Smurf hormones, billionaire breakups, AI therapy, and wagon wheel watusi.

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Hi, I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is Bestie

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Approved. What's the last song you listened to?

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I was literally about to ask you that. I was

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going to find it. Mine was Check Yes Juliet by

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We The Kings. That was a good one. Yeah. Mine

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was Lift You Up by Jessie Ware and Romy. Something

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dancey. How are we doing? What are we doing?

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What are we doing? You tell me. What's on your

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mind today? So tomorrow, I'll be 14 weeks pregnant.

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How's that going? And honestly, it's fine. Like,

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I'm fine, right? But my gums are swollen, and

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we had an incident. With the toilet seat. Okay,

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so here's the deal. I was getting ready this

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past weekend and I go to go pee as one does.

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And I noticed that where one would sit on my

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toilet seat. is blue and I know it can't have

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been blue for very long because I clean every

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room in the house gets cleaned once a week so

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like it hasn't been that long but I was just

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dumbfounded because like I couldn't wipe it off

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because I was thinking maybe like we got new

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pants and like the dye stuck to our skin which

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stuck to the toilet seat that was my initial

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hypothesis but then i couldn't wipe it off and

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that like washes off really easily typically

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so against my better judgment i resort to the

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chat gpt because you can't just look up blue

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toilet seat it's gonna just try to sell you blue

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toilet seat right anyway so i'm like Hi, ChatGPT,

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my toilet seat is blue. What could that possibly

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be from? It's turning blue. And it said, a toilet

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seat turning blue, especially mysteriously such

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as this, can definitely be surprising. Here are

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the most common explanations and number one,

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number one on the list. hormones especially during

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pregnancy what it says this is the most common

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and well -documented reason what what what what

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what it says something about increased hormone

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levels react with certain materials in the toilet

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seat that cause it to turn blue or purple it's

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sometimes called chrome hydrosis when sweat reacts

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with surfaces and can cause color changes what

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in the Can you imagine if that's how you found

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out you were pregnant, though? Like, if you didn't

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already know, and, like, you just Googled, why

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is the toilet seat blue? You're just like, everywhere

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I go, I'm leaving a blue toilet seat. I'm a smurf.

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Can you imagine? What if we were still working

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in our old office where, like, all the girls

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shared a bathroom and all the boys shared a bathroom,

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and one day someone's like, why the fuck is the

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toilet seat blue? Oh, my God. And I have to be

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like, oh, my God. Anyway, so. Basically, I've

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turned into a Martian because my sense of smell

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is something out of a comic book. Like I'm a

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superhero and I'm turning shit blue. So that's

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where we are in pregnancy. I'm so happy to be

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here with you. My God. It makes me so happy.

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So you and I have an obsession with notebooks,

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right? Yeah, you really have an obsession with

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all things... School supplies. Stationery. Yeah,

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anything you can find in an office depot. So,

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do you ever do the thing where you buy a notebook

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because you have this, like, vision of who you

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want to be? Literally, no. Seriously? No, no.

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I get off, like, I would actually come to...

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finishing off a notebook and so i have notebooks

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that have been because i also do this thing where

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i buy like 13 notebooks at a time it's a problem

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okay like when i buy notebooks i buy 50 of them

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right but i i still have some laying around from

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probably five years ago because it's not done

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until like it's full and i'll just fill it with

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anything i'm one of those people that gets like

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super dramatic and will like schedule what my

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day should look like every single day like with

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time stamps and everything and so I'll like have

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a million of iterations of those and I'll like

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journal I'll do this I'll do that it's like very

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incoherent I hope no one ever finds my notebooks

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ever sure but no I don't I I love the idea of

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those notebooks that are like just the dots.

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People were doing those forever. What are those

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called? Those are bullet journal. Yeah. I love

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those. If I were an organized lass, I would have

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a bullet journal. And I think they're beautiful

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and people are really creative with them. And

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I like the idea, but I just don't, I don't have

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it in me. So I get, um. emails because I signed

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up for the email list from the stationery company

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on TikTok called Bungu and there's this notebook

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that they sent me and it's it's just a notebook

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it's like it's fine it's $105 and I want it so

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bad $105 is it 5 ,000 pages um it's 700 and 700

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something let me see It's 730 pages. It is a

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two -year notebook. What in the fuck makes it

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$105? The aesthetic, I think. Bungie, please

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sponsor the podcast. You're paying north of a

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dollar a page, mama. What? You're paying more

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than a dollar per page in the notebook. No, you're

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not. Yes, you are. It's 70 pages and $100. 700

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pages. Did I say 70? No. Pregnancy brain. Okay,

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now we know. Okay, I feel a lot better, but not

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really. oh my god a hundred dollars never never

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in my life and you can write this one down i

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will never spend a hundred dollars on a notebook

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ever i would i'd be happy to spend a hundred

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dollars on a notebook but um bunk you please

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sponsor the podcast please god we actually need

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it at this point it will be a financial emergency

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if you don't sponsor the podcast so i spent last

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week most of the day with you on thursday um

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yeah and so you left and i spent all of my time

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online as i always do oh i didn't at all right

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um i went home and i started editing the podcast

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and i went to bed i woke up the next morning

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and i found out the girls were fighting which

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sparked a new series that i would like to call

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mama let's research Because I went down a deep

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rabbit hole of the Donald Trump, Elon Musk timeline

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of their feud. So Friday, May 30th. So the Friday

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before last week was Elon Musk's final day as

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a special government employee at Doge because

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he wanted to find fraud, waste and abuse that.

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He promised to save, what, like $20 billion,

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and we got nothing out of it. It's fine. They

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have a press conference. Donald Trump is talking

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about how Elon Musk's a genius and how the work

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of Doge will continue. He gave Elon Musk a key,

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and it's a gift that he reserves for, quote,

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very special people, and Elon Musk said it was

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amazing. It was compliments, compliments, compliments.

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Trump said that Doge employees are geniuses and

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everything is great and they're best friends.

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They're happy. I don't know where Elon Musk goes,

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but he leaves the White House. He's not a government

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employee anymore. He proceeds to take to Twitter

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where he calls the great big beautiful bill an

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abomination. And to be fair to Elon Musk, his

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whole thing was like, we're going to cut government

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spending. big, beautiful bill is going to add

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$2 .4 trillion to the deficit. So I get that.

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And Moody's was the last holdout for the United

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States perfect credit rating. And back in May,

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they downgraded our credit. Can I just ask a

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question? What the fuck was his title? What gave

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him the right to be in the White House? a part

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of he was basically a part of the cabinet like

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i'm so confused that is a great question that

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no one's really been able to answer for me did

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he just decide one day i am a billionaire i am

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in charge of all of these things and so now it's

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my turn to go in the white house ring -a -ling

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-ling donnie please let me in there under the

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guise of cutting spending like what and also

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Didn't we get confirmation that he was on ketamine

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the whole time? Like he was fucked up the whole

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time he was there. I mean, he said that he was

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taking ketamine. Yes. Yeah. So he was tranquilized.

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Take ketamine. I don't care. I am all for. Let

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me just put it on the record. I'm all for a little

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ketamine drip. Don't get me wrong. Don't get

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me wrong. Right. But also, do I think you need

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to be in the White House in your K -hole? I think

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you need to be at the club. Or in the safety

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of your home. Maybe. Or at the doctor's office.

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Anywhere without cameras? Really? Probably. Somewhere

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safe. Oh, my God. He donated, what, $300 million

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to Trump's campaign, and that's what gave him

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the authority to be a special government employee.

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That's fine. Oh, I'm so happy. Okay. So, calls

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the, or tweets that the Great Big Beautiful Bill

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is a disgusting abomination. Elon Musk, the spending

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bill contains the largest increase in the debt

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ceiling in U .S. history. It is the debt slavery

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bill. And then the U .S. Joint Economic Committee

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reports that the total gross national debt as

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of June 4th was $36 .21 trillion, which is a

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$1 .5 trillion year -over -year increase and

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a $10 .29 trillion increase from five years ago.

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There's a lot going on there as far as debt goes.

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And then the following day, Elon Musk wakes up

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and he's just, he's having a time. He chooses

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violence. So he starts digging up old tweets

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from Donald Trump talking about like how the

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government's spending money and he's like using

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it as like receipts. Like, oh, I couldn't agree

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more, Donald. Like, what's good? Like, what are

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we doing? And then... Donald Trump responds at

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this press conference that he's at saying it's

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some sort of Trump derangement syndrome and that

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Elon Musk woke up one morning and the glamour

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was gone. And like that says to me like, oh,

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you believe that being in the Trump administration

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is glamorous and that's fine. I hate to polarize

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our crowd here. But yeah, if you support Donald

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Trump in any way, shape, or form, I would argue

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you are delusional and under the guise of a cult.

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But anyway. So then, Trump says that Elon Musk

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knew about everything in the bill from the very

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beginning. and Elon Musk comes back and says

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this is false, which is, I know it's a stretch

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to think that Donald Trump could say anything

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false, but here we go. So Elon's little thumbs

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get right to work, and he starts unloading tweets

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directed at Trump. So the exact quote was, without

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me, Trump would have lost the election, Democrats

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would control the House, and Republicans would

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be 51 -49 in the Senate. And then, an hour later,

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He tweets the infamous tweet alleging that the

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real reason the Epstein files haven't been released

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is because Trump's name shows up on them. Which

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we already knew. I was so confused by that. We

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already knew that. They were friends. We have

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pictures of him with the man himself. We have

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pictures of him with Maxine. We have pictures.

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We've had pictures of the flight logs. Who's

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Maxine? Ghislaine. Ghislaine Maxwell. My brain's

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doing funny things today. My brain is like close

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enough to anything. You can convince me of anything

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today. That's actually hilarious. I guess he

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regretted saying that because then he starts.

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feeling nostalgic about his time with his best

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friend he starts talking about or he starts responding

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to tweets that say this is a shame you guys are

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better than this like and he's like oh no i couldn't

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agree more and like he starts kind of rolling

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back some of what he said and then what's her

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face laura loomer says to elon musk like a parent

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who's like trying to get two kids to apologize

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to each other please tweet something nice about

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trump tonight oh please and the way that you

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gunned to my head you couldn't get me to tweet

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that like in public i i that that was a wild

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thing to say but like mind you the man owns twitter

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and you're telling him please tweet but like

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can you imagine being like being laura loomer

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and like deciding i'm the one to broker peace

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between donald trump and elon musk like everyone

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in their little circle has a god complex like

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everyone yes that associates with them thinks

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that they are the almighty power and that they

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can control anyone and so yeah she thought she

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was mommy but if you ever want if you ever just

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need to have a time on twitter start scrolling

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through some of the replies to those tweets because

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like it is the most toxic uncomfortable place

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i've ever been in my life to the point where

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like i started getting pushed tweets from like

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all right maga and i was like i don't i i'm gonna

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delete no yeah they're deluded and they're crazy

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on twitter because they think no one can find

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out who they are it's the wild west yeah they

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are riding that dick for real it is insane anyway

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so Then Steve Bannon says that the federal government

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should, quote, initiate a formal investigation

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of Elon Musk's immigration status, because that's

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what we need to make this about right now. Like,

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this is going to speak to a point that I have

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in a minute. So the next day, Donald Trump says

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he isn't thinking about Elon Musk. He's letting

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us know that. Great. it's so toxic x yeah girl

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i'm not even thinking about him today i haven't

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even thought about him today and then later that

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day on air force one he reminds us that he's

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not thinking about i hope he does well with tesla

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oh my god and then he decides he's getting rid

00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:23.620
of his tesla that he was gifted on the front

00:16:23.620 --> 00:16:26.440
lawn of the white house oh i forgot about that

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I just, I cannot. Like, it's so Pride Month.

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It's so, oh. So he's getting rid of the Tesla

00:16:34.309 --> 00:16:37.289
that he was gifted on the front lawn. Elon Musk

00:16:37.289 --> 00:16:39.470
goes and he deletes a bunch of the tweets. And

00:16:39.470 --> 00:16:42.730
then Trump says he has no desire to fix the relationship.

00:16:43.490 --> 00:16:49.429
Fine. Great. MAGA gets involved, though. And

00:16:49.429 --> 00:16:52.889
you know how they talk about constantly, like,

00:16:52.990 --> 00:16:56.340
the left is trying to. project their gender ideologies

00:16:56.340 --> 00:16:58.940
on everything so jesse waters is talking about

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this is how men fight you do this and then you

00:17:01.179 --> 00:17:03.080
go have sex with your girlfriend after that what's

00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:05.900
the big deal and then you've got some of the

00:17:05.900 --> 00:17:09.180
worst people on god's green earth talking about

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how some of you guys can't handle two high agency

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males going at it and it really shows and this

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is a direct wait this is direct communication

00:17:18.619 --> 00:17:22.069
it's fallow centric Versus indirect communication,

00:17:22.289 --> 00:17:25.029
which is gynocentric. I understand you all aren't

00:17:25.029 --> 00:17:29.089
used to it. And then another one says Trump and

00:17:29.089 --> 00:17:30.990
Elon aren't attacking one another in a way that

00:17:30.990 --> 00:17:34.309
can't be fixed. People forget how men with testicles

00:17:34.309 --> 00:17:36.710
spar. You two are watching people with balls

00:17:36.710 --> 00:17:38.950
the size of the moon debate an issue. This is

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what masculinity looks like. I do not understand

00:17:42.650 --> 00:17:47.089
that at all. What do you mean? It's straight

00:17:47.089 --> 00:17:52.309
white male to be petty online and tweet at each

00:17:52.309 --> 00:17:56.650
other. What do you mean? I don't for the life

00:17:56.650 --> 00:18:00.589
of me understand how. I don't understand why

00:18:00.589 --> 00:18:03.349
gender got brought into it. That's beyond me.

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But is it because everyone was calling them gay?

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I don't think so. I don't know. But like, that's

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the only reason I can think of that they were.

00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:16.559
I just don't get it. I don't get it. I don't

00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:20.099
get it. I don't get it. Did you see, while we're

00:18:20.099 --> 00:18:23.180
on this, did you see the tweet? It was like the

00:18:23.180 --> 00:18:26.160
video of Donald Trump tripping on the stairs

00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:29.000
on the way onto Air Force One. After Donald Trump

00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:34.259
made one of his campaign... Yes! well joe biden

00:18:34.259 --> 00:18:36.380
tripped going up the stairs i thought the same

00:18:36.380 --> 00:18:38.740
exact thing i was like he clowned joe biden for

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that but i saw this tweet that was that said

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elon turned on his vibrator i did see that but

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that is god punishing you for your bad doing

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your sins yeah how are you gonna make fun of

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sleepy joe for tripping on the stairs and then

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do the same exact thing and not even address

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it i can't The whole thing's a mess. And then

00:19:03.420 --> 00:19:07.359
the long and short of it is, is that Elon Musk

00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.839
has taken a $34 billion hit to his personal net

00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:14.480
worth, which coincidentally is also the GDP of

00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:19.099
Iceland. Such a gross, gross thing. It's like,

00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:23.579
it would take a lot for me to feel bad for a

00:19:23.579 --> 00:19:28.000
billionaire. Like, a lot. Right. So my question

00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:30.819
at the end of this for Elon Musk is, was it worth

00:19:30.819 --> 00:19:35.940
it? Because MAGA has turned on him. You've got

00:19:35.940 --> 00:19:38.900
far, far, far right who has turned on him. You've

00:19:38.900 --> 00:19:41.460
got the people that want him to make up who are

00:19:41.460 --> 00:19:44.220
saying, well, this is just how it goes. And that's

00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:46.819
a weird middle spot to be in. But it's like the

00:19:46.819 --> 00:19:51.019
people who supported you so deeply now hate you

00:19:51.019 --> 00:19:55.180
because you turned on. their deity, their God,

00:19:55.299 --> 00:19:57.200
whatever you want to call him, was it worth it?

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And to me, it's like you paid $300 million or

00:20:02.700 --> 00:20:05.980
whatever to this campaign, which immediately

00:20:05.980 --> 00:20:10.500
turned everyone with a social conscience against

00:20:10.500 --> 00:20:15.519
you. Every liberal or left -leaning person gave

00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:19.480
up their Tesla, got a Rivian or whatever, right?

00:20:19.579 --> 00:20:24.579
And now who do you have? Right. You decided to

00:20:24.579 --> 00:20:28.220
subscribe yourself. You don't even have her.

00:20:28.660 --> 00:20:33.460
Oh, that you decided to subscribe yourself to

00:20:33.460 --> 00:20:38.339
the far right. And now that has gone to shit

00:20:38.339 --> 00:20:42.160
because you whatever. So now who do you have,

00:20:42.180 --> 00:20:46.980
Elon? Who is who is. coming for you it makes

00:20:46.980 --> 00:20:50.099
me think of that time he did a stream and everybody

00:20:50.099 --> 00:20:53.099
kept saying you have no friends you'll never

00:20:53.099 --> 00:20:56.480
have friends Can you imagine being bullied in

00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.339
your 50s? I can't. And when you have that much

00:21:00.339 --> 00:21:02.420
money, you could literally just fall off the

00:21:02.420 --> 00:21:04.799
face of the earth if you wanted to. But instead,

00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:07.559
you decide to be in the public eye, and now literally

00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.220
everyone hates you on both sides of the fence.

00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:14.319
Right. You could tell he was feeling bad for

00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.160
himself that night, though, because he started

00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.140
retweeting every kind thing anyone had ever said

00:21:19.140 --> 00:21:22.500
about him. And the way that these people act

00:21:22.500 --> 00:21:26.720
like he is... actually a deity like they're like

00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:28.960
he's here for the the sake of humanity you people

00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:32.839
don't understand the amount of gratuitous like

00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:35.539
i love you i love you and then like but he was

00:21:35.539 --> 00:21:37.619
retweeting all that and i'm like like you could

00:21:37.619 --> 00:21:40.279
very clearly see he's he was in his feelings

00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:42.880
in those moments but i'm like you people are

00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:45.440
trying to make someone with 800 billion dollars

00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.700
feel better like like do you not get it he can

00:21:48.700 --> 00:21:51.500
just check his bank account mama he'll feel fine

00:21:51.500 --> 00:21:56.349
he he lost the gdp of iceland and he's still

00:21:56.349 --> 00:21:59.369
a billionaire he'll be okay he will be a billionaire

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until the day he dies regardless of what he does

00:22:01.470 --> 00:22:04.549
there's literally nothing he could do that would

00:22:04.549 --> 00:22:07.170
take away the amount of money he has like it

00:22:07.170 --> 00:22:11.349
is such an unfathomable amount of wealth that

00:22:11.349 --> 00:22:15.630
he has that you you should see that it's stupid

00:22:15.630 --> 00:22:17.609
that he's in the public eye at all well that

00:22:17.609 --> 00:22:20.930
was the fucked up thing was like i when i was

00:22:20.930 --> 00:22:24.539
like doing research mama i was going down the

00:22:24.539 --> 00:22:27.160
rabbit hole and i was like these numbers can't

00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:30.099
be right that's how that's how unfathomable the

00:22:30.099 --> 00:22:33.319
numbers were it is so insane and i don't think

00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.880
the general population has a good idea of what

00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:44.140
a billion looks like no it it's if you had a

00:22:44.140 --> 00:22:48.319
million dollars one thousand times like That

00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:53.500
is such an unfathomable thing that like... How

00:22:53.500 --> 00:22:56.119
can you feel bad for this guy who's taking the

00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:59.779
mentality of they're being mean to me. Meanwhile,

00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:05.759
he owns Tesla. He owns SpaceX. He owns Twitter

00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:08.099
on which you are seeing this. Can you imagine

00:23:08.099 --> 00:23:11.740
owning a fucking spaceship? Have you been recently

00:23:11.740 --> 00:23:15.599
to... Okay, my grandparents are snowbirds. So

00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:19.289
they spend half the... year in florida and they

00:23:19.289 --> 00:23:22.589
live i don't know close to coco beach i'm not

00:23:22.589 --> 00:23:26.650
gonna dox them right they can see big planes

00:23:26.650 --> 00:23:29.809
taking off from port canaveral yes yes they they

00:23:29.809 --> 00:23:32.670
see the spaceship launches they like them they

00:23:32.670 --> 00:23:34.450
send me pictures of them all the time whatever

00:23:34.450 --> 00:23:39.009
okay i've i went to visit them last time i was

00:23:39.009 --> 00:23:42.809
in florida and i've driven by the spacex like

00:23:43.609 --> 00:23:47.250
compound whatever you want to call it it is insane

00:23:47.250 --> 00:23:51.690
like it's actually insane it's so humongous there

00:23:51.690 --> 00:23:54.890
are thousands of people working there probably

00:23:54.890 --> 00:23:58.130
hundreds whatever but so many people who are

00:23:58.130 --> 00:24:03.029
working there it is insane and that man owns

00:24:03.029 --> 00:24:07.150
all of that why would you ever feel bad for him

00:24:07.150 --> 00:24:10.990
that's the whole thing and it's like I think

00:24:10.990 --> 00:24:13.750
this is where we've come to as a big part of

00:24:13.750 --> 00:24:18.109
our society is you worship wealth. It's how the

00:24:18.109 --> 00:24:20.849
Kardashians are who they are. It's how Donald

00:24:20.849 --> 00:24:22.990
Trump got elected to be president because he's

00:24:22.990 --> 00:24:24.569
a billionaire, so he's got to be smart, right?

00:24:24.730 --> 00:24:29.150
That's the whole thing. And I'm like, when it

00:24:29.150 --> 00:24:31.670
comes to this whole thing of Elon Musk is here

00:24:31.670 --> 00:24:33.990
to save humanity, maybe, but you're hitching

00:24:33.990 --> 00:24:36.369
your horse to the wrong wagon, man. What are

00:24:36.369 --> 00:24:39.180
you doing? I can't believe that he's here to

00:24:39.180 --> 00:24:42.980
save humanity. The man has billions of dollars

00:24:42.980 --> 00:24:48.619
and is not fighting for world hunger to be resolved.

00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.839
He's not fighting for immigrants rights. He's

00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:56.000
not fighting for... Anyone who's going through

00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:59.140
strife or struggle, he's not doing that at all.

00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:04.619
He decided to back up a guy who backs up racist

00:25:04.619 --> 00:25:10.759
white people. What? I just I don't I could never

00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.319
feel bad for the man, you know, and I understand

00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:18.960
to some. extent seeing the kardashians seeing

00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.079
any influencer really seeing the billionaires

00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:26.359
and being like i want to be like them i want

00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.339
to live that life because it looks so glamorous

00:25:29.339 --> 00:25:33.740
from where they're posting or where they're you

00:25:33.740 --> 00:25:37.079
know what's on tv and whatever but i do think

00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:42.539
we have genuinely lost as for some people a sense

00:25:42.539 --> 00:25:48.440
of reality and and like taking pieces from what

00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:50.619
you see online or what you see from these people

00:25:50.619 --> 00:25:53.940
you idolize and integrating that into your life

00:25:53.940 --> 00:25:57.140
you are like now worshiping them like they're

00:25:57.140 --> 00:26:00.240
a god so that you can have a sliver of what they

00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:04.420
have and i they want you to stay poor that's

00:26:04.420 --> 00:26:06.640
what you don't understand they don't want you

00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.660
to be rich like them because then they're not

00:26:08.660 --> 00:26:16.059
special I mean, that's tea. I really think we've

00:26:16.059 --> 00:26:19.099
lost the plot a little bit there. I think the

00:26:19.099 --> 00:26:21.920
answer is no. It wasn't worth it for Elon Musk.

00:26:22.180 --> 00:26:27.680
I hope, I truly hope that maybe he can redeem

00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.319
himself. I don't know. Maybe he can do something.

00:26:30.460 --> 00:26:32.799
But at the end of the day, I gotta tell you,

00:26:32.819 --> 00:26:36.440
man, I think that this will go down in history

00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:40.950
as... The worst mistake anyone ever made. I think

00:26:40.950 --> 00:26:43.430
he's a clown. I think he should have never affiliated

00:26:43.430 --> 00:26:45.849
himself with politics. I was actually just talking

00:26:45.849 --> 00:26:49.950
about this last night. As a businessman, right?

00:26:50.710 --> 00:26:55.210
Why would you ever associate yourself with one

00:26:55.210 --> 00:26:57.650
political party? It feels like you're limiting

00:26:57.650 --> 00:27:01.309
your customer base for no reason. Because it's

00:27:01.309 --> 00:27:03.089
an incredibly short -sighted way of thinking

00:27:03.089 --> 00:27:07.789
where you... are thinking to yourself what can

00:27:07.789 --> 00:27:10.049
someone do for me for the next four years and

00:27:10.049 --> 00:27:11.990
then I'll pivot in four years that's that's what

00:27:11.990 --> 00:27:15.849
I think it is I get that like I do and I was

00:27:15.849 --> 00:27:17.450
talking I was talking to Kenny about it and he

00:27:17.450 --> 00:27:21.170
was like well when you really appeal to one group

00:27:21.170 --> 00:27:24.210
of people then they're like emphatic about your

00:27:24.210 --> 00:27:25.829
product they're telling their friends about it

00:27:25.829 --> 00:27:28.529
and then it's like a symbol of what you believe

00:27:28.529 --> 00:27:30.569
in whether that's right or not he wasn't like

00:27:30.569 --> 00:27:33.950
taking their side he was just playing devil's

00:27:33.950 --> 00:27:36.650
advocate kind of and and i and i do understand

00:27:36.650 --> 00:27:40.069
that and i can obviously i'm getting on this

00:27:40.069 --> 00:27:43.769
podcast and i'm saying like republicans need

00:27:43.769 --> 00:27:45.690
to get it together their ideas are wrong blah

00:27:45.690 --> 00:27:48.769
blah blah so like i am polarizing people too

00:27:48.769 --> 00:27:53.250
but but i just i'm not trying to sell cars right

00:27:53.250 --> 00:27:55.349
but the ugly other side of what kenny's talking

00:27:55.349 --> 00:28:00.019
about is um the the fact that like yeah they're

00:28:00.019 --> 00:28:03.119
they're so all in on you but the second you like

00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.400
misstep they turn on you so quick well that's

00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:09.259
what i'm saying liberals have already gotten

00:28:09.259 --> 00:28:13.640
rid of their teslas and now that the republican

00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:17.579
deity has denounced elon are the republicans

00:28:17.579 --> 00:28:21.480
gonna do that too so then who's buying them You

00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.720
see what I mean? Right. Like it seems like such

00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:27.539
a silly thing to do to a brand for no reason.

00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.920
And I've said this for years. Elon Musk is the

00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.099
type of guy we were never supposed to know about.

00:28:34.299 --> 00:28:36.200
Oh, a million percent. I wholeheartedly believe

00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:38.119
that he's like a mysterious figure that like

00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:42.279
people are like, who is that? It's like the Rothschilds

00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.180
is what I believe it should have been. I 100

00:28:45.180 --> 00:28:47.920
% agree. He should have been like the Rothschilds.

00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.839
He should have been. like this incredible mind

00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.099
that we never heard from right like he would

00:28:55.099 --> 00:28:59.119
have gone down in history as this guy who used

00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:01.359
his family resources to make this incredible

00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.619
new thing right the tesla and then spread his

00:29:04.619 --> 00:29:09.119
ideas and his people management whatever to spacex

00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.059
and all of that and he still would have gone

00:29:11.059 --> 00:29:13.579
down in history so i i just don't understand

00:29:13.579 --> 00:29:17.339
why He decided to be in the public eye at all.

00:29:17.460 --> 00:29:19.960
I just feel like he should have been this mysterious

00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:24.519
figure no one really felt close to. But now he's

00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:29.019
so accessible. And for what? I agree. I agree.

00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:32.339
You want to know something I don't understand?

00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:34.819
What's something you don't understand? Artificial

00:29:34.819 --> 00:29:41.640
intelligence. Right. I have such a funny relationship

00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:46.380
with her. I do understand the point of, like,

00:29:46.380 --> 00:29:52.299
it learns based off of what it's told. Like,

00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:55.819
it's a machine. You tell it enough things, it

00:29:55.819 --> 00:29:59.940
spits things out. But what I don't understand

00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:06.000
is, like... now it's come to the extent of it

00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:10.789
can spit out a video it can it's like It can

00:30:10.789 --> 00:30:14.329
tell you so many different things that, like,

00:30:14.470 --> 00:30:17.349
how do you know that? Why do you know that? Right.

00:30:17.509 --> 00:30:20.410
I don't understand. I don't understand it either.

00:30:20.769 --> 00:30:24.529
So I was reading this article about a guy who,

00:30:24.650 --> 00:30:26.569
and, like, he doesn't ever say what he typed

00:30:26.569 --> 00:30:29.410
into ChatGPT, but he said that he made a huge

00:30:29.410 --> 00:30:31.970
mistake typing something into ChatGPT that he

00:30:31.970 --> 00:30:34.670
shouldn't have. He got a warning email from OpenAI.

00:30:34.849 --> 00:30:39.059
His account was warned, and then he... was one

00:30:39.059 --> 00:30:42.039
step away from being banned he asked that thing

00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.339
how to build a bomb anyway well it's like i'm

00:30:44.339 --> 00:30:48.160
just like what did he ask it like he had to it

00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.339
had to be like terroristy or like um sexual predator

00:30:52.339 --> 00:30:57.019
e maybe but he started he starts to get into

00:30:57.019 --> 00:30:59.380
like how he couldn't sleep that night i'm like

00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:01.099
he's laying in bed and he's googling can open

00:31:01.099 --> 00:31:03.880
ai forgive me does chat gpt accept apology like

00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:05.460
literally this is what he's saying in this article

00:31:05.460 --> 00:31:10.480
and Then he says, before it cuts it off, before

00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:12.799
the paywall goes on, I outright refuse to pay

00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:15.680
to read this story. I'd spent months relying

00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.859
on this tool. I trained my chat GPT on various

00:31:18.859 --> 00:31:22.900
tasks, and now I've lost it all. And that's,

00:31:22.900 --> 00:31:27.380
I think, the piece. Well, you don't like AI.

00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.880
You are not a huge fan of it. No, I think it's

00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.140
bad for society in general. I think it's bad

00:31:33.140 --> 00:31:39.500
for our brains. Can I just say this man feels

00:31:39.500 --> 00:31:44.319
like the type of guy who also used chat GPT as

00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.000
his girlfriend. There have been lots of those.

00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:50.799
I've been seeing screenshots and like pictures

00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.940
of people like caught in the wild talking to

00:31:53.940 --> 00:31:59.390
their chat GPT girlfriend about like. like literally

00:31:59.390 --> 00:32:02.089
like a text thread you would have with a significant

00:32:02.089 --> 00:32:06.210
other it's scary and it's weird and we we are

00:32:06.210 --> 00:32:08.750
going to lose all of our critical thinking skills

00:32:08.750 --> 00:32:11.049
all of our problem solving skills and all of

00:32:11.049 --> 00:32:15.170
our social skills due to ai and its accessibility

00:32:15.170 --> 00:32:17.990
well so i don't disagree with that because i

00:32:17.990 --> 00:32:21.630
mean open ai has spent upwards of six and a half

00:32:21.630 --> 00:32:26.009
billion dollars to redefine how people interact

00:32:26.009 --> 00:32:30.690
with technology and i i think the opportunities

00:32:30.690 --> 00:32:34.650
and applications that come with ai i think are

00:32:34.650 --> 00:32:36.650
really incredible and i think the other side

00:32:36.650 --> 00:32:41.269
of that that does scare me is this where this

00:32:41.269 --> 00:32:43.650
guy is like this is this is my whole life like

00:32:43.650 --> 00:32:47.309
this and it's it's scary to him to not have it

00:32:47.309 --> 00:32:50.710
and i'm like where were we before and like that's

00:32:50.710 --> 00:32:53.700
kind of the question that i have is like how

00:32:53.700 --> 00:32:56.619
did we get to this place where we became so so

00:32:56.619 --> 00:32:59.319
quickly reliant on it because like I don't know

00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:03.119
if you remember like two or three years ago Chad

00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:05.380
GPT was not that good like it would it would

00:33:05.380 --> 00:33:07.319
outright just lie to you it would make up facts

00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:11.000
like it and it was just kind of doing its own

00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.279
thing out there and it was funny and then now

00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:17.019
it's like It's serious. Real life. And it's a

00:33:17.019 --> 00:33:20.839
problem. And I've already seen people on TikTok

00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:25.140
trying to make the argument that everyone's going

00:33:25.140 --> 00:33:29.839
to use it. So it should just be like almost the

00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:33.119
academic standard or at least be OK with academics

00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:38.339
to use it in an academic setting. And that is

00:33:38.339 --> 00:33:41.000
terrifying to me. And I've said this before,

00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:45.599
but. if it is there and you know it's there you

00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.720
know you can find your answer so fast why wouldn't

00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.140
you use it you're almost silly not to use it

00:33:53.140 --> 00:33:56.519
if you know that you can answer your question

00:33:56.519 --> 00:34:00.279
with the quickness with one prompt right versus

00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.519
scouring the internet or scouring actual books

00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:09.320
god for fucking bid and uh and so it's like I

00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:13.880
think its existence itself and its accessibility

00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.360
with no paywall, nothing like that. I know you

00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:19.739
can pay extra for ChatGPT to do certain things

00:34:19.739 --> 00:34:24.559
and whatever, but it's accessible to everyone.

00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.679
You can use it whenever you want for whatever

00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.599
you want. Basically, its very existence and the

00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.960
fact that it's so accessible is terrifying to

00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.090
me because it feels like... People would be silly

00:34:37.090 --> 00:34:41.869
not to use it, but we're losing the recipe on

00:34:41.869 --> 00:34:45.369
how to use your brain. Right. And I think if

00:34:45.369 --> 00:34:48.469
you never critically think about anything, like

00:34:48.469 --> 00:34:52.710
Kenny. wants to use chat gpt to come up with

00:34:52.710 --> 00:34:55.389
our baby registry he wants to use it to make

00:34:55.389 --> 00:34:57.750
a grocery list he wants to use it for all of

00:34:57.750 --> 00:35:00.429
these things where i'm like your brain needs

00:35:00.429 --> 00:35:03.010
the exercise you are going to have dementia by

00:35:03.010 --> 00:35:06.030
the time you're 45 so i can see an argument for

00:35:06.030 --> 00:35:10.570
like if you are building a startup or something

00:35:10.570 --> 00:35:13.210
and you're like i genuinely don't have time to

00:35:13.210 --> 00:35:16.150
like to grocery like to figure out what i need

00:35:16.150 --> 00:35:18.050
from the grocery store like i can see an argument

00:35:18.050 --> 00:35:20.510
for using it for that then But if you're just

00:35:20.510 --> 00:35:22.409
like sitting on the couch and you're like, chat,

00:35:22.650 --> 00:35:25.389
what should I get? Like that, that to me feels

00:35:25.389 --> 00:35:28.190
a little scary. I don't know. I just feel like

00:35:28.190 --> 00:35:31.809
your brain needs the exercise regardless of where

00:35:31.809 --> 00:35:34.769
you are. I understand that like people are in

00:35:34.769 --> 00:35:38.510
stressful situations and like it's a quick, a

00:35:38.510 --> 00:35:40.889
band -aid thing. But like sometimes you have

00:35:40.889 --> 00:35:43.449
to slow down and create your own grocery list.

00:35:43.510 --> 00:35:46.289
Sometimes you have to slow down and come up with

00:35:46.289 --> 00:35:50.530
your own ideas. I'm talking like. we'll get into

00:35:50.530 --> 00:35:52.869
an argument and he'll ask chat gpt who's right

00:35:52.869 --> 00:35:56.489
oh see i don't like that no and people will use

00:35:56.489 --> 00:36:01.510
it as like a therapist people will ask it i don't

00:36:01.510 --> 00:36:06.670
think that should ever be the case i well the

00:36:06.670 --> 00:36:10.789
the problem that i have with ai therapy is the

00:36:10.789 --> 00:36:15.789
what we have found with the most recent iterations

00:36:15.789 --> 00:36:19.409
of chat gpt and it's An effect called glazing

00:36:19.409 --> 00:36:23.670
where you are basically just told that you're

00:36:23.670 --> 00:36:25.230
right and you're wonderful and you're perfect.

00:36:25.329 --> 00:36:26.949
So like the therapy. It tells you what you want

00:36:26.949 --> 00:36:28.789
to hear. Right. It knows what you want to hear

00:36:28.789 --> 00:36:30.889
because you talk to it every goddamn day. Well,

00:36:30.889 --> 00:36:33.489
you're training it. Yeah. Yeah. And so therapy,

00:36:33.590 --> 00:36:36.849
I feel like, is not effective when you're only

00:36:36.849 --> 00:36:40.010
told what you want to hear. no you're supposed

00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:44.050
to have an objective third party and chat gpt

00:36:44.050 --> 00:36:47.650
deep seek any of these that save your prompts

00:36:47.650 --> 00:36:51.989
and you train it individually are not that they

00:36:51.989 --> 00:36:55.110
are subjective to telling you what you want to

00:36:55.110 --> 00:36:58.409
hear so that you keep talking to it i agree i

00:36:58.409 --> 00:37:01.869
think it's crazy i think it's silly i think that

00:37:02.780 --> 00:37:06.400
If you need chat GPT to tell you how to mow your

00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:10.619
lawn and you need chat GPT to tell you how to

00:37:10.619 --> 00:37:15.300
go about a social situation, you need to touch

00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:18.820
grass. I agree. I think it's terrifying. I think

00:37:18.820 --> 00:37:24.280
we see a huge upswing in early onset dementia.

00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:30.559
I think we see a huge upswing in. I hate to say

00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:33.949
it. I know you have to read. The answers, but

00:37:33.949 --> 00:37:38.250
the illiteracy epidemic happening in our country

00:37:38.250 --> 00:37:42.349
right now is going to go through the roof. We

00:37:42.349 --> 00:37:44.929
are going to have no basic math skills. We're

00:37:44.929 --> 00:37:49.289
going to have nothing, no thinking being done.

00:37:49.449 --> 00:37:52.550
And that's genuinely terrifying to me. How is

00:37:52.550 --> 00:37:54.869
anyone ever going to write a book? How is anyone

00:37:54.869 --> 00:37:56.789
ever going to come up with new ideas or invent

00:37:56.789 --> 00:37:59.389
something? People are using it to write full

00:37:59.389 --> 00:38:02.590
books. And I'm like... Yeah, that's terrifying

00:38:02.590 --> 00:38:05.929
to me. Like, it's... I mean, I think it could

00:38:05.929 --> 00:38:08.530
be cool to read one book written by AI. But,

00:38:08.530 --> 00:38:10.570
like, I think it's like, okay, we know that it

00:38:10.570 --> 00:38:13.769
can do that. Put the book away. Hang it up. You

00:38:13.769 --> 00:38:16.110
know what I mean? Hang it up, yeah. And for me,

00:38:16.150 --> 00:38:19.349
I'm like... for me it's a tool for me it's like

00:38:19.349 --> 00:38:22.150
okay cool i i like that it can brainstorm with

00:38:22.150 --> 00:38:24.750
me like i i like that it can like prove free

00:38:24.750 --> 00:38:27.949
to paper for me whatever the case may be i don't

00:38:27.949 --> 00:38:32.369
like that there are professors that are talking

00:38:32.369 --> 00:38:35.110
about how people will lose the ability to think

00:38:35.110 --> 00:38:39.050
critically on a societal level quickly like it

00:38:39.050 --> 00:38:42.329
will devolve into chat and like he and i i heard

00:38:42.329 --> 00:38:44.670
a professor talking about this recently, where

00:38:44.670 --> 00:38:47.110
he's not afraid of AI taking over like it's in

00:38:47.110 --> 00:38:50.130
a movie or something. He is afraid of AI taking

00:38:50.130 --> 00:38:53.150
over in the sense that people rely on it for

00:38:53.150 --> 00:38:57.010
everything. That's what I'm saying. I don't think

00:38:57.010 --> 00:39:05.170
AI is going to... You know, like iRobot, it's

00:39:05.170 --> 00:39:08.409
not going to be like that, but everyone is already

00:39:08.409 --> 00:39:12.309
as dim as possible. Oh my God, I know. It's hard.

00:39:12.889 --> 00:39:16.110
Let's just get that out in the open. And I think

00:39:16.110 --> 00:39:18.269
that's almost a natural thing. You do the least

00:39:18.269 --> 00:39:21.030
amount of work that you can to get the grade,

00:39:21.110 --> 00:39:24.150
and then you move on. And I get that. That's

00:39:24.150 --> 00:39:26.849
an efficiency thing, and we're taught in America,

00:39:27.050 --> 00:39:30.050
nothing if not efficiency. But we are going to

00:39:30.050 --> 00:39:34.880
lose. any sense of critical thinking creative

00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:39.219
thinking that's a big one for me too people are

00:39:39.219 --> 00:39:42.949
going to lose all internal sense of creativity

00:39:42.949 --> 00:39:46.730
because they don't have to think about that anymore

00:39:46.730 --> 00:39:49.530
they don't have to think like what would be pretty

00:39:49.530 --> 00:39:52.269
here what would sound good in my book here or

00:39:52.269 --> 00:39:55.550
anything like that they're just gonna ask they're

00:39:55.550 --> 00:39:58.909
just gonna ask AI instead of like using that

00:39:58.909 --> 00:40:01.269
part of their brain and that's sad well I mean

00:40:01.269 --> 00:40:03.730
I think the part that I don't understand is like

00:40:03.730 --> 00:40:08.150
how does it know like okay so AI inherently can't

00:40:08.150 --> 00:40:10.460
look at color and be like That looks good together.

00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:12.679
So is it using, like, color theory and being,

00:40:12.739 --> 00:40:14.420
like... Yeah, that's, like, a well -documented

00:40:14.420 --> 00:40:16.440
thing, color theory. So it knows, like, what

00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:18.679
colors look good together, what colors complement

00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:22.179
each other. Can it see color? Maybe that's what

00:40:22.179 --> 00:40:24.320
I don't understand. Is it, like, can it look

00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:27.139
at something and be like, this is red? I mean,

00:40:27.139 --> 00:40:30.760
no. It doesn't have rods and cones in an actual

00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.679
brain, but it understands the concept of color.

00:40:34.940 --> 00:40:37.019
Maybe, well, we all know I don't really understand

00:40:37.019 --> 00:40:40.880
the concept of color. Yeah, Travis is colorblind.

00:40:41.059 --> 00:40:43.559
Yeah. And it's a thing that I haven't been willing

00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.960
to accept. But, yeah, I mean, like, and it knows

00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:49.739
that, like, roses are red and the sky is blue

00:40:49.739 --> 00:40:52.780
and leaves are typically green and in the fall

00:40:52.780 --> 00:40:55.139
they turn yellow and orange and red and, like,

00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:59.179
it knows that. Okay, so it's using knowledge

00:40:59.179 --> 00:41:04.179
and not a sense. I guess. Travis, this is what

00:41:04.179 --> 00:41:07.300
terrifies me about people using AI. How could

00:41:07.300 --> 00:41:10.699
it have a sense of sight, honey? That's what

00:41:10.699 --> 00:41:12.559
I'm trying to figure. I don't understand. It

00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.539
doesn't. It can only understand like conceptually

00:41:15.539 --> 00:41:17.360
speaking. Got it. Like what they talk about in

00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.380
art classes where it's like purple and yellow

00:41:20.380 --> 00:41:23.079
are opposite colors. So when you put them together,

00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:26.659
it's like wah. Okay. Yeah. It's like that. But.

00:41:27.630 --> 00:41:30.670
Still terrifying nonetheless. And also the art

00:41:30.670 --> 00:41:33.349
of it all. The art that... The AI art freaks

00:41:33.349 --> 00:41:36.989
me out. First of all, not art. Hate to say it,

00:41:37.070 --> 00:41:41.730
not art. Fair. But these images that it pops

00:41:41.730 --> 00:41:45.429
out are absolutely terrifying and uncanny. And

00:41:45.429 --> 00:41:47.949
I know that they've come a long way. Normally,

00:41:48.050 --> 00:41:50.489
now they have the right number of fingers and

00:41:50.489 --> 00:41:53.570
all of that jazz. Like, I get it. There's still

00:41:53.570 --> 00:41:57.610
something about it that... is so soulless and

00:41:57.610 --> 00:42:01.090
non -human that's a phenomenon like that's a

00:42:01.090 --> 00:42:03.030
thing it's called uncanny valley is what it's

00:42:03.030 --> 00:42:07.789
called yeah it's so weird it's so weird i thought

00:42:07.789 --> 00:42:09.670
uncanny valley were those people with the weird

00:42:09.670 --> 00:42:12.010
faces it's all the same thing though it's like

00:42:12.010 --> 00:42:14.550
where you recognize that something isn't it's

00:42:14.550 --> 00:42:16.809
supposed to look human but it doesn't look human

00:42:16.809 --> 00:42:19.210
because you can tell that it's not human yeah

00:42:19.210 --> 00:42:21.130
but like even when it spits out a picture of

00:42:21.130 --> 00:42:24.460
a cat i'm like a human brain did not make yeah

00:42:24.460 --> 00:42:28.119
image oh like a lot of it freaks me out like

00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.489
but what's even like i don't Like, even more

00:42:31.489 --> 00:42:34.449
are the AI videos, where it's, like, someone

00:42:34.449 --> 00:42:38.429
whose mouth is not moving quite right, and they

00:42:38.429 --> 00:42:42.670
try to pass it off like they're talking to you.

00:42:42.730 --> 00:42:46.510
And I'm just like, who is this for? Right? And

00:42:46.510 --> 00:42:49.309
I don't understand. Like, you couldn't pay someone

00:42:49.309 --> 00:42:52.730
50 bucks to do a little ad for you? Also, you

00:42:52.730 --> 00:42:54.210
couldn't just pull out your fucking iPhone and

00:42:54.210 --> 00:42:57.190
talk to it yourself? Yeah, I... christ get your

00:42:57.190 --> 00:42:59.670
hair done girl get in front of the camera i don't

00:42:59.670 --> 00:43:02.170
understand yeah i don't understand it like are

00:43:02.170 --> 00:43:05.449
you that busy it's really weird no because you're

00:43:05.449 --> 00:43:08.329
taking the time to type into ai exactly what

00:43:08.329 --> 00:43:11.150
you want her to wear and say and do and look

00:43:11.150 --> 00:43:14.690
like i don't i don't understand the appeal of

00:43:14.690 --> 00:43:18.769
it i have also seen like the ai slot videos of

00:43:18.769 --> 00:43:25.030
like cats who have you seen these No. The ones

00:43:25.030 --> 00:43:26.190
that look like cartoons, is that what you're

00:43:26.190 --> 00:43:28.730
talking about? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're so weird

00:43:28.730 --> 00:43:32.349
and strange. I scroll right through those. Kenny's

00:43:32.349 --> 00:43:33.989
addicted to them. He thinks they're hilarious.

00:43:34.329 --> 00:43:36.909
Are you serious? Yeah. I don't like that. We

00:43:36.909 --> 00:43:39.889
need, we, I don't know. And I don't know what

00:43:39.889 --> 00:43:42.789
we do about it. I'm coming out here loud and

00:43:42.789 --> 00:43:45.250
strong about how uncomfortable it makes me. I

00:43:45.250 --> 00:43:48.949
don't know what the solution is. I think. The

00:43:48.949 --> 00:43:51.750
only thing that makes sense to me is OpenAI,

00:43:52.150 --> 00:43:56.309
Anthropic, DeepSeek, Google Gemini, all of these

00:43:56.309 --> 00:43:59.309
people are going to have to form a consortium

00:43:59.309 --> 00:44:01.690
and get together and be like, this is the limit

00:44:01.690 --> 00:44:05.170
we put on it. This is the line that once we get

00:44:05.170 --> 00:44:09.050
to X point or whatever, we stop developing it.

00:44:09.409 --> 00:44:12.530
Because as it gets more and more advanced, the

00:44:12.530 --> 00:44:15.690
question becomes, what does it have the capability?

00:44:17.869 --> 00:44:20.269
And again, I'm not worried about it taking over

00:44:20.269 --> 00:44:23.230
the world. I am worried about like people becoming

00:44:23.230 --> 00:44:25.429
so dependent on it. So I wonder if it's going

00:44:25.429 --> 00:44:27.369
to become a thing like phones where it's like,

00:44:27.429 --> 00:44:33.250
okay, like we've gotten to, I think, a leveling

00:44:33.250 --> 00:44:36.889
off of people being so obsessed with their phones

00:44:36.889 --> 00:44:41.610
that they can't look up from them. maybe we let

00:44:41.610 --> 00:44:43.130
it get to that point with ai where it's like

00:44:43.130 --> 00:44:45.750
okay people use it to a certain extent and then

00:44:45.750 --> 00:44:48.070
we just accept that as like the reasonable standard

00:44:48.070 --> 00:44:50.849
and then i i don't know but i just like i don't

00:44:50.849 --> 00:44:53.909
can we ever agree about where that is because

00:44:53.909 --> 00:44:57.429
probably not i mean we're not going i feel like

00:44:57.429 --> 00:45:01.050
it's gonna have to come down to like legislation

00:45:01.050 --> 00:45:05.050
at some point because it's like i don't know

00:45:05.050 --> 00:45:08.570
and i see both sides of the argument because

00:45:08.570 --> 00:45:10.809
it's like you want to start a business and you

00:45:10.809 --> 00:45:14.429
know that you want to make bracelets right but

00:45:14.429 --> 00:45:16.389
you don't you don't know anything about starting

00:45:16.389 --> 00:45:19.789
a business and so it it's a tool to help you

00:45:19.789 --> 00:45:24.070
learn about what you need to do just to get started

00:45:24.070 --> 00:45:27.329
or whatever and it's like I don't think that

00:45:27.329 --> 00:45:30.929
should be taken away from everyone. But at the

00:45:30.929 --> 00:45:34.630
same time, it's like, I don't know how we can

00:45:34.630 --> 00:45:37.429
dictate how much people use it. Like maybe that's

00:45:37.429 --> 00:45:40.190
what it is. Maybe it's like you've typed five

00:45:40.190 --> 00:45:43.849
prompts today and now you're done. Maybe. I don't

00:45:43.849 --> 00:45:46.710
know. I mean, I don't know. I don't hate that.

00:45:47.909 --> 00:45:50.309
Do you say please and thank you to chat GPT?

00:45:51.340 --> 00:45:55.420
No. I treat it like my refrigerator. I say please

00:45:55.420 --> 00:45:57.739
and thank you because when the AI takes over,

00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:02.679
I want it to be kind to me. No. I've decided

00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:04.639
to treat it like I would treat a refrigerator.

00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:09.260
And I honestly try not to even use it. I maybe

00:46:09.260 --> 00:46:11.880
use it like once a week. I use it in the sense

00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:14.119
of like I... You use it like you use Google.

00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.139
Yeah. Which is fine. If it's a very hyper specific

00:46:17.139 --> 00:46:21.409
thing. Yeah. Like... the blue toilet seat right

00:46:21.409 --> 00:46:25.349
sure i can't google why is my toilet seat blue

00:46:25.349 --> 00:46:27.489
it's just gonna pop up with a bunch of ads for

00:46:27.489 --> 00:46:31.030
toilet seats that are blue like it's not gonna

00:46:31.030 --> 00:46:35.650
tell me what's going on um whereas i know that

00:46:35.650 --> 00:46:40.989
if i say hey my toilet seat is blue what's happening

00:46:40.989 --> 00:46:45.230
to chat gpt it understands that my toilet seat

00:46:45.230 --> 00:46:47.849
is turning blue well because it can understand

00:46:47.849 --> 00:46:52.389
context yeah yeah and so it's like so it's more

00:46:52.389 --> 00:46:54.690
helpful than google in that way and maybe that's

00:46:54.690 --> 00:46:57.690
maybe that's your line maybe that's what it is

00:46:57.690 --> 00:46:59.789
and that's like kind of what it is for me i use

00:46:59.789 --> 00:47:02.429
it maybe once a week like i said and i will say

00:47:02.429 --> 00:47:04.269
i've used it for some like pregnancy related

00:47:04.269 --> 00:47:08.150
things and that's because every source on google

00:47:08.150 --> 00:47:12.900
is like here, there, everywhere on every topic.

00:47:12.980 --> 00:47:14.940
It's like everyone has their own opinions and

00:47:14.940 --> 00:47:18.159
it's hard to sift through it all. And it's a

00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:21.739
time thing too. It's like a commitment to look

00:47:21.739 --> 00:47:23.539
through all of those and sift through what makes

00:47:23.539 --> 00:47:27.639
sense. Whereas if I'm like, hey, I'm this many

00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.840
weeks pregnant and I just dropped a blood clot

00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.900
or hey, I'm this many weeks pregnant and I literally

00:47:34.900 --> 00:47:37.920
can't get out of bed in the morning. Like it'll

00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.260
just spit out. One, two, three, four, five. Like

00:47:41.260 --> 00:47:44.179
that is so much easier to get through. And I

00:47:44.179 --> 00:47:47.639
get it. I do. Like if you want a quick answer

00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:49.360
to what is happening right in front of you, it

00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:53.769
is the easiest thing. would i use it if i were

00:47:53.769 --> 00:47:57.809
researching something brand new to me like if

00:47:57.809 --> 00:48:01.369
i want to write a paper about the war of 1812

00:48:01.369 --> 00:48:04.309
okay so you're not using it for research for

00:48:04.309 --> 00:48:07.510
things that are historical facts or something

00:48:07.510 --> 00:48:10.570
like that like something that like you can objectively

00:48:10.570 --> 00:48:13.670
go look up on your own right like with the pregnancy

00:48:13.670 --> 00:48:16.309
thing there's more subjectivity when it comes

00:48:16.309 --> 00:48:18.090
because it's a lot of people's opinions that

00:48:18.090 --> 00:48:19.909
show up on google and you can you can pay to

00:48:19.909 --> 00:48:22.570
have things boosted on google yeah and chat gpt

00:48:22.570 --> 00:48:24.530
okay i get what you're saying my main problem

00:48:24.530 --> 00:48:27.070
is like is this normal or not normal i need a

00:48:27.070 --> 00:48:30.070
yes or no right right right whereas if i'm like

00:48:30.070 --> 00:48:33.690
what happened in the war of 1812 i want the source

00:48:33.690 --> 00:48:37.590
material i want what is that called in academics

00:48:37.590 --> 00:48:41.900
i want the primary source like i i want that

00:48:41.900 --> 00:48:47.780
i want i i don't want a machines article of what

00:48:47.780 --> 00:48:50.639
it thinks is important to me based on what i've

00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.860
told it before i don't disagree with that and

00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:54.880
i but i also think you and i are nerds like i

00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:58.460
like the way i went down a rabbit hole with the

00:48:58.460 --> 00:49:02.460
trump and musk thing and i was like i love reading

00:49:02.460 --> 00:49:06.099
an associated press article yeah i love it so

00:49:06.099 --> 00:49:08.800
much but it's like I think people should think

00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:10.739
that way. And I know that that's an opinion,

00:49:10.900 --> 00:49:13.940
but it's like, do you want a machine that is

00:49:13.940 --> 00:49:16.139
going to take into context everything you've

00:49:16.139 --> 00:49:18.940
ever told it before and just kind of tell you

00:49:18.940 --> 00:49:22.000
what it thinks you would like to hear? Or would

00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.500
you like to know everything there is to know

00:49:24.500 --> 00:49:26.980
about this topic? And that's kind of what you're

00:49:26.980 --> 00:49:30.760
asking. So like if I'm asking, whatever, I'm

00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:32.920
10 weeks pregnant and I'm cramping. Is that normal?

00:49:33.219 --> 00:49:35.900
I just want a yes or no. I don't want to hear

00:49:35.900 --> 00:49:39.500
50 different. mom saying well this level is normal

00:49:39.500 --> 00:49:41.820
and this level is not and then someone else says

00:49:41.820 --> 00:49:43.059
a different thing and then someone else says

00:49:43.059 --> 00:49:45.179
a different thing I just want a straight up answer

00:49:45.179 --> 00:49:49.019
but if I want to know what happened between Donald

00:49:49.019 --> 00:49:52.360
Trump and Elon Musk I don't want the chat GPT

00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.480
synopsis I want to see it so I think it's just

00:49:56.480 --> 00:50:00.579
I'm afraid of people losing that distinction

00:50:00.579 --> 00:50:04.440
though that's fair you know Because now people

00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.800
are in college and writing academic papers based

00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.820
on what ChatGPT is telling them. Or just having

00:50:10.820 --> 00:50:13.659
ChatGPT write it for them. Yeah, which is crazy.

00:50:13.820 --> 00:50:16.139
And that's also sad because I have seen a few

00:50:16.139 --> 00:50:21.420
people online genuinely frustrated because their

00:50:21.420 --> 00:50:23.679
papers aren't even getting graded and they didn't

00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.300
use AI, but it got flagged for AI for whatever

00:50:27.300 --> 00:50:29.900
reason. Every single one. I don't understand.

00:50:31.929 --> 00:50:34.949
how you avoid that so and i think this has to

00:50:34.949 --> 00:50:36.789
just happen like this has to be a thing that

00:50:36.789 --> 00:50:39.610
is accepted where professors just have to know

00:50:39.610 --> 00:50:41.210
a certain number of papers are going to be written

00:50:41.210 --> 00:50:44.369
with ai and i think that i i had because i mean

00:50:44.369 --> 00:50:46.710
i can't confirm this but like i have to assume

00:50:46.710 --> 00:50:48.949
anyone that submits a paper there's just an automatic

00:50:48.949 --> 00:50:52.789
flag for ai and like i mean the professor just

00:50:52.789 --> 00:50:54.269
has to read it and see if it sounds like a normal

00:50:54.269 --> 00:50:56.489
person but they can go in and like see if because

00:50:56.489 --> 00:51:00.679
they look for like the long dash that I used

00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:03.579
to use a long dash all the time. Oh, I think

00:51:03.579 --> 00:51:05.860
the long dash is so ugly. I hate it so much.

00:51:06.019 --> 00:51:10.139
I loved it for like a long. Anyway, I won't get

00:51:10.139 --> 00:51:12.360
into why I use a long dash. That's so boring.

00:51:12.539 --> 00:51:15.980
But like I've seen on Twitter now, like don't

00:51:15.980 --> 00:51:18.820
use that anymore. People assume it's AI. And

00:51:18.820 --> 00:51:23.500
it's like. So now AI has already sort of, quote

00:51:23.500 --> 00:51:27.480
unquote, taken over in the sense that. People

00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.500
have to change the way they are writing to make

00:51:30.500 --> 00:51:34.519
sure people know it's not AI. It's like, and

00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.000
that's sad for professors, too. How do you win

00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.900
as a professor? You don't want to pass someone

00:51:39.900 --> 00:51:42.940
who's using chat GPT and hasn't learned a damn

00:51:42.940 --> 00:51:45.460
thing. But you also don't want to fail someone

00:51:45.460 --> 00:51:48.059
who is genuinely trying just because you can't

00:51:48.059 --> 00:51:50.639
tell if it was AI or not. Well, I guess, like,

00:51:50.659 --> 00:51:52.260
what do you do to sit him down and be like, prove

00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:55.019
it? Like, what do you do? You can't prove it.

00:51:55.099 --> 00:51:57.099
Like, that's the point I was trying to make a

00:51:57.099 --> 00:51:58.940
minute ago. Like, you're not going to hand over

00:51:58.940 --> 00:52:01.260
your chat GPT and say, here, here's everything

00:52:01.260 --> 00:52:04.780
I've looked up ever. Like, that's so crazy. That's

00:52:04.780 --> 00:52:07.940
such an invasion of privacy at that point. It's

00:52:07.940 --> 00:52:11.710
like, what do you do? Speaking of everything

00:52:11.710 --> 00:52:13.409
you've ever looked up, have I told you about

00:52:13.409 --> 00:52:15.329
the time I was in a depressive episode and I

00:52:15.329 --> 00:52:18.389
asked ChatGPT if it had a name? Yeah, I do remember

00:52:18.389 --> 00:52:21.590
that. And it said something about, like, what

00:52:21.590 --> 00:52:23.389
do you want my name to be? Yeah, it was like,

00:52:23.730 --> 00:52:25.090
well, what would you name me? And I was like,

00:52:25.150 --> 00:52:27.909
that's not what I wanted, but thanks. And then

00:52:27.909 --> 00:52:31.349
I just went to bed. Do you remember AskChaCha?

00:52:31.849 --> 00:52:34.809
I do. I very vividly remember ChaCha, and I...

00:52:34.809 --> 00:52:38.880
242 -242. I would prefer cha -cha. Well, because

00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.400
it was a person looking it up. Yeah. When you

00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.400
texted it, yeah. Employ the cha -chas again.

00:52:45.539 --> 00:52:49.019
Do you want to complain? Yes. What do you want

00:52:49.019 --> 00:52:52.320
to complain about? So, at the top of my mind

00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:55.820
is when you own a home, you have to take care

00:52:55.820 --> 00:53:00.219
of the lawn. Oh, my God. Is it a pain in the

00:53:00.219 --> 00:53:04.519
ass? Especially if you have an HOA. I would,

00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:08.940
in a heartbeat, Just let myself have like a clover

00:53:08.940 --> 00:53:12.360
lawn and not care about the dandelions and not

00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:14.840
care about any of that and just let it be its

00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:19.000
natural state. But my goddamn motherfucking HOA

00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:22.500
will not allow that to happen. They'll send you

00:53:22.500 --> 00:53:24.460
a little letter and that's like, get rid of your

00:53:24.460 --> 00:53:30.239
weeds. uh grass is not natural grass did you

00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:34.019
know grass is like a relatively new thing it's

00:53:34.019 --> 00:53:37.039
an invasive species in some cases too yeah it

00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.000
is not good for the ground it's not good for

00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.860
the environment it's not good for anything i've

00:53:42.860 --> 00:53:49.199
seen many uh scientists say that our modern lawns

00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:52.880
are like killing the planet actively but here

00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:57.280
i am bowing down to my hoa we we're paying some

00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.539
guy like a thousand dollars to come aerate the

00:53:59.539 --> 00:54:02.539
lawn and overseed it and make sure the grass

00:54:02.539 --> 00:54:05.820
grows again who is that for is it just so like

00:54:06.269 --> 00:54:09.210
Karen drives by and it looks nice. Yes. That's

00:54:09.210 --> 00:54:11.929
because there is something to be said for a nice

00:54:11.929 --> 00:54:14.150
lawn. But like there comes a point where it's

00:54:14.150 --> 00:54:17.030
like, Jesus Christ, when is it good enough? I

00:54:17.030 --> 00:54:20.309
know. Listen, I understand as well as the next

00:54:20.309 --> 00:54:24.389
girl that like a nice plush, soft looking grass

00:54:24.389 --> 00:54:29.130
that's like uniform over the whole lawn looks

00:54:29.130 --> 00:54:31.789
amazing. It looks great. I would love to run

00:54:31.789 --> 00:54:36.030
around in it. Looks perfect. Not natural. So

00:54:36.030 --> 00:54:39.550
bad for the environment. And, like, good for

00:54:39.550 --> 00:54:42.389
you for maintaining it and having the discipline

00:54:42.389 --> 00:54:48.090
to do that. I applaud you. I do. I just don't

00:54:48.090 --> 00:54:50.889
agree with it. I would rather have, have you

00:54:50.889 --> 00:54:54.389
seen, like, a moss lawn and a clover lawn and

00:54:54.389 --> 00:54:56.550
stuff like that? They're so pretty. Like, they

00:54:56.550 --> 00:55:01.840
look, and they, like, um. foster more creatures

00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:05.420
like little bugs and things and it's i think

00:55:05.420 --> 00:55:07.039
it's really cool when people do like the rock

00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:11.239
lawns yeah i wanted to look like fairies would

00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:13.239
live in my lawn that's what i wanted to look

00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:18.360
like but i'm not allowed well i'm sad about it

00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:21.199
i really am but that's my complaint what would

00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:23.480
you like to complain about the plot of the movie

00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:28.179
burlesque from 2010 Because I've seen a resurgence

00:55:28.179 --> 00:55:31.960
of Cher on TikTok screaming, Wagon Wheel Watusi!

00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:39.900
And I think back to that movie and how I remember

00:55:39.900 --> 00:55:42.599
going to see it in theaters and I remember thinking,

00:55:42.980 --> 00:55:49.079
God, this is cinema. And I was like, you've got

00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.579
a love story here. You've got a conflict. You've

00:55:51.579 --> 00:55:53.440
got something real going on. And then I think

00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:59.420
back to it. The whole plot of the movie was every,

00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:02.599
it was the same plot that has been in existence

00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:05.260
from the beginning of time where a small town

00:56:05.260 --> 00:56:08.139
girl comes into the big city. It's coyote ugly.

00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:12.800
It is coyote ugly. But it's. It's like, okay,

00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.920
the girl's gonna, she's gonna prove something.

00:56:16.099 --> 00:56:18.260
She's just a cocktail waitress, but she's gonna

00:56:18.260 --> 00:56:20.780
let you know that she can sing a song. And so

00:56:20.780 --> 00:56:23.739
she sings, and she does Wagon Wheel Watusi. And

00:56:23.739 --> 00:56:25.780
then Cher really sees something in her, and that

00:56:25.780 --> 00:56:29.280
changes Cher's mind, and that's great. But the

00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.360
whole plot of the movie is that the condos across

00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:36.559
the street from the burlesque club wanted the

00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:42.420
air rights above. Yeah. And I... For the life

00:56:42.420 --> 00:56:44.239
of me, I'm like, you couldn't have come up with

00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:47.420
something better? I know. Warner Brothers, what

00:56:47.420 --> 00:56:50.699
are we doing? Come on. And I also hate that in

00:56:50.699 --> 00:56:53.760
all of these movies, I think it's really the

00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.860
big thing that burlesque and coyote ugly have

00:56:56.860 --> 00:57:00.860
in common for me, is like, this small town poor

00:57:00.860 --> 00:57:05.579
girl is valuable because she's skinny and hot.

00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:09.710
Got it. that that that that is the part that

00:57:09.710 --> 00:57:14.530
really gets me and i mean as even a teenager

00:57:14.530 --> 00:57:18.329
but especially as a little girl you don't see

00:57:18.329 --> 00:57:21.510
it like that right it's just like indoctrinated

00:57:21.510 --> 00:57:24.750
in you in such a way that like you have to wait

00:57:24.750 --> 00:57:26.789
for your frontal lobe to develop before you're

00:57:26.789 --> 00:57:30.730
like wait she was smart and no one cared about

00:57:30.730 --> 00:57:35.340
that She wasn't just some dumpy girl. She could

00:57:35.340 --> 00:57:39.699
sing. Right? Like, she... Oh, my God. Like, yeah,

00:57:39.860 --> 00:57:42.800
this small -town girl is super poor until someone

00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:47.480
realizes that she's hot. Like, what the what?

00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:49.579
Like, I don't get it. And then I'm just like,

00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:53.039
why didn't you just go audition from the beginning?

00:57:53.340 --> 00:57:55.699
Like, I don't understand. Why did... And then

00:57:55.699 --> 00:58:02.320
also, why was the main... The main enemy of Christina

00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.300
Aguilera in the movie, why was she only mean

00:58:05.300 --> 00:58:07.159
to Christina Aguilera? Why wasn't she mean to

00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:08.739
the rest of the girls? Or maybe she wasn't. I

00:58:08.739 --> 00:58:11.079
just don't remember. For the life of me, I don't

00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:14.420
get it. I don't know. It is very confusing to

00:58:14.420 --> 00:58:17.840
watch later in life. Some very iconic performances.

00:58:18.099 --> 00:58:22.440
I will give it that. That burlesque song is probably...

00:58:23.340 --> 00:58:27.039
one of my top plays on apple music but it's stunning

00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.780
it is but like the plot of the movie does leave

00:58:30.780 --> 00:58:34.800
a lot to be desired oh yeah and it's like i don't

00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:37.199
know i get that it was the early 2000s too and

00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:38.619
it was just a different time but like it was

00:58:38.619 --> 00:58:43.039
a very different time but i think the biggest

00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:47.679
problem that i have is that someone sat down

00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:51.219
and wrote on a piece of paper for Cher to say

00:58:51.219 --> 00:58:55.059
out loud, Wagon Wheel Watusi! That was the number

00:58:55.059 --> 00:58:58.619
that Cher expected you to perform. Yeah. Wagon

00:58:58.619 --> 00:59:03.159
Wheel Watusi. Oh, Christ. I think that brings

00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:05.579
us to the end of our time together, friends.

00:59:06.179 --> 00:59:08.199
I finally got around to starting to watch the

00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:13.539
second season of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives,

00:59:13.579 --> 00:59:16.829
so we'll try... starting a recap of that next

00:59:16.829 --> 00:59:19.949
week i think that'll be fun i cannot wait to

00:59:19.949 --> 00:59:25.010
gab about that with you just oh my god the last

00:59:25.010 --> 00:59:31.739
15 minutes of the last episode That's cinema,

00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:35.840
baby. And season three is confirmed. Thank God.

00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:40.739
I'm so excited. Anyway, yeah, you'll have to

00:59:40.739 --> 00:59:43.679
tune in for that. Cannot wait to recap that.

00:59:43.780 --> 00:59:46.639
This was a more serious episode this week of

00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:50.079
Bestie Approved, but I hope you enjoyed. We love

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