podcast friends: The Girls Room is bestie approved!

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My thoughts are she's not gay. Yeah, I'm with

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ya. It feels like a big delusion. Welcome to

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the girl's room. I'm Brittany, your host, and

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today I have Bestie approved with me. Travis

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and Emma, I'm going to let them kind of tell

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everyone about themselves. And then we're just

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going to have some pop culture tea that's going

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to go down that we're going to talk about. They

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sent me some topics that I did not know about

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at all. So I learned about them. And I love that

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because I am a reality girly, like TV girly.

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It was great to learn about the other pop culture

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stuff. So introduce yourselves and tell everybody

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about y 'all's podcast. Cool. My name's Travis.

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I've known Emma now for, God, like we're going

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on like five years of like being very good friends.

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We worked in finance together and we both hated

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it. At one point, we shared an office together.

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We were having a time. And I said one day, oh,

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my God, do you know what we should do? We should

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start a podcast. And Emma has always been so

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amazing about, like, being super supportive and,

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like, just kind of, like, letting things happen.

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And this is just kind of what it's turned into.

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It's been really cool. I think we just set our

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15th episode that just went live today. And we're

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having a great time. But yeah, and I'll let Emma

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introduce herself. Yeah. So since we left finance,

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we have more time now to do passion projects

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and things like that. And so we've been having

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fun just yapping about whatever we want to yap

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about, really. I'm looking up to see now what

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episode that is. It is our 15th episode. Amazing.

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Yay, that is so exciting. Yeah, we're both from

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Indiana. We're still here. And yeah, that's basically

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it for Bestie Approved. I love that. So we got

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to chatting on. uh through rss which was cool

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i just had a conversation um with i can't think

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of his name the guy who runs rss greg wasser

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yes i just had a conversation with him on a different

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podcast um and that was really cool but we got

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we got connected through there and i'm just so

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excited that we did because i think our podcasts

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are kind of similar um and so we had a couple

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topics that we wanted to go over but I think

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I really would love to start with the Taylor

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Swift situation since it is the one that's the

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nearest and dearest to my heart cool I I I'm

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not gonna say that I'm like a giant Swifty like

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I I know some of the lore I definitely don't

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I wouldn't be like I know every single one of

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the songs and I know all the words to every single

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one of her songs. But I know like most of them.

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Sure. And I know the lore. So when you sent the

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gay lore stuff, I knew about that already. I've

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gone down the rabbit hole of the gay lores. Okay.

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What are your thoughts about it then? So, okay.

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Well, my thoughts are she's not gay. yeah I'm

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with ya it feels like a big delusion yeah yeah

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I mean I think like if anything she could be

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bi like there's a couple different songs where

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um you could you could put it as like a girl

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like she's talking about a girl um I'm bi so

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I would be fine with her being bi like that would

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be a really cool thought to have okay um but

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do I think that she's gay no I don't think she's

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gay at all I mean her songs are just so boy heavy

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yeah well that so I didn't know that people actually

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believed she was gay and that the I'm sure people

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watching this, I'm not huge into Taylor Swift.

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I know I like two of her songs, but I'm just

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not a huge Swifty. I'm sorry, don't come after

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me. But it was showing up on my TikTok where

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people were fully crashing out over her getting

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engaged to Travis Kelsey. And I was like, I'm

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so happy for them. I love them. They're so cool

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together. They're just a very cool couple. i

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saw this girl like fully trying to like rationalize

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no taylor is gay taylor is a lesbian and i know

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this and i know this is the truth and i'm just

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like oh yeah they go leaps and bounds they're

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like this is all for pr this is this this is

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that and if you read into this and her ring and

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then like obviously she's gay and it's like A

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thing with her, though, is, like, they're always

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looking at, like, the imagery and, like, they're

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behind the scenes and there's always a clue.

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And I'm just like, is it really? I don't know.

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I don't know. Well, I will say that, yes, it

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is really always a clue. Yeah, she does a lot

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of the hidden messages. No, she does. And she's,

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like, come out and said, like, how far back can

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I go, basically? Like, can I go so far back as,

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like... to start planning things like two, three

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years ahead. So I definitely do think that she

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has done all of the Easter eggs. Like she's so

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into that sort of thing. So yes, but I also don't

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think that she's gay and I understand the wanting

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of it. I really do. And she is a, she's a supporter

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of girls and the arts. You know what I mean?

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I get that. Like she, she loves the girlies and

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she loves the gays and you can be an ally without

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also being gay. You can love women without being

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gay for sure. And I don't know, like you might

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know better than I do. Brittany, has she ever

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done like the Easter egg thing for her personal

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life at all? Like. It just seems so out of pocket

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to do that for her sexuality. Like that just

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seems so insane. I know she's done it for like

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album releases and stuff, but like personally.

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So this is kind of where I am not like the huge

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Swifty. I don't I honestly like don't know the

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Easter eggs like I stumble upon like TikToks

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and Instagram reels where I'm like oh that makes

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sense but I'm definitely not the one who is searching

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for them right you're not decoding like I'm not

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that I'm not in that deep and I don't know how

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they have time to do But, like, she's also been

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with Travis Kelsey now for, we're going on a

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year. Like, it's a year or two. Yeah. I think

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it's two. Yeah. It's, like, it's been a while.

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A while. And then she was with Joe for, like,

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seven years. Yeah. And then, you know, like,

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no. You can't make me believe. Yeah. She's with

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him. Like, it's over. Yeah. much money she in

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attention she would get if she dated a woman

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and like made an album about it and like that

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whole thing you know what i mean yeah like i

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mean her last album was about maddie healy like

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basically like their situation shit right like

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he's the singer for the 1975 okay yeah yeah um

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he is a mess um that people adore so don't come

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at me maddie who we found um if you did have

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to ship her with a woman who would it be oh my

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god what a great question i i okay so anyone

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i'm gonna ship is gonna be either zendaya because

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i just obsessed with her and um zoe kravitz because

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i love both of them and i'm obsessed with them

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both so i'm gonna ship everyone with them always

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okay I think Taylor and Zoe Kravitz would be

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hot right I think yeah that'd be great I think

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Taylor and Zendaya would actually be super hot

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too I'd be really into that right I feel like

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they have like very similar body types they're

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like long and skinny yeah anyway yeah anyway

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yeah okay so jury's out but she's definitely

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not gay uh jury's not out the jury is decided

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here's the god's honest truth even if she is

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let her be gay she's with or she's with one of

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the hottest guys on god's green earth i mean

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if that's not gonna turn her straight i don't

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know what will lord have mercy right yeah i don't

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he's not my type but i i get i i love them together

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and there are so many celebrities who like gay

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fish and she has not done that at all so i just

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think that's why it's so out of pocket yeah like

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a lot of the rumors sometimes are like it's an

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actor who's played a gay character but it's kind

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of like ambiguous if they're actually gay and

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i just think it's so funny because she's never

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done anything like that like i don't know a lot

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of like wanting it to be true is like i think

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where this is coming from Yeah, I agree. I agree.

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So speaking of gay, we have a lot of gay topics

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over here. We do, yeah. And I love that. Okay,

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so one of the other things that I saw was the

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crumble CEO getting bullied out of the closet.

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Yeah. I want you guys' thoughts on this. We talked

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about it on Bestie Approved a little bit. Yeah.

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Okay. We did. And like, here's the thing. So

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I think most of the discourse about it came out

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of the fact that he's a registered Republican.

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He's in Utah. So I assume there's some connection

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to the LDS or the Mormon church there. I think

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this is where a lot of like the tension around

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it came from. Right. But I mean, he was walking

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around his very well decorated house and he is.

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very well kept up and he's very cute. I mean,

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like you look at him and you're just like, oh,

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this is what a good looking gay guy looks like.

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It's like whatever. And then people were like,

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oh, he says he's straight. And then I guess this

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hasn't been confirmed to my knowledge, but I

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guess like there someone was saying that there

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were Instagram DM screenshots of him like sliding

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into guys DMs. And then I think. It became bigger

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than he expected it to, because, I mean, the

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Crumble CEO is not, like, a huge public figure,

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but, like, people were making a huge deal out

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of it. And then he finally came out. Yeah, I

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mean, I definitely don't think it's okay to push

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anyone out of the closet. But I don't love that

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he's, like, seems a little MAGA -coded. Yeah.

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Not at all. So, yeah. That's the point that we

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were making on Bestie Approved is that, like,

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the guy who initially made the video was just,

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like, clocking him a little bit. It was just

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like, that's not a straight man. But all the

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people who, like, posted DM screenshots and stuff

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like that, like, now you're outing someone and

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that is not cute. Yeah. There are so many other

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ways you could have come for him. But, like,

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at the same time, he's the one sliding into guys'

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DMs, allegedly. Right. And that's the God's honest

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truth. If you're not willing to be yourself authentically,

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like, can you expect other people to, like, hold

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up their end of the bargain with? I don't know.

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I don't know. Yeah. I have to agree a little

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bit just because it's, like. You're doing something

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in a public space and then expecting people to

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like keep your secret. Right. And it's like.

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Why do I need to keep your secret if you're sliding

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into my DMs? Exactly. Especially when you're

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associating with the ops, basically, being a

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Republican. Well, that's enough. Emma, you know

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this. I dated a guy at one point who was a gay

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for Trump, and I didn't realize it until we were

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three or four dates in, and that ended very quickly.

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But I was like, I don't understand this connection

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at all. It just makes zero sense to me. yeah

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same it I I can't understand I can't get it I

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can't um I don't want to even attempt to get

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it I think they should probably see the light

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it's like it's like religion it's not for us

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to understand right that's exactly right um and

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then so I saw something recently more gays um

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about lil nas x who i love okay i love lil nas

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x but um i so i saw like about him having the

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stroke and like not being able to use like half

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of his face but i guess that's kind of yeah i

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don't okay this is like before the psychotic

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break okay yes he had yeah so this is a while

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ago so i saw that And then you guys sent me,

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you know, that as a topic or, like, him as a

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topic. And I'm like, okay, well, that's what

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I know. And my coworker was like, no, you haven't

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heard about the breakdown? No, I haven't heard

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about the breakdown. So now I know about the

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breakdown. And I'm like, oh, no. Like, I love

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him. I'm so sad for him. But also, wow. So. yeah

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you've seen this right because I threw that one

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on the list have you seen what happened oh yeah

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I saw all the videos I saw everything oh my god

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I saw it kind of like in real time too you know

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who it reminds me of who I also like my heart

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bled for is Amanda Bynes yes yes yes The thing

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that I have a hard time with is so this was happening

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in West Hollywood. He was walking around the

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street and his underwear and a pair of cowboy

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boots. And he was he was having an episode. There

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were a thousand percent there was drugs involved,

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too. Like, you can't tell me otherwise. Like,

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I just wholeheartedly believe that. And that

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sucks because, like, if it was anything, I would.

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It looks like crystal meth to me, like just.

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what was happening and um i could be wrong and

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i hope i'm wrong about that but this is a very

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dark road that a lot of gay guys do end up going

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down because it's like i mean tina is huge in

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party culture in the gay community and that sucks

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because like i it's like little mouse x is like

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he represented this like voice of a generation

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that was like i'm going to speak out against

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like you know being repressed and like doing

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this thing and like he's falling into kind of

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a dark pattern that I don't love for him. And

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I hope that he gets help and I hope that he figures

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it out. I do know that he appeared in front of

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a judge and they had, there were like five or

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six charges against him. I think I could be wrong

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in the number, but there were several charges

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against him. And I would imagine what's going

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to end up happening is he will probably go to

00:17:08.059 --> 00:17:12.559
rehab and, and probably do some community service.

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I can't imagine he's going to serve any time

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for it, but I, I mean, the the episode led to

00:17:18.309 --> 00:17:23.069
him actually hitting a cop so yeah i am just

00:17:23.069 --> 00:17:25.390
like god it went and it could have gone so much

00:17:25.390 --> 00:17:27.589
worse because i mean he's a man of color like

00:17:27.589 --> 00:17:31.450
christ like you i can't even imagine right he

00:17:31.450 --> 00:17:33.730
could have messed with the wrong guy i was looking

00:17:33.730 --> 00:17:35.410
it up while you were talking because i was pretty

00:17:35.410 --> 00:17:37.849
sure i saw it and it's complex that confirmed

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um They did a breath test and blood test, and

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he was not under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.960
Oh, shit. Okay. Wow. He had a full psychotic

00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:56.940
break. Fuck. Oh, no. It's almost like it would

00:17:56.940 --> 00:17:59.920
have been easier to fix if it were drugs and

00:17:59.920 --> 00:18:03.599
alcohol. Right. Yeah. Because there's kind of

00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:08.849
like an excuse of like, this is the reason. And

00:18:08.849 --> 00:18:10.789
it's so much harder to fix something that's,

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like, just your brain. God, that's awful. Now

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I feel terrible. Like, oh, that sucks for him.

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Yeah, because he's kind of, like, fallen off

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the last, like, year, I feel like. Like, he was

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so big in such a short period of time. I feel

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like he, like, rose to fame. And then he had

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those albums back to back, which I love both

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of them. They're so good. I think the second

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one was like a little bit less received than

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the first. So I'm just wondering like what, gosh,

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has it been like a downward spiral since then?

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And I hate that for him because like you said,

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he was representing something that really hasn't

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been seen before. And I loved that. like as a

00:19:01.059 --> 00:19:03.799
like a gay man who's like so openly and like

00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:07.720
proudly just like showing his you know gayness

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like showing all of the parts of of himself and

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doing it unapologetically and i just absolutely

00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:16.759
loved him for it like i even showed my grandma

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and i'm like look at this guy i love him and

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she's like look at him go you know yeah oh god

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i don't know it's now that Now that we're making

00:19:27.420 --> 00:19:29.519
the connection, it's and it's funny that I don't

00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:31.599
know. Yeah, Emma wasn't on when you were telling

00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:34.619
me like about what the girls room was like based

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on. But I mean, like it's yeah, like it does

00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:42.140
remind me so much of of Amanda Vines and like

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just how like her fall from grace like that sucks

00:19:44.420 --> 00:19:49.390
so bad. Yeah. I just feel really bad for him.

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I did wonder if it was, like, the stress of needing

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to perform the last couple years has really gotten

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to him or something like that. Yeah. Because

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I can't imagine, like, having millions of eyes

00:20:04.730 --> 00:20:07.369
on you and then all of a sudden, like, no one's

00:20:07.369 --> 00:20:10.730
talking about you anymore. Right. Oh, yeah. I

00:20:10.730 --> 00:20:14.309
can't imagine. So, Emma, do you remember the

00:20:14.309 --> 00:20:18.490
Amanda show? yeah I loved the Amanda show I loved

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it the title of the girls room is based on like

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when they were all like that's what I thought

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it was but I didn't want to like just assume

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that but now I love that yeah so my yeah so my

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logo is an egg as well because you know how like

00:20:35.170 --> 00:20:40.210
the one girl is like I like oh yeah like my my

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whole intro is like an egg cracking Yeah, I love

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that. I don't know how I never put that together.

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I mean, the Amanda show has been off the air

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forever. It was only on for like two seasons.

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It's very millennial of me, but. It's perfect.

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I love it. Now that I see the connection, I love

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it so much more. I thought it was like the safe

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space of a girl's bathroom, which I also love.

00:21:08.019 --> 00:21:10.299
That's what I thought it was. That's so funny.

00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:15.700
what it is it's literally the girl's room yeah

00:21:15.700 --> 00:21:21.339
the girl's room exactly okay so but to back up

00:21:21.339 --> 00:21:24.779
a little bit of the whole Amanda Bynes thing

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and Lil Nas X I was just thinking like when you

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were talking about his like climb and then kind

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of like now he's like kind of falling off about

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like how that's kind of i'm kind of seeing that

00:21:38.390 --> 00:21:41.589
with charlie xcx as well and i've seen a lot

00:21:41.589 --> 00:21:44.369
of people say because she like put something

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out that was like it's still brought summer and

00:21:47.509 --> 00:21:50.650
people are not into that it's like you're like

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still chasing the dragon almost yeah and i hate

00:21:53.730 --> 00:21:56.690
that for her because like she finally got she

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finally got like what she's been after you know

00:22:00.009 --> 00:22:02.430
like that big break and i mean she's been famous

00:22:02.430 --> 00:22:07.299
for a while but not like you know, alien. She

00:22:07.299 --> 00:22:11.440
wasn't, she wasn't right. Right. Exactly. People

00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.500
knew who she was. Yeah. Some, some people, you

00:22:15.500 --> 00:22:19.079
know, not everyone. I've loved her since we played

00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:22.039
her at Hollister in 2014. I've loved her the

00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:25.539
whole time. I feel like she had real writer dives,

00:22:25.579 --> 00:22:29.420
but not a lot of like passive fans. Yeah. It

00:22:29.420 --> 00:22:34.160
was such an event. Like, yeah. And I loved it.

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Yeah. And I was worried about her feeling like

00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:41.720
she needed to do that again, sort of like Lil

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Nas X and like what we're saying, like the stress

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of it. And that's what I was saying. I was so

00:22:49.309 --> 00:22:52.549
happy to see her get married and, like, have

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a next chapter and something that she can, like,

00:22:55.630 --> 00:22:58.329
focus on. Because I'm sure she'll still make

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music and whatever, but it would be so incredibly

00:23:01.109 --> 00:23:05.009
difficult to replicate the chokehold she had

00:23:05.009 --> 00:23:09.589
on people this summer. Yeah. You know? I don't

00:23:09.589 --> 00:23:11.890
know. We'll see what comes from her. Well, and

00:23:11.890 --> 00:23:14.130
I think the really scary thing is, is, like,

00:23:14.819 --> 00:23:17.799
She reminds me so much of Amy Winehouse. There

00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:20.779
are a lot of parallels. There are the massive

00:23:20.779 --> 00:23:25.579
gay following. You're cool and you like coke,

00:23:25.700 --> 00:23:31.099
whatever. I do not want her to go down that same

00:23:31.099 --> 00:23:33.859
path because Amy Winehouse was very public about,

00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:37.200
I'm just not interested in that. But she was

00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:40.539
also, when she did start to show interest towards

00:23:40.539 --> 00:23:43.900
the end there. Like I, it was either her manager

00:23:43.900 --> 00:23:46.279
or someone like kept her out of like recovery

00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:48.319
because they were like, no, you're, you're going

00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:50.619
to continue making money. And that's how the

00:23:50.619 --> 00:23:52.299
wheels pop. And I don't want that to happen with

00:23:52.299 --> 00:23:55.980
Charlie XCX. Yeah. I think she's a little better

00:23:55.980 --> 00:23:59.660
off possibly just because she's like surrounded

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by people. And she has like her husband now.

00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:12.299
But the 1975 are also like pretty known to be

00:24:12.299 --> 00:24:17.720
drug users as well. So I don't know. I don't

00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:20.680
know how good of an influence. But that's not

00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:23.460
for me to say. I don't know anything about. I'm

00:24:23.460 --> 00:24:25.000
not honestly like don't really know anything

00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:29.779
about the 1975 other than how they relate to

00:24:29.779 --> 00:24:33.920
Taylor Swift. So I know one song by them. And

00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:37.660
then we have a friend that. is like all in obsessed

00:24:37.660 --> 00:24:42.259
with them like skylee loves um and i was like

00:24:42.259 --> 00:24:47.420
yeah we're real people oh yeah no no people do

00:24:47.420 --> 00:24:53.319
i used to like them but maddie healy pre -taylor

00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:56.519
swift had like some allegations against him and

00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:58.420
stuff like that and i'm like well their music

00:24:58.420 --> 00:25:02.059
isn't that good you know what i mean like i I

00:25:02.059 --> 00:25:04.220
don't have trouble separating the art from the

00:25:04.220 --> 00:25:09.920
artist with that. Yeah, I don't know. And I do

00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:13.940
feel like, unfortunately, Amy Winehouse was kind

00:25:13.940 --> 00:25:17.559
of a lesson for people. And I think in 2025,

00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:24.000
you're going to see someone so in such a bad

00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:27.619
way, like you did. I don't think they would put

00:25:27.619 --> 00:25:31.990
that on anymore. fingers crossed yeah that would

00:25:31.990 --> 00:25:35.769
be so hard to see especially like i'm a huge

00:25:35.769 --> 00:25:39.089
amy winehouse fan and there are like shows that

00:25:39.089 --> 00:25:42.269
are very popular that get posted a lot that i

00:25:42.269 --> 00:25:45.230
like can't even watch because it's like why yeah

00:25:45.230 --> 00:25:49.829
no one stand up for her yeah it sucks it's i

00:25:49.829 --> 00:25:51.589
mean like and i think back to you i mean they

00:25:51.589 --> 00:25:53.869
they and this i'm gonna go off on this tangent

00:25:53.869 --> 00:25:57.089
for a second they um love it on rupaul's drag

00:25:57.089 --> 00:26:01.230
race i think it was season four or five what

00:26:01.230 --> 00:26:04.170
uh i don't it doesn't matter what season it was

00:26:04.170 --> 00:26:07.049
but uh one of the women or one of the drag queens

00:26:07.049 --> 00:26:09.549
oh my god one of the contestants jesus christ

00:26:09.549 --> 00:26:14.789
um did amy winehouse as uh the snatch game character

00:26:14.789 --> 00:26:19.950
and it like it actually made me mad because like

00:26:19.950 --> 00:26:23.009
i was a like i was a huge amy winehouse fan and

00:26:23.009 --> 00:26:25.549
i was like this like I mean it was like it was

00:26:25.549 --> 00:26:27.269
the leaning into the drug use and it was like

00:26:27.269 --> 00:26:28.970
she was putting cigarettes out in her hair and

00:26:28.970 --> 00:26:31.430
it was like a whole thing and I was like I don't

00:26:31.430 --> 00:26:35.650
want this to be how people see Amy Winehouse

00:26:35.650 --> 00:26:38.910
like that but they do have you seen the cake

00:26:38.910 --> 00:26:47.150
there's a cake oh yeah yeah one of his fans I

00:26:47.150 --> 00:26:50.269
think it was a Halloween party because they it's

00:26:50.269 --> 00:26:54.079
like he's known for having these extravagant

00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:56.339
halloween parties and like it's the thing to

00:26:56.339 --> 00:27:00.319
talk about and it was literally the year amy

00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:04.200
winehouse passed away it was like in the shape

00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.779
of her corpse like she wasn't even supposed to

00:27:06.779 --> 00:27:11.720
be alive and it was that's how and that's how

00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.319
people viewed her as like a spectacle and that's

00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:19.490
the reason i'll fuck with ryan seacrest It was

00:27:19.490 --> 00:27:22.230
Neil Patrick Harris. I thought it was Ryan Seacrest.

00:27:22.269 --> 00:27:27.269
Oh, I'll fuck with it. I don't like Ryan Seacrest

00:27:27.269 --> 00:27:29.190
for different reasons, though. Is it because

00:27:29.190 --> 00:27:35.849
of the Kardashians? Oh, no. That's like my guilty

00:27:35.849 --> 00:27:44.589
pleasure is the Kardashians. Yeah. I think we're

00:27:44.589 --> 00:27:48.930
done here. No, I've seen so much of the Kardashians.

00:27:48.930 --> 00:27:51.809
It is like a guilty pleasure for me, though,

00:27:51.869 --> 00:27:53.549
because I'm watching this and I'm like, wow,

00:27:53.730 --> 00:27:59.569
I shouldn't. It's almost like they have. No,

00:27:59.650 --> 00:28:02.849
you're fine. It's almost like it's so far out

00:28:02.849 --> 00:28:05.349
of reality how they live that I'm just like,

00:28:05.490 --> 00:28:10.180
how are you? How? How? i just need to know how

00:28:10.180 --> 00:28:15.519
i need to know what is happening it's like escapism

00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.599
yeah it's like fantasy yeah yeah it is exactly

00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:23.799
exactly what it is it's like i can never I mean,

00:28:23.859 --> 00:28:26.759
the thing for me is like, so, and I think it

00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:29.799
was like 2007 -ish, whenever the first season

00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:31.279
of Keeping Up with the Kardashians came out,

00:28:31.299 --> 00:28:33.140
I got super into it because I was like, oh, this

00:28:33.140 --> 00:28:34.640
girl is friends with Paris Hilton. Like, you

00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:35.980
couldn't tell me I wasn't going to be Nicole

00:28:35.980 --> 00:28:37.960
Richie when I grew up. So I was like, I love

00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.759
this. I watched the first season and I was like,

00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.779
oh, it's fun. They're like, they're doing the

00:28:42.779 --> 00:28:45.500
like reality show thing. And then like. If you

00:28:45.500 --> 00:28:48.099
do a little bit of digging about that family

00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:50.779
and about the OJ Simpson trial and about a lot

00:28:50.779 --> 00:28:53.079
of the things that were going on behind the scenes

00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.279
with, at the time, Bruce Jenner. And I just,

00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:00.940
I can't, I can't, I don't like him. Oh my goodness.

00:29:01.019 --> 00:29:04.640
I don't know this lore. It's a lot. It's a lot.

00:29:04.740 --> 00:29:09.539
It's dark too. It's very dark. oh dad obviously

00:29:09.539 --> 00:29:12.259
they don't want to speak ill of the dead and

00:29:12.259 --> 00:29:14.299
why would they speak ill of their dad but he

00:29:14.299 --> 00:29:21.059
is he was not the best guy oh they because they

00:29:21.059 --> 00:29:24.059
love to like put him like as an angel on the

00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:27.559
show like he has literal like angel wings yeah

00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:33.460
the graphics are insane no that's crazy and why

00:29:33.460 --> 00:29:36.140
would they speak ill of their dead dad on tv

00:29:36.140 --> 00:29:40.960
like i'm not gonna expect that of them I know

00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.380
deep down in my heart I shouldn't be supporting

00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:48.039
them, but it is so fun to watch. If you can separate

00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.279
that, I love that. And, like, granted, Kim and

00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:54.059
Khloe and the rest of them have nothing to do

00:29:54.059 --> 00:29:57.000
with Robert Kardashian and what was going on

00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:01.559
there. And they have nothing to do with Bruce

00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:04.559
generally, like, literally abandoning his family

00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:08.809
for... to Mary Chris Jenner, they have nothing

00:30:08.809 --> 00:30:11.890
to do with that. I just, I don't like that they're

00:30:11.890 --> 00:30:15.069
all like one group of people all the time that

00:30:15.069 --> 00:30:19.529
is just in the middle of some kind of chaos all

00:30:19.529 --> 00:30:24.329
the time. Yeah, I think the chaos is manufactured

00:30:24.329 --> 00:30:30.150
a lot of the time. Just for views, which is why

00:30:30.150 --> 00:30:34.420
I'm like, it's not real. Like none of this is

00:30:34.420 --> 00:30:38.839
real and that's what makes it fun. They're like

00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.099
always in a full glam too. Like they're fully

00:30:42.099 --> 00:30:45.480
down. They're in like designer outfits. Like

00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.180
every time you see them, like. Oh, I just rolled

00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:53.779
out of bed. I have these giant eyelashes on,

00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:57.759
but this is how I look. The one thing I always

00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:59.819
noticed is that they were always in the bed.

00:30:59.940 --> 00:31:01.759
Like, they were always in, like, one of the others.

00:31:01.859 --> 00:31:04.079
Like, they were, like, just sitting in a bed.

00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:06.559
And I was like, no one is in full glam and that

00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.799
much makeup sitting in a bed. Like, just, like,

00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.259
hanging out. Like, it's wild to me. Like, that's

00:31:12.259 --> 00:31:13.720
just their life. They're exhausted from getting

00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:18.299
ready. they're not getting themselves ready no

00:31:18.299 --> 00:31:20.259
they're exhausted from sitting in the makeup

00:31:20.259 --> 00:31:24.859
chair it's so hard to sit sitting is exhausting

00:31:24.859 --> 00:31:32.519
okay well this has been a great episode i have

00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:35.359
absolutely loved talking with you guys hopefully

00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:39.099
um we can continue the conversation another time

00:31:39.099 --> 00:31:43.279
but i'd love to Yeah, but for now, we're going

00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.579
to definitely sign off and tell the people where

00:31:46.579 --> 00:31:50.420
they can find you guys. Cool. Emma, do you want

00:31:50.420 --> 00:31:55.500
to go first? Sure. Bessie Approved is on. Pretty

00:31:55.500 --> 00:31:57.779
much every platform where you're streaming your

00:31:57.779 --> 00:32:02.039
podcasts, Spotify, Apple Music, all the big ones.

00:32:02.299 --> 00:32:06.279
We're not on video yet, but we will be soon.

00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:12.500
And yeah, we also encourage you to email us,

00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.460
leave comments, whatever. If you want to shoot

00:32:15.460 --> 00:32:18.079
us an email because you have thoughts about what

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we've been yapping about, it's just Travis or

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Emma at TravisandEmma .com. Well, you guys have

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a great rest of your day and we will talk soon.

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