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Hi, I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is Bestie

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Approved. What's the last song you listened to?

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I was really tired this morning. And I needed...

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Honestly, all I was doing was getting coffee

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and driving home. But I needed something to wake

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me up. And so the last song on that list for

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me... Was Smack a Bitch by Rico Nasty. Thank

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God I had to smack a bitch today. That's good

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stuff. What was yours? Little Bit by Demi Lovato.

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Oh. Have you seen, like, she's really making

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a comeback. She really is. And, like. I love

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that for her. I'm really happy for her. I often

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find her annoying. but I love her and I want

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her to be successful. I, you know, I too desperately

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want her to be successful. And like, I think

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back to her song confident that like, I feel

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like marked very significant period of my life.

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Cause I listened to that just while I walk around

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sometimes, but I don't want to go back to the

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place where she's like, I went to this frozen

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yogurt place and it really ruined my day. That's,

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I just want to forget about that time. Yeah,

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I feel like she had a diva era. But, like, that's

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not even it for me. Just her personality is kind

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of annoying to me. But that's okay. Fair. That's

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okay. Not everybody has to like everybody. But

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I do really like the new album. Like, it's really

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good. And she, I guess. She's extremely talented.

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Very talented. I'll never take that away from

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her. She did a cover of I Want to Dance with

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Somebody. Have you seen that on TikTok? Yeah.

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Oh, my God. It's so good. And, like, I can't

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find it anywhere. like i don't think she released

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it i think it was just like a sound on tiktok

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which i'm mad about because it's so good she

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probably has to get all kinds of releases from

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whitney's team and yeah that's probably i think

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the last one they really did was the uh higher

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love with kygo or like that was the last one

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they allowed to like yeah get really because

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i can't think of any other song that like has

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been remixed or whatever or like covered but

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yeah that was even Whitney's voice still it's

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probably even harder to like come out with a

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true cover right and the thing about the Kygo

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remix of that song was like you could tell that

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it was like I loved that song but you could tell

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it was someone that really loved Whitney Houston

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doing it I feel like he probably had to like

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go through a lot of levels of approval to like

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prove himself for that A hundred percent. He

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probably already had to make the song. They had

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to hear it before they even started. Yes, probably.

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But I'm glad he got it because that was a good

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song. Do you have any pregnancy updates? Oh,

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boy. Yeah. OK, so I'm 35 weeks today. So next

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week is 36 weeks, which is technically. Full

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term, like he wouldn't be a premature baby anymore.

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And I have an ultrasound next Friday that will

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determine if I need to be induced early or get

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a C -section. or what have you. And I was supposed

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to go straight from the ultrasound to an OB appointment

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to like decide that and schedule that and whatever.

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And then they called me this very morning and

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rescheduled that for the following Wednesday,

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which is crazy to me because once you're full

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term, like 36 weeks, you're supposed to see your

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doctor once a week. So, whatever, whatever, whatever.

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But, yeah, this will be my last episode that

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we record until I go on hiatus. Hate it. Yeah,

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but this little boy could come any day. Yeah,

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that's fair. And by little, I mean giant. Also,

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I've come around to having a C -section. I think

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I'm okay with it. The way my OB looked me in

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my eyes and she was like, listen. She was like,

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so you're not as likely to tear the second time

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around, even if you had a bad tear the first

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time, which I did. But when you have a much larger

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baby, that changes everything. And she literally

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said these words to me, Travis. She says. If

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I were you, I would be worried about my butthole.

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And I said, okay, yeah, perhaps a C -section.

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But like, it'll be fine. When you have like a

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planned C -section instead of like an emergency

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C -section or anything like that. It's like very

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straightforward from what I understand. Right.

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Because it's like going in for like a standard

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surgery versus like needing a surgery immediately.

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Yeah. And so I'm not excited. I saw a woman on

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TikTok say it feels like they're washing dishes

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inside your intestines. But that's still better

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to me than having one hole. Or like the baby

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can dislocate their shoulder on the way out.

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There's all kinds of things that happen when

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you have a giant baby. Well, so I I think if

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people need a C -section, go get a C -section.

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I don't think there needs to be any like rationalization

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of it. For me, though, I. I cannot imagine pushing

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a fucking watermelon out of my cooch like that.

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Well, like I did it with Jack and it sucked.

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It did. And they had to get the vacuum and I

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had a third degree tear. For those of you who

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know what that is, it it wasn't great. Right.

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And like the recovery also was not great because

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my doctor literally lost count of how many stitches

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he had to put in down there. Hate that a lot.

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Yeah, he finished up and I said, how many stitches

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do I have? And he said, oh, I, I don't know.

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It's not the same thing, but it's like putting

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together like an Ikea bed and you're like, I

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have like six extra screws here and I don't know

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what to do with it. And that's not my problem.

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And I love that doctor. That doctor was like

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our primary care physician, too, for a long time.

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But he was also an OB. He's a very smart guy.

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And he just they're dissolving stitches. So like

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he wasn't he didn't need to count. Oh, fair.

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OK. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. That wasn't great.

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The recovery wasn't great. But I was so scared

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of a C -section and its recovery until. She recommended

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it. She told me a few weeks ago that if I want

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to elect to have a C -section, I can do that.

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But now she's like gradually recommending it

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more. So I've made my peace with it. I think

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that's fine. Do you, do they put you to sleep

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for a C -section? No. Oh, no. See, that's where

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I draw the line. They put a curtain at like your

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waist so you can't see anything happening. I

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feel like I remember Logan telling me this. Yes,

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I think. OK. But you're awake. You're awake the

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whole time. And they say you don't feel pain,

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but you feel pressure and you can feel that they're

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inside your stomach. which is horrifying to me.

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It's something I would never get over. Yeah,

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so that experience was one thing that was really

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turning me off. The other thing that really sucks

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is you can't, like, twist for two weeks, which

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means you can't drive. And that doesn't sound

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like a big deal, but I drive Jack to and from

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school every day. I was literally about to say,

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yeah. Yeah, so it's like I have to organize rides

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for him. I'll take him to school. Lots of people

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will, and I'm sure that I'll organize it all

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and it'll all be fine and great. It's just like

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the anxiety of all of it. Yeah. And there's like

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a whole thing in my mind right now about not

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wanting Jack to suffer because of this is like

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a good experience for him. He'll feel better

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about having a brother and sharing attention

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and that type of thing. I don't know. So this

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is the thing. I was never worried about Jack

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being a big brother because I do think at the

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end of the day, Jack will be a phenomenal big

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brother. I do think that he will have a hard

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time with the switch and dynamics because he's

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so used to being the center of attention. And

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like and he's he's a natural performer and he

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like loves the spotlight. And I think he will.

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I think for a little bit, I'll struggle with

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like sharing the spotlight, but I think that

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it'll be a really good growing thing for him.

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Yeah. And I knew it would be an adjustment regardless.

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And that's why I don't. I don't want to make

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it so he's, like, late to school every day, too.

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And has to go to the office because whoever was

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supposed to pick him up in the afternoon was

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late, too. And all of that. Because I just feel

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like that'll stress him out more. Sure. And he'll

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just not have a good time. So, I'm stressed about

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that right now. But that should only last for

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two weeks. And then I'll be able to drive again.

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But I still won't be cleared to, like, exercise

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or anything for... It's like... It's six months

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afterwards, right? Well, I thought so with a

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C -section, but apparently not. It's like six

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to eight weeks. Like, is it like a like, you

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know how when they like replace your hip or whatever,

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like any surgery, like with a knee replacement

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or whatever, they want you up and walking like

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almost immediately after one of those kind of

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situations where they're like trying to get you

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back into things quicker than like you would

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think is normal. No, six weeks is the same amount

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of time for giving birth. Okay. Vaginally, for

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lack of a better term. And I thought you went

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from like a six -week recovery to like a six

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-month recovery if you got a C -section, but

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apparently that's not true. Huh. I don't know.

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I'm sure it takes a long time for that incision

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to heal all the way through, though, because

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they like have to cut through the muscle. They're

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like in there. Yeah. Yeah. Like you're literally

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getting chopped in half. Um, so that's the update.

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Also, this man has his head, like, in the circle

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of my pelvis. And it hurts so bad. Ew. It hurts

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so bad. Baby August, what are you doing? I know.

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He, like, won't move up. And actually, he can't

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move up because he will have both his head in

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my pelvis and his feet kicking my ribs at the

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same time. I have to tell you, the miracle of

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life is truly a miracle. I'm so happy. I love

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him so much. But God damn it. Why does it have

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to be so hard? You would think we would have

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evolved to make this easier. But no. No. Even

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God hates women. Cut that out. I don't mean that.

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Okay. So speaking of babies, have you seen. And

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this is like a common thing that like pops up

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on my TikTok is these seed oil fucks going into

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like a Meyer or Kroger or wherever and telling

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people that baby formula is basically poison

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and like you're going to kill your baby. Have

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you seen these? No, but that really pisses me

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off. Did you watch the TikTok that I like put

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in the link? Yes. Did it piss you off? Yeah,

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because here's the thing with Jack. I tried to

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breastfeed. I wanted to breastfeed, and I couldn't.

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So if all formula is poison, I have two sides

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of this. With Jack, this is what happened. If

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all formula is poison, your solution to me is

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to either pay hundreds of thousands of dollars

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at the end of the day for someone else's breast

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milk, which is weird to me, and I didn't have

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any money at the time. Or number two, starve

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my child. Like, are those your solutions for

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me? Well, no, there's a magical third solution.

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If your body isn't producing breast milk and

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you don't want to use someone else's breast milk.

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This this guy, the seed oil fuck was on there

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like selling like peddling his goods. Oh, yeah.

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And this is the other thing that makes me mad

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is at the end of the day, like unless you're

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smoking crack. I don't give a fuck what you're

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feeding your baby like as long as like the baby's

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healthy and like you're doing everything you

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can to like just to do right by your kid that's

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nobody else's fucking business and if you have

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to get like whatever powder you put into milk

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to make it baby formula that's nobody else's

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business because there are an exceedingly high

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number of mothers who simply cannot produce breast

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milk like it's it's not and i think the gross

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thing is like people don't talk about that because

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there there's like a level of shame around it

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like i talked to my sister -in -law about this

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and yeah she said hang on i'll read this because

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i sent her this video i said i just want to know

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like what your thoughts are about this. And she

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said, fed is best. That's it. Uh, so my niece

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was strictly breastfed and my nephew was breast

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and formula fed. There's fundamentally no difference

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between the two of them. And then formula is

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so closely monitored and regulated. It's actually

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safer for a lot of babies with allergies and

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dietary restrictions. And these people out here

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like peddling ignorance and fear mongering is

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at its finest and it's irritating as fuck. Like

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there, there's no, it's bad. It's bad. I did

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see a TikTok of a teacher speaking up and being

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like, hey, I can't tell if your child was breastfed

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or formula fed. I can't tell the difference.

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You know what I can tell? If you've never read

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a book with your kid before. Oh, see? It's like,

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just take care of your kid. Every doctor, every

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nurse I've ever run into has always said fed

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is best. If you can't breastfeed, don't. And

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I cried and cried and cried and cried when I

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couldn't breastfeed Jack anymore because like

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my supply just ran out. I was under undue trauma

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with his dad and the stress was insane. And I

00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:43.980
literally just wasn't producing breast milk anymore.

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And like. You don't even need to have that excuse.

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Whatever it is, if you're just not producing

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milk for whatever reason. Or if you just don't

00:15:52.090 --> 00:15:54.389
want to breastfeed your kid. Like, that's okay,

00:15:54.470 --> 00:15:57.309
too. There are some parents who never even try

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to breastfeed. And that's fine. Why are we telling

00:16:00.669 --> 00:16:03.590
them what to do? Yeah. I don't understand it.

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From the other side, though, Kenny doesn't like

00:16:07.809 --> 00:16:09.850
seed oils. We know this. We've talked about this.

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Which is mostly fine. You know, to avoid deep

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fried things because you don't like canola oil,

00:16:17.259 --> 00:16:24.580
whatever. Sure. Okay. So we looked at, because

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I think that I would like to have a can of formula

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in the house just in case something happens.

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And like, I don't want it to be a whole thing.

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I can't feed the baby. So we looked up, like,

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are there any seed oil free formulas on the market

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at all? really aren't you would have to import

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it from the uk okay which is crazy but also feature

00:16:53.289 --> 00:17:00.309
kid so here's i i want to know where the root

00:17:00.309 --> 00:17:04.049
of this seed oil argument is like because if

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it's truly like yeah we we don't want to be having

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a ton of like deep fried uh saturated fats great

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i can get behind that i don't know if that's

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what it is it's not it's something to do with

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honestly i tune them out so much and maybe i

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should listen but it's something to do with the

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process of how it's created it's something like

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like a table of sunflower a tablespoon of sunflower

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oil is like 6 ,000 sunflower seeds or something

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insane like that. And so it's like you're ingesting

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a lot of calories and carbs that you're not meaning

00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:52.980
to. I don't know. Listen, whatever. I'm not going

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to tell people what to do. If you don't want

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to eat seed oils, don't. But like if a baby needs

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formula, we don't have any other option right

00:18:02.460 --> 00:18:06.549
now. Right. So feed your kid. Yeah. That's where

00:18:06.549 --> 00:18:11.369
I'm at with it. That is best. And that saying,

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by the way, is a riff off of people who used

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to say, breast is best. Oh. Mm -hmm. It used

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to be. Well, I'm glad people took that back,

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honestly. Breast is best, which put nothing but

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stress on new moms. And by the way, stress is

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like the number one factor that can make your

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milk supply go away. Yeah. Your body will stop

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producing milk because it's so stress. I have

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to tell you, I don't know. I know I was not breastfed.

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I know none of my cousins were breastfed. I know

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Zachary wasn't breastfed. And so for me, I'm

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like, we all turned out just fine. Like. I like

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the whole the whole argument for me is to to

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like put this like. image of like what you think

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a mother should be is like a baby factory and

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like only taking care of her babies like i think

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it comes from a deeply misogynistic place and

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i don't like it but i do i do appreciate that

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there's a her name is dr jess and she's a real

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doctor out here and she's like kind of combating

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all these seed oil fucks like in the in the baby

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formula aisle and like i really appreciate that

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she does that because i do think it's a message

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a lot of moms need to hear. Like, hey, you're

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doing your best and that's okay. That's all you

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can do. And listen, props to the moms who go

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back to work when their baby is six weeks old

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and take time out of their day to pump. That's

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insane. And I am so happy for you. And you are

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really doing the thing that does not take away

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from moms who have decided formula is best for

00:19:57.299 --> 00:19:59.619
them and their baby. Because the other thing

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is, if you're up pumping every three hours all

00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:08.460
night. long, then baby has a tired mom. And I

00:20:08.460 --> 00:20:11.299
thought we didn't like that either. So like,

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come on. See, this is where I start to get mad

00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:15.940
at the argument because I'm just like, it doesn't

00:20:15.940 --> 00:20:19.500
matter what women do. You're not doing it right.

00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:23.880
Yeah. And that pisses me off. As a new mom, that

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was so hard on me because I was like constantly

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feeling like I was doing a horrible job because

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that's how they want you to feel. And by them,

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I mean misogynistic men. They want you to feel

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like you are never doing enough for your child.

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If you have not literally moved a mountain today

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and breastfed and gotten 10 hours of sleep, you're

00:20:48.299 --> 00:20:53.400
fucking up your kid. It's insane. Yeah, it pisses

00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:56.759
me off. Kind of on the same subject. We don't

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even have to talk about it. You can cut this.

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No, I want to hear it. Night nurses. Oh yes.

00:21:02.220 --> 00:21:04.400
You did look this up. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God.

00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:06.700
Okay. So there's this TikToker who I love. I'm

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not even going to say her name because I don't

00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.920
want her to get like literally one hate comment

00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:14.880
about it. She has a lot of money. She has started

00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.900
her own cannabis brands years ago. And she's

00:21:18.900 --> 00:21:23.359
like, I love her. She has a ton of money though.

00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:28.079
She like lives a very nice life. She has a Prada

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diaper bag. Right. cunt whatever she was talking

00:21:33.230 --> 00:21:35.750
about her night nurse and I respect her for this

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and she was like she gave the hourly wage I don't

00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:43.509
even remember what that was she gave the hours

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minimum which was like 12 which I whatever For

00:21:50.500 --> 00:21:52.700
you to have a night nurse, which is, for those

00:21:52.700 --> 00:21:54.960
of you who don't know, is someone who, like,

00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.779
feeds the baby at night and gets them back to

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sleep and basically does everything you need

00:22:00.259 --> 00:22:04.980
to do except for create breast milk. It's $500

00:22:04.980 --> 00:22:12.599
a night. Which is insane. That's $3 ,500 a week.

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And everyone I've seen have a night nurse has

00:22:16.059 --> 00:22:21.230
them for months. Yeah. Like, that's crazy to

00:22:21.230 --> 00:22:25.150
me. If I could afford it, would I do it? 100%.

00:22:25.150 --> 00:22:29.710
I can't think of anyone that wouldn't. Because

00:22:29.710 --> 00:22:32.509
you kind of have the best of both worlds there.

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You have someone who ostensibly loves your kid,

00:22:38.109 --> 00:22:42.009
who is all in taking care of it, and then you're

00:22:42.009 --> 00:22:43.829
well -rested enough to take care of it the other

00:22:43.829 --> 00:22:47.970
12 hours a day. Yeah, 100%. And that's the hardest

00:22:47.970 --> 00:22:52.509
part for me about having a baby is like you are

00:22:52.509 --> 00:22:56.170
so exhausted all the time. It's not even just

00:22:56.170 --> 00:22:58.990
at night. And then you're waking up every three

00:22:58.990 --> 00:23:02.869
hours, literally all day, every single day. You're

00:23:02.869 --> 00:23:05.789
both tired. You're both fussy. And then you have

00:23:05.789 --> 00:23:08.450
to worry about are they getting enough tummy

00:23:08.450 --> 00:23:11.970
time? Are they stimulated? Are they eating enough?

00:23:12.069 --> 00:23:14.650
Are they eating too much? Blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:23:14.690 --> 00:23:17.339
blah. So it's like. That would literally be a

00:23:17.339 --> 00:23:20.000
lifesaver for so many people, but there's no

00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:25.539
way. No. There's no way. Yeah. I wouldn't do

00:23:25.539 --> 00:23:27.799
it. It couldn't be me. I mean, obviously you

00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.779
don't like pay that forever because like you

00:23:30.779 --> 00:23:33.420
don't need one after a few months. But there

00:23:33.420 --> 00:23:38.660
comes a point where it's like, I don't, I love

00:23:38.660 --> 00:23:41.099
the idea of it. I don't love the idea that you

00:23:41.099 --> 00:23:43.380
have to pay $3 ,500 a week for it. And like,

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Right. And granted, it's a thing that like almost

00:23:47.349 --> 00:23:50.670
no one gets. Like it's something that is not

00:23:50.670 --> 00:23:52.950
reserved for like an exclusive group of people,

00:23:52.990 --> 00:23:55.990
but it's something that very few people can afford.

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Yeah, 100 percent. And I don't know. It's just

00:24:00.190 --> 00:24:02.890
like. I appreciate her, like, saying, like, this

00:24:02.890 --> 00:24:05.829
is the reality of it. Like, it's a lot of money.

00:24:05.930 --> 00:24:08.390
Right. And, like, I'm sure she's probably taking

00:24:08.390 --> 00:24:10.410
care of the nurse, like, in a lot of ways other

00:24:10.410 --> 00:24:12.250
than, like, just financially. I'm sure, like,

00:24:12.369 --> 00:24:15.329
there's food. She's leaving food out. Yeah. Making

00:24:15.329 --> 00:24:17.849
sure they're all cozy and comfy all night long.

00:24:17.910 --> 00:24:23.509
Sure. And she's, yeah. She also, I feel like,

00:24:23.509 --> 00:24:25.950
needed to do that because she has, like, had

00:24:25.950 --> 00:24:29.890
such a quick. recovery it feels like like she's

00:24:29.890 --> 00:24:32.329
already taken her baby out a few times when the

00:24:32.329 --> 00:24:36.230
baby's like a few weeks old and she's like going

00:24:36.230 --> 00:24:38.990
back to the gym doing very light exercise when

00:24:38.990 --> 00:24:41.890
the baby's only a few weeks old and it's like

00:24:41.890 --> 00:24:44.769
i think people lose the plot really quickly of

00:24:44.769 --> 00:24:47.210
like well why am i not doing that why am i not

00:24:47.210 --> 00:24:50.430
doing that and it's like Ma 'am, you haven't

00:24:50.430 --> 00:24:53.490
slept more than two hours straight in the past

00:24:53.490 --> 00:24:55.910
month. And that whole thing for me is, like,

00:24:55.970 --> 00:24:58.309
I don't think that there is a standard of, like,

00:24:58.410 --> 00:25:03.049
what normal is. But, like, for me, like, in my

00:25:03.049 --> 00:25:06.130
mind, I don't know, as long as, like, you're

00:25:06.130 --> 00:25:08.970
back to, like, doing some semblance of normalcy,

00:25:08.990 --> 00:25:10.450
like, by the time your kid's in kindergarten,

00:25:10.730 --> 00:25:14.609
like, I don't know. Yeah. Because there's, like,

00:25:14.690 --> 00:25:17.799
four or five years there where you... Have to

00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:21.200
like adjust for life with an extra person there.

00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:24.819
Yeah. Babies are hell bent on killing themselves.

00:25:25.220 --> 00:25:29.940
So you literally have to change your whole life

00:25:29.940 --> 00:25:33.579
to monitor them. And on top of that, they say

00:25:33.579 --> 00:25:38.579
your body takes three years to recover from having

00:25:38.579 --> 00:25:44.200
a baby. So it's like you don't have to be. Doing

00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.640
what the influencers do are going to get a tummy

00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:49.319
tuck the minute you're cleared to exercise or

00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:54.680
doing what you see online or in magazines or

00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:57.819
any of that, because it's like not real. Yeah.

00:25:57.900 --> 00:26:01.059
Like that is a whole different class of people.

00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:05.680
Yeah, I think you're right. And that's hard for

00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:09.319
a mom. That's hard. It's hard for anyone, but

00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:11.480
like for especially for someone that just gave

00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:18.720
birth, I think that's. crazy but um on the note

00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:24.559
of things that are healthy um have you you haven't

00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:26.180
seen this i already asked you about this but

00:26:26.180 --> 00:26:29.420
there's a new pyramid scheme floating around

00:26:29.420 --> 00:26:34.700
on tiktok where they're marketing it as nutraceuticals

00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:38.539
and like i i'm gonna preface this by saying this

00:26:38.539 --> 00:26:40.839
is not about like what anyone chooses to do with

00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:42.819
their health it's simply about like the pyramid

00:26:42.819 --> 00:26:46.920
scheme situation and i do think there is something

00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.099
to be said for yeah like the standard american

00:26:50.099 --> 00:26:54.180
diet is not great like comparatively with the

00:26:54.180 --> 00:26:56.440
rest of the world but i think if you look holistically

00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:58.660
at like why are we unhealthy as americans i think

00:26:58.660 --> 00:27:02.650
it all comes back to we do nothing but bend over

00:27:02.650 --> 00:27:05.269
for the most powerful industries in the world,

00:27:05.309 --> 00:27:07.430
which are the most powerful industries in food,

00:27:07.549 --> 00:27:13.150
which are beef and dairy. And we do not have

00:27:13.150 --> 00:27:14.750
universal health care. Like, I think those are

00:27:14.750 --> 00:27:16.990
the two biggest problems are the diet and the

00:27:16.990 --> 00:27:21.119
health care. Right. So you have. These people

00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.619
on TikTok peddling whatever bullshit they're

00:27:23.619 --> 00:27:25.519
peddling about like, oh, if you take this pill,

00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:27.599
everything's going to be great. But it's the

00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.059
same song and dance over and over and over again.

00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:32.279
And I saw like I'm not I'm not exaggerating like

00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:36.279
19 TikTok lives yesterday of like, well, this

00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.099
is like what I was going through. And like your

00:27:38.099 --> 00:27:41.400
body becomes insulin resistant over time. And

00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:43.579
it's. It's not your fault. It's your doctor's

00:27:43.579 --> 00:27:45.799
fault. You don't understand because you you didn't

00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:47.500
go to medical school, but these doctors, they're

00:27:47.500 --> 00:27:49.799
hiding it from you. So like they make the doctors

00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.480
the bad guy. And it's it's this it's this cult

00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.759
mentality where like the outsiders are bad and

00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:56.779
like we have the answer and you should listen

00:27:56.779 --> 00:27:58.779
to us. And this is what pisses me off every time

00:27:58.779 --> 00:28:00.579
is like, OK, so you're preying on people's health.

00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:04.579
Great. Got it. So. The doctors are bad. And then

00:28:04.579 --> 00:28:06.660
I'm going to tell you my story about like how

00:28:06.660 --> 00:28:09.799
I was insulin resistant and my kidneys were failing

00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:11.960
and I went to the doctor. And it's so interesting

00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.759
that 19 people in a row had the exact same story

00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:16.660
and the exact same health problems. It's it's

00:28:16.660 --> 00:28:21.480
fascinating to me. But then they all have this

00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.599
like they all have like a group of mentors and

00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:26.299
the same mentor showed up on two of them, which

00:28:26.299 --> 00:28:28.539
is what tells me it is absolutely this pyramid

00:28:28.539 --> 00:28:33.009
scheme. And so I got to the point where I. commented

00:28:33.009 --> 00:28:35.150
on I think the third one I saw and I was like

00:28:35.150 --> 00:28:38.009
that's funny you have the same story that two

00:28:38.009 --> 00:28:40.509
other people on here have and you're using the

00:28:40.509 --> 00:28:43.190
exact same verbiage and you're all like you're

00:28:43.190 --> 00:28:45.349
all covering up the way you say different brand

00:28:45.349 --> 00:28:47.970
names so you don't get sued it's so funny to

00:28:47.970 --> 00:28:49.730
me and then she said what are you trying to say

00:28:49.730 --> 00:28:51.549
Travis like tried to call me out in this live

00:28:51.549 --> 00:28:53.750
like where she got by the way like 64 people

00:28:53.750 --> 00:28:57.930
in it it was not a huge live and I finally just

00:28:57.930 --> 00:28:59.069
got to the point where I was like, it's a fucking

00:28:59.069 --> 00:29:00.569
pyramid scheme. Just say you're on a pyramid

00:29:00.569 --> 00:29:02.329
scheme. Like, it's OK. Just tell us you're in

00:29:02.329 --> 00:29:03.470
a pyramid scheme. Tell us you're going to sell

00:29:03.470 --> 00:29:05.309
us an opportunity and like, let's go on with

00:29:05.309 --> 00:29:09.750
our days. And yeah, so I got I got in a TikTok

00:29:09.750 --> 00:29:14.190
live fight over an MLM and like. Here's the thing.

00:29:15.809 --> 00:29:19.769
Go on her TikTok and scroll down two years. I

00:29:19.769 --> 00:29:23.329
bet you don't find her sick. No, you never do.

00:29:23.490 --> 00:29:27.279
I bet you don't. This is this is what pisses

00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:32.240
me off. It's like we used to work with someone

00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:37.779
like this who would tell a story, tell a very

00:29:37.779 --> 00:29:39.660
emotional story. You know exactly what I'm talking

00:29:39.660 --> 00:29:43.779
about, where it's it was to sell long term care

00:29:43.779 --> 00:29:47.039
insurance. And it was I'm going to tell you this

00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.759
story about like how this person was on death's

00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.420
door and I sold them this long term care policy

00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:56.660
and then it changed their family's lives. Do

00:29:56.660 --> 00:30:00.000
you know what I came to figure out? That's true.

00:30:00.180 --> 00:30:03.380
That story was bullshit. Of course it is. That

00:30:03.380 --> 00:30:07.539
person didn't exist. I'm sure they didn't. I

00:30:07.539 --> 00:30:11.099
never thought they did. Like, here's the thing.

00:30:12.250 --> 00:30:15.269
I don't have anything against salespeople. Salespeople

00:30:15.269 --> 00:30:18.990
try to sell whatever. I do have something against

00:30:18.990 --> 00:30:23.990
you using sickness as a scare tactic. I agree.

00:30:24.829 --> 00:30:27.930
In order to sell something. There has to be a

00:30:27.930 --> 00:30:30.450
way to sell your liver pills or whatever the

00:30:30.450 --> 00:30:34.539
fuck and peddle them out without. pretending

00:30:34.539 --> 00:30:37.619
that you used to be chronically ill because there

00:30:37.619 --> 00:30:40.059
are people out there who are literally chronically

00:30:40.059 --> 00:30:43.420
ill and looking for any type of solution and

00:30:43.420 --> 00:30:47.579
here you are miss dumbass promising them something

00:30:47.579 --> 00:30:50.220
you cannot deliver right well and that's the

00:30:50.220 --> 00:30:52.200
sick thing that like makes me so mad is like

00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:57.000
you you're not even marketing to like fixable

00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.380
problems like sure some of these problems that

00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:01.980
like mlms like do go after are fixable but like

00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:06.759
it The way these people capitalize on big black

00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.920
holes of money pits where it's like we at some

00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:13.039
point we can come back and say either a you didn't

00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:15.579
do everything right or be the problem was bigger

00:31:15.579 --> 00:31:18.000
than we knew and we did everything we could.

00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:20.059
But like it's a problem bigger than us. And then

00:31:20.059 --> 00:31:22.480
they dissolve the amount or dissolve the LLC

00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.339
and there's nothing to come after. It's sick.

00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:27.480
Like you were you were coming after people that

00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:33.630
are desperate for any answer. And yeah, I should

00:31:33.630 --> 00:31:37.490
have stayed shampoo and caffeinated drinks. Yeah.

00:31:37.569 --> 00:31:40.230
Why are we trying to say we can fix people's

00:31:40.230 --> 00:31:44.529
health? It's insane. It's insane. But that's

00:31:44.529 --> 00:31:46.369
the other interesting thing is like they'll never

00:31:46.369 --> 00:31:49.609
say they can fix it. They say they have a solution

00:31:49.609 --> 00:31:53.089
to part of the problem. And and this is where

00:31:53.089 --> 00:31:55.529
like the studying for the LSAT and like the whole

00:31:55.529 --> 00:31:57.329
thing comes in for me is like you start listening

00:31:57.329 --> 00:32:00.329
for these like key things of like, oh. You're

00:32:00.329 --> 00:32:02.950
like the woman I'm thinking of, like she kept

00:32:02.950 --> 00:32:05.269
saying Starbucks because she like it was blaming

00:32:05.269 --> 00:32:07.069
sugar for a lot of the problems that like come

00:32:07.069 --> 00:32:08.650
from insulin resistance, whatever. And granted,

00:32:08.690 --> 00:32:12.049
sugar is a problem like it is a big problem.

00:32:12.130 --> 00:32:14.529
But she kept saying Starbucks instead of Starbucks.

00:32:14.690 --> 00:32:17.670
So like she couldn't get sued by the Starbucks

00:32:17.670 --> 00:32:21.029
coffee company. They also do that all over TikTok

00:32:21.029 --> 00:32:23.490
as if everyone's going to sue them everywhere

00:32:23.490 --> 00:32:26.549
or like TikTok is going to take them down if

00:32:26.549 --> 00:32:30.420
they say. target or something yeah like it's

00:32:30.420 --> 00:32:33.019
that's weird can we stop doing that it is weird

00:32:33.019 --> 00:32:36.000
and like i think this speaks to a bigger problem

00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:40.299
of like you know what you are doing is unethical

00:32:40.299 --> 00:32:44.279
you you have you on some level have to know there's

00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.720
liability here there is some legal implication

00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:50.400
or there is an ethical concern here that's why

00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.579
i'm dancing around it and you're still willing

00:32:52.579 --> 00:32:54.480
to do it for money you're you are a soulless

00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:56.619
fuck you have nothing to offer this society and

00:32:56.619 --> 00:32:58.740
you're a bad person yeah sorry queen you need

00:32:58.740 --> 00:33:02.980
to go work at the star books because this is

00:33:02.980 --> 00:33:05.980
not paying your bills oh god but yeah that pissed

00:33:05.980 --> 00:33:10.380
me off and then i fell down another rabbit hole

00:33:10.380 --> 00:33:13.410
have you Did you ever watch that documentary

00:33:13.410 --> 00:33:17.650
with Roberta Blevins about the leggings? No.

00:33:17.710 --> 00:33:20.430
I think it was on Amazon Prime. I, like, started

00:33:20.430 --> 00:33:22.269
listening to her podcast again because I was

00:33:22.269 --> 00:33:24.190
like, oh, I forgot how much I love learning about,

00:33:24.210 --> 00:33:25.970
like, cults and, like, MLMs because they're the

00:33:25.970 --> 00:33:28.589
exact same thing. Oh, they are, yeah. And I,

00:33:28.650 --> 00:33:29.950
like, started listening to her podcast again

00:33:29.950 --> 00:33:35.069
and I fell deep into it. But, yeah. What else?

00:33:35.089 --> 00:33:37.230
What else is on the list today? Have you heard

00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:40.480
about the song about stealing an F -16? Are you

00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:42.599
on that side of TikTok? What? What are you even

00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.660
talking about? There's a song. I'm going to clip

00:33:45.660 --> 00:33:49.099
it in here because, A, I bought new software

00:33:49.099 --> 00:33:51.099
for the podcast. So, like, you're going to hear

00:33:51.099 --> 00:33:56.819
a lot more sound clips coming in. And B, I think

00:33:56.819 --> 00:33:58.880
it's because I'm on Blue Pill TikTok where it's

00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:02.839
like. Oh, my God. I just, like, didn't even see

00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:06.019
that bullet point. That's so weird. It's great.

00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.929
Okay. I'm going to let you listen to it for a

00:34:10.929 --> 00:34:26.230
second. I hate to be this person. What the fuck

00:34:26.230 --> 00:34:34.010
is an F -16? A fighter jet. Oh. So for those

00:34:34.010 --> 00:34:37.510
of you who don't know, it's it's a song where

00:34:37.510 --> 00:34:42.750
I think it. it's it's come out of like political

00:34:42.750 --> 00:34:46.650
discourse tiktok we're like we're we're in a

00:34:46.650 --> 00:34:51.929
weird place societally and i think like i don't

00:34:51.929 --> 00:34:53.650
know if someone said he was gonna steal an f

00:34:53.650 --> 00:35:00.070
-16 but like quickly after the whole the the

00:35:00.070 --> 00:35:02.670
militarization of ice and all this like we started

00:35:02.670 --> 00:35:04.889
getting there's a song about stealing an f -16

00:35:04.889 --> 00:35:07.190
there's a song about stealing an apache jet and

00:35:07.190 --> 00:35:11.269
like they're so fucking catchy i haven't seen

00:35:11.269 --> 00:35:13.050
these like at all i could listen to them all

00:35:13.050 --> 00:35:17.409
day long i love these songs not my vibe but tonally

00:35:17.409 --> 00:35:21.389
but i get it but you can see why i like it sure

00:35:21.389 --> 00:35:27.179
um You and I both woke up in fuck -ass moods

00:35:27.179 --> 00:35:29.659
on Friday. I wake up in a fuck -ass mood every

00:35:29.659 --> 00:35:33.000
day. I hate waking up. And also, I can't sleep

00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.199
through the night. I wake up like five times

00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:38.019
a night. I will say last night, one of them was

00:35:38.019 --> 00:35:40.559
worth it. I woke up because Kenny was laughing

00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:43.000
and talking in his sleep. And Kenny does this

00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.219
thing in his sleep where he is speaking neither

00:35:45.219 --> 00:35:50.179
English nor Viet. It's just gibberish. Really?

00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:56.929
So he'll be like... It's like, what are you doing?

00:35:57.650 --> 00:36:00.210
Um, very entertaining, but yeah, I can't sleep

00:36:00.210 --> 00:36:02.690
through the night. And so I've been waking up

00:36:02.690 --> 00:36:04.650
in a fuck ass mood every day, but also I caught

00:36:04.650 --> 00:36:07.570
this cold flu thing that's going around. So yeah.

00:36:07.909 --> 00:36:13.289
Yeah. So Friday, I, I don't know what my problem

00:36:13.289 --> 00:36:19.849
was, but like, I woke up, I, Emma and I were

00:36:19.849 --> 00:36:22.829
supposed to record on Friday and like, And that

00:36:22.829 --> 00:36:25.269
comes after the Wednesday where we were supposed

00:36:25.269 --> 00:36:26.969
to record. And I was moving through the entire

00:36:26.969 --> 00:36:29.690
day, believing it was Tuesday. And Emma text

00:36:29.690 --> 00:36:32.329
me at three o 'clock in the afternoon being like,

00:36:32.429 --> 00:36:34.190
hey, is everything OK? Are we still recording?

00:36:34.389 --> 00:36:36.110
And I was like, what are you talking about? And

00:36:36.110 --> 00:36:38.090
then, like, I looked at my phone and I was like,

00:36:38.170 --> 00:36:43.710
fuck. And so I think that the bigger problem

00:36:43.710 --> 00:36:47.119
is. I was a thousand percent like I come down

00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:49.400
with like the like I wasn't the flu, but they

00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:54.800
were like I needed to sleep. And so I. We didn't

00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.099
record on Wednesday. I was like, let's report

00:36:56.099 --> 00:36:59.360
on Friday. Great pussy. Great. And then Friday

00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.559
rolls around. I wake up and I was like, I'm ready

00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.239
to kill someone like I'm ready to hit someone

00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.780
with my car. And I was just mad from the moment

00:37:06.780 --> 00:37:08.960
I woke up until the moment I said, I'm going

00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.980
to take back to the bed and go take a nap. I

00:37:10.980 --> 00:37:15.469
sleep for. Six more hours. And then I get back

00:37:15.469 --> 00:37:17.969
up and I was like, OK, like I'm an operating

00:37:17.969 --> 00:37:21.949
functioning person now. Saturday rolls around.

00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:29.170
I did absolutely nothing all day yesterday. I

00:37:29.170 --> 00:37:31.469
get up at like nine o 'clock in the morning.

00:37:31.530 --> 00:37:33.369
My dog's being too cute. I just tell him I love

00:37:33.369 --> 00:37:35.050
him so much. And I was like, let's go. Let's

00:37:35.050 --> 00:37:38.440
go get this day. I take Boomer to my dad's house

00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:40.420
to like so he can hang out with my dad and my

00:37:40.420 --> 00:37:42.079
dad's dog because like that's his favorite place.

00:37:42.860 --> 00:37:45.360
And I said, let me go get something to eat like

00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.679
this time. But like by this time, it's lunch

00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:51.320
ish time. I go get a little to go meal from Texas

00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:55.019
Roadhouse. I went back to bed and I slept for

00:37:55.019 --> 00:37:58.159
seven more hours. I wake up at like. probably

00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:01.900
nine o 'clock and i uh go back to my dad's house

00:38:01.900 --> 00:38:04.360
i get boomer and we just go back to bed and i

00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:08.619
love that i don't know what my problem was though

00:38:08.619 --> 00:38:13.920
like i you're sick what do you mean maybe i don't

00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.139
know i don't like to accept that i'm sick everyone

00:38:16.139 --> 00:38:19.980
in the indianapolis area right now has this virus

00:38:19.980 --> 00:38:24.420
and i mean everyone Everyone I've come into contact

00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:27.599
with at least knows someone who is sick right

00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:31.219
now. And it's insane. And that's definitely what

00:38:31.219 --> 00:38:34.239
this is. I will say the highest my temperature

00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.159
has gotten is like a hundred point line. It's

00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.179
not been like crazy. I'm just also pregnant.

00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:44.940
So I hate coughing and sneezing and all of it.

00:38:45.019 --> 00:38:48.980
I hate everything. I'm at the point in my pregnancy

00:38:48.980 --> 00:38:52.099
now where when I'm backing out of my driveway

00:38:52.099 --> 00:38:56.559
and a car is going down my road, I have to take

00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:06.639
a deep breath. I'm so angry. I get that. I'm

00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.380
so tired and I'm in pain all the time and I'm

00:39:10.380 --> 00:39:15.980
just like waddling around. I've had enough. We're

00:39:15.980 --> 00:39:18.679
almost there. Why are you on my street? How'd

00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:22.940
you get here? How did you get here? Please. And

00:39:22.940 --> 00:39:25.739
I'll be damned if I'm going to back into my driveway.

00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:30.360
No. No. I live here. A couple things. First of

00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:37.840
all, you shouldn't be backing into your driveway.

00:39:38.059 --> 00:39:41.139
That's exhausting. Do I think the feds are going

00:39:41.139 --> 00:39:45.969
to come? Like, what do I need? No, but also people

00:39:45.969 --> 00:39:48.590
should stay off my road. Yes. And every road

00:39:48.590 --> 00:39:51.510
that I'm driving on. Every road. Shut it down.

00:39:52.090 --> 00:39:57.170
Do you have anything to complain about? Endless

00:39:57.170 --> 00:39:59.809
things to complain about. Tell me. I did have

00:39:59.809 --> 00:40:01.349
something, but I didn't write it down. What was

00:40:01.349 --> 00:40:07.690
that? I don't remember. You do your complaining

00:40:07.690 --> 00:40:12.460
and I'll see if I remember. I'll go first. What

00:40:12.460 --> 00:40:15.659
in the actual fuck happened at Panera? Okay,

00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:17.659
I saw that that's what you were going to complain

00:40:17.659 --> 00:40:19.619
about. I have not had that experience. What the

00:40:19.619 --> 00:40:22.099
fuck are you talking about? The green tea, still

00:40:22.099 --> 00:40:25.420
delicious. Bread bowl of broccoli soup, still

00:40:25.420 --> 00:40:30.340
delicious. Chicken frontega sandwich, still delicious.

00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.380
Okay. And that's all I care about in this life.

00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:36.000
Also, their chocolate croissants in the morning.

00:40:37.260 --> 00:40:42.119
Ugh. They are sin. I love them. So maybe the

00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.719
one in Westfield is good, but I can tell you

00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:49.199
right now, the one in Broad Ripple, I did a mobile

00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.920
order for a chicken salad sandwich because it

00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:56.519
used to be better than nothing else. I loved

00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:00.840
the Panera chicken salad sandwich. I ordered

00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.940
on the Panera app. I was so excited. I was like,

00:41:04.980 --> 00:41:06.940
I haven't had one of these in like two years.

00:41:08.090 --> 00:41:12.550
I pick it up. It tasted like sand. Is it possible,

00:41:12.690 --> 00:41:14.829
my prince, that they have just reformulated the

00:41:14.829 --> 00:41:17.429
chicken salad? That's exactly what part of the

00:41:17.429 --> 00:41:21.309
problem is. It's disgusting. And so it takes

00:41:21.309 --> 00:41:24.630
up on the menu and reformulate stuff like every

00:41:24.630 --> 00:41:27.389
six months. Yes. And I think that's like, don't

00:41:27.389 --> 00:41:30.010
fuck with the chicken salad. Like chicken salad

00:41:30.010 --> 00:41:32.469
is one of those things where it's so simple.

00:41:32.530 --> 00:41:36.429
You need. Chicken, mayonnaise, grapes, and, like,

00:41:36.429 --> 00:41:37.889
whatever the fuck else goes into chicken salad.

00:41:37.969 --> 00:41:41.170
You don't need to fuck with it. Yeah. Like, it's

00:41:41.170 --> 00:41:44.590
a pretty tried and true thing, right? I like

00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:46.670
the Whole Foods chicken salad. I didn't know

00:41:46.670 --> 00:41:48.469
Whole Foods had chicken salad. Oh, yes, they

00:41:48.469 --> 00:41:49.849
do in their deli. I'll swing by and grab some.

00:41:51.369 --> 00:41:54.849
It has pecans and full grapes and celery. It's

00:41:54.849 --> 00:41:58.869
so good. I love that. Also, chicken salad is

00:41:58.869 --> 00:42:02.429
possibly the whitest food in America. And the

00:42:02.429 --> 00:42:04.489
first time I told Kenny I was craving chicken

00:42:04.489 --> 00:42:06.889
salad and he went to the store, he was like,

00:42:06.929 --> 00:42:10.289
I do not see any salads with chicken in them.

00:42:10.369 --> 00:42:12.849
And I said, oh, that's not what we're doing.

00:42:13.090 --> 00:42:15.289
It's different. He's disgusted by the thought

00:42:15.289 --> 00:42:17.289
of chicken salad, which is crazy. Oh, I love

00:42:17.289 --> 00:42:19.550
chicken salad. It's got to be like full chunks

00:42:19.550 --> 00:42:21.170
of chicken. This is the other problem is like

00:42:21.170 --> 00:42:24.409
Panera has taken the full like. chunks of chicken

00:42:24.409 --> 00:42:27.849
out and it's like shredded chicken it's always

00:42:27.849 --> 00:42:30.329
shredded chicken no it's not it has i swear to

00:42:30.329 --> 00:42:33.610
christ oh you mean it's like not okay i see what

00:42:33.610 --> 00:42:38.570
it's like strings of chicken it's not yeah you're

00:42:38.570 --> 00:42:43.130
getting robbed yeah and so i did some i took

00:42:43.130 --> 00:42:47.349
to tiktok and everyone else is saying this you

00:42:47.349 --> 00:42:49.730
are the only person i swear that has said panera

00:42:49.730 --> 00:42:53.510
is still good um Do you want to know what ruined

00:42:53.510 --> 00:42:56.269
it? What? Private equity. That's not surprising

00:42:56.269 --> 00:42:58.489
to me. Not even a little bit. Someone came in

00:42:58.489 --> 00:43:01.690
and acquired... So Panera has two different business

00:43:01.690 --> 00:43:05.070
models. It's like what a lot of fast, casual

00:43:05.070 --> 00:43:06.869
food places do, where you can have a franchise

00:43:06.869 --> 00:43:11.070
or a corporate -owned one, and a lot of them

00:43:11.070 --> 00:43:13.170
have become franchises, but the Panera brand

00:43:13.170 --> 00:43:16.050
was bought out by a private equity firm, and

00:43:16.050 --> 00:43:19.710
that's what ruined fucking everything about it.

00:43:21.260 --> 00:43:24.800
That really sucks. The one up here is great.

00:43:25.300 --> 00:43:27.760
They're building a new one literally down the

00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:31.239
street from me. Did you see that? Yeah. I'm so

00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:37.079
excited for it. I love it so much. I love Panera.

00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:40.639
It is comfort food for me. And so if either of

00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:44.059
those Paneras start not being good, I will die.

00:43:44.699 --> 00:43:48.880
I will pass away. It's infuriating. Also, I loved

00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:51.780
their heart attack lemonades. I loved them. I

00:43:51.780 --> 00:43:54.400
never tried them. But also, I'm pretty sure I

00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:56.860
have undiagnosed ADHD. And so they did not make

00:43:56.860 --> 00:43:59.099
me bounce off the walls or have tachycardia.

00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.539
Yeah, baby, you are a thousand percent ADHD.

00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:06.099
Right. So like they didn't do anything to me.

00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.920
I know that like everything is so much more dramatic

00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:13.139
hormonally and everything right now that like

00:44:13.139 --> 00:44:15.679
I feel like I've gotten confirmation that I'm

00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.860
ADHD because every morning I have a little coffee.

00:44:21.070 --> 00:44:23.889
And right after I drink that every morning, I'm

00:44:23.889 --> 00:44:28.849
like, damn, I need a nap every morning. It's

00:44:28.849 --> 00:44:30.789
the same thing with me. It's like after I take

00:44:30.789 --> 00:44:34.469
my like the later in the day Adderall, I'm like,

00:44:34.489 --> 00:44:37.849
oof, I could go right to bed. I could use a little

00:44:37.849 --> 00:44:43.949
sleep. And also. We might have to cut this, but

00:44:43.949 --> 00:44:47.989
I've taken Adderall recreationally, like early

00:44:47.989 --> 00:44:51.590
in college and late in high school. Yeah. That

00:44:51.590 --> 00:44:53.789
sounds like my personal hell. I would hate that.

00:44:54.429 --> 00:44:58.389
It didn't do anything to me. You have ADHD. Yeah.

00:44:59.190 --> 00:45:01.730
Pretty sure I have ADHD. I've taken Adderall.

00:45:01.829 --> 00:45:04.869
It doesn't make me feel like anything. It probably

00:45:04.869 --> 00:45:06.909
does help me focus, but it didn't make me feel

00:45:06.909 --> 00:45:12.090
like what people talk about feeling. Yeah. And

00:45:12.090 --> 00:45:14.670
also caffeine doesn't do anything to me. No stimulant

00:45:14.670 --> 00:45:18.710
really does. So here we are. Here we are. I made

00:45:18.710 --> 00:45:20.630
it this far. I can take an Alani and go right

00:45:20.630 --> 00:45:24.530
to bed. Oh yeah. I used to drink an Alani every

00:45:24.530 --> 00:45:28.969
morning and it's almost like performative. It

00:45:28.969 --> 00:45:32.690
doesn't do anything to me. I'm a thousand percent.

00:45:32.769 --> 00:45:34.389
One of those assholes. It's like, I really just

00:45:34.389 --> 00:45:37.070
like the flavor of it. Cause like the, and I

00:45:37.070 --> 00:45:41.190
know part of it is the fact that like, I have

00:45:41.190 --> 00:45:43.130
to have built up like some level of tolerance

00:45:43.130 --> 00:45:45.389
to caffeine because like there there's no natural

00:45:45.389 --> 00:45:47.630
person that can walk the face of this earth and

00:45:47.630 --> 00:45:49.829
drink 200 milligrams of caffeine and nothing

00:45:49.829 --> 00:45:53.070
happens and they don't have some caffeine tolerance.

00:45:53.170 --> 00:45:55.030
Like that's fucking insane for me to say out

00:45:55.030 --> 00:45:57.309
loud. Well, I've had a caffeine addiction since

00:45:57.309 --> 00:46:00.900
I'm like 15. And I think that's I think I was

00:46:00.900 --> 00:46:02.780
drinking caffeine so much when I was a teenager

00:46:02.780 --> 00:46:05.980
because I needed it to focus in school. Well,

00:46:06.019 --> 00:46:07.780
this is it's like it's what comes first, the

00:46:07.780 --> 00:46:10.420
chicken or the egg. Right. It's like, oh, caffeine

00:46:10.420 --> 00:46:13.039
like helps me calm down. Like, oh, now caffeine

00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:14.400
does nothing to me because I remember I went

00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:17.800
to my doctor one time and she's it was the nurse

00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:19.460
practitioner that works with my doctor. And she's

00:46:19.460 --> 00:46:21.179
incredible. Like she's one of these people that's

00:46:21.179 --> 00:46:23.699
like, let's look holistically at you as a person

00:46:23.699 --> 00:46:26.559
rather than like attacking whatever problem you're

00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.340
in for. And I think she's so incredible for that.

00:46:29.179 --> 00:46:32.000
She was like, how are you sleeping? And I was

00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.300
like, I don't know, not good. And she's like,

00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.099
how much caffeine are you drinking a day? And

00:46:36.099 --> 00:46:38.940
then I like this is when I had this when we were

00:46:38.940 --> 00:46:41.519
at our first financial firm. And I did this cute

00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:43.800
thing where I would order a case of bang energy

00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.599
drinks and just keep them at my desk and drink

00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.159
them every single day, like throughout the day.

00:46:49.340 --> 00:46:53.679
And she was like, do you feel that maybe that

00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.639
might be part of your problem? And I said. You

00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:58.960
cannot convince me. I said, who the fuck are

00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:03.639
you? Did you go to medical school? Okay, nurse

00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:10.159
practitioner. Okay, Dr. Ali. Yeah, I don't know.

00:47:12.500 --> 00:47:15.380
It's hard. But also, there are people who follow

00:47:15.380 --> 00:47:18.599
those rules. Every time Kenny goes to Starbucks

00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:23.260
on the weekends, and he like... you know he fasts

00:47:23.260 --> 00:47:25.780
whatever he'll break his fast at like 11 and

00:47:25.780 --> 00:47:28.579
so he'll be he'll get in line at like 10 45 or

00:47:28.579 --> 00:47:31.599
whatever and he's like why are there so many

00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:34.099
people in line you're not supposed to drink caffeine

00:47:34.099 --> 00:47:37.679
after 11 a .m nobody's going to sleep tonight

00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.719
and i'm like oh buddy there's a whole world you

00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:45.599
know nothing about i will tell you i downloaded

00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.239
the rise sleep app and like i started like paying

00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.760
attention to the like tips it was giving me just

00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.699
to like help like improve my sleep quality and

00:47:54.699 --> 00:47:56.920
the way that it's like stop drinking caffeine

00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:59.760
now and it's like 11 o 'clock or noon and I'm

00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:04.519
like how how does someone do that well yeah so

00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:06.780
it's a it is like a proven thing caffeine has

00:48:06.780 --> 00:48:10.360
like a half -life or whatever so you're still

00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:14.000
feeling the effects of the caffeine like 12 hours

00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:19.699
later or something insane but it's like Shoot

00:48:19.699 --> 00:48:31.340
me. But also, for me, at least, and this is my

00:48:31.340 --> 00:48:34.079
addiction talking, when I was having really bad

00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:38.159
insomnia, like, in my first trimester, I found

00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:41.199
it easier for me to go to sleep if I had a cheeky

00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:47.099
little Coke Zero at dinnertime. Yeah. So... Migrating

00:48:47.099 --> 00:48:51.320
and pap off are... Their entire for my entire

00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:55.980
life, at least, I know have done nothing but

00:48:55.980 --> 00:48:59.460
drink coffee the entire day up up to and including

00:48:59.460 --> 00:49:03.159
four minutes before they go to bed. And it's

00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.360
like, OK, good night. My grandma used to do the

00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.360
same thing until she had to get a pacemaker.

00:49:09.300 --> 00:49:11.679
Well, my couple does have heart problems. So

00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.940
there's that. Actually, I'm so impressed by her.

00:49:15.059 --> 00:49:18.840
She's like one. She was one of those. Um, grandmas

00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:21.519
who like their house always smelled like coffee

00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.500
because they were constantly brewing coffee.

00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.940
And she like immediately once she found out that

00:49:28.940 --> 00:49:30.960
she was having heart problems, like immediately

00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.980
cut it to like two glasses a day in the morning.

00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:40.400
Wow. That's a wild habit to break. Yeah. And

00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:42.519
she did it so fast. She was like, yeah, no questions

00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:46.719
asked. And I'm like, good for you. How did you

00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.760
do that? Miss girl. Do you know what you're complaining

00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.480
about yet? I don't recall. I thought of it yesterday

00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:56.440
and then I didn't write it down because I'm an

00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:59.579
idiot. That's okay. I can complain about not

00:49:59.579 --> 00:50:03.219
remembering anything. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah,

00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:07.079
like last week I went to Whole Foods and I left

00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:09.380
one of the bags, which by the way was full of

00:50:09.380 --> 00:50:13.519
meat. Like, by the front door. I put the other

00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:16.699
two bags away, and I left one bag by the front

00:50:16.699 --> 00:50:18.940
door. And thank God, something got delivered.

00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.579
And so I had to go up by the front door. And

00:50:22.579 --> 00:50:24.780
much to my surprise, there was a bag of meat

00:50:24.780 --> 00:50:27.579
needing to be put away. That's horrifying. I

00:50:27.579 --> 00:50:33.559
can't remember anything. Ugh. Yeah, pregnancy

00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:36.139
is only making your ADHD worse. Yeah, I'm like,

00:50:36.300 --> 00:50:40.579
whatever. And also, I have eczema now. Really?

00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:44.659
My hands are peeling. Interesting. And I use

00:50:44.659 --> 00:50:46.699
lotion like nobody's business. I've gotten compliments

00:50:46.699 --> 00:50:49.300
my whole life about how smooth and soft my hands

00:50:49.300 --> 00:50:53.260
are. And now I have, like, they're peeling. It

00:50:53.260 --> 00:50:55.559
is so weird. Oh, that's hell. And, like, I have

00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:00.699
a rash in my, like, the crease of my elbow. No.

00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.659
And it's all eczema. And I'm like, dude, how?

00:51:05.219 --> 00:51:12.110
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.com. Code BESTIE. You ready for reality roundup?

00:52:33.630 --> 00:52:38.920
I am ready. So season three of The Secret Lives

00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:40.960
of Mormon Wives starts on November 13th, and

00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:42.539
they're dropping all 10 episodes at the same

00:52:42.539 --> 00:52:45.380
time. Oh, thank God. I'm so excited. Oh, thank

00:52:45.380 --> 00:52:48.260
God. I've been watching them on Dancing with

00:52:48.260 --> 00:52:52.880
the Stars. Yeah. And Jenga voted off last week.

00:52:52.900 --> 00:52:58.070
Aw. On Halloween week. Whitney is such a petty

00:52:58.070 --> 00:53:01.010
little bitch. Everyone has been pointing out

00:53:01.010 --> 00:53:03.969
her face because she covered her mouth. But you

00:53:03.969 --> 00:53:06.690
can tell she was like smiling. And here's the

00:53:06.690 --> 00:53:08.789
thing. From someone who cannot hide their facial

00:53:08.789 --> 00:53:11.789
expressions, it could be that she was just like

00:53:11.789 --> 00:53:14.190
uncomfortable because she knew everyone would

00:53:14.190 --> 00:53:16.690
be looking at her. Sure. And I can see myself

00:53:16.690 --> 00:53:19.409
doing the same thing, but it does not look good.

00:53:19.670 --> 00:53:23.099
You know what I mean? Can I just tell you something?

00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:26.780
I think back to the reunion where they both found

00:53:26.780 --> 00:53:28.119
out they were going to be on Dancing with the

00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:34.199
Stars. And I remember. I think because they announced

00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:38.679
Jen first and I remember Whitney, you could tell

00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:42.139
she was heartbroken. Yeah. And in that moment,

00:53:42.179 --> 00:53:45.679
I was like. Whitney is a dancer. This is what

00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:48.639
Whitney enjoys doing. Like this is like I think

00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:53.079
this is like her. She grew up dancing. Right.

00:53:53.219 --> 00:53:56.940
But I think this is her like ticket to like validity

00:53:56.940 --> 00:54:02.360
or something outside of reality TV. And. More

00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:07.400
reality TV. What? More reality TV. Yeah. No,

00:54:07.619 --> 00:54:09.840
I know. But it's like, yeah. Some some level

00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:15.159
of legitimacy. Right. I think that she's just

00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.940
glad she made it further than Jen. That's that's

00:54:17.940 --> 00:54:21.250
fine. And listen, here's the thing. People are

00:54:21.250 --> 00:54:23.550
hating on Whitney because she has dance experience.

00:54:23.670 --> 00:54:25.210
And the whole point of Dancing with the Stars

00:54:25.210 --> 00:54:29.070
is you get famous people who don't normally dance.

00:54:29.969 --> 00:54:33.849
And so people are like, how boring. Of course,

00:54:33.849 --> 00:54:36.590
she's like doing the best out of everyone, basically,

00:54:36.590 --> 00:54:41.929
because she grew up dancing. Like, duh. But like.

00:54:44.329 --> 00:54:47.869
um now people are hating on her because she and

00:54:47.869 --> 00:54:51.730
her professional mark ballas who i love said

00:54:51.730 --> 00:54:53.630
that they were gonna do like a giveaway thing

00:54:53.630 --> 00:54:57.130
and then they had to come back and be like actually

00:54:57.130 --> 00:55:02.269
we're not allowed to do a giveaway because abc

00:55:02.269 --> 00:55:04.269
said we couldn't like they didn't clear it through

00:55:04.269 --> 00:55:08.150
abc in the first place and then You know, people

00:55:08.150 --> 00:55:10.570
like live vote, like they vote from their phones

00:55:10.570 --> 00:55:12.630
and their computers and stuff. So people are

00:55:12.630 --> 00:55:15.349
like they're buying votes and la la la. So she's

00:55:15.349 --> 00:55:19.889
getting tons of hate right now. This is. In this

00:55:19.889 --> 00:55:22.429
day and age, and especially people like Whitney,

00:55:22.510 --> 00:55:24.730
who have to have some level of understanding

00:55:24.730 --> 00:55:27.840
about like what it takes, because. None of this

00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:29.940
stuff is just like an influencer coming out and

00:55:29.940 --> 00:55:31.960
saying, oh, I'm like, I'm doing a giveaway. It

00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:34.119
is a thousand percent a corporate sponsorship.

00:55:34.420 --> 00:55:38.460
One hundred percent of the time. And. For Whitney

00:55:38.460 --> 00:55:40.920
to not think that all the way through is wild

00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.400
to me. Like, you should know better than anyone

00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.199
the ins and outs of what goes into that. Especially

00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:49.599
a giveaway. They were going to give away, like,

00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.900
a chance to come see the show live. Like, tickets

00:55:52.900 --> 00:55:55.380
to the show, I think. Who the fuck did you think

00:55:55.380 --> 00:55:58.460
was going to pay for that, Whitney? So, of course,

00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:03.780
ABC was like, no, you're not. And so they both

00:56:03.780 --> 00:56:05.579
had to, like, get on TikTok and be like, we're

00:56:05.579 --> 00:56:12.400
so sorry. I don't know. So they also punished

00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.539
her for it because when they do eliminations

00:56:14.539 --> 00:56:18.239
at the end of each show, they don't do it in

00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:20.900
like highest to lowest. They do it in random

00:56:20.900 --> 00:56:26.829
order. saying who's safe and they and then when

00:56:26.829 --> 00:56:29.530
they have three couples left then they say who's

00:56:29.530 --> 00:56:33.269
going home and she was like everyone knew she

00:56:33.269 --> 00:56:35.170
wasn't going home because she like has been getting

00:56:35.170 --> 00:56:39.590
tens and whatever she has a fan base and but

00:56:39.590 --> 00:56:43.130
they put her like in the bottom bottom three

00:56:43.130 --> 00:56:45.590
that's not technically the bottom three but they

00:56:45.590 --> 00:56:49.460
made her like Stand it out. The week after she

00:56:49.460 --> 00:56:55.340
got. Oh, my God. I just. Yeah, I feel for her.

00:56:55.659 --> 00:57:02.079
But also use your brain, sister girl. Yeah. I

00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:06.500
don't know. I like I go back and forth with Whitney.

00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:09.159
I I have heard from what I've read about the

00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:12.639
new season of Secret Lives. I do think we're

00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:16.869
going to grow to like Whitney this season. Because

00:57:16.869 --> 00:57:20.090
I didn't hate her last season. I don't know why

00:57:20.090 --> 00:57:22.750
I came into the season hating her. I she like

00:57:22.750 --> 00:57:24.829
she was supposed to be the villain, but I don't

00:57:24.829 --> 00:57:28.889
even remember why. Yeah, I think you're right.

00:57:29.349 --> 00:57:32.489
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm in the

00:57:32.489 --> 00:57:34.730
same vein of Mormon wives. Have you seen the

00:57:34.730 --> 00:57:38.349
surviving Mormonism with Heather Gay thing? Yes.

00:57:38.750 --> 00:57:42.329
I'm so excited. I'm going to be tapped into that.

00:57:42.510 --> 00:57:46.909
So it comes out. the night before, um, secret

00:57:46.909 --> 00:57:48.210
lies of Mormon wise. It comes out on November

00:57:48.210 --> 00:57:51.329
12th and it's on Bravo. I'm so excited because

00:57:51.329 --> 00:57:54.630
it looks like, do you remember the, um, the Scientology

00:57:54.630 --> 00:57:57.849
show that Leah Remini did? Oh yeah. I think it's

00:57:57.849 --> 00:58:00.289
going to be just like that. I hope it is. Oh,

00:58:00.289 --> 00:58:04.829
it's so good. It's going to be great. Um, do

00:58:04.829 --> 00:58:06.210
you have anything else for reality roundup before

00:58:06.210 --> 00:58:11.429
we jump into real housewives? Uh, no. Robert

00:58:11.429 --> 00:58:15.190
Irwin is hot. Yes. But like 21 years old or something.

00:58:15.349 --> 00:58:22.969
Yeah. OK. OK. So we're covering season one, episode

00:58:22.969 --> 00:58:28.190
eight, Hot Tub Confessions on. Real Housewives

00:58:28.190 --> 00:58:33.969
of Salt Lake City. We open up with Mary FaceTiming

00:58:33.969 --> 00:58:36.909
Robert Jr. to ask about the I'm sorry, the product

00:58:36.909 --> 00:58:38.929
purse that he brought his girlfriend on Mary's

00:58:38.929 --> 00:58:42.239
credit card and. I thought to myself, I wonder

00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:44.019
how this is or if this is how my papal feels

00:58:44.019 --> 00:58:46.139
every time he opens up his American Express bill

00:58:46.139 --> 00:58:48.880
and sees nothing but my Amazon purchases on it.

00:58:51.340 --> 00:58:55.360
Does he actually look at it? I hope not. I feel

00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:57.000
like he just pays that. He's like, I don't want

00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:00.000
to know. I feel like he stopped. Yeah, like he's

00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:02.519
just he's just sending the check. He's like a

00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:05.579
long time. It's just like, let's call it a day.

00:59:05.579 --> 00:59:10.320
Travis, it's fine. And then we head over to the

00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.920
new location that's being built for Beauty Lab.

00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.219
And then Heather reflects on her on her success

00:59:15.219 --> 00:59:17.460
and like getting to where she is. And I'm really,

00:59:17.539 --> 00:59:20.119
really fucking proud of her. I love Heather.

00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:24.960
Love Heather so much. Meredith is at her store

00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:29.260
and Seth shows up while Meredith is on a FaceTime

00:59:29.260 --> 00:59:32.639
with Brooks and Brooks sees another opportunity.

00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:36.280
to make Seth feel bad about not being on the

00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:39.579
fashion show and immediately jumps on the cross.

00:59:40.179 --> 00:59:46.840
And. I wonder how close together all this happened,

00:59:46.980 --> 00:59:52.280
because. Obviously, like when this was when this

00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:54.679
was like filming or like when this was like showing

00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:56.639
on Bravo in real life, like this happened over

00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:58.559
the course of like four or five weeks, there's

00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.739
no way that. This was more than like two or three

01:00:02.739 --> 01:00:04.300
days apart. Cause like, you can't be that mad

01:00:04.300 --> 01:00:06.719
about it for that long. Like he's, he just keeps

01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:11.010
talking about it. He's pretty irritating. He

01:00:11.010 --> 01:00:14.030
was very much like, oh, there he is. The dad

01:00:14.030 --> 01:00:16.690
who hates me and doesn't support me. I know.

01:00:16.869 --> 01:00:21.110
Look at me on this cross. God. I don't know.

01:00:21.170 --> 01:00:23.289
I feel like maybe he did hold a grudge over.

01:00:23.670 --> 01:00:26.510
He also strikes me as one of those kids. And

01:00:26.510 --> 01:00:28.610
this is years ago now. So this is nothing against

01:00:28.610 --> 01:00:31.769
who Brooks is now. But he does strike me as one

01:00:31.769 --> 01:00:35.329
of those kids who's like, what can I get out

01:00:35.329 --> 01:00:37.760
of this? Oh, a million. Yeah, you're probably

01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:44.260
right. And by the way, if you think for one second

01:00:44.260 --> 01:00:46.159
that I wasn't a little demon monster like that

01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:51.369
when I was 19. A hundred percent. A hundred percent.

01:00:51.449 --> 01:00:54.050
Well, it's like and it's whatever. I don't even

01:00:54.050 --> 01:00:56.989
blame him. He has two semi -wealthy parents.

01:00:57.550 --> 01:01:00.849
His mom's on a TV show. He's like, I wonder how

01:01:00.849 --> 01:01:03.469
much I can blow. I don't blame him. I don't know.

01:01:03.710 --> 01:01:06.429
I don't blame him for that. Yeah. The conversation

01:01:06.429 --> 01:01:08.989
between Meredith and Meredith. Oh, my God. Meredith

01:01:08.989 --> 01:01:13.170
and Seth starts out super awkward. And we get

01:01:13.170 --> 01:01:16.130
to the good part where Seth asked Meredith to

01:01:16.130 --> 01:01:18.880
give him another chance to catch up. to where

01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:24.579
she is emotionally. And I think, I think that

01:01:24.579 --> 01:01:27.980
he has gone to therapy because he does use therapy

01:01:27.980 --> 01:01:30.760
speech a lot. Yes. Not in a bad way. No, no,

01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:32.860
no, no, no. But I think he's doing it in a way

01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:35.940
that's like, I'm trying to grow from this. And

01:01:35.940 --> 01:01:37.679
like something that I really love that he said

01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:40.039
is he goes, how are you processing what I'm saying?

01:01:40.139 --> 01:01:41.820
Cause he's like checking in with Meredith and

01:01:41.820 --> 01:01:44.559
like, I do think, say what you will about Seth

01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:48.190
and Meredith and like, where like the couple

01:01:48.190 --> 01:01:51.289
of turns their marriage took I do think they

01:01:51.289 --> 01:01:53.690
are two people that are good together they work

01:01:53.690 --> 01:01:58.130
together and I think that this was us seeing

01:01:58.130 --> 01:02:00.610
like the work that goes into making a relationship

01:02:00.610 --> 01:02:04.050
work after it's like been in bumpy waters yeah

01:02:04.050 --> 01:02:06.590
and I also think that Seth is like the perfect

01:02:06.590 --> 01:02:08.610
guy to do that with Meredith because she can

01:02:08.610 --> 01:02:12.280
be love her to death she can be a bit closed

01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:16.380
off and ambiguous and i think seth is a good

01:02:16.380 --> 01:02:19.960
guy to be like no really like how are you feeling

01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:25.579
right now right dead ass yeah i i love that but

01:02:25.579 --> 01:02:28.000
i also and like i think you're right about her

01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:29.639
like being closed off but like i think she's

01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:31.619
one of these people that's like when when she

01:02:31.619 --> 01:02:34.219
says i'm disengaging like she's very serious

01:02:34.219 --> 01:02:36.719
about that she's like no no like i'm i'm done

01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:39.860
engaging with you as a person and i think seth

01:02:39.860 --> 01:02:42.519
has like really put in the work of like, let's,

01:02:42.579 --> 01:02:44.460
let's climb over this wall. And I love that about

01:02:44.460 --> 01:02:47.400
him. Yeah. It also makes me sad because I'm like,

01:02:47.460 --> 01:02:51.480
what happened to her to make her protect her

01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:55.619
piece so hard? You know what I mean? Like, I

01:02:55.619 --> 01:02:58.019
wonder, like, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

01:02:58.780 --> 01:03:01.579
But the long and short of it is Meredith talks

01:03:01.579 --> 01:03:03.239
about how she realized she really missed Seth

01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:05.980
during the separation and she doesn't want life

01:03:05.980 --> 01:03:09.940
without him. And. I love where they're at. And

01:03:09.940 --> 01:03:12.360
like, obviously, I've watched every one of these

01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:14.860
episodes 10 ,000 times. So like, I love where

01:03:14.860 --> 01:03:18.699
they're headed. But in this moment, like it did

01:03:18.699 --> 01:03:21.039
like the first time I watched this, it like gave

01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:22.760
me a little like beacon of hope, like, oh, they're

01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:24.559
going to be OK. And I'm glad that like at some

01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:27.059
point we get confirmation of that. I also got

01:03:27.059 --> 01:03:29.099
the vibe that Meredith was a little uncomfortable,

01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:31.340
like the weird vibes were there because she knew

01:03:31.340 --> 01:03:34.179
cameras were watching her and she was about to

01:03:34.179 --> 01:03:36.460
be a little bit vulnerable. You know what I mean?

01:03:36.860 --> 01:03:38.679
I think those are the best housewife moments

01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:42.219
though. 100%. I just think it's not necessarily

01:03:42.219 --> 01:03:45.079
weirdness between Meredith and Seth. It's more,

01:03:45.219 --> 01:03:48.280
Oh man, I'm about to say something very real.

01:03:48.300 --> 01:03:52.960
You know what I mean? Yeah. That's the vibe that

01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:57.420
I got. That's fair. But I also think in the,

01:03:57.420 --> 01:04:00.039
in the first season of housewives, the like behind

01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:01.699
the scenes, they do talk about this where like,

01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:03.960
you're very hyper aware of the cameras, the first

01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.730
couple of seasons, but like, That's why they

01:04:06.730 --> 01:04:09.010
talk about like season season three housewives

01:04:09.010 --> 01:04:10.869
are really where they hit their stride because.

01:04:11.210 --> 01:04:13.409
Yeah. You forget the cameras are there to adjust

01:04:13.409 --> 01:04:15.750
yourself. Well, just like anything, like any

01:04:15.750 --> 01:04:18.409
job or anything, you just like get comfortable

01:04:18.409 --> 01:04:20.849
after a while. Sure. And it's like I've already

01:04:20.849 --> 01:04:25.090
done so much shit on this channel that is Bravo.

01:04:25.449 --> 01:04:28.570
I like what are they going to do to me now? I

01:04:28.570 --> 01:04:32.150
don't care. Whitney and Justin head over to Whitney's

01:04:32.150 --> 01:04:37.059
dad's sober living house and. So this this scene

01:04:37.059 --> 01:04:39.380
was a lot for me. I'm not going to lie to you.

01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:41.780
So Whitney's dad is getting a sober living roommate,

01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.019
which is a normal standard practice. And I'm

01:04:45.019 --> 01:04:47.280
shocked that he went as long as he did without

01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:49.219
having a roommate, because like these houses,

01:04:49.219 --> 01:04:53.260
the way they're designed, like I go back and

01:04:53.260 --> 01:04:55.139
forth because I'm like, it is a place where people

01:04:55.139 --> 01:04:58.199
go to get sober and stay sober. And like, this

01:04:58.199 --> 01:04:59.960
is really good for them. And like the roommate

01:04:59.960 --> 01:05:02.599
is. part of an accountability thing where it's

01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:05.099
like you, you, you're only as sick as your secrets

01:05:05.099 --> 01:05:08.380
and like you, you can't hide when you have someone

01:05:08.380 --> 01:05:11.780
living with you. Right. At the same time, I feel

01:05:11.780 --> 01:05:14.039
like part of the problem is these houses are

01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:16.179
so full that you are forced to have a roommate,

01:05:16.260 --> 01:05:19.500
but you have to come into it having like some

01:05:19.500 --> 01:05:24.019
level of humility saying I, it's all on the table.

01:05:24.059 --> 01:05:27.059
It is what it is. The cost of privacy is a heavy

01:05:27.059 --> 01:05:30.480
burden though. A hundred percent. Like I, I would

01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.840
not do well without having any privacy ever.

01:05:33.059 --> 01:05:37.440
Sure. So I get it. Yeah. Like the one, the one

01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:40.800
guy that I knew, um, in Louisiana who was in

01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:44.119
sober living, he got like his own room, which

01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:47.719
was in like a detached portion of this big house.

01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:50.739
And that was because he had been there for like

01:05:50.739 --> 01:05:54.599
over a year. You earned it. And he, yeah. They

01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:58.059
like trusted him to some extent to stay sober.

01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.099
Cause he didn't have like big red flags or anything.

01:06:01.179 --> 01:06:04.079
He was also free to like come and go as he pleases,

01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:06.900
which is not necessarily the case. When you first

01:06:06.900 --> 01:06:08.920
get there, you like sign in and out and stuff.

01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:14.719
So it's hard. Um, but the therapist has already

01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:16.980
briefed Whitney on the situation and like they

01:06:16.980 --> 01:06:22.239
walk in and it's incredibly tense. Um, and this

01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:27.539
is where. I I want to like Whitney's dad, but

01:06:27.539 --> 01:06:29.619
I know exactly where it's headed because like

01:06:29.619 --> 01:06:31.960
I've lived this with people before. I know exactly

01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:37.960
what it looks like. And you he goes into it and

01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:40.460
he's like, I had this life. I want to get back

01:06:40.460 --> 01:06:42.780
to this life. I'm not willing to put in any of

01:06:42.780 --> 01:06:44.380
the work that it takes to get back into this

01:06:44.380 --> 01:06:50.039
life. And well, yeah, I get it. And like, it's

01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:52.340
probably harder for you having like gone through

01:06:52.340 --> 01:06:56.889
it so personally. Not, Travis was not the addict,

01:06:56.969 --> 01:06:59.110
is not the addict. It's, you know, whatever.

01:06:59.389 --> 01:07:00.690
Couple other people in my life, yeah. Very close

01:07:00.690 --> 01:07:05.130
to an addict. And I haven't, I can understand

01:07:05.130 --> 01:07:10.190
him to some point of being like, I am entitled

01:07:10.190 --> 01:07:12.869
to this life that I had because I worked for

01:07:12.869 --> 01:07:15.010
that already. Why do I have to work for that

01:07:15.010 --> 01:07:19.289
again? Okay. You know what I mean? I see what

01:07:19.289 --> 01:07:21.150
you're saying, yeah. And like obviously that's

01:07:21.150 --> 01:07:23.309
not the reality of the matter, but I can see

01:07:23.309 --> 01:07:26.889
why he kind of feels that way. And I also feel

01:07:26.889 --> 01:07:32.090
like this isn't really like him, his personality.

01:07:32.190 --> 01:07:37.150
This is like him going through a really, really

01:07:37.150 --> 01:07:40.130
hard time mentally. And a level of denial that

01:07:40.130 --> 01:07:42.489
he's in that. Right. Right. Because I don't think

01:07:42.489 --> 01:07:45.730
anyone wants to be like. Oh, yeah, I'm a crackhead

01:07:45.730 --> 01:07:49.130
or whatever. And I think that's the hard part

01:07:49.130 --> 01:07:53.690
is like. It's it happens so quickly, like any

01:07:53.690 --> 01:07:55.610
any family that's ever gone through this, you

01:07:55.610 --> 01:07:59.230
will never meet anyone that is more empathetic

01:07:59.230 --> 01:08:02.849
to this situation than I am, because like I know

01:08:02.849 --> 01:08:05.030
how quickly the wheels fall off. I've watched

01:08:05.030 --> 01:08:08.110
it and like and and it's so quick. We're like

01:08:08.110 --> 01:08:11.119
you. You have an inkling that something is happening

01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:13.059
in someone's life. And then like immediately

01:08:13.059 --> 01:08:16.819
it's like I'm arrested. I like overdose. Something's

01:08:16.819 --> 01:08:19.060
going on. And like you blame yourself a little

01:08:19.060 --> 01:08:21.340
bit because you're like. How didn't I not see

01:08:21.340 --> 01:08:23.460
it? How did I not see the problem? Like the signs

01:08:23.460 --> 01:08:25.039
were all there. And it's like you gaslight yourself

01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:28.479
almost. But also they're hiding it. Right. And

01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:31.619
of course they are. Right. But it's sad. It is

01:08:31.619 --> 01:08:35.640
sad. It is sad. But. Yeah. On the other side

01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:38.420
of that. You have no money. You have no job.

01:08:38.500 --> 01:08:41.340
You have no support system other than your daughter.

01:08:41.460 --> 01:08:45.140
And like you're saying, I want to I want to do

01:08:45.140 --> 01:08:46.579
this again. I want to be a millionaire again.

01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:48.619
And it's like, you know, the work that goes into

01:08:48.619 --> 01:08:51.279
that. You've done the work before. Right. And

01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:53.220
you know where you are now. Like, tell me how

01:08:53.220 --> 01:08:56.579
to get there. Like, so. Yeah. No, it's going

01:08:56.579 --> 01:08:58.939
to be incredibly hard on Whitney, too, because

01:08:58.939 --> 01:09:02.159
I know that she she sees a person we haven't

01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:04.619
met yet because we've only met him like as an

01:09:04.619 --> 01:09:08.590
addict. Right. but she knows like what he, what

01:09:08.590 --> 01:09:11.390
he is at his best, you know? And so it's hard

01:09:11.390 --> 01:09:14.630
to even know where she's coming from because

01:09:14.630 --> 01:09:18.069
we don't know him like that. Um, and it's just

01:09:18.069 --> 01:09:20.649
hard to watch it all play out in this scene,

01:09:20.670 --> 01:09:25.270
especially it's like, I wish Whitney stood her

01:09:25.270 --> 01:09:28.109
ground a little bit more, but I am proud of her

01:09:28.109 --> 01:09:31.100
for. I am too. What she did. I'm incredibly proud

01:09:31.100 --> 01:09:33.479
of her. But like the sick part, and this is what

01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:35.460
addicts do, is like they'll make everything else

01:09:35.460 --> 01:09:38.100
your problem. So like I guess Whitney's dad had

01:09:38.100 --> 01:09:40.319
made a list the first time she went or he went

01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:42.720
to rehab. He had made a list of all the things

01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:45.479
he'd pay for for her growing up. That she was

01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.180
entitled to. She was a child. Yes. Hello. But

01:09:48.180 --> 01:09:49.659
it's like the car, the education, everything

01:09:49.659 --> 01:09:52.619
else. Yeah. And held that over her head to make

01:09:52.619 --> 01:09:54.880
her pay for her going or for her dad to go to

01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:57.939
rehab. For the first time. That's so insane.

01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:02.520
And I heard that and I was like, fuck you. Fuck

01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:06.300
you, Diane Warren. And that's why I feel like

01:10:06.300 --> 01:10:09.079
she, like I wish she were a little meaner to

01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:12.260
her dad. I do too. Because he's, he's really

01:10:12.260 --> 01:10:14.579
pulling those strings. Can I tell you why she's

01:10:14.579 --> 01:10:17.380
not though? Because she's terrified he's going

01:10:17.380 --> 01:10:19.420
to turn on her because he's done it before. Like

01:10:19.420 --> 01:10:21.199
this, this is the thing. And like, I mean, we

01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.020
come to find out at the end of the season, this

01:10:23.020 --> 01:10:26.090
is not a surprise. Like it's not a spoiler. But

01:10:26.090 --> 01:10:28.289
he doesn't he doesn't talk to her anymore. And

01:10:28.289 --> 01:10:32.050
I know exactly I know the rope she's walking

01:10:32.050 --> 01:10:34.229
in her head because I walk it every day with

01:10:34.229 --> 01:10:35.930
some of these people. I know exactly what she's

01:10:35.930 --> 01:10:38.449
talking about, where it's like what she's what's

01:10:38.449 --> 01:10:40.350
going on. Not what she's saying out loud, but

01:10:40.350 --> 01:10:42.489
it's like if I say the wrong thing, if I make

01:10:42.489 --> 01:10:44.689
him too mad, he'll he'll run away. He'll die.

01:10:44.789 --> 01:10:46.770
It'll be my fault. Like that's exactly what's

01:10:46.770 --> 01:10:48.170
going through her head. And I can understand

01:10:48.170 --> 01:10:51.189
why you would think that way. But as someone

01:10:51.189 --> 01:10:54.479
who's never had to deal with like. an addict

01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:58.000
who's not in recovery or anything like that personally

01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:03.840
i wish she could see things objectively to be

01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:07.779
like i get that if he ran away and od'd that's

01:11:07.779 --> 01:11:09.979
not your fault nothing to do with you right nothing

01:11:09.979 --> 01:11:11.880
to do with you and in fact you're one of the

01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:13.939
only people in his life who tried to prevent

01:11:13.939 --> 01:11:17.470
that so I don't know. Yeah. And it's hard because

01:11:17.470 --> 01:11:20.210
Whitney is so sweet. She's such like a sweet

01:11:20.210 --> 01:11:22.329
little angel. And I wish she could just be that

01:11:22.329 --> 01:11:26.310
all the time, but she has to like be her dad's

01:11:26.310 --> 01:11:30.130
mom. It's hard. Um, but I do feel like Whitney

01:11:30.130 --> 01:11:32.109
and Justin did a really good job in this conversation.

01:11:32.710 --> 01:11:40.029
And Justin said all the right things like, and

01:11:40.029 --> 01:11:43.220
this is where I think Justin. Is a very good

01:11:43.220 --> 01:11:45.220
businessman because I saw exactly what he was

01:11:45.220 --> 01:11:47.180
doing, where he was like an objective third party

01:11:47.180 --> 01:11:49.020
in a conversation and he jumped in and he is

01:11:49.020 --> 01:11:55.020
like, let's let's rip this apart. Yeah. Yeah.

01:11:55.140 --> 01:11:57.920
And so I was like, I really liked what he did

01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:00.920
there. Um, I feel like this is the first time

01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.159
I started to really like Justin because I feel

01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:05.180
like it's the first time we talked to him. And

01:12:05.180 --> 01:12:08.720
all we know about him is that like he was married

01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:11.659
and she was married and then yes. And that's

01:12:11.659 --> 01:12:14.079
like all I knew. And so I was like, does he really

01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.260
like her? Like I wanted some proof. I see what

01:12:16.260 --> 01:12:18.659
you're saying. And I got that. I think that like

01:12:18.659 --> 01:12:20.800
they are really destined to be together. Like,

01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:23.819
Oh yeah. Yeah. They're a great couple. Yeah.

01:12:23.859 --> 01:12:26.819
And I love him. And this was the first time that

01:12:26.819 --> 01:12:30.399
we like, got to see that yeah instead of like

01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:35.199
is this just some skis who wanted hot young whitney

01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:38.359
like you know i didn't know i didn't have an

01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:41.500
opinion on that yet yeah um everyone except for

01:12:41.500 --> 01:12:46.579
mary goes snowmobiling and i i like the idea

01:12:46.579 --> 01:12:49.460
i like skiing i like the idea of snowboarding

01:12:49.460 --> 01:12:51.199
i've never been snowboarding i've been snow tubing

01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:54.920
Me too. I've never wanted to go snowmobiling.

01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.199
Like, that's not exciting to me. That's not interesting

01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:01.380
to me. I love riding around on a golf cart, and

01:13:01.380 --> 01:13:05.079
I feel like it might be similar. But also, it

01:13:05.079 --> 01:13:07.899
might be delusional. I don't know. It's like

01:13:07.899 --> 01:13:11.220
a four -wheeler. Like, I don't know. It did not...

01:13:11.220 --> 01:13:13.399
I like the idea of getting to the top of the

01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:15.649
mountain. Don't want to do it on a snowmobile.

01:13:15.789 --> 01:13:19.590
That's just me. I do like that Heather said snowmobiling

01:13:19.590 --> 01:13:21.569
is a lot like sex. It's much more fulfilling

01:13:21.569 --> 01:13:26.130
alone. And I love her. Oh, my God. And that spoke

01:13:26.130 --> 01:13:29.130
anything to her marriage. Thank God she got that

01:13:29.130 --> 01:13:33.430
divorce. Yeah. Everyone's confused about Seth

01:13:33.430 --> 01:13:38.130
and Meredith being happy. And here's here's the

01:13:38.130 --> 01:13:42.289
thing. Every single person. on god's green earth

01:13:42.289 --> 01:13:44.829
has like been in a situation where you've watched

01:13:44.829 --> 01:13:47.670
a couple who you know is going through a hard

01:13:47.670 --> 01:13:50.310
time and like they're they're either a just going

01:13:50.310 --> 01:13:52.310
through the motions or b trying to make it work

01:13:52.310 --> 01:13:54.930
everyone has seen that everyone's experienced

01:13:54.930 --> 01:14:00.449
that And that's okay. You have to let people

01:14:00.449 --> 01:14:03.930
figure it out. Couples go through ups and downs.

01:14:04.029 --> 01:14:08.130
Like if they never had a harsh spot, I would

01:14:08.130 --> 01:14:10.729
be suspicious. Yeah. Because I know you've had

01:14:10.729 --> 01:14:12.670
a bad spot and you're just not telling anyone.

01:14:12.750 --> 01:14:16.770
Right. 100%. Can I also just say, I feel like

01:14:16.770 --> 01:14:20.869
as a friend, you have a right to ask how things

01:14:20.869 --> 01:14:24.810
are going. You also have an obligation to accept

01:14:24.810 --> 01:14:28.689
the answer you are given. You don't need to do

01:14:28.689 --> 01:14:30.949
this whole thing where you're like, well, I don't

01:14:30.949 --> 01:14:33.109
think she's telling me the whole story. Maybe

01:14:33.109 --> 01:14:36.949
she's not. Maybe she's not. Be her friend. She's

01:14:36.949 --> 01:14:40.930
telling you enough to support her through this

01:14:40.930 --> 01:14:43.310
time. And that's all you get. But I don't think

01:14:43.310 --> 01:14:45.050
Meredith has ever been dishonest about like,

01:14:45.109 --> 01:14:48.489
hey, we're trying to figure it out. No, but she

01:14:48.489 --> 01:14:52.090
also doesn't have to be like, yeah, we're separated.

01:14:52.310 --> 01:14:54.739
Yeah, we're dating other people. Like she does

01:14:54.739 --> 01:14:56.520
not have to say that if she doesn't want to.

01:14:57.060 --> 01:15:01.399
The whole thing is it the whole I could tell

01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:04.380
that it was like. We had nothing else to talk

01:15:04.380 --> 01:15:06.380
about in the scene. Let's like really hone in

01:15:06.380 --> 01:15:11.779
on this. Yeah. Yeah. It bothered me. But Sharif

01:15:11.779 --> 01:15:14.319
talked about how he and Jen met. And I really,

01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:16.840
really like Sharif. Like he's like silly and

01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:21.140
he's goofy. But like he's also like. Like a good,

01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:24.600
strong husband. And I feel like. For as much

01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:28.640
shit as Jen, as much shit as you can give Jen,

01:15:28.779 --> 01:15:30.779
I can tell that they have a very good, strong

01:15:30.779 --> 01:15:34.239
marriage. 100%. I feel like he does show, like,

01:15:34.340 --> 01:15:38.460
on TV, he, like, is very silly, very lighthearted,

01:15:38.579 --> 01:15:41.560
all of that. But, like, you can tell. There's

01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:43.659
like an intense side to him. A hundred percent.

01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:45.920
Which he's a football coach. Like, duh. And also

01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:47.500
he's married to Jen Shaw. So you have to be.

01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:51.800
Yeah. You're going to war. Yeah. So I can, I

01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:54.699
can just tell. And I really like him too. Um,

01:15:54.779 --> 01:15:57.560
and it seems like their kids are very like comfortable.

01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:01.239
Oh yeah. Around their parents, which I love.

01:16:02.170 --> 01:16:04.470
And then Whitney pulls Heather aside and tells

01:16:04.470 --> 01:16:07.310
her the rumors that Jen hinted at. And we found

01:16:07.310 --> 01:16:10.149
out that Jen showed pictures of Meredith with

01:16:10.149 --> 01:16:15.510
another guy to, I guess, to Whitney. And Heather's

01:16:15.510 --> 01:16:17.890
a real one. And she goes, we're not getting into

01:16:17.890 --> 01:16:20.470
that. That's what I like about Heather. Heather's

01:16:20.470 --> 01:16:25.470
like, I don't care. Yeah. OK, great. Like what?

01:16:27.170 --> 01:16:30.920
And I guess like. to what end to what end are

01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:34.159
you pulling out these pictures and like here's

01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:35.720
my friend who's going through something with

01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:38.640
her husband do you think she's hot right i don't

01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:40.560
think there's necessarily anything wrong with

01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:45.539
that but also i know jen i know that she was

01:16:45.539 --> 01:16:50.100
trying to be messy yes i like i don't know like

01:16:50.100 --> 01:16:54.439
diva the way you're out looking for truth let's

01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:56.319
wait until the middle of season two and see how,

01:16:56.319 --> 01:16:58.899
how into the truth you are. Like, come on diva.

01:16:58.899 --> 01:17:02.779
Like, um, and then we get to the last scene where

01:17:02.779 --> 01:17:04.439
everyone heads over to Jen's house for dinner.

01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:07.819
And I don't usually love the way wood grain looks,

01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:10.640
but I love the inside of Jennifer Shaw's house.

01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:13.039
Like I think it is so beautiful. Like it is a

01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:17.659
ski chalet. I love it. Yeah. I do love the like

01:17:17.659 --> 01:17:22.310
cabin luxury, luxury cabin vibes. Yeah. For sure.

01:17:22.430 --> 01:17:24.310
Because you still have like floor to ceiling

01:17:24.310 --> 01:17:27.489
windows. Like, don't get it twisted. Yeah. Yeah.

01:17:27.489 --> 01:17:31.430
I love that house. I really do. Sharif asked

01:17:31.430 --> 01:17:33.630
about the conflict between owning a liquor store

01:17:33.630 --> 01:17:36.050
and owning a liquor brand and being a Mormon.

01:17:36.149 --> 01:17:39.989
And Lisa really dances around that question.

01:17:40.050 --> 01:17:43.170
She goes, for me, it's it's different. Like,

01:17:43.229 --> 01:17:47.279
I'm a Mormon by choice. Like the whole. yeah

01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:49.720
the whole thing it's like and they they get deeper

01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:51.720
into this as the seasons go on because i think

01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:53.760
they were very scared to approach the mormon

01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:57.819
dynamic i don't blame them in the church of mormon

01:17:57.819 --> 01:17:59.600
or i'm sorry in the church of latter -day saints

01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:04.600
drinking smoking caffeine sex before marriage

01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:07.760
it's all completely off limits Not caffeine,

01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:11.060
though. Just coffee. Because Swig is fine. I'm

01:18:11.060 --> 01:18:13.340
sorry, hot caffeine. Okay. Yeah. But there are

01:18:13.340 --> 01:18:16.079
very, very specific rules. And, like, I grew

01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:18.180
up in the Nazarene Church. The Nazarene Church

01:18:18.180 --> 01:18:21.420
and the Mormon Church, there are a lot of similarities

01:18:21.420 --> 01:18:24.439
there. Like, there are some things where, like,

01:18:24.460 --> 01:18:26.640
they break off into different sections. But fundamentally,

01:18:26.739 --> 01:18:29.119
it's all the exact same thing, right? No drinking.

01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:33.020
No sex before marriage. The whole song and dance.

01:18:36.670 --> 01:18:40.829
If you ask someone who truly practices any of

01:18:40.829 --> 01:18:43.590
these faiths, they will tell you, you cannot

01:18:43.590 --> 01:18:45.390
drink, you cannot support drinking, you cannot

01:18:45.390 --> 01:18:53.630
do any of it. Yeah. That being said, I go back

01:18:53.630 --> 01:18:55.529
and forth with this. We're like, Lisa's so obsessed

01:18:55.529 --> 01:18:57.869
with being a Mormon. And that's common for people

01:18:57.869 --> 01:18:59.590
that have converted from religion to a religion

01:18:59.590 --> 01:19:04.189
because you're so committed to this thing. I

01:19:04.189 --> 01:19:05.710
don't care if she's a Mormon. I want her to be

01:19:05.710 --> 01:19:08.050
a Mormon. That's fine. The problem that I have

01:19:08.050 --> 01:19:10.890
with it is when people want to like dangle this

01:19:10.890 --> 01:19:12.470
thing in front of you, be like, well, this is

01:19:12.470 --> 01:19:14.529
a contradiction. And I'm like, religion's nothing

01:19:14.529 --> 01:19:17.109
but contradictions. Like leave her alone. 100%.

01:19:17.109 --> 01:19:21.050
I feel like they were trying to come at it from

01:19:21.050 --> 01:19:23.970
an angle. By they, I mean the producers. 100%.

01:19:23.970 --> 01:19:26.210
I think they were trying to come at it at an

01:19:26.210 --> 01:19:30.069
angle of like. This is progressive. Look, you

01:19:30.069 --> 01:19:32.109
can be Mormon and do this. Oh, okay. I see what

01:19:32.109 --> 01:19:35.430
you're saying. But also the way it read, I was

01:19:35.430 --> 01:19:39.109
scared watching at this point, like going into

01:19:39.109 --> 01:19:44.109
season two, that it was going to be like, she's

01:19:44.109 --> 01:19:46.789
Mormon only when it suits her type of thing.

01:19:46.869 --> 01:19:50.569
And I wouldn't be into that show. You know what?

01:19:50.630 --> 01:19:53.689
And they kind of did do that. Yeah. And is that

01:19:53.689 --> 01:19:57.130
kind of true for her? Yes. Yeah. But I don't

01:19:57.130 --> 01:20:00.609
care. I do think religion is a very personal

01:20:00.609 --> 01:20:03.909
thing. Yes. And if you find something that you

01:20:03.909 --> 01:20:07.649
connect with, go after that. And if there's something

01:20:07.649 --> 01:20:09.710
in your life that doesn't connect with that,

01:20:09.829 --> 01:20:14.569
that's fine. The thing that I will always appreciate

01:20:14.569 --> 01:20:19.239
about Lisa Barlow is. She doesn't ever use the

01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:21.899
religion against other people. She's never said,

01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:25.800
Whitney, you cheated on your husband with Justin.

01:20:27.119 --> 01:20:29.579
You're a bad person. She's never once said that.

01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:31.779
She's said, Whitney, you do attention a lot.

01:20:32.460 --> 01:20:34.479
There's some other problematic things there,

01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:36.100
but I don't think it's ever rooted in religion.

01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:41.180
She loves gay people. She loves... Tequila. She

01:20:41.180 --> 01:20:44.760
loves tequila. She loves all that, but she's

01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:48.550
never said... Well, gay, the church doesn't like

01:20:48.550 --> 01:20:50.449
you. So I'm not doing that with you today. Like

01:20:50.449 --> 01:20:54.289
she's never once done that. She's also so close

01:20:54.289 --> 01:20:59.189
with Meredith and like comes over to her Shabbat

01:20:59.189 --> 01:21:02.409
and eats challah and all of that, like does all

01:21:02.409 --> 01:21:06.050
of that. So I feel like she's very, I don't know

01:21:06.050 --> 01:21:08.590
if progressive is the word or like she's just

01:21:08.590 --> 01:21:12.270
open to new ideas. She's not, she's not closed

01:21:12.270 --> 01:21:15.619
off in the way that I think. you and i look at

01:21:15.619 --> 01:21:19.600
religion and that forcing people to be closed

01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:21.880
off do you know what i mean yeah and there are

01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:24.439
some people who are that way but she's not and

01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:27.500
i think that that's good of her yeah i agree

01:21:27.500 --> 01:21:30.479
but i don't know yeah i was very scared watching

01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:32.260
this that it was going to turn into a whole mormon

01:21:32.260 --> 01:21:34.859
thing no which it doesn't i'm glad it doesn't

01:21:34.859 --> 01:21:39.319
um And then let's see where we are. The girls

01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:41.420
go out and get in the hot tub and the guys play

01:21:41.420 --> 01:21:43.899
games upstairs. And I usually don't love scenes

01:21:43.899 --> 01:21:46.220
with the other or like with the husbands, like

01:21:46.220 --> 01:21:49.300
separately from the wives. I genuinely like all

01:21:49.300 --> 01:21:51.420
these husbands. Yeah. And it seems like they

01:21:51.420 --> 01:21:54.140
get along. I feel like in a lot of the other

01:21:54.140 --> 01:21:56.699
franchises, you can tell that it's like such

01:21:56.699 --> 01:21:58.699
a mishmash of people who like don't really know

01:21:58.699 --> 01:22:01.479
each other. And like it's awkward and weird.

01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:03.840
This didn't feel like that necessarily. Yeah.

01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:06.180
Yeah. Like it seemed like they were. kind of

01:22:06.180 --> 01:22:08.500
hitting it off right when like you can tell like

01:22:08.500 --> 01:22:10.500
this is still very early on and like you can

01:22:10.500 --> 01:22:12.720
tell none of them actually knew each other going

01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:15.840
into it except for lisa and meredith yeah um

01:22:16.489 --> 01:22:19.010
I do think that like all of these guys, like

01:22:19.010 --> 01:22:21.430
there's no fucking ego about it. Like there's,

01:22:21.430 --> 01:22:23.449
I love that. They're like, yeah, we're just all

01:22:23.449 --> 01:22:25.449
here hanging out. We're just guys. Like I like

01:22:25.449 --> 01:22:27.890
all of them. And I can see how that happened

01:22:27.890 --> 01:22:29.949
because all of their personalities kind of like

01:22:29.949 --> 01:22:33.109
allow for that. Like I look at Sharif and Justin

01:22:33.109 --> 01:22:37.010
who were like very heavy in this episode specifically.

01:22:37.350 --> 01:22:38.930
And it's like, yeah, of course they would get

01:22:38.930 --> 01:22:44.319
along. Oh, of course. 100%. And like, like. I

01:22:44.319 --> 01:22:49.140
also like the dynamic between Seth and John where

01:22:49.140 --> 01:22:52.600
like John is so like buttoned up and closed off

01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:55.359
sometimes and Seth is so like silly goofy. Yeah.

01:22:55.479 --> 01:22:58.399
I feel like they could be friends in real life.

01:22:58.420 --> 01:23:00.800
Like if you told me that they knew each other

01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:03.340
before Meredith and Lisa knew each other, I would

01:23:03.340 --> 01:23:08.180
100 % like acknowledge that. Yeah. But yeah,

01:23:08.260 --> 01:23:11.640
I don't know. They have. they kind of have magic

01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:14.079
in a bottle with these husbands not that that's

01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:16.720
what anyone cares about watching housewives but

01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:19.779
they really do seem cool with each other that's

01:23:19.779 --> 01:23:24.039
what i love about this city so much is like there

01:23:24.039 --> 01:23:26.359
and i think it all comes back to there's not

01:23:26.359 --> 01:23:28.680
a lot of ego about any of it i think the most

01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:32.039
ego anyone had was jen shaw and like i genuinely

01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:35.300
believe a lot of the like the blubs that we get

01:23:35.300 --> 01:23:37.640
like say what you will about jen shaw later like

01:23:38.390 --> 01:23:40.350
towards the middle and end of season two and

01:23:40.350 --> 01:23:43.890
three right now i think all the blow -ups you

01:23:43.890 --> 01:23:46.649
get are like trying to make the show something

01:23:46.649 --> 01:23:49.250
that people wanted to watch yeah dramatic enough

01:23:49.250 --> 01:23:52.069
to hold the attention of yeah people who liked

01:23:52.069 --> 01:23:55.810
atlanta or like exactly oc or whatever you know

01:23:55.810 --> 01:23:58.489
you had to have some drama and i think that like

01:23:58.489 --> 01:24:02.789
god this like uh there's i there's i can't say

01:24:02.789 --> 01:24:05.859
a negative thing about one of them i yeah You

01:24:05.859 --> 01:24:08.699
can, but like I can't like as it relates to the

01:24:08.699 --> 01:24:11.899
show itself. Yeah, there's no one where I'm like

01:24:11.899 --> 01:24:15.779
I could live without her. Yeah. Like for season

01:24:15.779 --> 01:24:18.939
one of Salt Lake City. Absolutely not. Love them.

01:24:20.220 --> 01:24:22.619
And then we end with the girls out in the hot

01:24:22.619 --> 01:24:25.180
tub. And like, have you ever been in a hot tub

01:24:25.180 --> 01:24:28.600
in the snow? Yeah. Oh, my God. It's the best

01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:30.460
thing ever. It's the best until you have to get

01:24:30.460 --> 01:24:34.699
out. It's like the worst. Actually, if you have

01:24:34.699 --> 01:24:38.319
like a robe handy, that would be great. If they

01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:41.819
had a towel warmer, that would be great. I believe

01:24:41.819 --> 01:24:46.180
Jen Shaw has a towel warmer. There's no way she

01:24:46.180 --> 01:24:50.359
doesn't. It really is nice. But that brings us

01:24:50.359 --> 01:24:55.100
to the end of this episode of The Real Housewives

01:24:55.100 --> 01:24:58.590
of Salt Lake City. I guess Emma's last episode

01:24:58.590 --> 01:25:01.270
for this year. I hate this. But you, like, record

01:25:01.270 --> 01:25:05.010
little voice notes. Yeah. I'll record voice notes

01:25:05.010 --> 01:25:08.770
for how it's going, you know, with the baby.

01:25:09.689 --> 01:25:13.250
I'll even, I mean, I'll be back sooner than you

01:25:13.250 --> 01:25:15.390
think, I think. I don't have to twist and turn

01:25:15.390 --> 01:25:18.850
or walk around to record the podcast. Once I

01:25:18.850 --> 01:25:23.569
have a baby who naps on the regular. I think

01:25:23.569 --> 01:25:26.050
that'll come quick. I'll kill myself if it doesn't.

01:25:26.050 --> 01:25:28.590
Jack was not a good sleeper, so I'm hoping I

01:25:28.590 --> 01:25:33.310
get good karma with this baby. I hope so. But

01:25:33.310 --> 01:25:40.170
from Indy to wherever you are, we love you. Thank

01:25:40.170 --> 01:25:44.229
you for being here. And I'll be back with, I

01:25:44.229 --> 01:25:48.479
think. Taylor's coming on next week. I don't

01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:49.720
know. We'll figure it out. Yeah, Travis has a

01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:52.220
bunch of guest hosts for you in the meantime.

01:25:52.939 --> 01:25:56.319
And I will be back. Before you know it, I love

01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:59.439
all of you. Please keep listening. We love you.