baby onions, Vogue (DJ Meredith Marks remix), and a #MomTok hostile takeover attempt.

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I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is Bestie

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Approved. Yay. What's the last song you listened

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to? Smooth featuring Rob Thomas by Santana. Sure.

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Sure. Mine, you've never heard of, I can almost

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guarantee. It's the words best friend become

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redefined by Chiodos. Do you know what we should

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do? We should make an Apple Music playlist like

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public with all these songs. We should, except they're

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gonna judge me on some of them i guess i was

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um baby if you think they're not gonna judge

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the overloving fuck out of me listen to this

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song it was so evil i was listening to it loud

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as hell in my car sometimes i just am angry that's

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okay that is okay it's been a week guys it has

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been a week Where do you want to start? Do you

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want to start with your pregnancy update? Yeah.

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Let's do it. I am 17 weeks today. We're recording

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on Wednesday this week. So my baby is the size

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of an onion. I can't stop eating sugar, which

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is like really, really bad. So I'm just like

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having internal battles about that constantly.

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Like, is it bad for the baby or is it just like

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a you thing that it's bad? It's not necessarily

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bad for the baby, but there's this thing that

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you can have gestational diabetes, which is basically

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like while you're pregnant, you're diabetic.

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And I really don't want to have that. I honestly

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don't know what the treatment of that even entails,

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but I don't want it. So it's a battle every day.

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I have my one little sweet treat typically. And

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then I fight myself the rest of the day. But

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that's okay. Other than that, I'm fine. I'm still

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so tired. And they told me that I wasn't going

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to be tired in the second trimester. Wait, I

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want to go back to the diabetes thing for a second.

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You just have diabetes while you're pregnant?

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Like, it's not... Yeah. Oh. When I was pregnant

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with Jack, I had pregnancy -induced hypertension.

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So, like, my blood pressure was high only while

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I was pregnant. And now he doesn't. Does it just

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go away, like... Yeah. ...when you have the baby?

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Yeah. Oh. When I got... So, you go back to your

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OB, like, six weeks after you give birth, so

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you get cleared. to like exercise and stuff.

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And at that appointment, my blood pressure was

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back to completely normal. Well, yeah, it's weird.

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Yeah. I mean, your body's going through tons

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of changes. You're trying to take care of a baby.

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It's all weird. You know, it is weird. I'm never

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going to have a baby. Yeah. Ever. I mean, I'm

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not going to. have it though right i'm never

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gonna be pregnant i'm never gonna know what's

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the size of an onion inside of me right no uh

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but yeah it's crazy can you believe it's only

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40 weeks and i'm 17 weeks in i cannot believe

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we're almost halfway through because it feels

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like literally two weeks ago you told me like

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that is wild to me right i feel like i'm gonna

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have a baby tomorrow i'm so unprepared Also,

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they say this week he like starts hearing. He's

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developing. Oh, babies can hear you while they're

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in the belly. And that's why you'll see like

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people talking to their babies. Do you want to

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know what's insane? Like the preview of this

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app literally says Emma this week. Also, you

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can like. Wait, so go back to it can hear. The

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baby can hear? How? Starting like this week -ish.

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So it starts off, they can only hear like my

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voice, basically. But when they are like bigger,

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like when it's closer to time, you're supposed

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to have the dad or whoever's going to be around

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the baby also talk to the baby. So it's like

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a comfortable voice when the baby's born. Isn't

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that crazy? That is. I don't know if it makes

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me uncomfortable or if it's like a marvel of

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like the human body, which is really cool. Yeah,

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it's cool. I mean, it freaks me out, but I'm

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like, I don't know. I don't know. We're going

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to figure it out. Jack, when he was in my belly,

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liked certain music. Like I could tell he would

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like start kicking and moving around a lot. What

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did he like? Like what was his favorite song?

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Frank Ocean. He loved Frank Ocean. Of course

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he did. Yeah. What do you think this baby's going

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to like? Because if it's not Kesha, I'm going

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to be really upset. I think he'll love Kesha.

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I would hope so. Do you think he's going to know

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the sound of my voice? Probably. Aww. I don't

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know. Yeah, I don't know. It's all crazy. I think

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a lot of pregnancy stuff is guesswork, too, because,

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like, how can you actually know what's going

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on in a baby's brain while they're in their mom?

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You know what I mean? I don't know. In my mind,

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I was like, oh, they're just guessing on most

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of it. I don't know. That's what I thought, but

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then it's, like, very hyper -specific stuff,

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too. Like, this week he also is, like, starting

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to form fat. in his body it's like how do you

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know that like how how did we figure that out

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I mean that probably comes from the ultrasound

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like I'm more interested in like how it like

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the cognitive functions like how they know that

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because that well I bet I don't know I'm not

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I'm not a scientist I'm sure there's some type

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of scan or something they can do to see um another

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one is I think it was last week he can swallow

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Isn't that crazy? They practice for a long time,

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like in the belly, the act of like sucking like

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they would on a bottle. Oh, is that where the

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instinct comes from? That's so interesting. They

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practice it this early on in pregnancy. A little

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onion. That's me. I love that. Our little onion

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August. We're sharing the name. Are we telling

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the people the name? Do we need to cut that?

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Okay. I'm not weird about the name. I know some

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people like to wait until it's like the baby's

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here to tell anyone the name. I'm not like that.

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I'm so bad at keeping secrets like that. Oh,

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yeah. I'm really good at keeping secrets that

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are like bad stuff or hard stuff. but I'm horrible

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at keeping secrets that are exciting things.

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I've never wanted to keep a secret from you,

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but the way that my granny has called me and

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told me information and said, do not tell anyone

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about this, and you were the first person that

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I pick up the phone and call. I do that too.

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If there's a really juicy secret, I'll just tell

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someone who's not involved instantaneously. Oh,

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yeah. I can't keep it to myself. I really can't.

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How can you be expected to, honestly? I've been

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this way my whole life. I remember as a kid,

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like, no one would tell me what anyone got anyone

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for Christmas because I would tell. I would get

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so excited for them, and I would want to be like...

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You know what you got? You had tea to spill.

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Which is honestly probably kind of selfish of

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me because I wanted to see their reaction. No,

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you wanted to spread joy. We need to reframe

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that a little bit because you wanted to spread

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joy. Oh, Lord. Okay, we've got some stuff this

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week. Where do you want to start? I guess Diddy.

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So on my way to Emma's house, I got a... notification

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from apple news that diddy was only found guilty

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on the two lesser charges of um that he was on

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trial for so there were five charges one count

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of racketeering conspiracy two counts of sex

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trafficking by force fraud or coercion and two

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counts of transportation to engage in prostitution

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the two counts of transportation to engage in

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prostitution are the ones he was found guilty

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of i just have to be really honest i'm not thrilled

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with the justice system right now given everything

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that we have learned from the trial and from

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the last seven weeks I'm just I I just feel like

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those were the easiest charges to prove sure

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you know what I mean because there are records

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of flights and you know license plates that are

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on camera and things like that I just I knew

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this was gonna happen I knew this was gonna happen

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because And there's no evidence. You would have

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to get everyone to testify against him. And everyone's

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so scared of him. Right. I will say if he's in

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prison for 20 years, when he gets out, he's going

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to be 75. He can't survive a freak off. You know

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what I mean? So I think it's over for all of

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the victims and people involved. Thank God. But

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I don't like do you feel like they're getting

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justice like the victims? No, but I don't know

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that they ever could have. You're right. Cause

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there's so much trauma there. Like, how do you

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unpack that? And like, how do you heal from that?

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But like, unless they took him to civil court

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for pain and suffering, like they were never

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going to get a settlement or anything. I don't

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know. Yeah. It just sucks. Like, I'm just mad

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about it. And like, I was talking to my dad about

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this. We're like, how would you feel if either

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a, it was, me or Zachary that you had to like

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go into that courtroom and like and be on our

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side and try and defend us like if we had done

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allegedly such horrific acts or B how would you

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feel if we were the victims and like there was

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nothing you could do and I'm going to be really

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honest I don't care about the racketeering charges

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I don't care at all about that like I care about

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like What you did to people, allegedly. I'm just,

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I'm not, I'm just, ugh. It's a power dynamic

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thing, obviously. And all I can think about is

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Cassie, the poor girl, like. Oh my God, I know.

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Thank God for her new husband, who's an absolute

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angel from God. You know, he did, he ran like

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a full marathon or a 5K or something to support.

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victims of sexual abuse and like stop to give

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cassie a hug on his run bless his heart he is

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a little angel and he is so sweet he's like done

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nothing but support her he's never done anything

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to act like insecure about it or like he doesn't

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want to talk about it he's like always just shown

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up in support of her and i think that's so hot

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and i'm happy that she's got someone who she

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can be more comfortable with. And that's all

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I'll say about Diddy. Diddy does not deserve

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any more of our time. 100%. Anna Wintour is stepping

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down as the editor -in -chief of Vogue. She had

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to. I'm going to be so honest. She's fallen off

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so hard in the last few years. The last Met Gala

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she went to, she had a stain on her dress. She's

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just started a fall from grace, and I'm glad

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that she was at least... aware enough to know

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that it was her time well that and like i i think

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the entire print media industry is having a fall

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from grace too i mean like you're you took over

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vogue in what 1988 so like she's been around

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for 36 years and like your entire year was planned

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around basically the the september issue and

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it's like that print media that that fanfare

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for that one time of year doesn't really exist

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anymore in like this world of fast fashion and

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it's part of it's kind of sad because it's like

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you're seeing an entire industry that's worth

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like 3 .6 trillion dollars die yeah and like

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and she was kind of the face of that because

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I mean she called the shots and she decided like

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what fashion was and like I mean I know there

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was like a team but like she was that was like

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her thing and it's like what does she do now

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I guess Yeah, I mean, hopefully just retire.

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Vogue's been paying her well for 36 years. I

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think she'll probably retire. I will say, with

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the fall of print media, I do respect Vogue for

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trying to enter the space of fashion via social

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media. They've gotten the girls to do their,

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like... getting ready videos and the you know

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whatever and all of those and i think that's

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cute um i like the what is it like 90 questions

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oh yeah the thing where they like follow you

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around the house yeah that is vogue yeah yeah

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i think those are cute i i do like that they've

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tried to like enter a space where it's more accessible

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to the age that is supposed to be accessible

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to, you know, I started reading Vogue when I

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was like 13. Do you think that when they presented

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that idea to Anna Wintour, it was just like a

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knockdown drag out fight saying, I'm not doing

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this like TikTok trash and like, look what it's

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turned into. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it took some

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convincing. I think that's part of like why she

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had to go is because. She's so old fashioned

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and so used to the old way of doing things that

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it would be really hard, I think, for anyone

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to adjust to this sort of hate me for saying

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it, but cheaper version of things where it's

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like you're trying to appeal to the masses by

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saying you're just like them instead of trying

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to appeal to the masses by being as fabulous

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as possible. Right. Like it's a very different.

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mindset no for sure it's like I that's the thing

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is like I don't I think back to like you know

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like what the 80s the 90s represented and even

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like the mid -2000s where like fashion was aspirational

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and it was like Vogue and Harper's Bazaar and

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it was like the models and like the whole thing

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and like right now I couldn't name a model besides

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Naomi Campbell like and I don't I think of her

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as like a model right now. Do you know what I

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mean? Yeah. I mean, my mind automatically goes

00:14:49.500 --> 00:14:54.539
Bella Hadid, Alex Kansani, all of those, that

00:14:54.539 --> 00:14:58.039
group. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. But even with

00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:02.220
them, social media has gotten us to a point of

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believing that everything is attainable for ourselves.

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Like people really aren't interested in anything

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that they can't. Or their daddy can't buy for

00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:19.419
them. You know, like Bella Hadid is like one

00:15:19.419 --> 00:15:22.080
of the most famous models in the world. And she's

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like tagging where she gets her outfits from

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and stuff like that, because that's what people

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want. People want to see someone. And it's always

00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:34.379
been you see someone and I want to be just like

00:15:34.379 --> 00:15:37.960
her. But we've lost the formula of like trying

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to figure that out on your own. And now are like,

00:15:41.899 --> 00:15:44.360
well, she got that from here and I can get it

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from here. And she got that bag from here and

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I can find that bag and I can. Oh, like it's

00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.259
just an influencer's world. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone

00:15:52.259 --> 00:15:54.940
wants to be an influencer. And like, I get it.

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I thought we're trying to do it. Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, yeah. Like, I'm not judging anyone. I'm

00:16:01.940 --> 00:16:04.299
just saying, like, the mindset has completely

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shifted. there's like little to no individuality

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now outside of like, who do you idolize? I don't

00:16:12.779 --> 00:16:14.019
know. I think it's funny. Like when you say,

00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:16.039
who do you idolize? And like, I feel like I'm

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not like a normal person when it comes to this.

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Cause like you say, who do you idolize? And I'm

00:16:21.299 --> 00:16:24.440
like, Bethany Frankel. Like she's my hero. But

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no, I hear what you're saying. Like 15 to 22

00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:34.490
year olds. Sure. Like, the impressionable crowd

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who's, like, still trying to figure themselves

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out. I think that's who, like, they have no,

00:16:41.470 --> 00:16:45.809
they're like, I like Bella Hadid and I like whatever

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big influencers. I like Alex Earl and I like.

00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.320
whoever else and I'm gonna dress exactly like

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them to the point where I'm going to buy my outfits

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from the same stores where they bought theirs

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I'm it's like much more copy and paste than it

00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:05.660
used to be at least in my opinion no that's fair

00:17:05.660 --> 00:17:07.980
it's and it's funny that you brought up Bella

00:17:07.980 --> 00:17:11.019
Hadid and her sister Gigi because like I literally

00:17:11.019 --> 00:17:12.839
only know them from the Real Housewives of Beverly

00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:16.720
Hills because of Yolanda Foster yeah I didn't

00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:21.450
even Like clock them being in Real Housewives

00:17:21.450 --> 00:17:24.710
until recently. I don't know. Like Bella Hadid

00:17:24.710 --> 00:17:27.849
specifically. She's like so cool girl. She's

00:17:27.849 --> 00:17:31.289
very cool. Riding her horses and smoking a cigarette

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with a glass of red wine. Like she's so hot.

00:17:34.869 --> 00:17:37.309
She is. I think everyone wants to be like her.

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And it's like, why wouldn't you? She's like the

00:17:40.670 --> 00:17:43.309
coolest bitch in the world. No, totally. It's

00:17:43.309 --> 00:17:45.170
so funny, though. I remember walking by the Burberry

00:17:45.170 --> 00:17:47.950
store when there was still one in Indy and I

00:17:47.950 --> 00:17:49.890
walked by it and I was like, oh, my God, that's

00:17:49.890 --> 00:17:52.210
Yolanda Foster's daughter. And the person that

00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:54.509
was with me was like, are you being fucking serious

00:17:54.509 --> 00:17:58.450
right now? She's very much her own girl now.

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But that that is funny because it all comes from

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Yolanda. It does. I mean, Bella Hadid started

00:18:04.220 --> 00:18:06.559
getting work done when she was very young. Well,

00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.980
if you look a little bit under the surface there,

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it is not ideal. Oh. Go ahead. You know about

00:18:15.380 --> 00:18:18.900
the almond mom thing? If you're about to say

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what I think, because I was literally about to

00:18:20.859 --> 00:18:23.019
say exactly what you think, or I think you're

00:18:23.019 --> 00:18:25.839
going to say, but go ahead. So like. Yolanda

00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:29.079
Hadid is the OG almond mom. Almond moms are the

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ones who are like, wait till you're hungry and

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then eat one almond. Oh, I've got one better

00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:40.599
for you. It was Bella or Gigi's. I think it was

00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:46.200
Gigi's birthday. And they were showing her party

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on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She

00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:50.599
said, oh, I'm going to have a piece of cake for

00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.920
my birthday. And the way that I watched Yolanda

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Foster's or what appeared to be an eating disorder

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live on television. And I have never been so

00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:01.720
triggered in my entire life because she let her

00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:03.559
daughter take one bite of it and said, that's

00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:07.460
it. That's enough. Yeah. I mean, that was really

00:19:07.460 --> 00:19:10.859
sad because it is obvious that she kind of put

00:19:10.859 --> 00:19:13.799
it on her daughters that they need to be model

00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:15.940
sized and they need to do this and they need

00:19:15.940 --> 00:19:19.869
to do that. to be skinny, like for no other goal,

00:19:20.009 --> 00:19:23.730
not health, not wealth to be skinny period. Cause

00:19:23.730 --> 00:19:27.150
that's your paycheck. Yeah. It's sad. It's sad.

00:19:27.289 --> 00:19:30.069
And it is kind of sad to see like how well it

00:19:30.069 --> 00:19:33.309
works, but to be fair, they're both by themselves.

00:19:33.329 --> 00:19:35.829
Very successful. Oh, absolutely. But to be fair

00:19:35.829 --> 00:19:39.710
to Yolanda, that was the world she grew up in.

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Like she was a model in the late eighties, early

00:19:41.809 --> 00:19:43.910
nineties. Like, and that was like, I mean, you

00:19:43.910 --> 00:19:47.319
had the model houses where like they, had a cigarette

00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:50.140
and, like, a grape, and that was their meal.

00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:54.279
Yeah, 100%. And it's hard to judge that group

00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:56.839
of women. I mean, we're talking about Naomi Campbell

00:19:56.839 --> 00:19:59.700
in the 90s. We're talking about all of them who

00:19:59.700 --> 00:20:03.140
had all of these very unhealthy habits. They

00:20:03.140 --> 00:20:06.779
were getting drunk via their buttholes and stuff

00:20:06.779 --> 00:20:10.880
like that. Oh, yeah. Models are where butt chugging

00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:12.900
came from. They put it up their butt. That's

00:20:12.900 --> 00:20:16.470
a real thing. Uh -huh. Oh my Christ. I always

00:20:16.470 --> 00:20:18.430
thought that was just a joke. No, and I read

00:20:18.430 --> 00:20:22.490
about models eating cotton balls because you

00:20:22.490 --> 00:20:24.930
can't really digest it, but it'll fill you up.

00:20:26.049 --> 00:20:29.490
Oh Jesus Christ. Let me just put this disclaimer

00:20:29.490 --> 00:20:31.390
out there for anyone listening to this. Please

00:20:31.390 --> 00:20:33.650
don't do that. Do not do any of that. It is so

00:20:33.650 --> 00:20:35.950
harmful to your health, and it's not worth it

00:20:35.950 --> 00:20:40.089
to be skinny. Or just be comfortable in your

00:20:40.089 --> 00:20:43.170
body, and you're okay. You are perfect just the

00:20:43.170 --> 00:20:45.859
way you are. Yeah, you are perfect the way you

00:20:45.859 --> 00:20:48.160
are. There's no reason to want to change yourself,

00:20:48.299 --> 00:20:50.140
especially to the point of harming yourself.

00:20:50.420 --> 00:20:53.980
That's so counterintuitive. But the point I'm

00:20:53.980 --> 00:20:56.779
trying to make is that when you grow up around

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that and you want to be in that industry, it's

00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.920
hard to judge. Oh, totally. Because that was

00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:09.490
so normalized 20 years ago. Oh, 100%. And that's

00:21:09.490 --> 00:21:12.049
I think that ended with the whole like heroin

00:21:12.049 --> 00:21:15.150
chic going out of style. I think that's when

00:21:15.150 --> 00:21:20.349
that lifestyle also went out of style. I'm thrilled

00:21:20.349 --> 00:21:23.109
about that because I didn't believe that was

00:21:23.109 --> 00:21:25.869
I had no idea that was a thing. So that's terrifying.

00:21:25.910 --> 00:21:29.250
One day we need to get into my granny and Sue

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and like the relationship with food there because.

00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:36.200
We should have a relationship with food segment

00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:38.859
in an episode. Oh, yeah. That might be a whole

00:21:38.859 --> 00:21:41.660
episode one day, actually. There's a lot to unpack.

00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.200
I mean, because even parents who think they're

00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.220
doing the right thing can give you a bad relationship

00:21:48.220 --> 00:21:51.720
with food. Oh, yeah. And it's hard. That's a

00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.299
hard thing to navigate, even as an adult, your

00:21:54.299 --> 00:22:00.140
relationship with food for a lot of people. Yeah.

00:22:01.049 --> 00:22:03.289
Yeah, I don't know. I'm very happy for Bella

00:22:03.289 --> 00:22:05.309
and Gigi, and I'm glad it worked out for them,

00:22:05.430 --> 00:22:09.269
but it is hard to see a mom act like that. Oh,

00:22:09.269 --> 00:22:12.210
yeah. Do you want to be mad, or do you want to

00:22:12.210 --> 00:22:14.950
laugh at the universe conspiring against me?

00:22:16.269 --> 00:22:19.670
Either one. Let's start with the fun one first,

00:22:19.710 --> 00:22:24.769
and then we'll roll into the disaster. So I wholeheartedly

00:22:24.769 --> 00:22:27.220
believe that the universe is conspiring. against

00:22:27.220 --> 00:22:29.440
me to aggravate the living fuck out of me so

00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:31.079
you know i'm trying to teach myself how to swim

00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:36.400
um i was at lifetime two days ago at this point

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and the lap pool at lifetime was closed i guess

00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.819
for like maintenance or i don't know i don't

00:22:44.819 --> 00:22:48.559
care why it was closed and there was a class

00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:51.619
going on in the other pool where I had the option

00:22:51.619 --> 00:22:53.160
to swim. So I said, I'm just going to hang out

00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:54.660
here. I'm going to sit down and I'm going to

00:22:54.660 --> 00:22:56.920
disassociate on TikTok until this little class

00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:59.700
is over. And then I'm going to hop right in that

00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:03.839
pool. This man comes out of the locker rooms

00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.539
that like lead directly into the lap pool. And

00:23:07.539 --> 00:23:12.539
he looks at the sign that says lap pool closed.

00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:18.079
And I'm sitting. facing the lap pool like on

00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.259
the bench thing and this man turns around and

00:23:21.259 --> 00:23:24.180
he looks at me and he goes is the pool closed

00:23:24.180 --> 00:23:28.579
I said um yeah it looks like it and then I went

00:23:28.579 --> 00:23:32.819
right back to my phone I had my beats in I was

00:23:32.819 --> 00:23:36.119
not giving the signal that I was in the mood

00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:39.559
to have a conversation so then he goes well is

00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:43.359
it going to be closed all day and I said I don't

00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:46.769
know I'm not sure sir um And then I looked back

00:23:46.769 --> 00:23:51.829
at my phone and he goes, well, what are people

00:23:51.829 --> 00:23:53.829
doing if they want to swim? And I was like, well,

00:23:53.990 --> 00:23:56.670
I'm waiting for this class to be over and then

00:23:56.670 --> 00:24:00.250
I'm going to hop in that pool. And he goes, well,

00:24:00.349 --> 00:24:02.329
is it going to be closed all day? And he just

00:24:02.329 --> 00:24:04.150
kept saying, is it going to be closed all day?

00:24:04.269 --> 00:24:09.029
I do wonder if being seated by a pool while a

00:24:09.029 --> 00:24:12.670
class was going on, if you were giving lifeguard.

00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:16.980
I was wearing chubby swim trunks with palm trees

00:24:16.980 --> 00:24:20.559
on them and they were pink. I don't know that

00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:26.160
a man would care. Got it. OK, I don't know. But

00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:28.059
you're also on your phone and that's not giving

00:24:28.059 --> 00:24:31.079
lifeguard. I don't know. But also imagine being

00:24:31.079 --> 00:24:33.440
so fit and hot that they assume you work there.

00:24:34.380 --> 00:24:42.200
Love that for me. But he just kept saying. Is

00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:43.859
it going to be closed all day? And I got to the

00:24:43.859 --> 00:24:46.599
point where I just stopped acknowledging him.

00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:48.960
And then he looks me dead in the face and he

00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.119
goes, I don't even know why I try anymore. And

00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:52.740
then he throws his hands up in the air and like

00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:55.720
storms off. And I don't know why you try either,

00:24:55.900 --> 00:24:59.640
sir. Right. And I was just like, and I never

00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:02.019
once considered that maybe he thought I worked

00:25:02.019 --> 00:25:05.240
there. So like, I will give you that. But the

00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:10.220
sense of entitlement to be like. I'm just going

00:25:10.220 --> 00:25:12.960
to keep asking a question that this guy has like

00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:15.920
already let me know that he does not know the

00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.359
answer to. And like, I still am looking for an

00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.079
answer. Like go talk to the front desk, go like

00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:23.539
literally go anywhere else, but like stop bothering

00:25:23.539 --> 00:25:26.599
me. And like, I don't understand people who act

00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:28.680
like that. Like you think you're going to magically

00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:32.339
get what you want the 65th time. Right. And also

00:25:32.339 --> 00:25:34.960
the pool says it's fucking closed on the sign.

00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:39.569
Like. Hello? You're an unstoppable force meeting

00:25:39.569 --> 00:25:41.869
an immovable object. What do you want, sir? I

00:25:41.869 --> 00:25:45.650
don't know what he wanted you to say. Because

00:25:45.650 --> 00:25:50.349
also, if you did work there, if he found someone

00:25:50.349 --> 00:25:52.390
who worked there and he asked them and the pool

00:25:52.390 --> 00:25:55.650
was going to be open four hours later, are you

00:25:55.650 --> 00:25:57.269
going to sit around and wait for four hours?

00:25:57.329 --> 00:25:59.170
Why do you want to know if it's going to be closed

00:25:59.170 --> 00:26:04.420
all day? Right. Or conceptually. Take the advice

00:26:04.420 --> 00:26:07.099
of the guy you've been harassing and wait the

00:26:07.099 --> 00:26:09.880
four minutes for that class to be over and just

00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:12.299
hop in the other pool. It's just not that deep.

00:26:12.460 --> 00:26:16.960
Yeah, literally. Oh, it isn't. Actually, it's

00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:21.630
four feet versus six feet. But goddamn. It's

00:26:21.630 --> 00:26:23.789
going to be okay. You can still swim in it. Guess

00:26:23.789 --> 00:26:25.750
what, buddy? Everything's going to be okay. Do

00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:28.029
you want to complain? Yeah, I do want to complain.

00:26:28.349 --> 00:26:30.650
I want you to go first. Today I'm complaining

00:26:30.650 --> 00:26:33.809
about Love Island, which maybe could have saved

00:26:33.809 --> 00:26:37.529
itself for our reality roundup if I didn't just

00:26:37.529 --> 00:26:41.910
want to bitch about it. No one knows how to communicate

00:26:41.910 --> 00:26:45.809
with each other anymore. No one understands how

00:26:45.809 --> 00:26:49.750
to date or what they owe people. I'm so tired

00:26:49.750 --> 00:26:53.710
of the phrase, I don't owe anything to anybody.

00:26:53.970 --> 00:26:58.349
Yes, you do. You owe everyone you run into basic

00:26:58.349 --> 00:27:02.369
human decency. Okay, okay. You owe everyone you

00:27:02.369 --> 00:27:08.130
run into grace. and the same type of treatment

00:27:08.130 --> 00:27:11.269
you would like to enjoy from them. That is what

00:27:11.269 --> 00:27:18.910
you owe people. I also am so tired of this narrative

00:27:18.910 --> 00:27:24.609
of needing to be a girl's girl on Love Island.

00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.779
You're on Love Island. You guys are all dating

00:27:27.779 --> 00:27:32.740
the same guys. I understand that you should always

00:27:32.740 --> 00:27:36.519
want to stand up for your girls. Yes, I get it.

00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.500
I think it would be beautiful for you all to

00:27:39.500 --> 00:27:43.700
be friends, but it is so obvious that this season

00:27:43.700 --> 00:27:47.559
they're trying to rip off last season with this

00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:55.109
group that was Leah, Serena, and Janae. They

00:27:55.109 --> 00:28:00.910
were all, all three of those girls are massively

00:28:00.910 --> 00:28:04.210
famous now. And it is so very clear that three

00:28:04.210 --> 00:28:06.910
of the girls on this season are trying to become

00:28:06.910 --> 00:28:10.609
that. But they're bullies. They are bullying

00:28:10.609 --> 00:28:15.210
this girl. Okay, so to summarize what happened.

00:28:15.970 --> 00:28:19.990
This girl, Huda. They're like split off at Castle

00:28:19.990 --> 00:28:22.529
Amour. I'm not even going to explain that to

00:28:22.529 --> 00:28:28.410
you. But they're at Castle Amour. Shelly is connecting

00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:31.789
with this guy, but she knows deep down she likes

00:28:31.789 --> 00:28:33.970
the guy she has back at the main villa better.

00:28:34.670 --> 00:28:38.650
So then Huda confronts her as she should and

00:28:38.650 --> 00:28:41.430
says, hey, I'm interested in this guy that you're

00:28:41.430 --> 00:28:44.490
seeing, Chris. I want to bring him back to the

00:28:44.490 --> 00:28:47.680
villa. Huda tells Shelly to her face, I'm interested

00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.359
in the guy you're talking to. Shelly is like,

00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.859
okay, cool, because I'm more interested in the

00:28:52.859 --> 00:28:56.240
other guy back at the villa anyway. Bring him

00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.559
on home with you, girl. And everyone's very honest

00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.759
with each other, which I really respect. Chris

00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:03.900
is like, I'm going to pursue both of you. I want

00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:07.000
to get to know both of you. Whatever. And then

00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:11.460
he decides one day Shelly isn't giving like reciprocating

00:29:11.460 --> 00:29:13.259
the energy that he's giving her. So he's going

00:29:13.259 --> 00:29:15.880
to stop trying to pursue her. He likes Huda.

00:29:16.019 --> 00:29:19.539
Huda likes him. They make out. Beautiful. Love

00:29:19.539 --> 00:29:23.900
that for them. Then we get to last night's episode,

00:29:23.980 --> 00:29:28.579
which is basically everyone wrote these postcards

00:29:28.579 --> 00:29:32.180
to other people in the villa to air shit out.

00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:36.559
And Shelly has the nerve to go up on a podium

00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.240
and say they had a conversation where Huda said

00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.180
she was just bringing Chris back for her. For

00:29:44.180 --> 00:29:47.640
Shelly. Like she was only bringing this man back

00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:54.160
so that Shelly could pursue him still. Baby,

00:29:54.259 --> 00:29:56.319
it's love fucking island. I know. That's not

00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.279
even how the conversation went, first of all.

00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.220
That's not how it went. And I don't know, there's

00:30:04.220 --> 00:30:06.980
been other drama to kind of add color to this.

00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:12.480
But it's like, I just feel like there are some

00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.920
girls on Love Island right now who are not used

00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.880
to being jealous. And they don't know how to

00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:24.240
handle that emotion. Like, Shelly is so beautiful.

00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:29.140
In real life. That it seems to me. Let me show

00:30:29.140 --> 00:30:31.740
you a picture of her. But it seems to me. Shelly

00:30:31.740 --> 00:30:37.240
said. Mm -hmm. C -H -E -L -L -E -Y. Oh, my God.

00:30:37.259 --> 00:30:40.119
She is so beautiful. She's stunning. Like, absolutely

00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.880
drop dead gorgeous. Wait, and she's the girl

00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.900
that. She's the girl who's like, you told me

00:30:45.900 --> 00:30:48.019
you were going to bring Chris back just so I

00:30:48.019 --> 00:30:50.160
could still talk to him. Oh, she's never been

00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:52.200
insecure a day in her life. That's what I'm saying.

00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.160
She's never been jealous before. And she doesn't

00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:58.279
know how to like confront those emotions. Yes.

00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:01.940
And it's become very obvious on this season,

00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:06.839
and it's making me sad. You are not there for

00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.740
every girl to kiss your feet and every man to

00:31:09.740 --> 00:31:12.799
kiss your ass. Like, that's not how it works.

00:31:12.900 --> 00:31:16.900
You're on Love Island. Everyone is dating everyone.

00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:21.140
She's simply not familiar, though. I just can't.

00:31:21.180 --> 00:31:23.359
And I can't believe I'm defending Huda because

00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.779
she's the one who's a mom and was crashing out

00:31:25.779 --> 00:31:30.359
and all of this. Oh, okay. See. But she has owned

00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.559
up to that. She's been like, I've made mistakes.

00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.200
I'm sorry for acting like that. I'm trying to

00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.200
grow and improve myself. Okay. On Love Island.

00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:46.609
Yes. I. Like, it's all kind of silly because

00:31:46.609 --> 00:31:49.670
it's on Love Island at all. But I'm like, how

00:31:49.670 --> 00:31:52.769
are you not understanding that you are bullying

00:31:52.769 --> 00:31:55.950
this girl? Because they were coming at her talking

00:31:55.950 --> 00:31:59.849
about they're not giving her this. She's not

00:31:59.849 --> 00:32:02.329
giving them the same treatments she expects from

00:32:02.329 --> 00:32:04.250
them and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:32:04.430 --> 00:32:06.589
I don't know what anyone expects going on to

00:32:06.589 --> 00:32:08.789
Love Island. I think that's a big conversation

00:32:08.789 --> 00:32:11.769
we need to have is we need to align our expectations

00:32:11.769 --> 00:32:16.650
with reality. 100%. And I think it would be beautiful

00:32:16.650 --> 00:32:19.690
if you all could be friends and get along. I

00:32:19.690 --> 00:32:21.890
think it would even make the whole thing better

00:32:21.890 --> 00:32:24.910
for everyone to kind of get along and be honest

00:32:24.910 --> 00:32:27.250
about what they're feeling and how they're feeling.

00:32:27.309 --> 00:32:29.819
But there's been so much catty. and pettiness

00:32:29.819 --> 00:32:33.599
and weirdness this season and also there's this

00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.700
girl who's just like sitting back and laughing

00:32:35.700 --> 00:32:38.519
ha ha he he every time this girl is bullied and

00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.940
I'm like you don't want anyone to start pointing

00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:47.329
the finger at you no Anyway, that is my complaint.

00:32:47.670 --> 00:32:50.509
Love Island this season in general is pissing

00:32:50.509 --> 00:32:53.390
me off. There's too much drama. No one understands

00:32:53.390 --> 00:32:55.869
how to communicate with each other. No one understands.

00:32:56.009 --> 00:33:00.190
And I blame dating apps. I 100 % blame dating

00:33:00.190 --> 00:33:03.829
apps. Okay. Because I think it has twisted our

00:33:03.829 --> 00:33:08.390
brains into thinking that all you have to do

00:33:08.390 --> 00:33:12.140
is be the hottest person there. And and that's

00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:14.500
it. All of the men will fall for you. You'll

00:33:14.500 --> 00:33:17.200
have your pick of the bunch and you don't need

00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:20.519
to do anything. I think it also has added this

00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:25.339
like weird. You can tell everyone there is concerned

00:33:25.339 --> 00:33:31.000
about how America is viewing them. And so they're

00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.559
all playing it like too cool for school. Trying

00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.599
to show off almost. No one's being like as vulnerable

00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.900
as they should be, except for my queen, Amaya.

00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:44.460
Anyway, that's it. I just need to get that off

00:33:44.460 --> 00:33:47.079
my chest. It's driving me crazy. Anyone who watches

00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:48.539
Love Island will know what I'm talking about.

00:33:51.500 --> 00:33:55.900
If you like it, I love it. I'm going to complain

00:33:55.900 --> 00:34:01.380
about the. Monthly song and dance. I have to

00:34:01.380 --> 00:34:04.859
go through to get my Adderall refilled. Dear

00:34:04.859 --> 00:34:06.559
listener, you've probably picked up on the fact

00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:14.159
that I have unhinged ADHD and I need a pill or

00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.840
two, depending on the day to get through the

00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:23.909
day. So what the and anyone who. Takes Adderall

00:34:23.909 --> 00:34:26.429
or any controlled substance, controlled substance

00:34:26.429 --> 00:34:29.530
gets this. And I'm going to start by saying I

00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:31.489
understand that there's a high potential for

00:34:31.489 --> 00:34:33.190
abuse of these drugs. And that's why some of

00:34:33.190 --> 00:34:36.710
these situations and systems are in place. I

00:34:36.710 --> 00:34:39.670
get that. It does not change how frustrating

00:34:39.670 --> 00:34:43.909
it is. So not at all. Not at all. I would argue

00:34:43.909 --> 00:34:46.469
they're controlled substances because they work.

00:34:46.590 --> 00:34:49.750
And so the people who need them need them. Sure.

00:34:49.989 --> 00:34:54.159
Anyway, maybe. But you have when we shared an

00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.820
office, you have sat there and listened to what

00:34:56.820 --> 00:34:59.619
it takes to get a prescription refilled. So the

00:34:59.619 --> 00:35:01.699
initial prescription goes from your doctor to

00:35:01.699 --> 00:35:03.460
the pharmacy. Everyone knows how that works,

00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:07.980
right? 30 days goes by. A person with ADHD has

00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:11.159
to run out of his ADHD medication and then remember,

00:35:11.380 --> 00:35:13.840
oh, I have to call the pharmacy on the day that

00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.460
I run out because they will not schedule it for

00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:21.239
later. They will not do it. Then you have to

00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:23.199
go through the whole song and dance of do you

00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.000
have it in stock because there's an Adderall

00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.039
shortage still and that's been going on for two

00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.219
years and I don't know why that's a thing. And

00:35:29.219 --> 00:35:31.840
then you have to go through the whole song and

00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.500
dance of, oh, well, we don't have it in stock.

00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:36.280
Oh, well, you have to call your doctor and have

00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.019
it sent to another pharmacy. We can't send it

00:35:38.019 --> 00:35:39.840
for you and we won't tell you what other pharmacies

00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.199
have it in stock. And then three months goes

00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.519
by and you've. you've used your three refills

00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.519
at the pharmacy so then you have to call your

00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.380
doctor and then you have to talk to a nurse named

00:35:51.380 --> 00:35:55.059
brenda who does not like you and has never liked

00:35:55.059 --> 00:35:58.920
you and she is so mean to you every time she

00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.440
picks up the phone and talks to you and you just

00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.460
have to deal with it because she is the gatekeeper

00:36:05.460 --> 00:36:08.139
between you and getting the medicine that helps

00:36:08.139 --> 00:36:10.260
you function and that's what i'm complaining

00:36:10.260 --> 00:36:15.300
about today I just really don't understand. I

00:36:15.300 --> 00:36:17.280
don't understand why they won't do automatic

00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.019
refills. I understand that it's a controlled

00:36:20.019 --> 00:36:22.739
substance, but if you wait 30 days to refill

00:36:22.739 --> 00:36:26.199
it, that's still, you're regulating the use,

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:30.599
right? Like, I don't understand that at all.

00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.320
I don't either. In the least. And what really,

00:36:33.340 --> 00:36:36.960
like, gets to me is, like, ADHD, so many people

00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.500
cannot function without Adderall. Like, they

00:36:39.500 --> 00:36:43.610
cannot do it. But also other controlled substances

00:36:43.610 --> 00:36:47.369
like pain medication and things like that. Like

00:36:47.369 --> 00:36:51.550
you are just letting people suffer. For what?

00:36:51.690 --> 00:36:55.150
For what, diva? For what? For what? Because you

00:36:55.150 --> 00:36:56.889
think people are going to take some extra pills?

00:36:57.389 --> 00:36:59.949
The people who are really concerned about this

00:36:59.949 --> 00:37:03.650
are the people who really need them. You know,

00:37:03.650 --> 00:37:05.570
well, and that's I don't know if they're even

00:37:05.570 --> 00:37:07.230
concerned about people taking extra pills, because

00:37:07.230 --> 00:37:09.469
I don't know that they care about what happens

00:37:09.469 --> 00:37:11.989
with the pills once they leave the pharmacy.

00:37:12.070 --> 00:37:13.809
I don't know that there's any interest in it

00:37:13.809 --> 00:37:15.909
whatsoever. And I understand there's a lot more

00:37:15.909 --> 00:37:19.469
to it than I know. But. I just know that there

00:37:19.469 --> 00:37:21.550
has to be a better way to do this. There has

00:37:21.550 --> 00:37:24.510
to be. You're literally everyone who needs a

00:37:24.510 --> 00:37:27.349
controlled substance. If you need it and that's

00:37:27.349 --> 00:37:30.469
why you're prescribed it, you are suffering at

00:37:30.469 --> 00:37:33.769
the mercy of a pharmacy. I just don't understand

00:37:33.769 --> 00:37:36.110
it. You're suffering at the mercy of a pharmacy

00:37:36.110 --> 00:37:39.710
or a nurse, a nurse named Brenda that hates you.

00:37:39.889 --> 00:37:42.969
Yeah. Are you ready for reality roundup? Yes.

00:37:43.210 --> 00:37:46.190
Perfect. Before we get into Mormon wives, I want

00:37:46.190 --> 00:37:49.269
to talk about Meredith Marks. And how she's a

00:37:49.269 --> 00:37:53.949
DJ. Yeah. Yes. I love her tour she did for Pride

00:37:53.949 --> 00:37:58.190
Month. She looks cool as fuck. And those arms

00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:02.250
are toned. I I there's something about Meredith

00:38:02.250 --> 00:38:06.170
Marks where she just makes me so happy. Like

00:38:06.170 --> 00:38:08.650
there's there's a love there that I've never

00:38:08.650 --> 00:38:11.869
known or understood from anyone else but Meredith

00:38:11.869 --> 00:38:16.079
Marks. And the fact that she said. I'm going

00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.179
to I'm going to go make the gays happy today

00:38:18.179 --> 00:38:22.099
with my music and my little songs. And do you

00:38:22.099 --> 00:38:26.559
know what she's DJing is deep cuts of Britney

00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:32.099
Spears and then remixes of Lisa Barlow calling

00:38:32.099 --> 00:38:35.280
Meredith Marks a poser fan or like her family

00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.659
that poses and a piece of shit, garbage whore.

00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:41.139
And she said, I'm going to monetize the ever

00:38:41.139 --> 00:38:44.480
loving fuck out of this. And I'm so happy, and

00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:48.340
I want her to have everything. She just exudes

00:38:48.340 --> 00:38:51.900
that she is herself. Like, she is so genuine.

00:38:52.059 --> 00:38:55.239
She is not pretending for anyone. No, not at

00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.739
all. Which makes it so ironic that Lisa Barlow

00:38:57.739 --> 00:38:59.980
called her a poser and her whole family posers,

00:38:59.980 --> 00:39:02.880
because she's so not that. No, not at all. She's

00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.460
just like, you can tell she's always been herself,

00:39:06.699 --> 00:39:10.070
period, dot done. And also... I've noticed from

00:39:10.070 --> 00:39:14.929
watching Salt Lake City, she is exceedingly self

00:39:14.929 --> 00:39:19.449
-aware. She knows herself. Yes. And I think that

00:39:19.449 --> 00:39:21.769
makes people mad because she's comfortable with

00:39:21.769 --> 00:39:25.940
herself. A hundred percent. And she's like, I

00:39:25.940 --> 00:39:29.000
know how I'll react to this, so I just need a

00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.860
second. Or she'll be like, I know that if this

00:39:32.860 --> 00:39:36.019
goes too far, I will start yelling. Like, she

00:39:36.019 --> 00:39:38.619
is so self -aware, and I really admire that about

00:39:38.619 --> 00:39:42.199
her. Yes. And that we will get into in a couple

00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:44.920
weeks. Because we're going to start recapping

00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.800
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Yay! All that

00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.039
being said, real or sorry, Secret Lives of Mormon

00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.119
Wives, season two, episode five, The Book of

00:39:54.119 --> 00:40:03.980
Divisions. OK, so this episode, I don't. I don't

00:40:03.980 --> 00:40:05.639
know how I felt about this episode, honestly,

00:40:05.780 --> 00:40:09.559
like there was a lot. So we pick back up at Provisions

00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:12.880
where Macy's having her book announcement and.

00:40:13.469 --> 00:40:16.570
I you and I decided we are going to talk about

00:40:16.570 --> 00:40:20.170
the book when it drops in October. And I've already

00:40:20.170 --> 00:40:23.449
preordered it on my Kindle. So there's that.

00:40:25.409 --> 00:40:29.050
And we pick up where we left off, where they

00:40:29.050 --> 00:40:31.349
have the card from the truth box that's talking

00:40:31.349 --> 00:40:33.110
about Jen being fake. And no one's allowed to

00:40:33.110 --> 00:40:35.309
say who wrote or who wrote it. And then Jen starts

00:40:35.309 --> 00:40:37.929
crying. And it's a really lovely way to end the

00:40:37.929 --> 00:40:42.889
dinner. Yeah. I just don't understand the truth

00:40:42.889 --> 00:40:45.429
box thing. If it's not to stir up drama, what

00:40:45.429 --> 00:40:49.269
is it for? It's certainly not to get shit off

00:40:49.269 --> 00:40:51.289
your chest. It's to hurt people's feelings. No,

00:40:51.289 --> 00:40:57.050
it's 100 % for funsies to hurt people. And that's,

00:40:57.050 --> 00:40:59.989
by the way, just own it because I'm happy about

00:40:59.989 --> 00:41:02.289
it. I love the truth box. Do your truth box.

00:41:02.369 --> 00:41:04.570
I think if that's what you want to do, that's

00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:08.050
what you want to do. I don't know. I don't know.

00:41:08.050 --> 00:41:10.530
I think it's cowardly not to sign it, too. You

00:41:10.530 --> 00:41:13.110
should own up to who wrote it. But I think that's

00:41:13.110 --> 00:41:14.429
the whole point. It's, like, it's anonymous.

00:41:14.849 --> 00:41:17.969
I know, but, like, if you're going to say shit

00:41:17.969 --> 00:41:24.289
like, Jen's fit. I hate Demi. Like, just such

00:41:24.289 --> 00:41:27.929
vague shit like that. At least own up to it so

00:41:27.929 --> 00:41:30.550
you can talk about it. That's fair. I don't know.

00:41:30.690 --> 00:41:34.730
Anyway. Whitney. Whitney at that party was cracking.

00:41:35.570 --> 00:41:37.730
Whitney was a silly goose at that party. She

00:41:37.730 --> 00:41:40.329
said, everyone, I'm having a baby shower. Come

00:41:40.329 --> 00:41:42.889
to the baby shower. There's going to be bunnies.

00:41:43.530 --> 00:41:47.909
Jesus Christ. I was so dead. Whitney, read the

00:41:47.909 --> 00:41:52.530
room. Whitney can't read. I'm just going to say

00:41:52.530 --> 00:41:54.769
that right now. Whitney cannot read a room. No,

00:41:54.769 --> 00:41:59.070
she can't. So everyone leaves. Even though I'm

00:41:59.070 --> 00:42:02.170
not really a big fan of gin. I do think Whitney

00:42:02.170 --> 00:42:04.110
and Miranda were being incredibly good friends

00:42:04.110 --> 00:42:09.429
to her. And Jen in her confessional asked, why

00:42:09.429 --> 00:42:11.829
are these women doing this to me? I honestly

00:42:11.829 --> 00:42:15.690
feel like. Oh, wait, sorry. OK, so Jen in her

00:42:15.690 --> 00:42:17.530
confessional asked, why are these women doing

00:42:17.530 --> 00:42:21.409
this to me? And I feel like she wants blind support

00:42:21.409 --> 00:42:23.610
to do and say literally anything that she wants

00:42:23.610 --> 00:42:25.670
to do. And I think that's what she's mad about,

00:42:25.710 --> 00:42:27.849
is that that's not what she is getting from these

00:42:27.849 --> 00:42:34.239
girls. I don't know. I think that none of them

00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.719
have really told her exactly how they feel. None

00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.760
of them have really, I mean, Jesse and Demi kind

00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.539
of, but even they didn't really say it to her.

00:42:44.579 --> 00:42:48.199
They said to Zach more clearly what problems

00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.179
they had with Jen. And they're not really saying

00:42:51.179 --> 00:42:53.420
it to her face. They're just saying that they're

00:42:53.420 --> 00:42:56.960
mad at her in general. Do you see what I'm saying?

00:42:58.699 --> 00:43:02.340
Like no one has sat her down and been like, I

00:43:02.340 --> 00:43:04.239
feel like you lied about this. I feel like you

00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.460
lied about that. You shouldn't have to sit someone

00:43:06.460 --> 00:43:08.219
down. You shouldn't have to sit an adult down

00:43:08.219 --> 00:43:12.780
and be like, hey, you're a compulsive liar. You

00:43:12.780 --> 00:43:15.820
need to stop lying. I mean, I get that. But also

00:43:15.820 --> 00:43:19.039
like if I put myself in her shoes and someone

00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:23.739
just starts calling me fake anonymously, if I'm

00:43:23.739 --> 00:43:25.940
like not aware of what you're talking about,

00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:29.309
I'm going to start spiraling. What the fuck do

00:43:29.309 --> 00:43:32.230
you mean by that? I don't know. I don't know.

00:43:32.269 --> 00:43:36.409
OK, OK. I just I felt bad because I also, you

00:43:36.409 --> 00:43:38.389
know, I'm looking back on it now and knowing

00:43:38.389 --> 00:43:40.349
that, you know, she was pregnant and all of that.

00:43:40.550 --> 00:43:44.989
But she is very dramatic about the whole thing.

00:43:45.070 --> 00:43:48.829
She is. Miranda says that she thinks that the

00:43:48.829 --> 00:43:51.329
card was written by either Demi, Michaela or

00:43:51.329 --> 00:43:55.289
Layla. And we find out later that who wrote it.

00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.739
Whitney and Miranda go to a flower shop and Whitney

00:44:00.739 --> 00:44:02.739
talks more about how she's having a baby shower

00:44:02.739 --> 00:44:06.059
after the baby was born because the gender was

00:44:06.059 --> 00:44:10.300
a surprise. And I was always under the impression

00:44:10.300 --> 00:44:12.719
that you only get a baby shower for your first

00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:17.039
baby. Am I completely wrong? So. Most of the

00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.659
time, yeah. But, like, I'm going to have another

00:44:19.659 --> 00:44:21.860
baby shower, even though it's my second baby,

00:44:21.940 --> 00:44:23.780
because it's been... It's been seven years, though.

00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:26.480
And it's Kenny's first baby. Sure. So I think

00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.760
there are differences. But when you're having

00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.400
your babies back -to -back, like Whitney is,

00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.099
I don't understand it. You still have all the

00:44:34.099 --> 00:44:36.739
stuff. Right. Like, I don't know what... I don't

00:44:36.739 --> 00:44:39.179
know. Okay. If you want an excuse to have a party,

00:44:39.260 --> 00:44:42.559
that's fine. If you like it, I love it. But also,

00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:47.050
is it... This is like a thing that genuinely

00:44:47.050 --> 00:44:50.630
bothers me when people say after baby's here

00:44:50.630 --> 00:44:53.949
rather than saying after the baby is here. Yeah,

00:44:54.030 --> 00:44:57.469
like baby is their name. Yeah. I don't know why

00:44:57.469 --> 00:45:01.230
people do that. And like to no end because it's

00:45:01.230 --> 00:45:04.730
like that's just how people talk about babies.

00:45:04.809 --> 00:45:09.119
And I'm like. Yeah. You have to put the in front

00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:10.780
of the baby unless you're going to say its name.

00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.980
I do think some people do that in place of saying

00:45:13.980 --> 00:45:17.320
he or she, especially if they decided not to

00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:21.420
find out the gender. The baby is already born.

00:45:21.500 --> 00:45:25.500
She knew what the fucking gender was. I thought

00:45:25.500 --> 00:45:28.619
she was still pregnant in that. No? No, because

00:45:28.619 --> 00:45:31.360
she's having the baby shower after Billy was

00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:36.869
born. Right. Which, number one. a baby shower

00:45:36.869 --> 00:45:39.530
after the baby's already there is cheating Jesus

00:45:39.530 --> 00:45:44.309
Christ it's so weird yeah I don't know but yeah

00:45:44.309 --> 00:45:47.969
I know some people have like use baby almost

00:45:47.969 --> 00:45:50.730
as like a pronoun when they don't know the gender

00:45:50.730 --> 00:45:53.090
and that I can kind of understand but why can't

00:45:53.090 --> 00:45:56.670
you just say they I don't know I hate it um when

00:45:56.670 --> 00:45:59.869
he invites everyone to the baby shower but like

00:45:59.869 --> 00:46:02.829
only two so Miranda and Jen are the ones that

00:46:02.829 --> 00:46:05.800
show up and She's happy about that because she's

00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.860
getting closer to them and she desperately needs

00:46:07.860 --> 00:46:12.420
friends right now. Yeah. I wrote down that Miranda

00:46:12.420 --> 00:46:14.340
is so pretty and she just looks like a really

00:46:14.340 --> 00:46:16.000
cool girl. Like, I want to be friends with her.

00:46:16.099 --> 00:46:19.139
She's so stunning. And also, I need access to

00:46:19.139 --> 00:46:24.079
her closet ASAP. She always has a fit on. She

00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:27.300
looks good all the time. She's so fucking cool,

00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.539
though. Like, she's so cool. I really like Miranda.

00:46:30.739 --> 00:46:33.880
I do. I also wrote down that Whitney needs a

00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.579
stylist because she struggles with what Miranda

00:46:36.579 --> 00:46:40.940
excels in. Yeah, that's really hard. I can kind

00:46:40.940 --> 00:46:44.679
of relate to Whitney a little bit on like after

00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:48.199
you have a baby and your body changes, it does

00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:50.739
get like harder to dress yourself. But Miranda's

00:46:50.739 --> 00:46:52.519
had a baby, too. So I don't know. I don't know.

00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.039
I can see being becoming a mom doesn't immediately

00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.679
tell you to start running around with a sweater

00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:03.960
with. yarn bows on it yeah that's just not a

00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.000
thing that happens i don't think i'm not a mom

00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:10.260
i could be wrong no i forgot about that uh yeah

00:47:10.260 --> 00:47:14.239
she really has a hard time dressing herself we

00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:18.159
just watched the i won't jump ahead we'll we'll

00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.940
get into it we'll get into it but yeah she really

00:47:20.940 --> 00:47:25.179
does need some closet assistance so when he sends

00:47:25.179 --> 00:47:28.239
a group text to try and plan something really

00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.940
nice for Macy for her little pickleball thing,

00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.599
which I think is really cool. Like, like I know

00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:35.780
I had a hard time with Whitney, but like, I think

00:47:35.780 --> 00:47:37.820
she's actually making, making an effort with

00:47:37.820 --> 00:47:40.980
at least some of the girls, but it does give

00:47:40.980 --> 00:47:42.900
a little bit like she's kissing feet. Cause she

00:47:42.900 --> 00:47:44.980
wants to be back in the group. But that's what

00:47:44.980 --> 00:47:47.320
they want her to do. Like you, she can't win

00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.360
for losing. She had to, well, not even, she didn't

00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.300
have to, but like they're almost, well, she did,

00:47:53.340 --> 00:47:56.199
but. They're almost demanding it. And then when

00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.119
she does it, they're saying it's desperate. And

00:47:58.119 --> 00:47:59.420
that's what I have a hard time with because you're

00:47:59.420 --> 00:48:01.639
gaslighting her. There's nothing she could have

00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:05.039
done correctly. She was put in a situation where

00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.480
she was very damned if she does, damned if she

00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:11.639
doesn't. And to be fair, it's her fault. I won't

00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.380
take that away from anyone else. But there has

00:48:14.380 --> 00:48:16.579
to come a point where you say. I'm not going

00:48:16.579 --> 00:48:18.360
to be a mean girl, and I'm just going to, like,

00:48:18.420 --> 00:48:20.880
we're going to figure it out. Because, like,

00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.139
Michaela especially is being a fucking asshole.

00:48:23.539 --> 00:48:29.679
Yeah. 100%. I do feel like they're making her

00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.719
earn that second chance, honey. Like, bullying

00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:37.900
her a little bit. Oh, yeah. Taylor goes to her

00:48:37.900 --> 00:48:40.579
mom's house, and we get a flashback of Taylor's

00:48:40.579 --> 00:48:43.059
rotten stepdad, who I literally never want to

00:48:43.059 --> 00:48:45.079
see again. I hope he's never on the show again.

00:48:45.889 --> 00:48:48.929
I honestly hope that what he said at that cookout

00:48:48.929 --> 00:48:52.190
makes him never on camera again. No, I can definitively

00:48:52.190 --> 00:48:55.969
tell you the producers when that happened, they

00:48:55.969 --> 00:49:00.289
have never been so happy in their entire lives

00:49:00.289 --> 00:49:02.989
because they said, oh, this man is out of his

00:49:02.989 --> 00:49:05.889
mind and he will say whatever comes to his mind.

00:49:05.929 --> 00:49:07.570
Well, it's a talking point, right? Like we're

00:49:07.570 --> 00:49:10.659
talking about it, you know, like it. draws attention

00:49:10.659 --> 00:49:13.139
yeah but you know what else drew attention was

00:49:13.139 --> 00:49:15.639
probably him on january 6th allegedly this is

00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.559
my opinion i'm not getting sued yeah i would

00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.599
just like to know where he was i i just want

00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:25.500
to know i don't like him i don't like him at

00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:29.380
all um they talk about taylor posting tiktoks

00:49:29.380 --> 00:49:30.880
that would suggest she's getting back together

00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:34.480
with with dakota and then aspen asks if they're

00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.139
still having sex and taylor's honest about it

00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:45.940
Yeah, I. OK, as weird as it is to talk about

00:49:45.940 --> 00:49:51.320
out loud, I was glad that they said that out

00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.659
loud. And then in the confessionals, both Taylor

00:49:54.659 --> 00:49:57.179
and Dakota were honest about the fact that they're

00:49:57.179 --> 00:50:02.360
still having sex because it makes it so much

00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:06.000
clearer. what is going on you know what i mean

00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.860
like that line was a little hard to follow like

00:50:08.860 --> 00:50:13.179
who in the world would stay around this man like

00:50:13.179 --> 00:50:15.199
what is happening but now that you know that

00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.480
they're still having sex it all starts to make

00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.960
sense yeah it kind of clicks but you know what

00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:24.629
i could have done without was yeah it was Leanne

00:50:24.629 --> 00:50:27.309
saying, oh, try your vibrator. And then they

00:50:27.309 --> 00:50:28.630
like start to joke about it. And she's like,

00:50:28.670 --> 00:50:29.989
I don't like hearing this. I don't want to hear

00:50:29.989 --> 00:50:31.230
this. I don't want to hear this. And I'm like,

00:50:31.230 --> 00:50:33.070
bitch, you brought it up. You're the one who

00:50:33.070 --> 00:50:36.469
just told your mom you're having sex. No, no,

00:50:36.469 --> 00:50:38.949
no. Leanne is the one that got weird about it.

00:50:39.050 --> 00:50:42.750
Oh. And she's the one that brought it up. Leanne,

00:50:43.030 --> 00:50:46.230
honestly, honey, you're going to have to draw

00:50:46.230 --> 00:50:50.130
a boundary at some point of like, are you a mom

00:50:50.130 --> 00:50:53.440
or are you a friend? Are you trying to be your

00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.820
daughter? Are you anyway? Well, that's that's

00:50:56.820 --> 00:51:00.980
another conversation. Yeah. I just I don't understand

00:51:00.980 --> 00:51:06.980
Leanne. She's so. I don't know. She's like so

00:51:06.980 --> 00:51:09.079
lenient about talking about some things and then

00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.400
some things she's like, oh, no. Why would you

00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.599
say that to your mom? It's like it's a thing

00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.360
where she's like removed enough from the church.

00:51:16.380 --> 00:51:19.659
But like she like. wakes up from being removed

00:51:19.659 --> 00:51:21.340
from the church to where she's like oh i'm weird

00:51:21.340 --> 00:51:23.940
about it but then like i also feel like she's

00:51:23.940 --> 00:51:25.860
on camera and she's like the optics of this people

00:51:25.860 --> 00:51:27.940
are gonna see this like it's there's a lot we'll

00:51:27.940 --> 00:51:29.960
get into it eventually like when i start talking

00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:31.880
about like the church and how fucked up some

00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:34.139
of this stuff is but that's i can definitively

00:51:34.139 --> 00:51:35.960
tell you that's what it is and once we recap

00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:39.159
the last episode there's more to say about leanne

00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:43.880
oh absolutely um Whitney calls Macy because Michaela

00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.579
posted a TikTok that was a little hateful and

00:51:46.579 --> 00:51:50.519
Macy showed up in it. And I feel like Michaela

00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:55.059
is going too far here. And I think Whitney handled

00:51:55.059 --> 00:51:57.579
the conversation with or I think Macy handled

00:51:57.579 --> 00:51:59.300
the conversation with Whitney really well. I

00:51:59.300 --> 00:52:01.440
think they both handled it very well. My queen.

00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:04.780
Macy is so full of grace and elegance. I love

00:52:04.780 --> 00:52:06.840
her so much. Macy can do no wrong in my eyes

00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.739
as far as I'm concerned. Whitney decides she

00:52:10.739 --> 00:52:12.440
wants to talk to Michaela one -on -one before

00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.940
the girls trip. And I'm just like, God bless.

00:52:16.059 --> 00:52:19.440
Like that's, that's brave of you. And. Yeah.

00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.440
And then Whitney says, mom talk is driven by

00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.059
love and unity. And I wonder if she's going to

00:52:27.059 --> 00:52:29.860
keep this same level of energy going into the

00:52:29.860 --> 00:52:31.739
end of the season. She didn't have that energy

00:52:31.739 --> 00:52:33.940
last season when she was talking shit about all

00:52:33.940 --> 00:52:37.309
her friends. Number one. And number two. I feel

00:52:37.309 --> 00:52:39.829
like Michaela's just kind of a coward. Like,

00:52:39.829 --> 00:52:42.750
I feel like she doesn't want Whitney in the group.

00:52:42.969 --> 00:52:46.849
And instead of just saying that out loud to anyone,

00:52:47.070 --> 00:52:50.030
she's just bullying the ever -loving fuck out

00:52:50.030 --> 00:52:52.909
of her to try to make her go away. Because she

00:52:52.909 --> 00:52:55.309
doesn't want to be responsible for Whitney not

00:52:55.309 --> 00:52:58.179
being in MomTalk, but she... Doesn't want her

00:52:58.179 --> 00:53:00.179
there. Exactly. She wants it to be Whitney's

00:53:00.179 --> 00:53:02.059
decision. So she's going to make it as uncomfortable

00:53:02.059 --> 00:53:05.420
as possible. Yeah. So she's like being mean out

00:53:05.420 --> 00:53:09.780
loud and like making it as crazy as she possibly

00:53:09.780 --> 00:53:13.719
can without ever just saying out loud, I'm not

00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.500
comfortable with Whitney here. Right. You could

00:53:16.500 --> 00:53:20.539
have just said that to all the girls and I bet

00:53:20.539 --> 00:53:23.380
they would have figured it out. Yeah. It's that

00:53:23.380 --> 00:53:26.340
simple. Just communicate diva. Whitney has wronged

00:53:26.340 --> 00:53:28.800
other girls in the group, too. Like, I don't.

00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:32.139
For sure. I don't understand it. But, like, also,

00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:36.440
you have to have a villain. And, like, at some

00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:38.000
point, I think you just kind of have to accept

00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.739
that, like. Someone's got to stay the call. Someone's,

00:53:41.739 --> 00:53:45.030
yeah. Or nothing will happen. And also. You're

00:53:45.030 --> 00:53:47.530
going to have to be involved in life with people

00:53:47.530 --> 00:53:49.070
that you don't like sometimes, and you have the

00:53:49.070 --> 00:53:50.730
right to remove yourself from the situation,

00:53:50.989 --> 00:53:53.030
but you can't just be an asshole because it's

00:53:53.030 --> 00:53:57.230
ugly. I think that's where Michaela's cowardice

00:53:57.230 --> 00:53:59.789
kind of comes from, is I do think she's kind

00:53:59.789 --> 00:54:02.550
of afraid that if she says she wants Whitney

00:54:02.550 --> 00:54:07.130
out, they'll boot her instead. Oh, okay. I get

00:54:07.130 --> 00:54:11.510
that, yeah. Well, we'll see how it shakes out.

00:54:12.049 --> 00:54:14.349
But I think the girls really like Michaela. I

00:54:14.349 --> 00:54:16.670
think that she just can't see that she's well

00:54:16.670 --> 00:54:18.409
-liked. No, I think she just needs to grow up

00:54:18.409 --> 00:54:20.670
a little bit. A hundred percent. And I mean,

00:54:20.690 --> 00:54:23.090
a lot has happened in her life to make her kind

00:54:23.090 --> 00:54:28.190
of juvenile for her age. But girl, I did not

00:54:28.190 --> 00:54:30.590
like, I did not see the side of her last season

00:54:30.590 --> 00:54:33.530
either. Like I thought she was very just chill.

00:54:33.750 --> 00:54:35.670
I wonder if she was this way in like high school

00:54:35.670 --> 00:54:38.690
and college and like. if this is just how she

00:54:38.690 --> 00:54:40.389
treated other people and this just feels normal

00:54:40.389 --> 00:54:43.309
to her like if you don't like someone this is

00:54:43.309 --> 00:54:48.289
how you act to them yeah yeah i don't know they're

00:54:48.289 --> 00:54:51.829
all very young michaela and jen especially so

00:54:51.829 --> 00:54:55.670
i feel like maybe she really just is in that

00:54:55.670 --> 00:54:59.269
stage of life like i wasn't training people like

00:54:59.269 --> 00:55:03.429
this at 24 no no certainly not certainly not

00:55:03.429 --> 00:55:07.300
um Jesse and Demi go to Pilates, and Jesse expects

00:55:07.300 --> 00:55:09.300
people to believe that she only works out one

00:55:09.300 --> 00:55:12.059
to two days a year, which is a blatant fucking

00:55:12.059 --> 00:55:15.579
lie. If she only works out one to two days a

00:55:15.579 --> 00:55:18.940
year, she's getting cool sculpting the other

00:55:18.940 --> 00:55:24.489
360 days a year. Like, she looks... Incredible.

00:55:24.550 --> 00:55:27.909
And maybe she has good genetics. Maybe like whatever.

00:55:28.150 --> 00:55:30.369
Some people are naturally skinny, but she's not

00:55:30.369 --> 00:55:33.329
just skinny. She has like toned muscles. Yeah.

00:55:33.670 --> 00:55:38.250
Like I don't buy it. I just can't buy it. I don't.

00:55:38.250 --> 00:55:41.369
Or maybe she's like does a lot of housework or

00:55:41.369 --> 00:55:44.449
something. I don't know. Well, she's on her feet

00:55:44.449 --> 00:55:47.730
all day at the salon. I'll buy that. But like

00:55:47.730 --> 00:55:53.010
standing doesn't. tone you yeah i will say like

00:55:53.010 --> 00:55:55.949
doing hair kind of does like work out your arms

00:55:55.949 --> 00:55:59.210
okay that's fair yeah but like but you've got

00:55:59.210 --> 00:56:02.349
incredible legs she goes to these workout classes

00:56:02.349 --> 00:56:06.369
and she's not struggling she's not like no she's

00:56:06.369 --> 00:56:10.289
like and she's also so fucking hot like i know

00:56:10.619 --> 00:56:12.900
I wonder if part of it is like she can't like

00:56:12.900 --> 00:56:15.960
take credit for the work she puts in and she's

00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:17.860
just like, I don't know. It just happens like

00:56:17.860 --> 00:56:20.599
which. Yeah. I kind of hate people like that.

00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:22.679
But at the same time, like the church will do

00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:26.059
that to you. I get it. I do. And I do feel like

00:56:26.059 --> 00:56:29.460
she grinds the fuck out. I feel like she if she's

00:56:29.460 --> 00:56:32.639
working out, she's waking up at like 5 a .m.,

00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.420
working out, going to the salon all day and then

00:56:35.420 --> 00:56:38.760
coming home to her husband. Like, that's a lot.

00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.599
Oh, yeah. In, like, an everyday routine. Plus,

00:56:41.699 --> 00:56:44.920
she's filming this show. Mm -hmm. Like, that's

00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:49.320
a lot. Um, Jesse and Demi decide they're not

00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.039
going to Whitney's baby shower, so instead they're

00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:53.920
going to do a hibachi night for everyone not

00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:57.960
going, and I fucking love hibachi so much. Me

00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:00.179
too. I've had hibachi twice in, like, the last

00:57:00.179 --> 00:57:03.789
two weeks. I'm so I love Hibashi. I love the

00:57:03.789 --> 00:57:06.050
whole song and dance. I love the show. I love.

00:57:06.170 --> 00:57:08.230
Yeah, I love the theatrics. The catching the

00:57:08.230 --> 00:57:12.550
piece of chicken in your mouth. I love it. Jesse

00:57:12.550 --> 00:57:15.230
thinks it's weird that Whitney invited the group

00:57:15.230 --> 00:57:17.829
because it's assumed that half the girls weren't.

00:57:18.010 --> 00:57:21.469
won't show up but again i feel like if anyone

00:57:21.469 --> 00:57:23.429
had been left out of the invite it would have

00:57:23.429 --> 00:57:25.929
been a whole thing so i feel like whitney cannot

00:57:25.929 --> 00:57:29.289
win for losing demi is being so petty and again

00:57:29.289 --> 00:57:31.050
it's whitney being damned if she does damned

00:57:31.050 --> 00:57:33.469
if she doesn't because like you would have been

00:57:33.469 --> 00:57:36.710
mad if you didn't get an invitation it's an olive

00:57:36.710 --> 00:57:41.349
branch she is inviting you to celebrate her baby

00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.460
It's an olive branch. You don't have to accept

00:57:45.460 --> 00:57:47.699
it. You don't have to grab the olive branch.

00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:52.000
But you don't have to be such a petty bitch about

00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:55.599
it either. She's such a bitch. God. And I hate

00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:59.500
saying that about a woman, but Demi. Not about

00:57:59.500 --> 00:58:02.039
Demi. I do not feel bad about that. She is a

00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:07.800
bitch. God. And Demi says she wants a calm, chill

00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:10.380
girls trip. Shut the fuck up. No, you don't.

00:58:10.380 --> 00:58:12.360
You've never wanted a calm, chill trip in your

00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.440
entire fucking life. This is what you live for.

00:58:14.460 --> 00:58:18.280
You live for discourse in the group. And the

00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:23.139
second that you feel the effects of that, then

00:58:23.139 --> 00:58:25.460
you get on the cross. You love this shit, though.

00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.340
I just feel like like this scene is such a good

00:58:29.340 --> 00:58:33.409
example of why I feel this way. The whole time

00:58:33.409 --> 00:58:36.449
I was watching season two, Demi specifically

00:58:36.449 --> 00:58:41.670
is so scripted. Like she's thought about what

00:58:41.670 --> 00:58:45.230
she wants to say long before she was ever in

00:58:45.230 --> 00:58:48.829
front of the camera. She gives script. I would

00:58:48.829 --> 00:58:52.590
go as far as to say that she paid writers to

00:58:52.590 --> 00:58:54.710
write some of this for her. A hundred percent.

00:58:54.750 --> 00:58:57.829
Or she just like hopped on chat GPT. Maybe. She,

00:58:57.949 --> 00:59:02.449
I swear to God. Famously your best friend. This

00:59:02.449 --> 00:59:04.469
kind of gets confirmed in the reunion, which

00:59:04.469 --> 00:59:07.269
we'll get to. But like, yeah, she wants to control

00:59:07.269 --> 00:59:11.250
this narrative so badly that I genuinely think

00:59:11.250 --> 00:59:13.170
she's coming up with what she's going to say

00:59:13.170 --> 00:59:16.670
to her friends before she's ever there, which

00:59:16.670 --> 00:59:21.730
is just weird. It is. So we go to Jen and Zach

00:59:21.730 --> 00:59:25.199
and apparently Jen's living in an Airbnb. love

00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:28.179
that for her i guess um she talks in her confessional

00:59:28.179 --> 00:59:31.179
about how she chose mom talk and how she feels

00:59:31.179 --> 00:59:35.559
like she made a bad choice and i'm like mom talk

00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.719
or being a member of mom talk does not require

00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:41.199
you to lie to everyone i do not understand why

00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:43.559
you feel like mom talk is the problem here because

00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:48.099
you have made the decision to lie to everyone

00:59:48.099 --> 00:59:51.769
that you and your friends come across yes Everyone

00:59:51.769 --> 00:59:54.130
you love, you have lied to. Everyone that you

00:59:54.130 --> 00:59:57.929
hate, you've lied to. Yeah, and I don't understand

00:59:57.929 --> 01:00:00.429
this whole... They're acting like you signed

01:00:00.429 --> 01:00:04.570
a contract to be in MomTalk. You're just in a

01:00:04.570 --> 01:00:07.869
group that makes TikToks and is now on Hulu.

01:00:08.010 --> 01:00:12.269
You're not signing away your rights or anything.

01:00:13.349 --> 01:00:17.050
It's so strange because no other friend group...

01:00:17.369 --> 01:00:20.610
that I've ever witnessed is like, I just want

01:00:20.610 --> 01:00:24.590
to be part of this name that we've made up. Like

01:00:24.590 --> 01:00:29.769
it's so strange to me. And it's like, mom talks,

01:00:29.769 --> 01:00:31.889
not the problem. And Zach's not the problem.

01:00:31.969 --> 01:00:35.150
We talk about this all the time. It's the difference

01:00:35.150 --> 01:00:38.230
in values between the two. You got to pick one.

01:00:38.309 --> 01:00:42.929
Right. Yeah. I, I mean, I, she can, she's a liar.

01:00:43.010 --> 01:00:46.469
Like I, I do think that. Yeah, there is a difference

01:00:46.469 --> 01:00:48.309
in values between her and Zach, but I also do

01:00:48.309 --> 01:00:51.409
think Zach is part of the problem. I don't think

01:00:51.409 --> 01:00:54.610
in this scenario, I think that he is an innocent

01:00:54.610 --> 01:00:57.510
bystander, but I think that he contributes to

01:00:57.510 --> 01:01:01.269
the problem. Well, and you have to see like why

01:01:01.269 --> 01:01:04.090
she wasn't comfortable with telling him the whole

01:01:04.090 --> 01:01:06.570
truth about the Chippendales thing is because

01:01:06.570 --> 01:01:10.650
she knew how he would react. Yes, that is true.

01:01:10.710 --> 01:01:15.380
So it's like, yes, she's lying. but to some point

01:01:15.380 --> 01:01:17.920
I can see what led her to do that. And not that

01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:20.739
it was ever okay for her to do, but I can see

01:01:20.739 --> 01:01:23.340
why that was the easy way out for her. Absolutely.

01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:25.440
Because she knows that her husband doesn't agree

01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:29.780
with what's going on in mom talk. Right. It's

01:01:29.780 --> 01:01:33.360
that simple. I don't know. Um, she feels like

01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.500
Jesse and Demi are trying to get the girls to

01:01:35.500 --> 01:01:38.440
turn against her. And I feel like we have found

01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:42.500
ourselves in a situation where jan is not living

01:01:42.500 --> 01:01:45.159
in the same reality as we are she just needs

01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:48.179
some accountability yes she just needs to hold

01:01:48.179 --> 01:01:51.139
herself accountable for what she's done and it's

01:01:51.139 --> 01:01:54.760
okay to say okay yeah i haven't been the best

01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:58.039
friend i haven't been the best wife and then

01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:02.730
explain yourself girl be like i feel like I have

01:02:02.730 --> 01:02:05.230
my hands in two pots and they don't get along.

01:02:05.510 --> 01:02:08.550
Just say that out loud. And I bet your friends

01:02:08.550 --> 01:02:12.210
and your husband who all want you to be happy

01:02:12.210 --> 01:02:17.090
will accommodate you. I think to some extent,

01:02:17.170 --> 01:02:20.030
both sides would try to accommodate you if they

01:02:20.030 --> 01:02:23.170
knew how you were feeling. Well, and if mom talk

01:02:23.170 --> 01:02:25.670
is truly all about lifting other women up and

01:02:25.670 --> 01:02:27.809
doing that, I think if you're honest about that,

01:02:27.869 --> 01:02:33.679
you will be met with. Grace. Grace and like open

01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:37.780
arms and love. But instead, you are doing everything

01:02:37.780 --> 01:02:39.820
in your power to fuck that up. It's almost like

01:02:39.820 --> 01:02:43.320
she's trying to create a facade and she's just

01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:48.579
not good at it. Yes. I agree. Jesse goes to meet

01:02:48.579 --> 01:02:51.519
up with Jen and I literally wrote Jesse is so

01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:53.400
pretty and I feel like she does such a good job

01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.059
talking in her confessionals. Her eyes are so

01:02:56.059 --> 01:03:00.119
blue. Have you ever noticed that? They're like.

01:03:00.570 --> 01:03:03.690
bright blue they're stunning and i don't think

01:03:03.690 --> 01:03:06.110
it's contacts i've never noticed her eyes specifically

01:03:06.110 --> 01:03:08.369
but i i like i look at her and i'm just like

01:03:08.369 --> 01:03:10.710
i'm looking at the face of an angel i am looking

01:03:10.710 --> 01:03:15.670
into a face that was sculpted by the lord and

01:03:15.670 --> 01:03:19.909
a little bit by heather but perhaps but here

01:03:19.909 --> 01:03:21.849
we are but she looks stunning she looks stunning

01:03:21.849 --> 01:03:26.019
she is gorgeous And listen, if you use some of

01:03:26.019 --> 01:03:28.320
your millions of dollars to help you look gorgeous,

01:03:28.579 --> 01:03:33.440
I support you. I support that. In the car with

01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.800
Zach on the way to meet Jessie, Jen says that

01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:37.699
the girls haven't seen the other side of her

01:03:37.699 --> 01:03:40.880
and that she was raised in the hood. Oh, cringe,

01:03:41.219 --> 01:03:43.880
cringe, cringe, cringe, cringe. I've never cringed

01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:46.260
so hard in my life. When she said, meet me outside.

01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:49.880
How about that? I said, oh, Jesus Christ, Jen,

01:03:50.059 --> 01:03:53.719
you. What really got me was when she says, yeah,

01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:56.860
I was born in Provo, but I was raised in the

01:03:56.860 --> 01:04:00.099
hood. I love that Zach has to remind her like,

01:04:00.179 --> 01:04:02.380
hey, we're not related to Ben Affleck. We're

01:04:02.380 --> 01:04:06.360
not. You were born in Provo, Utah. I do think

01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:11.480
that. For as many faults as Zach has. He lives

01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:16.139
in reality. He does live to tie Jen back to Earth.

01:04:16.780 --> 01:04:24.659
I mean, someone has to. So she shows up to this.

01:04:25.759 --> 01:04:27.960
I think it's a dessert place. I don't know. But

01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.280
Jen tries to spin the situation into one where

01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:32.960
Jesse is genuinely trying to hurt her. And Jesse

01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.059
flat out gets to the point where she says, you

01:04:35.059 --> 01:04:37.159
are a liar. You are the liar in this situation.

01:04:37.300 --> 01:04:40.940
So at this point, Jen has heard it. I feel like

01:04:40.940 --> 01:04:43.900
we've really lost the plot when it comes to this

01:04:43.900 --> 01:04:46.199
whole Chippendales thing. Because at this point,

01:04:46.300 --> 01:04:47.980
if you really look at it for what it is, it's

01:04:47.980 --> 01:04:50.659
just a bad idea that was poorly executed. It

01:04:50.659 --> 01:04:53.579
was never that serious. No. It was never that

01:04:53.579 --> 01:04:59.360
serious ever. If it was that serious, Zach could

01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:01.199
have stood up and said, I'm not comfortable with

01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:03.920
this. We need to leave. Jen could have said,

01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:07.199
hey, I didn't know that this was the extent that

01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:10.440
it was going to go to. No one did that in this

01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:12.920
situation. And we have blown it so far out of

01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:15.679
proportion. And I am so sick and tired of hearing

01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:18.840
about it. I know. I know. It just needs to be

01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:22.760
dropped. Like, it seriously just needs to be

01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:27.260
dropped. The Ben Affleck thing comes up again.

01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:34.679
And. I know, I know. I can't I can't handle it.

01:05:35.579 --> 01:05:38.639
It's another thing that, again, it's just not

01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:40.860
that serious. And you literally just never need

01:05:40.860 --> 01:05:42.639
to talk about it again. If you just stop saying

01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:45.480
it, it goes away. Seriously. But you were so

01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:47.019
obsessed with it. Like you were so obsessed.

01:05:47.699 --> 01:05:54.219
And then Jen. Jen planned this. Jen planned what

01:05:54.219 --> 01:05:56.500
she says here, where she says she knows about

01:05:56.500 --> 01:05:58.659
Jesse's past. And then she says, if you're looking

01:05:58.659 --> 01:06:01.440
to swing with us, it's a no. And then she walks

01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:03.460
out like she just dropped the biggest truth bomb.

01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:07.340
Like the anger behind it, too. It was so misplaced.

01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:13.139
Like Jesse invited you here to try to clear the

01:06:13.139 --> 01:06:16.719
air. And now you're just throwing stones for

01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:19.519
for no reason. All she wanted you to do is be

01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:23.440
accountable. And you couldn't. And on top of

01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:25.780
that, you're going to bring up her past in the

01:06:25.780 --> 01:06:29.380
swinging. I don't I just can't follow. Let me

01:06:29.380 --> 01:06:32.239
tell you something right now. If Jesse said,

01:06:32.500 --> 01:06:35.739
hey, I want to swing with you, Travis. What an

01:06:35.739 --> 01:06:38.079
honor and a privilege. Oh, my God. We don't even

01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:40.820
need to invite Kenny Queen. I don't need to hear

01:06:40.820 --> 01:06:44.039
anything else. I'm all in. Yeah. Take me away.

01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:49.289
And I listen, I. You know, given my orientation,

01:06:49.769 --> 01:06:52.570
I would hope that Jordan's there. That's that's

01:06:52.570 --> 01:06:54.170
not a deal breaker for me if he's not, though.

01:06:54.230 --> 01:06:56.130
If it's just me and Jesse, she's the most beautiful

01:06:56.130 --> 01:06:57.750
woman on God's green earth. And if I just got

01:06:57.750 --> 01:06:59.389
to sit there and brush her hair, how lucky would

01:06:59.389 --> 01:07:04.150
I be? She and Macy both. Oh, my God. Wow. Wow.

01:07:04.250 --> 01:07:08.090
Wow. Wow. Wow. So Michaela's in the car with

01:07:08.090 --> 01:07:12.030
Macy and Macy decides that when they're five

01:07:12.030 --> 01:07:14.969
minutes away from meeting up with Whitney, that

01:07:14.969 --> 01:07:17.360
this is the time to say, hey. We're going to

01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.559
meet up with Whitney. I feel like that was a

01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:22.360
good way to do it. You kind of had to trap her

01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:24.000
into it because she never would have said yes.

01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:27.079
No, 100 percent. But like Michaela is a mean

01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.320
girl about it. And it really does seem like Whitney

01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:32.699
is trying to extend the olive branch. I wrote

01:07:32.699 --> 01:07:35.260
down expand the olive branch, but we get it.

01:07:36.340 --> 01:07:38.480
Michaela is completely closed off to it. But

01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:42.460
to be fair. I do feel like this was really sprung

01:07:42.460 --> 01:07:45.199
on Michaela and like I would be very pissed about

01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:47.480
it, too. And also there's nothing wrong with

01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:50.900
rejecting Whitney's olive branch. If you don't

01:07:50.900 --> 01:07:53.559
want to be friends with Whitney, that's fine.

01:07:53.699 --> 01:07:56.360
You don't have to be friends with everyone. That's

01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:58.079
where the conversation should end then. Yeah,

01:07:58.219 --> 01:08:00.500
that's the end of it. I agree. And what you don't

01:08:00.500 --> 01:08:04.889
need to do is keep talking about Whitney. That's

01:08:04.889 --> 01:08:06.269
what you don't need to do. You don't need to

01:08:06.269 --> 01:08:08.769
make passive aggressive TikToks. You never need

01:08:08.769 --> 01:08:11.489
to bring up her name ever again. Because you're

01:08:11.489 --> 01:08:13.210
continuing to give it life at this point. You're

01:08:13.210 --> 01:08:15.849
the problem. Yes. That's how I feel about it

01:08:15.849 --> 01:08:20.369
at least. I just feel like she is being so not

01:08:20.369 --> 01:08:22.670
chill about it. Like if you don't want to be

01:08:22.670 --> 01:08:24.210
friends, don't be friends. But it doesn't have

01:08:24.210 --> 01:08:28.310
to be this like constant swirl of drama. I agree.

01:08:28.449 --> 01:08:30.869
Because I also feel like Whitney would drop it

01:08:30.869 --> 01:08:33.829
and just never talk to Michaela if Michaela would

01:08:33.829 --> 01:08:36.569
stop posting all these TikToks and saying mean

01:08:36.569 --> 01:08:41.529
shit. Right. I agree. Decayla goes over to Taylor's

01:08:41.529 --> 01:08:44.770
house and Taylor's made the decision that they

01:08:44.770 --> 01:08:47.250
need a break. And I feel like she does a really,

01:08:47.270 --> 01:08:49.949
really good job of being honest about this. And

01:08:49.949 --> 01:08:52.029
I think she handles this very, very well. And

01:08:52.029 --> 01:08:54.210
I think therapy is really working for her. I'm

01:08:54.210 --> 01:08:56.329
very proud of Taylor in this moment. Yeah, she

01:08:56.329 --> 01:09:01.130
was very mature in that whole thing. I think

01:09:01.130 --> 01:09:03.789
as soon as she decided to take a break from Dakota,

01:09:04.090 --> 01:09:08.050
she's she seems lighter. Yeah. And she seems

01:09:08.050 --> 01:09:10.670
more like a grown up. Yes. She's acting more

01:09:10.670 --> 01:09:15.050
like an adult. Yes. Dakota looks like he's going

01:09:15.050 --> 01:09:17.210
to cry, and I'll buy that he was, like, actually...

01:09:17.210 --> 01:09:19.609
He's a crier. Yes. Like, I'll buy that it was

01:09:19.609 --> 01:09:22.229
real, because, like, I feel like some guys would

01:09:22.229 --> 01:09:24.449
be like, oh, no, like, he's full of shit. No,

01:09:24.529 --> 01:09:27.149
I think that was real. He cries all the time.

01:09:27.289 --> 01:09:30.810
He does. Like, yeah, I believe. And he acknowledges

01:09:30.810 --> 01:09:32.789
in his confessional that he's triggering for

01:09:32.789 --> 01:09:36.149
Taylor and decides to... focus on being a good

01:09:36.149 --> 01:09:39.250
dad forever. And I feel like if we can follow

01:09:39.250 --> 01:09:41.630
through on this, what a day the Lord will have

01:09:41.630 --> 01:09:43.970
made. That is so beautiful, right? Because I

01:09:43.970 --> 01:09:45.810
think that's really their problem is they have

01:09:45.810 --> 01:09:48.550
this love for each other and they're not willing

01:09:48.550 --> 01:09:51.170
to admit that it can't be romantic. It's okay

01:09:51.170 --> 01:09:54.510
to, I think it's honestly great if you're just

01:09:54.510 --> 01:09:56.510
going to co -parent and that's your relationship

01:09:56.510 --> 01:09:59.050
and you love each other. I think that's wonderful.

01:09:59.449 --> 01:10:03.689
Pour that into your son. Yes. Yeah. But you don't

01:10:03.689 --> 01:10:06.970
need to keep having sex and you don't need to

01:10:06.970 --> 01:10:11.449
try and work out your relationship. I agree.

01:10:12.350 --> 01:10:16.189
So we'll see how that shakes out. We get to Whitney's

01:10:16.189 --> 01:10:18.850
baby shower. Miranda, Macy, Taylor and Jen show

01:10:18.850 --> 01:10:23.149
up. And we find out that the bunnies are like

01:10:23.149 --> 01:10:25.090
a replacement for people wanting to hold the

01:10:25.090 --> 01:10:31.390
baby. And I, I feel like. If you don't want someone

01:10:31.390 --> 01:10:34.130
to hold your fucking baby, they don't get to

01:10:34.130 --> 01:10:36.470
hold your baby and you don't need to give them

01:10:36.470 --> 01:10:39.409
shit like you do not owe them anything. And I

01:10:39.409 --> 01:10:41.529
have a very hard time with people that like will

01:10:41.529 --> 01:10:45.369
push this boundary. And I feel like Whitney said.

01:10:46.300 --> 01:10:48.119
I have people in my life that aren't going to

01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:49.920
be okay with this, so I'm going to make a joke

01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:51.760
out of it and, like, do the bunny thing. But,

01:10:51.779 --> 01:10:54.119
like, I feel very uncomfortable with people that

01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:55.600
are not willing to accept when people don't want

01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.300
them to hold their kids. I don't like that. I

01:10:57.300 --> 01:11:00.960
didn't like that rationalization of the bunnies.

01:11:00.979 --> 01:11:03.199
Like, I didn't like that being the reasoning.

01:11:03.539 --> 01:11:05.460
Like, if you want to have bunnies at a baby shower,

01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:10.069
like, whatever. Be cute. Be fun. But don't. You

01:11:10.069 --> 01:11:11.970
shouldn't. It's weird. It shouldn't be a requirement,

01:11:12.069 --> 01:11:14.250
though, so people don't, like, try to hold your

01:11:14.250 --> 01:11:18.130
kid. Yeah. You know? And also, what is with people

01:11:18.130 --> 01:11:21.869
even trying to hold fresh, brand new babies?

01:11:21.890 --> 01:11:23.729
It's weird to me. I don't want to hold anyone's

01:11:23.729 --> 01:11:26.590
baby. I'm sorry. When they're weeks old? When

01:11:26.590 --> 01:11:29.970
they're any age, I don't want to hold a baby.

01:11:30.449 --> 01:11:33.289
Period. Sorry. When I had Jack, a lot of people

01:11:33.289 --> 01:11:36.689
came to the hospital. And, like, that was fine

01:11:36.689 --> 01:11:42.159
because it was all. basically where I would have

01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:45.279
drawn the line is if like every single person

01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:47.880
I've ever met also showed up to the hospital

01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:50.399
to try to hold a baby. I don't care who it is.

01:11:50.420 --> 01:11:52.779
If it's family, if it's your sister, if it is,

01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:56.199
if it's your parents, if you are not in a place

01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:58.600
where you want your kid to be held for what,

01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.699
I don't care what the reason is. If you are not

01:12:01.699 --> 01:12:03.359
comfortable with that and that's the boundary

01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:06.479
you're setting. That's enough. People have to

01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:09.359
respect that. You can't just, like, claim a baby

01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:11.100
that's not yours. It's so weird. They can respect

01:12:11.100 --> 01:12:16.739
it or not. Fuck you. Period. Sorry. So, we find

01:12:16.739 --> 01:12:19.279
out Connor got a vasectomy, so I guess this is

01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:23.300
their last kid. Yeah. We also, what were you

01:12:23.300 --> 01:12:28.319
going to say? Sorry. Nothing. Okay. We also find

01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:30.460
out that Layla was the one who wrote the note

01:12:30.460 --> 01:12:33.119
about Jen being fake. And Jen says that she feels

01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:34.979
like it was Layla's attempt at fitting in because

01:12:34.979 --> 01:12:39.479
Jesse and Demi are being mean to her. No. I'm

01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:42.680
rolling my eyes. I'm rolling my eyes. Jen, when

01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.579
are you going to admit that you are the problem?

01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:49.560
Layla recognized that you were a liar and de

01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:55.399
facto fake. Fake against the truth. I just don't

01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:58.399
understand. Like, Jen really is one of those

01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:02.079
people who, like, drama just surrounds me. Drama

01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:04.020
follows me all around. Does it? And, like, she

01:13:04.020 --> 01:13:07.460
never realizes that it's her. Does it follow

01:13:07.460 --> 01:13:09.720
you around everywhere? Does it seem like you're

01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:11.960
always in drama? Because you're a fucking liar,

01:13:12.119 --> 01:13:16.479
Jen. You are the drama. Like, I don't know when

01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:19.340
that starts clicking for people, but, like...

01:13:19.659 --> 01:13:22.479
If you are a person that cannot escape drama,

01:13:22.699 --> 01:13:25.880
if you feel like people are always turning against

01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:31.619
you, you have to look within. That's the long

01:13:31.619 --> 01:13:37.260
and short of it. So we cut to the hibachi dinner

01:13:37.260 --> 01:13:40.260
at Jesse's house where Demi, Layla and Michaela

01:13:40.260 --> 01:13:44.180
show up. Jessie talks about in her confessional

01:13:44.180 --> 01:13:46.579
that she's done the swinging thing before. She

01:13:46.579 --> 01:13:49.699
shared it with Jen and she feels hurt that now

01:13:49.699 --> 01:13:52.060
Jen is weaponizing that against her. Saying it

01:13:52.060 --> 01:13:54.920
on camera. Because she's an asshole. Yeah. Like,

01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.859
and here's the God's honest truth. I don't care

01:13:57.859 --> 01:13:59.819
if anyone's ever been a swinger or whatever,

01:13:59.960 --> 01:14:03.659
but if it's something that you aren't comfortable

01:14:03.659 --> 01:14:05.779
with the world knowing and you shared it in confidence,

01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:08.779
like, Jen knew what the fuck she was doing there.

01:14:09.269 --> 01:14:11.750
That was gross. To bring it up on camera. Yes.

01:14:11.810 --> 01:14:15.329
And she knew it was, too. 100%. That was pure

01:14:15.329 --> 01:14:20.710
venom from Jen. And then Taylor, back at Whitney's

01:14:20.710 --> 01:14:22.890
baby shower, Taylor feels like Demi looks down

01:14:22.890 --> 01:14:25.090
on the rest of the girls for being trash and

01:14:25.090 --> 01:14:27.470
doesn't actually share anything about her real

01:14:27.470 --> 01:14:29.149
life, which kind of comes back to the thing you

01:14:29.149 --> 01:14:31.350
were saying about everything is scripted. It's

01:14:31.350 --> 01:14:32.949
the image she wants to portray to the world.

01:14:33.010 --> 01:14:36.239
It's the cease and desist of it all. I think

01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:38.720
Taylor's 100 % right there. And that's tea. We

01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:41.300
don't hear anything about what Demi's got going

01:14:41.300 --> 01:14:43.340
on. No, because she doesn't have anything going

01:14:43.340 --> 01:14:48.180
on because her entire storyline is hating Taylor.

01:14:48.539 --> 01:14:54.180
Yeah. So that being said, Taylor decides it's

01:14:54.180 --> 01:14:56.279
the perfect time to share the Center Sunday rumor

01:14:56.279 --> 01:14:59.079
about Brett allegedly hooking up with someone

01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:01.899
because Jen deserves to have a backbone and fight

01:15:01.899 --> 01:15:04.930
for herself. And you know what I love about Taylor

01:15:04.930 --> 01:15:07.670
at the end of the day is that she will be messy.

01:15:07.930 --> 01:15:12.029
She will bring mess. And she, like us, loves

01:15:12.029 --> 01:15:13.930
mess. And she knows what she's here to deliver.

01:15:14.189 --> 01:15:17.109
And she's strategic about it. She's not like

01:15:17.109 --> 01:15:21.890
out to just hurt anyone. She's like, oh, I know

01:15:21.890 --> 01:15:26.229
how to get back at you. Yes. 100%. And that's

01:15:26.229 --> 01:15:28.840
where the episode leaves off a little. A little

01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:31.239
cliffhanger there. They love a cliffhanger on

01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:33.859
that show. They really do. They love to keep

01:15:33.859 --> 01:15:38.380
you coming back for more. Well, dear listener,

01:15:38.500 --> 01:15:40.439
that brings us to the end of another episode

01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:42.720
of Bestie Approved. This one was a weird one.

01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:46.760
Like, I don't hate, like, the... Kind of all

01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:49.579
over the map. Yeah, I don't hate the breadth

01:15:49.579 --> 01:15:52.319
and width of what we covered, but it was a lot

01:15:52.319 --> 01:15:54.779
today. Thank you for listening. Thank you for

01:15:54.779 --> 01:15:58.489
being here. From Indie to wherever you are in

01:15:58.489 --> 01:16:04.649
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