Emma's triumphant return and Travis's kidney stones.

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We're back. Yay! Hi, I'm Travis. And I'm Emma.

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And this is Bestie Approved. Yay! We're back.

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Yay! It's been a long time. What's the last song

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you listened to? Oh, good question. We also have

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a new guest with us today. It's baby Augie. He's

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just sitting in his little... I don't know what

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that thing's called. It's a swing. A swing. Yes,

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he just prefers it turned off. Oh, okay. Yeah.

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The last song Augie and I listened to was And

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I Told Them I Invented Times New Roman by Dance

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Cabin Dance. Okay. Just moving on. If you like

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it, I love it. My last song was Too Much by Dove

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Cameron. She's so pretty. She is very pretty.

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And leave it to RuPaul's Drag Race to tell me

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what songs I like now. Yeah, well, they've been

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on the polls for some time. Oh, 100%. You had

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a baby. I had a baby. How's that? Tell us everything.

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So it was great. I don't need to tell my whole

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birth story or anything, but he was eight full

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pounds at three weeks early, which is huge. And

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he's still huge. He's like he's wearing nine

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month old clothes. That's a lot. He's three months.

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Yeah, he's really big and he's really cute and

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I love him. He was super chill as like a newborn

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newborn and he's gotten tougher with age, which

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is fine. Love him to death. But now he's sleeping

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through the night. Yay. Which really helps. That's

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exciting. I do feel delirious. Like I, even though

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he's sleeping through the night, it's like. So

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much work during the day and I'm just like focused

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on this one baby all day that like every once

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in a while I feel like I'm just losing my mind

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a little bit. Like, do you ever get to take a

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nap? Like, is that a thing that like you're able

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to do? So like I could probably take a nap when

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he napped if I really wanted to. But that's like

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my only time to. do the laundry do the dishes

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do all the things because when he's awake then

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I feel so bad I'm like I'm supposed to be hanging

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out with the baby so like how can I just leave

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him to wash these dishes um it doesn't make sense

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and I know that to be true but that's where we

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are as long as we're on the same page yeah we'll

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get there we'll get there it's been great it's

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I yeah I'm just tired and he's so cute and healthy

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and perfect so he's perfect I will tell you like

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I you know I don't really like babies like I

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don't like kids in general um he's pretty chill

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to hang out with like he doesn't really bother

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me so I'm happy he's here yeah I don't know he

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like already outgrew his bassinet too like he's

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already sleeping in his crib which is crazy They

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say like six months before you move them, but

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he's over the weight limit. Do you think he's

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going to be super tall? I don't know. They say

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sometimes people are just like big babies and

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they end up averaging out. So I'm interested

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to see if he ever does. I would. I would like

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to see. I would like to see how he shakes out.

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I think he's going to be great. Yeah, I would

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think he would be big because he was like. Always

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big while I was pregnant with him. Yeah, he was

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always ahead of the curve. Yeah, and he still

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is. He's like, he was putting on weight so fast.

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I don't know. He's great. Yeah. Good job, Augie.

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Thanks for being here with us. Do you have any

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other, we don't have any pregnancy updates anymore.

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No, yeah. Jack has been the best. I do feel bad.

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Because like my attention is on the baby a lot.

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But. I feel like that's something like every

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mom has to struggle with when the dynamic changes

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from what it always was. Especially when he can

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feel it. You know. Yeah. I don't know. But like.

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I think Jack is kind enough and like understanding

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enough to realize like, oh, this is my little

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brother. And like he may not understand like

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the. Like what comes with that, but I think he

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understands like the idea of it. Yeah, most of

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the time he's chill about it. I think the hardest

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part is like Augie's still so little. He can

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only be up for like less than two hours at a

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time. And so I feel like I'm constantly telling

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Jack to be quiet so the baby can sleep like all

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the time, which sucks. But that'll get better

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with time, too. Yeah, I'm sure. He's doing great.

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He's always, like, trying to run. I also had

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the craziest fever infection situation, like,

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a week after Augie was born. It was the worst

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thing in the world. And Kenny had to, like, fully

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take care of the house and baby for a week while

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I was in bed, dying. It was the worst. Well,

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you and I both had a little bit of a... Ailments.

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Ailments. Are you okay over there? You coughing?

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So. I was I was worried about you. Because you

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like were sick in the bed, like sick, sick. Yeah,

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I was like breaking out in sweats. My fever got

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up to like one hundred and four or something.

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It was crazy. Yeah, I don't know. They never

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figured out really what was wrong with me. They

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just like. tried an antibiotic to see um if it

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would work and eventually it did so i don't know

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good on them i guess yeah i was worried i was

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going septic because i had just given birth so

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i don't know it was a whole thing it really sucked

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you know what all sucks kidney stones kidney

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stones how did i know um i uh I'm glad that you

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healed from your ailment and I ultimately ended

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up healing for mine, but I was, this is, uh,

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I guess like two or three weeks ago now, but

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like I was laying in the bed one night and I

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like woke up in the middle of the night and I

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was like, I'm dehydrated. I need to go drink

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some water. And like, cause my kidneys were like,

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it felt like they were sore. And so I drink water

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and then I. I'm not going to give all the horrific

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details because most of it was pretty gross.

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But like I pretty quickly knew that I needed

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to go to the hospital immediately. So I went

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to the hospital and they were like, oh, we need

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to do surgery like now. So I ended up having

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three surgeries in the course of three weeks

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because the kidney stone was infected. And. they

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told me that it wasn't anything I ate in the

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diet it wasn't anything like it wasn't drinking

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energy drinks it was it was fully like a genetic

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predisposition to it because of the type of kidney

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stone that like the build -up that it was and

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I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy and like

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I didn't know how that surgery went so like now

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I realized all my worst fears oh Yeah. Yeah.

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You didn't realize what they were doing. No.

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Yeah. No. And they like came in to tell me about

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it before the surgery. And I was like, do I have

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the option just to like leave it to surprise?

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Because I don't because they started telling

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me and I was like, I don't want to know the rest.

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It was horrific. Like, is it OK if I just die

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instead? Well, I was like, what do people I mean?

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they obviously they put you to sleep and it's

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a fairly routine surgery the doctor said he had

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like seven others to do that day and like i was

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in and out and like inside of like 30 minutes

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but i was like god and like for those who don't

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know like they go in through your dick and like

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they like basically put a tube up your urethra

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to like get to the kidney stone to like get it

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out like a straw basically um but I think about

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like women how they go to the gynecologist what

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once every six months and like they're just in

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your cooch once a year and they're just in your

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cooch like moving around I'm like have you ever

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seen a speculum that's the like duck thing right

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yeah I don't like that yeah do you understand

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what's happening there kind of It's not that

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it's painful necessarily, but yeah, it's cold

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metal. Why do they leave it cold? Why can't they

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like warm it up? Because modern medicine hates

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women. It's true. That is true. Modern medicine,

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the United States government. It's OK. Yeah.

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I bought a 3D printer. Yeah. Yeah. Jack loves

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his wand. I apologize. So for I don't for those

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who don't know, my neurodivergence like gets

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me into random things. And this is the thing

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I think that has stuck the longest. I was at

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Micro Center and they had a like an open box

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deal on. 3d printer it was like 275 dollars for

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what was normally like 600 and I was like why

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not and so I buy it and I take it home and I

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3d print it so like you the first thing you do

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is print like a like a boat like to like because

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it's a stress test with a 3d printer to see like

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if it can like do um like overhangs and it can

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do um like shapes and stuff without support and

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I immediately knew I created a monster. I have

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been just looking for shit to 3D print, like

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just for random reasons. I found the wands from

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Harry Potter. I 3D printed the Voldemort's wand

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from Harry Potter for Jack. And he's going around

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casting spells on August. I love that so much.

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Yeah, to get him to stop crying. To get him to

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stop crying. And I hope that's working because

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that's a pretty powerful wand. I discovered this

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system called Gridfinity, which is like a drawer

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organizing system where like everything is a

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grid and like the grid sits at the bottom of

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the like the base of the drawer and like you

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put like organizing things inside of the grid

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to like and it's like the perfect size. I bought

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a new set of drawers to do more Gridfinity. Yeah.

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I'm. I have a problem. You're going to be so

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organized. It's so sick. I love it so much. But

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it's fine if there's and there's a there's a

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couple of YouTubers that like all they do is

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3D print content. And there's one that is so

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stupid hot with his name, frankly, Bill. Frankly,

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if you're listening, I frankly love you and come

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on the pod. You're stupid hot. But yeah, I love

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my 3D printer. It's like my new favorite thing.

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I love that for you. My dad has always been like

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a printer salesman, basically printers and scanners.

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And so I got my first 3D printed thing like 15

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years ago, probably. and it was like the craziest

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thing ever because he like showed us how they

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did it and now they're like so in fashion which

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is crazy well they used to be um like industrial

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like things right and it was like a big deal

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that he brought home this like stormtrooper head

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that they 3d printed i will also say the material

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has come a long way because it used to feel like

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a freaking rock so That's the other thing that

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I have come to find is like there are so many.

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I didn't realize there were so many different

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kinds of like filament. Like so there's a bunch

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of different use cases. But yeah, like you can

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3D print with like foam and like silicone and

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stuff. Now it's crazy. That's cool. I love it.

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I'm so obsessed. Can you make like bendy things?

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You can make whatever your little heart desires.

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Wizards. Literally. so yeah i love that um so

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we oh we have new podcast friends um yeah there's

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uh like this is i'm this is a shameless plug

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for these guys um there are these two guys i

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don't know where they live i but they uh followed

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us on tiktok and i followed them back and they

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host a show called the first time in drag and

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it's like the sweetest most pure thing ever it's

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these two straight guys who or watching RuPaul's

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Drag Race, I think one of them is watching it

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for the first time ever and the other one has

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watched it several times and he's getting his

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friend into it. And it's the cutest thing to

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watch because like they're it's like seeing it

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for the first time. It's like it's kind of the

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way I wish I could see like the Real Housewives

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again, like seeing it for the first time through

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someone's eyes. I think it's adorable. So everyone

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should go listen to first time and drag because

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it's great. So I have a lot of random stuff on

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the list today. Did you see this TikTok of the

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McDonald's CEO? Oh, yeah. He's trying, like,

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what was he even eating? A burger of some kind.

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It was, I guess, a burger that's, like, done

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well globally, and now they're bringing it to

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the United States. Because apparently, like,

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we're the last people to get new McDonald's food.

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Like, this is a thing where, like, they test

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stuff in different markets. Oh, well, they have,

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like, different stuff in different countries,

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too. Right. So the McArch's or whatever the burger

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is called. They're bringing that. Yeah, the Big

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Arch. They're bringing that to, I guess, the

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United States. And watching this man eat this,

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like it was like he was being held hostage. You

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know what it reminded me of? That episode of

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Spongebob where Squidward tries to crabby pat

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him. He's like. And. I was going to point out.

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I saw this thing on Twitter, and now that I'm

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on the TikTok, I'm noticing it again. They are

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not calling these things burgers. They're calling

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it product. Right. Yes. I feel like that's a

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legal thing. Because I think it was Kenny who

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told me, because you know he's crazy about food.

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Uh -huh. There's something. I think it might

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be fast food burgers or something like that,

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where like... They'll never say the actual name

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of the food because the FDA would classify it

00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.820
as a pastry. Oh, no, no, no. It's it's bread

00:15:54.820 --> 00:15:57.759
from Subway. Oh, that's what it is. Because in

00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:00.639
the UK, there's so much sugar content. It's considered

00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:06.720
cake. Yeah. Yes. I don't think I don't know.

00:16:06.779 --> 00:16:11.600
I imagine it's because. he sees it all so clinically

00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:13.879
and he doesn't see it as like food that people

00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:17.240
enjoy. He sees it as a product. I truly believe

00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.399
that. He's a business guy. P .S. He's a CEO of

00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:21.120
McDonald's. Do you think he eats McDonald's?

00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:24.179
No. I don't know. But watching him, it was like

00:16:24.179 --> 00:16:27.220
he was being held at gunpoint. He was like, and

00:16:27.220 --> 00:16:30.019
like. It was a weirdly like dingy break room

00:16:30.019 --> 00:16:32.980
too. Weird, weird, weird, weird. And it was like

00:16:32.980 --> 00:16:36.019
he had the tray with like the paper on it. And

00:16:36.019 --> 00:16:38.320
like, it was so weird and uncomfortable. But

00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:40.259
then he's like. wow, I don't even know how to

00:16:40.259 --> 00:16:43.519
eat this burger. It was the most unappetizing

00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:46.500
piece of food I've ever seen. Like I would literally

00:16:46.500 --> 00:16:50.039
rather like go to like a concession stand at

00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:54.000
a high school baseball game. Give me slightly

00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:59.559
spicy cheese and some chips, please. I, yeah,

00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.279
it's weird. And then, like, the one little bite

00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:04.359
he took was, like, the Squidward bite. I'm going

00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.160
to, like, put it, like, in the, like, on the

00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:10.880
cover art. Like, that, like, he just took one

00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:15.119
pickle early. It was just a wild sight to behold.

00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.119
And it's crazy because I know we don't support

00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.539
McDonald's because they support Israel. 100%.

00:17:22.539 --> 00:17:24.480
I didn't know that. I haven't had McDonald's

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and I don't remember how long. I was just going

00:17:26.740 --> 00:17:28.619
to say, I love a snack wrap. This was not me

00:17:28.619 --> 00:17:30.359
trying to attack McDonald's, but they kind of

00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:32.359
attacked themselves with that weird ass video.

00:17:32.740 --> 00:17:35.859
Do you know what I miss deeply? The last thing

00:17:35.859 --> 00:17:38.220
I really remember enjoying from McDonald's was

00:17:38.220 --> 00:17:40.400
this thing called the McSkillet Burrito. I feel

00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:41.880
like I've talked about it on the podcast before.

00:17:42.569 --> 00:17:45.250
I don't know about the podcast. I have not had

00:17:45.250 --> 00:17:47.650
it since 2008 because I think that's when it

00:17:47.650 --> 00:17:50.009
went away. But it was like this. It's the one

00:17:50.009 --> 00:17:51.950
that had the potatoes, right? It had potatoes.

00:17:52.009 --> 00:17:55.509
It had salsa. It had sausage and eggs. And like,

00:17:55.549 --> 00:18:00.549
I think about it constantly. Yeah, that's how

00:18:00.549 --> 00:18:02.569
I was with the snack wrap. But now she's back.

00:18:03.970 --> 00:18:08.640
OK, I think we're good. You're good? We're back.

00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:11.420
August joined us. He needed a bottle and he is

00:18:11.420 --> 00:18:15.259
just here with us and he's doing great. He's

00:18:15.259 --> 00:18:17.779
definitely 100 percent going to fall asleep.

00:18:17.940 --> 00:18:23.140
I hope so and think so. I want to see if this

00:18:23.140 --> 00:18:29.920
is like picking you up. Yeah. OK. Moving on from

00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.640
the creepy McDonald's CEO. Yeah, that was. We

00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:37.089
have yet another TikTok. We have like four TikToks

00:18:37.089 --> 00:18:40.849
on here. So the first one, the next one is salting

00:18:40.849 --> 00:18:43.130
your kids. And I'm just going to say this. I

00:18:43.130 --> 00:18:45.349
think Kenny would be into this. I've seen that.

00:18:45.609 --> 00:18:48.490
What does it mean? In one video. It's literally

00:18:48.490 --> 00:18:52.789
those salt rooms that they were going to on Real

00:18:52.789 --> 00:18:57.349
Housewives of Salt Lake City. It's literally

00:18:57.349 --> 00:19:01.490
those inside your house, which is crazy. I think

00:19:01.490 --> 00:19:05.640
it's supposed to like. clean the air or something

00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:09.519
can I be so real with you I've been in a salt

00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:14.420
room before I felt no discernible difference

00:19:14.420 --> 00:19:17.180
in or out of the room before or after like I'm

00:19:17.180 --> 00:19:19.420
if it works for some people I love it for you

00:19:19.420 --> 00:19:21.579
I'm sure it's the same way like I feel about

00:19:21.579 --> 00:19:26.579
like NAD shots and like the IV vitamin treatments

00:19:26.579 --> 00:19:28.940
like I think those work for me and I really like

00:19:28.940 --> 00:19:32.069
those I feel like everyone thinks I'm crazy when

00:19:32.069 --> 00:19:35.170
I go do them and spend like $150 a pop on them,

00:19:35.210 --> 00:19:38.289
whatever. Kenny likes them. I love them. The

00:19:38.289 --> 00:19:41.210
NAD shots, I feel like I'm unstoppable afterwards.

00:19:41.549 --> 00:19:44.630
I've never gotten one. I need one. I'm going

00:19:44.630 --> 00:19:47.430
to be sick. Okay, so let me tell you about this

00:19:47.430 --> 00:19:50.450
first. It's going to make you feel really, really

00:19:50.450 --> 00:19:53.569
sick while you're getting it because what it

00:19:53.569 --> 00:19:57.029
does, the way they explain it to me is it knows

00:19:57.029 --> 00:20:01.589
where to go in your body. based on like what's

00:20:01.589 --> 00:20:04.069
going on like where you're yeah like where you're

00:20:04.069 --> 00:20:09.089
deficient in it and like for me it was like uh

00:20:09.089 --> 00:20:12.329
I felt like lightheaded and I felt like I wanted

00:20:12.329 --> 00:20:15.470
to like throw up a little bit and then as soon

00:20:15.470 --> 00:20:18.190
as the IV comes out I felt like a new person

00:20:18.190 --> 00:20:20.390
but you have to do like five treatments to like

00:20:20.390 --> 00:20:23.250
get your like base levels up and then like you

00:20:23.250 --> 00:20:26.089
do like once a month afterward i need to do that

00:20:26.089 --> 00:20:28.750
oh i'll take you to do it restore hyper wellness

00:20:28.750 --> 00:20:33.930
and caramel please sponsor us um but it's incredible

00:20:33.930 --> 00:20:37.990
but the salt room thing i don't i don't understand

00:20:37.990 --> 00:20:40.210
it it feels new agey it feels strange to me but

00:20:40.210 --> 00:20:43.650
like the long and short of it was it was a mom

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basically like i thought it was a zen garden

00:20:47.210 --> 00:20:49.069
is what i thought at first like where she's like

00:20:49.069 --> 00:20:52.529
raking the soul exactly yeah but it's a room

00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.559
full of salt and like i look at that and like

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my first thought is that is a fucking nightmare

00:20:59.339 --> 00:21:02.200
around the rest of the house and for your kids

00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:05.720
like kids are gross it's gonna get all sticky

00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:09.839
or like if you have babies what if it gets pee

00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:15.789
in it or pets no no and also like this is definitely

00:21:15.789 --> 00:21:19.230
mom brand of me to say but little little kids

00:21:19.230 --> 00:21:21.950
aren't supposed to ingest a lot of salt they

00:21:21.950 --> 00:21:24.829
can like overdose on the sodium really quickly

00:21:24.829 --> 00:21:27.769
so if you have little kids that are like going

00:21:27.769 --> 00:21:29.970
in that room and then licking their hands like

00:21:29.970 --> 00:21:34.029
i don't think this is the kind of salt you can

00:21:34.029 --> 00:21:36.150
ingest though like it's like because i think

00:21:36.150 --> 00:21:38.109
it's the stuff that comes directly from the ocean

00:21:38.109 --> 00:21:40.859
that's not like treated the way like iodized

00:21:40.859 --> 00:21:42.980
or whatever especially shouldn't be around kids

00:21:42.980 --> 00:21:46.579
they're gonna get sick yeah like you know kids

00:21:46.579 --> 00:21:49.140
are gross they will literally eat it kids are

00:21:49.140 --> 00:21:50.680
hellbent on killing themselves you taught you

00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:54.059
taught me that um and even if they don't straight

00:21:54.059 --> 00:21:56.700
up eat it they like their hands are in their

00:21:56.700 --> 00:22:00.500
mouths all the time right but so the whole long

00:22:00.500 --> 00:22:02.119
and short of it is and i think it comes from

00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:04.500
this place of like this new age health movement

00:22:04.500 --> 00:22:08.660
of like we don't trust doctors and like uh a

00:22:08.660 --> 00:22:12.039
boosted immune system is an immune system and

00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:15.059
overdrive is what this creator said and like

00:22:15.059 --> 00:22:22.940
part of me is like when I was a kid I was just

00:22:22.940 --> 00:22:26.740
thrown to the wolves like and granted part of

00:22:26.740 --> 00:22:29.519
that is some of some of that is like my childhood

00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:33.000
like whatever like my parents were not ready

00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:37.339
to be parents but like builds immunity to things

00:22:37.339 --> 00:22:39.579
is by being exposed to things yeah like when

00:22:39.579 --> 00:22:43.339
we were little kids like i remember one of the

00:22:43.339 --> 00:22:45.900
like i think it was miles got chicken pox and

00:22:45.900 --> 00:22:47.480
tina was like everyone get over here we're getting

00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:51.559
it over with now like that used to be a thing

00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:54.099
was chicken pox parties yeah because you're gonna

00:22:54.099 --> 00:22:56.059
get it eventually you're gonna drag that out

00:22:56.059 --> 00:22:57.740
and like you want it when you're a kid because

00:22:57.740 --> 00:22:59.480
when you if you get it as an adult like it will

00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:02.880
kill you yeah anyway um speaking of which have

00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:06.559
you gotten your like uh preventative shingles

00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:09.640
thing. I don't think you get that till you're

00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:14.180
like 50. Oh, I don't know. I didn't get chicken

00:23:14.180 --> 00:23:16.980
pox growing up because I think I was like one

00:23:16.980 --> 00:23:20.599
of the first years they had an immunization for

00:23:20.599 --> 00:23:26.299
it. Oh, Tina had the shingles and she was in

00:23:26.299 --> 00:23:29.140
the bed. And I'm not exaggerating for two weeks,

00:23:29.220 --> 00:23:32.940
just like in pain. Like she could like she couldn't

00:23:32.940 --> 00:23:36.730
really, really bad. But like I and I guess it

00:23:36.730 --> 00:23:38.430
comes from not having chicken pox when you're

00:23:38.430 --> 00:23:40.309
a little kid or like not becoming fully immune

00:23:40.309 --> 00:23:43.690
to it. You have to have chicken pox at some point

00:23:43.690 --> 00:23:47.849
to get shingles. Something. I don't know if it's

00:23:47.849 --> 00:23:52.049
like the virus like mutates over time and then

00:23:52.049 --> 00:23:54.430
comes back to bite you or what it is. But the

00:23:54.430 --> 00:23:57.170
two are connected. You have to have had chicken

00:23:57.170 --> 00:24:01.349
pox to have shingles. OK. Yeah. Then maybe I

00:24:01.349 --> 00:24:04.069
had it backwards because I don't like. I don't

00:24:04.069 --> 00:24:06.009
know. But, like, I do know that Tina had the

00:24:06.009 --> 00:24:10.069
shingles and literally could not move because

00:24:10.069 --> 00:24:12.289
it was so painful. She said, like, it felt like

00:24:12.289 --> 00:24:14.309
someone was, like, just, it was broken glass

00:24:14.309 --> 00:24:17.609
on her skin. Ugh. And I hate that. That's horrible.

00:24:18.250 --> 00:24:22.509
But, like, all that to say, I don't know that,

00:24:22.549 --> 00:24:24.950
like, I think there's probably a lot to be said

00:24:24.950 --> 00:24:28.109
for, like, Eastern medicine. And, like, there's

00:24:28.109 --> 00:24:30.410
got to be a balance between, like, we'll throw

00:24:30.410 --> 00:24:35.250
a pill at everything. Literally, like, meditating

00:24:35.250 --> 00:24:37.009
your stuff away. Like, there's got to be some

00:24:37.009 --> 00:24:40.470
happy medium there. Yeah. I don't know that a

00:24:40.470 --> 00:24:43.430
salt room is the answer. I don't know. I feel

00:24:43.430 --> 00:24:49.150
like, for me, it's harmless if you're an adult.

00:24:49.849 --> 00:24:52.410
Sure. I kind of have a problem with you putting

00:24:52.410 --> 00:24:54.589
your kids in there, but they're your kids. I'm

00:24:54.589 --> 00:24:55.970
not going to judge your parenting or whatever.

00:24:55.990 --> 00:24:58.509
God bless. I'm saying I wouldn't put my kids

00:24:58.509 --> 00:25:02.079
in there. For nothing else. It's just they're

00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:05.319
tracking. It's like sand in your carpet and like

00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:07.740
on your hardwood floors and you're never getting

00:25:07.740 --> 00:25:10.500
rid of it. I know that to be the truth. No, you're

00:25:10.500 --> 00:25:13.859
not. And like, I don't know, kids, pets, whatever.

00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:18.460
They're just like absolute liabilities. Yeah.

00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:24.859
Even myself. What happens if you spill something

00:25:24.859 --> 00:25:29.369
in that room? Does salt absorb stuff like sugar

00:25:29.369 --> 00:25:34.390
does? I don't. I think to some extent, but like

00:25:34.390 --> 00:25:36.789
it would be gross, right? It's like I imagine

00:25:36.789 --> 00:25:40.630
it's like. Scooping a litter box. That's exactly

00:25:40.630 --> 00:25:42.789
what I was thinking. Yeah. Like I just like I.

00:25:42.849 --> 00:25:49.710
Yeah. Casey Rose Wilson from the Bitch Sesh podcast

00:25:49.710 --> 00:25:56.319
turned me on to my other new obsession. I want

00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.980
an Alaskan king bed so fucking bad. They're huge.

00:26:00.460 --> 00:26:03.440
There are two California king beds next to each

00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:08.359
other. Yeah. I want it. Yeah. Deeply and truly

00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:12.460
and madly in love with it. Yeah. I don't blame

00:26:12.460 --> 00:26:18.069
you. What I will say is. I have a regular king

00:26:18.069 --> 00:26:20.730
bed, which I'm obsessed with. I'm never running

00:26:20.730 --> 00:26:24.569
out of room. I love that bed. It also fills up

00:26:24.569 --> 00:26:27.730
my entire room. So I would be worried to get

00:26:27.730 --> 00:26:31.130
a new, a bigger bed than that. You, I think,

00:26:31.130 --> 00:26:34.769
have to be, you have to live in a house like.

00:26:35.470 --> 00:26:37.910
That is palatial, first of all, to like make

00:26:37.910 --> 00:26:39.970
this work. But I also think you have to be the

00:26:39.970 --> 00:26:42.609
kind of person that like is building your bedroom

00:26:42.609 --> 00:26:45.509
around the bed or it's like you're the same kind

00:26:45.509 --> 00:26:47.670
of person who builds like your living room around

00:26:47.670 --> 00:26:51.529
the the cloud couch from Restoration Hardware.

00:26:51.710 --> 00:26:55.230
Yeah, it's that same concept. I want one so bad,

00:26:55.450 --> 00:26:57.829
but I know this baby will bark. Tanya almost

00:26:57.829 --> 00:27:01.809
bought one and I am so mad she didn't. I think

00:27:01.809 --> 00:27:05.240
like 10 grand or something. For the. the itty

00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:07.160
bitty ones yeah they're like if you're gonna

00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.160
get like one of the sectional ones you're at

00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:10.779
a minimum you're spending twenty thousand dollars

00:27:10.779 --> 00:27:14.160
worth every penny I think I think so too it's

00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:16.299
just I have kids and they're gonna fuck it up

00:27:16.299 --> 00:27:18.759
you know what I mean but I mean I have my restoration

00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:21.339
artwork couch that I bought yeah when I like

00:27:21.339 --> 00:27:25.220
when I moved into Solana and that thing is a

00:27:25.220 --> 00:27:27.740
tank like you can't like i mean i had boomer

00:27:27.740 --> 00:27:29.500
on that when he was a puppy and like he could

00:27:29.500 --> 00:27:32.359
not destroy it like he i worry for the markers

00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:35.980
era oh yeah i'm really worried about but and

00:27:35.980 --> 00:27:38.880
to be fair boomer also like there was part of

00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:40.960
the couch that like he scratched to hell and

00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.559
back like because he was a puppy but like it

00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.480
was that kind of it's fine well it's fine and

00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.559
i couldn't be mad at him but like it's also that

00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:51.660
like kind of distressed leather that like he

00:27:51.660 --> 00:27:53.640
did it and i was like I don't hate the way that

00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:57.400
looks. Cause I was like, I could be so mad at

00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.200
you for ruining my $6 ,000 couch, but like you

00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.420
made it better. It's his couch too. It is his

00:28:03.420 --> 00:28:11.539
couch. It's his home. Ashley Tisdale. This happened

00:28:11.539 --> 00:28:15.019
while you were on your maternity break. And I've

00:28:15.019 --> 00:28:16.500
been desperate to get your thoughts about this.

00:28:16.619 --> 00:28:22.990
So Ashley Tisdale wrote an article on her. blog

00:28:22.990 --> 00:28:27.869
about toxic mom groups and the mom group that

00:28:27.869 --> 00:28:30.829
she was a part of included Hillary Duff, Mandy

00:28:30.829 --> 00:28:36.910
Moore, Meghan Trainor. And there was one other

00:28:36.910 --> 00:28:41.390
mom that's like that's of that like group, but

00:28:41.390 --> 00:28:44.869
she wrote an article about toxic mom groups and

00:28:44.869 --> 00:28:47.910
how she felt like she had to remove herself from

00:28:47.910 --> 00:28:49.410
the group. And I want to get your thoughts on

00:28:49.410 --> 00:28:56.759
this as a mom. Yeah. I don't know. Did you read

00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:00.799
the article? Yeah, but I just, here's the thing.

00:29:01.180 --> 00:29:04.759
I'm not really in a mom group per se. There's

00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:09.200
like a Facebook group that's more like, it ends

00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.599
up being more like what's going on around Westfield,

00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.319
what news you have. Like the tea is not personal.

00:29:15.380 --> 00:29:19.759
No. Right. But then in real life. I'm I would

00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.140
say I'm friends with like two or three of Jack's

00:29:23.140 --> 00:29:25.700
friends moms and it's not like we're like hanging

00:29:25.700 --> 00:29:28.640
out all the time we will go like get a hard cider

00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:31.119
while the kids play and stuff but Tori is one

00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:33.799
of them yeah and she's so cool like I she's not

00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.119
she's not one of these podcasts hi Tori she's

00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:39.380
one of these people that like I would not think

00:29:39.380 --> 00:29:41.900
of as a toxic mom but like there are a couple

00:29:41.900 --> 00:29:45.170
of people we know That I immediately put into

00:29:45.170 --> 00:29:47.349
that category. I was going to get to the moms

00:29:47.349 --> 00:29:50.509
that I'm close to. We would literally never have

00:29:50.509 --> 00:29:54.210
this problem. Like, I don't think I think if

00:29:54.210 --> 00:29:56.829
any of us had a problem with the other one, we

00:29:56.829 --> 00:29:59.529
would just say that. Yeah. But also like what

00:29:59.529 --> 00:30:01.309
problems are there to be had when all you're

00:30:01.309 --> 00:30:03.089
doing is just letting your kids play together?

00:30:03.349 --> 00:30:05.430
Well, so that's the thing that I kept asking

00:30:05.430 --> 00:30:09.730
is. what was the problem and Ashley Tisdale said

00:30:09.730 --> 00:30:12.349
like it was because she was like being purposefully

00:30:12.349 --> 00:30:15.730
left out of like group chats and um yeah like

00:30:15.730 --> 00:30:20.069
events and I don't know I I agree with you gives

00:30:20.069 --> 00:30:23.930
like social paranoia yes you know you just feel

00:30:23.930 --> 00:30:26.869
like you're being left out when in reality like

00:30:26.869 --> 00:30:29.289
no one is getting around behind your back and

00:30:29.289 --> 00:30:32.910
being like let's not invite Ashley like that

00:30:32.910 --> 00:30:35.450
just doesn't seem realistic to me no that's weird

00:30:35.450 --> 00:30:38.259
and like And here's the thing, like what, what

00:30:38.259 --> 00:30:40.279
I will give Ashley Tisdale the benefit of the

00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:43.900
doubt for is this is a universal human experience.

00:30:43.900 --> 00:30:46.640
Like every single person on God's green earth,

00:30:46.660 --> 00:30:50.720
man, woman, child, they gay, whatever. Yeah.

00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:54.740
You have experienced feeling left out. Left out.

00:30:54.740 --> 00:30:57.240
You've experienced feeling like someone didn't

00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.579
like you and you've had the experience of like,

00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.980
I don't like the way I feel. That is so heightened

00:31:03.980 --> 00:31:09.079
to when you're a mom. Yes. It's really hard to

00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.400
keep like an individual identity when all you're

00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.859
focused on all day, every day is being a mom.

00:31:16.460 --> 00:31:20.660
So I think it puts an added pressure on any of

00:31:20.660 --> 00:31:23.720
these relationships with adults that you do have

00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.460
because you're like, I need to show up. This

00:31:26.460 --> 00:31:30.319
is like how I be my own person is like. with

00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:32.759
this group of friends. And so you put so much

00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:36.059
pressure on that, that I think she definitely

00:31:36.059 --> 00:31:38.599
started to overthink something. Oh, see, I was

00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:40.380
coming at it from the angle of like, I wonder

00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:43.740
if she like thought it was about her kid. Like,

00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:45.880
do you know? Cause it's like, like if it's like,

00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:50.140
if I like, let's just say I put myself in your

00:31:50.140 --> 00:31:54.299
shoes and like you take Jack to some event and

00:31:54.299 --> 00:31:56.680
like Jack gets a little buck wild. Cause he's,

00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.799
he can be crazy sometimes. And you find out that

00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.240
the other moms did something without you, you're

00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.140
immediately like, oh, is it because my kid, like,

00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:09.119
was bouncing off the walls? Like, I don't, like,

00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.259
I would come out swinging about that, 100%. I

00:32:12.259 --> 00:32:16.079
do think that most adults understand that, though,

00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:18.180
because, like, they have their own monsters,

00:32:18.259 --> 00:32:23.519
too. Yes. You know? I will say, either way, if

00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:26.829
nothing was happening, which seems... The more

00:32:26.829 --> 00:32:29.569
likely scenario for me, they were leaving her

00:32:29.569 --> 00:32:31.890
out because of her or they were leaving her out

00:32:31.890 --> 00:32:34.950
because of her kid. Whatever the case is, and

00:32:34.950 --> 00:32:37.309
it's probably somewhere in the middle. The real

00:32:37.309 --> 00:32:41.930
life truth is probably somewhere in all of this

00:32:41.930 --> 00:32:49.130
mess. I think what I didn't see her say was that

00:32:49.130 --> 00:32:52.269
she doesn't want to be a part of something that

00:32:52.269 --> 00:32:55.970
doesn't want her. There it is. That's what I,

00:32:55.990 --> 00:32:58.950
that's what I needed from her to say. I needed

00:32:58.950 --> 00:33:01.529
her to communicate that because that's the real

00:33:01.529 --> 00:33:03.829
life truth. If that were to happen to me where

00:33:03.829 --> 00:33:06.609
I felt like I was getting left out for whatever

00:33:06.609 --> 00:33:09.490
reason, because of my kid, because of me, because

00:33:09.490 --> 00:33:13.170
of whatever, I would be like, okay, great. Like,

00:33:13.230 --> 00:33:15.670
I don't want to go anywhere that doesn't want

00:33:15.670 --> 00:33:20.349
me. Right. I think the other thing too, is like,

00:33:20.349 --> 00:33:27.390
just from like a quick, scan of this blog it

00:33:27.390 --> 00:33:30.430
feels like and I'm not trying to be mean because

00:33:30.430 --> 00:33:32.809
I think you and I are like in a similar -ish

00:33:32.809 --> 00:33:35.549
place where it's like we're we've had a lot of

00:33:35.549 --> 00:33:37.430
change over the last couple of years and I think

00:33:37.430 --> 00:33:38.890
we're trying to figure out like what our new

00:33:38.890 --> 00:33:41.009
identities look like like mine was like applying

00:33:41.009 --> 00:33:43.410
to law school yours was like having two kids

00:33:43.410 --> 00:33:45.829
like this whole thing that like we're experiencing

00:33:45.829 --> 00:33:47.670
and like I think we're throwing a lot of things

00:33:47.670 --> 00:33:50.650
at the wall I see a lot of that in Ashley Tisdale

00:33:50.650 --> 00:33:53.660
where it's like It's you're you're doing the

00:33:53.660 --> 00:33:55.859
lifestyle blog thing and like the posts are a

00:33:55.859 --> 00:33:57.519
little bit like you're trying to find your identity.

00:33:57.619 --> 00:33:59.619
And that's cool. And that's fine. You're seeing

00:33:59.619 --> 00:34:03.019
what works. Exactly. Yeah. The the thing that

00:34:03.019 --> 00:34:11.420
I'm struggling with, though, is. She's in like

00:34:11.420 --> 00:34:13.679
an identity crisis, so she's in like a vulnerable

00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:17.400
place. She starts feeling like her friends are

00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.039
leaving her out. It's like I get to where she.

00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:25.420
gets to, like, this emotional place. I think

00:34:25.420 --> 00:34:27.300
anyone could understand that, but just because

00:34:27.300 --> 00:34:30.199
it's, like, it's Ashley Tisdale and she's name

00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:31.780
-dropping all of these names. But that's the

00:34:31.780 --> 00:34:34.320
thing, she never name -dropped any of them. Oh,

00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:36.599
where did you find the group? I thought I just

00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.980
missed it. It was everyone else on God's Green

00:34:39.980 --> 00:34:43.360
Earth telling who the group was. Oh, how did

00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:48.530
they know? Well, Crystal Minkoff... from the

00:34:48.530 --> 00:34:50.190
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills she was like

00:34:50.190 --> 00:34:54.349
I was part of that mom group and um I didn't

00:34:54.349 --> 00:34:57.309
see that was that in there it was in one of the

00:34:57.309 --> 00:34:59.889
other articles and I I heard Crystal talk about

00:34:59.889 --> 00:35:01.969
talk about it on their podcast and what I will

00:35:01.969 --> 00:35:04.590
appreciate about Crystal is she was like listen

00:35:04.590 --> 00:35:07.070
I'm gonna be honest I get both sides of it because

00:35:07.070 --> 00:35:12.190
yeah what Hilary Duff's husband or I I think

00:35:12.190 --> 00:35:14.070
they got married what Hilary Duff's husband did

00:35:14.070 --> 00:35:17.900
was He made fun of the article and then he posted

00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:19.599
another headline saying when you're the most

00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.760
self -obsessed person, it's weird when people

00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.139
look and just like focus on their own kids. So

00:35:25.139 --> 00:35:27.679
I would imagine that the truth is somewhere in

00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.579
the middle. But like looking at this group of

00:35:30.579 --> 00:35:36.400
women, it's a pretty. So Hilary Duff is my age.

00:35:36.900 --> 00:35:39.019
Ashley Tisdale is a little bit closer to your

00:35:39.019 --> 00:35:43.219
age. I lie and say I'm 29, but like Emma and

00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:47.170
I are seven years apart. Megan Trainor, I think,

00:35:47.170 --> 00:35:49.309
is a couple of years younger than me. Mandy Moore

00:35:49.309 --> 00:35:53.769
is in her 40s. So it feels like the group is

00:35:53.769 --> 00:35:55.869
spread out enough to where I don't know if they

00:35:55.869 --> 00:35:58.809
have kids that are all the same age. So in my

00:35:58.809 --> 00:36:02.050
mind, I'm like, if they like if they did leave

00:36:02.050 --> 00:36:05.050
you out, I believe it was entirely unintentional

00:36:05.050 --> 00:36:06.750
because it's like, oh, like we're just putting

00:36:06.750 --> 00:36:09.090
kids in the same age bracket together. That's

00:36:09.090 --> 00:36:12.519
immediately where my mind went. I think what

00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:14.539
was a wild choice was getting on the Internet

00:36:14.539 --> 00:36:16.159
and talking about it because she knew exactly

00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.699
what she was doing. I'm so sorry. She knew what

00:36:18.699 --> 00:36:22.239
she was starting. Yeah, that is where I wanted

00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.320
to leave. This is that she's actually Tisdale

00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.059
and she knew 100 percent that this was going

00:36:27.059 --> 00:36:30.059
to get likes and views and maybe put her on the

00:36:30.059 --> 00:36:36.539
map again. Additionally, I'm sure that her super

00:36:36.539 --> 00:36:41.880
high. like both net worth and like reputation

00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:46.659
mom group out in LA has a lot more drama than

00:36:46.659 --> 00:36:50.820
like my quiet suburb, small little mom group

00:36:50.820 --> 00:36:57.699
does. However, I just can't imagine. I can't

00:36:57.699 --> 00:37:00.079
imagine all the stuff she was saying was true.

00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:03.590
What I'm. inclined to believe because crystal

00:37:03.590 --> 00:37:05.590
talked about this is that when crystal went on

00:37:05.590 --> 00:37:07.210
the real housewives of beverly hills she was

00:37:07.210 --> 00:37:08.809
she felt like she was immediately cut out of

00:37:08.809 --> 00:37:11.530
the group i would imagine it's one of these things

00:37:11.530 --> 00:37:15.349
where it's like we don't want the public to be

00:37:15.349 --> 00:37:17.750
part of our mom group and like when you are part

00:37:17.750 --> 00:37:19.909
of the real housewives like you immediately become

00:37:19.909 --> 00:37:26.309
that i assume like Ashley Tisdale, just from

00:37:26.309 --> 00:37:28.130
what it looks like, wants to be a little more

00:37:28.130 --> 00:37:30.090
in the public eye than she has been in the past

00:37:30.090 --> 00:37:34.010
few years and that's kind of... If there was

00:37:34.010 --> 00:37:36.289
any feeling like that, I have to assume that's

00:37:36.289 --> 00:37:37.829
where it's coming from or from like the kids

00:37:37.829 --> 00:37:40.329
age brackets or something. Yeah, because she

00:37:40.329 --> 00:37:42.829
does feel on the young end compared to like Mandy

00:37:42.829 --> 00:37:44.650
Moore. I don't know how old their kids are. But

00:37:44.650 --> 00:37:47.809
anyway. Yeah. Yeah, that's like super weird.

00:37:48.210 --> 00:37:50.570
That was a wild article. And that was like a

00:37:50.570 --> 00:37:52.309
big deal for a couple of weeks. Like that took

00:37:52.309 --> 00:37:59.199
TikTok by storm. Yeah. Okay. Love you, Ashley,

00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:03.000
too. You're great. I liked you on The Suite Life,

00:38:03.099 --> 00:38:06.800
Zach and Cody. Do you want to complain before

00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:12.679
we get into Reality Roundup? Yeah. I just saw

00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:17.079
what's on your list. Go for it, yeah. I would

00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:21.059
like to complain about the monstrosity that is

00:38:21.059 --> 00:38:26.420
Stevia and the fact that it is sold as if...

00:38:26.710 --> 00:38:31.309
It is a direct substitute for sugar. That shit

00:38:31.309 --> 00:38:37.409
is disgusting. Disgusting. It leaves almost like

00:38:37.409 --> 00:38:42.389
a licorice -y flavor in my mouth. It's gross.

00:38:42.730 --> 00:38:46.449
Kenny loves it. I'm convinced there's a gene

00:38:46.449 --> 00:38:50.409
like the cilantro gene that makes you impervious

00:38:50.409 --> 00:38:58.269
to stevia or hate it. I agree. Yeah. Oh, goodness.

00:39:00.389 --> 00:39:03.670
It's a monstrosity. I made these snickerdoodles

00:39:03.670 --> 00:39:11.090
for Kenny. Oh, God. It was disgusting. Rolled

00:39:11.090 --> 00:39:13.889
in like the powdered seaweed. It tastes like

00:39:13.889 --> 00:39:19.710
grass to me. It's so gross. I would love a zero

00:39:19.710 --> 00:39:22.889
calorie sweetener that does not taste like absolute

00:39:22.889 --> 00:39:26.750
bullshit. Do you not like Splenda? no it's the

00:39:26.750 --> 00:39:29.570
same thing for me really a different taste than

00:39:29.570 --> 00:39:35.210
Splenda is almost sweeter than sugar it is and

00:39:35.210 --> 00:39:40.949
I don't like that I like I like the real Splenda

00:39:40.949 --> 00:39:43.090
it can't be like generic Splenda because that

00:39:43.090 --> 00:39:45.329
tastes gross to me like Splenda is the only one

00:39:45.329 --> 00:39:49.469
I do like I am not a fan of Splenda I'm an extra

00:39:49.469 --> 00:39:53.070
not fan of stevia. Whatever one comes in the

00:39:53.070 --> 00:39:55.809
pink and the blue packs, I think those are disgusting.

00:39:56.269 --> 00:40:01.110
Sweet and low. Isn't that what that is? I think

00:40:01.110 --> 00:40:03.449
so. I think that's the pink one. And then whatever

00:40:03.449 --> 00:40:06.030
the blue one is, it's disgusting. It's gross.

00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:10.750
It's all gross. I would prefer a raw sugar. Oh,

00:40:10.889 --> 00:40:14.599
like a rock sugar? Yes. Oh. I love... like a

00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.340
natural sugar you know what else i love brown

00:40:17.340 --> 00:40:20.420
sugar i love brown sugar brown sugar splenda

00:40:20.420 --> 00:40:24.739
that's it my grandma used to give me a little

00:40:24.739 --> 00:40:27.380
bowl of just brown sugar because if she didn't

00:40:27.380 --> 00:40:30.280
i would sneak like handfuls of it because i loved

00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.679
it i love that just like straight up brown sugar

00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:35.920
do you know what what makes brown sugar brown

00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:39.500
sugar molasses yeah that's crazy who the fuck

00:40:40.190 --> 00:40:44.670
I have to be so real. I don't know who has any

00:40:44.670 --> 00:40:48.489
of these ideas that like came to be like, I think,

00:40:48.489 --> 00:40:50.070
you know how much I love steak, like how much

00:40:50.070 --> 00:40:52.329
I love a really good steak. I want to know who

00:40:52.329 --> 00:40:54.849
said to themselves, let's bludgeon this cow to

00:40:54.849 --> 00:40:56.949
give Travis what he really loves, which is a

00:40:56.949 --> 00:41:01.190
New York strip. Instinctive, right? Cause like

00:41:01.190 --> 00:41:06.210
animals or an accident. Yeah. I mean the age

00:41:06.210 --> 00:41:08.429
old, like how do we figure out we could drink

00:41:08.429 --> 00:41:12.530
animal milk? yeah that that one i'll never really

00:41:12.530 --> 00:41:16.570
get behind but that's okay but it's like i don't

00:41:16.570 --> 00:41:19.949
know other animals do it like other animals eat

00:41:19.949 --> 00:41:23.829
animals sure so like did we i don't know anyway

00:41:23.829 --> 00:41:28.190
i don't know um i'm complaining about social

00:41:28.190 --> 00:41:31.010
media apps that are constantly trying to push

00:41:31.010 --> 00:41:34.489
you into new social media apps like I'm not downloading

00:41:34.489 --> 00:41:37.110
lemonade I don't know what that is I've blocked

00:41:37.110 --> 00:41:40.190
it on TikTok and I I guess it's the same parent

00:41:40.190 --> 00:41:43.289
company as TikTok I'm not interested in it I

00:41:43.289 --> 00:41:48.300
actually so I put this in but like Maybe I can

00:41:48.300 --> 00:41:50.719
like forgive this one. Instagram to threads because

00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.699
Instagram has become completely unusable. What

00:41:53.699 --> 00:41:57.239
I don't appreciate are like those ads that are

00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.960
like the first half. And you click on it and

00:41:59.960 --> 00:42:03.119
it makes you download it. Yeah. Go to hell. I

00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:06.559
will tell you, I created a threads account for

00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:09.320
the podcast. I didn't realize I did it because

00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:11.340
when I made our Instagram, like it immediately

00:42:11.340 --> 00:42:13.619
made a threads account. Like that's a new thing.

00:42:15.210 --> 00:42:18.349
I'm just not on threads and I... It's hard to

00:42:18.349 --> 00:42:22.429
like commit to a new app. It really is. And yeah,

00:42:22.510 --> 00:42:26.349
I don't like the baby posts. I don't like any

00:42:26.349 --> 00:42:28.730
of that. I understand that you want me to use

00:42:28.730 --> 00:42:31.690
your other apps for some reason. If it's that

00:42:31.690 --> 00:42:34.670
great of a concept, add it to this app. Well,

00:42:34.710 --> 00:42:40.650
that and like... I don't... I don't fully understand

00:42:40.650 --> 00:42:43.769
like your... I don't know if you can advertise

00:42:43.769 --> 00:42:45.889
on threads the way you're advertising on Instagram.

00:42:45.949 --> 00:42:49.289
Like you're losing market share if you're pushing

00:42:49.289 --> 00:42:51.610
people to threads. And like the same, I don't,

00:42:51.610 --> 00:42:54.610
Lemonade, I don't know what it is and I don't

00:42:54.610 --> 00:42:56.489
want to find out. I'm not interested. I keep

00:42:56.489 --> 00:42:58.289
getting like these things that are like, oh,

00:42:58.369 --> 00:43:01.110
Logan's on Lemonade. Everyone I follow on TikTok

00:43:01.110 --> 00:43:04.469
is on Lemonade. I don't care. Good for them.

00:43:04.769 --> 00:43:07.670
I hope they're getting paid. I don't know. Yeah.

00:43:07.730 --> 00:43:10.860
So that's what I'm complaining about. I hate

00:43:10.860 --> 00:43:13.760
it, too. I really do. Do you want to do a shorter

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:16.699
reality roundup today? Because I realized I started

00:43:16.699 --> 00:43:18.800
watching this episode of The Real Housewives

00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:20.940
of Salt Lake City last night, and I fell asleep

00:43:20.940 --> 00:43:23.420
in the middle of it, and I took zero notes on

00:43:23.420 --> 00:43:28.880
it. Yeah. Okay. We can talk about Lisa Barlow

00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:33.380
and the traitors. Yes. Okay. Okay. You've seen

00:43:33.380 --> 00:43:35.340
all of the traitors now, right? Yes, I've seen

00:43:35.340 --> 00:43:37.260
every bit of it. We have to talk about this reunion.

00:43:37.380 --> 00:43:41.329
I would like to. But first, I want to talk about

00:43:41.329 --> 00:43:47.429
one. Mrs. Lisa Barlow liked our New Year's post.

00:43:47.829 --> 00:43:51.510
Hi, Lisa Barlow. Hi, Lisa Barlow. If you're listening,

00:43:51.789 --> 00:43:54.969
baby gorgeous. I love you. I'm really, really

00:43:54.969 --> 00:43:58.969
happy when I when that notification popped up

00:43:58.969 --> 00:44:02.250
on my Instagram. I lost my ever loving shit.

00:44:02.309 --> 00:44:05.469
I told everyone that would listen. Lisa fucking

00:44:05.469 --> 00:44:08.619
Barlow. Liked our Instagram. And I don't need

00:44:08.619 --> 00:44:11.940
any. You can't tell me shit. We're celebrities

00:44:11.940 --> 00:44:16.039
now. Thank you Lisa Barlow. We love you. We love

00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.880
you Lisa Barlow. Also Lisa Barlow. Go on the

00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:25.119
traders. I said the same thing. But can I be

00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:28.280
honest. It would either be perfect. Or it would

00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.900
be a disaster. And let me tell you why. Her at

00:44:31.900 --> 00:44:35.239
the round table. I want you to imagine. It can

00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.579
go. so so so well and it could be like this is

00:44:38.579 --> 00:44:42.500
the lisa we love or it's gonna be her screaming

00:44:42.500 --> 00:44:44.099
you're lying you're lying you're lying you're

00:44:44.099 --> 00:44:48.559
lying like i i live for both sides of it okay

00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:52.760
i would love to watch her accuse someone that's

00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:56.719
not a traitor because i never back down so convincing

00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:59.699
and even if she wasn't she would ride that wave

00:44:59.699 --> 00:45:04.690
until one of them was out Secondly, I would love

00:45:04.690 --> 00:45:08.690
to see her get falsely accused. That's what I'm

00:45:08.690 --> 00:45:14.090
saying. I would love to watch that. She. Because

00:45:14.090 --> 00:45:15.869
here's the thing. Say what you will about Lisa

00:45:15.869 --> 00:45:20.010
Barlow. She's entertaining and like on the traders.

00:45:20.110 --> 00:45:24.570
This is the only arena in which we have undeniable

00:45:24.570 --> 00:45:28.010
proof whether or not someone is lying. I would

00:45:28.010 --> 00:45:31.230
love to see Lisa Barlow. where she has like she

00:45:31.230 --> 00:45:33.289
can go and say i was never tapped on the shoulder

00:45:33.289 --> 00:45:34.949
and like she can say at the reunion and she's

00:45:34.949 --> 00:45:38.670
like now what like i want that bad yeah i need

00:45:38.670 --> 00:45:42.190
to see her on traders really bad but even if

00:45:42.190 --> 00:45:46.469
she crashes out i love her i do too i just i

00:45:46.469 --> 00:45:50.150
feel bad when it's like a season -long crash

00:45:50.150 --> 00:45:52.789
out and it's like there there's no progress there's

00:45:52.789 --> 00:45:55.289
no traction she doesn't get anywhere but i will

00:45:55.289 --> 00:45:57.690
say and this is going off the rails a little

00:45:57.690 --> 00:46:04.670
bit when And she I think what she does is like

00:46:04.670 --> 00:46:08.630
puts up this exterior on the show and it gets

00:46:08.630 --> 00:46:10.929
it gets it gets messy. It gets a little bit ugly.

00:46:11.010 --> 00:46:13.250
But like she was talking about how even when

00:46:13.250 --> 00:46:15.809
she was fighting with Angie Kay during the season,

00:46:15.909 --> 00:46:19.050
like when they would ask her questions in. confessionals

00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:21.010
about angie k she'd be like i'm not going there

00:46:21.010 --> 00:46:23.949
that's my friend and i think she protects her

00:46:23.949 --> 00:46:25.750
friendships and like this is why i keep coming

00:46:25.750 --> 00:46:27.449
back to her and this is why i keep loving her

00:46:27.449 --> 00:46:31.489
is because she is a safe space for if you've

00:46:31.489 --> 00:46:33.670
ever had her heart she's always gonna love you

00:46:33.670 --> 00:46:35.550
even if you're fighting and i think there's a

00:46:35.550 --> 00:46:37.829
loyalty there that like i do think it's kind

00:46:37.829 --> 00:46:41.900
of rare loyal person yes I would also love to

00:46:41.900 --> 00:46:44.519
see her be a traitor. I think she would be a

00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.340
great traitor. I think she'd be a great traitor.

00:46:46.420 --> 00:46:48.239
I think she would be the best faithful that that

00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:51.059
show has ever seen, though. I think more than

00:46:51.059 --> 00:46:54.059
anything, she'd be an incredible faithful. 100%.

00:46:54.059 --> 00:46:56.559
And she'd take it so seriously, too. Oh. She'd

00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:00.619
be so serious. I feel like it would be two or

00:47:00.619 --> 00:47:03.320
three months after the show was wrapped and she

00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:05.199
would still have feelings about it. She'd still

00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:09.480
find new clues. On the rewatch. Yes. She's like,

00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:12.300
hold on. She's like reliving it with all of us.

00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.059
Oh God. Lisa Barlow, please go on the traders.

00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:22.059
Um, speaking of the traders, this was so good.

00:47:22.139 --> 00:47:25.400
Start to finish. Not a single filler episode,

00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:27.659
not a single second that I didn't love zero.

00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.619
And I was worried. I was worried in the first

00:47:30.619 --> 00:47:33.880
couple of episodes. I was like, wow, I fucking

00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:37.039
hate Michael Rappaport. That's all I could think

00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.340
about. I hate him too. I still hate him. All

00:47:39.340 --> 00:47:40.940
I can think about is how much I hate this guy,

00:47:41.019 --> 00:47:45.079
but then he leaves and then it's so good. Like

00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:48.940
the whole rest of the season. Um, I didn't like

00:47:48.940 --> 00:47:51.059
how they treated Ron. It made me feel really

00:47:51.059 --> 00:47:54.760
bad for him. I felt weird about that. Cause like,

00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:57.380
I didn't disagree with anything they were saying,

00:47:57.539 --> 00:47:59.980
but I was like, you guys are being mean to him.

00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:03.619
They're being mean. And he, I don't know. He's

00:48:03.619 --> 00:48:06.239
a standup comedian, right? But I saw him on TikTok

00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:10.059
saying, um, Oh, the whole internet watched the

00:48:10.059 --> 00:48:12.719
traitors and the internet diagnosed me with autism.

00:48:13.340 --> 00:48:15.599
So I went to the doctor and it's true. I am autistic.

00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:19.699
And I was like, damn, like they wouldn't just

00:48:19.699 --> 00:48:23.099
let this guy be himself this whole time. I don't

00:48:23.099 --> 00:48:24.539
know. They were being mean to him. I didn't like

00:48:24.539 --> 00:48:26.739
it. They were mean to him. I didn't like that.

00:48:26.820 --> 00:48:30.159
I didn't like, um, I, I hated Michael Rapaport

00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:33.039
though. I like, I, I can't get over that. He

00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:37.480
was so hideous. I really thought when they announced,

00:48:37.789 --> 00:48:40.449
the lineup. I thought he'd be the first to go.

00:48:40.710 --> 00:48:44.110
Yeah, but I also thought maybe he was trying

00:48:44.110 --> 00:48:46.650
to make a PR move and make more people who hate

00:48:46.650 --> 00:48:50.710
him see that he's just a guy. No! He shows up

00:48:50.710 --> 00:48:55.670
absolute monster. Monster, monster, monster from

00:48:55.670 --> 00:48:59.329
start to finish. My God. The thing about him

00:48:59.329 --> 00:49:03.550
is I don't know where he came from. I don't care,

00:49:03.690 --> 00:49:06.800
but like He's made a name for himself. He let

00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:10.219
us know. God, I also hate that thing of like,

00:49:10.260 --> 00:49:12.340
I'm a New Yorker. I'm a New Yorker. Shut the

00:49:12.340 --> 00:49:14.679
fuck up. I don't understand why it needs to be

00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.000
the first and only thing we know about you. And

00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.380
the most important thing about you. I'm a New

00:49:19.380 --> 00:49:21.300
Yorker. I like to talk shit. I like to trash

00:49:21.300 --> 00:49:24.019
talk people. We play ball. Like, it's weird.

00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:28.159
It's weird. This Bronx thing that you're doing

00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.800
is not real. And you can tell. You can tell that's

00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.139
not really him. And he's like, I've been nothing

00:49:34.139 --> 00:49:36.539
but myself this whole time. And I'm like, you

00:49:36.539 --> 00:49:39.179
don't know who you are. I agree. I can see right

00:49:39.179 --> 00:49:43.239
through this. This is not you. He's also made

00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.659
a name for himself in the Bravo space of being

00:49:45.659 --> 00:49:47.940
friends with some of the housewives. He's gone

00:49:47.940 --> 00:49:50.579
on Watch What Happens Live a few times. I'm sure

00:49:50.579 --> 00:49:53.699
he did say that, yeah. And I think he tries to

00:49:53.699 --> 00:49:56.760
take on this persona of some of the housewives.

00:49:58.010 --> 00:50:01.949
very gross like what he's doing is when he did

00:50:01.949 --> 00:50:04.530
the the one that keeps coming back to me at the

00:50:04.530 --> 00:50:06.550
reunion is the clip thing do you remember that

00:50:06.550 --> 00:50:11.989
from Dorinda Medley and I was like I would have

00:50:11.989 --> 00:50:14.650
gotten up and knocked him the fuck out. Like,

00:50:14.650 --> 00:50:17.469
I'm so serious. He was being so disrespectful

00:50:17.469 --> 00:50:19.829
that whole time. Like, as if they were still

00:50:19.829 --> 00:50:22.289
in a game or something. And the way he was talking

00:50:22.289 --> 00:50:24.349
to Portia Williams, I was like, you do not speak

00:50:24.349 --> 00:50:26.750
that way to Portia. Let me explain one thing

00:50:26.750 --> 00:50:30.030
and one thing only to you. I will defend Portia

00:50:30.030 --> 00:50:34.400
Williams with my life. God, I love her. Speaking

00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.340
of Portia, she should have stayed on way longer.

00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.860
I was so sad to see her go. I feel like people

00:50:40.860 --> 00:50:42.480
that didn't know her didn't even get to see,

00:50:42.539 --> 00:50:45.780
like, her personality. I agree. And, like, the

00:50:45.780 --> 00:50:50.760
other thing, too, is, like, I truly thought she

00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:53.119
was the secret traitor. Like, when they were

00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:54.820
about to vote her out. Because I was like, she

00:50:54.820 --> 00:50:58.219
did say, when we murdered, when this happened.

00:50:58.380 --> 00:51:00.500
I know. I was watching that, and I was like,

00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:03.139
Of course y 'all. Cause I like, obviously we

00:51:03.139 --> 00:51:05.360
know watching it that she like, well, we didn't

00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:08.619
know. No, we didn't know that. Yeah. I was, I

00:51:08.619 --> 00:51:10.599
could almost tell that she misspoke cause she

00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:12.019
was just like talking really fast and almost

00:51:12.019 --> 00:51:14.380
like talking as she was thinking. And I could

00:51:14.380 --> 00:51:17.280
tell. And I was like, girl, why would you say

00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:20.519
that? I, I agree. But like at the same time I

00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.409
was like. when she was talking and like trying

00:51:23.409 --> 00:51:25.110
to like backtrack it, I was like, Oh, she fucked

00:51:25.110 --> 00:51:27.130
up. And like, that's why, like, that's why I

00:51:27.130 --> 00:51:28.909
was shocked that it was Donna Kelsey. I was like,

00:51:28.929 --> 00:51:31.269
I didn't see that coming from 10 million miles

00:51:31.269 --> 00:51:34.650
away. I loved her on there. I think she was adorable.

00:51:34.750 --> 00:51:36.429
And like, I think that there was something really

00:51:36.429 --> 00:51:38.369
sweet about like her being starstruck about some

00:51:38.369 --> 00:51:42.750
of the housewives. And like, I did love when

00:51:42.750 --> 00:51:46.070
she was like, yeah, I got to like, I, I got to

00:51:46.070 --> 00:51:47.849
kind of like redefine myself. Like I've been

00:51:47.849 --> 00:51:51.239
Travis and Jason's mom forever. Now I get to

00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:54.139
be Donna Kelsey. And that was so sweet to see.

00:51:54.179 --> 00:51:58.820
And I think she's a mom that I really want good

00:51:58.820 --> 00:52:02.260
stuff for. I hope she really knows how much every

00:52:02.260 --> 00:52:06.440
single faction of America loves her. She should

00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:10.619
be president. You know what? Why not? I don't

00:52:10.619 --> 00:52:12.280
care what her policies are. Couldn't get worse

00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:15.800
than what we have now. God. She surely isn't

00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.210
going to send us into a war. I feel like she

00:52:19.210 --> 00:52:23.130
would solve everything. She seems so calm. Down

00:52:23.130 --> 00:52:27.550
to earth. Yeah. I'm going to say this, and I

00:52:27.550 --> 00:52:29.369
know that I'm going to get backlash for this.

00:52:29.530 --> 00:52:34.489
What? Colton Underwood and Rob Roush. Colton,

00:52:34.530 --> 00:52:39.550
Colton, Colton. I hate that man so deeply. I

00:52:39.550 --> 00:52:43.570
didn't know anything until about two weeks ago.

00:52:43.670 --> 00:52:49.019
I knew. Okay. So when the lineup came out, I

00:52:49.019 --> 00:52:51.440
knew he had been a bachelor and I knew there

00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.820
was tea. I didn't really know what had been going

00:52:53.820 --> 00:52:56.460
on. And then I saw people online talking about

00:52:56.460 --> 00:52:59.219
him. So I went on a big old rabbit hole. And

00:52:59.219 --> 00:53:03.940
boy, he is not a great guy. To which he says,

00:53:04.059 --> 00:53:08.599
I was in a bad place in my life. I do feel like

00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:10.980
it was a little bit of a cop out when he was

00:53:10.980 --> 00:53:13.659
explaining it away. What I will buy is that's

00:53:13.659 --> 00:53:17.300
true. Yeah. A hundred percent. He was in the

00:53:17.300 --> 00:53:19.940
closet and he was like really having a tough

00:53:19.940 --> 00:53:22.960
time mentally, obviously. And I get that you're

00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.239
at a traders reunion, so you don't want to do

00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:28.539
this whole big apology. I feel like, unfortunately,

00:53:28.659 --> 00:53:31.940
the solution for someone like him is to not go

00:53:31.940 --> 00:53:39.000
on a show like that. Or you fall on your sword

00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:42.119
and you say everything is true. I fucked up so

00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:46.530
bad. And like I. like you you have to like come

00:53:46.530 --> 00:53:49.409
completely completely clean about it a hundred

00:53:49.409 --> 00:53:51.289
percent and i feel like if you're gonna stay

00:53:51.289 --> 00:53:54.750
in the public eye no matter how long ago it was

00:53:54.750 --> 00:53:57.090
because that's another thing about me that bothers

00:53:57.090 --> 00:53:59.650
him about me is what i was trying to say is that

00:53:59.650 --> 00:54:05.719
he bothers you about him sorry yes God. I told

00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:07.079
you I'm tired. No, you're okay. You're okay.

00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:09.760
Another thing is that he seems to be like, well,

00:54:09.820 --> 00:54:11.820
this was so long ago. I can't believe people

00:54:11.820 --> 00:54:13.760
are still talking about it. If you want to stay

00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:15.880
in the public eye after you do some bullshit

00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.920
like that. It's going to be around forever, Diva.

00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:21.239
You need to accept that. And every single time

00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:23.480
you talk about it, you need to say you're sorry.

00:54:23.619 --> 00:54:26.579
Yes. Every single time. I don't care how long

00:54:26.579 --> 00:54:29.239
ago it was. I don't care. 50 years from now,

00:54:29.380 --> 00:54:31.340
you still need to be saying you're sorry every

00:54:31.340 --> 00:54:36.079
time. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Or get out of the

00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.420
public eye. Like, I think those are your choices.

00:54:39.659 --> 00:54:43.480
Yes. Because that was really fucked up. And I

00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:46.360
don't know. It is what it is. However. They are

00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:49.480
so beautiful. Him and Rob Rouse are so fucking

00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:51.860
beautiful. Can't deny that face card. God, they're

00:54:51.860 --> 00:54:54.340
so hot. You're a horrible man. And I'm with Lisa

00:54:54.340 --> 00:54:59.880
Rinna on this. But your face. Is very symmetrical.

00:55:00.059 --> 00:55:04.219
And Rob Roush, baby. Oh, God. Thrupple all day.

00:55:04.380 --> 00:55:07.340
I loved him on Love Island. Love, love, loved

00:55:07.340 --> 00:55:10.340
him on Love Island. And then he did my girl Leah

00:55:10.340 --> 00:55:12.239
dirty. And I was like, I'll never look at Rob

00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:14.039
again. And then he was on The Traitors. And he

00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:16.559
did the same goddamn thing to Maura. I'm looking

00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:20.219
at Rob again. He is so beautiful. This is how

00:55:20.219 --> 00:55:22.280
he gets, this is how he does it. It's because,

00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:26.360
like, he's hot. He catches snakes. And... Oh,

00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:29.960
yeah. He's got something for everybody. Yeah.

00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.639
Because he's like classically hot, but he also

00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:35.780
like lives in the trailer in Alabama. But he's

00:55:35.780 --> 00:55:39.340
also like on reality TV. Yeah. He's got something

00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:42.360
for everybody. God. He's beautiful. I found out

00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:46.360
yesterday he has a brother who is also beautiful.

00:55:46.579 --> 00:55:51.079
Hot as the day is long. Yeah. Wow. And I. It

00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:54.960
was an exciting finale, how he won. It was fun

00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:58.119
to watch. Was it? Am I saying it's morally correct?

00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:01.639
No. But did it have my jaw on the floor? Yes.

00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:07.139
The finale, the way it shook out was wild. Because

00:56:07.139 --> 00:56:09.800
I did not expect it to go the way it did. Yeah.

00:56:09.980 --> 00:56:13.099
I also, I'm going to be so honest. I swear to

00:56:13.099 --> 00:56:16.679
God, I thought Rob was going at the end to like.

00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.099
throw in the red thing and be like try to get

00:56:20.099 --> 00:56:21.980
more to vote him out or something i was like

00:56:21.980 --> 00:56:24.000
he's good he's gonna throw it because he's like

00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.980
gonna show the world he's a good guy i swear

00:56:25.980 --> 00:56:28.239
to god like that's the narrative i made up in

00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:30.300
my head and if you would have watched love island

00:56:30.300 --> 00:56:34.780
you would know he's not that good of a guy at

00:56:34.780 --> 00:56:39.460
the end of the day he is just a man and and that's

00:56:39.460 --> 00:56:43.920
all he ever will be recognizes that i I felt

00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:46.460
so bad for Maura at the end. Oh, I wanted to

00:56:46.460 --> 00:56:49.320
die for her. But it is just a game. Like, it's

00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:50.880
not like she's going to be upset about it forever.

00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:55.800
Yeah. You know? And it's like, I also felt bad

00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:57.619
for Eric because he was like, hey, what the fuck?

00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:02.280
Oh, you could tell Eric was betrayed. Yeah. But

00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:04.360
they just like, they just did a TikTok together

00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:06.480
yesterday. Yeah. So like, I think they're fine.

00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:11.159
But it was crazy to watch. It was. And like.

00:57:12.319 --> 00:57:14.380
In the back of my mind, I'm like, it's just a

00:57:14.380 --> 00:57:15.880
game. It's just a game. It's just a game. But,

00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:18.280
like, you saw the way Mora was, like... She had

00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:22.230
tears in her eyes. She was heartbroken. And she

00:57:22.230 --> 00:57:24.449
had said so many times in, like, confessionals,

00:57:24.449 --> 00:57:26.110
she's like, if it's Rob, I'm running out of the

00:57:26.110 --> 00:57:28.809
castle. If it's Rob, like, put me on the cross.

00:57:28.949 --> 00:57:31.510
Like, if it's Rob, I will not believe it. You

00:57:31.510 --> 00:57:33.869
can tell she filmed one of those last confessionals

00:57:33.869 --> 00:57:36.969
after the roundtable, that last roundtable, though,

00:57:37.030 --> 00:57:38.949
because, like, you could tell, like, her heart

00:57:38.949 --> 00:57:42.030
was not in it. Yeah, she seemed, like, depressed.

00:57:42.070 --> 00:57:46.210
Like, she was mad to be there. Do you know who

00:57:46.210 --> 00:57:49.590
I also ended up really liking? Tara Lipinski

00:57:49.590 --> 00:57:52.610
and Johnny Weir. I loved them too. I'm so glad

00:57:52.610 --> 00:57:55.010
you said that. I feel like as a little duo, they

00:57:55.010 --> 00:57:57.929
were so cute. It reminded me so much of me and

00:57:57.929 --> 00:58:03.369
you. Like just that like best friends like doing

00:58:03.369 --> 00:58:05.869
the thing. I will say Johnny Weir's done it a

00:58:05.869 --> 00:58:10.690
little overboard with the filler. Yeah. I don't

00:58:10.690 --> 00:58:13.309
think he looks like. He doesn't look the way

00:58:13.309 --> 00:58:15.750
he used to look. No, he doesn't. But I also don't

00:58:15.750 --> 00:58:17.989
think he looks botched. No, no, no, no. It's

00:58:17.989 --> 00:58:20.809
just, it's that. His face is very fixed. Yes.

00:58:20.829 --> 00:58:24.630
And it's that, that thing that like, it's hard

00:58:24.630 --> 00:58:27.429
to do filler on guys. And I think like you just,

00:58:27.489 --> 00:58:29.829
when you keep going, like it's, it's a slippery

00:58:29.829 --> 00:58:33.050
slope. You know what else put me off about his

00:58:33.050 --> 00:58:36.550
face? And I think this has happened. This is

00:58:36.550 --> 00:58:38.789
Johnny Weir is not even the worst case. I think

00:58:38.789 --> 00:58:44.139
some people. get botox too close to when they're

00:58:44.139 --> 00:58:48.260
going on a show yes and it looks unnatural yeah

00:58:48.260 --> 00:58:50.059
because they can't move their eyebrows very well

00:58:50.059 --> 00:58:52.320
and their skin is still really glassy which looks

00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:55.579
beautiful but when they speak it's like and it

00:58:55.579 --> 00:58:57.880
doesn't it doesn't help that he does a ton of

00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:00.539
skincare and you can tell and like he's beautiful

00:59:00.539 --> 00:59:03.320
by the way right and it's like but it's all highlighted

00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:05.980
and like it's like there's a spotlight on it

00:59:05.980 --> 00:59:09.130
i'm like very glowy yes But also, he can't make

00:59:09.130 --> 00:59:12.369
facial expressions. Right. But I loved them together.

00:59:12.449 --> 00:59:15.489
I thought, like, they were just so adorable.

00:59:16.010 --> 00:59:20.510
I didn't know how sweet and cute Miss Tara Lipinski

00:59:20.510 --> 00:59:23.050
was. I didn't either. I had no idea. I had no

00:59:23.050 --> 00:59:25.750
idea. I love her. She was so nice the whole time.

00:59:26.050 --> 00:59:27.630
And, like, I think I knew they were friends.

00:59:27.650 --> 00:59:29.650
I didn't know they were, like, best good girlfriends.

00:59:30.090 --> 00:59:33.429
And, like, I'm glad they were. But I didn't know

00:59:33.429 --> 00:59:38.920
that they, like, um. There's something so endearing

00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:42.280
about someone like Tara, who the whole time is

00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:44.539
like, listen, I don't know what's going on. I've

00:59:44.539 --> 00:59:46.980
been wrong so many times. Like, I don't know.

00:59:46.980 --> 00:59:50.099
I'm bad at this game. There's something so endearing

00:59:50.099 --> 00:59:51.900
about that, though. Especially when she makes

00:59:51.900 --> 00:59:53.579
it to the end, because everyone just loves her

00:59:53.579 --> 00:59:56.019
so much. They don't want to kill her or banish

00:59:56.019 --> 01:00:00.440
her. Yeah. Like, I love that. I wish we saw more

01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:02.360
of Dorinda. I was so happy they brought her back.

01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.570
Oh, God. I do hope they follow suit and bring

01:00:05.570 --> 01:00:09.230
Portia back to the next one. But I wish we saw,

01:00:09.250 --> 01:00:13.369
we didn't hear like anything from Dorinda. All

01:00:13.369 --> 01:00:17.889
season. Candace Dillard. I was waiting to talk

01:00:17.889 --> 01:00:20.809
about her. I need a whole segment about Candace.

01:00:21.030 --> 01:00:24.489
First of all, excellent choice of traitor. Excellent.

01:00:24.690 --> 01:00:29.110
So smart. So good at everything. Loved her. Loved

01:00:29.110 --> 01:00:34.340
her. Very diplomatic. Yeah. Love her. And I love

01:00:34.340 --> 01:00:37.579
that she defended my girl Lisa after Rob betrayed

01:00:37.579 --> 01:00:39.920
her. She knew that could get her out and she

01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:43.500
said, I'm going to do it anyway. Loved her. However,

01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:46.840
she showed up at that reunion and she thought

01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:50.699
she was at a Potomac reunion. She started going

01:00:50.699 --> 01:00:53.900
for everyone's necks as if the game wasn't over

01:00:53.900 --> 01:00:55.639
and it wasn't just a game. She and Lisa both

01:00:55.639 --> 01:01:00.719
did. Yeah. And it's... fascinating to talk about

01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:03.380
you next well it's it's so funny to see these

01:01:03.380 --> 01:01:05.340
personalities come together because you like

01:01:05.340 --> 01:01:08.179
you can tell who was a very good housewife like

01:01:08.179 --> 01:01:11.519
lisa reno was like i'm not dropping it also her

01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:13.219
book by the way have you heard anything about

01:01:13.219 --> 01:01:17.519
her book i've seen like ads for it on her tiktok

01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:19.420
like they show up on my for you page i'm gonna

01:01:19.420 --> 01:01:22.719
buy it and read it and it because it gets nasty

01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:25.960
about like Sutton's track and like some of the

01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:28.699
other women. I cannot wait. Yeah, I want to hear

01:01:28.699 --> 01:01:32.199
all of it. Lisa, though. What were you going

01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:35.559
to say about Lisa right now? I loved her this

01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:51.639
season. I thought she ate it up. Aww. That fixed

01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:53.059
it. You've been holding for a minute? You've

01:01:53.059 --> 01:01:56.739
been. Or you can put him in his little... Come

01:01:56.739 --> 01:02:00.320
here, big guy. Come here. Let's do this. You

01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.159
can hang out with your chavis. Hello. Hello.

01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:08.579
Hello. You good? Come here. Let's hang out for

01:02:08.579 --> 01:02:14.360
a minute. Okay. I thought Lisa was also an excellent

01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:18.090
trader. I think that she did such a good job.

01:02:18.150 --> 01:02:21.170
I think she's not the best liar. No, she's a

01:02:21.170 --> 01:02:25.949
bad liar. But she was so fun to watch. She was

01:02:25.949 --> 01:02:29.309
fun to watch. And like something that like you

01:02:29.309 --> 01:02:31.610
can see the progression from season one to now

01:02:31.610 --> 01:02:33.969
is like how deeply they get into the fashion

01:02:33.969 --> 01:02:39.179
of all of it. Yeah. And she did. Good at that.

01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:41.719
She ate down. She was so excited to wear that

01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:43.639
dress to the banquet. I don't even think that

01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:45.900
was her best look. No. She was eating it up the

01:02:45.900 --> 01:02:47.920
whole time. Oh, so good. And that picture of

01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:54.280
her in the cage. Loved it. You're okay. What's

01:02:54.280 --> 01:03:03.019
wrong? Yeah, I loved it. I loved it. Tom Sandoval

01:03:03.019 --> 01:03:06.000
from last season. You remember him? Do you know?

01:03:06.139 --> 01:03:08.599
He's like on the X Factor or something now with

01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:15.679
his band. Like as a contestant. God. I thought

01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:18.460
he would be too famous for a show like that.

01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:23.059
I don't think he's too famous for anything. He

01:03:23.059 --> 01:03:25.880
was on Vanderpump. I don't know. No, I think

01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:28.940
that he is someone who will do anything he can

01:03:28.940 --> 01:03:33.820
to get a little more publicity. Yeah. I want

01:03:33.820 --> 01:03:35.019
to come back to the reunion for a minute, though.

01:03:35.179 --> 01:03:38.880
Yeah. Yeah. I hate Michael Rappaport. I hate

01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.940
him. I hate him. I hate him. I thought they might

01:03:41.940 --> 01:03:44.639
not even invite him to the reunion. I truly thought

01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:46.599
he wouldn't show up because it's like the backlash

01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:49.579
that he got from America. Right. It was bad.

01:03:49.659 --> 01:03:51.960
And like the way he was so comfortable speaking

01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:55.460
to Portia and Candace the way he did. I didn't

01:03:55.460 --> 01:03:58.059
like that. And you notice that he only did it

01:03:58.059 --> 01:04:01.260
to the women. He didn't talk that way to other

01:04:01.260 --> 01:04:06.219
men. The way he ate is a crime. That video of

01:04:06.219 --> 01:04:10.659
him with the plate. Oh, my God. Why are you drinking

01:04:10.659 --> 01:04:13.579
it like a cup? And I literally wrote this in

01:04:13.579 --> 01:04:17.000
the notes. Who the fuck do you think you are?

01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:20.559
He thinks he is so famous. I think he went on

01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.440
there thinking everyone was going to know who

01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:25.420
he was. Right. No one knows. This was your first

01:04:25.420 --> 01:04:28.519
impression to so many people. And you fucked

01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:32.420
it up. And you, you absolutely biffed it. I mean,

01:04:32.460 --> 01:04:37.380
it is so bad. I also, this is a thing they've

01:04:37.380 --> 01:04:39.860
tried on a couple of other housewives reunions.

01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:43.280
I didn't love the like weird cutaways of like,

01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:46.460
like a weird commercial they were doing in the

01:04:46.460 --> 01:04:48.780
middle of it of like, oh, this, like the, the

01:04:48.780 --> 01:04:51.639
award for this goes to like, it was strange to

01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:56.960
me. Like it didn't feel natural. Yeah. I am hotter.

01:04:57.449 --> 01:05:01.369
than when Rob picked Maura up, hotter than when

01:05:01.369 --> 01:05:04.650
he meowed, is when he was at that round table

01:05:04.650 --> 01:05:08.630
and he corrected Michael Rapaport on his use

01:05:08.630 --> 01:05:12.789
of commiserate. Oh, that was good stuff. I said,

01:05:12.889 --> 01:05:17.090
oh, hello. You read the dictionary one time.

01:05:17.309 --> 01:05:20.989
Yeah. You're in the trailer reading the dictionary,

01:05:21.010 --> 01:05:24.449
aren't you? watched so many videos of him in

01:05:24.449 --> 01:05:26.349
this trailer and he just looks happy as a clam

01:05:26.349 --> 01:05:32.110
and i want to visit it so bad i do too yeah yeah

01:05:32.110 --> 01:05:35.570
um did you see the like the guy who does like

01:05:35.570 --> 01:05:39.789
um the apartment tours usually in new york he

01:05:39.789 --> 01:05:43.829
did a an episode with rob and he like came in

01:05:43.829 --> 01:05:47.929
his overalls and everything i loved that oh so

01:05:47.929 --> 01:05:56.119
cute what are you looking for No, this is this

01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:59.960
was a good season of The Traitors. Like, yeah,

01:06:00.099 --> 01:06:03.679
good, good, good, good, good. Start to finish.

01:06:03.780 --> 01:06:07.340
Dare I say the first season with sexual tension?

01:06:09.579 --> 01:06:15.380
I agree. Yeah, I agree. And like I said this

01:06:15.380 --> 01:06:17.820
when we were first talking about it and I will

01:06:17.820 --> 01:06:21.840
say it again. I didn't know. who everyone was

01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:24.519
on the cast. I didn't know how they all fit together,

01:06:24.699 --> 01:06:28.300
but I trust the producers at NBC Universal and

01:06:28.300 --> 01:06:32.699
Peacock. And I, I was not wrong. They had a vision

01:06:32.699 --> 01:06:35.800
and they ate down. I was excited about the cast.

01:06:36.139 --> 01:06:39.800
Like even the people I didn't really know or

01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:43.739
recognize the people that I did know, I was like,

01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:46.980
Ooh, this is going to be good. They really. had

01:06:46.980 --> 01:06:49.800
a vision this season loved it and the other thing

01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:52.519
too alan cumming did an interview with uh in

01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:54.860
style did you see this where he was like uh what

01:06:54.860 --> 01:06:57.000
was the quote people need to make more of a connection

01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.260
all the things you love about this show are queer

01:06:59.260 --> 01:07:02.719
gay gay gay and spirit i did see this and i thought

01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:04.519
i was like that's so true because this show is

01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:08.480
camp like this show has no idea look at their

01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:13.179
host hello alan cumming by the way ate down every

01:07:13.179 --> 01:07:17.099
outfit this season He usually has a couple misses

01:07:17.099 --> 01:07:20.500
for me. Not this season. No, not one. No, he

01:07:20.500 --> 01:07:23.900
killed that. Or their wardrobe. I'm sure he has

01:07:23.900 --> 01:07:26.280
some say in it. But, like, their wardrobe is

01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:29.900
insane. You can tell, though, like, between season

01:07:29.900 --> 01:07:33.239
one and season two where, like, they said, we're

01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:36.760
just going to let him go buck wild. Yeah. Because,

01:07:36.860 --> 01:07:38.619
like, it's slowly becoming a little war on him.

01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:42.820
He can do no wrong in my eyes. He's so cunt.

01:07:42.980 --> 01:07:46.039
Oh, my God. But. This is a good first episode

01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:49.800
back. I had fun. I missed this. I'm also going

01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:55.079
to tell you, I love doing the podcast. I don't

01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:59.820
love it as much without you. I don't love not

01:07:59.820 --> 01:08:02.519
doing the podcast because I'm just in here by

01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:05.860
myself, losing my ever loving mind. And now I

01:08:05.860 --> 01:08:08.900
have somewhere to put my thoughts. Yeah. And

01:08:08.900 --> 01:08:11.869
I got to hold a baby during. The last few minutes

01:08:11.869 --> 01:08:14.090
of the traders talk and he was really good. So

01:08:14.090 --> 01:08:16.989
thanks a little. Just drooling everywhere. Just

01:08:16.989 --> 01:08:21.069
drooling. It's OK. His saliva glands just turned

01:08:21.069 --> 01:08:24.970
on or something. That's OK. Where is him going?

01:08:25.829 --> 01:08:29.170
Where is him going? But I will tell you from

01:08:29.170 --> 01:08:34.010
Indy to the traders castle to the highlands of

01:08:34.010 --> 01:08:36.430
Scotland. Isn't that where the traders castle

01:08:36.430 --> 01:08:46.729
is? Sorry. Okay. Love you, Scotland. We love

01:08:46.729 --> 01:08:50.210
you. We'll see you later. Bye. Say bye, Augie.