what I get from her. I can see some of that, yeah. 100%, yeah. Now that you say that out loud, 100%, yes.

44:50 It's the same thing. And she was a big Housewives fan, so beyond Housewives, I think she's kind of like... whoa what am i doing here like i love it here but like what am i doing okay you know that's fair yes um meredith so we we get the the scene and then we get to meredith and she looks so incredible in her little fishing outfit with like the the like little toboggan hat and everything i said oh yeah i saw your note there and i was like wow and i we rewound it because i was like let me have a look at this so we paused it for like a minute and then i was like It's just a ski outfit. I think, listen to me very carefully. I think Meredith, like, could wear, like, a flannel shirt and jeans and look, like, there's just something about Meredith where, like, she is, like, she is a canvas that an artist paints on. I think she looks incredible no matter what. I'm upset. I worship the ground. She has had some fairly basic confessional looks. Even in this episode, one of them was very plain and she still rocks it. That color on her and her confessional was so good. Are you kidding? It reminded me a lot of one of Lisa Barlow's very, very early confessional looks. And I was like, oh, you're doing this right. Yeah. This is what it's supposed to look like. Yes. Yeah. dying cracking up talking about how long until we catch a fish no just give me an estimate to the point where the guy was like there's a reason we call

46:21 it fishing and not catching and she was like okay but like but like how long so you had that and then you had mary going well you could just bring the fish back to life with cpr right like Mary. What was that? I think she was talking about catch and release, but she didn't know like how it worked. I don't know. I don't know. The only thing I could assume either is that she was like, oh, you can just throw it back in. It's like, well, not if you've already killed it. Yeah. Yeah. Like it was like she thought the fish already died if you had it on a hook and you had to like resuscitate it to throw it back. And then the fact that she's like, well, he's just wrong. she does that with a few things it was like it's this and then it was like what was the like if you drink carbonated water it hurts your ovaries like there are just certain things that mary mary is the lord and she believes look look it up that is true don't you dare google it professional and be like they are so wrong can you believe they said that can you believe these fishermen were trying to tell me about fish You don't know Gusty. You don't know. Gusty.

47:37 I love her so much. I also couldn't figure out his name and just gave up. I loved that. Gusty could probably tell you about that. After he said Dusty 16 times. At least you didn't call him Bussy. Not Bussy. um the women all end up going out for a campfire and we find out that angie k was the worst food planner on god's green earth and mary doesn't eat campfire food apparently because like she doesn't like steward things and there were no hot dog buns or ketchup or anything and it was like every question they asked angie k her eyes just got bigger and bigger and bigger and she was like oh You'd think Camping World or Camper's World would have loaded that thing up with food for them. You would think.

48:31 You would think production would have gone to, like, Meijer or, like, I don't know. I don't know what their stores are out there. But, like, you would think that they went to Kroger with them and say, hey, like, Angie, maybe pick up some hot dog buns or something. They're like, no, let's let this play out. Yeah, let's actually make Angie go to the grocery store. Like, what do they even need? sliced bread for? That's my question. Where did the bagels come into play? It's all so confusing. Maybe the bagels were like for the morning and Mary's like, I would have eaten the bagel. I love bread. So I would have been like, I'll have a snack and bagel. These women don't eat bread. mary did that's fair but they were also eating the hot dogs like right off of the metal thing because they didn't have any buns did they not have ketchup like i was so no they didn't have ketchup and you said that she said oops just eat your hot dog and be happy she said you're all so entitled to food yeah Scott, you put a note in here about Heather and the campfire lore. I googled this by sorts and was a real person. Yeah, but still, I just don't need Heather Gay doing another like, did you know this Mormonism folklore tale? And it just, of course, if anyone was going to do it, it was going to be Heather Gay. Just being like, just so performative and just so like Mormon trivia. I'm like, okay. I love that Abram was

50:02 like, yep, I know. And I'm like, see, you guys are so aligned. I would have loved a ghost story that didn't have to be Mormon. You know what I mean? Like have a little campfire story. That's not religious. I don't know. I would argue. Oh, it just, yeah. That's gross story about shaming women. Yeah. It's like, if you like are like out there and kissing boys or whatever, she's going to come and take you away. What about the men? What about the men who were, like, kissing you? I will tell you, that is, I didn't see it through that lens, but, like, my religious trauma probably doesn't allow me to, so. Also, it seemed like one stop away from, like, you know, a truck stop hooker story is what it sounded like. A truck stop hooker? I don't know. It just seemed like that was the whole insinuation behind it, which I just didn't enjoy. Yeah, it was weird.

50:58 It was a weird. A truck stop hooker? Not true crime. But it was. No. There was a folklore. He just said that she's a real, real person. Yeah. Molly Sorensen was absolutely a real person. I Googled it. Like Lizzie Borden. Lizzie Borden who like killed her parents. Took a wax, took 30 wax, that whole. Weird. No, we're family ones. Okay. You need to dive into that, Travis. Mama, let's research Lizzie Borden, I guess. Yeah, she was a real person, but now they're saying she haunts the ravine. Oh, okay. Yeah, she lives in a school bus. I didn't know anything about Lizzie Borden. Now we know. It's okay. It's not that great. I do love... random creepy situation so the like huddling up and like okay guys let's go down these train tracks like i i don't know i thought that was kind of funny if you like it i love it the entire time i was doing that i was like i don't need the kitschy blair witch found footage thing i didn't need it but if you like it i love it i thought it was great use of those camcorders they didn't need yeah right if we're gonna have them at least use them for something good production thank god yeah yeah um everyone kind of gangs up on baby gorgeous at the campfire again and um we get like five

52:32 seconds of that and then britney goes whitney i was really offended by what you said that i do for money and i was like shut up this is not for you you've had enough time in this episode Well, and so are the other women. They were all very much like, we don't need this is not the time for this, Brittany. Yeah, it's like Whitney is like having a real moment and being honest and saying, my business failed. I lost a shit ton of money. You know, I feel horrible about it. I had to fire people. And, you know, it doesn't again, doesn't happen on Housewives, like just that honesty. And in the middle of all this, Brittany is like, well, yeah, but back to me. But this isn't the first time she's done that.

53:13 She did that in Puerto Vallarta. Was it Puerto Vallarta? Yeah, Puerto Vallarta. When they were down there and she was like, you guys, what about me? I feel so left out. Shut up. I think I sent that to you, Emma, where that scene where Brittany was like, you guys, you're not supporting me. I had some really great news about my daughter. Shut up. Right. And then at the Audrey Hepburn party, she's like, you guys, like she stood up and was like, what? That's where, yes, that's where it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brittany. And the problem that I have with Brittany, I'm glad, sorry. I just, I couldn't believe her timing because I understand the conversation they were talking about where Brittany said, you suck dick for money. And then Brittany said. you started an mlm i get that she's like conflating that but for her to see this woman crying about her husband being fully invested and having to fire 30 people and then being like well i would still like an apology it's comedically bad is what it is like the timing is so comedically bad come on and then We do get into, and this is, I really appreciate this about Whitney because something I will give Whitney, she, the healing journey

54:45 I could have done without, but, like, she's very, very honest and real about, like, everything she goes through. And I don't think we're getting an act with Whitney. I think it's all real, and I do appreciate that. Yeah, no, I agree with that. I agree, yes. I like her, like, in general. I think she has no filter, and I think she's just, like, saying what's on the top of her mind. Wait until season three or four and tell me how much you like her. When it's all about the healing journey, like, it's a little... Like, when it revolves around, like, I'm... unpacking all the trauma like i i won't take that away from her because i think that's very real when she makes every situation about that that's what i struggled with yeah she definitely went a little overboard with it and just kept on like when she tried to conflate whether she was drunk or not you know being used in heather's book that was kind of like what are you talking about like you're just trying to have a story yeah fake outrage outrage but yeah But Whitney came back for me.

55:56 She came back for me last season, and I'll take it. What else? Did you like her red hair? No. I love her as a blonde. I do love her as a blonde more, for sure. She's gorgeous and can do whatever, but the blonde suits her better. I've said on our podcast probably 50 ,000 times that her face should be plastered everywhere. Her face should be studied. Stunning. She is beautiful and her skin is always like glass. Love her. She has made some. I met her at an event, at a drag event once. She was fantastic. Really? Was she really?

56:41 She looked that perfect in person. oh yeah it's just it's it was just like off -putting how pretty she was i was yeah and this is one thing i also believe about whitney is you know how a lot of like women you and i have known people like this before where like they collect gay people as friends and it's like i have gay friends i wholeheartedly believe whitney is like no no i'm i'm an ally to the community and i really do love gay men i that's something i really appreciate about I think so. It's not like, oh, I have to have a gay. It's like, no, these are actually real people. And they are my friends and not my accessories.

57:22 Yes. Yes. But they might also be my glam. Okay. Maybe. But like, I would love to be Whitney's glam. I'll tell you that right now. I would love to be Meredith's glam. I'll tell you that right now. And maybe even maybe Gorgeous's glam. Well, that'd be a full -time job for sure. Oh, 100%. Because $60 ,000 a year on glam. Yes. Just on glam. Just on glam. She doesn't go anywhere without it. I have glam in Saint -Tropez. I have glam everywhere. God, I love her so much. I have a cup somewhere that says that. I got something from Bravo that was like, I have glam everywhere I go. Anyway, I did appreciate Whitney being vulnerable. I also appreciated her pushing Brittany away, saying, I'm not ready for a hug right now.

58:12 And then you guys put in a note saying, what did Meredith do this episode besides come for Brittany? Yeah. What did Meredith really do? Like, she's very non -present in this episode. I don't need her to do anything besides come for Brittany. But it was like that one moment coming for Brittany and that was really about it. She's going to get along with everybody for the most part. And she defended Lisa, you know. by saying, every business takes time alone. It makes me wonder if she's going to have anything major storyline -wise this season, or if she's going to be kind of another participant. I'm sure she will. I would hope she does. I was going to say I'm sure she will. I hope she does, because last year was kind of a similar thing where she didn't have a lot going on, right? got her bar mitzvah and now she has all the dj money rolling in so you know i hope that they talk about her being a dj well they have to they absolutely have they should have given her a set out in the woods that would have been a great premiere they should have let her have the like do the new like theme music because you know um who is it it's not in my miami that's um oh adriana adriana yeah that's that's her singing like that's her miami song do you actually think that meredith

59:43 marks is mixing anything because i don't care she has someone doing that for her and she is going up there and pressing play and shaking her little titties and i love it and i'll watch every video that i can find it's a lot of jumping and i'm like good on her that's you know, good exercise. She's got cardio on her. Yeah, her two turntables and a microphone. Do you think she's actually listening to anything in the headphones? Probably exactly what's coming out of the speaker. It's just a lot lower volume. I love it. It's like, this is a little too loud. Brooks, can you turn it down? Noise cancelling and she has it playing really soft. Actually, Enya in the headphones. Not Enya. She's sailing away. Sail away, sail away. Oh, Lord. So the women end up going on. Meredith doesn't have to do anything this season. She just needs to be Meredith. I got you. I'm with you. That's all I need her to be. And here's the oddest to God's truth.

1:00:48 That's all I need any of the women to be is themselves. Like, they are all fairly entertaining. And even Brittany, like. If she just sits there and is pretty, like, I can handle that, too. Because I think she's one of the most beautiful men in the world. That's what I hate about her. Because I'm just like, ugh. Like, I wish I didn't like this about you. Because I don't want to like anything about you. But. I did just remember one more Meredith moment this episode. And it was so funny. Because she literally almost said nothing the whole episode. But she did find a way to plug her caviar. She said, I know nothing about fish except for that's where I get my caviar. Guys. I forgot about that. Yes. And I wish I liked fish because, like, I wish I could eat Meredith's caviar. Like, I wish I ate fish. Oh, you can still have caviar. It doesn't taste like fish. It tastes like nothing. Yeah. Oh, perfect.

1:01:39 I will never hire caviar. No. It tastes like butter, kind of. Oh, perfect. I haven't had caviar in a very long time, but yeah, that seems to be what I recall. Butter. Yeah. Gorgeous. We support Melissa Gorga and all her cookie endeavors, but we haven't gotten Meredith's caviar yet. Are Melissa's cookies good? Yeah. Yes. The cake is, I love the cake. The coffee cake, it's very good. We've had two so far. The cookies are, you know, what you'd expect, kind of, but they're very, we keep saying it, moist. They're very moist cookies. Do you not like the word moist? Well, no, but. I feel like the internet doesn't. Yeah, we avoided it. Hi, internet. The word moist is bestie approved. I hope you're okay with that.

1:02:25 But yeah, the coffee cake's delicious. Yes. Beautiful. Have you bought any of the Housewives merch? Do you have a? anything that emma will tell you that i single -handedly like am the sole supporter of the skinny girl brands in the state of indiana oh yeah i forgot about skinny girl i was about to be like no not really except for like 60 bottles of skinny girl that's true that's really like that's all i've really bought i i bought some what did i buy from countess louis oh i I stream her songs on Apple Music because I am trash.

1:03:07 Because money can't buy you class. We have three sets of Portia's sheets. Try saying that three times. I didn't know Portia had sheets. Pampered by Portia. They're really good sheets. They're amazing. I'll Google that right now. Pampered by Portia? Yeah. The only other thing we thought, I thought of getting Jeff like a three -wick candle for Christmas, but they were, they were really expensive. I'm like, 80 bucks for a joke is not funny to me. Is it from Karen or from Wendy? I wanted to get one of each just to make the joke go. So we could burn them both and be like. Seppos are still on the market. Cause I was looking into that actually. Yeah. And I don't know that they still sell them. I don't know that they were ever on the market. I think that was a storyline. Yes. You could be right. Oh, and these things are not that expensive. No, they're not. They're a good price. Oh, and I can buy them on Amazon, which means my papaw's going to pay for it because my Amazon is charged his credit cards. Anyway. What a day. what is it your papa yeah my papa my grandpa yeah okay oh that's cute it's it's really cute it's from kentucky anyway sorry like sorry to do the women

1:04:39 go on a ghost hunt bronwyn was wearing a gucci beanie and the logo looks like the nasty pig logo i didn't see it until you wrote it in the notes and then i was like oh i see it Because I saw it earlier and thought, that's a really weird logo. But then when you see it kind of in the grainy video, I was totally like, oh, 100 % see what he sees. I feel like Bronwyn would support Nasty Pig, so I think that's okay. 1000%, she'd be like, oh yeah, it's art. And then they go on their found footage ghost hunt. I think Meredith falls or something. I hope she's okay. I'll kill myself if she's not. um and then we get a sneak peek at the rest of the season um i get so like i didn't i guess i didn't clock it but whitney at one point said that they go on three trips this year so they go to greece they went on the rv trip and then there's like a below deck crossover for down under so at this point they go to australia and i'm so excited i'm also what i will say I never need to hear another word about Angie Katzenavis being Greek, but, like, I'm so excited that she gets to go to Greece. Like, I love that for her. Like, if they didn't, I'd be like, girl, like, you missed opportunity. Like, you talk so much about it.

1:05:56 Like, that is the girl's trip. I'm so glad they're doing that. And Greece is beautiful, so. Right. And then on the other side of, like, me being super excited about, like, everything that's to come, it does. See, like, it does look like we get a little bit more about Robert Jr.'s journey. This is in light of, like, he literally just got arrested last week. So, like, that's wild. But, like, I want him to be okay, number one. But, like, I'm so excited for this season. Like, my show is back. I'm so happy. All right. Like, there's Salt Lake. they all perform well like there's never a filler episode it's just like really good intense camp and drama and fun and the right balance of it all yeah it's not like it's not getting dark like the other shows are getting where it's you know being accused of drugging each other things like that yeah right just sucking dick for utah jazz tickets but yeah um oh and then i didn't realize jeff wrote this in here but like he you wrote that like this is similar to lisa's basis party where it's all like contained and it's like a capsule episode so i i agree i think so smart of like let's put them all together because usually like the first episode of a season is like let's see what everyone's doing been doing since we last saw them and i'm like i don't need that let's all be together on a cash trip and chaos will ensue and that's

1:07:29 the entire episode I think they originated that. I haven't seen every single first season episode of every show, but I think that's pretty smart and Salt Lake. 100%. So based on this episode and this episode alone, if you had to be friends with any of the women from Salt Lake City, who would it be? One person or? Just any of the women or if you had to pick multiple, that's fine too. I'd say Bronwyn. I'd say Bronwyn. Yeah. Or Angie. Bronwyn or Angie. Those are like my top two. I'd say Bronwyn probably followed by Whitney.

1:08:11 I like Whitney too. So part of you wants to say Mary, right? You're like, oh, I'd hang out with Mary. But you would be so goddamn confused the entire time you're hanging out with her. You'd be like, wait. Emma does not want to say Mary. I don't get her. Yeah, I don't, especially in season two, I don't either. It's off the rails. In season one, she left a bad taste in my mouth, and now I'm, like, through season two, basically. I'm, like, almost to the reunion, and I'm like, wow, we just don't click. I don't know. Something really changes with her when she decides to actually participate on the show. Like, I don't know what they explained to her, how much of a raise they gave her. But once she starts really actually being present, she's amazing. But those years where she's just like, would rather be doing anything else. It was awful to watch. It's awkward.

1:09:01 Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to give you my answer in a second. But like, if you like, if you look back and Emma, like, do you? do you remember a couple of the episodes where mary's in her kitchen and then robert jr comes home after being gone for like two days and she's like where were you like why didn't you answer your phone i promise in season four that is was it season four or five that is going to make sense and i think that'll put into context why she was not present oh yeah i never even really thought about that because i was i was about to say being a good mom Controversial hot take here. Being a good mom is not enough to make me like you on reality television. There are lots of good mothers out there. I get where you struggle with Mary 100%.

1:09:54 There's something about her that I really like. I can't quite put my finger. I think she's just out of her mind. I think that's what I like about her. Emma, who would you want to be friends with? Probably Heather or Meredith. They were pretty quiet, but Meredith really had me on the floor. It was clearly her first time fishing. That was... Absolutely was. I need an ETA on this fish catching. Where are the fish? For me, I think it would be... God, gun to my head. i think angie i think based on this episode alone i think angie really i think like angie like she's just she's fun she's like she's she doesn't take herself too seriously even though she's a pillar in the community yeah she's willing to get messy and you know and but she'll own up to it too yes or just downright gaslight you one way or the other but no in between she's just all the things yes beautiful well you guys this i think this is a really cool crossover experience i think we had an absolute time i had a good time i definitely had a good time yeah absolutely i feel a little out of it just because i've been home all day getting ready to go camping tomorrow so like i've just been kind of in and out but yeah no i had a really

1:11:25 fun time yeah like i think i love talking about housewives but i think i'd love to do another one where we're just like talk about random stuff like just you know what's been going on because like that's what you normally do on your show just like let's have a go let's catch up and i'm like yeah i like to do that too i love that this is also burning down right this is also such a long episode for you guys too because like you guys is like usually clock at like 35 minutes at the most and i'm like i looked down and i was like an hour and 15 minutes oh but it's good like i think you know we are coming straight from the episode and we're like also sometimes a little bit tired and it's also a little hot up here so like yeah yeah then that happened okay good night till next time so i think i like that you took the notes and like walked us through it and the entire episode i'm like oh yeah that point oh yeah oh yeah maybe i've said that i love that yeah and like i did warn you guys like i take notes like an insane person. And I hope it lived up to what I was going to be. I've tried taking notes before and it just ends up being a little keywords. And later on, I'm like, what the hell was I talking about? So like, no, you're I appreciate you doing that. That was great. Of course. Emma, do you just rely on him or do you take your own notes?

1:12:42 If I added to this, I think we might go insane. This is a note for like a regular episode. i'm along for the ride i just i've decided that if i put notes in there it would be far too long and i'm funnier in the moment i what i will say and this is why emma has always been such an incredible like partner like walking through my life with me and co -host like with me she is She's so, so, so, so good at just letting me be as absolutely out of my mind as I know I am. As I clearly am. Like, I'm not going to say for one second that I'm not, like, chaos.

1:13:32 But she does a very good job of, A, controlling that chaos. Like, she knows when to rein me in. And she's also so great about just being like, yeah, we'll see where the vibe goes. Like, we'll see what happens. Like, she's so good at that. And it's good to have an outline. I love an outline. That's kind of what I treat it as. Well, we tend to rely on the pictures behind us. So we go through and like, we just make sure we touch upon each of the housewives. And so sometimes we're like, we talk about her yet. And then. Yeah. Jogging memory. Yeah. So we actually screw ourselves and we're missing a set of pictures. We're like, Oh, who do we forget? No. I love that. Okay.

1:14:12 Jeff and Scott, tell us where we can find you. Tell the listeners, tell everyone. Oh, we're just so happy. We actually have our own website now. So husbandswatchinghousewives .com will give you all the stuff there. And then husbandswatching on TikTok and some form of that everywhere else. And Instagram. Instagram. All the places, yes. Spotify, wherever you... YouTube. Wherever you get your podcasts. I'm very happy with our search engine results. I Google myself when I'm bored at work now. I'm like, oh, the husbands are places. I love that. It's nice. I also want to make sure that people don't confuse us with other, you know, husbands watching other things because it could get dirty if it gets to the wrong site. Yeah. I think I've got a few of those bookmarks.

1:14:55 What are they watching? No, we're watching The Real Housewives. That's what we do. Yeah. I love it. Well, thank you so much for being here with us. And thank you for having such a fun time with us. Like, this has been so cool. This is fantastic. I hope we can do it again so we can get into some more some more deep seated opinions and maybe some disagreements on where we get with different housewives. Whatever you want, because we're very similar in our beliefs. And so it's fun to hear like others like, OK, that's a valid point why you don't like her. So, yeah. well i've got a ton of those don't you worry let this season of potomac start and i'll have opinions for everyone i will too trust you me so there's an open door for you to come on for the season premiere potomac what is it october 6th i think whatever you want do that because Just like those other podcasts are on Teresa's payroll. And there were rumors that Robin Dixon was paying off podcasts too. If Giselle started paying me, I would have no shame. She doesn't have to pay me. She doesn't have to pay me. Dear Giselle, don't you worry. You are bestie approved.

1:16:18 but yeah thank you guys so much for being here we loved it do you guys have anything else you want to plug before you go no not at all thank you for having thanks for having us and yeah listen to it whenever wherever you get your podcast cool