one of the bedbugs ate my podcast title.

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I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. What's the last song

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you listened to? Um, that's a good question.

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Oh, Ivy by Frank Ocean. Oh, that's a good one.

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I listened to Drinkin' by Joel Corey, MK, and

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Rita Ora. I don't know it, but I know I would

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like it. I know you would too, because it's Rita

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Ora just going, drinkin' all night, drinkin'

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all night. Yeah, that's beautiful. I love it.

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That's exactly what I wanted it to be. We have

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a lot this week. Yeah, well, okay, so this episode,

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we're going to complain, and then we have a lot

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to talk about in the realm of reality television.

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We've got to go through Secret Lives of Mormon

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Wives, Jesus, and talk about the Traitors cast,

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and then I also have to let out some opinions

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about Love Island. I must. I just, it's insanity.

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So do you want to start with complaining or do

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you want to start with your child or do you want

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to start with Cupcake's new song? Let's start

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with Cupcake's new song, shall we? Cupcake. Have

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you heard it yet? No. Is it great? Hang on. I

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don't. I'm going to play a little clip, but I

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don't want to get copyrighted in our first. 10

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episodes. You know what I mean? Emma's going

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to listen to it. We're going to we're going to

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reconvene. It's it's literally called one of

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the bedbugs ate my pussy. Hang on. Let me make

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sure I have this right. Is it about sleeping

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naked? No, no. That's what it gives. Has nothing

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to do with that. It's called one of my bedbugs

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ate my pussy. That's beautiful. And I'll listen

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to it and we'll be right back. So we're back.

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Emma just heard it. That was iconic. She is the

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voice of our generation. The beat is actually

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so good. Yeah, like if you could censor the lyrics,

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which you just could not possibly do to that

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song, I would bump it in the car. But that can't

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be censored. That can't be for public consumption.

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I loved it. I loved it. I think the title makes

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me think about sleeping naked. That's why I can't

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sleep naked, because I feel like bugs and dust

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and lint are going to be all in my coochie. But

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that's not what it was about. No, but I want

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to call out three of my favorite lyrics. Yeah.

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L .A. fires wouldn't happen if a bitch just squirt.

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One, one. Sniffs, sniffs. He gonna miss this

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face like when Trump got shot. Wow. Two. Wow.

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You know, when she wrote that down, she said,

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mm -hmm, mm -hmm, mm -hmm, mm -hmm. She said,

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this is, we're doing art. And then number three,

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itsy bitsy spider crawled in my booty crack.

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Down came the rain when I threw this coochie

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back. And here's the real tea of all of it. There

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is one writer credit on this song. It is Elizabeth

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Harris. Do you want to take a wild guess on what

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Cupcake's real name is? Elizabeth Harris. Elizabeth

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Eden Harris. Oh, Cupcake, you've done it again.

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I knew she wrote that song. You can just tell.

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By herself. You can just tell by the vibes. She

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has a mind. I wish I wish I had a quarter of

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the creativity of the gumption that she does.

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Wow. Cupcake. We love you. She has a mind that

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we could never wish for. And that's that's that's

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that on that. Wow. If you haven't heard one of

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my bed bugs ate my pussy, please tune in wherever

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you stream your music. Please. I'll give you

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my password. How many monthly listeners does

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Cupcake have? I don't. Does that tell you? 2

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.1 million. Shut your whore mouth. Oh, I'm not

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even surprised. That's amazing. Also, Deep Throat

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has 120 ,000. I'm sorry, 120 million streams.

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And I believe Travis to be at least 20 million

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of those. Do you have anything to complain about?

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So much, really. But I'm kind of at a like. I

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have so much to complain about, but all I've

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seen for like. two weeks are people in Gaza,

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people in Iran, and people in LA who are dealing

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with such strife that I feel like the most privileged

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woman in the world. So I'm going to forego my

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complaining in solidarity with immigrants and

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also the whole entirety of the Middle East, except

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for Israel, sorry. That's fair. I have two things

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to complain about if you if you don't have any.

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Please do. OK, one. One is going to make me sound

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like an asshole now that you've taken a moral

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stance. Oh, I just wanted to say something in

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this episode about it. That's fair. Yeah, I don't.

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I still have a loss I've been complaining about

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internally. Don't get me wrong. No, I feel like

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for me, I don't know that I have anything productive

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to add to the conversation. So I feel like I'm

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uncomfortable. unpacking some of those subjects

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because I don't know how to talk about it. Like

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someone who's very, very good at it is like Hassan

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Biker, who. Under like, like fully understands

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like the facets that the implications of everything.

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And not to mention he's in California. So he's

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like, so he gets it. Yeah. He was at the protest.

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Right. But yeah, if you'd like more details about

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what's happening in Iran and Gaza or in LA, highly

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recommend listening to Austin Piker. Did you

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say Austin Piker? Hassan. Hassan. I thought H

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-A -S -S -A -N was Hassan. I don't know. Anyway,

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however you want to say it, listen to that hottie.

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Because there's two white people from Indiana,

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we can only say so many, you know. That and like,

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I fully like, I just feel like I don't have anything

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productive to add to the conversation. I'm just

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going to be very real with you. Like I, my heart

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goes out to literally everyone that is impacted

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by literally all the bullshit going on in the

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world right now because there is so much. my

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goal with this podcast is to bring some lightheartedness

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to everyone's day and especially in the deep

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dark times that we are currently exactly and

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like me talking about it is like it would be

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the most uneducated takes on it well that's what

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i'm saying like if we really wanted to get into

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it i would sound so stupid compared to people

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who have prepared research and pieces and maybe

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that's one of our let's research mamas like that

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is Yeah. Maybe that is something that I that

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I can unpack. It's just not. But that's not what

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we're doing today. No. I was just saying because

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the last week has been like particularly horrible.

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It has been horrific. Especially with the militarization

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of ICE in in California. Yeah. So anyways, what

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are we complaining about? So the thing that's

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going to make me sound like an asshole. I went

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to Swig. I went to the drive through of Swig

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on Washington Street. I get in the drive -thru.

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I am the second car in line, right? The car in

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front of me is a minivan with nine kids in it.

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And I want everyone to enjoy Swig. Swig, please

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sponsor the podcast. This is not an attack on

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you. We love Swig. We love Swig. I'm drinking

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a Swig right now. That being said, there is a

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minivan in front of me with a mom and, like,

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nine kids. And the thing that is really triggering

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to me about every Swig except for the one in

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Greenwood is that you cannot go in and just pick

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up your order. You cannot just pop your head

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in and be like, oh, it's on the counter waiting

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for me, whatever. You must wait in the drive

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-thru. They will not pull a car forward like

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you're at an Arby's. They will not allow it.

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And so I waited in this drive through and I am

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not exaggerating for 20 full minutes. Mind you,

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all they sell is little snacks and sodas like

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there had to be so many of them. But that's the

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thing they kept. They just kept handing. Soda

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is out, like out and out and out. And I was like,

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that's, I love that. Like there, but it's like,

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it was a million little ones. So like what, what

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it tells me is like the kids couldn't make up

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their minds. So it was, let's just, let's have

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a, let's have a smorgasbord. Let's have a fun

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time. And like, I see what the mom was trying

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to do. You should have ordered ahead. You should

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have said, I have a mobile order for Christine.

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I assume. I don't know. Yeah. And that's where

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we're at. I like, I get it. I want those kids

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to have a good time and have some yummy drinks.

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I do. But, like, now you're making the whole

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community pay for it. Yes. During Pride Month.

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We went to a water park last week. Oh, my God.

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Sorry. This is so off topic. We went to a water

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park last week. And it was a Thursday. We got

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there at 1 .30 p .m. Filled to the brim to the

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point where I was afraid we were going to have

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to wait outside because they were going to be

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at capacity. Packed, packed, packed, packed,

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packed. It was insane. We saw Jack's kindergarten

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teacher there. Like, insane. Insane. And remind

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me to comment on that when we talk about Jack

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again in a second. Okay. Perfect. So the second

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thing I have to complain about is... A movement

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that's taking hold on TikTok that I want to start

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off by saying I don't I don't want to attack

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any one specific person, anyone, any specific

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group of people. But there is this there is a

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group of people on TikTok called the 4 a .m.

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Club. This is rooted in a phenomenon that occurred

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on November. 6th of 2024 so the night after or

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like the the the morning hours after election

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night right so this whole phenomenon stems from

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a woman waking up at four o 'clock in the morning

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and we all just knew in that moment that donald

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trump won the election and Millions of people

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on TikTok were commenting saying I also woke

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up. I've heard about this, not on TikTok, like

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on Twitter of everyone saying they woke up that

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night. I I also woke up that night. I very vividly

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remember waking up and I told you about this.

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I woke up and I said, oh, God. And I think. Is

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it not an anxiety thing? I think it is. I'm just

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guessing here. But anyway. So. The the creator

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founder of the 4 a .m. club is a psychic. And

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she's been speaking to, I guess, ghosts. I don't

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I don't know. I don't know. I'm not I'm not attacking.

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I don't understand spirituality. This is something

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I need to be very clear about. she's speaking

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to who or whatever she's speaking to. And they're

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telling her about what's really going on in the

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world. Like in, in the beginning, what it was

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was Kamala Harris really won. The election is

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what the, what we were being sold. Oh, this was

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that whole thing where they were like, I'm not

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going to believe it. I know that she won. Okay.

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Yeah. Yes, it's that. And it is stemmed into

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a TikTok that I sent Emma earlier with with the

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text Jesus Christ in all caps, where it's a woman

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who is a member of the 4 a .m. club. And I won't

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take this away from anyone. If you want to. Believe

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whatever you want to believe. I won't take that

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away from you. But what what scares me about

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the 4 a .m. club is that it's giving people false

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hope. And it's exactly what I believe MAGA was

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doing in 2020. It is identical to what they were

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doing. And. And so this tick tock goes on to

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talk about how we're in an alternate timeline.

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We. Isn't that kind of the whole point of. alternate

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timelines in general aren't you always in an

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alternate timeline because there are like millions

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of different possible timelines anyway maybe

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i don't know that's a whole theory that i've

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gotten into we can talk about it in another episode

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but If you believe in multiple timelines, then

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you are always in an alternate timeline. You're

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in an alternate timeline than if you chose something

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different for breakfast this morning. But are

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you in an alternate timeline or are you just

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existing and then the timelines existing around

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you? I don't under, this is a thing that I cannot

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understand. My little Kentucky brain cannot understand.

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See, that's an interesting question because I

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always interpreted it as there are multiple dimensions

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in which I exist and I'm doing different things

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in all of them. Does that make sense? I won't

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take that away from you, but I don't understand

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that. I hear you. I hear I can conceptualize

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what you're saying. I do not understand it. It

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goes into the whole thing of like multiple universes.

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And maybe maybe they're out there. We should

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talk about that in a things we don't understand

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episode. We'll get into that. I love that string

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theory and multiple universes and all of that.

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That would be fun. But this one is saying that.

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We're in an alternate timeline in which Donald

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Trump won the election. And we are our job as

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the 4 a .m. club is to collapse this timeline

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into the right timeline. And now we're verging

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into the territory of psychosis. I fear like

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this is this is what I don't understand. And

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this is what I'm complaining about is why can

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like I we're I'm going to go on record. I do

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not like. The presidency, I do not like the administration.

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I do not like anything about it. I have not liked

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anything since November of 2024. I've been mad

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about it. I would argue I haven't been happy

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since November of 2016. Fair. But, like, we didn't

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do this in 2016. I didn't see any of the mentally

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ill or any of the clairvoyance. telling us that

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well if we just crush this timeline then we'll

00:16:02.899 --> 00:16:05.919
go to an alternate time then what what then what

00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:09.720
diva like i at some point you just have to take

00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:12.960
the loss and like almost it kind of sounds like

00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:15.279
they need a reality check of like yes it's horrible

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and yes it's scary and all of these things but

00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:23.360
donald trump is the president right and it For

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what it's worth, there's nothing you as an individual

00:16:26.899 --> 00:16:30.460
can do to change it. No. The only thing you could

00:16:30.460 --> 00:16:33.299
do is get out and vote next time, Diva. No. And

00:16:33.299 --> 00:16:34.940
here's the God's honest truth. You know, there

00:16:34.940 --> 00:16:38.980
are these like there there's the pro V &V lawsuit

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going on right now where if there is any merit

00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:44.379
to it, I am thrilled and excited. That's not

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the same as destroying a timeline and jumping

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to an alternate reality in which Kamala Harris

00:16:51.340 --> 00:16:54.419
won. It's. proving what happened in this timeline

00:16:54.419 --> 00:16:56.919
in this universe and that's and that's the thing

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is we're talking about psychosis we're talking

00:17:01.179 --> 00:17:04.920
about like crazy shit and i'm just like we we

00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.440
have to live in reality babe we gotta we gotta

00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:09.660
figure it out together are you ready for reality

00:17:09.660 --> 00:17:15.200
roundup oh i'm so ready so we've got the traitor

00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.079
season forecast on our list we've got the first

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two episodes of the second season of secret lives

00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:21.950
and mormon wives and then you said you had I

00:17:21.950 --> 00:17:25.970
have something to say about Love Island. Fun

00:17:25.970 --> 00:17:28.390
fact, I've only ever watched like half of an

00:17:28.390 --> 00:17:30.549
episode of Love Island. I don't think you would

00:17:30.549 --> 00:17:32.990
be into it. And honestly, I just wasn't going

00:17:32.990 --> 00:17:35.829
to ever comment on it. No, I want you to comment

00:17:35.829 --> 00:17:39.450
on it. Okay. So what you need to know is that

00:17:39.450 --> 00:17:44.579
the last season of Love Island was. So iconic.

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Like I would, it was probably the biggest season

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to ever occur of Love Island, including in the

00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:56.619
UK. Like it was huge. And we got like celebrities

00:17:56.619 --> 00:17:59.819
out of it. Like people who now have millions

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of followers, they're getting brand deals, they're

00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:03.799
doing all these things. Right. And they're getting

00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:06.319
their own spinoff show, in fact, because everyone

00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:10.849
loves that cast so much. Love that. Yeah. And

00:18:10.849 --> 00:18:12.970
good for them. They were all hot. They all had

00:18:12.970 --> 00:18:15.450
very distinctive personalities and they all you

00:18:15.450 --> 00:18:17.309
could tell they got on really well. Like they

00:18:17.309 --> 00:18:20.589
all really liked each other. And it was cool

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because it was like you were seeing friendships

00:18:23.529 --> 00:18:26.509
blossom as well as like these romantic relationships.

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Oh, I love that. It was beautiful. Yeah. It has

00:18:29.470 --> 00:18:33.910
caused a rift in Love Island, though, because

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now. We have this problem with the girls where

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the whole point of the show, right, is to go

00:18:43.019 --> 00:18:49.619
date a bunch of people and, like, be hot, right?

00:18:50.460 --> 00:18:54.019
What a dream. What an absolute dream. That's

00:18:54.019 --> 00:18:56.640
really the only rule of the show. Be hot and

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date multiple people, okay? And it's turned into

00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:07.279
this thing where... If you go after someone's

00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:13.559
man, you're not a girl's girl. Jesus Christ.

00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:17.740
As if you're not on love fucking island. But

00:19:17.740 --> 00:19:20.140
that's the point of the show, though, Diva. I

00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:22.759
know. And do you actually think let me let me

00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:24.599
ask you this, because from the half of an episode

00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:28.079
I've watched, I got the entire vibe. Do you actually

00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:31.680
think when you leave Casa Amor or whatever the

00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:35.009
fuck it's called that. You're leaving with your

00:19:35.009 --> 00:19:37.670
fucking husband or your wife. Do you actually

00:19:37.670 --> 00:19:41.630
believe that? It's happened so few times. Like,

00:19:41.710 --> 00:19:44.329
OK, that's the other thing about last season

00:19:44.329 --> 00:19:47.769
is that three of the couples, the big three that

00:19:47.769 --> 00:19:49.509
everyone was obsessed with, they're still together

00:19:49.509 --> 00:19:52.710
a year later. That is shocking to me. And you

00:19:52.710 --> 00:19:54.430
could have you could have said, is this true

00:19:54.430 --> 00:19:55.970
or false? And I would have told you that is an

00:19:55.970 --> 00:20:00.730
abject lie. Right. But last season was such an

00:20:00.730 --> 00:20:03.539
independent. It was so different from anything

00:20:03.539 --> 00:20:06.119
we've ever seen on Love Island. And so people.

00:20:07.180 --> 00:20:10.039
But it was it was such a huge draw that that

00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:13.279
was like people's first experience of Love Island.

00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:16.839
And so now they're like, oh, they're going to

00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.660
get married. Oh, OK. OK, I see what you're saying.

00:20:20.859 --> 00:20:23.799
And listen, I do think the girls should have

00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:27.640
the other girls backs in the sense of like they

00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.460
should be there for them when they're upset and

00:20:30.460 --> 00:20:33.579
they should, you know. That's how you're a girl's

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girl. Be friends. I just I have a huge problem

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with this season and I don't even want to say

00:20:38.900 --> 00:20:40.720
her name because she's been getting so much hate

00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:44.279
online. It's the one who's a mother. She's saying.

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One of them is not a girl's girl because of a

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vote that America had. Anyone in America was

00:20:54.069 --> 00:20:56.990
voting for who this girl should pair up with.

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And we all chose the mom's man, right? Because

00:21:03.089 --> 00:21:05.769
they've been together since the beginning and

00:21:05.769 --> 00:21:08.410
they haven't experienced anyone else. And you

00:21:08.410 --> 00:21:12.230
could tell his name is Jeremiah was into this

00:21:12.230 --> 00:21:17.579
new girl. OK, so the next morning they get a

00:21:17.579 --> 00:21:20.980
text at like 5 a .m. All the new couples are

00:21:20.980 --> 00:21:24.859
going on a date, blah, blah, blah, blah. This

00:21:24.859 --> 00:21:28.240
girl has done nothing wrong to the mom, right?

00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:31.380
Nothing wrong to her. And she goes on this tirade

00:21:31.380 --> 00:21:34.900
about. Iris isn't a girl's girl. You can just

00:21:34.900 --> 00:21:36.940
tell she's holding stuff back, blah, blah, blah,

00:21:36.940 --> 00:21:40.700
blah. Oh, Jesus Christ. We have lost the plot

00:21:40.700 --> 00:21:43.019
of Love Island, and that is all I really wanted

00:21:43.019 --> 00:21:46.059
to say about it. I think people have really forgotten

00:21:46.059 --> 00:21:49.779
what the show is about. It's about being hot

00:21:49.779 --> 00:21:52.039
and dating multiple people. You're not finding

00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:54.680
your kid's stepdad there. No. You're not finding

00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:56.839
your future husband there. I get that you're

00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.900
there to find love, whatever. Love in the sense

00:22:00.900 --> 00:22:03.940
of dating for six months, perhaps. Love in the

00:22:03.940 --> 00:22:06.880
sense of getting your puss ate. Right. In front

00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:08.799
of everyone else because you all share a bedroom.

00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:11.859
That's what you're there for. And I want you

00:22:11.859 --> 00:22:15.559
to do that. I want to see it. That's why I watch.

00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:19.460
I don't watch to see you sneaking around listening

00:22:19.460 --> 00:22:22.579
to the boys' conversations. I don't watch it.

00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:26.099
So that I can see how strong your connection

00:22:26.099 --> 00:22:29.400
is with the other girls. I would argue that I

00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:30.740
don't give a fuck how strong your connection

00:22:30.740 --> 00:22:35.779
is. No. God. Like that's just a God's honest

00:22:35.779 --> 00:22:38.079
truth, Eva. Every single challenge they have

00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:41.740
in the whole show, they're all kissing each other.

00:22:41.779 --> 00:22:45.059
That's like the premise of every single challenge

00:22:45.059 --> 00:22:47.619
that they have is that they all make out with

00:22:47.619 --> 00:22:51.319
each other. I love that. Like, that's what you're

00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.319
there for. I don't understand how you can be

00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:55.500
possessive and how you can be, like, catty. It's

00:22:55.500 --> 00:22:58.940
my freshman year at IU. Like, have a good summer,

00:22:59.140 --> 00:23:04.220
mama. Ugh. Anyway. Anyway. Let's get into Traitors.

00:23:04.259 --> 00:23:07.299
I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I can't wait

00:23:07.299 --> 00:23:11.819
for this. So, Traitors season four is confirmed.

00:23:12.059 --> 00:23:15.920
There's not a date yet for the premiere, but

00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:20.509
we have the cast. And there are some huge highlights.

00:23:21.250 --> 00:23:22.950
There are some highlights. And then there are

00:23:22.950 --> 00:23:26.210
some names that I don't know, because to be fair,

00:23:26.269 --> 00:23:28.950
like, I think there are different sects of reality

00:23:28.950 --> 00:23:32.230
TV watching. And some of them I just don't watch.

00:23:32.450 --> 00:23:36.769
But Candace Dillard Bassett. They did her dirty

00:23:36.769 --> 00:23:38.589
with this picture. I don't think this is a great

00:23:38.589 --> 00:23:41.509
picture. No, but you know, she's going to eat

00:23:41.509 --> 00:23:44.289
so hard on that show. The aesthetics of all of

00:23:44.289 --> 00:23:47.269
it. I can't wait. And the thing about Candace

00:23:47.269 --> 00:23:52.509
is she is smart. Like she is intelligent and

00:23:52.509 --> 00:23:55.289
she is going to go the fuck in on these people

00:23:55.289 --> 00:23:57.509
and like make them regret the day they were born.

00:23:57.609 --> 00:24:01.210
And she's not scared of any fucking body at all.

00:24:01.269 --> 00:24:04.069
Like she will say what she thinks, period. She

00:24:04.069 --> 00:24:06.450
does not care. I feel like she's almost going

00:24:06.450 --> 00:24:09.869
to bring the energy that Bob the Drag Queen brought.

00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.960
Which is funny because Monet X Strange is also

00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.039
on this list. Right, which is who I don't care

00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.779
about. We'll get there, we'll get there. I'm

00:24:18.779 --> 00:24:22.099
so excited for Candace. That's like a huge highlight

00:24:22.099 --> 00:24:25.279
for me. That's a win for me. Caroline Stanbury.

00:24:25.859 --> 00:24:28.119
Yeah, I didn't really know her because I didn't

00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:31.900
watch Housewives of Dubai. So before Housewives

00:24:31.900 --> 00:24:36.460
of Dubai, Caroline Stanbury was on a show on

00:24:36.460 --> 00:24:39.980
Bravo called Ladies of London. Which is. Oh,

00:24:40.019 --> 00:24:42.640
right. Yeah. You talk to me about that. An incredible,

00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:47.980
incredible sociology experiment of dropping in

00:24:47.980 --> 00:24:50.339
women from the United States into London society.

00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:54.140
We're like. there's like real rules to London

00:24:54.140 --> 00:24:56.200
society and like watching these people interact

00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:58.960
was just a fucking field day. They have a type

00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:03.119
of old money that doesn't exist in America. Like,

00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:05.759
right. Cause it like literally goes back farther

00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:11.099
than America. Yeah. Like, but Caroline Stanberry

00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:15.779
is part of that old money thing. Like she has

00:25:15.779 --> 00:25:18.880
money. I mean, you live in Dubai. Yeah. Right.

00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.230
Um, So I'm very excited for Caroline Stanberry.

00:25:22.349 --> 00:25:26.970
And she is someone who I'm excited to see people

00:25:26.970 --> 00:25:29.009
attack her almost and not because I want her

00:25:29.009 --> 00:25:31.289
to get attacked, but because when she was on

00:25:31.289 --> 00:25:33.829
Ladies of London and it was the same way on Real

00:25:33.829 --> 00:25:38.910
Housewives of Dubai, she was unshakable, like

00:25:38.910 --> 00:25:41.130
similarly to the way Candace is like where it's

00:25:41.130 --> 00:25:45.880
like you you can't tell her shit. it's so good

00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.420
i love that i hope they're best friends i hope

00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:50.259
so too but and that's the thing is like what

00:25:50.259 --> 00:25:52.740
tends to happen on traitors what i've noticed

00:25:52.740 --> 00:25:56.380
is the housewives tend to pair off yeah even

00:25:56.380 --> 00:25:58.160
when they're not from the same cities they do

00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:01.200
even if they don't like each other they do tend

00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:03.740
to gravitate towards one another yeah they are

00:26:03.740 --> 00:26:06.819
like a very different breed than like someone

00:26:06.819 --> 00:26:09.160
from survivor big brother you know what i mean

00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:13.690
um I'm excited to see Dorinda back. Dorinda Medley.

00:26:13.950 --> 00:26:17.589
I am so excited to see Dorinda back. She left

00:26:17.589 --> 00:26:20.170
far too soon. She was the first elimination.

00:26:20.509 --> 00:26:24.369
Yeah. And I think they knew when she was killed

00:26:24.369 --> 00:26:27.210
first. She was coming back. That she needed to

00:26:27.210 --> 00:26:29.349
come back because she didn't really get her moment.

00:26:29.450 --> 00:26:33.190
And like she she was still like such a strong

00:26:33.190 --> 00:26:35.890
personality in the one episode she was in. Like

00:26:35.890 --> 00:26:38.819
she was still like. I'm sure people's favorites

00:26:38.819 --> 00:26:43.779
like starting off. The thing about Dorinda, you

00:26:43.779 --> 00:26:46.460
never you have you haven't seen her on Real Housewives

00:26:46.460 --> 00:26:50.779
of New York. She comes in the season that Bethany

00:26:50.779 --> 00:26:56.079
comes back. Oh, and the way that she holds up

00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:03.970
like there she she does have seasons where. she

00:27:03.970 --> 00:27:06.690
doesn't come off shining like the star that she

00:27:06.690 --> 00:27:09.869
is which it happens it happens to every housewife

00:27:09.869 --> 00:27:14.789
yeah what she does is she likes two or three

00:27:14.789 --> 00:27:16.630
dirty martinis and this is one of my favorite

00:27:16.630 --> 00:27:18.690
things about her I like if Dorinda if you ever

00:27:18.690 --> 00:27:21.710
hear this just know that like I see the relationship

00:27:21.710 --> 00:27:25.009
you have with your daughter Hannah and all I

00:27:25.009 --> 00:27:27.710
want is a relationship like that with a mother

00:27:27.710 --> 00:27:31.809
who's not my mother Never any shade towards you,

00:27:31.809 --> 00:27:34.369
Dorinda. I love Dorinda. Dorinda can do the way

00:27:34.369 --> 00:27:36.569
Bethany can do no wrong. And as far as I'm concerned,

00:27:36.690 --> 00:27:39.269
Dorinda can also do no wrong. She just seems

00:27:39.269 --> 00:27:41.769
like such a sweetie, too. She really, really,

00:27:41.809 --> 00:27:43.750
really is. She has such a big, strong personality.

00:27:43.750 --> 00:27:46.750
But you can tell, like, if someone needs her,

00:27:46.769 --> 00:27:49.269
she's there. You know what I mean? Also, there's

00:27:49.269 --> 00:27:52.009
no bullshit. Yeah. I'm excited to see her and

00:27:52.009 --> 00:27:56.589
Candace interact. I think they would be thick

00:27:56.589 --> 00:28:00.230
as thieves or really butt. I think they're going

00:28:00.230 --> 00:28:03.029
to be really good friends. I think who Dorinda

00:28:03.029 --> 00:28:04.589
is going to have a hard time with is Caroline

00:28:04.589 --> 00:28:07.109
Stanbury because Dorinda lived in London for

00:28:07.109 --> 00:28:12.470
several years. And I think that there's a clashing

00:28:12.470 --> 00:28:13.970
thing that's going to happen there. A hundred

00:28:13.970 --> 00:28:16.569
percent. I see that. I don't know who Eric Nam

00:28:16.569 --> 00:28:18.170
is. I don't know who he is. I'm sure he's going

00:28:18.170 --> 00:28:20.130
to be great. I don't know this Big Brother guy.

00:28:20.609 --> 00:28:24.970
Ian Terry. Johnny Weir. I'm excited for Johnny

00:28:24.970 --> 00:28:30.269
Weir. I love him. I think he's so cool and so

00:28:30.269 --> 00:28:33.210
funny, but I haven't seen him that much. Like,

00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:35.430
I haven't seen that much of him, so I'm excited

00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:37.930
to see what he's like in a shared house like

00:28:37.930 --> 00:28:42.259
that. My exposure to him has been... through

00:28:42.259 --> 00:28:45.559
I oh god well what's the show where the Project

00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.079
Runway yeah he came on Project Runway as a guest

00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.839
judge and he was hysterical he's so funny he's

00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.819
very funny yeah I I think he'll be like class

00:28:56.819 --> 00:29:00.200
clown kind of light in the mood yes Kristen Kish

00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:07.170
I am familiar with I respect her as a chef and

00:29:07.170 --> 00:29:10.250
personality but i don't know how her personality

00:29:10.250 --> 00:29:15.750
is gonna do on traitor she's like a very no bullshit

00:29:15.750 --> 00:29:18.390
yeah she's like always been a host and stuff

00:29:18.390 --> 00:29:20.670
like that so i've never seen her like participating

00:29:20.670 --> 00:29:23.730
in something like i've oh you've seen her like

00:29:23.730 --> 00:29:25.549
running the show you've never seen her being

00:29:25.549 --> 00:29:28.150
in the show right got it okay so i don't know

00:29:28.150 --> 00:29:31.660
she seems to like Just to me off of what I've

00:29:31.660 --> 00:29:34.539
seen, she seems to have like a very dominant

00:29:34.539 --> 00:29:37.380
personality. And I don't know. Oh, I think that'll

00:29:37.380 --> 00:29:39.400
be good. Yeah. I don't really know how that's

00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.740
going to play out. However, she's very hot. She's

00:29:42.740 --> 00:29:46.920
actually gorgeous. Like. Yeah. And there's like

00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:50.650
a. Like a badass look about her that I'm very

00:29:50.650 --> 00:29:53.569
into. I like that. I like it. She always has

00:29:53.569 --> 00:29:55.890
like this short hair tatted up thing going on.

00:29:55.910 --> 00:29:58.470
I love a lady with short hair. I think it is

00:29:58.470 --> 00:30:01.069
so high. Yeah. There's just like, oh, I love

00:30:01.069 --> 00:30:04.450
it. She tends to wear kind of like a sporty suit

00:30:04.450 --> 00:30:09.650
situation. Love that. Yeah. Okay. Who's next?

00:30:10.109 --> 00:30:14.750
Survivor or not a survivor? Rob Sesternino. i'm

00:30:14.750 --> 00:30:16.930
i'm gonna be you know what i'm gonna say yeah

00:30:16.930 --> 00:30:21.990
yeah not no to this man i'm into it uh lisa rena

00:30:21.990 --> 00:30:26.950
i can't wait for her to get too drunk in the

00:30:26.950 --> 00:30:30.509
trader's house and show that monkey i this is

00:30:30.509 --> 00:30:32.829
something that the traders is i would argue this

00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:34.490
is something traders has needed since season

00:30:34.490 --> 00:30:39.359
one because lisa rena oh god so You know, her

00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:41.259
whole backstory where like she started on like

00:30:41.259 --> 00:30:44.400
Days of Our Lives or like one of the one of the

00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:48.400
soap operas on NBC. And so she's been in that

00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.000
world since the 90s. I was going to say, yeah.

00:30:52.180 --> 00:30:58.119
And she is good at at reality television. I've

00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:01.779
I want to say she was on like Celebrity Celebrity

00:31:01.779 --> 00:31:05.480
Big Brother and like was it. I don't know what

00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.960
she. She did one of these competition shows and

00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.160
she was very, very good at it. I can see that

00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.960
for her because she knows how to play the game.

00:31:13.019 --> 00:31:17.299
She's been in the the industry for long enough

00:31:17.299 --> 00:31:19.180
that like she knows how to play the game. But

00:31:19.180 --> 00:31:23.799
also she is so fun. She is fun and she's funny.

00:31:24.220 --> 00:31:29.259
She is genuinely hysterical. I'm really excited

00:31:29.259 --> 00:31:33.400
to see her. Mark Ballas, you also know what I'm

00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:38.000
going to say. Yeah. Not no to this man. I'm not

00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.380
a Dancing with the Stars girl. I watch it if

00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:42.099
there are like celebrities on there that are

00:31:42.099 --> 00:31:44.400
interesting to me, but that's it. And I don't,

00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.160
I wouldn't say I watch it. I watch clips of it.

00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:51.539
I think he's hot. Maura Higgins. Okay. Obviously

00:31:51.539 --> 00:31:53.119
you're not going to know who Maura Higgins is.

00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.759
She doesn't have like. She's gorgeous. Oh my

00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:01.440
God. She is stunning. She is beautiful. I feel

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:03.900
like she could really be a dark horse because

00:32:03.900 --> 00:32:06.720
she tends to like, she's super fun and flirty

00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.059
and fresh, but she tends to like keep to herself

00:32:09.059 --> 00:32:12.119
a little bit compared to the other people I'm

00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:14.759
seeing on this cast. It's hard when you have

00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.220
a ton of big personalities to like fit in, I

00:32:17.220 --> 00:32:20.019
feel like. Yeah. Because there's a lot of, like

00:32:20.019 --> 00:32:25.059
a ton of personality. She would absolutely eat

00:32:25.059 --> 00:32:29.440
as a traitor. She would eat because I think she

00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:33.019
would know how to like fly under the radar. Yes.

00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.359
If you hear a harmonica, that's just our soundtrack

00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:39.559
today. Jack's playing his little harmonica. It's

00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:41.099
perfect. I don't think they'll be able to hear

00:32:41.099 --> 00:32:44.759
it. But yeah, I love Maura Higgins. I think she's

00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.019
funny. I think she's really cool. I do think

00:32:47.019 --> 00:32:49.160
she's more reserved than some of the other people

00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:53.630
in this cast. Yeah. So. I don't know. I think

00:32:53.630 --> 00:32:55.349
she would do a really good job as a traitor.

00:32:55.490 --> 00:32:57.730
If I were a producer, I would be making her a

00:32:57.730 --> 00:33:03.589
traitor. Michael Rapaport can go to hell. I have

00:33:03.589 --> 00:33:06.130
a feeling he will be one of the early ones to

00:33:06.130 --> 00:33:08.490
go. Oh, yeah. He's going to get cut early. And

00:33:08.490 --> 00:33:10.069
I don't think any of these other people are going

00:33:10.069 --> 00:33:14.670
to like him. No, no, no, no. Anyway. Yeah. Monet

00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:21.309
exchange. Yeah. OK. Here's the thing. I don't

00:33:21.309 --> 00:33:24.890
know how to say this in any other way. I, I don't

00:33:24.890 --> 00:33:27.450
know. I don't understand her personality without

00:33:27.450 --> 00:33:31.089
Bob the drag queen. Yeah. So I was going to say,

00:33:31.130 --> 00:33:34.150
it might be interesting to see her separated

00:33:34.150 --> 00:33:37.730
from Bob the drag queen. Like maybe she'll shine

00:33:37.730 --> 00:33:40.329
in her own individual way. I just don't really

00:33:40.329 --> 00:33:43.250
know what to expect. Yeah. And like, and maybe

00:33:43.250 --> 00:33:46.250
it's not that I don't like her. I think that

00:33:46.250 --> 00:33:51.710
she's a very talented queen. Yeah. I only know

00:33:51.710 --> 00:33:54.710
her like the only frame of reference I have is

00:33:54.710 --> 00:33:57.829
sibling rivalry with Bob, the drag queen of Money

00:33:57.829 --> 00:34:00.950
Exchange and RuPaul's Drag Race. Like that's

00:34:00.950 --> 00:34:03.150
that's the extent of my frame of reference. I've

00:34:03.150 --> 00:34:05.890
only seen her on RuPaul and like I don't even

00:34:05.890 --> 00:34:09.230
really like recall the sponges. That's that's

00:34:09.230 --> 00:34:11.210
what I that's what I remember about Money Exchange

00:34:11.210 --> 00:34:13.710
is the sponges. And I just I mean, I don't know.

00:34:13.769 --> 00:34:15.789
Maybe she'll be great, but I don't really know

00:34:15.789 --> 00:34:18.969
what to expect from her. I, again, Natalie Anderson.

00:34:19.130 --> 00:34:21.429
I don't watch. I don't know who that is. Portia

00:34:21.429 --> 00:34:25.030
Williams. Portia Williams. Ah, stunning, beautiful

00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:27.550
queen. Let me tell you about Portia Williams.

00:34:27.690 --> 00:34:29.590
OK, so this is a couple of things about Portia.

00:34:31.150 --> 00:34:36.510
I have loved her from day one on Real Housewives

00:34:36.510 --> 00:34:41.769
of Atlanta. She came on and she was. I think

00:34:41.769 --> 00:34:43.369
she was playing a role because she was married

00:34:43.369 --> 00:34:48.429
to Cordell. Cordell Williams. Oh, and she was

00:34:48.429 --> 00:34:51.309
playing the role of like ditzy housewife. And

00:34:51.309 --> 00:34:56.130
this this clip has floated around on TikTok for

00:34:56.130 --> 00:35:00.929
years where she didn't. I don't believe she didn't

00:35:00.929 --> 00:35:04.369
understand the Underground Railroad, but she

00:35:04.369 --> 00:35:07.869
pretends to think that it was an actual an actual

00:35:07.869 --> 00:35:12.980
train. Yeah, I've seen that. But like something

00:35:12.980 --> 00:35:14.820
you need to understand about Portia Williams

00:35:14.820 --> 00:35:18.239
is she is a walking comedy show. Like she is

00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:22.719
hysterical. She's gorgeous. One of the most beautiful

00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.960
women I've ever seen in my life. I cannot wait

00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:27.800
to see her interact with Candace because they

00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:29.420
are either going to be best friends or they are

00:35:29.420 --> 00:35:31.909
going to be. at each other's throats immediately

00:35:31.909 --> 00:35:36.550
and i cannot wait to see it so i've only i've

00:35:36.550 --> 00:35:39.030
watched real housewives of atlanta in like bits

00:35:39.030 --> 00:35:42.530
and pieces it's not something where like potomac

00:35:42.530 --> 00:35:45.650
i've watched every single episode in order i've

00:35:45.650 --> 00:35:48.150
just like i used to watch atlanta when it was

00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:51.489
on because i loved the whole cast like that wow

00:35:51.489 --> 00:35:57.840
stunning and funny cast in atlanta um Everything

00:35:57.840 --> 00:35:59.380
I've ever seen of Portia has been hilarious.

00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:05.219
She is hilarious. So funny. So funny. But I also

00:36:05.219 --> 00:36:07.579
think Candace is very funny, so it might be one

00:36:07.579 --> 00:36:10.239
of those things where they're so similar that

00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.000
they just don't get along. Because I think that

00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.760
happens a lot, especially in real life. People

00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:21.610
who are too similar... only see the differences

00:36:21.610 --> 00:36:23.969
in each other and so they just clash and clash

00:36:23.969 --> 00:36:27.110
and clash um but i am excited to see her i'm

00:36:27.110 --> 00:36:29.730
really excited i love i'm i love portia williams

00:36:29.730 --> 00:36:32.369
i think she is just the greatest i love her i

00:36:32.369 --> 00:36:34.090
love her i love her i think she is going to be

00:36:34.090 --> 00:36:37.610
a shining diamond in that house i also think

00:36:37.610 --> 00:36:39.829
she can bring the drama because she's a little

00:36:39.829 --> 00:36:44.530
messy very messy Rob Roush. I don't know who

00:36:44.530 --> 00:36:47.469
that is. I love Rob. Okay, he was from last season

00:36:47.469 --> 00:36:49.730
of Love Island that I just talked about was like

00:36:49.730 --> 00:36:52.269
a huge big deal. He's not one of the ones that

00:36:52.269 --> 00:36:54.670
ended up in a couple, but people do love him.

00:36:54.730 --> 00:36:57.250
He's a Louisiana boy. If he would like to end

00:36:57.250 --> 00:37:02.170
up in a couple, I am single. He is cute and he's

00:37:02.170 --> 00:37:06.639
tall and he's tattooed. Perfect. He's checking

00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.539
every box. And the last time I saw anything from

00:37:09.539 --> 00:37:13.139
Rob, it was like his sister was like crying,

00:37:13.260 --> 00:37:15.320
upset about something. I don't know, like boy

00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.760
problems or something. And so and he just like

00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.780
pulled her around in a boat until she stopped

00:37:19.780 --> 00:37:22.639
crying. He's just he looks like a sweetheart.

00:37:23.019 --> 00:37:27.039
Louisiana boy. Right. And he he did do my girl

00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:29.920
a little dirty on Love Island. But it's Love

00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:33.409
Island. And yeah, I think that. I think he'll

00:37:33.409 --> 00:37:35.489
be great. I don't think he'll last that long.

00:37:35.590 --> 00:37:38.570
I don't think he's the sharpest knife in the

00:37:38.570 --> 00:37:42.590
box. If you think otherwise, dear viewer, feel

00:37:42.590 --> 00:37:47.230
free to send me an email about it. But I don't

00:37:47.230 --> 00:37:51.010
know how long he'll last in there. I think he

00:37:51.010 --> 00:37:53.389
doesn't really know how to be sneaky. But here's

00:37:53.389 --> 00:37:56.769
the God's honest truth. If he needs arms to run

00:37:56.769 --> 00:38:00.610
into after he gets eliminated, by God, my arms

00:38:00.610 --> 00:38:06.099
are open. He is a beautiful man. Rob Funches.

00:38:06.099 --> 00:38:07.920
I don't know how to say his last name, but I

00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.420
have seen him and stuff. And I think he's funny.

00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:12.579
I don't know. I don't know. Kind of a random

00:38:12.579 --> 00:38:16.360
pick for them, I think. But I'm excited. We'll

00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:18.659
see where it goes. Yeah. I love to see a comedian

00:38:18.659 --> 00:38:22.800
on Traders. I think. Stephen Coletti from One

00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.880
Tree Hill. I mean, I've seen One Tree Hill, but

00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.030
like. I've never seen One Tree Hill. I remember

00:38:29.030 --> 00:38:30.889
it used to come on either right before or right

00:38:30.889 --> 00:38:34.190
after Charmed. That's the only reason I've seen

00:38:34.190 --> 00:38:37.929
it. I think it was right after because I don't

00:38:37.929 --> 00:38:40.489
know. I don't know. Kind of, again, one of those

00:38:40.489 --> 00:38:43.550
like weird random picks. But I'll tell you, when

00:38:43.550 --> 00:38:48.869
the last cast came out and I saw Dylan Efron,

00:38:49.090 --> 00:38:53.210
I was like, oh, who is you? And then I loved

00:38:53.210 --> 00:38:57.150
him. I still love him. You know what I mean?

00:38:57.210 --> 00:38:59.010
So like some of these I'm saying, oh, what a

00:38:59.010 --> 00:39:00.969
weird random pick and I might fall in love with

00:39:00.969 --> 00:39:02.789
them. Let me let me tell you something. At the

00:39:02.789 --> 00:39:06.949
end of the day, you you can you can know one

00:39:06.949 --> 00:39:11.230
thing. I trust the judgment of the producers

00:39:11.230 --> 00:39:15.289
at NBC, Universal and Peacock to cast the traitors.

00:39:15.650 --> 00:39:19.429
They can tell me they can bring on anyone. They

00:39:19.429 --> 00:39:23.210
can bring on George from down the street. I trust

00:39:23.210 --> 00:39:26.769
you. Yeah, he must have that spark in him because,

00:39:26.849 --> 00:39:30.349
yeah, I don't know. That's all I'm going to say.

00:39:30.449 --> 00:39:32.929
I didn't think Dylan Efron was going to be that

00:39:32.929 --> 00:39:36.269
amazing to me, and he literally took my heart

00:39:36.269 --> 00:39:39.750
away. So I don't know. Tara Lipinski is going

00:39:39.750 --> 00:39:42.590
to be best friends with Johnny Weir. Yeah. Which

00:39:42.590 --> 00:39:44.530
is cool. Both figure skaters. I don't really

00:39:44.530 --> 00:39:47.050
know anything about her, though. Have you seen

00:39:47.050 --> 00:39:50.010
her anywhere else? Only on the Olympics, but

00:39:50.010 --> 00:39:52.320
I know that she was. Very, very talented. I feel

00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:56.940
like she was also in the episode of Project Runway

00:39:56.940 --> 00:40:00.739
that... Were they partners? Did they skate together?

00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:04.679
Maybe. I bet we find out on the traders. I bet

00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:06.400
we find out when their best friends are running

00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.980
around. Yeah. Tiffany Mitchell from Big Brother.

00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:12.059
Never watched Big Brother. Didn't know. Yam Yam.

00:40:12.059 --> 00:40:14.420
You're going to know something else about this

00:40:14.420 --> 00:40:20.840
man and me. Yeah. Yamiel Orocho. Orocho? Orocho.

00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:24.360
Orocho. Yam Yam from Survivor. Not know to him.

00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.489
Don't know him, but. I'm excited to see. Yeah,

00:40:28.570 --> 00:40:30.150
I think it's going to be a really great season.

00:40:30.269 --> 00:40:32.869
I think The Traitors has only gotten better and

00:40:32.869 --> 00:40:36.809
better each season. Oh, my God. They can do no

00:40:36.809 --> 00:40:41.030
wrong in my eyes. Gold. And this cast is amazing.

00:40:41.150 --> 00:40:43.530
I don't see this season going any differently.

00:40:44.409 --> 00:40:46.170
Are you ready for The Secret Lives of Mormon

00:40:46.170 --> 00:40:50.949
Wives? Yes. So here's the thing. Travis has only

00:40:50.949 --> 00:40:53.130
seen episodes one and two, so we're going to

00:40:53.130 --> 00:40:55.090
try to get through this without me absolutely

00:40:55.090 --> 00:41:01.050
spoiling it for him. Let us dive in. Let's dive

00:41:01.050 --> 00:41:03.969
in. So we start episode one. It's called The

00:41:03.969 --> 00:41:08.190
Book of Revelations. The opening scene is the

00:41:08.190 --> 00:41:10.829
season opener party where they what they're trying

00:41:10.829 --> 00:41:14.489
very hard to do is take the Real Housewives format.

00:41:15.230 --> 00:41:17.789
where they have a season opening party and it's

00:41:17.789 --> 00:41:20.929
a whole thing. And it's like you're reintroduced

00:41:20.929 --> 00:41:22.929
to the show. That's very clear what's happening

00:41:22.929 --> 00:41:27.530
during this party is where I was trying to, like,

00:41:27.550 --> 00:41:29.769
figure out who was who, because, you know, that

00:41:29.769 --> 00:41:33.150
like two or three of the girls were exactly the

00:41:33.150 --> 00:41:35.510
same person in my mind. And that's why I like

00:41:35.510 --> 00:41:39.250
I had to take detailed notes because I thought

00:41:39.250 --> 00:41:44.460
Jen Taylor and. Is it Demi? I think Jen Taylor

00:41:44.460 --> 00:41:46.119
and Demi, I thought were the same person for

00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:49.539
a little bit. Yeah. In your defense, a lot of

00:41:49.539 --> 00:41:52.760
them look very similar. They're all getting their

00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.860
procedures done at the same place. Hello. So

00:41:55.860 --> 00:41:59.679
it's like they all look the same, though. Demon

00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:03.500
Monster Whitney is back. That's all I have to

00:42:03.500 --> 00:42:06.320
say about her. I don't like Whitney. If that

00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:10.119
changes during the season, then that changes.

00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:14.940
I do not like Whitney. It was Aspen Ovard was

00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:16.900
at their opening party. I don't know who that

00:42:16.900 --> 00:42:20.760
is. She's an influencer. It was kind of weird.

00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:24.860
It's all kind of like too self -aware for me.

00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.820
Yeah. This is going to bring me to a point in

00:42:27.820 --> 00:42:31.980
a minute, but go ahead. I feel like I don't know.

00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:33.960
And you'll have to watch the rest of it and see

00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:37.139
how you feel about it. I feel like Whitney is

00:42:37.139 --> 00:42:40.420
there because she wants that MomTalk money. That's

00:42:40.420 --> 00:42:42.980
all any of them are there for. And this is what

00:42:42.980 --> 00:42:45.920
we need to realize. This is a reality show. They're

00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.699
making a reality show based on a TikTok influencer

00:42:50.699 --> 00:42:54.239
group, which is fine. Yeah. But let's not make

00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:57.639
it about anything else. Like, I want to see what's

00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.340
going on in their lives just like I want to see

00:42:59.340 --> 00:43:00.739
what's going on in the Real Housewives lives.

00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.199
Right. But that doesn't mean you have to pretend

00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:08.320
to be best friends. So I would I come at it from

00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.840
a different angle where like the best housewife

00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:14.119
shows are the shows where they have real relationships.

00:43:14.139 --> 00:43:17.300
I agree. I just don't think Whitney is there

00:43:17.300 --> 00:43:19.739
in order to gain a real relationship. I agree.

00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:24.579
I think she's there to get that check, baby.

00:43:24.699 --> 00:43:27.880
And that's fine. I just I have a hard time with

00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.760
this whole thing of like my mom taught group.

00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:34.219
I'm so protective of her. No, you're not. No,

00:43:34.219 --> 00:43:35.199
you're not. Cause you're going to get the check.

00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.500
You throw it. Stop. Just stop. Like that seems

00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:41.679
disingenuous to me. Yeah. Whitney really didn't

00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.539
grow on me at all. No, I do not like Whitney.

00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.820
And maybe that'll change. I do not like her right

00:43:47.820 --> 00:43:51.320
now. New girl, Miranda used to be best friends

00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.639
with Taylor. Okay. So, so, you know, the tea,

00:43:54.780 --> 00:43:57.480
she was like part of the group that was swinging.

00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.860
Right. And that I listen, I'm going to go on

00:44:00.860 --> 00:44:02.340
record right now. If you want to swing, swing.

00:44:02.989 --> 00:44:05.630
I want that for you. I love that for you. I would

00:44:05.630 --> 00:44:07.849
love to know the actual truth of this situation,

00:44:08.070 --> 00:44:11.010
though. I too. Because there is such a weird.

00:44:11.650 --> 00:44:14.429
And you'll see if you haven't yet. They like

00:44:14.429 --> 00:44:18.309
Taylor and Miranda talk about it. And we still

00:44:18.309 --> 00:44:20.829
don't really know what the real truth is. I've

00:44:20.829 --> 00:44:23.769
seen the preview of it. OK. But as of right now,

00:44:23.869 --> 00:44:27.030
all we all we have heard from Miranda is I only

00:44:27.030 --> 00:44:29.550
played the bottle or played spin the bottle and

00:44:29.550 --> 00:44:33.699
kissed a guy. So like, OK, I want you to watch

00:44:33.699 --> 00:44:35.940
a couple more episodes where Miranda gets to

00:44:35.940 --> 00:44:39.579
say her piece. And then I want to dive into what

00:44:39.579 --> 00:44:42.039
we think the real truth is, because I'll tell

00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:44.599
you right now, we never get like a here is what

00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:49.119
happened. We never get that. We go to Jen and

00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.500
Zach. Their marriage is falling apart and now

00:44:52.500 --> 00:44:54.579
they're separated. Here's what I believe happened

00:44:54.579 --> 00:44:57.809
with Jen and Zach. I believe Jen. started making

00:44:57.809 --> 00:45:01.550
a ton of money from MomTalk. She's a multi -millionaire

00:45:01.550 --> 00:45:04.050
from being an influencer and the brand deal she's

00:45:04.050 --> 00:45:06.510
getting and from the check she's getting from

00:45:06.510 --> 00:45:10.670
Hulu. 100%. I believe Zach said, oh, I can take

00:45:10.670 --> 00:45:13.550
a year in profit off of this. I think he might

00:45:13.550 --> 00:45:15.670
have said, I don't need to be a doctor anymore.

00:45:16.250 --> 00:45:18.869
Maybe. You're married. Or maybe he wants to take

00:45:18.869 --> 00:45:21.550
a minute and be a dad. They have kids. Whatever

00:45:21.550 --> 00:45:26.739
you want. I don't care. What I don't need is

00:45:26.739 --> 00:45:31.079
the narcissistic, well, I'm taking time away

00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:33.260
from med school for you. I don't want all that.

00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:38.159
Yeah, it made me very uncomfortable. You have

00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:41.320
not gotten to the pin drop for Jen and Zach yet.

00:45:41.860 --> 00:45:45.420
We'll get there when we get there. It's mostly

00:45:45.420 --> 00:45:50.519
Jen. Jen, I'll just say this to those of you

00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:56.099
who have already seen this whole season. I am

00:45:56.099 --> 00:46:00.280
on Jen's side, and I think my heart goes out

00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.300
to her, truly. You need to see what happens and

00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:05.239
how they treat her this season. It is actually

00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:09.500
disgusting, in my opinion. Okay, fair. I will

00:46:09.500 --> 00:46:12.840
say Zach does look better with the new haircut.

00:46:13.019 --> 00:46:16.739
I agree. I agree. I'm going to be nice about

00:46:16.739 --> 00:46:22.019
Zach on the podcast. I don't want to be a homophobe.

00:46:24.750 --> 00:46:28.210
Moving on. During Pride Month. Not in June. So

00:46:28.210 --> 00:46:33.849
I forgot that season one closed with Macy calling

00:46:33.849 --> 00:46:39.909
Dakota's side chick Jenna. And we pick up at

00:46:39.909 --> 00:46:44.829
Macy's house with them meeting up with Jenna.

00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:51.099
Yes. OK, that was that was so I could not believe.

00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:56.239
And I love Macy. I really like Macy. This whole

00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:58.739
season, she's really in her bag. I love her.

00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.579
And I love that she was like, yeah, we can have

00:47:02.579 --> 00:47:05.360
your baby daddy's side chick over to my house.

00:47:05.420 --> 00:47:07.539
I would love to see that. Let me tell you something

00:47:07.539 --> 00:47:13.639
else. I love that this girl signed a. Release

00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:17.679
and said, yeah, I'll go on TV. I love that. I

00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.280
love mess. And I love because what I wholeheartedly

00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.780
believe. And this is something about Utah and

00:47:24.780 --> 00:47:27.039
Salt Lake City in general, Salt Lake City in

00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:31.099
Utah in general, where I believe that they are

00:47:31.099 --> 00:47:34.880
not. They're self -aware that they're public.

00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.159
They're not self -aware that their reality stars

00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:42.070
yet. And this girl said. I'm just going to go

00:47:42.070 --> 00:47:45.869
on TV and talk about my experience. Diva, you're

00:47:45.869 --> 00:47:50.730
going to shatter glass ceilings right here. You're

00:47:50.730 --> 00:47:54.670
being an icon. The way she handed Taylor her

00:47:54.670 --> 00:47:57.130
phone and she said, read it, mama. I don't care.

00:47:57.730 --> 00:48:01.389
Queen, queen, queen, queen. Loved it. I would

00:48:01.389 --> 00:48:04.119
argue that we need more. girls like that to be

00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.260
allies. Just be a hundred percent transparent.

00:48:07.579 --> 00:48:09.800
I think it comes from a place of insecurity.

00:48:09.980 --> 00:48:11.980
Most of the time when girls like don't share

00:48:11.980 --> 00:48:14.320
anything and are like that, I think it comes,

00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.320
it's a genuine place, but it is a place of insecurity.

00:48:18.099 --> 00:48:19.599
Well, because it's like, I was the other girl.

00:48:19.659 --> 00:48:22.739
Like, well, I fully get that. Yeah. But this

00:48:22.739 --> 00:48:25.280
girl just handed her phone right on over to Taylor.

00:48:25.300 --> 00:48:27.179
And you could tell Taylor wanted to be mad at

00:48:27.179 --> 00:48:29.159
her so bad, but couldn't be mad at her. She couldn't

00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.579
find it in her. And that's where the breakdown

00:48:31.579 --> 00:48:33.289
came from. Because I think she went into the

00:48:33.289 --> 00:48:35.550
situation and she said, I'm going to rip this

00:48:35.550 --> 00:48:37.409
girl apart. I'm going to take this girl on national

00:48:37.409 --> 00:48:40.909
television. I'm going to ruin her. And she couldn't

00:48:40.909 --> 00:48:42.829
do it because the girl was so forthright and

00:48:42.829 --> 00:48:45.510
honest. A hundred percent. And that's where the

00:48:45.510 --> 00:48:48.730
tears and like the ugly sobbing came from. Because

00:48:48.730 --> 00:48:52.849
I think that she was like. fuck i don't i don't

00:48:52.849 --> 00:48:55.670
have an out here i think she expected for jenna

00:48:55.670 --> 00:48:59.010
to be vindictive or even like possessive over

00:48:59.010 --> 00:49:01.889
what she had with dakota but she's an absolute

00:49:01.889 --> 00:49:04.489
icon and a queen who was like i i don't care

00:49:04.489 --> 00:49:08.289
about that man read my text uh i yeah loved it

00:49:08.289 --> 00:49:12.750
loved it loved it Even when Taylor was being

00:49:12.750 --> 00:49:15.349
absolutely delusional, like asking about specific

00:49:15.349 --> 00:49:18.789
dates that are like over a year in the past and

00:49:18.789 --> 00:49:21.550
asking about. But she was still honest and she's

00:49:21.550 --> 00:49:23.050
like, hang on, what did we say around that date?

00:49:23.130 --> 00:49:25.809
And she like filled in the gap for her. Yeah,

00:49:25.809 --> 00:49:27.650
she was like going through her text with Dakota

00:49:27.650 --> 00:49:29.550
during that time frame and was like, yeah, I

00:49:29.550 --> 00:49:32.289
saw him that day. I guess I didn't see him that

00:49:32.289 --> 00:49:34.269
day, but what we said was this and this and this.

00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.199
And then she was like, so there was like one

00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.420
point where she didn't remember and like she

00:49:39.420 --> 00:49:41.079
just stood on business because Taylor kind of

00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:42.980
put pressure on her to be like, well, what is

00:49:42.980 --> 00:49:46.659
it? And she was like, girl, I don't know. But

00:49:46.659 --> 00:49:49.679
the saddest part, I think, was where I guess

00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.380
Dakota and I do believe this. Dakota said, I'm

00:49:52.380 --> 00:49:54.380
only hanging out with Taylor to like grow my

00:49:54.380 --> 00:49:57.139
social media following. And I was like, fuck

00:49:57.139 --> 00:50:00.139
you. I knew he was a clout chaser. I knew he

00:50:00.139 --> 00:50:02.420
was a clout chaser. But he was like, how could

00:50:02.420 --> 00:50:05.199
he have known? What he was getting into with

00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.079
Taylor that early on. She already had millions

00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.559
of followers. Is she really? She's been big on

00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:14.500
TikTok forever. She was the girl. If you don't

00:50:14.500 --> 00:50:18.199
know this about Taylor, Frankie Paul, she was

00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:22.380
the girl who was going on TikTok with two girls

00:50:22.380 --> 00:50:26.260
who were her same age and saying that she was

00:50:26.260 --> 00:50:31.449
50 and they were her kids. i don't remember this

00:50:31.449 --> 00:50:33.889
you need to do a deep dive on this because it's

00:50:33.889 --> 00:50:36.769
it was actually like i don't know what she was

00:50:36.769 --> 00:50:38.889
thinking but she was like telling all of tiktok

00:50:38.889 --> 00:50:41.769
this is how she like gained her initial following

00:50:41.769 --> 00:50:44.610
i think it was years ago i'm not shading her

00:50:44.610 --> 00:50:47.769
for this by the way but she would go on there

00:50:47.769 --> 00:50:50.409
and she would say yeah me and my two girls and

00:50:50.409 --> 00:50:52.610
it would be like picture miranda and michaela

00:50:52.610 --> 00:50:56.360
like next to her dancing and she's like I'm their

00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:59.519
mom. I'm 50 years old. And she's our age. Yeah.

00:50:59.619 --> 00:51:03.460
Okay. Yeah. It's kind of a weird thing, but she's

00:51:03.460 --> 00:51:09.039
always had a lot of followers. So, dear listener,

00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:11.940
just know that an upcoming Mama Let's Research

00:51:11.940 --> 00:51:14.880
segment will be about one Miss Taylor Frankie

00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:18.630
Paul. She has a lot of depth to her. And can

00:51:18.630 --> 00:51:20.769
I just say, I'm really not shading Taylor. I

00:51:20.769 --> 00:51:25.030
think she went through it this season. Oh, a

00:51:25.030 --> 00:51:26.989
million percent. I can see it coming. It's going

00:51:26.989 --> 00:51:28.789
to be a dark, dark, dark season for her. It is

00:51:28.789 --> 00:51:33.309
hard on her. And I think she really handled it

00:51:33.309 --> 00:51:36.969
with grace for the most part. There's an incident

00:51:36.969 --> 00:51:39.789
you'll see where it's like she could have just

00:51:39.789 --> 00:51:45.489
let some shit go. But she... The way her family

00:51:45.489 --> 00:51:48.090
wasn't on her side, the way no one's on her side.

00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:50.869
I've got notes about that one, too. She, yeah,

00:51:51.110 --> 00:51:54.989
she really handled most of it with grace. Anyway,

00:51:55.150 --> 00:52:00.150
yeah. Miranda and Whitney go to the park. I could

00:52:00.150 --> 00:52:01.610
have done without that. That's all I'll say.

00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:03.449
I also could have done without the haunted house,

00:52:03.510 --> 00:52:06.429
but I understand it was a plot point to get to

00:52:06.429 --> 00:52:08.269
them all sitting down and talking because that

00:52:08.269 --> 00:52:13.119
is. another real housewives trope yeah um they

00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:16.760
had to they get the group together right some

00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:19.460
one of the girls says anyone that joins mom talk

00:52:19.460 --> 00:52:22.179
at this point is just clout chasing and my question

00:52:22.179 --> 00:52:26.119
is is that not like the whole you are all clout

00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:29.780
chasing every single one of you even may see

00:52:29.780 --> 00:52:34.280
my favorite girl it is a clout you want clout

00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:39.170
because mama you Want that check. And that's

00:52:39.170 --> 00:52:43.789
OK. No one is mad at you. No one's mad at you.

00:52:43.829 --> 00:52:47.250
And I understand that you're like defending your

00:52:47.250 --> 00:52:51.110
position. Sure. And you don't want you don't

00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:53.630
want your money to be diluted or your followers

00:52:53.630 --> 00:52:56.750
or whatever to be diluted by too many people

00:52:56.750 --> 00:52:59.530
coming in and, you know, people favoring them.

00:52:59.610 --> 00:53:02.530
Yeah. But you don't have to call them cloud chasers

00:53:02.530 --> 00:53:04.929
because that's because divas over you and kettle

00:53:04.929 --> 00:53:11.099
baby. Um, we cut to Taylor's mom showing up at

00:53:11.099 --> 00:53:14.980
Taylor's house with ever true is her child's

00:53:14.980 --> 00:53:20.480
name. Yeah. Which is fine. Like fine. Taylor's

00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.619
mom has had a lot of work done. My thing is like,

00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.880
yes, she got a lot of work done. And why does

00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:31.909
the work make her look like Taylor? Let me tell

00:53:31.909 --> 00:53:34.429
you, because this is something I'm going to talk

00:53:34.429 --> 00:53:37.389
about in episode two in just a couple minutes

00:53:37.389 --> 00:53:41.769
where I have a theory about this. But I think,

00:53:41.849 --> 00:53:45.489
yeah, OK, we'll get into it in a minute. I'm

00:53:45.489 --> 00:53:49.730
not interested in Taylor's mom's Mormon family

00:53:49.730 --> 00:53:53.500
values bullshit. I am not interested because

00:53:53.500 --> 00:53:56.559
let me tell you where this stems from is I grew

00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.960
up in the church. I've seen a million separations,

00:53:59.960 --> 00:54:02.380
breakups, divorces go down just like this, where

00:54:02.380 --> 00:54:07.340
the family does every the family of the woman

00:54:07.340 --> 00:54:09.940
does everything in their power to keep the man

00:54:09.940 --> 00:54:12.639
and the woman together because it's shameful

00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.380
to be divorced. It's shameful to be a single

00:54:14.380 --> 00:54:16.960
mother. It's sick. Let me tell you right now,

00:54:17.019 --> 00:54:22.800
it is sick. It reminded me of season one of Salt

00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.900
Lake City. Heather Gay saying, yes, you should

00:54:25.900 --> 00:54:28.019
stay in your toxic marriage because that's what

00:54:28.019 --> 00:54:31.280
she was raised to believe. It is like a brainwashing

00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:34.760
thing. It is. It's actually like sad for me to

00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:38.239
see because people would rather struggle. Right.

00:54:38.380 --> 00:54:41.219
And that that's hard for me to come to terms

00:54:41.219 --> 00:54:44.500
with. Yes. I would be a single mom every day

00:54:44.500 --> 00:54:48.269
over. being miserable with a man. Being miserable,

00:54:48.369 --> 00:54:51.010
but, like, I would take it one step further.

00:54:52.110 --> 00:54:55.650
Before I would, like, I would ask, I think it's

00:54:55.650 --> 00:54:57.170
fine to ask the question, like, are you sure,

00:54:57.329 --> 00:55:00.309
like, you're done? And that's a fine question

00:55:00.309 --> 00:55:02.170
to ask. That's the reason there are separation

00:55:02.170 --> 00:55:04.969
laws in so many states. Yes. You have to be separated,

00:55:05.110 --> 00:55:08.389
yeah. Because you want to be sure. To push your

00:55:08.389 --> 00:55:10.929
child to stay in a relationship in which she

00:55:10.929 --> 00:55:13.869
is miserable, you are the bad person. Yeah, your

00:55:13.869 --> 00:55:16.079
daughter? Period, full stop. you're gonna sit

00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:19.840
there to your daughter uh is episode two when

00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:23.019
they're like at Taylor's family's house I can't

00:55:23.019 --> 00:55:26.139
wait to talk about that can't wait I could not

00:55:26.139 --> 00:55:30.179
believe the way her family spoke to her anyway

00:55:30.179 --> 00:55:33.280
we'll get there Taylor wants a break from Dakota

00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:36.159
is where they land and I support that I think

00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:38.420
that's probably the smart move I'll tell you

00:55:38.969 --> 00:55:41.130
Early on in the season, especially, she kind

00:55:41.130 --> 00:55:43.269
of flips back and forth. I've already seen her

00:55:43.269 --> 00:55:47.590
flip twice. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So Jen and Zach

00:55:47.590 --> 00:55:50.550
go to ketamine therapy. Which I support, by the

00:55:50.550 --> 00:55:52.030
way. I want them to go to ketamine therapy. I

00:55:52.030 --> 00:55:54.429
think it was a smart decision for them to do

00:55:54.429 --> 00:56:00.010
that. I wish Zach was more into it. Can I tell

00:56:00.010 --> 00:56:03.610
you something? Hmm. I don't believe Zach actually

00:56:03.610 --> 00:56:07.750
did it. Really? Yes. Even with the needle in

00:56:07.750 --> 00:56:10.940
his arm? I don't believe he did it because of

00:56:10.940 --> 00:56:13.800
the way he acted. I believe that Jin did it.

00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:15.860
It did give like fake high. Where it was like,

00:56:15.940 --> 00:56:19.760
oh, how long were we out? Shut up. I believe

00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:23.119
that he had done it. Prior to this episode, I

00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.699
do not believe that he did it on camera, which

00:56:25.699 --> 00:56:27.900
is fine. If you don't want to do it on camera,

00:56:28.019 --> 00:56:30.219
that's fine. But don't do the whole song and

00:56:30.219 --> 00:56:33.980
dance for me, please. Don't lie. Don't lie. And

00:56:33.980 --> 00:56:37.519
I, yeah, he kind of did like the whole fake high

00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:41.320
thing. And then it was like gone in an instant.

00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:44.980
It was weird. It was weird. Jen decides that

00:56:44.980 --> 00:56:47.800
Zach needs to meet with some of the girls to

00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:52.029
clear the air or whatever the case may be. So

00:56:52.029 --> 00:56:56.329
we cut back to Taylor's house. Dakota's moving

00:56:56.329 --> 00:57:02.409
out. And it goes to an interview with him. This

00:57:02.409 --> 00:57:05.409
is the moment I realize I like him better in

00:57:05.409 --> 00:57:09.389
a hat. There are a lot of men out there who look

00:57:09.389 --> 00:57:12.829
far better with a hat on. And this was hard for

00:57:12.829 --> 00:57:15.170
me because I spent the entire first season being

00:57:15.170 --> 00:57:17.110
like, oh, my God, stay together. He's so hot.

00:57:17.150 --> 00:57:19.869
He's so hot. He's so hot. And now I'm like. Oh,

00:57:19.909 --> 00:57:24.389
so Dakota's moving out. Thank God. And what I

00:57:24.389 --> 00:57:27.489
what I took away from this interview, and I hope

00:57:27.489 --> 00:57:31.809
I'm not wrong, is that I will buy that he loves

00:57:31.809 --> 00:57:35.949
Taylor on some level. I think that he does. But

00:57:35.949 --> 00:57:39.409
I think it all stems from like, I want to keep

00:57:39.409 --> 00:57:42.590
the family together thing. And I don't. Maybe.

00:57:43.170 --> 00:57:45.710
And I don't like that. But what I do believe

00:57:45.710 --> 00:57:49.710
more is that he's got that dog in him. He needs.

00:57:51.130 --> 00:57:55.989
I don't know. I have no sympathy for him. He's

00:57:55.989 --> 00:57:59.889
in his 30s. He has a kid. Yeah. Fucking grow

00:57:59.889 --> 00:58:02.750
up. And that's and I think he needs to be single

00:58:02.750 --> 00:58:05.730
until he can grow up. I think Taylor and Dakota

00:58:05.730 --> 00:58:09.230
needs to last until he can grow up or forever.

00:58:09.610 --> 00:58:13.869
Anyway, we cut to Miranda's happy hour. Yeah.

00:58:16.420 --> 00:58:20.480
Demi. Demi doesn't want one more problem bleeding

00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.840
into the group for the health of the mom. Shut

00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:25.559
up. She's the villain of the season. I'll just

00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.280
tell you. She turns into an absolute demon and

00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:32.800
I can't wait for you to see it. Perfect. Jen

00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:34.460
doesn't know if she can trust anyone after Vegas

00:58:34.460 --> 00:58:38.719
because she says no one supported her when she

00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:41.840
was going through her stuff with Zach. And have

00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:45.360
you seen the Halloween party yet? I've seen the

00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:47.599
first half of it because like the second episode

00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:51.239
cuts off at the halfway through. And this is

00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:55.119
where I start. I started to be on Jen's side

00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:56.579
a little bit where I'm like, oh, that sucks.

00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:58.820
Like everyone knows what that feels like to be

00:58:58.820 --> 00:59:01.380
going through something and like, yeah. And feel

00:59:01.380 --> 00:59:03.480
like you don't have the support of your friends

00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:06.019
on top of going through it with your husband.

00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:08.800
That's hard. But just you wait, ladies and gentlemen,

00:59:08.860 --> 00:59:12.219
just you wait. So Miranda and Taylor decide to

00:59:12.219 --> 00:59:15.389
have. Their conversation with the entire group,

00:59:15.449 --> 00:59:17.650
of course, because how are you going to drive

00:59:17.650 --> 00:59:22.949
a plot? Right, right, right, right. And and that's

00:59:22.949 --> 00:59:25.590
where the episode ends. And the last thing I

00:59:25.590 --> 00:59:28.050
wrote was, I think I'm a fan of Miranda. Tell

00:59:28.050 --> 00:59:31.530
me if I'm wrong about this. I like her, too.

00:59:31.730 --> 00:59:35.409
OK, I think. OK, so like I'm coming from obviously

00:59:35.409 --> 00:59:37.170
a different perspective because I've seen the

00:59:37.170 --> 00:59:42.010
whole thing. I wish she spoke up. More like I

00:59:42.010 --> 00:59:44.110
wish she stood on business a little bit more

00:59:44.110 --> 00:59:46.969
than she does, because I feel like she's kind

00:59:46.969 --> 00:59:51.210
of a background character for most of it. Does

00:59:51.210 --> 00:59:55.550
that ever change? No. OK, like what you see from

00:59:55.550 --> 00:59:57.489
her in the first episode is the most you see

00:59:57.489 --> 01:00:00.150
of her. It brings us to episode two where we

01:00:00.150 --> 01:00:02.929
pick up where we left off at Miranda's happy

01:00:02.929 --> 01:00:07.219
hour. yeah okay let's get into it i feel like

01:00:07.219 --> 01:00:10.719
miranda's not being 100 honest about yeah i think

01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:14.619
that i think she's not being honest and i think

01:00:14.619 --> 01:00:19.019
taylor is doing her a service by not just airing

01:00:19.019 --> 01:00:23.719
everything out i agree and i appreciate and resent

01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:27.860
it at the same time because i think In these

01:00:27.860 --> 01:00:30.539
situations, you gotta be 100 % real about it.

01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:33.840
Just be real. Yeah. But I also get that, like,

01:00:33.860 --> 01:00:35.699
in these scenarios, it's like, you don't want

01:00:35.699 --> 01:00:40.039
to do that. And it's also awkward because Taylor

01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:44.559
was the beginning of the end of Miranda's marriage.

01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:51.159
Yes. And so it's like, she doesn't want to ruin

01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:55.400
her marriage and then also ruin her... TV career

01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:57.460
and all of that, because I don't think she has

01:00:57.460 --> 01:01:01.639
a vendetta against Miranda. No. So I think I

01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:03.119
also think there's a loyalty there because they

01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:06.340
did used to be like best friends. Yeah. And they

01:01:06.340 --> 01:01:11.079
were fucking. But anyway, I think so. You did

01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:14.820
they talk about Chase at this point at all? They

01:01:14.820 --> 01:01:17.739
talked about how Taylor goes up to Chase, Miranda's

01:01:17.739 --> 01:01:20.960
ex -husband, and said at the gym and says, I

01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:23.309
had a sex dream about you. And he said. I think

01:01:23.309 --> 01:01:28.530
I have feelings for you. Yeah. And that is the

01:01:28.530 --> 01:01:30.989
most Utah thing I've ever heard in my entire

01:01:30.989 --> 01:01:33.809
life. He said, let me make that dream a reality,

01:01:34.030 --> 01:01:36.510
which is crazy because I think they were already

01:01:36.510 --> 01:01:40.769
fucking. But like Taylor was also like, oh, no,

01:01:40.849 --> 01:01:44.150
no, no, no. Right. Like I'm friends with your

01:01:44.150 --> 01:01:48.289
wife type of thing. Like, OK, so I do think it's

01:01:48.289 --> 01:01:50.670
inappropriate to go up to your best friend's.

01:01:51.529 --> 01:01:55.030
and say, I had a sex dream about you. Is it inappropriate

01:01:55.030 --> 01:01:58.949
if you've been doing it, though? But I'm saying

01:01:58.949 --> 01:02:01.150
that's what makes me think they're fucking. That's

01:02:01.150 --> 01:02:03.230
the only reason Taylor would feel like it's an

01:02:03.230 --> 01:02:05.809
okay thing to say. Oh, hang on a second. I believe

01:02:05.809 --> 01:02:08.429
Taylor 100 % would say that to anyone in real

01:02:08.429 --> 01:02:11.210
life. It's just the vibe I get from her. I don't

01:02:11.210 --> 01:02:16.530
think she would go up to Demi's husband and say,

01:02:16.650 --> 01:02:19.130
I had a sex dream about you. Can I say something?

01:02:19.389 --> 01:02:22.739
You think she would? I would to Timmy's husband.

01:02:23.019 --> 01:02:25.699
Well, yeah, he's hot. That was kind of a... To

01:02:25.699 --> 01:02:30.840
Jesse's husband. I don't think she would do that

01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:34.380
unless they were already in that type of relationship.

01:02:35.869 --> 01:02:38.650
I don't know. I do think Taylor tends to speak

01:02:38.650 --> 01:02:41.469
her mind. But to just go up to your best friend's

01:02:41.469 --> 01:02:44.789
husband. That's fair. Like, there's no way that

01:02:44.789 --> 01:02:48.050
they weren't fucking. There's no way. But what

01:02:48.050 --> 01:02:51.730
I can also tell you is that Taylor owned up to

01:02:51.730 --> 01:02:55.030
being an asshole. That's what I respected about

01:02:55.030 --> 01:02:58.690
her the most this season is that she's kind of

01:02:58.690 --> 01:03:02.469
owning her shit. Yes. Like when she, you haven't

01:03:02.469 --> 01:03:04.030
gotten to a part where she doesn't really own

01:03:04.030 --> 01:03:06.710
her shit. But for the most part, she really is

01:03:06.710 --> 01:03:10.989
like, even with Dakota, you'll see later on she

01:03:10.989 --> 01:03:14.849
gets to a point where she's very much like, he

01:03:14.849 --> 01:03:17.630
triggers me. Every time I look at him, I think

01:03:17.630 --> 01:03:20.050
about when he cheated and it triggers me. And

01:03:20.050 --> 01:03:22.550
that is so self -aware of her. Right. Like that

01:03:22.550 --> 01:03:28.139
is. a very mature thing to say I know that I'm

01:03:28.139 --> 01:03:31.199
not being rational yes that like and I really

01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:33.840
appreciated that we don't see that a lot and

01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:36.940
what what I thought was very cool is she actually

01:03:36.940 --> 01:03:40.980
said I was also a villain here and like what

01:03:40.980 --> 01:03:43.920
the other girls aren't seeing is I was a villain

01:03:44.909 --> 01:03:47.630
And they are being really hard on Miranda. And

01:03:47.630 --> 01:03:49.389
I don't think that's fair to her. She said that.

01:03:49.409 --> 01:03:51.269
And I thought that was very cool of her. I thought

01:03:51.269 --> 01:03:53.550
they were almost like hazing her, especially

01:03:53.550 --> 01:03:58.769
Michaela. Michaela went off the fucking rails.

01:03:59.230 --> 01:04:02.130
And I did not think she needed to. I will say,

01:04:02.170 --> 01:04:04.050
I think later on in the season, she might have

01:04:04.050 --> 01:04:06.469
apologized for that, for saying like she went

01:04:06.469 --> 01:04:10.369
a little too hard on Miranda. But like, whoa.

01:04:11.210 --> 01:04:16.010
Whoa. Was that uncalled for? Yes, 100%. The girls

01:04:16.010 --> 01:04:18.909
go shopping for Halloween and Stagecoach, and

01:04:18.909 --> 01:04:21.090
all I wrote here was that Jessie and Layla are

01:04:21.090 --> 01:04:23.610
so goddamn pretty. They are. They are beautiful.

01:04:24.630 --> 01:04:27.610
They do Layla dirty on this season, too. Like,

01:04:27.670 --> 01:04:30.929
they're showing her extension tracks. They're

01:04:30.929 --> 01:04:33.230
showing her, like, the producers should have

01:04:33.230 --> 01:04:34.989
stepped in and, like, fixed her up situation.

01:04:35.010 --> 01:04:36.710
That's mean. I don't like that. They do her so

01:04:36.710 --> 01:04:40.000
dirty. She is stunning, gorgeous, beautiful.

01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:44.679
Yes. Um, and so is Jesse. Yeah. Also, obviously

01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.139
Jesse's hair is always going to look good. Cause

01:04:47.139 --> 01:04:48.659
she's like a hairstylist, right? Yeah. That's

01:04:48.659 --> 01:04:52.519
her thing. Okay. Um, and she, but my God, does

01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:56.219
it always look good? Yes. Like so amazing. Yes.

01:04:56.219 --> 01:04:59.719
Love, love, love. The guys go fly fishing. Dakota

01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.780
has a hat back on. Thank God. Um, I find out

01:05:03.780 --> 01:05:07.420
here that Demi's husband is 47 and high. I, Really

01:05:07.420 --> 01:05:11.599
love that. We find out that Taylor's mom invited

01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:15.500
Dakota to a cookout. I could have done without

01:05:15.500 --> 01:05:18.000
the fly fishing. I didn't need that. I don't

01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:22.059
really know why they did it except for the conversation

01:05:22.059 --> 01:05:24.719
with Zach. I think that was the whole point.

01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:26.599
It was a plot driver to get the guys together.

01:05:26.980 --> 01:05:29.260
Yeah. Where Zach could admit he was an asshole

01:05:29.260 --> 01:05:31.900
about the Chippendales thing. Okay. Which is

01:05:31.900 --> 01:05:33.880
going to rear its ugly head again in a minute.

01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:37.710
Yeah, because he didn't. He didn't actually mean

01:05:37.710 --> 01:05:43.610
that, did he? What I'll buy is that he meant

01:05:43.610 --> 01:05:46.590
it if he wasn't ever going to have to deal with

01:05:46.590 --> 01:05:49.550
it again. And here's here's the God's honest

01:05:49.550 --> 01:05:52.469
truth. There's a reason for the saying what happens

01:05:52.469 --> 01:05:55.570
in Vegas stays in Vegas, because I I have been

01:05:55.570 --> 01:05:59.769
to these Chippendales, these Thunderdown undershows

01:05:59.769 --> 01:06:03.250
in Vegas where you go. And it's a bunch of married

01:06:03.250 --> 01:06:09.510
women who. just need a thrill and that's fine

01:06:09.510 --> 01:06:13.429
and it's it's designed for bachelorette parties

01:06:13.429 --> 01:06:16.989
is all it is yeah and yeah none of it's real

01:06:16.989 --> 01:06:20.210
none of it is substantive and it's like oh my

01:06:20.210 --> 01:06:21.889
god that was so much fun it's the same thing

01:06:21.889 --> 01:06:24.769
as going to a strip club I think it's fine if

01:06:24.769 --> 01:06:26.829
you want to go but I also think it's fine if

01:06:26.829 --> 01:06:28.929
you have a boundary in your marriage where it's

01:06:28.929 --> 01:06:31.230
like hey I'm not entirely comfortable with you

01:06:31.230 --> 01:06:35.420
going where I do have a problem is Zach telling

01:06:35.420 --> 01:06:37.920
jen that he doesn't love her anymore over it

01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:40.500
i think that's very problematic because i think

01:06:40.500 --> 01:06:45.880
that i also maybe we need to unpack that i also

01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:51.559
just get to a point where He is like in general

01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:57.219
terms, he is expecting her to be so committed

01:06:57.219 --> 01:07:00.420
to their marriage, to following these rules that

01:07:00.420 --> 01:07:02.440
he's set for her. To following him to Arizona,

01:07:02.739 --> 01:07:06.199
to following him to. Yeah. Yes. Yes. But he does

01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:10.119
not subscribe to the same way of thinking. Do

01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:13.489
you want to know what that stems from? His narcissism.

01:07:13.530 --> 01:07:16.889
The church. Yeah, well, yeah, the misogyny of

01:07:16.889 --> 01:07:20.130
it all, of you need me because I am your man

01:07:20.130 --> 01:07:23.989
situation. And I get it. I do. They're religious,

01:07:24.110 --> 01:07:30.969
but it's like, girl, stand up. Moving on. I also

01:07:30.969 --> 01:07:33.369
asked, who is the derpy guy at the end of this

01:07:33.369 --> 01:07:35.150
scene? Because I didn't know who the fourth husband

01:07:35.150 --> 01:07:38.710
was. Jesse's husband? We find out it's Jesse's

01:07:38.710 --> 01:07:44.099
husband. you're gonna find out this season this

01:07:44.099 --> 01:07:46.159
is not a spoiler at all you could have just looked

01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:50.139
this up but jesse and her husband are rich without

01:07:50.139 --> 01:07:54.340
influencing without hulu so this is a common

01:07:54.340 --> 01:08:00.300
thing in salt lake city like there's real money

01:08:00.300 --> 01:08:05.159
there like there's real money so They're they're

01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:07.360
very rich anyway. And I love that for them. I

01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:11.099
guess a lot of it is Jesse's hair care. It's

01:08:11.099 --> 01:08:13.860
like not just a salon. She also makes products.

01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:18.800
Do you want to know who else does that is? Angie,

01:08:18.859 --> 01:08:21.020
Angie Katzen Davis on Real Housewives of Salt

01:08:21.020 --> 01:08:25.300
Lake City, who owns, I think, two or three salons.

01:08:25.300 --> 01:08:27.680
But then they also franchise out the Paul Mitchell

01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:31.479
schools. They also have lines of salon products.

01:08:31.579 --> 01:08:35.500
They also like and they are. Wealthy. Yeah, I

01:08:35.500 --> 01:08:39.439
think you make money off of salon lines. Yes.

01:08:39.460 --> 01:08:42.899
Like shampoo, conditioner. Oh, yeah. That type

01:08:42.899 --> 01:08:47.140
of shit. Because the overhead is amazing. Yeah,

01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:47.979
it costs nothing to make. And the profit margins

01:08:47.979 --> 01:08:50.899
are perfect. It costs nothing to make and people

01:08:50.899 --> 01:08:53.569
will... pay an arm and a leg for their hair to

01:08:53.569 --> 01:08:56.090
be shiny that and then you have like built -in

01:08:56.090 --> 01:08:58.430
like loyalty where it's like oh you come to my

01:08:58.430 --> 01:09:01.029
salon like this you know you like this part of

01:09:01.029 --> 01:09:03.550
it and like yeah and it's probably good stuff

01:09:03.550 --> 01:09:05.470
like i won't take that away from them yeah every

01:09:05.470 --> 01:09:07.569
time i've ever bought product from any salon

01:09:07.569 --> 01:09:11.710
it's been amazing so there's money there yeah

01:09:11.710 --> 01:09:15.609
yeah so demi and jesse had to meet zach um they

01:09:15.609 --> 01:09:18.340
all go meet up at a coffee shop which Fun fact

01:09:18.340 --> 01:09:20.060
is, you know that coffee, drinking hot coffee

01:09:20.060 --> 01:09:21.880
is not acceptable in the Mormon religion. Right,

01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:27.939
not Mormon. But ketamine is a gray area. I always

01:09:27.939 --> 01:09:31.460
thought even like the soda versus coffee thing

01:09:31.460 --> 01:09:33.319
is so silly. It's so wild. Why are you allowed

01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:36.359
to drink soda with a higher caffeine content

01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:39.060
than coffee? But you're not a, I don't know,

01:09:39.140 --> 01:09:42.250
whatever. Joseph Smith, you're confusing. It's

01:09:42.250 --> 01:09:44.329
all confusing. But this is where we start to

01:09:44.329 --> 01:09:46.350
get holes poked in the story, because Zach brings

01:09:46.350 --> 01:09:48.369
out the thing about Jen saying that the girls

01:09:48.369 --> 01:09:51.109
weren't there for her. But it turns out the girls

01:09:51.109 --> 01:09:54.170
did nothing but reach out to her. And Jen didn't

01:09:54.170 --> 01:09:58.189
respond. Yeah. But here's what I appreciate about

01:09:58.189 --> 01:10:02.189
Zach, where he stayed on his wife's side. He

01:10:02.189 --> 01:10:06.619
stood 10 tones down for Jen in that. meeting

01:10:06.619 --> 01:10:12.420
that they had can i just say how strange it is

01:10:12.420 --> 01:10:15.439
the idea of your husband meeting with your friends

01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:19.020
to talk about you and you're not I thought that

01:10:19.020 --> 01:10:21.000
was as dumb as the day is long. I thought it

01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:24.180
was weird. I wouldn't want Kenny to meet up with

01:10:24.180 --> 01:10:26.819
my friends without me to talk about me. I think

01:10:26.819 --> 01:10:28.880
that's weird. I think she thought they weren't

01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:31.260
going to talk about her, though. I truly believe

01:10:31.260 --> 01:10:35.239
that Jen said that Zach was going to apologize

01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:38.079
for being an asshole. And that's what the conversation

01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:40.560
was going to end. That's right. That he was just

01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:43.220
because he was mean to the girls, too. Yeah,

01:10:43.220 --> 01:10:45.960
that's true. And you know what? I did like that

01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:49.039
he owned up to everything and he said he was

01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:53.399
sorry. I didn't like the way the girls acted,

01:10:53.500 --> 01:10:55.760
the way the girls were like, your wife is so

01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:58.619
fake. Your wife, your wife, your wife. What?

01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:01.420
Like, I just thought that was so strange. But

01:11:01.420 --> 01:11:03.859
when you're confronted with what you've been

01:11:03.859 --> 01:11:08.210
told and you're like. No, that's a lie. No, they

01:11:08.210 --> 01:11:10.810
definitely did have a right to be like, oh, don't

01:11:10.810 --> 01:11:12.689
say I wasn't there for her because I did try

01:11:12.689 --> 01:11:14.729
to be there for her and she didn't answer me.

01:11:14.850 --> 01:11:17.010
But when Zach found this out, he said all the

01:11:17.010 --> 01:11:19.250
right things. He said, I don't know anything

01:11:19.250 --> 01:11:21.369
about that. I'm going to be in my wife's side.

01:11:21.489 --> 01:11:24.090
That's all I needed him to say. Yeah. And I was

01:11:24.090 --> 01:11:26.810
fine with that. Yeah, I did like the way he handled

01:11:26.810 --> 01:11:29.109
that. I just thought it was a weird position

01:11:29.109 --> 01:11:33.899
to put your husband in. I feel like if... Jen

01:11:33.899 --> 01:11:36.039
were there she could have just hashed it out

01:11:36.039 --> 01:11:38.979
right there because I don't think it's I don't

01:11:38.979 --> 01:11:44.119
know if it's in this episode where Jen like meets

01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:47.140
up with Jesse and Demi and talks about it they

01:11:47.140 --> 01:11:50.520
they both got to meet with Jesse and Demi later

01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:54.399
in this episode okay yeah because I just feel

01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:56.239
like they could have done that all at once they

01:11:56.239 --> 01:11:58.859
should have Like they should have gotten a table

01:11:58.859 --> 01:12:01.979
for four. Yes. And it was weird. I didn't. I

01:12:01.979 --> 01:12:04.819
didn't like that this happened because it was

01:12:04.819 --> 01:12:08.340
pointless. Other. I think it was a plot driver

01:12:08.340 --> 01:12:12.060
to Jen's a liar. Jen's a fucking liar. Yeah.

01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:16.779
And she did lie like that. There is no beating

01:12:16.779 --> 01:12:19.140
around the bush. She did lie about the girls

01:12:19.140 --> 01:12:24.579
not being there for her. I do think maybe she

01:12:24.579 --> 01:12:29.109
wasn't. I feel like after that situation, I would

01:12:29.109 --> 01:12:32.829
have been embarrassed. I would have been embarrassed

01:12:32.829 --> 01:12:36.090
that my husband acted like that. And I wouldn't,

01:12:36.090 --> 01:12:38.470
I don't, I don't know what I would have done,

01:12:38.569 --> 01:12:41.310
but I kind of understand where she came from.

01:12:41.529 --> 01:12:47.829
But we cut to the cookout. Oh, I cannot. So like,

01:12:47.890 --> 01:12:51.109
I just have to get on my high horse here. If

01:12:51.109 --> 01:12:56.579
my family ever spoke to me the way, Taylor's

01:12:56.579 --> 01:13:01.500
mother and stepdad talk to her in front of Dakota.

01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:06.439
In front of anyone. And her sisters and the whole

01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:10.600
family. I would cut ties with them. Immediately.

01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:14.000
That is so inappropriate. So if you haven't seen

01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:17.979
it, Taylor's stepdad does not beat around the

01:13:17.979 --> 01:13:22.220
bush in saying, you're a whore for sleeping with

01:13:22.220 --> 01:13:27.619
Dakota. Basically, yeah. Yes. What the ever loving

01:13:27.619 --> 01:13:34.079
fuck? How is that appropriate or acceptable to

01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:37.880
say about your daughter? By the way, your stepdaughter.

01:13:38.539 --> 01:13:41.539
I also and I'm just going to say this and I will

01:13:41.539 --> 01:13:44.380
not be cutting this. I want an investigation

01:13:44.380 --> 01:13:47.060
into where this man was on January 6th because

01:13:47.060 --> 01:13:49.920
I have some theories about this man because he

01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:54.100
just has that look about him. I just hate him.

01:13:54.729 --> 01:13:58.369
I hated to see that. Before that happens, we

01:13:58.369 --> 01:14:01.630
find out that Taylor's mom is just a monster.

01:14:01.750 --> 01:14:05.850
Like, so you show up and we find out she has

01:14:05.850 --> 01:14:08.850
a pattern of continuing to be friends with people

01:14:08.850 --> 01:14:11.840
that have been. horrific to taylor to be their

01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:14.779
realtor to be their realtor to say well they've

01:14:14.779 --> 01:14:17.319
always been nice to me which i don't like that

01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:20.699
weird that is so weird that's like someone bullying

01:14:20.699 --> 01:14:23.060
jack at school and me still wanting to be friends

01:14:23.060 --> 01:14:27.739
with them yes that's weird that's not and She

01:14:27.739 --> 01:14:30.539
also says something to the effect of, oh, so

01:14:30.539 --> 01:14:31.920
you're going to this Halloween party that I'm

01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:33.920
not invited to. Why would you be invited to this

01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:36.060
Halloween party? She loves to stick her little

01:14:36.060 --> 01:14:37.680
head where it doesn't belong. You remember when

01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:39.539
she called Whitney for not coming to the baby

01:14:39.539 --> 01:14:42.560
shower last season? Yes. She has another episode

01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:46.060
even worse than that. God. Episode 10, last episode

01:14:46.060 --> 01:14:48.079
of this season. I can't wait for you to see it.

01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:52.199
It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And I feel

01:14:52.199 --> 01:14:54.779
for Taylor because like, how do you even reel

01:14:54.779 --> 01:14:57.100
that in? You don't because let me tell you what

01:14:57.100 --> 01:14:59.520
this is. This was the theory that I mentioned

01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:04.340
earlier. This screams, I have a complex and I've

01:15:04.340 --> 01:15:06.060
been in competition with my beautiful daughter

01:15:06.060 --> 01:15:09.659
for her entire existence. That is what this is.

01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:12.520
And that's a very common thing that I see a lot,

01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:17.039
especially in pretty girls. Their moms are so

01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:21.680
jealous of them, which is sick because why couldn't

01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:25.319
you just sit back and be like, wow. I made something

01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:28.319
so beautiful and perfect and I'm so proud of

01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:32.500
myself. And find that happiness in the fact that

01:15:32.500 --> 01:15:37.180
you created your daughter. But instead you decide

01:15:37.180 --> 01:15:40.960
to turn that on its head and be jealous and even

01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:45.300
vindictive towards your daughter is so strange.

01:15:45.739 --> 01:15:48.819
Anyway. Dakota shows up and it's as awkward as

01:15:48.819 --> 01:15:51.359
the day is long. They all sit down at the table.

01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:54.619
Taylor's brother is not unattractive until he

01:15:54.619 --> 01:15:56.319
opens his mouth. I'm just going to say that.

01:15:56.479 --> 01:15:59.720
I didn't think he was cute, but here we are.

01:16:00.180 --> 01:16:03.319
Yeah, I'm not going to yuck your yum. Appreciate

01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:06.079
it. But Taylor is just not thrilled to be there.

01:16:06.260 --> 01:16:08.960
And she's got her hood up. She's like sitting

01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:12.039
in the corner and like and then Taylor's mom

01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:15.199
goes, why are you so closed off? Shut up. Shut

01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:19.199
up. Just what do you think? You invite her ex

01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:23.359
kind of situation to your house. Yeah. That's

01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:27.180
so strange. Can you imagine if your parents hosted

01:16:27.180 --> 01:16:30.119
a cookout and invited your ex to come? Like,

01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:34.140
I don't get that. I would leave and that would

01:16:34.140 --> 01:16:36.340
be the last time I spoke to my family. I'm telling

01:16:36.340 --> 01:16:38.539
you right now. They were weird for inviting Dakota.

01:16:38.859 --> 01:16:40.680
They're weird for the way they talk to Taylor.

01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:44.319
The mom's weird for wanting to look like Taylor,

01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:46.880
and the stepdad's weird for thinking Taylor's

01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:50.319
a whore. Yes. They're all weird. The only one

01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:52.979
of them that I truly respect on a deep level

01:16:52.979 --> 01:16:56.100
is Taylor's sister. I agree, because she said,

01:16:56.340 --> 01:16:58.079
listen, if it's meant to be, it's meant to be.

01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:01.119
If it's not, it's not. She picked up the baby,

01:17:01.260 --> 01:17:03.720
so the baby didn't have to be there for the fallout.

01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:08.180
Right. I think she's the only one that is genuinely...

01:17:08.970 --> 01:17:12.310
Just team Taylor. Yes. She's not she doesn't

01:17:12.310 --> 01:17:15.130
have her own side of the story that she thinks

01:17:15.130 --> 01:17:17.850
she should sell. She doesn't like her mom does.

01:17:18.090 --> 01:17:22.090
She doesn't have she's not competing with Taylor

01:17:22.090 --> 01:17:25.529
in any sense of the word. She's just there for

01:17:25.529 --> 01:17:28.390
her. I also feel like she's not gunning to be

01:17:28.390 --> 01:17:30.930
on reality television. I think she's not fighting

01:17:30.930 --> 01:17:33.409
for that spot. Right. And I think she's secure

01:17:33.409 --> 01:17:35.210
in herself. And I think that's what we're seeing

01:17:35.210 --> 01:17:38.199
play out here is that. Right. That's why she's

01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:40.600
not an ass. Love her or hate her. She is just

01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:43.600
being there for her sister. Right. And she's

01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:47.399
OK with that being her personality on TV because

01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:50.439
she's not a member of the show. Taylor's mom

01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:54.739
does not understand that. We go to Jen's house.

01:17:55.760 --> 01:18:01.600
Jen says in her interview. That she believes

01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:03.300
that the resentment that the girls have towards

01:18:03.300 --> 01:18:05.520
her is because of Zach. And then Zach walks in

01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:09.479
and explains, no, no. The reason that the girls

01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:11.180
have resentment towards me is because of you.

01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:15.979
Right. And you can tell Jen felt uncomfortable

01:18:15.979 --> 01:18:20.300
in the fact that like Zach, she got aired out

01:18:20.300 --> 01:18:22.560
to her own husband. Like you can tell that that

01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:26.930
is like infringing on her. But it's like you're

01:18:26.930 --> 01:18:29.770
the one who set up that whole mess. Like you're

01:18:29.770 --> 01:18:32.189
the one who set up him meeting with just your

01:18:32.189 --> 01:18:35.449
friends. So like I could have seen that coming

01:18:35.449 --> 01:18:39.909
from a mile away. Then I don't know that there

01:18:39.909 --> 01:18:41.609
wasn't a lot there. They decide that they're

01:18:41.609 --> 01:18:43.869
all going to meet together again. We cut to Jesse's

01:18:43.869 --> 01:18:46.449
house where Christ almighty, they decide they're

01:18:46.449 --> 01:18:49.869
going to do the Chippendales thing again. I don't

01:18:49.869 --> 01:18:53.800
want to ruin it for you. There's tea to that

01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.279
that you don't know yet that when you find out,

01:18:56.300 --> 01:18:59.939
you're like, wait, what? Like. Does it come in

01:18:59.939 --> 01:19:03.359
the next episode? I hope so. Because I don't

01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:06.479
want to ruin it for you. Then Whitney and her

01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:08.680
husband are out running around buying pajamas.

01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:11.140
This was a non scene to remind us that Whitney

01:19:11.140 --> 01:19:15.439
is still on the show. I just I and I hope that

01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:17.140
I end up being wrong about Whitney because I

01:19:17.140 --> 01:19:20.630
feel like I'm being really mean to her. I'm not

01:19:20.630 --> 01:19:22.630
interested in her story. I'm not interested in

01:19:22.630 --> 01:19:25.649
her at all. I think she is so boring. And she,

01:19:25.710 --> 01:19:30.689
when she's not boring, she's giving catty. She's

01:19:30.689 --> 01:19:34.810
giving like angry almost. I don't know. I've

01:19:34.810 --> 01:19:38.949
never really. And once I hear, once you hear

01:19:38.949 --> 01:19:42.869
Michaela's stance on Whitney and her individual

01:19:42.869 --> 01:19:48.149
problem with Whitney. It made me it like validated

01:19:48.149 --> 01:19:51.149
me and not liking her. Like I'm standing behind.

01:19:52.329 --> 01:19:54.789
I'm standing behind her in that because the way

01:19:54.789 --> 01:19:57.890
she treated her was not Michaela. I mean, the

01:19:57.890 --> 01:20:01.489
way she treated Michaela was not what you would

01:20:01.489 --> 01:20:03.829
expect from a friend ever because they were like

01:20:03.829 --> 01:20:08.369
actual friends. So anyway. Anyway, we're almost

01:20:08.369 --> 01:20:10.710
at the end, friends. Yeah, we're almost there.

01:20:11.609 --> 01:20:13.569
We have another conversation with Zach and the

01:20:13.569 --> 01:20:17.789
girls and Jen is there and Jen is outed for being

01:20:17.789 --> 01:20:21.149
a rotten liar and she's upset and she's questioning

01:20:21.149 --> 01:20:25.829
the girl's allegiance. And I was just like, I

01:20:25.829 --> 01:20:27.930
saw what was happening because we've had friends

01:20:27.930 --> 01:20:29.989
do this before where like they get confronted

01:20:29.989 --> 01:20:31.750
with something and then they just start talking

01:20:31.750 --> 01:20:33.229
and talking and talking and talking and talking

01:20:33.229 --> 01:20:35.310
and talking and they won't let anyone get a word

01:20:35.310 --> 01:20:37.829
in edgewise. And this is where you're like, oh.

01:20:38.489 --> 01:20:40.630
You don't want us to talk because you don't know

01:20:40.630 --> 01:20:43.689
what you've told one person or the other or worse.

01:20:43.810 --> 01:20:45.670
You do know what you told one person or the other

01:20:45.670 --> 01:20:47.829
and you don't want it to come out. Yeah. Yes.

01:20:47.890 --> 01:20:53.210
I do feel like Jen was in a corner and like she

01:20:53.210 --> 01:20:56.130
didn't know how to get out. Yes. And so she was

01:20:56.130 --> 01:21:00.029
just trying to find a way out of that situation

01:21:00.029 --> 01:21:02.470
without looking like a horrible villain. Yes.

01:21:02.829 --> 01:21:05.819
And. I don't know that she really accomplished

01:21:05.819 --> 01:21:08.560
that. She didn't. So Jen gets called out for

01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:12.640
the you were never there for me comment. And

01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:15.600
the girls go, we have text. We can show you where

01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:18.920
we texted you. And it comes out. Well, you didn't

01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:21.899
text us back for like four or five days. If Jen

01:21:21.899 --> 01:21:24.359
would, because this is what I will buy was happening.

01:21:24.539 --> 01:21:28.300
I believe Jen was incredibly depressed. She was

01:21:28.300 --> 01:21:31.659
in a dark place. And when you get deeper into

01:21:31.659 --> 01:21:34.720
the season. You almost get confirmation of that

01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:37.039
without getting real confirmation of that. I

01:21:37.039 --> 01:21:40.399
think she was in a place we've all been in where

01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:43.520
she mentally could not handle talking about it.

01:21:43.539 --> 01:21:46.100
She couldn't even talk to the people who were

01:21:46.100 --> 01:21:50.600
involved. I think she just had to take that time.

01:21:52.260 --> 01:21:55.180
And you'll kind of see that happen. And if she

01:21:55.180 --> 01:21:58.659
would have just said that in this moment. Yeah.

01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:00.859
She would have been fine. I do think there might

01:22:00.859 --> 01:22:04.680
be some kind of stigma around mental health.

01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:10.319
In the church. Yeah. Yes. And so I think until

01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:13.119
she really has to come to terms with it, she

01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:16.720
didn't want to say that. I think she just like

01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:18.359
kind of froze in that moment and didn't know

01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:20.220
what to say. And I think we've all been there,

01:22:20.239 --> 01:22:24.430
too, where it's like. As someone with depression,

01:22:24.710 --> 01:22:27.090
like saying you were depressed doesn't feel like

01:22:27.090 --> 01:22:29.810
enough. Like you still feel like you're a bad

01:22:29.810 --> 01:22:32.750
person for not answering your friends. And so

01:22:32.750 --> 01:22:35.689
it's like I kind of understand where she's coming

01:22:35.689 --> 01:22:39.649
from. I do think she could have been a better

01:22:39.649 --> 01:22:43.869
friend to them in that time. And like at least

01:22:43.869 --> 01:22:47.090
said, I'm going through it. I'm sorry if I'm

01:22:47.090 --> 01:22:49.390
not replying type of thing. Like at least like

01:22:49.390 --> 01:22:53.039
communicate that. And then they gave her the

01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:57.880
perfect platform to just say that. And I don't

01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:03.260
know why she couldn't. Zach makes Jen be honest

01:23:03.260 --> 01:23:05.979
about the gambling away his medical school tuition.

01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:10.439
And I was like, ooh, she didn't like this. She

01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:13.840
was really petty about that. I don't know. I

01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:16.689
think she just. wanted to hurt Zach the way that

01:23:16.689 --> 01:23:19.470
Zach hurt her. She thought her marriage was over.

01:23:19.829 --> 01:23:21.670
She thought her marriage was over. Let's just

01:23:21.670 --> 01:23:23.970
be real about that. I think she just wanted to

01:23:23.970 --> 01:23:27.649
tear at him. And you know what? She got it in

01:23:27.649 --> 01:23:30.149
there, you know, and it was a lie and it came

01:23:30.149 --> 01:23:33.329
out. And I think she, at least she did own that.

01:23:33.430 --> 01:23:35.270
Didn't she? Where she was like, Oh yeah, well

01:23:35.270 --> 01:23:37.810
that wasn't true. Yeah. Cause Zach made her.

01:23:37.850 --> 01:23:41.909
Yeah. Yeah. Can you imagine sitting there with

01:23:41.909 --> 01:23:44.810
your husband and being like, And him being like,

01:23:44.869 --> 01:23:48.449
I wish you would just be honest about this because

01:23:48.449 --> 01:23:51.989
this is uncomfortable for everyone. Yeah, that's

01:23:51.989 --> 01:23:55.590
tough. Well, it's hard. Like if you're going

01:23:55.590 --> 01:23:57.890
through it with someone and you start being petty

01:23:57.890 --> 01:24:01.270
and mean to them and about them and then you

01:24:01.270 --> 01:24:03.569
have to own that. I can see that being like a

01:24:03.569 --> 01:24:06.770
hard pill to swallow to be like, yeah, I was

01:24:06.770 --> 01:24:11.069
being a bitch. Sorry. Christ. You know? Yes.

01:24:11.210 --> 01:24:15.670
I don't. Yeah. Okay. So we move on to that just

01:24:15.670 --> 01:24:18.710
for them to chip and Dale our girl. Well, so

01:24:18.710 --> 01:24:20.930
before that, Jen's getting ready for the Halloween

01:24:20.930 --> 01:24:24.170
party and she's obsessed with being related to

01:24:24.170 --> 01:24:27.489
Ben Affleck. You have to see how this plays out

01:24:27.489 --> 01:24:29.569
on the show. You have to see how it plays out

01:24:29.569 --> 01:24:31.949
on the show. Is it chaotic? It's a whole thing.

01:24:32.350 --> 01:24:36.670
The reason she's bringing it up is because Zach

01:24:36.670 --> 01:24:39.390
wants her to stop saying it. He says that in

01:24:39.390 --> 01:24:42.220
the show. He says. I didn't know if you had seen

01:24:42.220 --> 01:24:44.680
that yet. Yeah. He says, I wish she would stop

01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:46.960
saying that because I don't think it's true.

01:24:47.100 --> 01:24:50.220
He said he said it's been a joke for years in

01:24:50.220 --> 01:24:54.640
the family. So, yeah, I mean, I get it because

01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:57.779
she comes back and is like that. But but like

01:24:57.779 --> 01:25:00.920
it wasn't a joke when your family members were

01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:04.960
telling me that. Yes. And like I. I don't know

01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:08.100
if she's like I would see how she'd be obsessed

01:25:08.100 --> 01:25:10.380
with being related to Ben Affleck. But I think

01:25:10.380 --> 01:25:13.180
it also comes from a place of, again, like insecurity

01:25:13.180 --> 01:25:17.119
and embarrassment where she's like, I said this

01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:21.500
for so long and so loud. Yes. That like, please

01:25:21.500 --> 01:25:25.579
don't out me now. You know, like if you just

01:25:25.579 --> 01:25:27.840
stop saying it, it stops being right. If you

01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:30.920
just like never say Ben Affleck again, it will

01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.829
never come up again. But also. No one cares.

01:25:34.350 --> 01:25:38.010
No, I don't think anyone has ever cared. I just

01:25:38.010 --> 01:25:41.010
found out the other day that one of Kenny's friends

01:25:41.010 --> 01:25:45.729
is related to CeeLo Green, who I love. Right.

01:25:45.869 --> 01:25:48.909
It does not change the way I see Kenny's friend

01:25:48.909 --> 01:25:51.930
in his life. No, not at all. So they all show

01:25:51.930 --> 01:25:53.550
up to Jesse's house for the Halloween party.

01:25:54.810 --> 01:25:58.409
So Jordan's going to be Ben Affleck. Jesse looks

01:25:58.409 --> 01:26:02.360
incredible as J -Lo. Can I just say? Johnny.

01:26:02.360 --> 01:26:06.380
God damn. And they unfortunately ate Jen and

01:26:06.380 --> 01:26:09.460
Zach up. Well, I have that later in my notes

01:26:09.460 --> 01:26:12.460
that they objectively look better. Oh, yeah.

01:26:12.579 --> 01:26:15.000
Well, I think Jen tried to be this whole Jenny

01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:17.300
from the block situation. Is that what she was

01:26:17.300 --> 01:26:20.220
being? I think so. Christ. I didn't like it.

01:26:20.220 --> 01:26:23.159
It didn't play out well. Taylor shows up as Gretchen

01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:26.520
Wieners as a cat. Macy and Jacob show up as Regina

01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:32.939
and. Aaron Samuels. Michaela and Jace show up

01:26:32.939 --> 01:26:36.720
as Karen in the burn book. Demi is Fruity Pebbles

01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:40.239
and Brett is Milk. Yeah, that was a weird costume.

01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:43.460
Brett is so hot, though. Yeah, Brett is really

01:26:43.460 --> 01:26:46.159
hot. If I look like him at 47, that's all I want.

01:26:47.930 --> 01:26:50.409
Then Jen and Zach also show up as J -Lo and Ben

01:26:50.409 --> 01:26:52.710
Affleck. And that was hard. That was really,

01:26:52.729 --> 01:26:56.390
really hard. Dakota shows up as the bus that

01:26:56.390 --> 01:26:59.189
hits Regina Jordan, which I thought was actually

01:26:59.189 --> 01:27:04.890
really funny. Yeah. Then Miranda's ex -husband

01:27:04.890 --> 01:27:07.829
Chase shows up without a costume and he. He's

01:27:07.829 --> 01:27:11.930
supposed to be Justin Bieber. Did he say that?

01:27:12.069 --> 01:27:15.250
They say it like in the show at some point, but

01:27:15.250 --> 01:27:18.300
he doesn't look like Justin Bieber. Oh. I just

01:27:18.300 --> 01:27:19.979
thought he was being a douchebag and I was so

01:27:19.979 --> 01:27:24.600
into it. I was into it. Really? Oh, yeah. I think

01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:28.600
he's cute. I think he is so hot. I think he's

01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:31.600
cute. And if anything, that makes sense because

01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:35.220
Miranda is stunning. I think. I think she's so

01:27:35.220 --> 01:27:37.479
beautiful. And so Chase is kind of a match for

01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:40.220
that. I am glad that they're broken up, though.

01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:46.680
Yes. Anyway. Yeah. We get to. Chase and Dakota

01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:51.420
start there. They're talking and they're like,

01:27:51.420 --> 01:27:53.260
I don't see why we hate each other. And then

01:27:53.260 --> 01:27:58.560
Taylor confronts them. And apparently the lowest

01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:01.920
point in Chase's life was when Taylor outed everyone

01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.319
for being swingers. And I'm like, why'd you do

01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:07.020
it? Why'd you do it? Right. How is that the lowest

01:28:07.020 --> 01:28:09.699
point in your life? This kind of comes back later

01:28:09.699 --> 01:28:12.340
in the season with someone else where it's like.

01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.979
You've really never gone through anything before

01:28:15.979 --> 01:28:22.439
in your life ever. No. Like, what? And I do understand

01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:28.579
Taylor's problem with the whole thing. You didn't

01:28:28.579 --> 01:28:32.520
get to the second half of the episode, so I won't,

01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:36.460
like... But you saw most of the confrontation

01:28:36.460 --> 01:28:41.340
already. It does get worse. Good. Taylor has

01:28:41.340 --> 01:28:44.500
a problem with the fact that Dakota didn't stand

01:28:44.500 --> 01:28:47.539
up for her. I that started to come out at the

01:28:47.539 --> 01:28:50.840
end of this episode. And I fully agree with her.

01:28:50.939 --> 01:28:53.479
I do, too. And I totally see where she's coming

01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:57.840
from. I do see like the she could have just been

01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:01.699
chill at a Halloween party thing. But also Dakota

01:29:01.699 --> 01:29:03.760
is supposed to be trying to win her back. He's

01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:06.680
supposedly so in love with her. But the second

01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:08.939
he gets a chance to not be on her side, he's

01:29:08.939 --> 01:29:13.029
not on her side. I agree. We close out the episode

01:29:13.029 --> 01:29:15.350
with the guys upstairs practicing their Chippendale

01:29:15.350 --> 01:29:19.369
dance. We find out Jordan does not have an ounce

01:29:19.369 --> 01:29:23.029
of sex appeal. Or, like, maybe it's a confidence

01:29:23.029 --> 01:29:25.409
thing. I don't know. Or maybe he's just uncomfortable.

01:29:25.710 --> 01:29:27.510
I don't know. I don't know. But, like, he is

01:29:27.510 --> 01:29:30.050
so awkward about it. And, like, standing next

01:29:30.050 --> 01:29:35.250
to... Brett, who's, like, so in his sexual bath.

01:29:35.369 --> 01:29:38.470
Yes, and a literal Chippendale dancer. Yeah,

01:29:38.470 --> 01:29:41.949
right. Like, what is one to do with that? It

01:29:41.949 --> 01:29:46.050
was funny to watch. I kind of see, like, I think

01:29:46.050 --> 01:29:48.270
he and Jesse are actually really cute together.

01:29:48.409 --> 01:29:49.609
I think they're adorable together. I can see

01:29:49.609 --> 01:29:51.789
that, like, behind closed doors, they are, like,

01:29:51.810 --> 01:29:54.010
a perfect lovey -dovey match. You know what I

01:29:54.010 --> 01:29:55.869
mean? I think he just doesn't know what to do

01:29:55.869 --> 01:29:57.670
with that in real life, though, because the church.

01:29:57.869 --> 01:30:00.210
Right. Yeah, 100%. And he, like, doesn't know

01:30:00.210 --> 01:30:01.510
what's appropriate and what's not, especially

01:30:01.510 --> 01:30:05.760
when you're dealing with Jen. Yes. And then the

01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:08.000
cops show up and that's where we leave the episode.

01:30:08.180 --> 01:30:12.239
Yeah. So you get more tea the next episode about

01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:16.060
exactly what's happening, obviously. But I think

01:30:16.060 --> 01:30:22.560
I want you to notice Miranda and how she deals

01:30:22.560 --> 01:30:26.020
with Chase in the next episode, because that's

01:30:26.020 --> 01:30:28.420
like where I actually grew an opinion about Miranda

01:30:28.420 --> 01:30:30.960
and was like, oh, I like you. Interesting. And

01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:37.409
also Taylor. It does go off the rails, but has

01:30:37.409 --> 01:30:43.050
a point. And the cops showing up. Neither here

01:30:43.050 --> 01:30:47.770
nor there. So that brings us to the end of another

01:30:47.770 --> 01:30:49.630
episode of Bestie Approved. This was the longest

01:30:49.630 --> 01:30:54.409
one so far. This is a good episode. We had so

01:30:54.409 --> 01:30:57.109
much reality TV to catch up on. We did. And I

01:30:57.109 --> 01:31:01.250
think this is going to be. I like this. I think

01:31:01.250 --> 01:31:05.600
this is fun. Thank you for listening. We love

01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:07.560
you. Tell your messiest friend about us. But

01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:10.800
before we go, I want to give a shout out to my

01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:14.819
friend Jack, who, as you all know, is Emma's

01:31:14.819 --> 01:31:18.699
pride and joy of a son. And he sat with us for

01:31:18.699 --> 01:31:21.600
probably 75 percent of this episode. And he was

01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:23.739
so incredible and he was so supportive and he

01:31:23.739 --> 01:31:26.720
was such a good listener. And I appreciate him

01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:29.159
being here. So thank you so much. We love you,

01:31:29.180 --> 01:31:33.250
Jack. Do you have anything to say to the listeners?

01:31:33.630 --> 01:31:35.369
You want to say something on the podcast? You

01:31:35.369 --> 01:31:39.250
want to say something to the besties? Hello,

01:31:39.409 --> 01:31:45.789
bestie. It's me, Jack. That's perfect. And my

01:31:45.789 --> 01:31:49.270
mom is the best and I love her the best day.

01:31:50.649 --> 01:31:53.810
I love you so much. And I don't know a better

01:31:53.810 --> 01:31:55.630
way to close the episode. Tell your messiest

01:31:55.630 --> 01:31:59.680
friends about us. Follow us everywhere. Listen

01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:01.979
to us wherever you get podcasts. We love you.

01:32:02.239 --> 01:32:05.619
And thank you. See you next week.