going back to where it all started with Jolenta Greenberg

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Hi, my name is Travis, and this is Bestie Approved.

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I'm obviously still here without Emma, but I

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do have a very, very special and exciting and,

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like, just all -around cool guest host that I'm

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hanging out with today. Comedian, podcast host,

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and pop culture connoisseur Jalinta Greenberg

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is hanging out with me today, and I'm so excited.

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She's just so fucking cool, and I cannot wait

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to talk to her. So, Jalinta, tell us a little

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bit about yourself. Oh, my gosh. Thank you so

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much for having me, Travis. What about me? I'm

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a comedian. I'm a podcaster. I got my start.

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In podcasting, when my friend and I started a

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podcast for a podcast competition her work was

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hosting, and we became finalists, and we got

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to make a pilot of a show that I had a random

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idea for, which is We Lived by Self -Help Books.

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religiously two weeks at a time and then reported

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back sort of like reality show style with like

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clips from our lives. And that show ended up

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doing pretty well. It was called By the Book.

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It ran for years. We wrote a book about our experience.

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Then we shifted the show to be a bit more of

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an advice show. And then my podcast co -host

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wanted to branch out and as did I. And now I

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make podcasts about reality TV. i love it and

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that's that's me in a nutshell and it's the coolest

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thing and i want to get into the book a little

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bit because as you know i bought the book i sat

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down and like you're very right through it it's

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a good book it's an easy read if anything it's

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well so it's not too i'll get into it i will

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i promise because i i uh it's not heavy though

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but like there's a lot there like and i yeah

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yeah Yeah. But before I get into it, we ask everyone,

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what's the last song you listened to? Oh, shoot.

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What is the last song I listened to? I'm like

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racking my brain. I think it was Joyride by Kesha.

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Shut the fuck up. Do you want to know what my

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last song was? What was it? Joyride by Kesha.

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No way. I swear to God. I just had like sort

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of an itch for it. So I put it on the other day.

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that's so funny i just got my apple music replay

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and like she was my top artist for four months

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in a row and i was like that that feels correct

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yeah she's almost always my top artist i love

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her i saw her in concert over the summer and

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like jealous i never thought i'd be this person

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but like she comes out and like immediately like

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i'm like just screaming crying throwing up like

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oh yeah and i was like i don't understand what's

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happening right now i don't know it happens it

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happens all the time no happens to me too i went

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to yeah but how was the concert was it so good

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she puts on a fucking show man like i mean up

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there she's a good like showman she's a great

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singer like yeah yeah and like i think she i

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think she really knows where to lean into like

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the fandom of like i i made it out of this like

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this horrible situation and like i'm in the audience

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with the lighters up and like the tears i was

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like god this is this is cinema but uh it's uh

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i can't i couldn't get enough of it but i want

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to talk about your book for a second so you wrote

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a book with your friend christian called how

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to be fine and i bought it such a good book like

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i and i like i actually thought when i sat down

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it was gonna be like just like a silly goofy

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collection of essays like making fun of self

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-help books and like some of it kind of we do

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a little bit but like yeah but like it was a

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lot more than that and like i found a quote from

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like your section from the very beginning of

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it that like really resonated with me. And I'm

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just going to tell you, it's okay. I'm always

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two weeks behind. I'm always catching up on life.

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I've always been just, I'm always just a few

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beats behind all of life's prescribed normal

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milestones, getting to them a bit later than

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everyone else, whether it's getting comfortable,

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leaving my tissues at school, having my first

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kiss, falling in love, getting a real job. I'm

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always running behind. And like the way that

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I was like, oh, she and I are the same person.

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Like I locked in immediately because like - Oh,

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that's so great. I'm glad other people feel that

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way too. Yeah, like, and I think no one talks

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about that. So like, that was really cool. And

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then your friend Kristen sounds like a perfect

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angel. And like, I loved everything about the

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way you described her because that's how I talk

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about like Emma, my co -host and my best friend,

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Jackie. So I - I'm glad that someone else has

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people like that. Right, yeah. You're like adult

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friends. You're the person I can go to for adult

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questions. Like, how should I repaint my house?

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Who's a lawyer I could call? What kind of insurance

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do I need? What is insurance? Couldn't tell you.

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No, but Kristen could. Kristen could. And Jackie

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could. Exactly. But the cool thing I thought

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about the book, you broke it up between two sections

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of like more than two, but like it was the primary

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two were things that worked and things that didn't.

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Do you still have like one of those concepts

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that you still use today? I have a few. Yeah.

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I mean, I still stand by the like, if you. If

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you see someone like swearing by something as

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like the main cure -all or like the one thing

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you'll need to focus on to get your shit together,

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like you can, it's always fine if that doesn't

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vibe with you and that like doesn't move you

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to be your best you because those books or those

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like methods are usually bullshit when it's like,

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if you just wake up at this time or like if you

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just meditate for this amount, like the ones

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that have the like one key. if that doesn't vibe

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with you that's very normal they vibe with a

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select few and then it'll totally change their

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lives but like if it's not vibing with you it's

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fine so that's that's a key takeaway that i've

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always stuck with more on the what doesn't work

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side where it's like you know if if someone swears

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meditation is like change their whole outlook

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and it's like giving you panic attacks like then

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it gives you panic attacks you're not fucked

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up like it just doesn't work for you i think

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that's really cool like to validate that for

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other people because i think a lot of people

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walk away from like i i don't i don't know like

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the that uh you the one he talked about the girl

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wash your face uh that the girl or the woman

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that wrote that book people like take her word

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to be gospel and like i look at that and i'm

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like are you sure yeah why Yeah, washing your

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face. I don't know. I wash my face all the time

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in my life still a wreck. So yeah, like I managed

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to brush my teeth and still like feel like a

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fuck up. So yeah, but you did it. And that's

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important. And like something that pretty much

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always works where it's like to get yourself

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out of a little slump or to stop like ruminating

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on something like, like doing something kind

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for other people or like giving a little bit

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if you can, like usually does help. If you have

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the resources or the energy, you know, that's

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like something that, that I've found like is

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generally true. Sure. So that's like some good

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advice, but yeah, the good advice is pretty general

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and it's like, be nice to yourself, be nice to

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other people. Like those things are always usually

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working. It's, and that's, I think that's the

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cool thing is like, I think when you get down

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into it, the self -help industry is like, it's

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really holding on by a thread because. no one

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has the answer and like It's all pretty general.

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Like when you get down to it. Like, yeah, everything

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is just a repurposing of something else. The

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secret was how to win, how to win friends and

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influence people was like, you know, girl, wash

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your face. Like they're all the same. They're

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all about like manifest a little bit and like

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get up early and like regiment your morning.

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And it's like, yeah, it doesn't always work.

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We'll see what happens, I guess. Right. And it's

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also just like. Now that we're, I feel like so

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far in the future from when a lot of those books

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like were huge successes, like we've also seen

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the downfall of a lot of these self -proclaimed

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gurus, like Rachel Hollis's life fell apart.

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She and her husband had a whole empire about

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like rise together and then they split up and

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like. he passed away like you know and things

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weren't good and it's like you know tony robbins

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is a creep and like they're all we you know they're

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all just sales people peddling their spiel we

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love a snake oil salesman here yeah um have you

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ever done the we're not really strangers game

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no pick a number between 1 and 15 uh 12 okay

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So the whole idea is like this, it's questions

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that like you can ask to like create deeper connection.

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I actually kind of like this one. What has been

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your favorite age so far? Oh, shit. Um, what

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has been my favorite age so far? I mean, it's

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gonna sound really basic. But like, I really

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liked being 21. Being able to like, go to a bar

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or you know, I lived in California at the time

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and like go just go to BevMo and load up on like

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wholesale alcohol. Hell yeah, it was it was a

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very freeing feeling to not be using a fake ID

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to like get into places. And I just, I felt like,

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you know, the world was mine. I had a driver's

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license. license that was real and it could get

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me alcohol and i kind of enjoyed like how simple

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like it's a pretty simple pleasure that i was

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just like thought you know i've owned the world

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because fuck yeah 21 it is that's perfect legally

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buy booze I love that. I should evaluate my relationship

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with alcohol. No, it's not the conversation we're

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going to have here today because I'll just validate

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the hell out of it. I'm like, keep drinking.

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It's fine. It's fine. Just whatever. Just make

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a spritz and shut up. Before we dive into Reality

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Roundup, do you have anything on your heart that

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you want to complain about? Do I have anything

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I want to complain about on my heart? Yes, this

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is... mine and mine and Emma's favorite thing

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to do. So I, I often tell my husband, like, I

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need you to partake in my pastimes, my favorite

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pastimes, which are complaining. So I, I totally

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feel you right now. I have a lot of complaints

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for Apple keyboards and them always typing the

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wrong thing. No matter like how many times I

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confirm I'm like touching the right letter on

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my phone. It just like, I feel like it just makes

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up a whole new word. And I fucking hate it. And

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it makes me feel like I'm losing the ability

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to speak or spell. And then I'm like, I don't

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know. I don't know. I don't know who's fucking

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up. Sometimes I'm like, am I stroking out? Or

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is it just spelling? Is it just like writing

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pretzel instead of people over and over? no and

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it's like i also know that like i don't say duck

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and like i don't know how we've gotten back to

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that when i'm right right you knew how i spoke

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you used to know yeah you siri used to get me

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yeah um I have one thing to complain about and

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it's these little goddamn smart labels that I

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bought where like, I thought I was, I was going

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to like, I was in an episode where I was like,

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I'm going to, I'm going to Marie Kondo my entire

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life. I'm going to organize everything. And it's

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these like little stickers that like have a QR

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code on them. Right. I was going to say they're

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like scannable, right? Yeah. Yes. And like, there's

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an app and it's like, you scan the QR code and

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it's like, you tell it what all's in the box

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that has the QR code on it. And I did exactly

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what you were supposed to do with these things.

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And I. put everything i organized all of it it's

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the most beautiful organization system and then

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i closed the boxes i closed the app and i didn't

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think about it for a full year until i knew i

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needed something for christmas decorations so

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i pull out the app and it says you have to upgrade

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to see what's in your boxes and the way took

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to my email and ripped this company apart. And

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it's like, it's $30 a year. So it's not that,

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but it's the principle of the thing for me. It's

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the like, there's a paywall to get to like your

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own item information. Like that's crazy. And

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the way that like, so I emailed this company

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and they send me back an email saying, cause

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I said on the website, it says there's not a

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subscription required. And they said, well, access

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to like the inventory of the boxes as a premium

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feature and i was like i want you shut down this

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is like that black mirror episode they put out

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not too long ago with like um with rashida jones

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about how like you have to keep subscribing like

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keep upping your subscription to like have access

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to being alive but it's like it's so true though

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because it's like every time i get anything it's

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like uh what toyota i think was like the most

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recent one that was like if you want access to

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literally listen to the radio that's not carplay

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you must pay a premium and i'm like oh my god

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in this economy like that's crazy that's wild

00:14:10.500 --> 00:14:15.639
here we are um always upselling us even our labels

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it's so annoying but um So this episode couldn't

00:14:21.750 --> 00:14:25.230
have come at a more exciting time because one

00:14:25.230 --> 00:14:28.450
Miss Jennifer Shaw is getting out of prison on

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December 10th. So Christmas is coming early.

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So I'm setting this to release on her release

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date. And it kind of brings the whole thing full

00:14:35.750 --> 00:14:39.610
circle. So I'm excited. Are you ready to dive

00:14:39.610 --> 00:14:42.730
in? Yeah, I am. And I just, like, I'm curious

00:14:42.730 --> 00:14:45.590
to hear about Jen when she gets out. Like, she

00:14:45.590 --> 00:14:47.649
was friends with Elizabeth Holmes, and then,

00:14:47.669 --> 00:14:50.049
like, Ghislaine Maxwell got sent to the same

00:14:50.049 --> 00:14:53.210
place. Like, what? Well, and they, like, bullied

00:14:53.210 --> 00:14:55.529
the shit out of Ghislaine Maxwell, I guess. Right,

00:14:55.529 --> 00:14:57.889
yeah. Like, I know she said, like, she will not

00:14:57.889 --> 00:15:02.269
be allowed at Shawmazing Yoga. Yes. It's like,

00:15:02.509 --> 00:15:06.809
ugh. if it's i i get i get she did really bad

00:15:06.809 --> 00:15:09.649
things with old people's money i get that she

00:15:09.649 --> 00:15:14.409
ruined lives but like if her bullying galene

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maxwell is her way to like make up for that i'll

00:15:17.250 --> 00:15:19.870
take it that's fine with yeah honestly like yeah

00:15:19.870 --> 00:15:22.889
being mean to a like horrific sex trafficker

00:15:22.889 --> 00:15:27.009
go for it yeah and i hope that's one way to redeem

00:15:27.009 --> 00:15:33.990
yourself yeah yeah uh but god so so uncool And

00:15:33.990 --> 00:15:35.950
she is uncool. Like, I just want to say that,

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Ghislaine Maxwell, you're not bestie approved

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at all. Ew, no. But, so, this first episode,

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it's a two -part episode, and this first episode

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could have been entirely its own episode. I love

00:15:49.950 --> 00:15:52.970
the bait and switch they pull with it. Yeah.

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But, so, we open, and Jen's playing basketball

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with her son, Omar, and, like, something that's

00:16:00.149 --> 00:16:04.759
always bothered me about, like, like when I see

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into people's families and kids call like say

00:16:06.940 --> 00:16:08.700
yes ma 'am to their parents I don't know why

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that makes me so uncomfortable but like it's

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like it gives like stranger vibes or like yes

00:16:14.379 --> 00:16:17.899
like it just it really tells me like I was told

00:16:17.899 --> 00:16:20.279
to say this on camera too like I was told to

00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:22.379
address you this way like we had a talk before

00:16:22.379 --> 00:16:25.460
we filmed where I'm supposed to say that like

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there's another family that I'm going to bring

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up later that does this exact same thing oh good

00:16:30.620 --> 00:16:34.919
good But then so we head over to the Wild Rose

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Whitney's house and she decides that it's time

00:16:37.500 --> 00:16:39.879
to pull their stripper pole out of the living

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room. And that leads to them both getting onto

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the pole. And then like that was a double swirl.

00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.080
Yeah. And that was the first moment where I was

00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.279
like, oh, I kind of see what Whitney sees. Like,

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I get it. I always say this, that, like, there

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is something, like, some little charming spark

00:16:57.500 --> 00:17:01.179
about Justin, even though he's kind of old, like,

00:17:01.299 --> 00:17:03.519
a little too much of a dad bod at this point.

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Kind of has, like, a little piggy nose. But,

00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:09.240
like, also there's something, like, I can tell

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he's fun. He is fun, but, like, I felt the same

00:17:14.700 --> 00:17:17.240
way about the dad bod, and then I saw him running

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around without a shirt on on Instagram, and I

00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:24.140
was like, oh, oh, there it is. There it is. But

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we head over to maybe gorgeous Lisa's house,

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and she tries out this, like, the meta quest

00:17:30.339 --> 00:17:34.619
thing that Henry's playing with. Yeah, VR game.

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And she says she doesn't ever work out, but,

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like, she has. abs and like she's I was thinking

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that I'm like her body looks insane she's in

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workout clothes which apparently Mormons like

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to wear because they don't have to wear their

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garments under it so they like go around in workout

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clothes all day I think I learned this from Secret

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Lives of Mormon Wives it's sort of how you get

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around like that although Lisa dresses up in

00:18:01.140 --> 00:18:04.019
like outfits that she could never wear Lisa never

00:18:04.019 --> 00:18:07.140
wears garments so that's the other thing too

00:18:07.140 --> 00:18:11.079
that Emma and I got into recently where she gets

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very defensive about being part of the church

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but like i've never seen her in an outfit that

00:18:17.140 --> 00:18:19.680
would support wearing the like temple garments

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and i don't care like i want you to i think it's

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weird for a church to tell their parishioners

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like you have to wear weird underwear yeah yeah

00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:32.460
it's just joseph smith needs to stop that's just

00:18:32.460 --> 00:18:38.519
all right i mean he was he was crazy it's not

00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:43.390
not ideal no but we head over to mary's closet

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mary facetimes everyone except for jenny mary's

00:18:46.089 --> 00:18:51.490
crazy closet the the level of hoarding that's

00:18:51.490 --> 00:18:54.109
going on there i was gonna say it's like a 90s

00:18:54.109 --> 00:18:56.470
hoarding explosion but because there's so much

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space it almost looks organized or like she gets

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away with it because there are just so many rooms

00:19:01.750 --> 00:19:05.339
dedicated to her hoard well that and like it's

00:19:05.339 --> 00:19:07.740
all like i mean it's millions of dollars worth

00:19:07.740 --> 00:19:10.480
of clothes like it's it's all so expensive so

00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:12.839
it's like oh it's like it's designer trash but

00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:15.809
i'm like The level of anxiety that I would get

00:19:15.809 --> 00:19:17.950
walking through that house, like, I wouldn't

00:19:17.950 --> 00:19:19.369
be able to handle it. I wouldn't want to touch

00:19:19.369 --> 00:19:23.029
anything. I wouldn't, yeah. Also, like, I have

00:19:23.029 --> 00:19:25.630
a running theory. I would need, like, someone

00:19:25.630 --> 00:19:28.490
more well -versed in fashion and, like, fashion

00:19:28.490 --> 00:19:30.750
lines than when they came out. But my theory

00:19:30.750 --> 00:19:36.190
is all of her stuff is from, like, 2008. I feel

00:19:36.190 --> 00:19:39.009
like it's all from a certain era and a little

00:19:39.009 --> 00:19:43.180
old. That's... That's, that's what I get from

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it. I tend to agree with you on that. And like,

00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:53.920
it's like, like when Ed Hardy and Christian Audigier

00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:55.619
and all that was really popular, it all feels

00:19:55.619 --> 00:19:57.980
like it's from that era. Right. I feel like she

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has a lot of like the neon, like graffiti Louis

00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:08.420
Vuitton stuff. Yes. Which by the way. Sorry,

00:20:08.420 --> 00:20:11.480
my dog's deciding to throw a tantrum. That's

00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:14.960
okay. He's perfect. Because she has half an hour

00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.799
until her dinner, so she likes to make it everyone's

00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:21.700
problem while she waits. Beautiful. Sorry about

00:20:21.700 --> 00:20:23.819
that. No, you're fine. Don't ever apologize.

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You may have to edit out a Yelp here or there.

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We've had several episodes where you can hear

00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:33.900
Emma's son Jack sitting next to me just talking.

00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:37.200
The besties love it. It's okay. It's fine. Okay.

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All right. There is a tantrum dog here. But Mary

00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:46.160
FaceTimes everyone except for Jenny to invite

00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:49.000
them to a cooking class where the dress code

00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.539
is Italian street wear. And then Mary starts

00:20:52.539 --> 00:20:57.920
doing this Italian accent and I hate when anyone

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does an accent as a bit. It's so bad. It's so

00:21:01.299 --> 00:21:05.279
bad. And then like Like, I guess she doesn't

00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:07.599
invite Jenny because when they were all at the

00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:09.720
tubing thing, Jenny screamed, shut the fuck up.

00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:13.380
And that's a type of disrespect. Yeah. Yeah.

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And we get a flashback to that. And we hear Mary

00:21:18.500 --> 00:21:23.259
say to Jenny, get your language right. And I

00:21:23.259 --> 00:21:27.039
was like, oh, oh, I remember feeling bad for

00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:29.490
Jenny in this moment. And I shouldn't have ever

00:21:29.490 --> 00:21:33.309
felt bad for Jenny, but there's that. Was her

00:21:33.309 --> 00:21:36.670
deal she was a big racist? I can't remember.

00:21:36.710 --> 00:21:41.130
Was Jenny's or Mary's? No, Jenny, but I think

00:21:41.130 --> 00:21:43.930
I might be wrong. No, no, no, you're 100 % right.

00:21:44.250 --> 00:21:46.930
Right? I was like, didn't she end up, like, abruptly

00:21:46.930 --> 00:21:51.079
leaving? yes so she did a whole song and dance

00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:53.480
with like white lives matter like that was that

00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:56.480
was jenny yes yes yes yeah because i was like

00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.019
she was sort of like edited out after a while

00:21:59.019 --> 00:22:03.880
because she made some faux pas yeah um but anyway

00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:07.660
so whitney doesn't answer mary's facetime for

00:22:07.660 --> 00:22:10.000
the italian cooking day so we get a quick look

00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.519
at the novel that she like texted her over the

00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:16.809
shoulder and like it doesn't like stay long enough

00:22:16.809 --> 00:22:19.029
to read it but like i just know mary's this person

00:22:19.029 --> 00:22:21.349
that's constantly sending like lines and lines

00:22:21.349 --> 00:22:23.710
and lines of text oh yeah well i'm like this

00:22:23.710 --> 00:22:25.730
is a party invite just be like hey we're having

00:22:25.730 --> 00:22:29.349
a cooking class dress festive here are the deets

00:22:29.349 --> 00:22:33.630
like but it's it is it's pages pages of words

00:22:33.630 --> 00:22:38.329
yes and then we head over to merida's house and

00:22:38.329 --> 00:22:40.890
merida desperately needs a manicure so she invites

00:22:40.890 --> 00:22:44.380
jenny over uh So, for the nail techs to come

00:22:44.380 --> 00:22:46.180
over to make that happen in our living room.

00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:49.640
And, like, the leisure of Meredith Marks' life

00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:52.519
is just something that, like, I don't know if

00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:54.519
I aspire to it. Because, like, I feel like I

00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:58.619
would get so exhaustively bored. Right? Yeah.

00:22:58.980 --> 00:23:02.319
God, I'm obsessed with her. Throws money at stuff.

00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:05.839
Does whatever she wants. Like, oh, my nails are

00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:07.960
bad. Let's just have people come to the house

00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:11.680
and pamper us. and i have a lot of questions

00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:13.799
about the amount of money like i wonder like

00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:16.240
i know she's got like the the meredith marks

00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:18.599
like she's the boutique and like i know she's

00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.099
a jewelry designer yeah but seth worked for big

00:23:22.099 --> 00:23:24.200
lots when they were still around so like i'm

00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:27.000
trying to figure out like did did she i don't

00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.240
think anyone knows what seth does really like

00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:35.480
yeah yeah no clue no clue i don't know um but

00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:37.559
then jenny walks in and meredith's dog teddy

00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:41.319
jumps up to say hi and the reaction felt off

00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:43.240
to me and like because i don't trust people that

00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:45.079
don't like dogs like there's something about

00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:47.640
it for me and i'm honestly really glad she was

00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:49.500
fired after people found out about like that

00:23:49.500 --> 00:23:52.910
whole white lives matter song and dance so yeah

00:23:52.910 --> 00:23:55.910
uh and like she was on some for all of us well

00:23:55.910 --> 00:23:58.130
the dog knew and then there she was on some anti

00:23:58.130 --> 00:24:01.490
-vaxxer bullshit too like i like no no no if

00:24:01.490 --> 00:24:03.710
i ever dig into like jenny i fucking hate her

00:24:03.710 --> 00:24:09.109
i hate her but yeah anyways so um meredith tells

00:24:09.109 --> 00:24:11.009
jenny that she planned a trip to veil for her

00:24:11.009 --> 00:24:13.289
family and now they can't go so meredith conveniently

00:24:13.289 --> 00:24:16.269
has this empty house it's for a cast big house

00:24:16.269 --> 00:24:20.829
yeah and i'll never what was that song and dance

00:24:20.829 --> 00:24:24.650
why i i i don't ever want them to stop the song

00:24:24.650 --> 00:24:27.170
and dance i love the song and dance of like yeah

00:24:27.170 --> 00:24:29.710
making up a reason like it's like when megan

00:24:29.710 --> 00:24:32.690
king edmonds was like my family's in ireland

00:24:32.690 --> 00:24:36.269
so i want to go to irish roots yeah yeah i could

00:24:36.269 --> 00:24:38.069
go up and tap someone on the shoulder and i'll

00:24:38.069 --> 00:24:40.829
be related to them i'm obsessed with that please

00:24:40.829 --> 00:24:44.750
don't ever stop the weird that that we are supposed

00:24:44.750 --> 00:24:48.349
to buy into as to why they are why they're going

00:24:48.349 --> 00:24:51.769
and it's so it's always such a stupid reason

00:24:51.769 --> 00:24:54.109
and they're like oh they'll buy it like yeah

00:24:54.109 --> 00:24:57.809
and we do we do we do i'm like you know what

00:24:57.809 --> 00:25:00.390
her family all of a sudden all couldn't go now

00:25:00.390 --> 00:25:06.009
she has a huge house and completely disregard

00:25:06.009 --> 00:25:09.299
the fact that when they show up it is Only marketing

00:25:09.299 --> 00:25:11.720
for this company that owns the house. It's like

00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:17.579
clearly a joint sponsored thing with Bravo, NBC

00:25:17.579 --> 00:25:21.579
Universal for this house. But I'll buy it. I'll

00:25:21.579 --> 00:25:24.259
buy it every time. And the more ridiculous the

00:25:24.259 --> 00:25:26.519
reason, the better as far as I'm concerned. I

00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:31.259
love it. But we head over where Heather and Ashley

00:25:31.259 --> 00:25:33.240
are going to lunch for Heather's niece's birthday.

00:25:33.339 --> 00:25:35.759
And then we get the obligatory jokes about Mormons

00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:39.819
not drinking. Drinking, yeah. like the performative

00:25:39.819 --> 00:25:43.940
like i'm glad that they've like gotten away from

00:25:43.940 --> 00:25:46.099
that over time because i'm like god it's so annoying

00:25:46.099 --> 00:25:48.460
just i don't care just i don't drink or don't

00:25:48.460 --> 00:25:50.839
drink i don't care but like i don't need to joke

00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:55.359
about it um yeah yeah i know what you mean the

00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:58.579
uh the niece and her husband decided to leave

00:25:58.579 --> 00:26:00.380
the mormon church because like their felt their

00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:06.420
faith like started to fall apart and i'm glad

00:26:06.420 --> 00:26:08.160
that they're starting to like talk about some

00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:12.599
of this stuff because i think that mormonism

00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.420
is like and it's it's not for me to decide whether

00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:17.900
it is or not but mormonism really is looked at

00:26:17.900 --> 00:26:23.299
very harshly and i think that people get a bad

00:26:23.299 --> 00:26:25.259
rap like when they associate with mormonism so

00:26:25.259 --> 00:26:27.779
like talking about like getting out and like

00:26:27.779 --> 00:26:31.559
what that does to you i think it like gives it's

00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:33.460
almost humanizing in a way like when it comes

00:26:33.460 --> 00:26:36.299
to that yeah no i totally agree i was like we

00:26:36.299 --> 00:26:39.019
understand like there is there is like you know

00:26:39.019 --> 00:26:42.140
they are dealing with heavy shit and and like

00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:44.960
as much as they're like we're funny girls like

00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:48.539
you know we're sort of wholesome it's like they're

00:26:48.539 --> 00:26:50.660
also dealing with being like shunned by the community

00:26:50.660 --> 00:26:54.039
that raised them and yeah and like i really enjoyed

00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:56.640
when they toasted to the outer darkness and then

00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.759
heather explains like the different levels of

00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:01.880
heaven there's like celestial where the good

00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.779
mormons go then terrestrial where mormons like

00:27:04.779 --> 00:27:07.460
lisa go that just can't quite actually do the

00:27:07.460 --> 00:27:10.960
full lifestyle which i loved that dig i've always

00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.630
said always It amazes me that like the same church

00:27:14.630 --> 00:27:18.009
that kicked out Heather because her husband wanted

00:27:18.009 --> 00:27:21.009
a divorce and kicked out Whitney for, you know,

00:27:21.009 --> 00:27:25.569
falling for someone while married. Also is the

00:27:25.569 --> 00:27:28.089
church that is like, Lisa, you're perfect. Never

00:27:28.089 --> 00:27:31.789
change. So I like when Heather explains a little

00:27:31.789 --> 00:27:34.589
bit as to like, no, Lisa like holds herself to

00:27:34.589 --> 00:27:38.380
different standards than a lot of people. And

00:27:38.380 --> 00:27:40.740
I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that when

00:27:40.740 --> 00:27:43.460
Lisa saw that, like, John got a dish thrown at

00:27:43.460 --> 00:27:47.359
his head. I do know that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And

00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:50.920
I love the next level after terrestrial is telestial,

00:27:51.339 --> 00:27:54.039
I believe. And that's where, like, murderers

00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.319
go. They said, like, Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer

00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:01.559
were examples. And, like, I don't know that I

00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:05.119
buy any specific religion. I don't know what's

00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:07.829
out there. I don't know. But, like. I do know

00:28:07.829 --> 00:28:11.410
that if there's a heaven, Jeffrey Dahmer's not

00:28:11.410 --> 00:28:15.660
there. He's not in any level of it. Yeah. right

00:28:15.660 --> 00:28:19.480
and i know that is not going to be a level below

00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.900
him i know that and then below that is the outer

00:28:22.900 --> 00:28:25.700
darkness that's where people who have been shunned

00:28:25.700 --> 00:28:28.079
by the church go so heather's like yeah we have

00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:30.240
to like ask jeffrey dahmer for a seat at the

00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.559
heaven table god they're so self -important with

00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.319
themselves exactly and one then heather also

00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.299
explains how self -righteous even she was where

00:28:39.299 --> 00:28:41.940
she talks about like her sister who had left

00:28:41.940 --> 00:28:44.440
the church's wedding and they were supposed to

00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.630
wear like little spaghetti strap dresses that

00:28:46.630 --> 00:28:48.589
like came up very high. Like they weren't showing

00:28:48.589 --> 00:28:51.029
any cleavage. They were like a tube top with

00:28:51.029 --> 00:28:53.589
a spaghetti strap. But she demanded like they

00:28:53.589 --> 00:28:56.549
make her a bolero jacket so she could wear her

00:28:56.549 --> 00:28:59.309
garments to the wedding. And she's like, oh yeah.

00:28:59.349 --> 00:29:01.650
And I thought I was so, I thought I was so much

00:29:01.650 --> 00:29:04.029
better than these sinners showing their shoulders.

00:29:04.710 --> 00:29:08.289
If you're in a place at your sister -in -law's

00:29:08.289 --> 00:29:11.349
wedding to go to a place of custom bolero, like

00:29:11.349 --> 00:29:14.799
you've lost the plot. right yeah like it's it's

00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.339
like this is what your religion's forcing you

00:29:17.339 --> 00:29:19.799
to do to like feel better than other people like

00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.720
it's kind of wasting your time and money probably

00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.480
it is and then like but like you see her in the

00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.619
picture and she's just like chest high and i'm

00:29:29.619 --> 00:29:33.519
like god she's so happy she got her way and is

00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.660
proving how superior she is yeah like and i know

00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:41.500
like i today in 2025 i think she would be probably

00:29:41.500 --> 00:29:43.339
one of the coolest friends to have if i would

00:29:43.339 --> 00:29:46.779
have met her in like 2008 or whenever that was

00:29:46.779 --> 00:29:49.480
gun to my head you couldn't make me hang out

00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:51.559
with her i would say i would have hated the shit

00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.720
out of her yes oh but now i love her who knew

00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.660
you know we're watching we're watching a bad

00:29:57.660 --> 00:30:02.680
mormon be born like before our eyes i do love

00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:05.779
the evolution of it too i gotta tell you oh i

00:30:05.779 --> 00:30:08.730
know but We head over with Jen and Stu where

00:30:08.730 --> 00:30:11.390
they're going snowshoeing because Jen's therapist

00:30:11.390 --> 00:30:13.369
says she needs to spend quality time with the

00:30:13.369 --> 00:30:17.009
people she loves. When that means her assistant

00:30:17.009 --> 00:30:21.210
slash business partner, Stu. There's a lot here.

00:30:21.750 --> 00:30:25.190
Like, because it makes me wonder if they knew.

00:30:25.819 --> 00:30:27.980
the arrest warrants were out like that's number

00:30:27.980 --> 00:30:30.460
one for me they had where they they know something's

00:30:30.460 --> 00:30:32.779
coming down the pike and she's because she really

00:30:32.779 --> 00:30:34.720
is painting herself like you know i do all of

00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:37.779
this for you for our employees like i work so

00:30:37.779 --> 00:30:40.720
hard and don't have a relationship she works

00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:42.259
so hard doesn't have a relationship with her

00:30:42.259 --> 00:30:44.960
kids as much as she'd like to because she is

00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.119
putting a meal on so many people's tables like

00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.799
it's like the way she's like i had to do this

00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:53.660
because i i take care of your family you know

00:30:53.660 --> 00:30:56.640
that stew and like yeah we get the confessional

00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.700
of stew is so much more than a business partner

00:30:59.700 --> 00:31:02.960
he is he's like my best friend or whatever she

00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:04.839
said something to that right yeah and this is

00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.400
dear listener i'm gonna come back to this moment

00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.019
when we recap season three when she proceeds

00:31:11.019 --> 00:31:15.500
to say i i don't know who stew is like that man

00:31:15.500 --> 00:31:20.529
had his own businesses like at this time he was

00:31:20.529 --> 00:31:26.269
like her business soulmate so yes yeah and then

00:31:26.269 --> 00:31:29.609
it's rough yeah the whole thing it reads like

00:31:29.609 --> 00:31:36.009
sort of you know like a planned yeah self -commercial

00:31:36.009 --> 00:31:42.450
basically and like i'm glad they put in the part

00:31:42.450 --> 00:31:45.549
about like oh he's he's so much more than that

00:31:45.549 --> 00:31:47.980
because i think it's It's really important to

00:31:47.980 --> 00:31:54.559
see the inconsistencies. And then it's time for

00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.720
the cooking class. So we head over to the Park

00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.299
City Culinary Institute and that's getting all

00:32:01.299 --> 00:32:03.799
set up. And the way Mary interacts with people

00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:07.980
that are at her service, setting up anything,

00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:13.000
is so wild to me. So awkward. And she's always

00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.059
like half... she's like seems very unsure and

00:32:16.059 --> 00:32:17.900
sort of like stilted but is always like sort

00:32:17.900 --> 00:32:21.259
of teaching a lesson at the same time yes the

00:32:21.259 --> 00:32:23.380
way she needs to teach like the owner of the

00:32:23.380 --> 00:32:26.579
culinary institute where to put a glass on the

00:32:26.579 --> 00:32:30.000
table i'm like i've i i have a friend that like

00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.039
that is kind of like that where she like lays

00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:34.599
out the silverware in the right way and i'm like

00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:36.420
i have i don't know where any of it goes i'm

00:32:36.420 --> 00:32:38.420
like i'm eating with my hands i'm from kentucky

00:32:38.420 --> 00:32:44.789
who cares yeah um but then Jen rolls up with

00:32:44.789 --> 00:32:46.990
Stu and she's on the back of a Vespa wearing

00:32:46.990 --> 00:32:50.910
an Italian flag as a cape. And then we juxtapose

00:32:50.910 --> 00:32:53.730
that with Meredith walking in with a leather

00:32:53.730 --> 00:32:56.109
jacket, like cut out in the back. And like, she's

00:32:56.109 --> 00:32:59.109
serving nothing but cut. Like I think she is

00:32:59.109 --> 00:33:02.769
so hot and like one of the best dressers. She

00:33:02.769 --> 00:33:07.390
looks so good. It's giving like, like mob wife

00:33:07.390 --> 00:33:11.339
at fashion week. Like it's very good. yes and

00:33:11.339 --> 00:33:13.700
like it's like it's so tight and i'm like everything

00:33:13.700 --> 00:33:17.220
is just perfect and i'm like this this is what

00:33:17.220 --> 00:33:19.740
i want like this more that was like yeah that

00:33:19.740 --> 00:33:22.400
was like when she was on her peak blazer game

00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.599
you know it was it was it was a good time for

00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.920
her wardrobe it was um and then we get back into

00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.059
Mary's Italian accent, and she starts to throw

00:33:33.059 --> 00:33:35.000
around words that I think she believes in her

00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.200
heart to be Italian words, but I'm on... I feel

00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.420
like she's trying to say, like, tagliatelle or

00:33:41.420 --> 00:33:44.799
something, or, like, it's bad. Oh, bolognese.

00:33:45.099 --> 00:33:49.200
I don't know. The bolognese, and, like, the scusi,

00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.279
and I'm like, first of all, I'm on a 560 -day

00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.099
Duolingo streak with Italian. That's not a word.

00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:59.180
What you're saying is not a word. She's making

00:33:59.180 --> 00:34:03.710
shit up. yeah but that i feel like that's the

00:34:03.710 --> 00:34:06.890
theme for mary honestly right yeah i feel like

00:34:06.890 --> 00:34:09.769
i mean once i'm i'm sure you're caught up in

00:34:09.769 --> 00:34:11.809
real time with salt lake as it's been airing

00:34:11.809 --> 00:34:14.070
and when her church reopens she's like i didn't

00:34:14.070 --> 00:34:16.429
have a plan i just just wing it when i preach

00:34:16.429 --> 00:34:23.210
and i'm like that's mary that yeah yeah i'm like

00:34:23.210 --> 00:34:27.079
of course she didn't have a plan no Where she

00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:28.840
did have a plan, though, was with Whitney because

00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.340
Whitney's riding with Heather to the lunch where

00:34:31.340 --> 00:34:34.440
they find out that they got completely different

00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.159
dress codes. And then we see the invitation that

00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.460
I know she, like, made one of the people at her

00:34:39.460 --> 00:34:41.260
church, like, put together in, like, Microsoft

00:34:41.260 --> 00:34:43.400
Publisher. Yeah, I would say, like, not even

00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.920
Canva. No. And it's, like, go to. Someone just

00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.900
clip -arted or, you know, copy and pasted some

00:34:49.900 --> 00:34:54.400
Google image search results. yeah and it's so

00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:57.639
bad but i'm like what's worse is the outfit itself

00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.639
where it's like go to go to spirit halloween

00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.559
find mafia ho costumes yeah and that was so mean

00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:08.519
like it was yeah she gave everyone like street

00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:11.920
wear pictures of like cool chic italian people

00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:16.469
and then gave Whitney like Halloween store mafia

00:35:16.469 --> 00:35:21.949
dumb slut costumes and luckily Whitney wore just

00:35:21.949 --> 00:35:26.309
sort of a nice like kind of oversized suit and

00:35:26.309 --> 00:35:28.769
I like that she and Heather compare notes in

00:35:28.769 --> 00:35:31.030
the car and she figures it out before it's like

00:35:31.030 --> 00:35:32.829
sprung on her and she's like well that's not

00:35:32.829 --> 00:35:36.190
nice like I just my heart always breaks for poor

00:35:36.190 --> 00:35:39.760
Whitney i feel the same way because i'm like

00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:42.179
i don't think whitney has a bad bone in her body

00:35:42.179 --> 00:35:44.039
like even when she was doing the whole healing

00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.840
journey thing like i couldn't stay mad at her

00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:50.300
because i'm like i believe it all comes from

00:35:50.300 --> 00:35:52.739
a very real i was gonna say she always means

00:35:52.739 --> 00:35:55.820
well and she's always being like authentic her

00:35:55.820 --> 00:35:58.440
authentic self and her authentic self is messy

00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:02.280
but that's not like you know it's not messy aggressive

00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.480
or like messy to with you like if she's just

00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:10.920
messy It's messy. And then for Mary to like just

00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:13.320
go so out of her way to be so childish and mean.

00:36:13.340 --> 00:36:17.659
Yeah, like high school prank. Yeah. Yeah. But

00:36:17.659 --> 00:36:20.539
then we get a cutaway to Ginny making homemade

00:36:20.539 --> 00:36:22.539
yogurt with her little angel kids. And this is

00:36:22.539 --> 00:36:24.800
what I was going to bring up later. They are

00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.059
so sweet. They were coached to act like that.

00:36:28.099 --> 00:36:31.699
No kid comes into a scene and goes, I would love

00:36:31.699 --> 00:36:36.389
to make yogurt with you. Can we please? No. but

00:36:36.389 --> 00:36:39.809
we get a confessional talking they're great kids

00:36:39.809 --> 00:36:43.510
I don't like the mom though no I was gonna say

00:36:43.510 --> 00:36:45.369
too bad about their mom but like they're little

00:36:45.369 --> 00:36:47.710
sweeties they did a good scene for their mom

00:36:47.710 --> 00:36:51.369
they did good and then we get a confessional

00:36:52.619 --> 00:36:55.239
where jenny's talking about mary being so elegant

00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.099
on the outside but being shitty on the inside

00:36:57.099 --> 00:36:59.699
and i wanted to think about that statement as

00:36:59.699 --> 00:37:02.320
she's rereading her january 6th and black lives

00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.280
matter tweets like i really want her to like

00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:08.159
take that in yeah yeah let's think about that

00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:13.340
yeah kind of kind of uh applies to you too girl

00:37:13.340 --> 00:37:18.099
yeah and then we get back to the cooking class

00:37:18.099 --> 00:37:22.039
yeah i also i just love that like we have been

00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:25.000
set up to think that this is the like climactic

00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:28.920
event is like mary and whitney coming coming

00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:32.960
to coming to a head at this class and and mary's

00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:36.320
upset because whitney didn't answer four calls

00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:38.840
in a row where it's like if she's still not available

00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:40.980
if she's not available a minute ago she's still

00:37:40.980 --> 00:37:43.619
not going to be available and she didn't return

00:37:43.619 --> 00:37:47.440
the call and that's why oh yeah she didn't return

00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:51.059
the call that's why she gets pranked and so like

00:37:51.059 --> 00:37:54.019
and and we think that this is an episode title

00:37:54.019 --> 00:37:57.400
is about like i was driving carpool and that's

00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.460
whitney's excuse for why she couldn't answer

00:38:00.460 --> 00:38:03.039
and i just love that they set us up to be like

00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:05.679
all right this is the fight we're here for this

00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:09.679
is this is the main event and It could have been.

00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:11.719
That's the great thing about this show is it

00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:14.599
really could have been. I mean, we got some great

00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.380
lines from Mary that, like, I still say. Like,

00:38:17.380 --> 00:38:20.280
I call my dog, like, little girl all the time.

00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.280
We got little girl out of this. Yeah. Oh, my

00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:30.019
God. But so they're, like, this whole lunch is

00:38:30.019 --> 00:38:31.900
chaos. And, like, I can't imagine what it's like

00:38:31.900 --> 00:38:33.840
to work in any of these restaurants that, like,

00:38:33.860 --> 00:38:36.559
these things are. Like, person trying to teach

00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.599
them something. Like, no. trying to teach them

00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.900
something or trying to like serve them wine or

00:38:42.900 --> 00:38:46.739
whatever the case may be but like we uh so they're

00:38:46.739 --> 00:38:48.519
they're fighting we get the little girl moment

00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:53.099
whitney is blasted to hell and back she is wasted

00:38:53.099 --> 00:38:56.179
and she's like crying and like she just like

00:38:56.179 --> 00:39:01.960
sobs yes and she's like mary i love you and like

00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:03.920
it's come i think it's coming from a real place

00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:06.420
but like oh yeah mary looks at whitney and goes

00:39:06.420 --> 00:39:08.880
then act like it and i was like this is how she

00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:10.840
talks to people at her church i know that oh

00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.980
yeah yeah yeah that's i bet yeah 100 that comes

00:39:14.980 --> 00:39:18.570
very naturally to her at this point But then

00:39:18.570 --> 00:39:21.349
Meredith pulls Whitney aside and then we get

00:39:21.349 --> 00:39:23.809
the whole rundown of like the insane text. And

00:39:23.809 --> 00:39:27.550
then Meredith decides that this is the right

00:39:27.550 --> 00:39:30.829
time to bring up the Cameron situation from the

00:39:30.829 --> 00:39:34.070
Fresh Wolf. Yeah. And I believe they had already

00:39:34.070 --> 00:39:36.269
talked a little bit about like because Lisa didn't

00:39:36.269 --> 00:39:38.349
invite everyone to the Fresh Wolf event. And

00:39:38.349 --> 00:39:40.510
like some people are upset. I don't think Mary

00:39:40.510 --> 00:39:44.719
or Jen Shaw were invited or something. And but

00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.659
then Lisa apparently invited a guy named Cameron,

00:39:47.780 --> 00:39:50.760
who was a member of Mary's church, who says,

00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.019
like, basically, be careful. Good luck dealing

00:39:54.019 --> 00:39:57.800
with her. Right. And Meredith was unsettled.

00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:03.079
i'll buy that because like what i have to believe

00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:04.559
is happening and like what we're kind of getting

00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.460
confirmation in real time of is like there are

00:40:07.460 --> 00:40:09.980
talks in salt lake city about like this is a

00:40:09.980 --> 00:40:12.579
cult like this this church where this woman married

00:40:12.579 --> 00:40:16.690
her step -grandfather it is a cult And you hear

00:40:16.690 --> 00:40:18.510
rumblings of that, but you're like, no, I've

00:40:18.510 --> 00:40:20.809
met Mary. She seems wonderful. And then you can

00:40:20.809 --> 00:40:23.170
kind of like explain it all away with like, well,

00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:24.889
maybe she was brainwashed. Maybe this, maybe

00:40:24.889 --> 00:40:27.769
that. She was taken away at 18 by her step grandpa

00:40:27.769 --> 00:40:30.389
and bought a bunch of stuff, in my opinion, in

00:40:30.389 --> 00:40:33.789
around 2008 that like one or over brainwashed

00:40:33.789 --> 00:40:36.570
her. But like still probably taking advantage

00:40:36.570 --> 00:40:40.869
of people. So like. 100%. But then you get like

00:40:40.869 --> 00:40:43.469
the story from Cameron about, yeah, I mortgaged

00:40:43.469 --> 00:40:47.369
my house and I gave them $30 ,000. Right. Like,

00:40:47.369 --> 00:40:50.269
it's not great. None of it turns out to be great.

00:40:50.769 --> 00:40:53.670
Cameron seems to basically says like, you know,

00:40:53.670 --> 00:40:57.469
they suck people dry, like financially. Yeah.

00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:03.000
And Whitney says she's friends with one of Mary's

00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.639
cousins. Yes. Who he has also said, like, be

00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.920
careful and just, like, never make her mad. Right.

00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.639
And that's where we start to get into Mary's

00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:16.239
church believes that she is God. Right. Right.

00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:19.800
And then we get a cutaway to the picture of Mama

00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:21.940
Cosby with Jesus. The Mama painting or picture

00:41:21.940 --> 00:41:24.539
up in the church. Yeah, with Jesus. And, yeah.

00:41:24.579 --> 00:41:27.780
That is one of my. Oh, it's such a good picture.

00:41:28.670 --> 00:41:31.329
I want it in my house so bad. It's like they're

00:41:31.329 --> 00:41:33.510
just chilling together and someone was like,

00:41:33.570 --> 00:41:37.510
guys, smile. And they do. Up on a cloud. Because

00:41:37.510 --> 00:41:43.110
you're with Jesus. Jesus Christ. But, like, that's

00:41:43.110 --> 00:41:44.590
another one of those things where religion is

00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:47.309
just a wild concept to me. Like, looking at that,

00:41:47.369 --> 00:41:50.409
I'm like. People look at that and they're like,

00:41:50.510 --> 00:41:53.110
yeah, that, that feels right. That's true. That

00:41:53.110 --> 00:41:55.409
is true. Yeah. And like Whitney explains, like

00:41:55.409 --> 00:41:58.289
they think she speaks directly to Jesus. Like

00:41:58.289 --> 00:42:00.949
they say, like Jesus speaks through her. So like

00:42:00.949 --> 00:42:04.210
they think they're talking to God. Yes. And.

00:42:05.309 --> 00:42:08.010
they so they head back to the table where mary

00:42:08.010 --> 00:42:10.150
has now become the victim and she's like crying

00:42:10.150 --> 00:42:11.750
and it's the whole thing and she like looks at

00:42:11.750 --> 00:42:13.750
meredith and she's like you didn't listen to

00:42:13.750 --> 00:42:16.469
my side and meredith is someone i will tell you

00:42:16.469 --> 00:42:20.570
right now that i want around when i'm in a fight

00:42:20.570 --> 00:42:22.309
because like the calming energy that was like

00:42:22.309 --> 00:42:25.429
i tried to talk to you you weren't interested

00:42:25.429 --> 00:42:29.449
and that's okay god damn you're like shit that

00:42:29.449 --> 00:42:35.219
shut me down like yeah But so then we start to

00:42:35.219 --> 00:42:36.619
get the shots of everyone getting ready for the

00:42:36.619 --> 00:42:39.760
trip. Meredith calls Heather while she's trying

00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:49.260
on a candy bra. We find out. I know she's every

00:42:49.260 --> 00:42:52.019
every shot of her throughout this episode gets

00:42:52.019 --> 00:42:57.179
more and more absurd. um but we find out that

00:42:57.179 --> 00:42:59.320
meredith goes to colorado early for her dad's

00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.159
memorial service and this also comes up as a

00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:04.960
plot point later but um heather's now the leader

00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.340
of this road trip right but please dear listener

00:43:08.340 --> 00:43:10.719
this is something that i'm coming back to where

00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:15.659
like this is one where i feel really bad for

00:43:15.659 --> 00:43:19.940
meredith but anyway right um yeah baby gorgeous

00:43:19.940 --> 00:43:22.559
lisa is like sitting in an insane pile of clothes

00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:27.369
and like for for a two -day trip by the way right

00:43:27.369 --> 00:43:29.949
i'm like it's like maybe two nights like or one

00:43:29.949 --> 00:43:33.050
i don't know yeah yeah and i'm like i don't know

00:43:33.050 --> 00:43:35.889
who this is for like this this whole song and

00:43:35.889 --> 00:43:38.469
dance but like she tells john it's rhetorical

00:43:38.469 --> 00:43:40.269
when she asked for his opinion and i was like

00:43:40.269 --> 00:43:42.590
john john understands his marriage i get that

00:43:42.590 --> 00:43:46.769
oh yeah he might just start he might just now

00:43:46.769 --> 00:43:48.550
be getting a little sick of it but like he does

00:43:48.550 --> 00:43:53.619
know what the arrangement is yes he's just a

00:43:53.619 --> 00:43:57.340
body he's he's just there to like validate her

00:43:57.340 --> 00:44:01.480
really and then yeah and then we step into jen's

00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:04.860
closet where sharif walks in and she's helped

00:44:04.860 --> 00:44:07.539
her uh says helping jen pack is the worst thing

00:44:07.539 --> 00:44:10.420
and i'm like give her 24 hours and see what you

00:44:10.420 --> 00:44:17.480
think oh there will be worse things oh yeah it's

00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.019
true We get to go to the sacred place of the

00:44:21.019 --> 00:44:26.119
beauty lab and laser parking lot. Our promised

00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:31.460
land. Heather is the first one on the bus because

00:44:31.460 --> 00:44:34.539
we find out Mary's flying private to Vail because

00:44:34.539 --> 00:44:37.300
she has a headache. Yeah, she has a headache.

00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.760
Didn't want to get up in time to meet them at

00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:43.840
the van, so she's flying private. Yeah, and Meredith's

00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:45.400
already there, so Heather's in charge of this

00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:51.289
bus ride now. Yes. The Wild Rose shows up with

00:44:51.289 --> 00:44:56.570
a Shotski lover. Of course. Anti -vaxxer Jenny

00:44:56.570 --> 00:45:01.409
rolls up on the bus later. And then Jen shows

00:45:01.409 --> 00:45:06.869
up in her braids. She looks so good. She looks

00:45:06.869 --> 00:45:10.889
incredible. And that's the thing. It's always

00:45:10.889 --> 00:45:14.230
a dichotomy with Jen where I'm like... God, she's

00:45:14.230 --> 00:45:16.070
so fabulous. Why is she such a monster? God,

00:45:16.210 --> 00:45:17.869
she's so beautiful. Why is she such a monster?

00:45:18.130 --> 00:45:20.789
She walks in and I'm like, oh, so striking. The

00:45:20.789 --> 00:45:23.309
star is in the van. But also it's like, Jesus,

00:45:23.349 --> 00:45:27.670
girl, what are you doing? Yes. And then her phone

00:45:27.670 --> 00:45:31.670
rings. Right. It's pretty immediate. Yes, it

00:45:31.670 --> 00:45:35.289
is. Seconds after she sits down and she turns

00:45:35.289 --> 00:45:36.909
around, she looks at Whitney when she realizes

00:45:36.909 --> 00:45:38.289
what's going on on the other end of the phone.

00:45:38.349 --> 00:45:41.110
She hears like two sentences. Yeah. Yeah. And

00:45:41.110 --> 00:45:45.250
she tells Whitney to turn off her mic. And you

00:45:45.250 --> 00:45:47.670
see her outside. You see her talking. And, like,

00:45:47.690 --> 00:45:53.469
I am so desperate. Like, you pled guilty. We

00:45:53.469 --> 00:45:55.750
all know what happened. I am desperate to know

00:45:55.750 --> 00:45:57.670
what happened on that phone call. Like, that's

00:45:57.670 --> 00:46:00.650
all. That's my only piece I don't know. Yeah.

00:46:00.989 --> 00:46:04.230
I feel like we hear her say something, like,

00:46:04.230 --> 00:46:08.070
at the house. Like, she's clearly getting tipped

00:46:08.070 --> 00:46:09.690
off. She goes, I need to go back to the house.

00:46:09.730 --> 00:46:12.510
Like, I can verbatim, I can recite what she said.

00:46:13.019 --> 00:46:18.500
yeah and i i just i want to know what was said

00:46:18.500 --> 00:46:21.059
and then i like but what makes me even more uncomfortable

00:46:21.059 --> 00:46:23.599
and like gives me a lot more pause is heather

00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:26.659
comes out and she's like hey i'm so excited and

00:46:26.659 --> 00:46:27.980
then because that's the first time she's seeing

00:46:27.980 --> 00:46:31.340
heather and she goes i have bad news sharice

00:46:31.340 --> 00:46:32.860
in the hospital he has internal bleeding i have

00:46:32.860 --> 00:46:36.030
to go and i'm like it was so quick and it just

00:46:36.030 --> 00:46:39.389
came right out. I was like, was this always her

00:46:39.389 --> 00:46:41.989
get out? I'm going to say this. Like, how does

00:46:41.989 --> 00:46:44.010
she just like come up with it on the fly? Yeah.

00:46:44.110 --> 00:46:46.190
It's like in a split second, you just hear her

00:46:46.190 --> 00:46:48.289
be like, I have to go Sharif. So like he was,

00:46:48.349 --> 00:46:50.170
I don't know what's going on. He was like going

00:46:50.170 --> 00:46:52.750
for like a quick thing and now he's bleeding.

00:46:52.849 --> 00:46:59.150
I have to go. Yeah. It was so, and it just came

00:46:59.150 --> 00:47:02.480
out so easy. And I'm like, okay and then so she

00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:03.820
goes and tells the rest of the girls like hey

00:47:03.820 --> 00:47:08.280
i'm going and that she leaves and like everyone

00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:10.199
in the moment is like i think a little bit in

00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:11.639
shock because they're like oh what's going on

00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:14.539
and they're like trying to figure out like do

00:47:14.539 --> 00:47:16.260
you want us to wait for you and she's like i

00:47:16.260 --> 00:47:19.019
might come back i'm not sure right because in

00:47:19.019 --> 00:47:21.000
her mind this is something that could like we

00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:23.300
can we can figure it out i can get out of this

00:47:24.110 --> 00:47:26.409
And then the poor producer comes on the bus and

00:47:26.409 --> 00:47:28.230
she's like, are you guys serious about not going?

00:47:28.309 --> 00:47:32.510
And Ginny's like, let's just go. I hate Ginny.

00:47:33.789 --> 00:47:38.769
They end up talking themselves into saying, they're

00:47:38.769 --> 00:47:40.630
like, you know, she would want us to go. She'd

00:47:40.630 --> 00:47:42.650
want us to have fun. Like, we should go. And

00:47:42.650 --> 00:47:44.989
like, while they're talking about this, you can

00:47:44.989 --> 00:47:48.510
see in the window behind them, there's like people

00:47:48.510 --> 00:47:51.650
in vests. or uniforms of some sort and you're

00:47:51.650 --> 00:47:56.590
like wait what am i seeing and you hear the producer

00:47:56.590 --> 00:47:59.150
go you guys there's there's cops and they have

00:47:59.150 --> 00:48:04.230
the handcuffs out something's going on like this

00:48:04.230 --> 00:48:08.150
cop opens the door and like this is how i know

00:48:08.150 --> 00:48:10.170
like beyond the shout of a doubt this but this

00:48:10.170 --> 00:48:13.070
moment was like real real is like right you see

00:48:13.070 --> 00:48:14.909
the reactions where they're like what's What's

00:48:14.909 --> 00:48:18.250
going on? And, like, Whitney's already, like,

00:48:18.269 --> 00:48:20.449
is this a joke? Like, I love that Whitney's already

00:48:20.449 --> 00:48:23.329
kind of expecting strippers at this point. Yes.

00:48:24.630 --> 00:48:28.469
And then Heather, bless her heart, is like, I

00:48:28.469 --> 00:48:31.170
can figure this out. Starts saying, I don't know

00:48:31.170 --> 00:48:34.940
why the po -po's here. Just gets out of the bus

00:48:34.940 --> 00:48:37.239
and calls them the po -po to their face. And

00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.059
I'm like, Heather. What's the po -po doing here?

00:48:39.300 --> 00:48:41.619
And you're like, no, this is real. They have

00:48:41.619 --> 00:48:44.860
like NYPD on their back. For some reason, New

00:48:44.860 --> 00:48:48.900
York is in Utah. HSI, what does that stand for?

00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:54.179
Homeland Security. Yeah. And so that's all happening.

00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:59.780
And we get the to be continued. god this is gold

00:48:59.780 --> 00:49:04.539
probably the wildest to be continued on in housewives

00:49:04.539 --> 00:49:10.400
history yes 100 i can't think of one more shocking

00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:13.099
and it's like even even you know when it first

00:49:13.099 --> 00:49:15.400
aired like we knew it was coming like there had

00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.280
been talk about they were they had cameras up

00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.119
when she got arrested and it's like but seeing

00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:28.070
it pan out it is just so wild every time was

00:49:28.070 --> 00:49:29.789
behind the scenes that no one was supposed to

00:49:29.789 --> 00:49:31.670
see where they're like getting set up and everything

00:49:31.670 --> 00:49:35.989
i'm like oh this oh i i love this yeah when they

00:49:35.989 --> 00:49:37.769
when they're like when they make it clear like

00:49:37.769 --> 00:49:40.510
we're letting you in on this it's it's so satisfying

00:49:40.510 --> 00:49:46.010
good okay so then next episode we pick up where

00:49:46.010 --> 00:49:48.650
we left off at beauty lab and laser truly a sacred

00:49:48.650 --> 00:49:51.469
place where heather's texting jen saying the

00:49:51.469 --> 00:49:53.110
cops are looking for you they said they need

00:49:53.110 --> 00:49:57.019
to talk to you And I love that they go through

00:49:57.019 --> 00:49:59.500
this like, are they trying to help her or get

00:49:59.500 --> 00:50:05.559
her? Like, maybe they want to help her. That

00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:10.559
was a wild thing to me. I'm like, Homeland Security

00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:14.280
does not show up to help anyone. The feds aren't

00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:19.429
here to help. Yeah, we've learned that. But then

00:50:19.429 --> 00:50:22.170
Lisa immediately is sobbing on the phone with

00:50:22.170 --> 00:50:24.829
JB's husband boss. She's like, the SWAT team

00:50:24.829 --> 00:50:28.650
showed up. The police showed up. Yeah. Like,

00:50:28.670 --> 00:50:32.829
that reaction, I have a lot of questions about.

00:50:33.329 --> 00:50:35.989
This time around, I was really trying to pay

00:50:35.989 --> 00:50:39.230
attention to her. And, like, Lisa gets kind of

00:50:39.230 --> 00:50:41.070
cut off. Like, they're talking about, like, why

00:50:41.070 --> 00:50:43.730
were the cops there? And then Lisa says, I think

00:50:43.730 --> 00:50:46.190
it's way more. And then they get cut off because

00:50:46.190 --> 00:50:48.510
then they realize Jen left her bag of snacks

00:50:48.510 --> 00:50:51.989
in the fucking van. And they're like, oh, wait,

00:50:52.030 --> 00:50:53.929
are those Mint Milanos? And then, like, Lisa

00:50:53.929 --> 00:50:56.409
lets the conversation get steered that way. And

00:50:56.409 --> 00:50:58.230
I'm like, was she going to say, like, what does

00:50:58.230 --> 00:51:01.070
she know? No, because she has unhinged ADHD.

00:51:01.489 --> 00:51:03.690
Like, that's the problem with Lisa Barlow. I

00:51:03.690 --> 00:51:05.250
know. And then she's like, oh, Mint Milanos.

00:51:05.369 --> 00:51:08.250
I love junk food. That's my brand. I would have

00:51:08.250 --> 00:51:12.469
that. Yeah. I would eat that. I love that. Oh,

00:51:12.469 --> 00:51:16.940
God. But then Heather keeps talking about how,

00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:19.840
like, the cops just needed to make sure she was

00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.179
okay. And I think she's being so serious and

00:51:22.179 --> 00:51:23.820
honest in saying that she thinks that. And I'm

00:51:23.820 --> 00:51:26.820
like, are you okay? I think that's when we start

00:51:26.820 --> 00:51:29.639
to see, like, I guess the sort of Mormon naivete

00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:32.099
they're raised with, where she's, like, still

00:51:32.099 --> 00:51:34.539
trying to see the bright side or, like, assume

00:51:34.539 --> 00:51:36.460
the best in her friend, where it's like, girl,

00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:41.440
like, you can't Pollyanna this situation into

00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:47.440
being... cool no no um then meredith shows up

00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:51.059
at this this house and she looks so kind in her

00:51:51.059 --> 00:51:54.119
blazer dress like this like tight like i've never

00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:57.599
seen her she's like peak meredith yeah yes um

00:51:57.599 --> 00:51:59.719
like she was only more meredith when she had

00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:03.940
that blazer bathing suit that she wore yes yes

00:52:03.940 --> 00:52:08.300
um Then we meet Crystal, the experienced curator

00:52:08.300 --> 00:52:10.800
who's wearing a fun hat. And like, I know beyond

00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.300
a shadow of a doubt, she woke up that morning

00:52:13.300 --> 00:52:15.219
and she put that hat on and said, I'm going to

00:52:15.219 --> 00:52:18.840
be a star today. I'm going to be the runaway

00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.840
hit from this episode, giving a tour of this

00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.320
rental house. God, I love Crystal, the experienced

00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:31.159
curator. Yeah. So they do like a, you know. sponsored

00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:33.900
content ad for the for the house they're staying

00:52:33.900 --> 00:52:37.860
in and like the company that manages it and this

00:52:37.860 --> 00:52:39.840
this woman walking around going there there's

00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.059
really not a house like a single family home

00:52:42.059 --> 00:52:45.320
like this in dale and i'm like yeah yes there

00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.599
is i mean it looks like the one next to it looks

00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.159
very similar and they're all like big sort of

00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.920
flashy houses in a ski rich ski town right yes

00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.079
i'm like it's a ski resort town like the village

00:52:57.079 --> 00:52:59.179
is nothing but mcmansions like don't do that

00:53:00.250 --> 00:53:04.070
It's okay. Don't lie to us, girl. Yeah. I think

00:53:04.070 --> 00:53:05.949
she's lying to herself more than anything, but

00:53:05.949 --> 00:53:09.349
that's okay. Right, true. We cut back to the

00:53:09.349 --> 00:53:11.889
trip. Heather checks to see if Janice texted

00:53:11.889 --> 00:53:14.409
her back, and it would appear that everyone has

00:53:14.409 --> 00:53:16.989
accepted what happened, except for Heather, who's,

00:53:16.989 --> 00:53:19.650
like, waiting to, like... And, like, they're

00:53:19.650 --> 00:53:21.969
on some level, I can respect, like, wanting everything

00:53:21.969 --> 00:53:26.690
to be okay. But at the same time, I'm like, are

00:53:26.690 --> 00:53:29.739
you okay? Right. Like, this is the same girl

00:53:29.739 --> 00:53:31.340
that's going to, like, cover for Jen when she

00:53:31.340 --> 00:53:33.800
gets her black eye. Like, where it's like, you're

00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:35.840
putting too much faith in this person. Like,

00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:40.980
what are we doing? Yes. And then Lisa goes on

00:53:40.980 --> 00:53:43.280
to say she didn't believe Jen from the jump because

00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.760
no one acts like that. And she says that she's

00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:48.599
pretty pragmatic. And I don't know that Lisa

00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:52.300
Marlowe understands what that word means. That's

00:53:52.300 --> 00:53:57.190
true. That's the last word I would use to describe

00:53:57.190 --> 00:54:03.969
Lisa Barlow. And then Lisa gets back on the phone

00:54:03.969 --> 00:54:06.869
with JV husband boss and says, and this is where

00:54:06.869 --> 00:54:09.570
I did the same thing you did where I paid really

00:54:09.570 --> 00:54:12.449
close attention after some recent stuff has come

00:54:12.449 --> 00:54:15.710
out. But she's like, Tony K and Ryan, two of

00:54:15.710 --> 00:54:17.550
the six lawyers, told her not to talk to any

00:54:17.550 --> 00:54:19.610
law enforcement without them there. And then

00:54:19.610 --> 00:54:21.789
she covers her mouth and does the, I think Meredith

00:54:21.789 --> 00:54:26.179
might know something. And I'm like, is she just

00:54:26.179 --> 00:54:28.119
trying to throw us off her scent? Because she

00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.559
seems to know the most about this. Or like, I

00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:35.760
don't know. I don't know. Right. And the women

00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:37.679
start speculating about Jen's lifestyle and the

00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:39.400
cash flow and like what the businesses actually

00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:43.650
are. and like Lisa has been like she's always

00:54:43.650 --> 00:54:45.670
been ambiguous and Whitney's like I've always

00:54:45.670 --> 00:54:48.369
wondered and Whitney all of a sudden turns into

00:54:48.369 --> 00:54:52.650
our like you know Nancy Drainer yeah where she's

00:54:52.650 --> 00:54:54.750
and she's like teaching us how lead nurturing

00:54:54.750 --> 00:54:58.190
works and like selling leads and she's you know

00:54:58.190 --> 00:55:00.409
she Whitney has basically said I always wonder

00:55:00.409 --> 00:55:02.550
how she had the amount of money she did she was

00:55:02.550 --> 00:55:06.530
doing like legal lead generation because it's

00:55:06.530 --> 00:55:10.480
not like that lucrative no it's Not at all. But

00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:12.739
like the funniest thing in this moment was Whitney

00:55:12.739 --> 00:55:15.519
going, how does she get her money? Like I thought

00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.699
everything that comes out of her mouth is like,

00:55:17.699 --> 00:55:21.420
it's comedy gold to me. She's so sweet. I love

00:55:21.420 --> 00:55:25.519
her so much. Oh, but so then the bus makes a

00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:28.460
stop and Whitney and Heather are on the bus talking

00:55:28.460 --> 00:55:32.619
about how Lisa's acting. And the way Heather

00:55:32.619 --> 00:55:34.219
was so quick to say, if she knows something,

00:55:34.260 --> 00:55:36.840
that means she's implicated. Like everyone knows

00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:38.710
there's something shady going on. like right

00:55:38.710 --> 00:55:41.590
everyone knows it yeah they're not saying it

00:55:41.590 --> 00:55:45.530
like yeah i want them to dig into this like in

00:55:45.530 --> 00:55:48.429
this like i feel like someday something's gonna

00:55:48.429 --> 00:55:52.730
come out about all of it but like like did someone

00:55:52.730 --> 00:55:55.769
on the cast talk to the feds because like lisa

00:55:55.769 --> 00:55:58.409
keeps saying like someone tip them off someone

00:55:58.409 --> 00:56:00.610
tip them off and that get that makes whitney

00:56:00.610 --> 00:56:02.550
and heather be like did she tip them off why

00:56:02.550 --> 00:56:05.329
does she keep saying that like right or like

00:56:05.329 --> 00:56:08.170
well and then like how did they know yeah How

00:56:08.170 --> 00:56:11.030
did they know to find her there? Like, did someone

00:56:11.030 --> 00:56:14.090
on production, like, say something? And it's

00:56:14.090 --> 00:56:16.710
like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

00:56:16.710 --> 00:56:18.369
But I'm desperate to know. Like, this is like,

00:56:18.469 --> 00:56:20.889
I love The Housewives more than anything. But

00:56:20.889 --> 00:56:23.630
what I love more is, like, the messy, like, it's

00:56:23.630 --> 00:56:25.710
like, I want to know who turned Teresa and Jo

00:56:25.710 --> 00:56:28.690
in. I want to dig into that. Because they say

00:56:28.690 --> 00:56:32.440
they all know. Right, yeah. And, like, people,

00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:35.199
like, friendships have, like, been built and

00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:37.860
fallen on this supposed information that, like,

00:56:37.860 --> 00:56:41.280
we just will never know. Yeah. Well, and, like,

00:56:41.579 --> 00:56:44.659
Jersey's a whole other beast, but, like, the

00:56:44.659 --> 00:56:46.480
fact that Caroline Manzo can be like, yeah, I

00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:48.139
was in the room when it happened, and I'm like,

00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:51.219
tell me everything! I know, I know. Caroline,

00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:56.780
she shocks me. there's well there's a lot there

00:56:56.780 --> 00:56:59.099
to be shocked about but like that's neither here

00:56:59.099 --> 00:57:02.980
nor there so we're back on the bus yeah um lisa

00:57:02.980 --> 00:57:07.360
goes today's a lot like and then whitney sees

00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:11.159
the news oh i love whitney oh my gosh oh my gosh

00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:16.139
oh my gosh oh my gosh so i love that she says

00:57:16.139 --> 00:57:18.260
gosh the whole time she's just a little sweetie

00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.519
I do, too. Like, that's like, I specifically

00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:25.099
was like, oh, she says gosh. She's still not

00:57:25.099 --> 00:57:27.380
taking the Lord's name in vain. Yep, she was

00:57:27.380 --> 00:57:31.519
raised good Mormon girl. Yeah. And then we get

00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:36.639
the headline. Yeah, Real Housewives star. Go

00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:39.900
ahead. You go for it. Okay. Real Housewives star

00:57:39.900 --> 00:57:43.039
charged in massive fraud money laundering scheme.

00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:47.010
I had the fucking chills. Yeah, they're all shocked.

00:57:47.789 --> 00:57:51.170
Lisa immediately starts crying for Stu. And she's

00:57:51.170 --> 00:57:53.269
like, I feel so bad. I feel so bad for him. And

00:57:53.269 --> 00:57:58.309
I feel so bad for their families. And Lisa's

00:57:58.309 --> 00:58:00.670
always like a robot crying. I honestly feel so

00:58:00.670 --> 00:58:03.570
bad. I feel, I honestly feel so bad. I'm like,

00:58:03.570 --> 00:58:05.510
who are you trying to prove it to? It's okay.

00:58:05.949 --> 00:58:09.929
It's okay. We believe you. Yes, I feel bad for

00:58:09.929 --> 00:58:15.130
them too. And then Heather. heather's like moved

00:58:15.130 --> 00:58:18.090
like so deeply and then we get a shot over to

00:58:18.090 --> 00:58:20.829
jenny who's literally drinking a beer and going

00:58:20.829 --> 00:58:24.690
yeah i don't have the tax i don't know yeah yeah

00:58:24.690 --> 00:58:27.650
and like they they are all just like on their

00:58:27.650 --> 00:58:30.170
phones and like they all are like weeping this

00:58:30.170 --> 00:58:32.429
is like a scene out of like checkoff or something

00:58:32.429 --> 00:58:35.769
all this like just the mood shifts instantly

00:58:35.769 --> 00:58:39.070
they're all weeping and sobbing with like open

00:58:39.070 --> 00:58:43.239
bags of cheetos next to them And they're reading

00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:46.360
aloud to each other. Like, she and Stuart charged

00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:48.599
with money laundering and fraud. Like, they're

00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:53.760
in custody. And then Lisa's like, should we go

00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:56.179
back? Should we turn around? And Whitney's smiling

00:58:56.179 --> 00:58:59.079
ear to ear and goes, babe, she's in custody.

00:58:59.219 --> 00:59:01.260
She's been arrested. This is the best day of

00:59:01.260 --> 00:59:03.980
Whitney's life. Yeah. And then Whitney is later,

00:59:04.139 --> 00:59:07.900
she's cradling Lisa and Heather under both her

00:59:07.900 --> 00:59:10.840
arms on either side. They're on her bosom crying.

00:59:11.019 --> 00:59:14.900
And I'm like, Whitney is thriving with this news.

00:59:16.059 --> 00:59:18.559
Whitney is in her element. And then we get a

00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:22.010
cutaway of... I think she tells Lisa, I just

00:59:22.010 --> 00:59:23.949
thought she had a sugar daddy or something. And

00:59:23.949 --> 00:59:25.809
then we immediately get the confessional of going,

00:59:25.949 --> 00:59:28.369
I had a sugar daddy. And I'm like, fuck yeah,

00:59:28.409 --> 00:59:31.210
Whitney. Fuck yeah. Yeah, I love Whitney. Yeah,

00:59:31.230 --> 00:59:35.469
you're such a sugar daddy. God, it's so good.

00:59:36.190 --> 00:59:38.809
And then they're like reading through the article

00:59:38.809 --> 00:59:41.110
and Lisa's like up to 30 years. And Heather,

00:59:41.269 --> 00:59:44.630
like that was the break. She goes up to 30 years.

00:59:45.050 --> 00:59:49.349
It's a real crime, guys. Like it bad. And she's,

00:59:49.369 --> 00:59:53.369
like, unwell. And, like, she's, like, she's in

00:59:53.369 --> 00:59:55.590
a place of, like, hood up and, like, laying on

00:59:55.590 --> 00:59:57.929
Whitney's lap. And, like, she's, like, not okay.

00:59:58.429 --> 01:00:01.349
And, like, I know there's a lot of room for criticism

01:00:01.349 --> 01:00:05.409
of, like, the toxicity of Heather and Jen's relationship.

01:00:05.510 --> 01:00:09.449
But, like, I truly believe this reaction is coming

01:00:09.449 --> 01:00:12.840
from a place of, like... caring deeply about

01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.039
jen and not wanting anything bad to happen to

01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:16.960
her and like she doesn't know how to reconcile

01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:20.619
this yeah no she's having a real hard time yeah

01:00:20.619 --> 01:00:25.559
yes and then we get a clip of the ring doorbell

01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:28.099
footage with omar coming out with his hands up

01:00:28.099 --> 01:00:30.480
and like i remember seeing this and being upset

01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:33.840
about it i didn't think i'd be triggered by it

01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:36.239
again but i was like i felt bad for those kids

01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:40.719
because like i can't remember yeah And, like,

01:00:40.739 --> 01:00:43.239
I don't think we ever found out what happened

01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:46.539
directly involving Omar. And, like, because there

01:00:46.539 --> 01:00:50.860
was a cousin in the house, too. Right. I, like,

01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:54.239
I want someone, I hope someone, like, showed

01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:56.500
up, like, Jen's mom or someone that was, like,

01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:58.219
I'm going to take the kids. They don't need to

01:00:58.219 --> 01:00:59.480
be involved in this. Because, like, that was

01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:02.179
really upsetting to me. No. And it's just so

01:01:02.179 --> 01:01:05.079
scary. Like, especially, I think that was still,

01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:09.219
like. kind of early COVID days or like not too

01:01:09.219 --> 01:01:11.940
far into it. And like, we've just had these black

01:01:11.940 --> 01:01:15.059
lives matter protesters and, or protests. And

01:01:15.059 --> 01:01:18.579
we see these like young black boys being like

01:01:18.579 --> 01:01:21.500
run out of their house with men with like machine

01:01:21.500 --> 01:01:25.260
guns or with like men with like rifles and their

01:01:25.260 --> 01:01:27.179
hands above their head. And it's just so, your

01:01:27.179 --> 01:01:30.699
heart just breaks for these poor. like kids who

01:01:30.699 --> 01:01:33.659
have no idea what their that their mom is buying

01:01:33.659 --> 01:01:38.119
fucking leads leads of vulnerable people and

01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:39.820
tricking them into like buying a product that

01:01:39.820 --> 01:01:43.260
doesn't exist like i feel yeah they don't deserve

01:01:43.260 --> 01:01:45.920
that and you have to put yourself in the mindset

01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:49.500
of like what like first of all cops show up at

01:01:49.500 --> 01:01:51.179
your house that's jarring to begin with and then

01:01:51.179 --> 01:01:52.840
it's like what are you talking about my mom like

01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.519
what do you say and then it's like i don't i

01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:59.530
can't think of any other instance where you have

01:01:59.530 --> 01:02:02.389
someone that has done a crime and then the family

01:02:02.389 --> 01:02:05.849
is taken out like like i just i the whole thing

01:02:05.849 --> 01:02:08.869
felt off to me and i didn't like it right at

01:02:08.869 --> 01:02:12.849
all like i felt bad for those kids but yeah then

01:02:12.849 --> 01:02:15.349
production shows up at the house and like i can't

01:02:15.349 --> 01:02:17.610
imagine what that chaos was like because like

01:02:17.610 --> 01:02:20.170
you see like the cops pulling up and like you

01:02:20.170 --> 01:02:22.130
see the cop cars and then like yeah all these

01:02:22.130 --> 01:02:26.539
like trucks in the driveway and yeah and i'm

01:02:26.539 --> 01:02:30.599
like and like the the producer's like hey what's

01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:34.159
going on like yeah like okay and then like i

01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:36.860
i make a tv show here like can you tell me what's

01:02:36.860 --> 01:02:40.280
happening yeah and then the cops like you can

01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:46.219
talk to mr shot like yeah so yeah um we're back

01:02:46.219 --> 01:02:48.619
on the bus lisa decides to facetime meredith

01:02:48.619 --> 01:02:52.449
and right right Back to this lifestyle of Meredith

01:02:52.449 --> 01:02:54.489
where she's hanging up clothes in this closet,

01:02:54.650 --> 01:02:57.190
making herself a home. She's an absolute queen.

01:02:57.650 --> 01:03:01.670
And, like, she answers the FaceTime. And Lisa

01:03:01.670 --> 01:03:04.050
just goes, it's bad, Meredith. It's really bad.

01:03:04.289 --> 01:03:08.150
And Meredith is like, what's bad, Lisa? This

01:03:08.150 --> 01:03:12.329
house is amazing. I love it. Yeah. That was more

01:03:12.329 --> 01:03:14.150
Lisa. But, like, you're going to love this house.

01:03:14.269 --> 01:03:18.530
It's so great. And then this is brand new information.

01:03:19.659 --> 01:03:22.460
To Meredith like with what's going on and I just

01:03:22.460 --> 01:03:24.840
want to take a second here. You're telling me

01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:30.880
like you expect me to believe that This production

01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:34.179
was going on and no one from the bus or from

01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:37.820
back in salt lake city called like holy shit

01:03:37.820 --> 01:03:41.460
there's a swat team at our at our site what what's

01:03:41.460 --> 01:03:44.079
up with you like keep an eye out in denver they

01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:46.599
might be up there in a minute yeah like yeah

01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:49.300
heads up yeah i'm sure there was communication

01:03:49.300 --> 01:03:54.539
and then like but whatever we're expected to

01:03:54.539 --> 01:03:56.820
believe that meredith didn't know god bless okay

01:03:56.820 --> 01:04:01.000
yeah and meredith but even though it's completely

01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:06.239
new information meredith's like okay Yeah. Uh

01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:09.920
-huh. Yeah. She's always seemed a little sus.

01:04:10.300 --> 01:04:18.360
She did fraud. I'll buy it. Unphased. Yeah. And

01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:24.360
then we get the confessional where she goes,

01:04:24.500 --> 01:04:27.179
yeah, to find out someone in your friend group

01:04:27.179 --> 01:04:30.460
is being arrested by federal agents in the beauty

01:04:30.460 --> 01:04:33.050
lab and laser parking lot. That's shocking. And

01:04:33.050 --> 01:04:42.789
just smiles. Yeah. She's so. So. Meredith has

01:04:42.789 --> 01:04:45.510
always been like a riddle to me. She's my queen.

01:04:45.650 --> 01:04:48.070
I don't need her to be anything other than exactly

01:04:48.070 --> 01:04:52.329
who she is. Right. She doesn't give much. Except

01:04:52.329 --> 01:04:56.469
like subtle hints and clues. Almost. To figure

01:04:56.469 --> 01:05:04.280
her out. But then. she she laughs and she and

01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:06.500
then she goes while everything else is falling

01:05:06.500 --> 01:05:08.440
apart around us we do have a beautiful house

01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:10.820
here but i love you and just like gets off the

01:05:10.820 --> 01:05:14.920
phone see you later i'm gonna enjoy the house

01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:17.840
well and then they like go back to the bus and

01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:21.340
lisa says that she thinks meredith knows what

01:05:21.340 --> 01:05:24.460
what she's letting on and i wholeheartedly believe

01:05:24.460 --> 01:05:27.739
lisa knew something in this moment and she was

01:05:27.739 --> 01:05:29.460
like saying that to throw everyone off of her

01:05:29.460 --> 01:05:31.880
trail because i'm like yeah i kind of wonder

01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:37.539
yeah but then they get the news that jen was

01:05:37.539 --> 01:05:39.739
let out like while she's waiting for trial and

01:05:39.739 --> 01:05:44.260
uh they start getting into the concept of wait

01:05:44.260 --> 01:05:46.039
hang on i skipped a stop in my notes okay so

01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:48.699
they like they find out she's released and then

01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:51.980
They start getting into the concept of like money

01:05:51.980 --> 01:05:53.820
and like what's going on. And Whitney explains

01:05:53.820 --> 01:05:57.219
that you can dump cash into a startup for five

01:05:57.219 --> 01:05:59.139
years and claim losses up to a million dollars.

01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:02.440
And this is a fun tax strategy that I've seen

01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:04.820
several times during my time working in finance.

01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:09.760
Really? Oh, yeah. People love to claim a loss

01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:12.199
like when they have a ton of money. But I know

01:06:12.199 --> 01:06:13.679
this is something Whitney and Justin did because

01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:17.210
you don't just know about this. So I'm like,

01:06:17.210 --> 01:06:19.030
Whitney knows about this because she's done it,

01:06:19.050 --> 01:06:22.489
right? 100%. 100%. Yeah, she's like, you can

01:06:22.489 --> 01:06:24.769
claim a loss for like five years. So you can

01:06:24.769 --> 01:06:27.670
just pour whatever money you want in and claim

01:06:27.670 --> 01:06:31.190
its capital. And like, you're good to go. And

01:06:31.190 --> 01:06:33.590
the five years is an interesting number that

01:06:33.590 --> 01:06:35.130
she threw out there. Because I'm like, oh, you

01:06:35.130 --> 01:06:37.170
know about where they start to track it, where

01:06:37.170 --> 01:06:39.670
they start auditing. That's interesting to me.

01:06:40.369 --> 01:06:44.130
Anyway, then Jenny's going, well, that's capital.

01:06:44.210 --> 01:06:46.670
That's capital. And I was like, shut up. i hate

01:06:46.670 --> 01:06:52.329
you shut up stop talking you don't get to be

01:06:52.329 --> 01:06:57.449
part of this no one cares oh god and then uh

01:06:57.449 --> 01:06:59.869
we get back to the house mary shows up to the

01:06:59.869 --> 01:07:03.809
house and like watching mary do literally anything

01:07:03.809 --> 01:07:08.010
is is just it's like watching it's like watching

01:07:08.010 --> 01:07:10.269
a scene unfold that i i never know what's gonna

01:07:10.269 --> 01:07:12.869
happen and she's so funny to me she's like watching

01:07:12.869 --> 01:07:16.809
a bird learn how to fly like every scene or you're

01:07:16.809 --> 01:07:19.309
like i'm worried has she done this before interacted

01:07:19.309 --> 01:07:21.849
in this way or had a conversation like is she

01:07:21.849 --> 01:07:27.369
okay is she gonna break her wing like she gets

01:07:27.369 --> 01:07:29.610
there and meredith's just luxuriating in the

01:07:29.610 --> 01:07:32.750
bath and i'm like god yeah and like this is the

01:07:32.750 --> 01:07:35.690
this is like the tub scene where she like starts

01:07:35.690 --> 01:07:38.449
to be like part of my brand is always tubs and

01:07:38.449 --> 01:07:42.030
like it never stops like it's she's just in the

01:07:42.030 --> 01:07:44.670
tub like for four hours she's in the bath no

01:07:44.670 --> 01:07:48.250
and she really makes a choice to stay and and

01:07:48.250 --> 01:07:51.010
mary sweet mary loves her etiquette and she's

01:07:51.010 --> 01:07:52.969
like i think it's proper etiquette to meet people

01:07:52.969 --> 01:07:59.340
dressed like maybe maybe we don't dive too deep

01:07:59.340 --> 01:08:03.780
into what's proper mary but yeah yeah um but

01:08:03.780 --> 01:08:05.820
then they start to like unpack everything and

01:08:05.820 --> 01:08:10.380
mary's speechless and she goes i had no idea

01:08:10.380 --> 01:08:13.380
and then meredith basically goes you didn't like

01:08:13.380 --> 01:08:15.940
right let's go we're all gonna play dumb here

01:08:15.940 --> 01:08:21.149
yeah and then i know at this time and like i

01:08:21.149 --> 01:08:22.909
think they get into it later in the season but

01:08:22.909 --> 01:08:24.630
they start there's a lot of speculation that

01:08:24.630 --> 01:08:26.590
mary was somehow involved in like being the rat

01:08:26.590 --> 01:08:29.750
and like what i do know about mary to be the

01:08:29.750 --> 01:08:32.210
truth is that she's the last person that wants

01:08:32.210 --> 01:08:35.510
cops like asking questions or like poking around

01:08:35.510 --> 01:08:37.550
yeah i was gonna say mary's not gonna rat like

01:08:37.550 --> 01:08:41.770
i i trust mary to like stay quiet yeah like i

01:08:41.770 --> 01:08:45.470
trust like as far as like not that she's in the

01:08:45.470 --> 01:08:47.470
mafia but like i trust mary the same way i would

01:08:47.470 --> 01:08:49.409
trust someone in the mafia with my life i'm like

01:08:49.409 --> 01:08:52.630
she's a locked box once you give her information

01:08:52.630 --> 01:08:54.810
and tell her not to share it like yeah right

01:08:54.810 --> 01:09:00.810
um and then i just realized i like missed a spot

01:09:00.810 --> 01:09:03.010
while i was shaving and like this is like i see

01:09:03.010 --> 01:09:07.989
it like oh i didn't really notice oh no it's

01:09:07.989 --> 01:09:10.449
okay it's cool like this is like my first time

01:09:10.449 --> 01:09:12.229
doing videos so anyone that sees it i'll be like

01:09:12.229 --> 01:09:15.520
i didn't know it's fine it's all good it's cool

01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:19.939
i'll just like turn this way um and then what

01:09:19.939 --> 01:09:23.239
happens next so all the women they also established

01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:25.279
i like that they're they're realizing like this

01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:27.560
must have been a longer term investigation if

01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.739
like the fbi was there like this wasn't a like

01:09:30.739 --> 01:09:33.560
like on a whim whatever it's like this has been

01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:36.060
like a year in the making or something or more

01:09:36.060 --> 01:09:39.560
and it's It's funny because I remember like Mary

01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:41.479
saying something like the FBI doesn't show up

01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:43.060
unless there's facts. And I'm like, well, I'm

01:09:43.060 --> 01:09:44.659
glad she didn't say that. Well, Kash Patel was

01:09:44.659 --> 01:09:49.720
in charge of it. Oh, yeah, exactly. And I do

01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:51.720
like that throughout this scene, Meredith's bubbles

01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:54.319
are going away and she's just sinking lower and

01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:57.000
lower into the tub, like sort of covering herself

01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:02.060
more and more. I'm like, it was a cute idea at

01:10:02.060 --> 01:10:05.750
first, huh, Meredith? And then they're like,

01:10:05.810 --> 01:10:07.350
well, I'm going to go get changed. I'm going

01:10:07.350 --> 01:10:09.430
to go get dressed. Like, you go get your room,

01:10:09.510 --> 01:10:12.590
Mary. And like, I'll get dressed for when the

01:10:12.590 --> 01:10:14.630
other ladies come. But instead of getting dressed,

01:10:14.789 --> 01:10:17.989
they cut to Meredith pouring more bubbles into

01:10:17.989 --> 01:10:20.229
the bath and refilling it. Where I'm like, oh,

01:10:20.270 --> 01:10:22.470
she wants to be in the tub for their arrival,

01:10:22.489 --> 01:10:24.909
too. This is like a stunt that she thinks is

01:10:24.909 --> 01:10:27.670
adorable or something. Let me explain something

01:10:27.670 --> 01:10:30.130
to you in no uncertain terms. If I show up, I

01:10:30.130 --> 01:10:32.489
want Meredith in a bathtub. That's what I want.

01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:35.399
Like that's, I need that. Right. She was like,

01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:38.979
I liked this entrance. Let's do it again. I loved

01:10:38.979 --> 01:10:43.100
her commitment to the bed. So then of course

01:10:43.100 --> 01:10:45.699
the ladies come and also find her in the tub,

01:10:45.739 --> 01:10:51.600
just like with Mary. God, I love it. And I mean,

01:10:51.619 --> 01:10:55.029
she was in there for hours and. It never got

01:10:55.029 --> 01:10:58.609
old. You know she was a little prune, but she

01:10:58.609 --> 01:11:02.689
didn't care because she is now being in a tub

01:11:02.689 --> 01:11:09.729
as part of her brand. Everyone knows baths are

01:11:09.729 --> 01:11:14.609
my thing. Well, now we do. Now you can't give

01:11:14.609 --> 01:11:19.470
her a room without a fucking tub in it. No. So

01:11:19.470 --> 01:11:21.470
we get clips of everyone calling their respective

01:11:21.470 --> 01:11:24.779
husbands and we find out. John Barlow tries to

01:11:24.779 --> 01:11:26.859
reach out to Sharif and never heard anything

01:11:26.859 --> 01:11:30.300
back. And I'm like, obviously, obviously you

01:11:30.300 --> 01:11:33.720
never heard anything back, but he's either internally

01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.479
bleeding or dealing with his wife being in custody.

01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:38.920
Yeah. And like, I don't know what John would

01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:40.960
have texted him to be like, Hey, heard your,

01:11:40.979 --> 01:11:44.899
heard your bleeding. Also the cops are looking

01:11:44.899 --> 01:11:50.100
for your wife. Yeah. Maybe we. let them deal

01:11:50.100 --> 01:11:52.060
with that and then we like circle back i don't

01:11:52.060 --> 01:11:57.260
know um so crystal and her hat are getting the

01:11:57.260 --> 01:11:59.300
dining room ready for the ladies love her so

01:11:59.300 --> 01:12:04.619
much and then we like mary comes up and like

01:12:04.619 --> 01:12:06.439
sees that jenny's there and she goes i forgot

01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:08.319
jenny was even going to be here and she hates

01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:12.720
her so much she hates her so much the language

01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:16.180
she used that she like told mary what to do like

01:12:16.180 --> 01:12:23.090
no she did not like her god and like i hate that

01:12:23.090 --> 01:12:25.710
i also hate jenny because like mary hates jenny

01:12:25.710 --> 01:12:28.329
for very different reasons mary hates jenny because

01:12:28.329 --> 01:12:33.229
because because of the accent and because of

01:12:33.229 --> 01:12:36.750
like because she swore and like got some attention

01:12:36.750 --> 01:12:42.350
when she first got there like yeah but um i also

01:12:42.350 --> 01:12:43.930
feel like the food on salt lake city looks so

01:12:43.930 --> 01:12:47.729
good like every time They always look like they

01:12:47.729 --> 01:12:50.250
have, like, good American food. Like, you know,

01:12:50.289 --> 01:12:52.270
American fusion. Like, it always looks good.

01:12:52.970 --> 01:12:54.670
It's the same thing on Secret Lives of Mormon

01:12:54.670 --> 01:12:56.890
Wives. Like, I think that, like, Utah is just,

01:12:56.949 --> 01:12:59.750
like, a food destination in my mind at this point

01:12:59.750 --> 01:13:01.630
because it all looks so good. No, it does all

01:13:01.630 --> 01:13:03.829
look good. You're right. Yeah. And, like, now

01:13:03.829 --> 01:13:06.550
I want dirty sodas and I've never had one. Like,

01:13:06.630 --> 01:13:09.890
what's happening? Oh, they opened Swigs in Indy.

01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:13.880
I feel like they have one here in New York, too.

01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:17.180
And I've been like, I should go. Go. I'm telling

01:13:17.180 --> 01:13:18.779
you right now, go. It will change your life.

01:13:19.539 --> 01:13:24.819
Yeah, I'm curious. I'm very curious. So they're

01:13:24.819 --> 01:13:28.359
all sitting down. Mary says that Jen's arrest

01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:30.260
makes her feel a lot of emotion and that she

01:13:30.260 --> 01:13:35.180
doesn't celebrate people's pain. And if you sat

01:13:35.180 --> 01:13:38.359
me down in front of Mary and you... like you're

01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:40.239
you're gonna tell me right now that like she's

01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:42.479
not thinking this is what you get for the grandpa

01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:44.720
fucker comment like that there's no way yeah

01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:50.560
that's true totally totally yeah and then meredith

01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:53.319
like it's it's quiet for a second meredith goes

01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:55.460
so what's everyone thinking and heather goes

01:13:55.460 --> 01:13:57.460
this is the moment i've been waiting for and

01:13:57.460 --> 01:13:59.880
i was like heather is me and i am heather i know

01:13:59.880 --> 01:14:02.060
that's what he heather really is our audience

01:14:02.060 --> 01:14:04.439
proxy when she's like finally we're getting into

01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:09.800
it Oh, God. And then we find out that, like,

01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:12.819
Jen was running from the cops and got pulled

01:14:12.819 --> 01:14:15.420
over and arrested on the side of the road. And

01:14:15.420 --> 01:14:18.920
they start unpacking a lot of their feelings

01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:22.659
about the charges. So, like, we know she got

01:14:22.659 --> 01:14:24.260
arrested. That's, like, one thing. And then we

01:14:24.260 --> 01:14:26.380
go one level deeper, and it's like, what was

01:14:26.380 --> 01:14:29.319
she doing? She was arrested for, like, taking

01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:32.380
advantage of, like, old and vulnerable people.

01:14:32.619 --> 01:14:36.609
And then we start. being like ew that's gross

01:14:36.609 --> 01:14:40.270
like yes which is valid it's valid and fair that

01:14:40.270 --> 01:14:42.369
like we feel that's gross like there's there's

01:14:42.369 --> 01:14:44.949
nothing else to say about yeah yeah mary feels

01:14:44.949 --> 01:14:48.210
betrayed like i don't blame her yeah this woman

01:14:48.210 --> 01:14:50.130
acted like she was a legitimate business woman

01:14:50.130 --> 01:14:53.569
right but then meredith goes into pasture mode

01:14:53.569 --> 01:14:56.149
and says i feel like she's reaping i believe

01:14:56.149 --> 01:15:00.369
that or i believe what a man soweth that he shall

01:15:00.369 --> 01:15:04.109
reap and i was like oh that's like the church

01:15:04.109 --> 01:15:06.989
i grew up in like that oh yeah yeah not good

01:15:06.989 --> 01:15:11.689
but but like she's not wrong and um then she

01:15:11.689 --> 01:15:14.090
starts to say like i she never saw anything good

01:15:14.090 --> 01:15:16.010
in jen she was scared of her because she knew

01:15:16.010 --> 01:15:21.789
what she was capable of and i i i don't know

01:15:21.789 --> 01:15:25.789
i'm like i don't know i i i see her point and

01:15:25.789 --> 01:15:30.539
i agree i also just i don't know i just want

01:15:30.539 --> 01:15:33.840
it to not be true about i about her i want it

01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:37.279
to not be true but like at the same time i wonder

01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:39.359
if everyone was it like actually in such a state

01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:41.359
of shock because they were like we know something

01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:43.699
shady is going on here we know like it's probably

01:15:43.699 --> 01:15:45.939
a situation i don't think anyone could have ever

01:15:45.939 --> 01:15:48.000
imagined it was as bad as it like ended up being

01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:53.439
yeah it was bad yeah um but then we get the story

01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:56.000
about jen and the shawshad going into merida's

01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:00.789
boutique and Monica Garcia was there and oh my

01:16:00.789 --> 01:16:03.630
gosh I forgot Monica was part of that yeah yes

01:16:03.630 --> 01:16:05.850
but yeah and Meredith's like you know I have

01:16:05.850 --> 01:16:09.090
had an issue with her before that was like weirded

01:16:09.090 --> 01:16:12.739
out by And yeah, she like said she missed a bunch

01:16:12.739 --> 01:16:14.779
of calls from Jen when she was in New York. And

01:16:14.779 --> 01:16:17.520
like Jen wanted to get into Meredith's store.

01:16:17.939 --> 01:16:20.840
So Meredith had them like open it up for her.

01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:24.659
And then she checks in with her staff afterwards.

01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:26.560
And they're like, yeah, she like bought a few

01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:29.220
hundred bucks worth of stuff. But also this green

01:16:29.220 --> 01:16:32.000
clutch that one of her friends picked up is missing

01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:37.000
now. And it seems as though one of Jen's Shaw

01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:40.770
squad stole a purse. right and then like i also

01:16:40.770 --> 01:16:43.869
love the cutaway where uh i think it was lisa

01:16:43.869 --> 01:16:46.489
was like what which clutch hang on which clutch

01:16:46.489 --> 01:16:48.390
and like they have like a whole like it was like

01:16:48.390 --> 01:16:51.130
the snake skin green little snake skin i had

01:16:51.130 --> 01:16:54.850
that but i have so many questions about that

01:16:54.850 --> 01:16:57.270
very specific moment where it's like i and i

01:16:57.270 --> 01:16:59.069
never i don't think we ever get confirmation

01:16:59.069 --> 01:17:02.050
to this but i i it was the same build as the

01:17:02.050 --> 01:17:05.380
guy that was like helping her uh get ready in

01:17:05.380 --> 01:17:10.180
her closet marula or marillo yeah yeah i'm pretty

01:17:10.180 --> 01:17:13.840
sure it was him but like i have a lot of questions

01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:15.600
about like okay so you bought hundreds of dollars

01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:19.739
worth of stuff what why was the bag taken like

01:17:19.739 --> 01:17:22.039
was it actually an accident like i i just have

01:17:22.039 --> 01:17:25.239
a lot of questions about that yeah and like meredith

01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:27.260
basically seems to let her off the hook and be

01:17:27.260 --> 01:17:29.500
like did you borrow a bag too and then the guy

01:17:29.500 --> 01:17:32.579
brings it back the next day right and it's like

01:17:32.579 --> 01:17:35.560
so it what was this was this just a rogue guy

01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:39.000
who like likes to shoplift like maybe and like

01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:41.039
because that is a thing like kleptomania is the

01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:44.680
real things i i don't know but then we find out

01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:46.539
that jen's red flagged in the system at louis

01:17:46.539 --> 01:17:49.560
vuitton because she pays in cash and i asked

01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:51.260
one of my friends that works at louis vuitton

01:17:51.260 --> 01:17:54.340
if this is a real thing and she was like it is

01:17:54.340 --> 01:17:57.479
so rare that we have to do it but there are like

01:17:57.479 --> 01:18:00.359
very specific cases in which it happens so like

01:18:02.470 --> 01:18:04.810
I was like, oh, I thought Meredith was just talking

01:18:04.810 --> 01:18:07.829
out of her ass, but that's wild. If you make

01:18:07.829 --> 01:18:10.689
a lot of big purchases in all cash, people do

01:18:10.689 --> 01:18:14.409
get a little suspicious. Well, it's the big cash

01:18:14.409 --> 01:18:17.170
purchases and then it's returning them. That's

01:18:17.170 --> 01:18:21.430
the big red flag. Very interesting. Yeah. Yes.

01:18:21.670 --> 01:18:25.710
And then Lisa says that being red flagged at

01:18:25.710 --> 01:18:27.489
Louis Vuitton would be far worse than the Fed

01:18:27.489 --> 01:18:31.640
showing up at her door. Please, girl. No, it

01:18:31.640 --> 01:18:35.319
would not. Okay, Lisa. Let's be real. I'm like,

01:18:35.380 --> 01:18:38.739
this thing that you need to do, like, okay, whatever

01:18:38.739 --> 01:18:42.159
you say. Yeah, just like, just eating Wendy's

01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:46.380
and shopping at Louis Vuitton, damn it. Anyway.

01:18:46.779 --> 01:18:53.869
Yeah. you know what like i'm not gonna attack

01:18:53.869 --> 01:18:56.029
baby gorgeous right now but like yes that's her

01:18:56.029 --> 01:18:58.390
entire shtick is the is the windies and then

01:18:58.390 --> 01:19:01.250
like having money like right yeah i'm like having

01:19:01.250 --> 01:19:03.270
a perfect family that she doesn't really share

01:19:03.270 --> 01:19:09.229
yeah it's i find her boring i'm not a baby gorgeous

01:19:09.229 --> 01:19:13.529
stan the way some people are the way i like i

01:19:13.529 --> 01:19:15.550
go back and forth so hard with her because i'm

01:19:15.550 --> 01:19:18.250
like she's entertaining but i don't love her

01:19:18.250 --> 01:19:21.329
yeah yeah she's hysterically entertaining but

01:19:21.329 --> 01:19:23.149
i'm like there are times where i'm like why are

01:19:23.149 --> 01:19:26.750
you like this like you need to be talked to yeah

01:19:26.750 --> 01:19:31.529
anyway yeah i don't know man um well and then

01:19:31.529 --> 01:19:34.949
heather says she has a story about jen being

01:19:34.949 --> 01:19:39.560
sketchy that the uber story yes where Where she's

01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:41.800
like, I, she was at my place and I got her an

01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:44.180
Uber home and I went to check to see if she made

01:19:44.180 --> 01:19:46.439
it home. And she like stopped the ride and got

01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:48.779
out at like an intersection, like a few blocks

01:19:48.779 --> 01:19:51.720
away or something after like five minutes. I

01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:53.859
have a lot of questions about this. And then

01:19:53.859 --> 01:19:56.260
Lisa wanted to know about it. Cause she was like,

01:19:56.340 --> 01:19:58.300
well, I wanted to know what, what day? Cause

01:19:58.300 --> 01:20:01.460
I want to, I want to ask someone if she was with

01:20:01.460 --> 01:20:04.699
them. And I'm like, does Lisa think that Jen

01:20:04.699 --> 01:20:07.600
Shaw was with like the guy she was rumored to

01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:11.560
like? give give head for jazz tickets for or

01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:13.960
something or like they have like a shared sugar

01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:17.180
daddy like I want to know why Lisa wanted to

01:20:17.180 --> 01:20:21.359
know what night what makes me even more angry

01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:24.319
because Lisa does this on a very consistent basis

01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:27.199
where it's I'm gonna let you know that I might

01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:29.500
know something and then I'm not yeah and then

01:20:29.500 --> 01:20:33.699
back off too much so furious yeah oh it's so

01:20:33.699 --> 01:20:37.789
annoying but I also why didn't Jen use her own

01:20:37.789 --> 01:20:39.689
uber app like that's something that like i've

01:20:39.689 --> 01:20:42.710
no one has ever been able to explain is like

01:20:42.710 --> 01:20:45.850
was she really drunk was that like i don't that's

01:20:45.850 --> 01:20:47.670
the only time someone's like gotten an uber for

01:20:47.670 --> 01:20:52.149
me like that like but like you would think if

01:20:52.149 --> 01:20:54.869
she was that wasted like i i would think heather

01:20:54.869 --> 01:20:56.310
would be like just spend the night here babe

01:20:56.310 --> 01:20:59.869
like yeah who knows that story feels off to me

01:21:00.350 --> 01:21:03.409
Right. It's just it's just that's where it left

01:21:03.409 --> 01:21:05.350
me with like more questions than I think had

01:21:05.350 --> 01:21:09.069
their thought that we would have. I think the

01:21:09.069 --> 01:21:12.329
whole this whole scenario leaves me with so many

01:21:12.329 --> 01:21:15.750
unanswered questions that like even after the

01:21:15.750 --> 01:21:17.510
trial, even after all of it, because like we

01:21:17.510 --> 01:21:19.550
never really got a trial. We had like all the

01:21:19.550 --> 01:21:21.829
pretrial hearings because like she was going

01:21:21.829 --> 01:21:24.649
to she was pleading innocent until the last minute

01:21:24.649 --> 01:21:27.170
and then finally struck a deal and pled guilty.

01:21:27.229 --> 01:21:30.979
Yes. It's like and I. I'm like we never got to

01:21:30.979 --> 01:21:33.539
uncover anything because what I'm assuming happened

01:21:33.539 --> 01:21:37.020
and I think they say this like right after the

01:21:37.020 --> 01:21:41.000
trial like or after the guilty plea is there

01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:42.539
had like when they were going through the pre

01:21:42.539 --> 01:21:44.659
-trial motions they had to have seen something

01:21:44.659 --> 01:21:46.520
that was like there had to have been evidence

01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:49.199
that was so damning that yeah that they're like

01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:52.000
you can't you can't play your way out you can't

01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:54.560
say you didn't know about this or say you didn't

01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:59.279
do it like yeah right But that's the end of that

01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:05.520
episode. And God, like, this is like, I know

01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:07.939
people like think that housewives is trash and

01:22:07.939 --> 01:22:09.500
like, in a lot of ways, they're probably right.

01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:13.199
But like, God, this is what, this is what I live

01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:17.020
for. And it's just like peak mellow drama. Like

01:22:17.020 --> 01:22:20.609
it's, it's. It's like it's no different from

01:22:20.609 --> 01:22:23.029
like I say, it's like very this one reads like

01:22:23.029 --> 01:22:25.989
very Chekhov to me, where it's like these sort

01:22:25.989 --> 01:22:28.789
of tortured souls and all these secrets being

01:22:28.789 --> 01:22:32.170
exposed through like legal action that no one

01:22:32.170 --> 01:22:36.289
wants to. confront and it's like it's a lot like

01:22:36.289 --> 01:22:38.670
it's firing on all cylinders and like we were

01:22:38.670 --> 01:22:41.470
satisfied with just a fight between Heather and

01:22:41.470 --> 01:22:43.729
Whitney I mean and we were satisfied with just

01:22:43.729 --> 01:22:45.390
a fight between Mary and Whitney and first and

01:22:45.390 --> 01:22:48.869
we thought like you can go little girl was like

01:22:48.869 --> 01:22:52.270
great and then we didn't know this was like right

01:22:52.270 --> 01:22:56.939
around the corner just Like, and again, we love

01:22:56.939 --> 01:22:59.279
the moments that are like, they're so real that

01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:01.340
like there were obviously this wasn't scripted

01:23:01.340 --> 01:23:04.060
or like nothing was fake about like producers

01:23:04.060 --> 01:23:07.239
being surprised by this and, and just everyone.

01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:10.699
I mean, even Jen being surprised by it. Like,

01:23:10.739 --> 01:23:15.520
it's just so satisfying. I do like Jen being

01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:17.819
surprised by it. Like, I think the one thing

01:23:17.819 --> 01:23:21.029
like I've always asked myself is like. did she

01:23:21.029 --> 01:23:23.569
actually believe either a she was going to get

01:23:23.569 --> 01:23:25.529
away with it or b what she was doing was not

01:23:25.529 --> 01:23:28.609
like one of those two things has to be true right

01:23:28.609 --> 01:23:31.130
yeah and i want to know which one it was because

01:23:31.130 --> 01:23:33.029
like either one of them you're just like you're

01:23:33.029 --> 01:23:38.289
not smart or you were a sociopath like my yeah

01:23:38.289 --> 01:23:41.649
my i tend to lean towards sociopath and i wonder

01:23:41.649 --> 01:23:44.109
i was like i feel like i wonder if she had it

01:23:44.109 --> 01:23:46.970
set up in her mind like in a way that like stew

01:23:46.970 --> 01:23:50.779
would take the fall for everything illegal That's

01:23:50.779 --> 01:23:53.239
what I wonder. I'm not sure. Do you know that

01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:56.600
he still has not been sentenced? Really? No.

01:23:56.939 --> 01:24:01.420
The way that I have done deep dives on this,

01:24:01.500 --> 01:24:02.640
because I'm like, I want to know everything.

01:24:03.020 --> 01:24:04.380
Because you know I'm applying to law school.

01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:08.279
I did not follow what happened. I just sort of

01:24:08.279 --> 01:24:13.199
assumed he had the same fate as Jen. No. Like...

01:24:13.779 --> 01:24:18.920
Did he turn on her? He must have. They start

01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:22.460
being represented together. I don't think they

01:24:22.460 --> 01:24:24.939
were ever represented together from the beginning,

01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:27.939
but I do know that almost immediately when the

01:24:27.939 --> 01:24:31.060
trial started, they had zero contact after that.

01:24:31.300 --> 01:24:33.899
It was their legal team speaking to each other.

01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:42.039
Stu was the last one to turn on Jen. I think

01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:45.800
that... like i that might be like his saving

01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:49.020
grace is like i'm i'm gonna get out of this like

01:24:49.020 --> 01:24:51.460
yeah save himself which sucks but like because

01:24:51.460 --> 01:24:53.979
because if you read like a lot of the court transcripts

01:24:53.979 --> 01:24:55.600
every single one of them knew what was going

01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:57.539
on every single one of them were putting people

01:24:57.539 --> 01:25:01.699
yeah yeah but like i'm just like stew is not

01:25:01.699 --> 01:25:05.300
innocent so like he's not innocent but he wasn't

01:25:05.300 --> 01:25:08.159
like the mastermind or he was only a partial

01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:11.279
mastermind like right i mean if he's if he's

01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:14.810
not if he's not equally as guilty as jen like

01:25:14.810 --> 01:25:17.029
he's still guilty like i don't care like yeah

01:25:17.029 --> 01:25:21.390
he was her like number two guy right but yeah

01:25:21.390 --> 01:25:24.430
that's that's that dear listener what a wild

01:25:24.430 --> 01:25:27.529
ride i always ask people this like if you had

01:25:27.529 --> 01:25:29.050
to be friends with any of the women from the

01:25:29.050 --> 01:25:35.270
show who would it be oh i mean i feel like i

01:25:35.270 --> 01:25:37.010
would have the most fun bantering with heather

01:25:37.010 --> 01:25:40.210
but like my heart just says whitney I agree.

01:25:40.409 --> 01:25:42.909
I was like, I know she'd let me get on the pole

01:25:42.909 --> 01:25:45.350
and be real fun and sweet, like teaching me how

01:25:45.350 --> 01:25:47.710
to do it. And she just seems like such a fun

01:25:47.710 --> 01:25:50.350
time who always wants to see the best in people.

01:25:50.409 --> 01:25:54.649
Like, I love it. And like, I love that she's

01:25:54.649 --> 01:25:59.750
so like, she's so sweet and innocent, but she's

01:25:59.750 --> 01:26:02.109
also like a dirty girl. Like she's just like,

01:26:02.149 --> 01:26:06.239
like she's like. I would get along with her so

01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:08.060
well. I'm so glad you said that because I completely

01:26:08.060 --> 01:26:11.439
agree. Yeah. I love her. I just want to, like,

01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:14.279
hang out in a hot tub with her and, like, dish.

01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:17.779
And just, like, tell her all my secrets. Totally.

01:26:18.699 --> 01:26:22.260
But this has been really cool. Thank you so much

01:26:22.260 --> 01:26:25.000
for coming on. Like, I have been looking forward

01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.500
to this. There's an open door for you anytime

01:26:28.500 --> 01:26:31.680
you want to come back. I have not shut up to

01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:36.430
a single person. sure but like this is this has

01:26:36.430 --> 01:26:38.710
been so great and you're so fun you're so cool

01:26:38.710 --> 01:26:40.750
plug whatever you want tell the people where

01:26:40.750 --> 01:26:43.109
they can find you oh my gosh um you can listen

01:26:43.109 --> 01:26:47.310
to my show hot masterpiece theater where we unpack

01:26:47.310 --> 01:26:50.670
uh our favorite scenes from reality tv and talk

01:26:50.670 --> 01:26:54.630
about why they're actually high art and why you're

01:26:54.630 --> 01:26:58.010
not trash for liking trash tv because because

01:26:58.010 --> 01:27:01.189
it's great and so yeah so i talk to fun people

01:27:01.189 --> 01:27:03.590
i break down like different archetypes that we

01:27:03.590 --> 01:27:07.909
see in reality tv and it's a good time so check

01:27:07.909 --> 01:27:11.029
us out at hot masterpiece pod on instagram and

01:27:11.029 --> 01:27:14.270
like wherever you listen to podcasts oh yeah

01:27:14.270 --> 01:27:17.829
i'll put it all in the show notes um also everyone

01:27:17.829 --> 01:27:20.689
needs to go buy a copy of your book it is that's

01:27:20.689 --> 01:27:24.430
so sweet i'm so like i i'm not like i want to

01:27:24.430 --> 01:27:26.229
start a book club just to revolve around that

01:27:26.229 --> 01:27:29.670
book it's such a good book But thank you so much

01:27:29.670 --> 01:27:31.609
for being here, Jalinta. You've been an absolute

01:27:31.609 --> 01:27:34.989
treasure and a gem. And I can't wait to do this

01:27:34.989 --> 01:27:36.149
again. Oh, my gosh.