Valter is very upset right now.

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Hi, I'm Travis. I'm Emma. And this is Bestie

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Approved. This is weird because we're not together

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today, like in real life. We're not. We're filming

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remotely so that we can have guests eventually.

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Yeah, it's a little practice for us, but it's

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okay. What's the last song you listened to? I'm

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laughing because I know who it was. Let's Go

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by Juicy J and Wiz Khalifa. Okay, sure. Can I

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just say Juicy J is a musician and an icon. Like,

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he's actually so talented. Do you remember the

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remakes of Die Young that he did with Kesha?

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Yes. I think about that every day. He's produced

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music for everyone. He's an artist, and I don't

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think he gets the appreciation he deserves. He

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doesn't. What's the last song you listened to?

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Walk Me Home by Pink. I actually really love

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that song. Do you want to know what... What's

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your thing about Pink? I don't know. What's your

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thing about Pink? Like, I want to love her so

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bad, but I just don't. I don't know why. Have

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you ever seen... I think it's Trixie Mattel and...

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Oh, God. Who's the one that hated Bob the Drag

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Queen on her season? I don't remember. It doesn't

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remember. It tricks you into telling, how do

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you feel about Pink? Now, maybe it's Bob the

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Drag Queen asking. I don't remember. But the

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Drag Queen's like, hate Pink. Hate her. And then

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Pink shows up on the screen. I could be completely

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misremembering it, but I feel like they brought

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her out. I don't remember. It does not matter.

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It's been a weird, weird week. I think she's

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very talented, and she flies, and that's beautiful.

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And I, again, wish I loved her, but I just don't.

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I do love Pink. I think I love her. I love Pink.

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Pregnancy update is really fast this week. Please

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go for it. I'm tired and miserable and fat. That's

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okay. How big is little August? Like what size

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is he? So if he were going according to the regular

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growth chart, he would be as big as a spaghetti

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squash, which is approximately 14 inches and

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two pounds. But if he's still two weeks ahead,

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he's as big as a head of lettuce, which is 15

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inches and two and a quarter pounds. Allegedly.

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Sure. Whatever they say. When are you due? Like,

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what's the date? Due December 10th. I'm hoping

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for more, like, Thanksgiving time, though. Okay.

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Thanksgiving is, like... two weeks almost exactly

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before my due date and i have an appointment

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with my ob the day before thanksgiving and i'm

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just hoping that's the one where she's like let's

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get it out here yeah are you like i i mean we

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talked this morning i i still can't get over

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the fact that like they can detect like how much

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of the like blood is is not yours i like that's

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wild to me yeah like the labs you get when you

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first like the first time you get your blood

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drawn when you're pregnant i was only 10 weeks

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and yeah like one of the results is like what

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percentage of that blood sample was the baby's

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blood and then they can test the baby's blood

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for like all of the genetic things that you test

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for including their sex like It's crazy. The

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way that like, I don't know how, what, 60 years

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ago we were like prescribing people cocaine for

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like medical treatments. And now it's like, oh,

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look at everything we can do. It's insane. And

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it feels very much as a pregnant woman. It feels

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very much like, I don't know. I just work here.

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Like. Like you're the one saying, I don't know,

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I just work here or like that's how you're experiencing

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it? Yeah, like I just work here. I don't know

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how anything works. How can you? That's above

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me. That's a doctor's job. Have you seen the

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dude robe? I looked at it briefly because it

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was in our notes. I don't understand it. So this

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is an ongoing thing where... masculinity is so

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fragile that we have to put dude and like like

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dude wipes you can't just use like a wet wipe

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on your asshole you have to use a dude wipe you

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can't just wear a normal robe you have to wear

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a dude robe and it has to be manly and like i

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don't like what's innovative about it though

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it just has like sweat shirt like hoodie strings

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yes like the whole the whole thing is and it's

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like i I saw an ad pop up on my Instagram and

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I was like, this is satire. There's no way this

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is a real thing. It's a rope. It is a rope. Yeah.

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And it's $120. Yes. It is wild. And then I saw

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the CEO talking to someone about it. He's like...

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Yeah, I saw my wife wearing a robe, and I was

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never a robe guy, but I really wanted to be a

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robe guy. So I decided, how can I make this better?

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And how can I, like, manify it, basically? And

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he put... Men have been wearing robes for literally

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centuries. I don't understand it. I don't get

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it, but it's the most insane thing. They're $118,

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but this guy, like... He was so all in on it.

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He went on Shark Tank to pitch this to the Sharks,

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asked for $150 ,000 for an 18 % stake in the

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company. Thank God they all said no. I hope they

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left him off of that stage. I couldn't find the

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episode of Shark Tank that it said he was on,

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so I have a feeling it did not go well. It might

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not have even aired. He might have just aired

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himself out saying he went on Shark Tank. No,

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like, there's a verifiable thing where, like,

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the Shark Tank, like, archive has, like, a record

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of him being there. They didn't air his. And

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that weren't quite that. Yeah, but, okay, so.

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That is actually insane. I got Kenny a robe for,

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like, his birthday or Christmas, like, three

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years ago. They make like UGG makes robes that

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are like very unisex. A robe is not a gendered

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thing. No. It's crazy. But I think the thing

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that bothers me more is that he is like charging

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$120 for it. I went to Alibaba. I found the supplier

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of the robe. They're $19 .88 from Alibaba. Ugh.

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Like, this man is out here, like, really just

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trying it in this economy. The price is, like,

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whatever. Because I love a good robe. And, like,

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Kenny and I kind of share one that's UGG. And

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I'm sure that was an exorbitant expense. But

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I wear a robe all the time. So, like, I don't

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care. But it's, like, why? I just can't get over

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gendering a robe. I want to wear a robe. I want

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to feel manly. Someone should have just introduced

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him to Japanese culture in general, and he would

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have been okay. Just go. This whole thing of

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needing it to be masculine, needing it to be

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manly, I'm like, who's it for? Because it's not

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for anyone else but you. Right. And it's been

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manly. Look at fucking samurais. Oh, my God.

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What are you talking about? You could wear a

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silk robe and still be a man. Yeah, it's okay.

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It's only an inch and a half long anyway. Yeah.

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I love that for him. Have you ever used natural

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deodorant? I tried, okay? I tried the natural

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deodorant thing. I just can't do it. I refuse

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to stink. Give me the aluminum. I'll put tinfoil

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in my armpits if I have to. I don't. So I didn't

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know that I was buying deodorant. I was at Meijer.

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I saw this like bottle of, it looked like lotion.

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I was like, oh, this is great. And then when

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I was putting it on, I was like, this is like

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not the consistency of lotion. And I look at

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it and it's like total body deodorant. I love

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a body deodorant because like under my boobs

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right now, under my belly or like in the thigh

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crease area. Beautiful. Love her. Okay. I mean.

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I don't think I smell bad, but it's natural deodorant.

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I like it. And I just like, I did not know what

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I was buying. And I'm like, now I feel like I'm

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like a barefoot hippie because I'm wearing natural

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deodorant. Are you wearing natural deodorant

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in your armpits? Well, I didn't realize that.

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So I was like, I put it on my armpits. Like I

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like put it and I just like rub it on or whatever.

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Yeah. And it, I mean. Kenny uses natural deodorant

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and he's fine, but apparently Asian people, and

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I know that that is literally billions and billions

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of people I'm generalizing here, but Asian people

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in general have like a gene that makes them not

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have bad BO. That is a thing like that, like

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Italians don't have that. I can definitively

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tell you that. No, but like, it's crazy. And

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when you think about it, Like, at least in my

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experiences with Asian people over the years,

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yeah, they don't really have BO. I've never,

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like... He can get over it with using natural

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deodorant, but, like, I mean, maybe, like, I

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cannot... I cannot use it probably when I'm at

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the gym. That would be very hard, I feel like,

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for everyone around me, because that would be...

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Oh, 100%. Like... On days where I'm just chilling,

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I could probably get away with not wearing deodorant

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at all. But if I'm going to sweat, I need all

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the chemicals. Give me clinical strength. Give

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me everything. I didn't realize that's what they

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were putting in deodorant. But also, you know,

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we put that shit in our bodies all the fucking

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time. It's like increases your risk of breast

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cancer is the thing. Sure. Well, you know, so

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does. everything else i what aren't we eating

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plastic and stuff i don't care yeah um speaking

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of eating plastic uh i'm pretty sure i swallowed

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a pair of quest or crust white strips the other

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night that's fine i put them on it and i didn't

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mean to fall asleep but i woke up and they weren't

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there anymore It's fine. It's been a weird week,

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man. I don't know. What else is going on? I think

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it'll be okay. It's going to be okay. I really

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do. Can you imagine? What? It just reminds me

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of when a dog gets into something they're not

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supposed to eat and it gets all twisted up in

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their stomachs and you have to go to the vet

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and get it out. I feel like I, this is so stupid.

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Um, my dad loves Boomer more than anything, my

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dog. And like he, um, He like will buy him those

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rope toys like and cuz boomer loves playing with

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the rope toys and I'm like Please don't buy those

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for him because he does nothing but rip them

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apart and like eat the rope and it's hell on

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earth Matt's like all we've been buying rope

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toys for the dog since Since the beginning of

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time whatever and I'm like, okay great and then

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I Forced my dad like when I went to the big boomer

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up to come outside while boomer pooped and I

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was like this is why He cannot have rope toys

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because I have to pull rope out of his butt Oh,

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my God. That's what I was going to complain about

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today. Max, my beloved Pomeranian poodle mix.

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He really just looks like a poodle. Has butt

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issues. Okay. You know, it's been stuck in my

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head. This is such a tangent. But have you seen

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this thing on TikTok where people are singing

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to the beat of Chopped and Screwed? Like, whatever

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they want to say, they're making up their own

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lyrics to T -Pain's Chopped and Screwed. Okay.

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Well, my dog's got butt issues, and that had

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been stuck in my head to the beat of Chopped

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and Screwed. I don't even want to get into too

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much detail, but just know that yesterday, Kenny,

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who is very squeamish, and I, who am pregnant,

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had to sacrifice Kenny's huge trimmer to trim

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the dog's butt. No. Because it is $80 to take

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him to the vet, and I wasn't willing to make

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it through the evening with his situation. So

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we spent an hour before dinner yesterday shaving

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his butt. What did you have to shave his... Like,

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what was in it? Okay, so he's a poodle, so his

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hair grows long. Yeah. And he gets groomed every

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six weeks, which is fine for the rest of his

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body. His hair's not even long. Here, I'll show

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you, even though people can't see this. You can

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vouch. He's been much furrier than that. Right.

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But what happens is, if his butt hair gets too

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curly, and then he has... A less than solid poop.

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It just gets like matted to his butt. And like

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the bottom of his tail. And eventually like he

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can't even poop. And it's just like poop butt

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everywhere all over the house. And yeah. So.

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I too understand the struggle of your butt hair

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growing faster than the rest of your hair. Yeah.

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I just. Poor Max. And poor me. Poor you indeed,

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yes. Poor all of you. And I have really taken

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him to the vet and paid the $80 at least four

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times. And every single time they're like, you

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should really just buy some tremors and do it

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yourself. And every time I've been like, that

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is my worst nightmare. That's actually my worst

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nightmare and I would rather die. So we're going

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to increase his grooming frequency to be one

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instead of every six weeks. He doesn't get it

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all the time, but I just... What would you like

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to complain about today? Burger King. So... Oh,

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Burger King. I love Burger King. The thing that

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I hate is when you go to Burger King or literally

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any fast food place and they act like the, if

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they give you a sauce, if they don't charge you

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for it, it will come out as a line item on their

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very own paycheck. And I'm happy to pay the 50

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cents or whatever it costs for like ranch and

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honey mustard. I'm happy to pay it. The thing

00:17:37.930 --> 00:17:39.730
that bothers me, though, is that like when I

00:17:39.730 --> 00:17:42.450
pay it, I see it on the receipt and it's not

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in the bag. And I'm already on 465 driving to

00:17:45.369 --> 00:17:47.529
wherever else I'm going and I can't turn around.

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And so I have to eat my chicken fries without

00:17:50.069 --> 00:17:54.609
honey mustard. And it's like the joy has left

00:17:54.609 --> 00:17:58.170
the earth. Yeah. And I don't know what to do

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with it. Because that's happened to me three

00:18:01.750 --> 00:18:04.829
or four times in the last two weeks. Oh, my God.

00:18:04.930 --> 00:18:08.440
Every time I get Taco Bell. I have to have sour

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cream on top of my Mexican pizza or it just does

00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:15.519
not hit the same. That makes sense. Every single

00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.619
time I've gotten it in the past, I don't know,

00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.200
four months, they have not put sour cream on

00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.559
it. What are we doing? What are we doing, Taco

00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.500
Bell? It's an extra. I'm paying for that. And

00:18:28.500 --> 00:18:32.960
you're happy to pay for it. Literally, whatever

00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:36.829
you need. Please put the sour cream on the pizza.

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Yeah. That's just where we're at. So I would

00:18:42.809 --> 00:18:45.690
ask Burger King, please get it together because

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I'm paying for the sauce. I'm happy to pay for

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that. I'll pay more for the sauce. I don't care

00:18:48.829 --> 00:18:52.609
because I would argue that the sauce is probably

00:18:52.609 --> 00:18:56.109
half of the experience. And there are some places

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that really understand sauce people. They take

00:19:00.690 --> 00:19:04.450
it very seriously. See Chick -fil -A, see Wingstop.

00:19:04.509 --> 00:19:08.690
They do not play about getting you your sauce.

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And I appreciate that. I really do. Are you ready

00:19:14.950 --> 00:19:19.009
for Reality Roundup? Yeah. Dear listener, today's

00:19:19.009 --> 00:19:22.529
going to be a shorter episode because it's been

00:19:22.529 --> 00:19:25.730
a wild week for both me and Emma. We'll get into

00:19:25.730 --> 00:19:32.809
it eventually. It's been a wild week. But I also

00:19:32.809 --> 00:19:38.009
woke up super late today, so it's just going

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to be a shorter day, and that's just going to

00:19:40.150 --> 00:19:42.829
have to be okay. And that's probably preferred

00:19:42.829 --> 00:19:44.750
for some people, you know what I mean? Honestly,

00:19:44.750 --> 00:19:50.210
probably. Nobody needs four hours. What did you

00:19:50.210 --> 00:19:52.849
say? I said nobody needs a four -hour episode

00:19:52.849 --> 00:19:59.740
anyway. No. No, they don't. Did you watch the

00:19:59.740 --> 00:20:02.539
trailer for the Real Housewives of Salt Lake

00:20:02.539 --> 00:20:05.700
City season six? Of course I did. Oh, my God.

00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:11.839
So Lisa Barlow in the trailer called Bronwyn.

00:20:13.180 --> 00:20:16.099
What did she call Bronwyn? I don't remember Bronwyn's

00:20:16.099 --> 00:20:18.519
last name, but she called Bronwyn a gout dick

00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:28.359
sucker. And I. I just know that, like. everything

00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:32.240
will be okay. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City

00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:34.200
is back. And one thing I love about Miss Lisa

00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:38.319
Barlow is she never misses an opportunity to

00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.640
take it straight to hell. I've said this about

00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:43.839
her before, but she just literally doesn't have

00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:46.299
a filter in her brain. Whatever she is thinking

00:20:46.299 --> 00:20:48.940
comes right on out. And that one was especially

00:20:48.940 --> 00:20:51.799
funny for me because you know who has gout? Kenny.

00:20:52.700 --> 00:20:56.450
Well, you... And Bronwyn, share partners that

00:20:56.450 --> 00:21:00.049
have gout. I just, like, what a funny thing to

00:21:00.049 --> 00:21:02.509
say. You gout dick sucker. So many people have

00:21:02.509 --> 00:21:07.250
gout. I don't know what to say. And I don't love

00:21:07.250 --> 00:21:10.170
that, like, she said that, but I do love that.

00:21:10.529 --> 00:21:12.869
I do love that that's coming. I'm so excited

00:21:12.869 --> 00:21:18.970
about that. Yeah. Oh, also, Karen Huber is now

00:21:18.970 --> 00:21:26.289
a free woman officially. Which is insane. Bravo

00:21:26.289 --> 00:21:30.990
cameras were, I guess, out at the Montgomery

00:21:30.990 --> 00:21:33.609
County Detention Center in Rockville, Maryland.

00:21:33.970 --> 00:21:36.849
She served six months for a DUI that she pled

00:21:36.849 --> 00:21:39.769
not guilty to and was found guilty of because

00:21:39.769 --> 00:21:43.910
there were cameras and body cam footage. And

00:21:43.910 --> 00:21:48.230
she also ran her car over a median and into a

00:21:48.230 --> 00:21:50.369
tree or a sign or something. And she said, I

00:21:50.369 --> 00:21:53.210
was obviously crying. I was crying because my

00:21:53.210 --> 00:21:56.079
mom died. Well, but that was the second story,

00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:58.140
right? Because at first she was like, there was

00:21:58.140 --> 00:22:01.819
a deer. And then she was like, I was emotional.

00:22:02.099 --> 00:22:06.440
My parents just died. And then it was like this

00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:08.799
whole thing. But then we got the body cam footage

00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:13.140
and the footage of her like being interrogated.

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And it's like, you've never been that obliterated

00:22:16.980 --> 00:22:21.180
in your life, Karen, your long, long life. Oh,

00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:25.829
my God. That was good stuff. I haven't seen the

00:22:25.829 --> 00:22:27.549
footage of her coming out, though. Have you?

00:22:28.509 --> 00:22:30.930
I haven't seen anything. I saw pictures. I didn't

00:22:30.930 --> 00:22:33.789
see videos. I did see the video of her, like,

00:22:33.789 --> 00:22:35.990
driving away waving. And I was like, oh, she

00:22:35.990 --> 00:22:42.589
believes that she is vindicated. Yeah. But, like,

00:22:42.589 --> 00:22:44.490
how do you feel vindicated after you just got

00:22:44.490 --> 00:22:47.130
out of prison? It wasn't even, like, a cunty

00:22:47.130 --> 00:22:50.690
sentence. Like, Martha Stewart had a cunty stint

00:22:50.690 --> 00:22:54.680
in prison. You didn't, Karen. This was all very

00:22:54.680 --> 00:23:01.279
ugly and sad. I have to be real. I don't think

00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:06.339
Karen lives in the same world that you and I

00:23:06.339 --> 00:23:11.420
live in. I don't think that she is present and

00:23:11.420 --> 00:23:16.460
of her higher self. I don't know. No, no, no.

00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:19.599
She doesn't because she doesn't understand that

00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:24.119
she could have killed someone. I don't think

00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:27.559
she thinks she did anything wrong. Which is crazy.

00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:31.839
And, like, here's the God's honest truth. Like,

00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.759
D .U .S. happened. Like, that is awful and terrible.

00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:38.099
I do think if she had just come out and said,

00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:40.299
you guys, I fucked up. I fucked up bad. Like,

00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:42.200
I was out partying, whatever. Like, I fucked

00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:44.960
up bad. Own it. Like, you didn't hurt anyone.

00:23:45.140 --> 00:23:47.880
Everything's okay. Jesus Christ, the way that

00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.059
she said, well, we have the right to appeal this.

00:23:51.320 --> 00:23:55.359
She dressed herself and Ray in all white and

00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:58.400
had that little video sent to the reunion about

00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:04.680
how her truth will come out. Bitch, I saw the

00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:08.819
truth. I would rather she had pulled a Jen Shaw

00:24:08.819 --> 00:24:12.460
and called someone, gave them a fake name, and

00:24:12.460 --> 00:24:15.839
taken their credit card number than do this.

00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:18.440
That's what I'm saying. Be like Martha Stewart

00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:24.039
or Jen Shaw, where you're just kind of... You

00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:29.180
couldn't have killed anyone. Like, whatever.

00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.839
I don't know. And at least own it like they both

00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:35.539
did. Be like, yeah, I just got out of prison.

00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:40.250
You know who else did this on Potomac? I guess

00:24:40.250 --> 00:24:42.910
Monique, where she wrecked her Bentley and she

00:24:42.910 --> 00:24:45.650
said, yeah, I'm just so tired. And, like, I guess

00:24:45.650 --> 00:24:47.809
Ashley said, like, at that lunch right before

00:24:47.809 --> 00:24:49.589
that, they'd had, like, seven wines. And I was

00:24:49.589 --> 00:24:51.690
just like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that.

00:24:52.069 --> 00:24:56.250
But they just. Unfortunately, this is like a

00:24:56.250 --> 00:24:58.569
Real Housewives disease. They become, like, very

00:24:58.569 --> 00:25:03.539
self -important and they don't realize. How fucked

00:25:03.539 --> 00:25:07.240
up that is. It really is sad because you're talking

00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.119
to people with so many resources. Absolutely

00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:15.079
the resources to call an Uber. I bet you could

00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:17.579
call Andy Cohen himself and be like, Andy, I'm

00:25:17.579 --> 00:25:20.460
fucked up and I need a car. And Andy would have

00:25:20.460 --> 00:25:21.720
been like, well, I don't want to lose you on

00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:25.480
the reunion. 100%. We're going to send you a

00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:29.240
car. yeah to take you home like you have so many

00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:32.700
resources and you're deciding to do something

00:25:32.700 --> 00:25:37.559
so reckless and dangerous it's bad i i hate it

00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:39.599
and like but i also i don't like karen i'm gonna

00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:41.599
be super real i don't like her on the show anymore

00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.819
like she's got she's done the same way that um

00:25:43.819 --> 00:25:46.680
vicki gunvalson went for me where um theresa

00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:49.200
judice went for me where it's like they believe

00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:52.119
that the show is them they're not on a show anymore

00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:55.519
it's their show And I stopped liking Karen after

00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:56.940
that because I was just like, oh, you're not,

00:25:56.980 --> 00:25:59.460
it's not fun anymore. I used to like Karen. Acting.

00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:05.500
Yeah. Yeah. She never feels real. And I don't

00:26:05.500 --> 00:26:07.680
like this whole thing that she's done for a year.

00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.980
The last like two or three years, seasons, where

00:26:11.980 --> 00:26:16.779
she's been like, I am neutral in all arguments.

00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:21.799
I don't like Karen. Blah, blah, blah. That, what?

00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.240
Ew. You're a Real Housewife. Have an opinion,

00:26:25.460 --> 00:26:31.500
girl. I don't know. Literally. And then today

00:26:31.500 --> 00:26:35.619
we're talking about season one, episode five

00:26:35.619 --> 00:26:39.039
of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We

00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:48.059
are going to finish that lunch. My gala luncheon.

00:26:48.059 --> 00:26:55.450
Oh, yeah. And same thing I've ever heard in Salt

00:26:55.450 --> 00:27:03.230
Lake City, Utah. I think about this luncheon

00:27:03.230 --> 00:27:07.450
all the time where I'm just like, these people

00:27:07.450 --> 00:27:11.789
in Salt Lake City were just handed a gift with

00:27:11.789 --> 00:27:13.910
these women. And I don't think they knew what

00:27:13.910 --> 00:27:16.420
they were getting. But like, I know Valter. And

00:27:16.420 --> 00:27:18.980
really, really, I hope he appreciated it when

00:27:18.980 --> 00:27:21.079
he was still here. Because I know he's looking

00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:22.880
down from heaven looking at us talking about

00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:29.619
this being like, I know I did that. But let's

00:27:29.619 --> 00:27:32.019
see. Let's see. Let's see. Okay, so Mary and

00:27:32.019 --> 00:27:33.640
Jen go back and forth for a little bit at the

00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.140
right. what oh they go back and forth while the

00:27:37.140 --> 00:27:39.220
uh while vaulter is at the end of the table being

00:27:39.220 --> 00:27:41.740
very intense about garnishing a drink or something

00:27:41.740 --> 00:27:44.819
like i remember he was just like into like whatever

00:27:44.819 --> 00:27:46.440
he was doing and there was a lot of arm movement

00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:51.819
he's a mixologist baby you know he is a god among

00:27:51.819 --> 00:27:57.619
men um mary tells jen uh she can leave so jen

00:27:57.619 --> 00:27:59.460
storms off and then heather chases after jen

00:27:59.460 --> 00:28:02.759
to calm her down and then lisa does a pretty

00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.920
good job of I'm saying that's just, like, rinse

00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:09.500
and repeat of Whitney's party. I don't understand.

00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.819
This is an ongoing thing, and, like, I do...

00:28:13.819 --> 00:28:18.720
We get into it eventually, but, like, Heather

00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.660
does talk about, like, I was afraid of Jen. Like,

00:28:21.660 --> 00:28:24.559
and so it's a lot of that's coming out here.

00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:31.880
Yeah. Mary tells Jen... Oh, wait, no, sorry.

00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:34.900
Lisa does a pretty good job of identifying how

00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:37.960
Mary's feeling after Jen's apology to Meredith

00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:42.619
because Mary also wanted an apology and she felt

00:28:42.619 --> 00:28:46.859
invalidated and Lisa calls that out. And then

00:28:46.859 --> 00:28:49.960
the girls are arguing and Mary goes, I don't

00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:52.180
want this around Walter. Walter's very upset

00:28:52.180 --> 00:28:56.180
right now. I think that was my favorite line

00:28:56.180 --> 00:29:02.180
of that whole episode. Because like... Walter

00:29:02.180 --> 00:29:10.440
is a grown man. He's going to be fine. There

00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:13.079
was a verbal altercation at his restaurant. He

00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:19.380
is going to be okay. But I think even better

00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:22.119
was, that's happening, that's happening. Mary

00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:24.220
says, oh, Walter's very upset right now. And

00:29:24.220 --> 00:29:28.140
Lisa goes, sorry, Walter. They're treating him

00:29:28.140 --> 00:29:31.569
like he's a... child or something that just had

00:29:31.569 --> 00:29:38.930
to witness um mary calls jenna hudlum and that

00:29:38.930 --> 00:29:40.950
turns into a conversation about i guess like

00:29:40.950 --> 00:29:43.089
i this had to have been off camera because i

00:29:43.089 --> 00:29:45.769
don't remember this but mary told jen that if

00:29:45.769 --> 00:29:48.289
she pulls up to a 7 -eleven and sees black man

00:29:48.289 --> 00:29:52.430
she goes to find another 7 -eleven yeah that

00:29:52.430 --> 00:29:56.799
was like I think they say in the episode that

00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.779
was, like, a private conversation. And so it

00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:03.839
was impossible for us to know the context of

00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.359
this. Not that I could ever see what a context

00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:09.579
could be that's not incredibly racist. But Mary

00:30:09.579 --> 00:30:14.299
is Black. I just can't. Well, that and, like,

00:30:14.380 --> 00:30:17.599
Mary also just says, yeah, I absolutely said

00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:22.210
that. I'm afraid of that. And I was like. your

00:30:22.210 --> 00:30:24.150
husband granted this is filmed and i think in

00:30:24.150 --> 00:30:28.410
2019 so like i don't think anyone realized the

00:30:28.410 --> 00:30:30.769
implications of what saying that would ever become

00:30:30.769 --> 00:30:35.910
but lord have 2019 that's not that long ago what

00:30:35.910 --> 00:30:38.170
do you mean no but like it was before the whole

00:30:38.170 --> 00:30:45.150
like the black lives matter like really i agree

00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.420
She has a black son, and she's saying if she

00:30:52.420 --> 00:30:58.339
saw the likes of him, she would... What? I just

00:30:58.339 --> 00:31:00.920
can't... This comes up at the reunion, and this

00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:02.880
is one of those things where Mary just really

00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:07.079
never answers for it. Like, that was insane to

00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:12.240
me. How can you? What is there to say about that,

00:31:12.259 --> 00:31:19.299
you know? Ugh. I just remember this was, like,

00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.400
the nail in the coffin for me not liking Mary.

00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.579
Because I thought she was just, like, a vibe

00:31:23.579 --> 00:31:27.599
mismatch for me for a while. And then that came

00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.980
out, and I was like, oh, I have no problem hating

00:31:30.980 --> 00:31:34.859
her. Fair. And, like, that is a valid reason,

00:31:34.940 --> 00:31:38.460
honestly. Like, that was a wild thing. So Jen

00:31:38.460 --> 00:31:40.640
ends up leaving, and then we go over to Heather's

00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:42.420
house, where Heather explains that her ex -husband

00:31:42.420 --> 00:31:44.220
has always provided for them financially, and

00:31:44.220 --> 00:31:46.210
he wanted his daughters. to have a mom that was

00:31:46.210 --> 00:31:47.990
always around to raise them. And, like, I actually

00:31:47.990 --> 00:31:50.390
really appreciate this about Billy. Like, he's

00:31:50.390 --> 00:31:53.269
awful and, like, was terrible to Heather. But,

00:31:53.289 --> 00:31:54.730
like, I do think at the end of the day, like,

00:31:54.769 --> 00:31:57.670
he was probably a really good dad, which. Least

00:31:57.670 --> 00:32:01.049
he can do is give her a little check every month.

00:32:01.269 --> 00:32:04.210
I mean, his family is billionaires. Like, it

00:32:04.210 --> 00:32:07.190
doesn't matter. And by little, I mean, I hope

00:32:07.190 --> 00:32:09.970
that thing is six figures every month. Christ,

00:32:10.390 --> 00:32:16.079
I hope so. Oh, okay. So Heather says she was

00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:18.839
not planning on going to church the next day

00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:20.380
and asked the girls if they still want to go.

00:32:20.579 --> 00:32:24.480
And then they all just decide that they're not

00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.940
planning on going because Heather lets them make

00:32:26.940 --> 00:32:29.140
their own decisions about this. And I feel like

00:32:29.140 --> 00:32:31.180
this is how every parent should approach that

00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:34.259
conversation because I remember seeing this and

00:32:34.259 --> 00:32:36.039
I was like, God, I probably wouldn't feel so

00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.079
weird about religion if like my family had just

00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:41.369
been like this. A hundred percent. I think she

00:32:41.369 --> 00:32:44.049
asked, this might be a later episode, but she

00:32:44.049 --> 00:32:46.329
asked at some point, she's like, do you see yourself

00:32:46.329 --> 00:32:51.509
being Mormon? Oh, yeah. It's later in the season,

00:32:51.589 --> 00:32:56.630
yeah. Okay, yeah. And that's fair to ask. I've

00:32:56.630 --> 00:32:58.190
talked about this before. Both of my parents

00:32:58.190 --> 00:33:00.170
were raised Catholic, and both of them decided

00:33:00.170 --> 00:33:04.849
that that was horrible to live in constant guilt,

00:33:05.009 --> 00:33:10.799
nothing against Catholics. Right. With my brother

00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.539
and me, they were like, if you ever want to try

00:33:13.539 --> 00:33:16.680
a religion, we will support you in that and get

00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:23.400
you where you need to go. But we don't. I think

00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:26.619
that's how you have to be a little bit. I talked

00:33:26.619 --> 00:33:29.920
to my sister -in -law about this before. Zachary

00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.880
doesn't have any feelings about religion one

00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:38.079
way or the other. He's a lot like me. And Alicia's

00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:39.740
always said, like, she goes, I don't like going

00:33:39.740 --> 00:33:41.279
to church. Like, it's just not my thing. But

00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.799
if Alex and Amelia go or if they want to go,

00:33:44.859 --> 00:33:47.279
I'll drop them off. I don't care. But I'm, like,

00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.579
not really interested in going. And I like that.

00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:55.500
Yeah. What I will say is, especially for kids,

00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.960
I do think church can give you sort of, like,

00:33:58.980 --> 00:34:02.240
a sense of community, a place to meet new friends

00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:04.400
and stuff like that. And, like, all of that is

00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.719
fine. All of that is fine. Unless you listen

00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.500
too hard. And they really want you to listen

00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:18.679
too hard. Yeah, I don't know. If Jack said he

00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.199
wanted to go to church, I would probably find

00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.340
one of his friends that already goes to church

00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:29.699
and figure that out. He's like me. And when I

00:34:29.699 --> 00:34:32.880
went to my cousin's church growing up, because...

00:34:33.099 --> 00:34:36.280
My aunt and uncle were watching us. That didn't

00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:38.940
go well. One day we'll talk about it. I can't

00:34:38.940 --> 00:34:43.559
wait. Also, this is a complete side note. I want

00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.739
to go back through all the episodes, like, realistically,

00:34:46.820 --> 00:34:48.619
probably while you're on your maternity break.

00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.360
And I'm going to, like, find everything that

00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:52.920
we said. Oh, yeah, one day we'll get into that.

00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.400
Have a list ready. Yeah. Because that list is

00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:02.300
long. Yeah. Well, I just, like. It would take

00:35:02.300 --> 00:35:04.639
an extra hour of our time for me to get into

00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.380
the. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I like, that's what

00:35:07.380 --> 00:35:09.019
I'm saying is like, I want to go back and do

00:35:09.019 --> 00:35:12.760
all that because like, there's a lot there. Yeah.

00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:20.659
But anyway, we, uh, we're in the car with Meredith

00:35:20.659 --> 00:35:22.340
and she's going to pick Seth up from the airport.

00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:24.400
And I love that. Like, she's not driving to pick

00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:28.579
him up. She's driven to pick him up. Um, but.

00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.639
As soon as the thought that counts. Oh, yeah.

00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:37.900
But like also in when they go to Bermuda and

00:35:37.900 --> 00:35:40.099
they're riding around on scooters, one of the

00:35:40.099 --> 00:35:42.380
questions that Meredith has asked like in her

00:35:42.380 --> 00:35:43.980
confessionals, when's the last time you drove?

00:35:44.099 --> 00:35:50.480
And she goes, I don't know. I love her so much.

00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:56.639
She's so silly. But Seth gets in the car and

00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.119
then he floats the idea of moving to Ohio and

00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:04.119
Meredith. rebukes that idea. She's not into that.

00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.820
And I don't blame her. What is Ohio? Where is

00:36:07.820 --> 00:36:14.059
Ohio? Hi, viewers from Ohio. Indiana or something.

00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.219
I mean, Columbus is cool. I like Columbus. I

00:36:17.219 --> 00:36:24.260
prefer Columbus, Indiana, truthfully. Really?

00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:31.820
The only thing Ohio has that is good for me is

00:36:31.820 --> 00:36:35.900
Kings Island. Fair. Okay. Maybe Cedar Point.

00:36:36.019 --> 00:36:44.420
I could hear out Cedar Point. Yeah. But I feel

00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:46.219
about Ohio the way Meredith feels about Ohio.

00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.460
She's like, nothing against Ohio. I just don't

00:36:48.460 --> 00:36:53.559
want to live there. Sorry, Ohio. Yeah. And I

00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:56.920
think that that is fine. He wanted to move there

00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:58.619
for work anyway. It's not like he's passionate

00:36:58.619 --> 00:37:03.340
about Ohio. Yeah, but he also worked for Big

00:37:03.340 --> 00:37:09.840
Lots. That's who he's working for? Yes. Seth,

00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.400
you're going to let Big Lots move you to Ohio?

00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.820
Oh, man. When I found that out, that was wild

00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:21.840
to me. But Seth can't take a hint about where

00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:23.500
the conversation is headed. And Meredith, she's

00:37:23.500 --> 00:37:25.119
like, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm like,

00:37:25.139 --> 00:37:26.380
I'm not talking about this. Let's talk about

00:37:26.380 --> 00:37:29.239
something else. Like, it was bad. She's disengaged.

00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:34.760
Yeah, she's disengaging. We go back and forth

00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.340
between Mary's house and Jen's office. And Jen's

00:37:38.340 --> 00:37:41.019
unpacking the luncheon on her FaceTime with Sharif.

00:37:41.099 --> 00:37:43.679
And Mary's unpacking everything with Robert Sr.

00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:48.519
at the same time. I get where Jen's coming from.

00:37:48.579 --> 00:37:50.519
Like, there's not a lot I'll agree with Jen on

00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.440
from the first season because she's so, like,

00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.539
unhinged. But, like, I do 100 % agree with her.

00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:59.280
Like, you can't say things like that, Marianne.

00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.760
Like, she sees her sons and her nephews when

00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:03.440
she hears that comment. And I think she takes

00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:08.460
that, like, very seriously. Yeah. I mean, what

00:38:08.460 --> 00:38:11.739
kind of mother and wife would you be if you didn't

00:38:11.739 --> 00:38:16.480
stand up for her? your relatives exactly someone's

00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.440
like i'm scared of them and like perpetuating

00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:25.179
this idea that already exists in people's heads

00:38:25.179 --> 00:38:28.260
and and not only just perpetuating that but like

00:38:28.260 --> 00:38:31.980
knowing you're gonna be on a show and still talking

00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:43.929
about it like whoa right whoa um And then...

00:38:43.929 --> 00:38:50.170
Oh. And then at the same time... And Mary's also

00:38:50.170 --> 00:38:53.550
unpacking, yeah. Yeah, Mary's, like, heard about

00:38:53.550 --> 00:38:56.269
the grandfather... Yeah, the grandfather comment.

00:38:56.309 --> 00:39:00.269
I'm like... Those two things aren't the same

00:39:00.269 --> 00:39:02.929
thing, though. Apples and oranges, honey. Apples

00:39:02.929 --> 00:39:06.369
and oranges. Like, you have a right to feel that

00:39:06.369 --> 00:39:08.230
way about the grandfather thing, a thousand percent.

00:39:10.269 --> 00:39:14.610
You... cannot say that like what you said is

00:39:14.610 --> 00:39:17.230
justifiable i i don't know i don't know i don't

00:39:17.230 --> 00:39:20.150
know i don't know what to do with that say i'm

00:39:20.150 --> 00:39:25.030
literally racist against my own race but how

00:39:25.030 --> 00:39:28.670
dare you call out something factual about me

00:39:28.670 --> 00:39:38.050
exactly come on um when you guys do her brother's

00:39:38.050 --> 00:39:42.389
jujitsu school and This place, I know for a fact,

00:39:42.429 --> 00:39:45.929
smells like feet. They all have to, right? Like

00:39:45.929 --> 00:39:48.889
everybody's sweaty and everyone's toes are out.

00:39:49.989 --> 00:39:57.050
I also, I find it, I don't know if this is okay.

00:39:57.110 --> 00:40:00.550
I find it strange when grown people do martial

00:40:00.550 --> 00:40:07.269
arts. I feel like if you frame it as like a self

00:40:07.269 --> 00:40:14.019
-defense thing. I understand it more. Okay. But

00:40:14.019 --> 00:40:18.280
also I grew up around wrestling. Oh, yeah. That's

00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:21.000
the other thing about the smell. I managed wrestling

00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.340
since I've been in a wrestling room. I spent

00:40:23.340 --> 00:40:27.719
probably 15 years in a wrestling room. And I'm

00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:32.679
aware of the smells. Oh, it's like a discovery

00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:35.619
zone. I know that's what it smells like. It's

00:40:35.619 --> 00:40:43.110
bad. It's musty. But Whitney's kind of a badass

00:40:43.110 --> 00:40:44.949
and, like, literally picks her brother up who's,

00:40:45.030 --> 00:40:47.409
like, double her size and, like, flips him over

00:40:47.409 --> 00:40:49.730
and, like, onto the ground. And I was like, ooh,

00:40:49.889 --> 00:40:53.829
do that to me. Yeah. I'd let her do that to me.

00:40:54.849 --> 00:40:57.769
100%. I thought she was incredibly strong. Just,

00:40:57.829 --> 00:41:01.610
like, the build of her body. Like, she's tuned.

00:41:02.889 --> 00:41:05.989
Oh, yeah. And she does, like, Pilates and stuff,

00:41:06.090 --> 00:41:07.969
too. Like, you know, she's, like. And she's in

00:41:07.969 --> 00:41:09.469
the gym. She's constantly working out. Yeah.

00:41:09.789 --> 00:41:12.190
Well, that's, like, on her TikTok all the time.

00:41:12.230 --> 00:41:16.570
It's like she is in the gym every day. Good for

00:41:16.570 --> 00:41:20.289
her. And I love her. I love her for it. And then

00:41:20.289 --> 00:41:22.690
we unpack a little bit about Whitney's dad and

00:41:22.690 --> 00:41:25.130
his, like, journey to sobriety and how he didn't

00:41:25.130 --> 00:41:27.650
go to sober living after rehab originally for

00:41:27.650 --> 00:41:36.269
the first time. I hate to say it. Okay. Poor

00:41:36.269 --> 00:41:39.730
guy. It's a bad decision. Let me just say that

00:41:39.730 --> 00:41:42.510
for everyone listening. It's a poor decision

00:41:42.510 --> 00:41:46.150
to not go to some sort of sober living facility

00:41:46.150 --> 00:41:50.929
post -rehab. But I can see how you could come

00:41:50.929 --> 00:41:55.030
out of rehab and be like, I don't need it anymore.

00:41:55.150 --> 00:41:58.250
My cravings are gone. I'm done with work. I just

00:41:58.250 --> 00:42:02.030
want to go back to my life now. I can totally

00:42:02.030 --> 00:42:07.309
see that. Okay. Because I'm also like a girl

00:42:07.309 --> 00:42:10.429
who would not want to have roommates and stuff

00:42:10.429 --> 00:42:12.449
like that. Like I'm not a group living type of

00:42:12.449 --> 00:42:15.550
girl. So I can totally see how it's like, I just

00:42:15.550 --> 00:42:19.809
want to be normal now. I do. Okay. That's when

00:42:19.809 --> 00:42:22.170
you put it that way, that is fair. Like it probably,

00:42:22.230 --> 00:42:24.710
you just want to feel normal and like you haven't

00:42:24.710 --> 00:42:28.110
felt normal for ever. That's fair. Right. Yeah.

00:42:28.929 --> 00:42:31.469
Um, but I guess at this, so at this point he

00:42:31.469 --> 00:42:33.409
had not talked to the kids since Thanksgiving.

00:42:33.469 --> 00:42:36.119
So it's been a couple of months. at that point

00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:40.360
um and that's rough i i don't like that yeah

00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:43.880
i think i think that's going both ways though

00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:52.079
right like he he wants a relationship there but

00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.159
the kids are like you did a bunch of stuff to

00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.360
us that we don't forgive you for yet type of

00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:02.760
thing isn't that what's going on oh no i don't

00:43:03.230 --> 00:43:05.969
We find out at the reunion that, like, Whitney's

00:43:05.969 --> 00:43:09.849
dad stopped talking to Whitney. So, like, I have

00:43:09.849 --> 00:43:13.489
a feeling it's a lot of, I think he might be

00:43:13.489 --> 00:43:18.949
the problem, if I'm being honest. Yeah. It sucks.

00:43:20.769 --> 00:43:25.849
We go over to Henry's birthday party, and I felt

00:43:25.849 --> 00:43:28.289
comfortable at this bowling birthday party. Like,

00:43:28.289 --> 00:43:30.530
something about this was like, I want to be here.

00:43:33.130 --> 00:43:36.789
Yeah. I love a birthday party at a bowling alley.

00:43:37.750 --> 00:43:40.949
Side note, I hate going bowling and then someone

00:43:40.949 --> 00:43:43.469
tries to teach me how to bowl. No, thank you.

00:43:43.670 --> 00:43:47.269
Let me be bad. Let me just throw the ball down

00:43:47.269 --> 00:43:51.730
the lane or whatever. I'm literally not upset

00:43:51.730 --> 00:43:55.929
about losing. Please just leave me alone. Anyway.

00:43:56.449 --> 00:43:58.969
The balloons have Fresh Wolf branding on them,

00:43:59.010 --> 00:44:03.949
which is the boys' hair care brand. Lisa 1000

00:44:03.949 --> 00:44:06.690
% used this as a marketing thing and wrote this

00:44:06.690 --> 00:44:10.289
party off on her taxes. And that's beautiful.

00:44:10.750 --> 00:44:18.489
And I support it. I love it. So Whitney and her

00:44:18.489 --> 00:44:21.210
dad head to sober living because like this is

00:44:21.210 --> 00:44:23.010
like they make the decision that this is what's

00:44:23.010 --> 00:44:26.610
best. And I wonder what the timeline was here

00:44:26.610 --> 00:44:28.510
between like the conversation of the jujitsu

00:44:28.510 --> 00:44:30.489
place and this because like there's no way it

00:44:30.489 --> 00:44:34.880
happened as quickly as it's shown. no but yeah

00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:39.400
i don't know um interested to see right and but

00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.840
when he and her dad um like had that had to say

00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:45.739
we're living it just seems like they're driving

00:44:45.739 --> 00:44:47.760
for hours in his little truck but he is one of

00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:49.980
these guys that drives with the back of his seat

00:44:49.980 --> 00:44:53.719
like at like a 45 degree angle and that stresses

00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.440
me out to no end yeah kenny drives laying down

00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:02.269
too i hate why i it can't be comfortable No,

00:45:02.309 --> 00:45:05.110
like, and he said, he's like, I need my arm to

00:45:05.110 --> 00:45:10.050
be fully extended. And I'm like, why? Why? What?

00:45:11.409 --> 00:45:15.929
I don't like it. But Winnie's kind of excited

00:45:15.929 --> 00:45:17.590
because her dad chose to go to sober living and

00:45:17.590 --> 00:45:20.650
feels really optimistic about that. And I feel

00:45:20.650 --> 00:45:24.429
like, I don't know, like I have, I have experienced

00:45:24.429 --> 00:45:30.960
like dropping people off at rehab and like. I

00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:32.860
get where Whitney's coming from. I just feel

00:45:32.860 --> 00:45:35.400
bad because I know the other side of, like, coming

00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.539
out. Like, when someone comes out of it, like,

00:45:37.579 --> 00:45:40.659
they just go back to it. But I've never dropped

00:45:40.659 --> 00:45:42.840
anyone off at a rehab as nice as, like, this

00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.219
Stoper Living place is. It's, like, a beautiful,

00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:48.119
like, barn in the middle of the... Yeah, I thought

00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:54.400
the same thing. I would live there. 100%. Because

00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:58.179
I had a friend in Louisiana who was living in

00:45:58.179 --> 00:46:04.559
Stoper Living. And this was just a house. It

00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.980
was not nice. Like, it was just a big old house.

00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:12.820
Yeah. So, I don't know. But, yeah, the one he

00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:15.000
wants, he looks really nice. And that's probably

00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.780
really good if you're going to be living somewhere

00:46:18.780 --> 00:46:21.539
like that. Make it less miserable. Like, do everything

00:46:21.539 --> 00:46:23.380
you can to make it as nice as possible. Make

00:46:23.380 --> 00:46:25.280
it as enticing as possible. And you'll probably

00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.820
find a lot more success. 100%. um we go over

00:46:30.820 --> 00:46:33.559
to mary i'm sorry meredith's house and seth's

00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:35.940
leaving for her work and it like it just feels

00:46:35.940 --> 00:46:41.340
heavy and then meredith walks in and interconfessional

00:46:41.340 --> 00:46:43.119
she talks about how there's been a lot of arguing

00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.360
and there's um there's a need for them to spend

00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:53.860
like some intentional time apart and this did

00:46:53.860 --> 00:46:58.780
feel a little put on like but i do feel like

00:46:58.780 --> 00:47:00.659
everything behind it was very real but i feel

00:47:00.659 --> 00:47:04.960
like they were like we need to like show i couldn't

00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.619
tell if it was that or they were just like so

00:47:08.619 --> 00:47:13.639
uncomfortable and like a hyper aware of the cameras

00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:17.059
okay because i got that vibe too but then i was

00:47:17.059 --> 00:47:20.280
like they just in general do not seem comfortable

00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:23.760
so i don't know i i would believe either one

00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:29.900
honestly but um But I feel bad because it's a

00:47:29.900 --> 00:47:33.179
scary place to be in a marriage. And whether

00:47:33.179 --> 00:47:36.039
or not it was put on, we do know that their marriage

00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:39.059
did hit a rocky patch. And I'm very impressed

00:47:39.059 --> 00:47:40.900
that they were able to put this on camera and

00:47:40.900 --> 00:47:43.159
navigate it as well as they did. Even if some

00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.400
of it was put on for the show, I'm okay with

00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.920
that. I feel like they're both incredibly cool

00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.019
-headed in general. I mean, not that they don't

00:47:52.019 --> 00:47:54.400
get emotional. Both of them can. We've seen it

00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:57.820
from both of them. I just feel like, in general,

00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:02.519
they're very aware of their emotions and in control

00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:07.159
of themselves. I agree. It's sort of like a healthy,

00:48:07.340 --> 00:48:09.699
they're dealing with it in a healthy way, but

00:48:09.699 --> 00:48:14.000
it is scary, especially since they were about

00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:19.199
to be empty nesters and all of that. We also,

00:48:19.260 --> 00:48:21.000
as viewers, didn't know what was going on at

00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.900
this point, and so it was like, how deep does

00:48:23.900 --> 00:48:31.599
this go? All right. I love them together also.

00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:34.579
What'd you say? I love them together also. I

00:48:34.579 --> 00:48:36.440
do too. I really love Seth and Meredith. Like,

00:48:36.460 --> 00:48:39.260
I wish they were my parents. Yeah, me too. Honestly.

00:48:39.260 --> 00:48:41.880
I would end up like Brooks though. So entitled

00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:49.210
and crazy. Perfect. I mean, I already am. We'll

00:48:49.210 --> 00:48:51.769
get to this later on, but can you literally imagine

00:48:51.769 --> 00:48:54.989
entering your clothing line in a fashion show

00:48:54.989 --> 00:48:58.030
and it being one sweatsuit? Like, I want to have

00:48:58.030 --> 00:49:04.110
that type of entitlement in my brain. Yes. Yes,

00:49:04.170 --> 00:49:11.250
I can. I feel like Emma, I submitted us for a

00:49:11.250 --> 00:49:13.789
podcast award before we published our first episode.

00:49:14.909 --> 00:49:19.190
actually that's fair yeah yeah it's because i

00:49:19.190 --> 00:49:24.570
believe in us i just i was it was like the new

00:49:24.570 --> 00:49:26.530
like the emerging podcast or whatever i was like

00:49:26.530 --> 00:49:29.309
we're probably those i don't know we are emerging

00:49:29.309 --> 00:49:34.809
um and then we go into the end of the episode

00:49:34.809 --> 00:49:38.309
um heather wants mary to know that she or sorry

00:49:38.309 --> 00:49:41.730
we go to dinner with heather and mary and then

00:49:42.809 --> 00:49:46.090
Heather wants Mary to know that she can be friends

00:49:46.090 --> 00:49:48.530
with her and still be friends with Jen. And,

00:49:48.590 --> 00:49:51.030
like, I think that's a wild thing to have to

00:49:51.030 --> 00:49:56.929
say out loud, but whatever. Mary educates us

00:49:56.929 --> 00:49:59.469
about how carbonated water hurts your ovaries.

00:50:01.170 --> 00:50:05.590
What? What? That can't be a real thing, right?

00:50:05.829 --> 00:50:09.190
It can't be true. You know what? If it is, I

00:50:09.190 --> 00:50:13.280
will continue to drink my Dr. Pepper. It is what

00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:18.239
it is. Heather and Mary get into how Jen attacked

00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:22.300
Mary's marriage, and Mary tells Heather in no

00:50:22.300 --> 00:50:26.380
uncertain terms, it was written in her grandmother's

00:50:26.380 --> 00:50:29.760
will for her to get married to Robert Sr. I want

00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.900
you to remember this moment right here. Yeah,

00:50:32.940 --> 00:50:39.980
it was in her will. In her will. And then Heather

00:50:39.980 --> 00:50:42.559
understands on some level that Mary chose faith

00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:47.659
over love in this situation. And she empathizes

00:50:47.659 --> 00:50:50.280
with her over that. And I get that. Well, they

00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.739
are kind of birds of a feather in that way. She

00:50:52.739 --> 00:50:55.559
says she was never like in love with her husband,

00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.219
but she felt like it was the right thing to do

00:50:58.219 --> 00:51:04.659
in the church. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. And I think

00:51:04.659 --> 00:51:08.940
Mary. in some way wanted to honor her grandmother

00:51:08.940 --> 00:51:12.840
and also wanted to be first lady of the church

00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.980
because her grandmother told her that's what

00:51:15.980 --> 00:51:20.360
she wanted so it's like okay i think the more

00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:22.179
and more i think about it i'm like it's weird

00:51:22.179 --> 00:51:26.440
i i'm uncomfortable with it but like that's that's

00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:29.340
not my problem so yeah and also i've never been

00:51:29.340 --> 00:51:32.000
in that situation so like i don't know right

00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:40.030
but yeah If we have the power to summon someone

00:51:40.030 --> 00:51:43.949
from the dead, I want to talk to Mary's grandmother.

00:51:44.809 --> 00:51:48.110
I have so many questions for her. You know her

00:51:48.110 --> 00:51:52.090
story is like, actually, she walked from Indianapolis

00:51:52.090 --> 00:51:56.010
to Salt Lake City with her kids, and that's how

00:51:56.010 --> 00:52:03.750
they got to Salt Lake City. What? Yes. They hated

00:52:03.750 --> 00:52:07.039
our city that much? I don't remember why she,

00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.619
like, I feel, I don't know if it was, like, I

00:52:09.619 --> 00:52:11.320
feel called to this place. I don't know, but

00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:14.739
she lived in Indy, yeah. That's why Mary has

00:52:14.739 --> 00:52:19.480
a house in Carmel. What? We've talked about this.

00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:22.599
Mary has a house in Carmel. I have pregnancy,

00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:27.079
Brandon. I can't remember my own birthday. Yeah,

00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:29.960
it's in, um, it's not that far from where I lived

00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:35.090
at the rail yard. How often is she in Carmel?

00:52:37.010 --> 00:52:39.610
I mean, it cannot be that often. I mean, the

00:52:39.610 --> 00:52:43.690
house is... One of her neighbors was asked about

00:52:43.690 --> 00:52:49.929
it in some article, because, like, when... I

00:52:49.929 --> 00:52:53.250
think that she's been here once since the show

00:52:53.250 --> 00:52:54.750
started filming, but she has, like, seven or

00:52:54.750 --> 00:52:58.369
eight houses. Oh, yeah, that's true. She might

00:52:58.369 --> 00:53:01.769
be at Airbnb or whatever. oh no they don't rent

00:53:01.769 --> 00:53:03.489
no like the houses are empty when they're not

00:53:03.489 --> 00:53:04.670
there but that's what the neighbor said is like

00:53:04.670 --> 00:53:06.510
we've never met her we don't know who this woman

00:53:06.510 --> 00:53:11.769
is you don't know what you're in for but if mary

00:53:11.769 --> 00:53:13.869
ever comes to andy i'll take her to like mary

00:53:13.869 --> 00:53:15.730
cosby i will take you to dinner i love you i'm

00:53:15.730 --> 00:53:19.269
obsessed with you emma will have to be fine with

00:53:19.269 --> 00:53:23.210
it i have lots of questions for you but yes i

00:53:23.210 --> 00:53:26.710
agree i would love to like hear mary or mama

00:53:26.710 --> 00:53:30.750
cosby's story because i think that I mean, you

00:53:30.750 --> 00:53:35.230
walked with your kids from Indianapolis in the

00:53:35.230 --> 00:53:37.530
Midwest to Salt Lake City, Utah. Like, I mean,

00:53:37.550 --> 00:53:39.110
yeah, they, like, hitchhiked or whatever. But,

00:53:39.150 --> 00:53:43.369
like, I'm just like, what? Why did you do that?

00:53:43.469 --> 00:53:46.829
And also, what is the deal with your husband?

00:53:46.929 --> 00:53:49.909
And also, what's the deal with Mary? And what's

00:53:49.909 --> 00:53:54.329
the deal with your daughter? I have so many questions

00:53:54.329 --> 00:54:02.199
for you. I agree. But yeah. Oh, and we have some

00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:08.219
reviews from Apple Podcasts and Spotify. This

00:54:08.219 --> 00:54:11.340
is actually really cool. So we got two five -star

00:54:11.340 --> 00:54:16.639
reviews on Apple Podcasts. Do you want to read

00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:19.880
the first one or the second one? I don't care.

00:54:20.019 --> 00:54:22.559
I'll do the second one. I love you all equally.

00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:29.860
Perfect. So Chipper072198 gives a review titled,

00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:34.099
Travis and Emma, your new escape. This person

00:54:34.099 --> 00:54:36.579
said, I absolutely adored the conversations between

00:54:36.579 --> 00:54:38.559
Travis and Emma. Their chemistry is undeniable

00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:41.260
and the way they explore multifaceted topics

00:54:41.260 --> 00:54:43.880
makes it easy to get lost and escape reality

00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:46.639
for a while. It's the perfect podcast to dive

00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:49.099
into if you want to step away from your own thoughts

00:54:49.099 --> 00:54:51.260
and enjoy a pure, honest conversation between

00:54:51.260 --> 00:54:54.679
two deeply engaging hosts. I want this person

00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:58.199
to write my memoir. I want to give that person

00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.059
a kiss on the mouth. I love you. I love you so

00:55:01.059 --> 00:55:05.360
much. Thank you. That was so great. You're so

00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:11.449
nice. And then we had AKA Space. who said the

00:55:11.449 --> 00:55:14.469
world the world needs more of this all the way

00:55:14.469 --> 00:55:17.969
from canada two people with a gift for gab you

00:55:17.969 --> 00:55:20.489
have no idea how much i love lauren hill by the

00:55:20.489 --> 00:55:24.170
way side note charming entertaining and a dash

00:55:24.170 --> 00:55:27.070
of spice relatable banter you don't want to miss

00:55:27.070 --> 00:55:33.219
i love that on your love you and then um Our

00:55:33.219 --> 00:55:35.079
friend Morgan left us a Spotify comment reminding

00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:36.960
us that she loves us. And Morgan, I know you're

00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:38.340
listening right now. We love you to the moon

00:55:38.340 --> 00:55:39.760
and back. You're an incredible artist. You're

00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:41.159
incredible at everything. You're perfect. You're

00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:43.739
beautiful. You're amazing. Also, I just saw your

00:55:43.739 --> 00:55:46.400
most recent TikTok and you are still looking

00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:50.960
incredibly hot. Wow. Literally a model. Like,

00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:55.300
God. And then our friend Elena encouraged us

00:55:55.300 --> 00:55:59.039
with a let's go. That always reminds me of Thick

00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:00.679
David when I hear that because I'm just like,

00:56:00.699 --> 00:56:04.489
I love that so much. this golden retriever my

00:56:04.489 --> 00:56:09.269
mom my mom has been like periodically calling

00:56:09.269 --> 00:56:12.429
me like every once in a while and she'll just

00:56:12.429 --> 00:56:15.929
like not even mention that she's been listening

00:56:15.929 --> 00:56:18.610
to the podcast and just start responding to something

00:56:18.610 --> 00:56:22.050
i said in a podcast like months ago and i have

00:56:22.050 --> 00:56:27.239
to be like And then it finally clicks for me.

00:56:27.579 --> 00:56:30.679
The most recent one, I don't even remember what

00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:32.539
we were talking about. Oh, it must have been

00:56:32.539 --> 00:56:35.099
Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And I was saying,

00:56:35.420 --> 00:56:38.820
but she didn't apologize, though. Where did she

00:56:38.820 --> 00:56:43.340
say she's sorry? My mom called me. She was like,

00:56:43.460 --> 00:56:49.179
you think that way because of me. I'll tell you

00:56:49.179 --> 00:56:52.940
one better. Josh, my husband Taylor, who we're

00:56:52.940 --> 00:56:56.530
going to have on the podcast soon, was over at

00:56:56.530 --> 00:56:58.869
my house the other day. And she goes, hey, Travis,

00:56:58.949 --> 00:57:00.610
can I ask you a question? And I was like, yeah.

00:57:00.650 --> 00:57:06.730
She goes, you're 27? And I was like, what? What

00:57:06.730 --> 00:57:10.750
do you mean? And she goes, it's what you tell

00:57:10.750 --> 00:57:12.289
people on the podcast. And I was like, and you

00:57:12.289 --> 00:57:14.309
better shut your whore mouth and go along with

00:57:14.309 --> 00:57:22.730
it. Mentally, I'm 16 years old. And she goes,

00:57:22.789 --> 00:57:25.230
well, I'm also 27. So what do I tell them when

00:57:25.230 --> 00:57:26.909
I come on the podcast? I said, you can tell them

00:57:26.909 --> 00:57:28.670
whatever the fuck you want. And dear listener,

00:57:28.789 --> 00:57:34.530
just know if Taylor says that she's 27 and I

00:57:34.530 --> 00:57:39.349
say that I'm seven years older than her. No,

00:57:39.409 --> 00:57:44.610
I'm not. She could be 21 for all I know. There

00:57:44.610 --> 00:57:50.769
it is. Dear listener, we love you. This is, it's

00:57:50.769 --> 00:57:55.340
been a, My energy is weird today. I'm exhausted.

00:57:55.460 --> 00:57:58.199
It's been a long week. But thank you for being

00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.800
here. Thank you for loving us. Thank you for

00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:04.719
just being a part of this. I love this so much.

00:58:05.420 --> 00:58:08.199
Emma, what do you have to say to the people?

00:58:09.300 --> 00:58:11.900
I love you. I can't believe you listened to our

00:58:11.900 --> 00:58:15.739
podcast, but keep doing that. And you're so smart

00:58:15.739 --> 00:58:18.119
for listening to our podcast. And I hope it made

00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:23.289
you giggle today. We should start signing off

00:58:23.289 --> 00:58:26.530
the way we sign off with each other on FaceTime.

00:58:27.730 --> 00:58:30.510
Oh, dear viewer, you're perfect. I love you.

00:58:30.530 --> 00:58:34.150
You are hot and sexy and tan and skinny and tall.

00:58:34.730 --> 00:58:38.730
And you are the perfect listener. And dear listener,

00:58:38.929 --> 00:58:42.329
you are the perfect dresser. You are the perfect

00:58:42.329 --> 00:58:48.780
hiker. You are the perfect... You're the perfect

00:58:48.780 --> 00:58:51.980
commenter on a podcast and we love you and everything's

00:58:51.980 --> 00:58:53.639
going to be great and you're going to have an

00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:54.940
amazing day. We love you.